You Sound Like A Naysayer

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: “You Sound Like A Naysayer”

Date: April 29, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty (with Katie Green)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In “You Sound Like a Naysayer,” Armstrong & Getty take on the latest headlines with their trademark cynicism and wit. The central theme is skepticism—toward online outrage, political posturing, technological advances (especially AI), and the narratives spun by both media and leaders. The hosts dissect the “toxic relationship” Americans have with the Internet, King Charles’ address to Congress, and the high-profile Musk vs. Altman/OpenAI lawsuit, among other current news stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Internet: Our Most Toxic Relationship

Timestamps: 03:36 – 05:43

• Digital Overload & Rage-Bait:
  Joe describes prepping for the show and being bombarded by legitimate but infuriating headlines designed to elicit outrage. They joke about how constant online confrontations would be perceived as insanity in “real life.”

  “If you spent your entire day locked in combat, it would make you insane.”
  — Joe Getty [04:41]

• Personal Screen Time:
  Jack mentions not tracking his own screen time, though he monitors his kids'. Katie and Jack discuss the disconnect between online arguments and real-life priorities.

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2. Pregnancy Misery & Social Comparisons

Timestamps: 05:31 – 06:53

• Katie shares her frustrations with people insisting she’ll “miss being pregnant.” The team pokes fun at toxic positivity around things like pregnancy and running.

  “It’s like one of those people who run around talking about runner’s high.”
  — Joe Getty [06:34]

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3. King Charles’ Speech to Congress: Sincerity or Strategy?

Timestamps: 07:14 – 12:19

• Media Reactions:
  Coverage lauds King Charles’ “historic” unifying speech, but Jack plays the cynic, arguing that Britain’s current weakness (especially militarily) is the real motivator for the outreach.

  “Great Britain is the weakest they've ever been militarily... This is your old friend... And then he makes the ask. ‘Oh, that’s why you’re here.’”
  — Jack Armstrong [09:10]

  Joe agrees, comparing Britain’s once-powerful navy to a “Freedom Boat Club” roster.

  “I’m pretty sure my local Freedom Boat Club has as many boats as the British Navy at this point.”
  — Joe Getty [11:18]

• Support for Ukraine:
  Skepticism about Britain (and Europe’s) seriousness in supporting Ukraine:

  “Why do we, a continent of 500 million people, need to beg a country of 300 million... to fight a country of 160 million?”
  — Quoting Poland’s Donald Tusk, Jack Armstrong [12:38]

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4. “Contrarian Takes” on Outrage Headlines

Timestamps: 13:00 – 13:53

• Joe and Jack push back on controversies such as a Kimmel joke (which they find harmless) and the anticipation around the “Comey indictment” (which Joe expects to be dismissed).

  “The Kimmel joke is harmless... The Comey indictment is an embarrassment...”
  — Joe Getty [13:15]

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5. Headlines Rundown with Katie Green

Timestamps: 17:48 – 22:28

• Middle East Tensions: Reporting on Trump’s warnings to Iran and instability in oil shipping.

• AI Hype and Worry:
  Elon Musk testifies, “AI will kill us all” [18:38], prompting ridicule about how such dire warnings play in court.

• Fitness Pressure:
  “Three minutes of fitness TikTok is all it takes to make young men feel like they’re falling short.”
  — Katie Green [20:46]

• Dark Humor & Media Critique:
  Babylon Bee headline satirizes the media’s refusal to speculate on an obvious shooter’s motive.

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6. Drone Deliveries and Technological Naysaying

Timestamps: 25:58 – 27:03

• Discussion of new pizza drone deliveries, with Jack expressing skepticism:

  “I just don’t think that’s true. I think it would be a problem very quickly...”
  — Jack Armstrong [26:32]

  Joe jokes Jack “sounds like a naysayer,” the episode’s titular theme.

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7. Musk vs. Altman (OpenAI) Trial

Timestamps: 27:03 – 34:48

• Elon Musk’s Stand:
  Musk argues OpenAI’s pivot from nonprofit to for-profit is a “theft” of a public charity and a dangerous precedent.

  “It’s not okay to steal a charity.”
  — Elon Musk, as quoted by Joe Getty [28:09]

• Media Manipulation & “Scam Altman”:
  Jack and Joe suspect Elon is orchestrating a media campaign against Sam Altman, quoting social media posts and referencing the coordinated release of hit pieces in the press.

  “Everything is clickbait. Of course you run the article now.”
  — Joe Getty [31:34]

• Trial Stakes:
  Musk seeks to return OpenAI to nonprofit status, oust Altman and Brockman, and seeks $130B for the original nonprofit mission.

  “Has there ever been a trial where, opening day, one of the people says, ‘If we don’t get this under control, it’s going to kill off all of mankind?’”
  — Jack Armstrong [34:48]

• AI Chatbots:
  The hosts share their own preferences (Claude, Perplexity) and joke about not really noticing differences between bots.

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8. The Jury Duty Tangent

Timestamps: 36:00 – 38:44

• Jack admits to blowing off a recent jury summons and wonders aloud what the consequences will be—leading to over-the-top mock punishments from the team.

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9. Mailbag: Parental Rights, Marxist Ideology, & Authority

Timestamps: 42:17 – 47:56

• On State Interference and Parental Rights:
  Multiple listeners weigh in on laws and hospital practices that require private questioning of children away from their parents—a trend Jack connects to Marxist ideology (“The state must come between you and your child”).

  “The hospital and the teacher might not understand whose purposes they’re serving, but that’s intentional. That’s not accidental. The books are there. Read them. They told you what they wanted to do. They're doing it.”
  — Jack Armstrong [47:48]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “If you spent your entire day locked in combat, it would make you insane.”
  — Joe Getty [04:41]

• “The most toxic relationship we all have is with the internet.”
  — Jack Armstrong [04:47]

• “It’s like one of those people who run around talking about runner’s high… Shut up.”
  — Katie Green [06:37]

• “Great Britain is the weakest they've ever been militarily... This is your old friend... then he makes the ask.”
  — Jack Armstrong [09:10]

• “I'm pretty sure my local Freedom Boat Club has as many boats as the British Navy at this point.”
  — Joe Getty [11:18]

• “Why do we, a continent of 500 million people, need to beg a country of 300 million... to fight a country of 160 million?” — [Donald Tusk quote, cited by Jack Armstrong, 12:38]

• “The Kimmel joke is harmless... The Comey indictment is an embarrassment...”
  — Joe Getty [13:15]

• “AI will kill us all.”
  — Elon Musk, via Katie Green [18:38]

• “Three minutes of fitness TikTok is all it takes to make young men feel like they're falling short.”
  — Katie Green [20:46]

• “I just don’t think that’s true... I think it would be a problem very quickly...”
  — Jack Armstrong [26:32]

• “It’s not okay to steal a charity.”
  — Elon Musk (quoted by Joe Getty) [28:09]

• “Everything is clickbait. Of course you run the article now.”
  — Joe Getty [31:34]

• “Has there ever been a trial where one of the people says… ‘If we don’t get this right, every human being on earth dies?’”
  — Jack Armstrong [34:48]

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Episode Structure & Flow

1. Opening Banter & Internet Toxicity
2. Pregnancy & Social Pressure
3. King Charles' Visit & Geo-Politics
4. Contrarian News Takes
5. News Headlines Rundown
6. Technology Skepticism & Drones
7. Deep Dive: Musk vs. Altman Trial
8. Jury Duty Humor
9. Mailbag: From AI Ethics to Parental Rights
10. Preview & Tease for Upcoming Topics

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Final Takeaway

“You Sound Like a Naysayer” epitomizes Armstrong & Getty’s skeptical, fast-paced, irreverently honest approach to dissecting news. Balancing humor with substantive critiques, they shine in their breakdowns of mass outrage, virtue signaling, international politics, and the perils of unchecked technological innovation. The Musk-Altman trial and ethical stakes of AI get extra attention, as does the ongoing tension between personal freedom and government/medical authority.

For newcomers, this episode offers a rich recipe of sharp analysis, wit, and signature Armstrong & Getty realism.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Hello live. Hello live from studio

[Joe Getty]

Senor.

[Jack Armstrong]

A dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And hey y'.

[Joe Getty]

All.

[Jack Armstrong]

Today, Wednesday, Pump Day. We're under the tutelage of this title.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, King Chuck, bugger about and find out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Making War of 1812. Joe,

[Jack Armstrong]

bugger about and find out. That's funny.

[Joe Getty]

Or if you prefer, your most toxic relationship is with the Internet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's unquestionably true. I was getting ready for the show today and, and I just kept coming across various outrages, things that, you know, rage bait and, and they're all actually fairly legitimate discussions to have. They weren't out of nowhere. They were, you know, things that, or things that were said or ideas that are being expressed. But there were like 27 of them. And I started thinking about, can you imagine if you went through your day? You know, you get home, your, your significant other says, hey honey, how was your day? And you're like, oh my God. On the way to work, I got into a road rage thing with a guy and I thought he had a gun at one point. It was unbelievable. Then I got to work and you remember Jim and sales, I've mentioned, we had a screaming match right there in the lobby. The receptionist started crying. It was just, it was unbelievable. And then at lunch, I was at this fast food place and they gave me the wrong order and I lost my head and I was screaming at them.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, if you spent your entire

[Joe Getty]

day locked in combat, it would make you insane.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, just you saying that. People talk about toxic relationships and how you need to get out of them, but I think you're right. The most toxic relationship we all have is with the Internet. And I get this report on at the end of the day. I don't always look at it, but that keeps track of how much time my kids spent online because they have their computers and phones and all their screens go through my account. I don't do that for myself though. I should do that for myself. How many hours did I spend staring at my phone during the day?

[Joe Getty]

I wish I could separate out, like work stuff. Right. Because I get that report from Apple once a week and I just ignore it. Right. I mean, I'm using two screens right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a good point. How are you, Katie? How's pregnancy?

[Katie Green]

Oh, it's just a blast.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're getting close to the finish line.

[Katie Green]

I am.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank God.

[Katie Green]

It's so funny. I've had so many people say, oh, you're gonna miss it.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never heard anybody say that. People say.

[Katie Green]

I've had several women tell me that I am going to miss being pregnant. And I give them the same. To each their own, darling.

[Jack Armstrong]

When my wife was pregnant and she hated pregnancy, particularly one of them I had. I was sitting next to a woman on a plane during it, and I never told her this story for the. For obvious reasons. I sat next to this one on a plane who came up. I said, at the time, my wife is pregnant. She said, oh, I have four kids. I loved being pregnant. I never felt better in my life than during my pregnancies. For some reason. She said, I know it's not that way for every woman, but I just felt the best physically during my pregnancies, all four times. I thought, wow, that's great for you, but you cannot go around saying that to many people.

[Katie Green]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It's like one of those people who run around talking about runner's high.

[Katie Green]

Shut up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never taken a step running that. I enjoyed. Shut up.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, that sounds like my hell.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

She said my hair would be better, my skin was better, I felt better. Here's a cookie.

[Joe Getty]

Check.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's a cookie. That's funny. Anywho, what we're talking about. Oh, yeah, the Internet. Elon said some interesting things at the big trial yesterday between him and Sam Altman and the OpenAI stuff about how AI could kill us all. So maybe we'll get into that a little bit later. That's fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. And if it doesn't, Michael, here's a hint. Get your bubble noise ready. Okay. Big week for earnings reports from the big tech companies. And there is angst in the air and zillions of dollars flying around.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Yeah. That's an interesting thing to talk about, but I have something. I have a naysayer opinion on one of the big stories of the day, but we should do that after we start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday, April 29th. We're running out of April here, people. The year 2026, where Armstrong and getting we approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

I wonder if you're saying nay about the same things I want to say nay to. Well, we'll find out together. Let's begin the show officially now, according to FCC rules and regs. Show start Mark indeed.

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[Joe Getty]

Dare I say that if it wasn't

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[Jack Armstrong]

The comedy stylings of King Charles, who killed it in front of Congress yesterday, and lots of reports about how good his speech was and how everybody was cheering him and it was the first time Republicans and Democrats had stood up together in a very, very long time, etc. Etc. That's all nice, but here's my, here's my playing the Joe Getty royal role of taking the fun out of something people are enjoying.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, don't do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was, it was presented mostly on a lot of the punditry that I saw, you know, left leaning punditry of how he's, he's trying to restore the relationship that has been damaged by Trump and all this different sort of stuff and everything like that. The, this is what's I think actually happened. Great Britain is the weakest they've ever been militarily re the rest of the world probably in a thousand years. And they need us more than they've ever needed us. So he comes over and talks about, aren't we the best of friends? We've always been the best of friends. We've always had each other's back. It's fantastic because they're the weakest in their history. It's not the other way around as it's kind of being presented as, you know, offering an olive branch. Even though this and that and Trumpet is bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah that we need as kind of peers we need to come back to get. No, this is your old friend who you haven't heard from in a long time and you think, well, that's kind of interesting. Haven't heard from a long time. And then he makes the ask. Yeah, I lost my job and I was just wondering if you had a couple of grand you could spare me just to get me through the end of the month. Oh, that's why you're here.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Wow, that is a cynical, cynical, accurate take though.

[Jack Armstrong]

The London, the Telegraph of London. I never did read any of the particulars. Maybe I can dig those back up. Had a piece a couple of weeks ago about how weak the military is for the Brits. All the countries that they couldn't defeat in a war, they could defeat every country on earth in a war for several centuries.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now they couldn't hardly beat anybody. They almost have no military. That's why they want to continue the special relationship. I think we should. I'm not for. For disowning them or anything like that, but I don't know, it just rings a little hollow about. Hey, we've always helped each other through the years when you can't really, and you aren't help us at all.

[Joe Getty]

Are you familiar with Freedom Boat Club?

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

It's. It's a club. Yeah. First rule, never talk about Freedom Boat Club. I'm violating it for you good folks. No, it's. It's a. It's a national or international thing where you don't want to own a boat, but you want to be able to rent one readily. So you get trained, you join. It's like a golf club almost. That's a great idea. Borrow the boat for the day. It is a good idea. Someday, if I ever retire, I might join it. Anyway. I was reading Britain's naval roster, their numbers the other day, and I don't have them in front of me, but they've gone just in the past 25 years, something like that. From 100 ships, which is. Is paltry, especially for what was formerly the greatest navy on earth, down to, I think it's 25. I'm pretty sure my local Freedom Boat Club has as many boats as the British Navy at this point. They might not have as much firepower, but that's how incredible it is. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The British Navy, specifically in relation to what they have been throughout history, is very, very weak.

[Joe Getty]

And everything Charles said about our incredible history together and friendship and how important it's been through history is true. But our friend is now again, he's couch surfing and begging for loans from his high school buddies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember when I loaned you all that money in high school where. I am back now, and I wonder if you could help me out. The one other cynical note I had about it is the talk about how he stood up there and how important it is to support Ukraine and all that sort of stuff, which I agree with. And everybody cheering. And that was also seen as kind of a shot at this administration. Hey, British, the Brits, you're closer. You in Europe, Why don't you do it?

[Joe Getty]

Where?

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you doing coming over here lecturing about how important Ukraine is while you all sit on the sidelines?

[Joe Getty]

I say. I say point of order, as Was discussed only moments ago. We can't do anything right. We have no means by which to do what you're suggesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. One more time, I'll go with that quote from the leader of Poland, which I think is so good, when he said, why do we, a continent of 500 million people, need to beg a country of 300 million people to fight a country of 160 million people? That's a. That's a really good question. Still. I haven't heard anybody answer that question.

[Joe Getty]

Love the Tusker. Donald Tusk. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really good.

[Joe Getty]

All right. My. You want to hear my two contrarian takes? You know, one of the titles of the show is almost I don't want my zone flooded. So much outrage all the time. Number one, the Kimmel joke is harmless. It was an old guy married to a pretty young woman. And it doesn't matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

We didn't even talk about it yesterday for the reasons Joe just said.

[Joe Getty]

Secondly, the Comey indictment is an embarrassment that's gonna be dismissed with prejudice the moment it gets within a thousand yards of even the most right wingy judge. It's ridiculous ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stop it. Ever have. Ever hear anybody say, I got 86 from a bar? Did you think they killed him? Is that what you thought happened? Or they asked him to leave? Is that.

[Joe Getty]

What are we 86 to menu on an item on the menu. It means we discontinued it. We didn't want it anymore. There are important things to worry about. Let's not get distracted with s. Thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got Katie's headlines on the way and lots of stuff today. I hope you can stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

O-O-O.com Hexith Secure Secretary of War is gonna be before Congress answering questions for the first time since the war began today and I wish I had a better handle on this whole time runs out here at the End of the month, which is just a couple of days away for the President prosecuting the war without Congress's approval. I don't quite understand. Is that like a serious, serious red line or are we just gonna blow by that red line without any notice or what?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. All the discussion up to now has been very vague about what levers can be pulled on either side and which can't. We ought to seek out somebody who really knows what they're talking about on that topic. It's a good one. Yeah. And the deadline's approaching. Let's figure out who's reporting what. Katie Green has the lead story. Katie.

[Katie Green]

All right. He's starting with the Alphabet networks. NBC, Trump warns Iran, quote, better get smart soon as he weighs military options over the Strait of Hormuz. ABC, Iran's currency has hit a record low as shaky cease fire with the United States and Israel still holds. And CNN shipping through the Straits of Hormuz slows to a trickle.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And again, as we talked about yesterday, is Iran like days away from collapsing their entire economy and their leadership or a month away or somewhere in between? Nobody knows.

[Joe Getty]

This is kind of esoteric in the weedsy, but with the UAE leaving opec, it's become so clear that the entire structure of the world energy market is changing in a hurry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And I wonder what it's going to look like in five years. Who knows?

[Katie Green]

From the New York Times, Elon Musk says I will kill us all in his oral testimony during the open air trial.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you know, that's a pretty good.

[Joe Getty]

On the other hand, I've never been more productive.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good thing to say to a jury. You know, in the kind of trial he's in.

[Joe Getty]

It's already gotten kind of spicy too, where there have been objections and the judges had. That's, that's Mr. Musk's opinion. That has no legal weight whatsoever. Members of the jury, go ahead, counselor.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to hear more about that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

USA Today, US Special Forces OP pleads not guilty to insider trading charges in Maduro raid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we went through that whole thing yesterday where while what he did is not cool, Congress people do it all the freaking time and nobody bats an eye.

[Katie Green]

Jack's favorite saying in this next headline, CBS Pain at the Pump. Gas prices hit 423 a gallon. A new high for the year. They love to say pain at the pump.

[Jack Armstrong]

They do. You'd think somebody could have come up with a new phrase since 1974 on

[Joe Getty]

Jay when I was a child.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Green]

This one from the Washington Post image of Trump to be featured inside new passports to mark America's 250th birthday.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw that my, my youngest is getting his first passport here. Should be showing up here in about a month or so. So I hope he gets one of those cool commemorative draw passports.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Lord,

[Katie Green]

this is not a good time on vacation. New York Post tourist dies at luxury resort after cobra from snake show climbs up his pants and bites him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow. Boy, if I go to a snake show, one thing I do not want to have happen is like that, a cobra climbing up my pant leg, inviting me.

[Joe Getty]

Top of that list.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Very, very, really close to the top of the list.

[Katie Green]

This one from study finds three minutes of fitness TikTok is all it takes to make young men feel like they're falling short.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. It's a whole comparing yourself to influencers thing. Yeah.

[Katie Green]

One of the notes in this article talks about like, you watch three minutes of this and instantly they think that their entire workout routine is wrong and they're not doing enough and they'll never look like these people.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I'm going to become a look smacker.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, good.

[Jack Armstrong]

More on that later. Great.

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[Katie Green]

And finally, this one from the Babylon beat. Media is still stumped as to motive of gunman with manifesto that was titled why I'm going to kill Donald J. Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, yeah, no kidding.

[Joe Getty]

Gonna go through Barack Obama midday through Sunday. When the manifesto was out, everybody had read it, blah, blah, blah. Was saying, still unclear what his purpose was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on. Yeah, I'm gonna go through that a little bit later. Somebody making the argument that the mundaneness of this guy is really what should frighten us all is that he was a. Doesn't. He clearly doesn't seem to be crazy because he made a lot of like, important rational decisions to get where he was. He was just kind of mundane, bubbled, bought the stories that are floating around everywhere sort of guy. And how many people are like that?

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah. I never want to glorify these people or give them too much attention, but the more I read and think about this guy in his life, the more I think he really is a symptom of more than one thing going on. It's worth taking a look at.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was he crazy when they admitted him to the most prestigious university in the world? I wonder, did he come off crazy

[Joe Getty]

back then or just completely nothing he has said or written that comes off the least bit mentally ill, misguided, aimless, bubbled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So we got more on that and a whole bunch of other things including the trial and what Elon said. And I want to hear the stuff about him getting slapped down for quoting Elon at various times. That's a. That's an interesting angle. So lots today. If you miss a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should subscribe. Then you'll just get fed all the segments all the time. Stay here please.

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The pizza chain Little Caesars is partnered with the company Flytrex to offer drone delivery and in a related story, Iran just surrender.

[Jack Armstrong]

I never hear anybody answer the obvious question to me. With all this drone delivery stuff and the various helicopter taxis and everything like that. I guess everybody figures that'll work itself out or something. We can't just have all this stuff randomly flying around in the sky, right?

[Joe Getty]

Right. I guess they figure there's a lot of sky, it'll be a long time before it's a problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just don't think that's true.

[Joe Getty]

You got three dimensions.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it would be a problem very quickly if you had even in your town just two pizza places delivering pizzas. I think it would become a problem right away.

[Joe Getty]

You sound like a Luddite, like a naysayer. You ought to be a European. They hold back innovation there too. How's that going for them? I say let the drones fly. Let's see how it goes. If I see a pizza flying over my house, I'm shooting it down. Yeah, me too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now might be.

[Joe Getty]

Especially if I can read the ingredients from below. If it's something I like.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, what is that? A Hawaiian pow Pow. Yes. So I mentioned yesterday that Elon Musk had tweeted out scam. Altman didn't tell the Open Eye board that he owned the Open. So he's calling Sam Altman Scam Altman. Joe said that would come up with the trial. He was right. Also Elon on the stand yesterday said AI could make us more prosperous but could also kill us. We want to be in a Gene Roddenberry movie. Like Star Trek. Not so much a James Cameron movie. Like Terminator, which is a pretty good quote.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I agree. As well said.

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, here's what happened on day one of the Musk vs Altman trial going on in Oakland federal court. It opened with Musk taking the stand and accusing Altman of betraying the altruistic principles OPEN AI was founded on. Originally, Musk testified that he believed he was funding a benefit for all humanity and warned that losing it would give license to looting every charity in America. Which is an interesting thing. If you can do this with OpenAI, then everybody can loot every charity for their own profit.

[Joe Getty]

May I read to you his actual words? Sure. I think they're going to try to make this lawsuit very complicated, but it's actually very simple. He said as soon as he took the stand, staring directly at the jurors, it's not okay to steal a charity. And he said if he were to lose the case, the country could risk losing every charity in America. And one of the attorneys on the other side broke in and objected to it. And the judge who's presiding in Oakland told the jurors, Mr. Musk's perspective is his opinion has no legal value whatsoever. Let's continue.

[Jack Armstrong]

So in opening arguments, OpenAI's lead attorney, William Sabat, told jurors, we're here because Mr. Musk didn't get his way at OpenAI. He quit saying they would fail for sure, but my clients had the nerve to go on and succeed without him. Altman's lawyer also alleged that Musk had tried to take control of OpenAI and merge it with Tesla and actually wanted to form a for profit himself and own more than 50% of it. Which of course is possibly true. I don't have any idea. Musk pushed back hard on the suggestion that he was a peripheral figure, saying, I came up with the idea, I came up with the name, I recruited the key people, I taught them everything I know. I provided all the funding, which is a pretty good claim to having been fairly important to the operation. He framed his original motivation in existential terms. Telling AI could make everyone as prosperous, but kill us all. That's the quote I said a little bit ago. Some other notable moments from the day the judge scolded Musk. This is what Joe predicted over his recent social media posts about the trial and threatened a gag order, warning his posts would only make things worse. Musk agreed to limit them the posts and comments during the trial, as did Altman and Brockman. That's the other guy whose name gets left out a lot. It's Altman and Brockman that are running OpenAI currently.

[Joe Getty]

To wit, this post came out yesterday and is still up. And it's, it's, it's a thinly disguised Elon. It's a Twitter account, X account called X Freeze with a blue check mark. And I will read to you just a bit of it. Scam Altman has an incredible track record for being a con artist. I don't think anyone has a former ally turned enemy list this big with directly with people he worked with. A massive new 18 month investigation dropped, revealing the full list of people who worked directly with Sam Altman and now openly say they don't trust him. They call him a liar, manipulator, scam artist and worse. These are his co founders, board members, top executives and biggest partners, not random haters. And it goes through Elon Musk and everything Elon said. Elu Sutskiver, the OpenAI co founder, former chief scientist, Dario Amodi or Amade Amodi, another Amity. Helen Toner, former OpenAI board member, another open A board member, just. It goes on and on and on, the terrible things they've said about Sam Altman.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. But as I mentioned yesterday, I'm a little suspicious of the timing of the Wall Street Journal. Sources close to us say that Sam Altman once, you know, kicked a puppy story coming out the day of the trial and then also the Ronan Farrow piece dropping the same day. It's possible they just thought, you know, we're going to time our investigative pieces with the trial while it's in the news. It's also possible that Elon Musk working behind the scenes, you know, got some investigative journalism going, 100%.

[Joe Getty]

That's what happens.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oppos stuff going.

[Joe Getty]

And if you accept my premise, and you should, that everything is clickbait. Of course you run the article now as the trial's beginning and the attention of the world's focused on it. Yeah, clearly that's exactly what's happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Elon was behind it. Or you don't think Elon had anything to do with it?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm sure he is, yeah. Yeah, directly and indirectly, sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, he has like a zillion employees. I'm sure he could have tasked one of them with, hey, you know that list of all the times Sam Altman's been called a congenital liar? Let's put that together and put that out. Yes, sir, Mr. Musk, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he's also involved one way or another in so many of the biggest companies on Planet Earth, Earth around the world. To think that he couldn't somehow influence, you know, a Wall Street Journal piece to come out. That's basically a hit piece on Sam Altman. Of course he could. Which is one of the. I, I don't think Elon's a bad guy, so I'm in that camp, so I'm not worried about it. But the fact that somebody could kind of have, could anybody on Earth could have the power that Elon Musk currently has where he can look at a war and say, yeah, I think those people need Internet coverage. Let's drop a couple of. I mean, it's just, it's amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Or flip it off. Or flip it off as well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Back to this rundown of day one, quickly. So they all agreed that they're stops sniping at each other in the press. Although it looks like Elon got his shots in on day one. Altman was in court for the opening arguments, but left before Elon took the stand. Brockman stayed in the courtroom. The stakes Musk is seeking reversion of OpenAI to a non profit removal of Altman and Brockman from the board and $130 billion in damages directed to OpenAI's nonprofit foundation. I think that would be good for the world, but I could see how you'd make the argument of Elon's just trying to take out one of the biggest competitors to grok. That's all he's doing.

[Joe Getty]

I think all of us would need to spend the next three years of our lives studying all the applicable law to understand, you know, even what's being asked and whether it's valid or not. I have no idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

OpenAI is ChatGPT, which is practically like the shorthand people use for when they're talking about AI. Kind of like Kleenex is for tissue. Practically

[Joe Getty]

getting there.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, yeah, there's a lot at stake. I, I. Do you notice a difference between any of the chat bots? I don't know that I do, actually. I kind of pretend I do sometimes, but I think if you change the names around, I wouldn't be able to tell.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my gosh. One being better than better. Better results from one than the other on a number of occasions. But I've also heard and read a lot of people talking about the differences and honestly, I can't remember the difference between my own perceptions and whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which one do you like the most?

[Joe Getty]

I'm a big Claude fan.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I use Claude the most, although I just started using Perplexity. Who's behind Perplexity. I don't even know who runs that one. One of our friends was big on perplexity.

[Joe Getty]

I started McDonald's.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like it. McDonald's.

[Joe Getty]

McDonald's product. Yeah. Fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, having someone sit on the stand, though. Has there ever been a trial? Probably not. It'd be impossible. Has there ever been a trial about a product where, opening day, one of the people says, yeah, and if we don't get this under control, it's going to kill off all of mankind? I don't think there's a juror.

[Joe Getty]

I'd find it easy to sit up and pay attention, at least for a while. Now that's a hook.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. My mom, my. The only time my mom was ever on a jury, it was for some. It was like the water board was being sued by some guy because a pipe broke. You could end up at a trial like that, which would be very hard to pay attention to, or you could end up on a trial where the guy says, if we don't get this right, every human being on earth dies. I'd rather have that one.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Compelling. So you know this, right? You need to have a trust and or a will so your wishes are known for your. Your stuff, your money, your kids, when you go. But you've been putting it off, maybe partly because you don't like to think about croaking. Fair enough. I get it. But it is such a great feeling when you have this done and you know, you know, a terrible, terrible, you know, strife won't tear your family apart. After you go, go to trust and will they offer affordable attorney designed estate plans online that you can create in as little as 30 minutes?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, get the basics out of the way. How much better would you feel if you just got the basics out of the way again in as little as 30 minutes? Creating that will that lets you document your wishes for guardians, your asset distribution, health care planning, how things are going to deal with end of life stuff and all that.

[Katie Green]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You want to jump on that today?

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money to be in the jury on this OpenAI trial. It'd be like, you know, a course in artificial intelligence. Every day probably to a certain extent. And then also, you know, charities and all kinds of stuff. But I wanted to mention this. I got one of those jury summons cards and then I got reminded last Thursday that I was supposed to be there at 8:30 the next day and I meant to let everybody know and then I was going to go in and. But I completely forgot and blew it off. So now what happens to me? Did the police show up at my home some point?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Guns drawn. Yeah. You'll be cuffed, thrown onto the lawn, probably a couple of licks from the nightstick.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie. Michael, that's what I.

[Joe Getty]

That's what I requested.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody who's ever gotten a jury summons and not shown up. What happens now? What happens?

[Joe Getty]

Firing squad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Firing squad. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Immediately. No cigarette, no blind. Put food on your car. You want your eyes open, you baby. Yeah. And the boot on your car, that's fine

[Jack Armstrong]

print.

[Joe Getty]

I've never not shown up, so I have no idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, well, okay, great. Good for you.

[Joe Getty]

Well, because I'm a good American. But I think you will get a summons and told, hey, you got to sign up and show up again or we'll find you because you're not the first nor the last. But don't. Don't quote me. Google it. Bang it.

[Jack Armstrong]

You've never not shown up. What a flex. What?

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I can tell by looking at people if they're guilty or not. It takes people taking way too much time on this.

[Joe Getty]

Joe thinks he's really special. Plus, bring your own rope. You know, it's good to have one handy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's move through these. Let's get 100 knocked off today. Just bring him in. He's guilty. Bring him in. She looks okay. Bring him in. Okay, we've got. If you have any knowledge that, text me. 415295 KFTC. We've got mailbag on the way.

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[Jack Armstrong]

One of the more interesting topics out there? Chinese cars and how good they are or aren't and us banning them from the United States. Wall Street Journal's got a huge piece about that today we'll have to talk about later. Really interesting.

[Joe Getty]

You're going to see one on the street soon. Indeed. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day sent along by another J in San Jose. This one's from Thomas Jefferson. He said this in 1816 if a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and will never be. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

How good is that?

[Joe Getty]

And obvious sorry TJ sorry mailbag. Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongygetti.com Don in San Jose wants to know why aren't there thousands of no Kings protesters in Washington this week as the US hosts an actual thing of a major First World free democratic country. No Kings. JT in Livermore has a handful of thought, including in defense of Ilhan Omar. We all know about World War the novel and movie in which Brad Pitt saved the planet from a zombie apocalypse. So I'm sure in her mind she reasoned if there was a World War Z, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to have had a World War 11.

[Jack Armstrong]

The last time the Alien Enemies act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants doing World War 11.

[Joe Getty]

Who can forget? Then moving along, JT says brilliant people can be idiots too, like Larry Page, who says that trying to contain AI is speciesist. Since they I wants to wipe out human beings, we should let it. J.T. wants to know. I'm curious to know more about his thinking. Does he just hate humans or would he be fine with AI intentionally wiping out innocent creatures?

[Jack Armstrong]

Quote unquote?

[Joe Getty]

What if they wanted to wipe out all dogs, cats, bunnies?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Speciesist.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's that?

[Joe Getty]

Or is it only human exchange extinction that you're indifferent toward? Larry how about otters, whales and dolphins? Mountain gorillas? Go ahead Larry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Excellent rhetorical strategy there. I have a feeling, Larry Page, that if AI determined the world should not have puppies, they're a net loss for humanity and it started killing puppies. You wouldn't agree that that was okay?

[Joe Getty]

Dolphins murder and rape. So let's unleash drone submarines to take out all the dolphins in the world, Larry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great.

[Joe Getty]

You're an idiot. Let's see. And then he pivots to. As upset as Jack was and is about the whole doctors interrogating your children in isolation thing. I don't think he went far enough. If I heard correctly, Jack said they'd refuse treatment if they weren't allowed to do this child interrogation. Absent the parent or daughter they can. That's right. That sounds an awful lot like extortion by the medical community. They're literally threatening to withhold urgent medical care unless you agree to their non emergency demands. To make matters worse, their motivation isn't superior health care. Their motivation is getting their 30 pieces of silver. Let's see. Moving along. Dr. Jeff writes to avoid the hospital. The hassle at the hospital when the doctor or nurse tries to separate the two of you. Just have your son say, I want my dad with me. I don't comfortable. Feel comfortable being alone with doctors or nurses or strangers.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I've, I've heard a couple of people say that. I'm sure that works. I hate putting my kids in that position though, where they have to while they're sick. You got to remember, while they're sick and not feeling good, they need to talk to a. An adult stranger who has an air of, you know.

[Joe Getty]

Authority.

[Jack Armstrong]

Authority, yeah. And say and, and make a demand of them. That's a heck of a thing to ask for kids so that I get to be with my kid during his doctor's appointment.

[Joe Getty]

And you're healing you as the child. Your healing is in their hands. That's a terrible, terrible position. Jeff signed off from Dolphins Blowhole. Hawaii.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

I've been to Hawaii a number of times. I've never been to Dolphins Blowhole.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. So you're telling the kid he needs to confront the person that's about to give them care while they're sick. That's a, that's a nice situation.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Spoke. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Roger suggests we get the Pacific Legal foundation involved. It's a great parental rights case. And then this. I wanted to get to Kathy in Spain. Guys, your final thought about Marxist ideology working to eliminate the family. It's absolutely true. It's right there in the Communist Manifesto. Reminded me about how something similar happened here in Spain. I read the book Fountains of Silence, a historical fiction, blah blah. It covers life in Madrid during and after the dictatorship of Franco, during and after World War II or World War 11, if you prefer. And I dove down the rabbit hole of Spanish history in the Spanish Civil War. The right wing nationalists led by Franco who became the dictator, defeated the Republic. Who are the leftists? Many Republicans were executed following the Civil War and their children were given to nationalist families to raise. In the years under Franco, when women of the Republican Party gave birth at Catholic hospitals and facilities, the priests and nuns would take their babies and tell the families that the child had died. Those babies were then given to nationalist Catholic families to be raised with the correct ideology. The first court case to start correcting what Happened was in 2018, and it's an extremely uncomfortable part of recent Spanish history. And I actually quoted from Marx himself and actually a Marxist college professor. I had the idea of the state needs to come between you and your child, whether it's at school. You don't need to tell mom and dad about your gender transition or the hospital. No, you sit down. I'm talking to the child alone. The hospital and the teacher might not understand whose purposes they're serving. But that's intentional. That's not accidental. The books are there. Read them. They told you what they wanted to do. They're doing it. Wake up right?

[Jack Armstrong]

And and then the fact that California law came up with a way to incentivize hospitals get money by separating parents from their children. If they can check the box that they talk to the kid alone, they actually get paid for it. I have consulted lawyers. I am going to continue on this jihad. It is ridiculous. We've got more on the way. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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