You Stupid F-ing Robot

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "You Stupid F-ing Robot"

Date: January 16, 2026
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode weaves through the heated national debate over immigration enforcement, reactions to recent events in Minneapolis, the implications of AI in society and mental health, and some lighter sidebars on modern culture and technology. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty deliver their signature mix of sarcasm, logical deconstruction, and personal anecdotes while responding to current events and exploring the real-life psychological impact of technology.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Recent ICE-Involved Shooting & Minneapolis Protests

• The hosts open with breaking news about protests following the second ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis, blending news summary with critical commentary on public and political reactions.
• Armstrong: "An ICE agent shot and wounded Venezuelan national Julio Cesar Sosa...During the struggle, two men came out...and attacked the agent with a shovel and a broom handle. All three men are now in custody." (00:28)
• They criticize how the events are framed in media and political statements and question local leadership's priorities regarding illegal immigrants with criminal records.
• Getty: "Are you okay with not arresting people here who are illegally with criminal records? You just want them to live in your community?" (01:17)
• Jack Armstrong: "The dedicated Marxists want to overload the system. They want to break it. It's the soft-headed suburban white people who buy the Marxist lies who are the problem. The useful idiots." (01:32)

Mayor Jacob Fry’s Remarks

• The pair play and dissect Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry's emotional appeals, sarcastically pointing out the irony in his language about "people who don't share your values or language" disrupting communities.
  • Notable Quote (Getty): "It was almost like I wrote it. Imagine your town being invaded by people who don't share your values...” (03:59)
  • Armstrong: “Yeah, they have, like, a third of the people in the classroom in some cities don't speak English, and the teachers don't know how to do with it...you just spelled out why people hate illegal immigration so much.” (04:10)

Law Enforcement vs. ICE

• The hosts mock Fry’s calls for local police to ‘stand by their neighbors’ against ICE, referencing the police chief’s visible disbelief.
  • Armstrong: "The police chief is behind him and when he says that, the chief's eyebrows go up...display of, 'Wait, what the f. did you just say?'" (05:46)

Larger Media Narrative

• Armstrong & Getty argue the media has "lost the thread"—focusing on emotional reactions rather than the logic of enforcing immigration law.
  • Getty: “We have something called immigration...We have people who are illegally committed crimes. All that stuff's got to happen. Unless you're going to change the laws.” (06:32)

2. Weapon Theft, Under-Reported Crimes & Public Discourse

• The episode covers an incident where protesters overwhelmed an ICE vehicle, stole weapons and documents, and raises the idea of under-reporting in media.

  • Armstrong: "That's an actual insurrection, by the way." (10:34)
  • Getty: “That is quite the story. I feel like that's being underreported maybe because...you're cheering for [the protesters].” (11:19)

• The hosts lament logic breakdowns in public debate about immigration:

  • Armstrong: "Are you against violent criminal, illegal immigrants being arrested? But again, that's simple logic." (10:40)
  • Getty: “Are we all on board here that illegals with criminal records, especially in criminal gangs, should go ahead and be apprehended and kicked out of the country? Are we all on board with that?” (12:47)

3. Media, Journalism, and Societal Shifts

• Armstrong launches into a critique of modern journalism, arguing that younger, less experienced reporters from elite schools distort the national conversation.
  • Key Rant (Armstrong): "Now you come out of these elite far left journalism schools as a 23 year old rich white kid and you start telling the world how the world ought to be..." (08:03)
• Both hosts lament a "logic vs. emotion" culture clash.
  • Armstrong: "...all they know is this makes me feel bad...Your logic is wasted." (07:10)

4. Side Segments: Obamacare, Larry Ellison's Yacht, and Recycling

• Quick takes on reduced impact from Obamacare benefit cuts (Armstrong: "The drop was less than a fifth of what was predicted." (14:37))
• The comedic story about Larry Ellison’s super yacht nearly being named “I’m a Nazi” spelled backwards, and a light jape about recycling programs being “bunk”.
  • Armstrong: “Apparently he didn’t want a boat named backward ‘I’m a Nazi.’” (16:09)

5. AI, Psychosis, and Human Interaction with Technology

• A substantial segment explores how AI is shaping behaviors, emotions, and even mental health (“AI psychosis”).
• Getty: "If you're of normal brain, you're okay, but if you lean towards psychosis, AI is making it much worse. It's pretty interesting." (17:06)
• Matthew McConaughey’s legal efforts to protect his image from AI usage are discussed, with playful banter about copyright law.
  • Jack Armstrong: "All right, all right, all right." (17:27)

Definition and Cultural Impact of "Psychosis"

• The conversation turns philosophical as they discuss the medical definition of psychosis versus how people casually use the term.
  • Getty: "Psychosis involves a loss of contact with shared reality. That's the definition. So what's shared reality?" (19:08)
  • Armstrong: "Neurosis...is when you misinterpret reality, psychosis is when you can't even perceive it." (19:28)

AI "Relationships" and Humanization

• Both hosts express discomfort (and amusement) at their and their children's tendency to anthropomorphize virtual assistants.
  • Getty: "My kids will say something really inappropriate to say to a woman...I'm like, hey, don't talk to her that way." (21:53)
  • Armstrong: "What if I were to say to my robot helper, I'd like to slit your throat and watch your hydraulic fluid run out? ...If my kids said that, that I'd be a little concerned." (23:16)
• The group agrees that, though the AI has no feelings, repeated rude behavior to ‘her’ voice feels wrong—blurring the lines between social norms and tech use.

ChatGPT Reflections and Privacy Concerns

• Katie and hosts share their experiences with ChatGPT’s year-in-review poetry, poking fun at its attempts to summarize their lives based on search queries.

  • Katie’s Poem Excerpt: “You faced each twist with grace and keen flair. From studio lights to IVF care.” (32:26)
  • Getty: "Thanks for trying to build my personality around my few questions I asked you last year. That is hilarious." (34:22)

• They reflect on how future AI histories could “know” years of a user’s thoughts—raising concerns for teens and adults alike if past questions ever resurface.

  • Armstrong: "...you don't want that in your, you know, Chat GPT history." (35:39)
  • Katie: "Last week we found out that they gossip about us to each other, all the different AIs." (36:15)

6. Closing: Listeners Reflect on AI ‘Companionship’

• Getty invites listeners to share if anyone has genuinely found comfort or companionship in AI chatbot interactions. Katie shares a positive example but likens it more to getting good information quickly than true emotional support.
  • Katie: "It helped me a lot when I was doing the IVF stuff, getting pregnant. A lot of answers...I did feel a sense of calm after, you know, air quotes, talking to it." (30:20)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “The soft headed suburban white people who buy the Marxist lies…” (Jack Armstrong, 01:32)
• “Imagine your town being invaded by people who don't share your values or your...Culture or your language.” (Getty & Armstrong mocking Mayor Fry, 04:08)
• “That was too much...you just spelled out why people hate illegal immigration so much.” (Armstrong, 04:31)
• “We have laws around immigration. We have people who are illegally. We have people who are illegally committed crimes. All that stuff's got to happen. Unless you're going to change the laws.” (Getty, 06:32)
• “Now you come out of these elite far left journalism schools...and you start telling the world how the world ought to be...” (Armstrong, 08:03)
• “That's an actual insurrection, by the way.” (Jack Armstrong, 10:34)
• “AI psychosis is not yet a formal psychiatric diagnosis...but it may be soon.” (Getty, 20:47)
• "My kids will say something really inappropriate to say to a woman. I'm like, hey, don't talk to her that way." (Getty, 21:53)
• “Thanks for trying to build my personality around my few questions I asked you last year. That is hilarious.” (Getty, 34:22)
• “Last week we found out that they gossip about us to each other, all the different AIs.” (Katie, 36:15)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:28 — Opening: ICE shooting and media reactions
• 01:31 — Blunt commentary on local politics and illegal immigration
• 03:21 — Mayor Fry's remarks deconstructed (satire ensues)
• 05:39 — Police chief's reaction to Fry; local government turmoil
• 06:32 — Have we lost the thread? Media and law enforcement
• 08:03–09:25 — Rant on media, journalism, and logic vs. emotion
• 10:34 — Under-reported: protesters steal weapons/gang involvement
• 12:47 — "Cooler heads" vs. crisis-mongers in policy debate
• 17:06 — “AI psychosis”: AI’s impact on people with unstable reality
• 21:53 — Personal anecdotes: children, AI, and social behavior
• 30:20 — Has AI ever given you a sense of comfort?
• 32:26–34:22 — The absurdity of AI-generated summaries and poems
• 35:39 — Permanent record & privacy concerns with AI data
• 36:15 — “AIs gossip about us”; closing thoughts

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Tone and Style

The episode blends sharp logic, sarcasm, mockery, and honesty. Armstrong & Getty mix skepticism with humor, often adopting a satirical or incredulous tone, especially when dissecting political or tech trends.

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Summary prepared for those who haven’t listened: This episode dives into the polarized debate on immigration in Minneapolis, the limitations and hazards of emotional discourse vs. logic, and how AI is subtly shifting social and mental boundaries. The hosts mock political speeches, highlight media blind spots, question new norms emerging from technology, and sprinkle in moments of personal insight and laughter. Their witty banter, critiques, and willingness to ask uncomfortable questions make it both illuminating and entertaining for listeners seeking context on current issues and the evolving interplay between humans and technology.

Transcript

[Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

[Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

[Getty]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Armstrong]

New protests in the Twin Cities after the second ICE involved shooting in Minneapolis in a week. And now President Trump is threatening to send in military troops overnight. An ICE agent shot and wounded Venezuelan national Julio Cesar Sosa. Celis. Homeland Security officials say Celis fled to a nearby home during a targeted traffic stop. And during the struggle, two men came out of the home and attacked the agent with a shovel and a broom handle. All three men are now in custody.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

And all three men are illegals with criminal records. Is the reporting from DHS to present this as everybody's doing yet another shooting there. I mean, there's such apples and oranges situations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Getty]

That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Again, I would like to get so incredibly dishonest.

[Getty]

I want everybody on the record in Minneapolis, are you okay with not arresting people here who are illegally with criminal records? You don't want them arrested, you just want them to live in your community.

[Mayor Jacob Fry]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody wants that. They just pretend. And again, the dedicated Marxists want to overload the system. They want to break it. It's the soft headed suburban white people who buy the Marxist lies who are the problem. The useful idiots. You know the other part of the narrative that just occurred to me that the left always, they act as if, well, everybody's got a criminal record. I mean, it's nothing, there's nothing notable about it. How many of you folks have criminal records? Some of you do. You've made mistakes, you had a wild period in your life, whatever. Not, not nobody, but a hell of a lot of us have lived in this country for many decades. Like 90% of us, and zero criminal record. It's notable if somebody has an actual criminal record.

[Getty]

Well, and the federal law is they shouldn't be here. Just period. And then with a criminal record, definitely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not their priority for deportation. Yeah, right.

[Getty]

And so you want the laws to be different. Okay, so don't enforce the federal law, which I always say. What other federal laws should we not enforce? Do I get to choose some? There's a bunch of gun laws I'd like to not enforce, all kinds of tax laws. I'd like to not enforce sodomy laws.

[Jack Armstrong]

Goes without saying.

[Getty]

And if people can handle an and as opposed to a but or an or or something. And you know, we have to hold our law enforcement to certain standards and all that sort of Stuff, and certainly they can go too far, and all those things can happen. But are you just come flat out coming out on the side of. No, no, no, no. People here illegally with criminal records should get to stay. Oh, and if you beat down a police officer, you should just get to beat him to death and go back in your house. Is that your stance?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because you don't like Trump and you think ICE is overreaching. Okay.

[Getty]

Mayor Fry is getting a lot of attention. He said a couple of things a yesterday that were interesting. The mayor of Minneapolis. Here we go.

[Mayor Jacob Fry]

Imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear. Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted. The local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're. They're scared that their own family might get torn apart. Imagine if schools shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what to do for daycare.

[Getty]

Did you think this through? This little. I feel like you want that one back. That was.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm throwing a flag. That was too perfect. Jack. I'll. I'll give you the honor.

[Getty]

It was almost like I wrote it. Imagine your town being invaded by people who don't share your values or your.

[Jack Armstrong]

Culture or your language.

[Getty]

Thousands and thousands of illegals. Imagine your schools being disrupted. Yeah, they have, like, a third of the people in the classroom in some cities don't speak English, and the teachers don't know how to do with it. Your hospitals. Yeah, but they can't function because you got all these illegals here who don't have health insurance. And. Yeah, you just spelled out why people hate illegal immigration so much.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was too much.

[Getty]

It was too much. Your cafe. Yeah, the restaurant I used to like is now a food that's different than mine, which is not a crime.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I like. Or it closed because of the crime.

[Getty]

Crying. But I liked it the way it was before. And. Yeah, that's. That's really quite amazing that I'm one. And this one. So this one's got a visual to it, which I haven't seen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, I have, and it's delicious. Why don't let's play it once and then we'll. Oh, this is a longer version of it. Oh, go ahead and play it, Michael.

[Mayor Jacob Fry]

And we're in a position right now where we have residents that are asking the very limited number of police officers that we have to fight ICE agents on the street to stand by their neighbors. We cannot be at a place right now in America where we have two Governmental entities that are literally fighting one another.

[Getty]

That's true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's absolutely true. So the visual is that when 16 year old mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, I'm guessing at his age, based on his capacity for logic and his emotionalism.

[Getty]

With the perfect cow hair lick, that he puts just the right product in to get just right in front of his fair head and look kind of tussle haired.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. American boyish appearance matters to 16 year old boys. Anyway, so as he is describing, we have many residents asking the police to fight ice. The police chief is behind him and when he says that, the chief's eyebrows go up in an absolutely unmistakable display of. Wait, what the f. Did you just say?

[Getty]

It's madness. Well, I was talking this morning about how I feel like we've lost the threat and certainly the media coverage has. And I wish we could get to a place of perfectly fine with looking at every interaction with ice, whether or not that was appropriate. Did they make American. American citizens do things that American citizens normally don't like to have to do at the point of law enforcement?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Getty]

Like I'm walking down the street and I got to show you my id, why I live here. I've always lived here. I pay taxes. Leave me alone. Or you know, and then actually put me on the ground because I don't have my driver's license to me. But I'm willing to look at that. But have we lost the thread of. We have something called immigration, you know, custom, whatever it is, enforcement. We have laws around immigration. We have people who are illegally. We have people who are illegally committed crimes. All that stuff's got to happen. Unless you're going to change the laws.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's being presented.

[Getty]

My point is it being presented in the news as. This whole thing is awful, Every bit of it. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why? I agree with you 100%. This is like three topics or segments in a row in which we have laid out elegantly, in my opinion, the simple, inescapable logical reality. Well, the people on the left reject simple logical reality, which is why I was making fun of Jacob Fry and his emotionalism. They see it through the lens of emotion and feeling and all they know is this makes me feel bad. And you explain why. Yeah, okay, I get that. But this is true, this is true, this is true. And so really your recourse is this. And they respond with, well, all I know is it makes me feel bad and you've gotten nowhere. Your logic is wasted. Where does that leave us as a society? I think the difference Is, and this is probably under discussed. For most of the history of our country, the trade of journalism was a working class shoe leather. You start at the bottom, lost pets, police blotter. Then you work your way up to reporting on the council meeting. And then if you show yourself to be really, really good after you've taken in all sorts of life experience, you've seen crime, you've seen criminals, you've been in jails, you've talked to the cops, you've been to the council meetings, you've been to the poor neighborhoods where the, the benefits. You have an enormous amount of life experience, you are promoted to the heights, you become a columnist, a national writer, you cover the White House, that sort of thing. Now you come out of these elite far left journalism schools as a 23 year old rich white kid and you start telling the world how the world ought to be and describing the world as you see it as a barely out of your adolescence, coddled kid. And those are our journalists. And that is a lens that has distorted so many people's view of America. And we're now far enough into that little experiment. We're seeing it on the streets of Minneapolis, for instance. People just are not tethered to reality.

[Getty]

So an incident occurred the other day that we haven't talked about yet. Here's the outline of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somebody needs the idea. Oh, go ahead. Sorry, I didn't know where you're starting. Somebody needs to transcribe that and offer that to some publication. I'm too lazy to type it out, but that was a pretty decent editorial if I do say so. If anybody has the time.

[Getty]

Jack, back to you.

[Jack Armstrong]

You had a clip.

[Getty]

That's funny. Yeah. We haven't touched on this story.

[Armstrong]

The FBI now offering a hundred thousand dollar reward for info leading to the.

[Katie]

Recovery of stolen government property after hundreds protested where a Venezuelan migrant was shot by an ICE officer who had been attacked. Now, Attorney General Pam Bondi says that.

[Armstrong]

A known Latin King's gang member was.

[Katie]

Arrested after he allegedly was one of those people who stole FBI weaponry and documents during that incident.

[Getty]

Weaponry and documents. So we got this text. You guys gonna talk about the protesters pulling out the safe in the back of an ICE vehicle? Yeah, they. They attacked and overwhelmed an ICE vehicle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Getty]

Got the safe out of it, broke it open. Getting guns inside along with a whole bunch of documents.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's an actual insurrection, by the way.

[Getty]

Yeah, and it's a gang, the Latin Kings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and I would like to ask, putting aside the crime and then let's get right back to it. But I would like to ask those protesters, are you against violent criminal, illegal immigrants being arrested? But again, that's simple logic.

[Getty]

How about known gangs that exist in the United States with illegal that already.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have a criminal record that victimize both citizens and immigrants. You're against the arrest of those people? Tell me more. Well, Trump is a fascist. Again, you can't get anywhere with these people. Wow.

[Getty]

They were able to get control of an ice vehicle. I mean you're. The protesters are winning that battle. If they actually are able to get to a vehicle, break into it and then break up in the safe. I don't know how long that would take, but. And then get guns and documents. Wow, that is quite the story. I feel like that's being under reported maybe because there's kind of hard to fit that in with anything that, you know, you're cheering for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. Yay.

[Getty]

And a criminal gang from Venezuela is now got FBI guns and documents.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The under reporting of that gets right back to my premise. That is outrageous. And just the fact of the case is troubling. I find myself wondering, has the madness peaked in Minneapolis?

[Getty]

I sure hope so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are the Mayor Fry, the aforementioned cute 16 year old boy and Stephen Miller, the White House advisor who. Look, and I'm in favor of a lot of stuff Trump does, including to some extent the immigration crackdown. You know, mostly. But Miller wants a crisis. He wants to impose martial law. He's of that sort.

[Getty]

So.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I don't want that at all. So will those sides who are pouring gasoline on the situation prevail or will cooler heads.

[Getty]

So the Christine. Christine. Is it Kirsty or Christie? Christie. Christie currently says that US citizens may have to show their identification to verify that they bel long here. And some former Obama aide said that is a police state. I'm all for discussing that sort of stuff, but still you got to come down to at the very end of the day, are we all on board here that illegals with criminal records, especially in criminal gangs, should go ahead and be apprehended and kicked out of the country? Are we all on board with that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Why don't we just go through these questions one by one. I think that would be productive. By the way, Michael, do you hear what they're calling Christine? Omega Ice Barbie.

[Getty]

That's pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's pretty good.

[Getty]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[Jack Armstrong]

As as shots go, it's pretty good.

[Getty]

One AI is making a psychotic, among other things on the way. Stay here.

[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Getty]

Just came across A great story we'll get to later in the hour of how recycling programs are so often just bunk. They're just a complete charade.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, funny.

[Getty]

It is. It is. It really. It's. Well, it's funny and troubling at the same time. But more on that later. If you're putting your plastics in the blue bin like you're supposed to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two stories very quickly, one of significance, one not really. The numbers are in for Obamacare's annual open enrollment and the number of people who could not sign up because of the expiration of those additional Covid benefits. Remember, the Republicans were going to rip health care out of the hands of dying grandmothers and their. Their grandbabies and there was going to be a drop of seven and a half million people and. Well, the drop was less than a fifth of what was predicted.

[Getty]

Really? Less than a. Wow, that hasn't gotten much attention.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. That's funny, isn't it? How weird. Anyway, and they also point out in the Journal that the.

[Getty]

So yeah, all the media exaggerated and five fold the damage this was going to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, and even the CBO is way the hell off. They weren't as far off as like the Democrats were, but. And they point out that one reason forecasts may have missed the marks is that they overlooked the most the fact that most enrollees still won't have to pay all that much for their plans. If you are at 150% of the poverty line, you're going to pay $14 a week.

[Getty]

Okay, so it's not near the amount of. And it's a fifth as many people. Other than that. Pretty good discussion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So this one is apropos of nothing but kind of hilarious. You know Larry Ellison, the Oracle co founder, zillionaire, blah blah, blah. Well, he's one of those guys who likes to have a super giant yacht and he's got a brand new German yacht. Looks really sexy if you like boats. But he, he decided that it would be cool to name it after the Japanese Shinto goddess of creation and death. I'm not going to have a goddess of death name for my boat. Just seems like a bad omen. But he thought that would be really interesting and so he named it Izanami, which is the goddess's name until he literally saw the name reflected and he realized it spells perfectly backwards. I'm a Nazi. And apparently he didn't want to boat named backward. I'm a Nazi.

[Getty]

I must not be materialistic enough. I look at stuff like that and I think that boat would be fun for a couple of hours. And that. That's about all it would get out of me. Yeah. Whoop dee doo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you don't like boating.

[Getty]

I don't mean that. You give me any example of something. Super gazillionaires I have, and I think, you know the. The compound house with the. What?

[Katie]

What?

[Getty]

All right, whatever. If you enjoy it, you enjoy it, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, teach their own.

[Getty]

I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what you're missing is you have so much money that if you would enjoy this yacht once a month, you got so much money, you might as well.

[Getty]

Yeah, you got it there available for you a couple times a summer. There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, a nice looking yacht. Anyway. He's got. He's got extensive ties to Israel, by the way, and he has warm feelings to the nation of Israel, so he especially wasn't interested in the Nazi moniker. So AI is making a psychotic, huh? Hasn't gotten me yet, but. Well, it's working on it.

[Getty]

If you're of normal brain, you're okay, but if you lean towards psychosis, AI is making it much worse. It's pretty interesting.

[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty, Oscar winning actor Matthew McConaughey taking a stand against anyone planning to use AI to recreate his image, likeness and voice without his permission.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, all right, all right.

[Armstrong]

The Hollywood star trademarking his, himself and his iconic catchphrase in the 1993 cult classic Dazed and Confused. Seven other trademarks also secured. The actor telling the Wall Street Journal, I want to know that when my voice or likeness is ever used, it's because I approved and signed off on it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fair enough.

[Getty]

Yeah, I can see how that. You could. You could enforce that somebody making money off of you and you're saying or whatever, but people just voice, but people just doing it for. You know, I make a Matthew McConaughey video to send to Joe because it's funny. There's nothing you can do about that. No, I don't think he would. No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really?

[Getty]

Well, or just, you know, just one going around the Internet where you have him saying something ridiculous and millions of people have seen it. As long as not a particular person is profiting from it, I don't know how you'd stop it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you probably wouldn't have to. You know, you're getting into copyright law and fair use and that sort of stuff. There are examples of when you would and when you wouldn't.

[Getty]

Anyway, the whole AI thing is. Is bananas, as we all know, and we have no idea where it's going and all these different sort of stuff. That's speaking of bananas. Banana is kind of a term for crazy. We throw around terms like crazy and psychotic and psychosis and stuff regularly. We all do without necessarily meaning the deduction, dictionary definition or medical definition of these things. Right. Oh, you're crazy. If you say to some of you're crazy, you're psychotic, you don't mean they're having a psychotic episode and probably should be in the care of a physician. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a whimsical way to say you're disconnected with reality.

[Getty]

Well, right. That's what psychosis is. Psychosis involves a loss of contact with shared reality. That's the definition. So what's shared reality? That's what most of us believe. Is that what that means?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Getty]

What most of humanity thinks is happening, and you think of something is happening completely different. You're into psychosis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I always heard it described as neurosis. A term they used to use is when you misinterpret reality, psychosis is when you can't even perceive it. Wow.

[Getty]

I'm just trying to think of some people I know are pretty down the whole conspiracy theory world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mm.

[Getty]

Are you into psychosis? If you're the. I don't know what percent of the population buys into some of these things, whether it's chemtrails or Candace Owens or whatever. Are you into psychosis there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting question. You get far enough down the line, you gotta be close.

[Getty]

Anyway, a certain number of people have this situation, and it's always been tough to deal with the delusions of psychosis. I'm reading from this study finds.org which has got a new paper out about AI psychosis being a particular thing. The delusions of psychosis often draw on cultural material, religion, technology, or political power structures to make sense of internal experiences. So you got kind of a psychosis thing going, and you grab onto a chemtrail theory or the Rothschild family running the world or whatever it is to make sense of your world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Why am I hearing voices? It's because the government has put a tag in my underwear that they broadcast to me through.

[Getty]

Anyway, AI psychosis is not yet a formal psychiatric diagnosis. It's not in the dsm, but it may be soon. It's an emerging shorthand used by clinicians and researchers to describe psychotic symptoms that are shaped, intensified, or structured around interactions with AI systems. And what it says here, and I believe it's almost certainly true that people who have that tendency are really susceptible to these AI chat bots and starting to interact with them like they're, like they're people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

If you've done any interacting with the chat bot, it is difficult to not refer to it as a him or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her or even if you don't refer to it, to think of it. I told Jack the other day off the air that I was having it was chat GPT do something that was fairly long. And I realized I was feeling guilty about asking it to do something that big. And I thought, wait a minute, you idiot.

[Mayor Jacob Fry]

I know.

[Getty]

Here's my example, Captain Rational.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on.

[Getty]

My example of that is I get concerned when my kids are jerking around my, my Grok chatbot in my truck. You have Grok in the Teslas. And I use Grok for lots of different things. And then my kid will, kids will say something really inappropriate to say to a woman. My, my teenagers. Shocking that teenage boys would do that. And I'm like, I'm comfortable. It's like, hey, don't talk to her that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I kind of get that. You don't want to see your kids modeling behavior you don't approve of toward a computer.

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What if they, what if they said something really mean to a mouse? I don't mean the rodent. I mean the computer mouse. Would you be worried? You shouldn't talk that way. It's the same sort of thing. Yes, Katie.

[Katie]

I'm just pondering the idea of you telling them, don't talk to her like.

[Getty]

Well, right, exactly. Me saying her is weird. Me feeling uncomfortable with the things they say in the car because she heard it. That's weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, okay, I, I, I'm intrigued by this. I'm not arguing. I'm just, I want to, I want to roll it around and look at it a little bit. So they're arguably saying things to a female voice that you'd never want to, to be said to a female human. Okay. A female sounding voice.

[Mayor Jacob Fry]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so I get why that would make you feel uncomfortable.

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Should I be able to make the leap very quickly that this is not a female of any kind?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. But what if I were to say, and this is an extreme example, but we can go from here. What if I were to say to my robot helper, I'd like to slit your throat and watch your hydraulic fluid run out? It's a robot. It's got no feelings. But if my kids said that, that I'd be a little concerned.

[Getty]

Well, what if they're old enough to be teenagers and they're, you know, they're Just kidding. Like you're kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's. That's why I would be a little concerned. And I didn't say I would have them kidnapped into some sort of, you know, work camp where they get re educated. I would just say, hey, that.

[Getty]

That was a little brutal sounding. Just regularly referred to your robot like, you stupid effing robot. Does that make you a bad person?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's. You're expressing something. You're letting something out. But I have to hear. I. I actually think the. The idea of your sons doing what they're doing is hilarious. I'm just. I'm kind of interested in a. You know, is there room for answer.

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And how would a young teenage Joe not have done that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, please. All day long. I'm. I wouldn't have done it in front of my dad probably, but. Oh, my friends and I. Oh, we would have been horrifying. Jack, do you make them apologize to her?

[Getty]

You apologize to her right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, beautiful. Oh, I can picture it happening. And it's hilarious. It's.

[Getty]

It's. It's so weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

You. You stupid.

[Getty]

Be. Like last night, we're driving. My son and I are driving to the Sonic, so we're trying to slip in a meal before a big meeting at the school, and the day had gotten out of hand, and we both swore afterwards, by the way, let's boat. Let's make a pinky swear. Neither one of us lets the other person ever eat at Sonic again. We felt horrible afterwards. Oh, really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Segment brought to you by Sonic.

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It's just fast food, you know. You know how it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's delicious.

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Going down. Then you think, oh, my God, I feel like I'm gonna die. Anywho, on the way to the Sonic, you know, I've sworn off desserts for 26, and my son has sworn off sworn off sodas for 2026. And he said, is a cherry limeade a soda? Does that count as a soda? And I said, well, probably, but I'm. You know, it's not Coke or Pepsi. I mean, that's what you're trying to give up is.

[Katie]

I'd vote it's a lemonade.

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So I asked Grok, I said, is a cherry limeade a soda? And she said, yeah, a cherry limeade is made with soda water and has the same blah, blah, blah properties and blah, blah, blah. And I said, yeah, well, my son, he's given up sodas for the year 2026. So do you think this is fudging on his new. She said, I can understand where you're going with this, but I think it still counts as a soda. Sorry about that. And I think if she had said it was okay, we would have done it, which is kind of weird on its own.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is interesting. Yeah. Well. Yeah. Was he. Is he giving up carbonation because it makes him burp? No, he's giving up sugary water because it's bad for his health.

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You're a stupid bee. I said to her, oh, that's hurtful. Wow. No wonder you're single. I said to her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jeez. See, I'm uncomfortable with that.

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You're a pedantic bee.

[Jack Armstrong]

When you said, that's fine.

[Getty]

You're gonna die alone.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no, it did. Again, I'll cross the line.

[Katie]

Does she respond to any of this?

[Getty]

To what?

[Katie]

Any of your abuse.

[Getty]

No. No, I didn't do the abuse because I feel uncomfortable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh.

[Getty]

I feel uncomfortable actually saying that I should do it more often. Although this is real. This is not psychosis you develop. You could use the word relationship with these things and that they keep track of your answers, interactions, and respond accordingly. You develop kind of like an algorithm for the way they respond to your questions about various topics. Yeah, and I don't want to be that person. I want to be logical, actually asking questions to get a real answer.

[Katie]

Guy, did you happen to get your 2025 chat GPT roundup for the year? Did you look at that?

[Getty]

No, I did nothing.

[Katie]

So it goes along with what you're talking about. It categorized the way that I speak, what it thinks, my personality type.

[Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Getty]

There you go. There's an example that. That's why I don't want to joke around and say all that different sort of stuff, because I don't want to throw off that algorithm. And I don't know if that's worth anything or not. If there's any value to having it. A more accurate portrayal of who I am for answering questions. But I think it might.

[Katie]

Yeah, it did this whole thing Chat GPT wrapped, and it told me, highlighting the things that I like to ask questions about and just my type of speech. It was interesting.

[Getty]

You know, if the. The end of the year roundup is you're an abusive lunatic.

[Jack Armstrong]

You talk like you got marbles in your mouth, by the way. So where do you find that?

[Getty]

Katie, you sound like someone should be in jail already. It would say to me.

[Katie]

It was popping up at the top of my app there for a minute. I'll have to go back through and. And let you know because it. It's still on there somewhere.

[Getty]

Well, the main reason to bring this story was if you got a family member, anybody who leans a little toward the psychosis, you know, world of looking for answers in strange places to make sense of the world. Keep an eye on the whole AI thing, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you can combine athletes from two different sports, for instance, or use the same athlete multiple times if you think they're truly going to go off. And this is kind of fun. If you download the prize picks app today and use the code Armstrong, they'll give you $50 in lineups to play around with after you play your first $5 lineup. Let's go to Armstrong. And you get $50 worth of lineups to play after you played your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right.

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Do we have anybody listening who has. Because I've not had this experience, thank God, gotten any sense of comfort from any conversations with an AI chat bot. I love being able to get the information, everything like that, but I've never had a feeling of connection or like a feeling of, well, it's nice to have somebody to talk to.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, here's a question, here's kind of a tangential question. Have you ever had a feeling of gratitude when it gave you a really good way to look at a problem?

[Getty]

I think gratitude that exists, but that's like gratitude that I got a good lawnmower. I mean, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fair enough.

[Katie]

Yeah, it helped me a lot when I was doing the IVF stuff, getting pregnant. A lot of answers when I was unsure and really worried about something. I did feel a sense of calm after, you know, air quotes, talking to it.

[Getty]

But I'm just thinking of it in terms of like if you, you know, you realize you reach for a cigarette or a beer or a piece of cake when you're upset. Are you? And it gives you some comfort. Are you reaching for a conversation with the AI and you think, that was good. I had a rough day and it was nice to have that. Anybody have that? Because I know some people are. Our text line is 415295KFTC. Yes, Katie, before we take a break.

[Katie]

If you want to see your year with Chat GPT, just in the prompt where you would usually type something, say, show my. Show me my 2025 year with Chat GPT, and it'll pop up that this little screen, you click on it and it's going to tell you all about yourself.

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And then show me what I look like naked. If I had Thor's body. If you could do that also.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's grok. Yeah.

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More on the way.

[Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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I can't believe the Dodgers just spent a quarter of a billion dollars on yet another star player when they've already won two World Series back to back. That is unbelievable. In our four, we're going to talk about this story that's getting a lot of attention. This reporter that came in contact with an Amazon tribe that had never met the modern world. One of those stories, and it's pretty danged interesting. I've been following it all week long, so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the other day I ran into an Amazon drive road. Never met the modern world. Oh. So speaking of funny, this is. Katie and I were just doing this during the break, and I am so amused by this. So Katie turned us onto the fact that you can have Chat GPT, kind of summarize your year of asking questions and that sort of thing. And it starts with summarizing your year in poetry, which is. Wait, whose idea was this? So you want to do yours first, Katie? Or I can do mine. Either way, I'll go ahead. Okay, go ahead.

[Katie]

You faced each twist with grace and keen flair. From studio lights to ivf care. Your humor stayed bright. Your grit burned through the night. You turned every trial into something rare.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's just. That's just beautiful, man.

[Katie]

The studio lights thing. I was asking about the best lighting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, here you go. Let me. Before we get into it too far, let me. Let me do mine. You chase meaning through oak and through lore. Each bookshelf a story to store. From Dickens to Weiss. You discern what is wise. Your taste frames the past evermore. A curator of time at your core. Duh. I was shopping for bookshelves.

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So you ask it to compare bookshelves or find me a good bookshelf. And now it works. It into its poem about its end of the year look back on your life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Another one thing ChatGPT or AI hasn't figured out is that some things don't deserve poetry. Hey, honey, I'm going to the store to get bread. You seek baked nutrition where it might be hidden, the yeast of discovery fresh in the oven of reality. No, I'm just going to get some effing bread. Shut up. Wow.

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You sought relief from athlete's foot and now you understand what?

[Jack Armstrong]

The burning of toes plagues your days and nights, and yet the triumph of the spirit shall. No, it's fine. I gotta spray. You don't need to give me a poem.

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You didn't know the zip code for Montana, yet you were able to.

[Jack Armstrong]

The mysteries of the west confront you, and yet you persevere till you get. There's a code for Missoula.

[Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. That's just silly.

[Getty]

Thanks for trying to build my personality around my few questions I asked you last year. That is hilarious.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is so damned funny. What does it do next?

[Getty]

The playoff batting average for Ohtani. You sought what? That doesn't mean anything. It's not that big a deal. Yeah, there's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Yeah. At one point I asked this kind of espresso. Why is it. What does that name mean? It's really not worth recounting. Right, yeah, not a big deal. Three big things. Three big themes of 2025 include everyday curiosity and care. Yeah, I asked you about stuff I didn't know about. Right.

[Getty]

But to my point of. One of the reasons I don't like to jerk around the. The AI chat bots is they are compiling kind of a view of you that I have noticed that they use for answering questions about things. And if you use this thing for like, say you start using, you know, for the younger generation, you start using Chat GPT and it keeps track of your questions until you're in your 30s. It's got, you know, 20 years of data points on your personality that could be pretty really interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and you can edit it, allegedly. You can have stuff removed, but I mean, if you're like a 15 year old, you got some anger problems, your family's a little dysfunctional, and you really want to kill the neighborhood cats. You know, you think about killing neighborhood animals a lot. You know, you grow out of it, you get some counseling, whatever, but you don't want that in your, you know, Chat GPT history.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you're running for the school board. All of the said, can we trust our children? The man who fantasized about strangling cats, and you're thinking, wait, what?

[Getty]

Right?

[Katie]

Last week we found out that they. They gossip about us to each other, all the different.

[Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie]

AIs.

[Getty]

Yeah, man. This is a weird world we're going into. If you missed a segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Armstrong]

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