You Will Need to Pick a Path

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "You Will Need to Pick a Path"

Episode Information:

• Title: You Will Need to Pick a Path
• Release Date: May 28, 2025
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Description: The official, On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show!  Accept no substitutes!

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1. Geopolitical Tensions: Russia, Ukraine, and U.S. Sanctions

Discussion on Russian Aggression and U.S. Response Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into the escalating tensions between the United States and Russia, focusing on President Trump's stance and the potential implications of imposing harsh sanctions on Russia.

• Trump’s Declaration and Medvedev’s Retort:
  • Jack Armstrong (03:15): “Trump blasts out at Russia yesterday at Putin, hey, if it weren't for me, really, really bad things would have happened to you.”
  • Dmitry Medvedev (03:35): “I only know of one really bad thing. World War Three.”

Analysis of Sanction Strategies and European Support The hosts analyze the effectiveness of the U.S. sanctions, emphasizing Europe's unified stance against Russia, contrasting it with past sanctions on countries like Iraq where Europe did not fully comply.

• Jimmy Mullen, Senator (05:58): “If Putin continues to push this envelope, he’s going to give Zelensky the tools he needs to fight back with the full support of the United States. But Europe needs to take the lead.”

Risk of Escalation to World War III Armstrong and Getty discuss the precarious balance of power, highlighting how inadequate support for Ukraine could embolden Putin, potentially leading to broader conflicts.

• Jack Armstrong (09:04): “If we let Putin grab a big chunk of Ukraine, then he takes some Estonia. If NATO lives up to its obligations, NATO is at war with the number one nuclear power in the world immediately.”

Future of U.S. Foreign Policy Under Trump The conversation shifts to President Trump's impending decisions on foreign policy concerning Russia, Iran, and China, stressing the significance of the next few months for America's global standing.

• Jack Armstrong (12:58): “These decisions need to be made soon. The next few months may be as significant for America's role in the world as any since the end of the Cold War.”

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2. Leadership and Personal Dynamics: The Macron Incident

Emmanuel Macron and His Wife’s Altercation A significant portion of the episode examines a viral incident involving French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife, focusing on public perceptions and the implications for Macron’s image.

• Jack Armstrong (26:38): “The president of France landed on Air Force One and his wife shoved him in the face... The whole world is speculating what was going on there.”

Lip-Reading and Public Interpretation The hosts discuss a lip-read interpretation of the incident, offering insights into the strained dynamics between Macron and his wife.

• Lip Reader’s Translation (28:56): “Stay away, you loser.”
• Jack Armstrong (29:55): “She appears to mutter the phrase translated to 'Stay away, you loser.'”

Cultural Differences in Leadership Roles Armstrong and Getty explore the cultural acceptance of Macron's relationship with his wife, contrasting it with American norms and political acceptability.

• Joe Getty (37:25): “You couldn't be the first lady who hosts these white tie dinners... when you were involved with your 15-year-old teacher as a 40-year-old.”

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3. Domestic Policies and Social Issues

China and Foreign Students in the U.S. The hosts address the influx of Chinese and Indian students in the United States, discussing concerns related to espionage and the economic impact of international tuition.

• Joe Getty (23:07): “There are more than a quarter million Chinese nationals studying in the US right now. Some of them are doing espionage work.”

Supplements and Public Health Concerns A brief segment highlights the rise in supplement usage and associated health risks, emphasizing the need for consumer awareness.

• Colby Ekowitz (24:07): “One study found serious liver failure cases related to supplements increased eightfold between 1995 and 2020.”

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4. Technology and Security

Identity Theft and Protection Amidst the broader discussions, Armstrong and Getty touch upon the increasing threats of identity theft, underscoring the importance of protective measures.

• Jack Armstrong (47:23): “Not everyone who handles your personal information is going to be as careful as you are. It only takes one mistake to expose it to hackers and identity theft.”

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5. Social Commentary and Personal Reflections

Relationship Dynamics and Public Perception The podcast delves into the personal lives of public figures, using Macron’s incident to explore broader themes of relationship struggles and public image maintenance.

• Jack Armstrong (32:57): “You never know with people in their relationships. Some people are more fiery, and some are willing to put up with that.”

Community and Civic Engagement The hosts commend local initiatives in San Francisco aimed at community-driven solutions to urban problems, highlighting the positive impact of neighborhood organizations.

• Joe Getty (46:13): “San Francisco is doing some really, really good things about cleaning itself up. The new leadership is absolutely kicking butt.”

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6. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

Reflection on Current Events and Future Outlook In their closing segment, Armstrong and Getty reflect on the day's discussions, emphasizing the importance of informed decision-making and community involvement.

• Joe Getty (45:15): “Neighborhood folks who did not passively wait for the authorities have taken action. This is very, very American.”

Personal Achievements and Community Successes The hosts share personal anecdotes, celebrating achievements such as Jack Armstrong’s son's progression in Boy Scouts and San Francisco’s community efforts.

• Jack Armstrong (45:53): “My son moved up the next level in Boy Scouts last night. He was very proud of himself.”

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Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong (03:15): “Trump blasts out at Russia yesterday at Putin, hey, if it weren't for me, really, really bad things would have happened to you.”

• Dmitry Medvedev (03:35): “I only know of one really bad thing. World War Three.”

• Jimmy Mullen, Senator (05:58): “If Putin continues to push this envelope, he’s going to give Zelensky the tools he needs to fight back with the full support of the United States. But Europe needs to take the lead.”

• Jack Armstrong (09:04): “If we let Putin grab a big chunk of Ukraine, then he takes some Estonia. If NATO lives up to its obligations, NATO is at war with the number one nuclear power in the world immediately.”

• Jack Armstrong (12:58): “These decisions need to be made soon. The next few months may be as significant for America's role in the world as any since the end of the Cold War.”

• Lip Reader’s Translation (28:56): “Stay away, you loser.”

• Jack Armstrong (29:55): “She appears to mutter the phrase translated to 'Stay away, you loser.'”

• Joe Getty (23:07): “There are more than a quarter million Chinese nationals studying in the US right now. Some of them are doing espionage work.”

• Jack Armstrong (47:23): “Not everyone who handles your personal information is going to be as careful as you are. It only takes one mistake to expose it to hackers and identity theft.”

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Conclusion

In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand titled "You Will Need to Pick a Path," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty engage in a comprehensive discussion on pressing geopolitical issues, particularly focusing on U.S.-Russia relations and the potential for escalating conflicts. They also delve into domestic matters, such as the influence of foreign students and public health concerns related to supplement usage. Intertwined with these serious topics are personal anecdotes and social commentaries, providing a well-rounded perspective for listeners. Throughout the episode, notable quotes and insightful analysis offer depth, making the content both engaging and informative for those seeking to understand complex current events.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Colby Ekowitz]

Putin's lackey. Dmitry Medvedev, who served as the bridge between Putin's presidential terms, has posted an implicit threat as President Trump is weighing these harsh sanctions on Russia. Medvedev writes regarding Trump's words about Putin playing with fire and really bad things happening to Russia. I only know of one really bad thing. World War Three. I hope Trump understands this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's nice. As the country with the most nuclear weapons on planet Earth, by the way, more than China or the United States threatening World War iii. Why did Medvedev do that? You'll remember Trump said this the other.

[Joe Getty]

Day because he has.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like what Putin is doing.

[Joe Getty]

Not even his butt. That's why he said that. He's got Putin's forearm up. His body's a puppet. He's a spokesman. When you want a statement to be like, one step removed from Putin himself, it's to be taken seriously.

[Jack Armstrong]

Reminds me, did he update on the way?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Lord. Sorry, Michael. I think you're trying to play some audio.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like what Putin is doing, not even a little bit. He's killing people, and something happened to this guy, and I don't like it. Right. So Trump said that the other day. Then yesterday he truthed out. What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is if it weren't for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia. And I mean really bad. All caps. He's playing with fire. So that's when Medvedev fires back. Oh, yeah. One bad thing I can think of. World War iii. There's no way he talks without Putin's agreement. Right. Or you fall out a window, right?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He is again, he is the guy who puts out a statement if you want it one step removed from Putin himself.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. So you think not only was he reflecting Putin's thoughts, it was thought out that much like I. If I say it, that's the one step more than I want to go right now.

[Joe Getty]

How about you say, yeah, yeah, absolutely. He wanted to raise the specter of World War iii, and thought having Medved Medvedev speak the words was was a good interim step.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the ball is definitely on in Trump's court right now. Jackie Heinrich of Fox reporting on where that might be.

[Colby Ekowitz]

But the president's patience does appear to be running thin. The White House, we know, is actively reviewing sanctions options, and already the Senate has a veto proof bill ready to go that would slap 500% tariffs on any country that buys Russian energy. And you're already hearing from some congressional Republicans say that they are ready to see the Senate act with or without the White House's green light.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I think even more importantly than that is that Europe is completely on board with those level of sanctions and would help enforce them. Because, I mean, like we had all kinds of sanctions on Iraq, but France continued to buy from Iraq even they were our friends. Europe passed these really, really tough sanctions a week or so ago and that's when Trump undermined them with this phony peace talk in Istanbul stuff that delayed things by a week or so.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Meanwhile, we, the United States, are actively aiding NATO in beefing up the defenses of our allied countries in the north, particularly close to Russia. We are actively helping arm them. So what Trump is thinking or what's going on behind the scenes, very mystifying to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what Trump is thinking. According to NBC News, intelligence officials believe Putin. The reason Putin has amped up his attacks during these so called ceasefire talks, which don't exist. The reason he's amped up, amplified his attacks on Keev with the biggest drone attack of the entire war over the weekend is he thinks Trump will walk away from the whole thing. That's what Putin believes. He thinks Trump's reaction won't be, all right, that's it, and start arming Ukraine. Putin thinks Trump's gonna say, all right, that's it, I don't want anything to do with this anymore and just get out of it. That's Putin's belief. Whether he's right or not, I actually.

[Joe Getty]

Don'T know evidence to the contrary. What we're doing in northern Europe, which I just mentioned, the fact that in the Senate there are, I think, 82 co sponsors of this hardcore sanction Russia bill going on. And then very. This is clip 56, Michael very Trumpy friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen said this on Hannity. The president has been very patient with Putin. At the same time, he's trying to clean up a mess that he didn't start right. He's been very clear from day one he wanted the killing to stop. He's tried to work with Putin. His patience is running thin. And if Putin continues to push this envelope the way that he is, he's going to give Zelensky the tools he needs to fight back on the full scale and full support of the United States. But Europe needs to take a lead.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope that's true. But Trump said to reporters in the Middle east as recently as last weekend, JD Vance said it too, that they were leaning more toward throw up their hands. Okay, you all work it out. It's not our problem, not our circus, not our monkeys.

[Joe Getty]

Very clearly a divide behind the scenes between J.D. vance and the restrainers and your Lindsey Graham types and Mark Wait and Mullen. I mean, that was. And again, Mark Wayne is quite close to Trump to say we'll give Zelensky everything he needs. That is a real departure from the more J.D.

[Jack Armstrong]

Vancey and State God, I'd say so now there is evidence. My favorite podcast on this from the Telegraph newspaper in London. I listened to at least parts of it every single day. It's so good. With the latest news on Ukraine and then their analysis, which is fantastic. But they say there's all kinds of indications that Russia is building up for a major offensive coming up in the near future. And Ukraine believes that, too. They're getting all kinds of cell phone pings and seeing supply line stuff that leads them to believe Russia's planning for a major offensive. So if we would throw up our hands and back off and most importantly, stop with the intelligence sharing that we did briefly a while back, remember when Trump threatened it, Ukraine would be in a bad spot.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah, Agreed. Disastrous.

[Jack Armstrong]

I also think if Putin has his way, I think he will try to take one of those smaller NATO countries. He'll make up a reason, he'll take a portion of it and see how the world reacts. Then you got the full on this NATO real is article 5 real or not situation.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And it, it could be like almost hilariously small, the incursion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

As he is attempting to find out if he's got another Biden on his hand. Just depends on the size of the incursion. Because if, you know, there's some, you know, little farm town in Estonia where two thirds of the people speak Russian.

[Jack Armstrong]

And just grab that little town and some Russian gets killed maybe by Putin because he's done this sort of thing before.

[Joe Getty]

Classic.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he can blame it on someone else. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And we are merely protecting ethnic Russians for a temporary period, he will say, and the world will be like, I wonder if it's really temporary. And maybe he was just worried about those people.

[Jack Armstrong]

So those of you who believe us being involved in this and pushing back into Putin is going to lead to World War 3, I think World War 3 is more likely with that scenario. You let Putin grab a big chunk of Ukraine, then he takes some Estonia. If NATO lives up to its obligations, NATO, which is us more than anybody else, is at war with the number one nuclear power in the world immediately.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and you have to factor into this discussion the other two main foreign policy pivot points we're at. And you know, I get tired of hyperbole and clickbait and I really try not to engage in it. But this might not just be changes in America's foreign policy. This could be like inflection points in history. You've got the China thing, Taiwan aggression in the South China Sea, all sorts of different examples. They're on the move all over the world aggressively. Do they think there will be a low cost to territorial acquisition and acts of aggression, or did they think there will be a very high cost to doing those things that will change Xi Jinping's calculations? And they are watching intently to see what's happening here. Likewise, although it's different in several way, different ways, the whole Iran nuclear program thing, where are we with that? Trump has said, dismantle your nuclear program in verifiable ways or the US Will dismantle it by force. We are getting very, very close to one or the other is going to happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let me read from the Wall Street Journal opinion page on this today. President Trump's foreign policy has been coasting so far in his verbal threats and public cajoling, but he'll soon face moments of decision on US Adversaries that will echo throughout his second term and and could determine his legacy. I agree the threats and the this and that to reporters is about to be over. And you gotta pick a path like today or this weekend, like really soon.

[Joe Getty]

And with all due respect to how much I love a lot of what he's done, the various Doge things and Harvard battles and, you know, lower court fights that have been making the headlines in recent weeks will seem like Lilliputians compared to some of the headlines we might see going forward.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I would assume that the Wall Street Journal editorial board doesn't love the idea of a major war that's not usually good for the stock market, that sort of uncertainty, because you never know once you unleash the dogs of war, where that's going. But.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I think the J.D. vance of the world will say no, they love it. It's good for economies, especially defense contractors.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know that is what he would say.

[Joe Getty]

So I'll tip my cap to that argument.

[Jack Armstrong]

The editorial board writes this, but the world is Mr. Trump now faces crucial decisions on Russia, Iran, and China, as you just said, those adversaries are increasingly working together against American interests. Will the president send a message of deterrence or weakness? That's a damn good question. And I don't, actually, I don't have the slightest idea. Mr. Trump has to decide what kind of relationship he wants with China, what kind of. How hard he wants to push on Iran, and what he's going to do on Russia. And these decisions need to be made soon. The next few months may be as significant for America's role in the world as any since the end of the Cold War. I think that is without a doubt true. It's a big deal. These are not minor things.

[Joe Getty]

No, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Before we take a break, do you think he's leaning toward throwing up his hands? Not our circus, not our monkeys. Or we can't let this happen. Slash, Putin's making me look weak.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, I was going to say, I suspect with 61% confidence.

[Jack Armstrong]

61.

[Joe Getty]

61% confidence that we, the United States, will forcefully back Ukraine and NATO, both for some of the right reasons and some of the wrong reasons, like Trump feels like his manhood is being challenged, although that's an uncharitable way to put it. And I think Trump is easily butthurt and takes everything way too personally. Had noticed that if the. If the strength of the United States and its resolution is being challenged, that's. That's kind of in the same department as the President himself being personally challenged. And we got to stand up for that, in my opinion. I invited folks earlier today, and I will repeat that invite. Why are we wrong? Mailbagarmstrongandgetty.com Drop us a note. You cannot use the term neocon, nor forever wars, because those are not arguments, those are slogans. And we will consider your point of view and bring them to the people tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know we gotta take a break, but if. If I had to bet money, I'd say it goes that direction also. But if we make it clear we're arming Ukraine, 500% sanctions, I mean, really go not all in. I mean, because there'd be troops on the ground, but quite a bit in how does Putin react? So go ahead and fight that fight, or realize that I can't take this on.

[Joe Getty]

Makes material threats to use a technical nuclear device, Moves those teams into place, rattles his saber very, very loudly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, those are gonna. Those are gonna be some edgy days if he does that, and he probably will. All right, stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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That is awesome. And catching criminals. But, man, if we ever end up with a government that wants to spy on us, their ability to track a, you know, a political group that wants to, for instance, fight that happening.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. Xi Jinping is like, yeah. Good start, guys. You got the idea. Way to go. Totally different topic. The Trump administration fighting with Harvard. How much time do we have, Michael? Not. Not very much. Huh. While we have a minute trying to deal with foreign students, agitators, that sort of thing, I'm in support of it in principle. Some of the stuff they're doing is good. Some won't work. It won't pass the courts. Kind of silly in my opinion. But there are 1.1 million foreign students in the US right now. That's up 7% from last year. It's the highest number ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Students from China and India account for more than half of the Ford and student population. India more than China, but there are more than a quarter million Chinese nationals, quote, unquote, studying in the US right now. Some of them are studying. Some of them are doing espionage work. Some of them are studying but will be forced to do espionage work. And why do we permit this? Why do colleges like this so much? In a word, Money. Study in 2015 found out found that these foreign students make up less than 5% of students, but they contribute 28% of tuition revenue. Wow. So espionage be damned.

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[Joe Getty]

Goodbye.

[Jack Armstrong]

The video of the shove quickly going viral. The President's team initially called it a.

[Joe Getty]

Fake, but later Macron acknowledged it was real, downplaying the incident, saying he and.

[Jack Armstrong]

His wife were bickering and joking.

[Joe Getty]

So bickering or joking?

[Jack Armstrong]

Bickering and joking. They usually don't go together. Sometimes there's joking, then it Turns into bickering. It doesn't go back to joking maybe for quite a while. The, the. The interesting nugget there. That was news to me. Now we're talking about McCrone. I assume you know this, that the president of France, they land on their air force one and open the door and she shoves him in the face. And then he looks out the door like, ah, everybody saw that.

[Joe Getty]

Then smiles. Hi everybody. Nothing to see here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then the whole world is speculating what the hell was going on there. I didn't know that his office. Anyway, their first response to reporters was that was fake. So freaking weak that.

[Joe Getty]

That.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we knew this was coming with AI because we had what, a week or so ago you had the. Him grabbing the baggie of coke off the table, which to me was obviously fake. But, you know, so the, the. The ground has been laid all around the world with so many fake videos to claim a real one is fake. I always thought that's going to be the biggest danger is being able to claim the real stuff is fake. Even more than the. The fake stuff convincing people jail.

[Joe Getty]

We're 100% there. 100%.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a trouble. But. So what was going on there with the. Her shoving him in the face? As I said yesterday, I. I have seen couples playfully do that sort of thing. But the way she didn't grab his arm when they came down the stairs made it seem. I mean, if they had like smiled and held hands as they went down the stairs, I'd have thought, okay, that.

[Joe Getty]

Was just some sort of playful whatever, right? That is not what he offered his arm and she just turned and cried.

[Jack Armstrong]

We now know what they said. According to a lip reader.

[Joe Getty]

Soccer.

[Jack Armstrong]

A lip reader read the lips. And here we go. In an unexpected moment, she pushes him in the face. After the door opened and McCrone noticed that the cameras were on him, he then said hi before raising his hand. Even I, not an expert lip reader, was able to tell that was some sort of gesture similar to I. He then steps closer to her before composing himself and crossing to the other side. Moments later, he signals for her to follow him with let's go. The lip reader said. He thanks the pilot and waves at the cameras, trying to recover his public facing image. But at the top of the stairs, things turn icy again, says the lip reader. He offers his arm. She ignores it, choosing to cling to the railing instead. As she passes, she appears to mutter the gage espouse de loser. Translated in English Stay away, you loser. Now.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't Know if I believe that she actually said to her husband, stay away, you loser. I mean, that's too much.

[Joe Getty]

No, that fits perfectly with a shove in the face. Are you kidding? The hand on face? Get away from me. I. I am claiming it. I am saying le authentique.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have never called a person a female, you know, love, relationship, person, a loser in an argument, ever. I don't, can't imagine that I ever would.

[Joe Getty]

That sounds more like the thing a woman would say to a man.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never been called that. I would take that as pretty damned. This is close to broken and irreparable.

[Joe Getty]

That is the one thing a relationship cannot survive. Contempt.

[Jack Armstrong]

Both hands. According to the videos, when you really slow it down, she shoved him in the face with both hands. She looks to weigh about 105 pounds. Of course, he looks to weigh about 102 pounds. So it's hard to say how that bout would go. It is a bantamweight bout, no doubt.

[Joe Getty]

I hope those crazy kids can settle it before it comes to the fisticuffs. More blows, obviously.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she says, stay away, you loser. Moments later, the lip reader claims Macron said as yon sele plate, which translated to let's try please. She responds non, which I assume means no.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, his close, We. We. Non is known yes, we.

[Jack Armstrong]

His closing expression in the phrase lip read as j vos, translated in English is I see. According to the lip reader, or also.

[Joe Getty]

Translated in English as All right, okay, great. I got no time for this.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's how it's gonna be.

[Joe Getty]

I'm the president of a dying socialist republic that used to be an empire. I got no time for your crap. Yeah, said the loser. She replies.

[Jack Armstrong]

You never know with people in their relationships. So I remember reading, I think it was in the book Game Change way back in the day, probably was about McCain running against Barack Obama. Mark Halpern and Heilman wrote that book. Anyway, there was a on the tarmac moment with John McCain and his wife, who they stayed married till the day he died. And they seemed to be a happy couple. But he was in her face, red faced, screaming at her, just screaming at her. And that was sort of chalked up to he has a temper, you know, he was a prisoner war, beaten daily for eight years, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she's used to it or something. But you know, some people are more fiery. Some people are willing to put up with fiery more than other people are, I guess. So who knows, Maybe she shoves him in the face and does the don't hold my hand, you loser routine twice a year. Who knows?

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. It all rings true though. She's, you know, being schlepped around the world on these trips where he's got meetings and, and, and she's just got a smile and shake hands and look fascinated by the foreign leaders, you know, greetings and the rest of it. Then go watch some native damn dance and eat some native damn food. And she's not in the mood. She's married to a French wussy. Boy. Some days she's just had it up to here. You're at it and says, get off me, loser.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're at some three hour meal where you've got to talk to the wife of the assistant minister of something or other.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's funny you say that coming out of. We just came out of Jill Biden with roughly the same lifestyle. Seemed to be willing to do anything to hang on to that lifestyle. As opposed to.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sick of this different human being.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure, yeah. And you know, arguing against myself. Michelle Obama, we now know. And she keeps talking about it more and more. Absolutely freaking hated the whole first lady thing. Hated every bit of it.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Yeah. I don't blame her.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't blame her either. Man, the charm would go out of that really fast for me.

[Joe Getty]

And it wasn't because she had a schwance, by the way. So quit with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm having a penis. Make her hate it more or less.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know, being first lady, too much pressure. I don't know, somebody might discover it.

[Jack Armstrong]

You dance on melon, all of a sudden it slips out of your slacks. I've seen that video.

[Joe Getty]

But no, no, no, it didn't. No. But anyway, yeah, so you had Michelle, who despised it, and Jill Biden who would perpetrate a fraud and trot out her senile husband to be humiliated if that's what it took to hold on to the trappings of power.

[Jack Armstrong]

Joe, you did such a great job.

[Colby Ekowitz]

You answered every question.

[Jack Armstrong]

You knew all the facts. Yay. And just the backstory again, in case you don't remember it, she was his 40 year old teacher when he was 15.

[Joe Getty]

We're back to Macron.

[Jack Armstrong]

Macron. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

She was a 40 year old teacher when he was 15 and they've been together ever since.

[Joe Getty]

Love. True love.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, apparently. Apparently it is.

[Joe Getty]

Although someday she's had enough of his looser act. She's giving him a C minus as a husband.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wonder if that's. Again, that's just part of their lifestyle. Happens a couple times a year. They, they, they love each other. That'll go on. Or if things have deteriorated and we're about to see a, I don't know, a split in the Maginot Line or something.

[Joe Getty]

What? No, and who cares? We're talking about France. Nice architecture. Some good food there, huh? That towel, that tower they got, what's that called? The Eiffel Tower. Very attractive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, to turn it slightly serious for a moment, the S might hit the fan with Russia, Ukraine and everybody who backs Ukraine and France will be right there at the lead of it. And they ain't that far away. So he's going to have some serious, serious decisions and politics he's dealing with in the coming days and weeks also.

[Joe Getty]

And they are. France is rotten in a lot of ways. It's interior structures of government and society are rotten, rotted out by socialism and ultra powerful unions and honestly being able to indulge those impulses because of the American security umbrella for the last 75 years.

[Jack Armstrong]

But if you and your and Germany and Britain are fighting Russia, maybe on your own, if the US backs out or whatever, you ain't got time for face shovings by your old wife.

[Joe Getty]

Well, true enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

So how old is he now? Like 50. So she's 75.

[Joe Getty]

No idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna find out. How old is Emmanuel McCrone?

[Joe Getty]

You can't stumble over your words. No, it doesn't work that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

So what I always tell my eyes.

[Joe Getty]

Like, spit it out, son.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not wasting my time with you.

[Jack Armstrong]

My watch said. What are you drunk?

[Joe Getty]

Mushmouth. Hey, how old is Emmanuel too?

[Jack Armstrong]

The time I got it right, he's 47. So she's 73.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's 25 years older.

[Joe Getty]

Is she?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. All right, she was 40, he was 15. All right, which is, you know, almost 50 and 75 is not the. But 40 and 15, you can get away with that in France, I guess. You would never, you could never get elected president in the United States hooking up with your 40 year old teacher as a 15 year old or vice versa. You couldn't be the first lady who hosts these, you know, white tie dinners and everything like that when you were sexing up your 15 year old boyfriend as a 40 year old.

[Joe Getty]

The term cradle robbery used to be thrown around with a grin and a wink. Yeah, it's a different culture.

[Jack Armstrong]

We will finish strong.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Next Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Goodbye.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we've talked about this a couple times today. We think it's a really big deal. It certainly could turn into the biggest of deals. But Trump blasts out at Russia yesterday at Putin hey, if it weren't for me, really, really bad things would have happened to you. Russia blasts back. The only bad thing I can think of is World War Three. Trump taking questions moments ago. First question was about Russia, Ukraine. I'm just wondering what he said.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Do you believe the Russians are being disrespectful when they say that your criticisms of Putin are simp an emotional response? And do you still believe that Putin actually wants to end the war?

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't tell you that, but I'll let you know in about two weeks. Within two weeks we're going to find out very soon. We're going to find out whether or not he's tapping us along or not. And if he is, we'll respond a little bit differently. But it'll take about a week and a half, two weeks. We have Mr. Witkoff is here who's doing a phenomenal job, is dealing with them very strongly right now.

[Joe Getty]

They, they seem to want to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Something, but until the document is signed, I can't tell you the document. Is he talking about the cease fire agreement?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I wondered what he. But two weeks, why two weeks?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

That wasn't the best first question. If you're going to ask a question about Russia, Ukraine, to me, I mean, it sounded to me like whoever that reporter was, they wanted to tee up the, you know, the personality battle. He says you're being emotional. How do you feel about it? As opposed to, you know, the brass tax of foreign diplomacy and war. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Like it's an episode of Big Brother, not a situation where hundreds of thousands of people are being killed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, two. I don't know why he put a two week deadline on it. I'll have to look.

[Joe Getty]

That's a very Trumpian semi leak of something going on behind the scenes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who's tapping who along? Okay.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, had you ever heard that expression?

[Jack Armstrong]

Never.

[Joe Getty]

Just tapping me along. No, never.

[Jack Armstrong]

Never in my life have I heard this curious tapping along. But it must be a queen's real estate sort of thing. You say Witkoff is working on an agreement in, in the. Okay. That is never, ever gonna happen.

[Joe Getty]

I'm working on reanimating a corpse. I'm gonna call him Joe and Stein's monster. Please. I'm going to reanimate a corpse before Steve Witkoff. Witkoff is going to settle the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[Jack Armstrong]

See, the problem with that is Putin wants to delay. He heard that and thought, oh, cool, another two weeks. All I got to do is come up with yet another dumb reason to delay for another two weeks as I just keep delaying and doing whatever the hell I want until I get home.

[Joe Getty]

The US is not fully, you know, backing Ukraine. Yeah, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the sanctions haven't happened.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. In fact, in two weeks or three or four or five, you'll come out and say. All right, all right, I see your point. You know what? All this killing. What was I thinking? I lost my mind. Let's figure out how we stop the killing. Then he strings it along for another month or two. Whatever it takes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sure we'll have more on this tomorrow. For those of you who were into the Tate brothers, Andrew and Tristan Tate, and I won't explain who they are, if you don't know. They've been charged with 21 counts of rape and many other crimes by the Brits. And that's going to be its own Diddy style trial over there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, if they can haul them in. Where are they? They're back in the US now.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're seen as right wing influencers, whether that's fair or not. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

They're not left wing.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're heroes to a lot of the right wing for some reason.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The young, angry, displaced, ideologically right wingy guys.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Which bothers me.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, bothers me too. It's too bad. These are times a great discontent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack, how much time we got?

[Joe Getty]

And that word is Discontent? Yes. About 20 seconds.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got 20 seconds. We had. We do a four hour show. We had three hours and 59 minutes worth of material and then we ran out. It happens. Tomorrow we'll try to show up with full. Four full hours.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, we're done. Final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show. Wouldn't that be lovely? How about Michelangelo leading the way? Michael in the control room? I hit it. Jack, you were talking about your son getting in a fight with another little kid of argument. Argument over politics. Well, I guess this is common. I had somebody text me and she said that another little boy had a cartoon cardboard pie chart about Social Security reform and he hit another little boy with the damn thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, exactly. Thoughts of Medicaid cuts were too deep.

[Joe Getty]

So I guess this is getting, you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know, be quite common.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. These are fever times. Katie Green is off this week. Jack, do you have a final thought for us?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it was my son moved up the next level in Boy Scouts last night. He was very proud of himself and he put In a lot of work. I couldn't be a bigger fan of that organization. I mean, I was in it as a kid. That's many, many years ago. Seen it up close now. Lot of parents really dedicating a lot of time and effort to it and it's just absolutely fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

My final thought is I was hoping to get into this, but didn't get a chance. San Francisco is doing some really, really good things about cleaning itself up.

[Jack Armstrong]

No doubt.

[Joe Getty]

The new leadership is absolutely kicking butt. And a lot of neighborhood organizations have come together and are advocating for, for themselves in their neighborhoods in a way that is very, very American. It's cool.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have seen it with my own eyes. I was there on all day on Saturday. It is starkly different than it was a year ago. I mean, it's starkly different.

[Joe Getty]

And, and the neighborhood folks who did not passively wait for the authorities to do something, they said, this is our city, this is our neighborhood. We're going to do something good for y' all.

[Jack Armstrong]

You get further down Mission street, it's the same old, same old, disgusting. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

We will see you tomorrow with all the latest. God bless America.

[Joe Getty]

The time for the clowns and the acrobats and the dancing bears has passed. What the American people need is a break.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Let's go.

[Joe Getty]

Brandon.

[Jack Armstrong]

I will not sugarcoat this. This is a disappointing day for us.

[Joe Getty]

Big mistake. But not too bad. The fun level in this room is at an 11 right now and that brought it down.

[Colby Ekowitz]

We apologize for our stupidity.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he's a damn idiot.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Go away.

[Joe Getty]

Get out of here.

[Jack Armstrong]

You, you hippie.

[Joe Getty]

Take your turtleneck in port on that high note.

[Colby Ekowitz]

Thank you all very much.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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