You'd Call Him Penis? I'd Think You'd Call Him Anus.

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand Episode: You'd Call Him Penis? I'd Think You'd Call Him Anus. Release Date: July 15, 2025

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Introduction

In this lively episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a range of current events and societal trends with their characteristic humor and insight. From political debates surrounding California’s governor to the quirky rise of Etsy witches, the duo covers it all. Below is a comprehensive summary of the key discussions, notable quotes, and the conclusions drawn during the episode.

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Political Commentary: Gavin Newsom and J.D. Vance

California's Governance and Economic Standing

The episode opens with a heated discussion about Vice President J.D. Vance’s recent family trip to Disneyland and Governor Gavin Newsom’s response. Jack Armstrong criticizes Newsom’s reaction on social media, highlighting the tension between the two political figures.

Jack Armstrong [03:42]: "Gavin Newsom visited Disneyland over the weekend with his family. Well, that's a good start, but I for one think he deserves even more punishment."

The conversation transitions into analyzing California’s status as a "donor state." Joe Getty challenges the notion that California is merely a beneficiary of federal funds, pointing out economic statistics.

Joe Getty [09:08]: "The most expensive state to retire in the entire country is California. Very few people receiving Social Security are retiring here."

Donor vs. Dependent States

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty explore the complexities behind donor and dependent states, scrutinizing the distribution of federal funds and economic contributions. They debate the validity of statistics and the factors influencing these classifications, such as state GDP and rural demographics.

Jack Armstrong [07:14]: "It has to do with the size of the state GDP. Is that a thing? And how rural it is, how poor it is..."

Gavin Newsom’s Political Future

The hosts assess Governor Newsom’s prospects for a presidential nomination, comparing him to past political figures and questioning his effectiveness on the national stage.

Jack Armstrong [13:03]: "He is a player who has only had inter squad scrimmages. He has never played another team because he is in a one-party state."

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Aviation Safety: The Air India Pilot Tragedy

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the tragic crash of an Air India flight, where the pilot's mental health comes under scrutiny. Jack Armstrong discusses the implications of mental health disclosures for commercial pilots.

Jack Armstrong [36:38]: "Medical records for the Air India pilot were reportedly turned over to investigators and the reports say he'd been suffering from depression..."

Regulatory Differences

The conversation highlights the stark differences between aviation regulations in India and the United States regarding mental health disclosures and pilot qualifications.

Joe Getty [38:10]: "I don't think you could disclose mental health issues and continue to be a commercial pilot in the United States."

Ethical Implications

Jack and Joe debate the ethics of allowing pilots with mental health issues to continue flying, emphasizing the potential risks to public safety.

Jack Armstrong [39:32]: "Why'd you decide to kill a whole bunch of innocent people, you scumbag?"

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The Rise of Etsy Witches: Modern-Day Spellcasting

Shifting gears, the hosts explore the burgeoning trend of purchasing spells and magical services on Etsy. They share anecdotes of individuals who turned to Etsy witches for personal gains, such as job offers and sports victories.

Joe Getty [48:08]: "There was a guy... he paid an Etsy witch $8.48 to cast a spell on the new ahead of Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Finals..."

Etsy’s Stance and Loopholes

Jack Armstrong points out the irony of Etsy’s policies, which ostensibly prohibit metaphysical services, yet these services flourish undeterred.

Jack Armstrong [24:57]: "Etsy's rules absolutely forbid metaphysical services... but they don't enforce it at all."

Psychological Insights

The discussion delves into why people are susceptible to such practices, touching on the human tendency to find patterns and the allure of easy solutions to complex problems.

Jack Armstrong [52:02]: "Virtually every quote... they don't even know there's a difference between correlation and causation."

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Escalation in US-Russia Relations: Trump’s Provocative Stance

One of the most intense segments tackles revelations about former President Donald Trump’s discussions with Ukrainian President Zelensky, reportedly urging strikes on Russian cities.

Joe Getty [31:32]: "Trump asked Zelensky, 'Can you hit Moscow? Can you hit St. Petersburg too?'"

Potential for Global Conflict

The hosts analyze the potential ramifications of such statements, including the risk of escalating into a broader conflict or even World War III.

Joe Getty [36:36]: "No, it's not inconceivable. It's going to get exciting fast."

Leakage and Political Strategy

Jack Armstrong speculates on the motivations behind the timing of these revelations, suggesting a coordinated leak to influence public perception.

Jack Armstrong [34:13]: "I think the change is leaking it... maybe it's a coordinated effort."

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Armstrong and Getty provide a blend of sharp political analysis, commentary on societal trends, and humorous banter. They tackle complex issues like state economics, aviation safety, the psychology behind modern spellcasting, and international relations with a critical eye, all while maintaining their trademark wit.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [13:03]: "He is a player who has only had inter squad scrimmages... He's not nearly as good as he seems to be."
• Joe Getty [38:10]: "I don't think you could disclose mental health issues and continue to be a commercial pilot in the United States."
• Jack Armstrong [24:57]: "Etsy's rules absolutely forbid metaphysical services... but they don't enforce it at all."
• Joe Getty [31:32]: "Trump asked Zelensky, 'Can you hit Moscow? Can you hit St. Petersburg too?'"

This episode offers a thorough exploration of pressing political issues, societal behaviors, and international tensions, making it a must-listen for those seeking informed and engaging commentary.

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Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now here's Armstro and get IT.

[Jack Armstrong]

Vice President J.D. vance visited Disneyland over the weekend with his family. Well, that's a good start, but I for one think he deserves even more punishment.

[Joe Getty]

So that's a knock on Disneyland twist.

[Jack Armstrong]

At the end there.

[Joe Getty]

So what was The Gavin Newsom, J.D. vance Disneyland story?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, the the Internet figured out that JD Vance had brought his wife and kids to Disneyland in beautiful California. And Gavi tweeted, hope you enjoy your family time. J.D. vance, the families you're tearing apart certainly won't. And J.D. blasted back, had a great time. Thanks. Oh, that's one of my favorite verbal comb jiu jitsu moves. Somebody blast you, then waits for your response. You just look at them and go back to what you were doing.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of the governor of California who was in South Carolina talking to voters last week for some reason I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know, that's like 2,800 miles away.

[Joe Getty]

From his state, continuing to try to build his national cred and cross into different voting groups. He was on the Sean Ryan podcast over the weekend.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't really know Sean Ryan's act.

[Joe Getty]

I know a couple of very trumpy people, though, who talk about Sean Ryan all the time. He's a big deal for that crowd. Maybe you know who he is. So Gavin was on there. And let's listen a little that what.

[Gavin Newsom]

Separates our game from the game played elsewhere is innovation, entrepreneurialism. More patents, more engineers, more researchers, more Nobel laureates in my state than any other Damn state. More Fortune 500 companies in my state than any other state. Look that up. Because I know people are rolling their eyes and saying, no, it's Texas. You're wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's true. I looked it up. Well, number one, it's the most populous state and number two, Silicon Valley's in California. And you've done your best to drive all businesses, including tech, out, but the fact that you haven't yet succeeded isn't exactly praiseworthy. You chump.

[Joe Getty]

Right you inherited all those things you just said and it has diminished since you've been in power.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you beat the hell out of it more.

[Gavin Newsom]

And we're by the way, a donor state. We provided $83.1 billion more than we received from the federal government. Texas took $71.1 billion. I'm not saying that to bash Texas, but you know what? Pretty proud of my goddamn state. 9 out of 10 of the donor states are Trump states. And I don't mean that pejoratively trump. Seven of the ten are Republican states, but nine out of the ten dependent states, welfare states, are Trump states. The donor states, disproportionately, the blue states. 71% of the country's GDP comes from blue counties. These same crack up counties with all these crazy liberals that can't get out of their own goddamn way and the world's come to an end.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Gavin Newsom]

It's 71% of the economy of the goddamn country, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Three times. Enough with the GD bumps. That's because they're enormously populous, you hack liar. Yeah, yeah. New York City has a bigger, bigger GDP than, you know, Decatur, Illinois. Yeah, I know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that one's pretty easily explained in that yeah, cities are blue and cities have a bigger GDP than rural areas. That doesn't really, I don't know, explain anything. Now the whole blue states, red states, donor states versus take more. I don't know the stats on that. Nothing is more misleading than statistics. If somebody could explain what's going on there, I would like to hear it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's, it has to do with the size of the state gdp. Is that a thing? And how rural, rural it is, how poor it is. Are there Indian reservations? It's just there. There are so many things that factor in. Plus, you know, everybody gets interstate highway money. Wyoming's got no humans and they get lots and lots of interstate highway money. For instance.

[Joe Getty]

So that was a pretty good little riff there to distract from the fact that good luck running on California's record when all people do is show videos of homeless encampments all over the state. And the fact that California is losing human beings for the first time in its history. Well now, don't get past those two things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't let the vagrants and drug addicts have all of the spotlight, Jack. Give some time to the people sweeping products off the shelves at stores and the products all being locked up and you have to beg somebody for a can of shaving cream because there's so much crime. Everything's locked up let's put that in the videos too.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. If you live somewhere where they don't have the Legos locked up at Target, probably seems crazy to you, but like everything's locked up at my Target. You have to get some employee with a key to come let you get your toothpaste because we allow so much crime here. It's nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

And maybe just as a kicker, a shot of soiled underpants in the aisle where the vagrant drug addicts have swapped out their dirty clothes for new ones they've stolen because there's no repercussion. Repercussion for shoplifting. Tax expert front of the Armstrong and Getty show also weighs in. I absolutely hate the donor state crap in quotes. If you have military bases, retired military, more Social Security recipients, you will quote, receive more federal funding. But it has nothing to do with governors except to the extent that they're driving old people and veterans to other states.

[Joe Getty]

I see. Okay, well, that's interesting. So as what? Perfect. This is perfect. So there was a article came out yesterday and I got it, but I got enough of it in my head. The most expensive state to retire in, in the entire country is, number one out of 50 is California. California is more expensive than anywhere else to retire to. So very few people who are going to be receiving Social Security are going to be retiring in California. Right. So that fits that your friend there stats. The least expensive state in the entire United States of America to retire to is Kansas. So they're going to receive, they're not going to receive near as much money. I mean, well, retirement retirees are going to go there and you're going to receive money as a red state, you know, so there you go. So that does explain that. That's pretty interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

And keep in mind, what percentage of the federal budget, I mean the overall budget is entitlements. It's most of it. So yeah, that's. That's where the weight is.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I'm glad somebody explained that. I knew there was going to be something behind that that made sense. And the GD bombs, remember we all caught on. There was a memo that went around to Democrats what it was it four, six months ago to cuss more to sound like you really care, Jeff Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that stuff, it makes you sound more earthy and authentic, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

And one more gabby clip.

[Gavin Newsom]

I know he's the president states. Forgive me, I didn't, you know, I. He calls me new scum, you know, come on, how do I explain that to my kid now he's got I have my kids friends calling my kids new scum.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. I'm sorry about your kids. They, I'm sure they're lovely little children and they have no role in politics. So we will never address anything to do with your family except your wife, who's on the take. As we discussed yesterday, there are a number of examples, some like up to a half a million dollars of if you want Gavi and the state to do what you want them to do, you donate a huge amount to his wife's quote unquote charity. So, bunch of examples we outlined in our four of yesterday's show. Grab It Vibe podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Joe Getty]

So a couple of my favorite right leaning, leaning pundits really like Gavin's chances for getting the nomination and think he's a force. And I can't tell if it's like they know more than I do or if it's because they don't live in California. And that often happens. If you're looking at it from the east coast, you don't quite have the same view as if you live in the state of California.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you think you got the outlines of it, but you don't.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And when the.

[Jack Armstrong]

I remember the coverage of Arnold, horrible Arnold Schwarzenegger's governorship, I would read stories in the major media, the Bigfoot press, Washington Post, New York Times, whatever, describing how it's a post partisan world and Arnold's an example of and, and how he's working with the Democrats. And I'm like, that's the last effing thing that's happening.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And I think, you know, as I already said, when the, when the full assault on Gavin from other Democrats, when he's trying to get the nomination of just homelessness and crime and people leaving the state and all that sort of stuff, I don't see how he overcomes that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. You know, you're right, because I was picturing Republicans running those devastating ads just run on your record, Gabby. Good luck. But the Gretchen Whitmers and Josh Shapiro's and Andy Bashi.

[Joe Getty]

No, they're not going to roll over and let Gavin be the nominee.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. No way.

[Joe Getty]

Although I saw that, that Bashir person, I saw him on Meet the Press the other day and he was highly unimpressive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's the whole year. You're a good enough triple A player, but man, the majors is a whole nother world. Well. What.

[Joe Getty]

Just as a political athlete, as some people say, how do you, what do you think Gavin is?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I, as I'VE made the point before and would be delighted to again. He is a player who has only had inter squad scrimmages. He has never played another team because he is in a one party state. He was anointed as the Great White Hope as a young man by his rich rich family in the Pelosi's they're all related. Willie Brown took him under his wing. He's never been in an actual game and his and so just as a political athlete, he's not nearly as good as he seems to be. It's Rick Perry syndrome. Rick Perry, terrific. Multi term governor of Texas. Very popular. You know, not perfect but good. Got on the national stage. He did not have nearly the chops and neither is Gavi. You heard it in those clips. He just. He has too many trail off sentences where he kind of.

[Joe Getty]

Well anyway, yeah, so Etsy's full of witches.

[Jack Armstrong]

You say if you need to hire a witch, look to Etsy Jack okay.

[Joe Getty]

I have no idea what this means. Among other things on the way, stare Armstrong and Getty.

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[Gavin Newsom]

I know he's the President of States. Forgive me, I didn't. You know, I. Yeah, he calls me new scum. You know, come on, how do I explain that to my kid? Now he's got. I have my kids. Friends calling my kids new scum.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, everybody gets a nickname in school. I couldn't resist one more kick at Gavin before we get to the witches of Etsy. Well.

[Joe Getty]

You call Trump Hitler. How do you. What is it you think his kids like being? Is their dad being called Hitler?

[Jack Armstrong]

Every kid in America named Enos is called Penis by his schoolmates. It just. It happens, Gabby. It's. It's unfortunate. I would agree, but your kids, like us, will be fine.

[Joe Getty]

You wouldn't call Enos Anus. I think you'd call him Anus.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

You'd call him Penis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. No. Neither. It was an example. I would never denigrate a youth like that.

[Joe Getty]

Excellent point. I've never known an Enos.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's true too. So, Alicia Finley, who's one of my favorite writers, she does opinions for the Wall Street Journal, among other things. She was talking about Gavin Newsom the other day during that big raid at the pot farm in Southern California. They rounded up 300 allegedly illegal immigrants, blah, blah, blah. And Gavi got up and tried to, you know, mount the high horse and make a speech and become the hero of the left, as he does every half an excuse he gets. And he made this Statement. Instead of supporting the businesses and workers that drive our economy and our way of life, Stephen Miller's tactics evoke chaos, fear and terror within our communities at every turn. Blah, blah, blah. Now, you may think Miller's a little excessive. I actually do. But Alicia writes, is he really claiming that pot farms are integral to California's economy and way of life? Mr. Trump has flown the deportation pass for farmers, hotels, other businesses. But why should pot farms get one? They profit from addicting vulnerable people, all while doing grave damage to public health and society. And the one part of this that I found really interesting is an updated statistic. Pot has been legalized in California, like more or less completely now for quite a while. Only 38% of cannabis consumed in California comes from licensed growers and retailers. Wow. 38%. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

So people are still willing to break the law and risk everything that comes with that because it's so expensive to buy the legal stuff?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, because of taxes and regulations. But the other half of it is law enforcement's been told, look, pot is not a priority. If you smell pot, if you see it being grown, what am I? Is a beat cop or, you know, even a mid level guy supposed to dig into the state paperwork to figure out if that's a legal or illegal grow? Well, yeah, half of it's legal, but they've exceeded their limit or blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

If somebody's smoking pot on the street corner, which I see in my town, how are you going to determine where they got it? Make them show her receipt or something?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. It's just, it's been de. Emphasized so much as law enforcement, you know, priority that there are horrific illegal grows. But it's just, it's just not the. Not the priority it used to be.

[Joe Getty]

So you're not going to get arrested? It's almost impossible to get arrested, so why would you buy the more expensive? And there was already the infrastructure so well in place for illegal potential.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I mean, the, the difference between buying pot pre legalization and post legalization in California is just where you go. I mean, in terms of risk, there hardly was any. Anyway, so onto this, which I found very amusing. This is my second act. This is my new hobby. I just need to get together with like a brilliant marketer. I'll handle the bs. They handled like the computer and logistics stuff. Witches on Etsy. I'm just gonna start with some of these accounts. And Jack, feel free to be you. Jan Pereira spent all spring looking for a retail job, but had no luck. So the college sophomore in Queens, did what many around her do when a situation doesn't go their way. She paid a witch on Etsy to cast a spell. The job market is terrible. I'm not getting any responses, so why not help myself out? She asks. And if it doesn't work out, then oh well. It was only $15. The day the Etsy witch cast the spell, she got a job offer from Whole Foods, and she's now a store shopper. Was it magic? Here's a guy, a creative director in Los Angeles. Uh, da da da. He paid an Etsy witch $8.48 to cast a spell on the new ahead of Game 5 of the Eastern Conference.

[Joe Getty]

Finals back in May. This is the dumbest one I've this is dumb.

[Jack Armstrong]

He found a witch offering discount codes. He was only half kidding about the transaction, but was amazed when the Knicks won. Maybe there's something more cosmic out there, he said, but he's a witch. Wow. He bought a second spell for a little over 21 from the Etsy witch for Game 6, but the Knicks lost.

[Joe Getty]

I like it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Doesn't rule out the possibility that Pacers fans use their devil magic, he half joked.

[Joe Getty]

I like the fact that the witches have coupons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Discount Witch is the name of my new jam band. What's interesting about this is Etsy's rules are absolutely forbid metaphysical services, including spell casting and items that advertise a metaphysical outcome.

[Joe Getty]

I don't like that. That should be you allow that if people want to be separated from their money because they're idiots, let them.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they don't enforce it at all.

[Joe Getty]

Well, they shouldn't. Wow, that is something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man. That's my next chapter. Etsy Witch Katie, I wish we had more time. I'd love to hear your comments. I truly would.

[Joe Getty]

Bargain Witch, Discount Witch Tired of playing full witch prices?

[Jack Armstrong]

Bogo Witch Buy one spell, get one free Joe the Witch Doing business. Here's my website.

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[Cindy Crawford]

The US is not going to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Providing these systems to Ukraine directly. Instead President Trump says that he is going to be selling these systems to.

[Cindy Crawford]

NATO allies and they are then going.

[Jack Armstrong]

To backfill themselves and then send the.

[Cindy Crawford]

Ones that they have to the Ukrainians.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, we have breaking news around the whole US supplying weapons to Ukraine. Trump's attitudes towards Russia. We were discussing that some last hour. Why are you giving him 50 days? Did you really not understand who Putin was etc. Etc. Financial Times first reporting this, now another news outlets have picked it up. Can you hit Moscow? Trump asked. Zelensky to strike deep inside Russia, according to a new report. What am I hearing here? Hello, that's my phone. Sorry about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Please silence your devices.

[Joe Getty]

I'm on a news site that has pop up ads.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

This is big, though. In a dramatic shift from his earlier hands off rhetoric, US President Donald Trump privately urged Ukrainian President Zelensky to set up strikes inside Russian territory, even asking him directly if Ukraine could hit Moscow and St. Petersburg if given the right weapons. I don't quite understand that question. They have the actual audio. This is from the July 4th call with Zelensky. If you were paying attention to that. Over 4th of July awakened. Trump talked to him on the phone right after he talked to Putin. So the key to this is he was on the phone with Putin for a long time, got off the phone, was the pone, got off the phone, was very unhappy with Putin. Told reporters the call was horrible. That seems to be like when he reached that final this guy's full of crap stage. He gets on the phone with Zelensky and says, and they have the quotes here.

[Jack Armstrong]

So somebody heard it.

[Joe Getty]

Vladimir, can you hit Moscow? Can you hit St. Petersburg too? Trump asked during the July 4 call, citing two people who heard the conversation. The provocative exchange followed a tense call between Trump and Putin, as I said, which the US President later described as bad. Now, it's possible this is leaking out on purpose the day after. In fact, it almost certainly is. It's leaking out on purpose the day after Trump announces. The pause, the weapons, the all the other stuff. This is part of the package. I'm thinking this behind the scenes conversation highlights a growing frustration within Trump with Moscow and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Trump was asked just a few minutes ago, does he trust Putin? And, and, and Trump said, I basically don't trust anyone. So that's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

According to two individuals. He still resists, though, just bluntly assessing Putin's, you know, worthiness as a negotiating partner. I guess I get that.

[Joe Getty]

According to the two individuals familiar with the call, Trump signaled a support, signaled support for Ukraine launching long range strikes, describing the approach as a way to make them feel the pain and force the Kremlin to negotiate. This is big. If it's true. I don't quite understand the question of could you hit Moscow? Well, I could if you give me weapons that reach that far.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, if you had the right weapons, could you? But that's what I just did.

[Joe Getty]

That's what I've been asking for, for three years. No, I'd be happy to hit Moscow. I'll do it today if you give me the right stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

And why am I hearing this 11 days after the fact?

[Joe Getty]

I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was it leaked by the Ukrainians?

[Joe Getty]

Two people? No. I could be wrong, but I think it's a coordinated. Yesterday's messaging, and this is part of a. Look, Vladimir, we're serious. Or maybe it came out today because of, you know, Lavrov's response to the 50 day pause where he said, yeah, 24 hours, 100 days, we've heard it all. Whatever. Maybe we leaked it on purpose for that. Okay, we're. We're talking about giving them weapons and hitting Moscow and St. Petersburg now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, right, like that I get now. Okay. All right, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's big stuff, though. You talk about a turnaround from. You don't have the cards. Why didn't you wear a suit to. Can you hit Moscow if I send you the right stuff?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Huh. At 50 days of holding our breath, I guess, and waiting to see what develops.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you don't have to hold to the 50 days. There are no rules where you can't just fire missiles into St. Petersburg unless.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, right. Yeah, but that. That might be part of what happens during the 50 days. Ratchet things up bit by bit. And I still maintain that. I think that's mostly time for India in particular and a few other countries to figure out where they're going to buy their oil instead of Russia, since they're going to be hit by gigantic secondary tariffs for trading with Russia if they continue.

[Joe Getty]

Well, Russia's trying to kill every Ukrainian, or at least as many as they need to, to take over the country. They hit the ground.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hundreds and hundreds of attacks recently have had no military value. They're just killing civilians.

[Joe Getty]

Just killing civilians. In fact, targeting civilians in apartments, hospitals, schools, people waiting at bus stops. Wherever they can find a crowd of people, they try to kill them. So from a justification standpoint, hell, yeah, you should hit Moscow or St. Petersburg or wherever you've got to. But if you were ever concerned about it starting World War 3, which I haven't really been, but this is certainly a step closer to that. If you start firing into Moscow, that's when you gotta wonder if Putin would use a tactical nuke just to send a message. The Biden administration was concerned about that, and they had some belief that Putin would.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not inconceivable.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's not. Absolutely not inconceivable. It's going to get exciting fast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy. That's one word for it. Let's see What? I've had a couple of transitions run through my head, but they seem very inappropriate. Next flight I take, can I like instead of choosing my seat or my meal, if you're flying first class or something, can I choose whether my pilot is mentally ill or not? Have you heard this? Medical records for the Air India pilot killed in last month's crash. That big Boeing Dreamliner that took off and just didn't rise and crashed into the medical school hostel, whatever it was. Medical records for the Air India pilot were reportedly turned over to investigators and the reports say he'd been suffering from depression and other mental health issues. Captain Samit Sar Sabar Wall, age 56, was the lead pilot. That he'd taken medical leave in recent years due to apparent mental health woes. Heard from several. This is a quote, a leading Indian aviation safety expert quote, I've heard from several Air India pilots who told me he had some depression, mental health issues. He'd taken time off from flying in the last three to four years. He'd taken medical leave for that.

[Joe Getty]

That's their rules. I don't know if that, that's our rule rules. I don't think you could disclose mental health issues and continue to be a commercial pilot in the United States.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't. No, you can't. But they, he must have been medically cleared by the Air India doctors. They must have given the clearance certificate, said this expert. But if you remember, we reported on this a few days ago, the jet engines fuel cutoff switches, right, had been flipped just three seconds after taking off. And the cockpit chatter included one of the pilots in the cockpit saying, hey, why did you flip those switches off? And the other guy saying, I didn't flip them off. And they were flipped back on again, supplying the fuel flow to the jet engines, but it was too late.

[Joe Getty]

That's a tough one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Suicide by pilot. Much like that vanished Malaysian air flight of not too many years ago.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think it's fair to call it suicide because you killed a whole bunch of people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, fair enough, but yeah, that was his motivation.

[Joe Getty]

Why'd you decide to kill a whole bunch of innocent people, you scumbag?

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't imagine for a second, you.

[Joe Getty]

Scumbag, you want to kill yourself as a grown up adult, you know, how about you don't. But you know, your choice, you don't get to take a whole bunch of people with you. There's no justifying that whatsoever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that is, that, that's actually insane.

[Joe Getty]

That's a heck of a thing if it's true that in the United States. So you're, you're depressed as a commercial pilot, but you got to keep it a secret because if you let anybody know, you'd lose your job. You know, I don't know. I can see both sides of that issue.

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[Joe Getty]

Can'T let go of this story. This is big. What a turnaround for Donald Trump. If he's actually seriously it would seem considering. Well, I mean we're practically a proxy if we're having the conversation and sending them the weapons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we have been for a long time together with the other NATO countries supplying them with intelligence.

[Joe Getty]

I mean this is really a next level though. The president's talking to them about striking Moscow. What do you need? What's it gonna take?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think the change isn't that the change is leaking it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, interesting. Well, in this administration maybe Biden was never talking about offensive weapons. Know that from a couple of different books that have been published.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is true do nothing Biden the mummy. Thank God he's out of office.

[Joe Getty]

Holy crap. Could this get interesting fast. And then you know, the whole. You think the base is not with him on Epstein is the base with him on providing offensive weapons that reach the capital of Russia. I don't know. That's not what you might. You might not have voted for that. In fact, I know several Trump voters who are hardcore Ukraine shouldn't get another dollar.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, they're going to be disappointed.

[Joe Getty]

Life comes at you fast. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to consult an Etsy witch.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's a good idea.

[Joe Getty]

I might do that too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cast a spell for understanding.

[Joe Getty]

I might do that today. I got a couple of spells I'd like to cast and if it's only like 15 bucks a throw, why not? Got a couple of people I wouldn't mind seeing get hit by a bus.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I don't think they'll do that.

[Joe Getty]

They won't do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sort of unethical. No, that's against which ethics.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bus hitting, etc.

[Joe Getty]

Didn't know that. You have thoughts on any of this? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY.

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[David Fromm]

Across the country, everyday Americans are standing up to expand freedom and opportunity not just for themselves, but for their neighbors and communities. They're small business owners, parents, farmers and local leaders, people who are pushing back against government overreach and showing what's possible when liberty is protected and individuals get involved. I'm David Fromm, host of the American Potential podcast where we bring these stories to life. We don't just talk about policy solutions. Each week we share the impact of how these solutions benefit everyday Americans. Because behind every issue is an individual, a family, or a community that's been impacted reminding us that policy becomes personal. So whether you're passionate about keeping more of your hard earned money, expanding school choice, or cutting red tape, you'll hear from the people making a difference as they share their stories. Listen now to American Potential on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Nudist Group in Pittsburgh over the weekend held its annual balls out bowling event where clothing is not allowed, much to the horror of Jimmy's 8th birthday party. By the way, whose idea was this? We need an idea for the next nudist event. How about a sport where you bend over in front of everyone?

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. That's what I was thinking. Your basic bowling form I don't want to see on your average human.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want to think about it, much less witness it over and over again. Good lord, people are nuts. Oh, speaking of nuts, Katie has further information on the witches of Etsy, which.

[Joe Getty]

You alerted us early in the hour is a thing. You can go on Etsy and find a witch who will cast a spell for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yes. Whether to find love or employment or whatever. Yes. I had no idea this was even a thing and so I looked it up and sure enough, Etsy is not doing a damn thing about this because there's pages of they shouldn't. They're getting a cut. Hey, for six six bucks you can get an obsession love spell. If you're ready to feel and experience a love spell that's so intense and unforgettable. Oh, that's the kind I'm looking for. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Well, do you have a problem with them doing this? I have zero problem with them being a conduit between fraudsters and dumb people.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't have any objection. No, I don't. I mean, I don't buy it, but if somebody else wants to go, sure, it. You got to decide. It's like you're going to be a winemaker though. What market do you want? Do you want to do $5 spells or do you want to be like Mariah spells has over 4,000 sales logged. 4.9 stars rating, by the way. Really good spells, high quality spells.

[Joe Getty]

People must be happy with the results.

[Jack Armstrong]

She sells lesser spells, but also sells a permanent protection spell for about $200. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, that's a good one because that one's not falsifiable. That's a perfect spell. Because if it's, you know, I Get this love interest and you don't get them, then the spell didn't work. But if it's just protection, as long as I'm still alive. Hey, you're doing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I'm looking at some of these people, Katie. And feel free to pipe in there. Just a little bit of vaguely metaphysical, you know, ethereal. Got a crystal over here in the background. You got some beads. You're wearing a weird neck and maybe a headdress of some sort. That's a appear. Appears to be all it takes.

[Joe Getty]

Beads are. Beads are big.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't forget the crystal ball.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, right. Like, what did you search on?

[Jack Armstrong]

I just typed in. I typed in witches on Etsy.

[Joe Getty]

And you got lots of results.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a bad luck spell for a whopping 2.47. You can't afford not to. I know.

[Joe Getty]

You have to try it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now here's the sort of service I demand. Emerald Bishop, a witch in Columbia, South Carolina, is averaging about 15 spells a week. She charges 35 to $250 for spells, does not offer refunds, although she will recast a spell if you get no movement within three months. Here's a woman calls herself a reformed skeptic of witchcraft after she bought a $25 Etsy spell that led to a boyfriend and a tax refund. I pray a good amount. I grew up Episcopalian, the New Yorker said. But it's definitely the witch. The timing is too suspect, man. You know, this makes me sad on a way. Well, it does, but they're not sad.

[Joe Getty]

No, they're happy, you know? Yeah. So they're buying happiness and Joe wants to deny them that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Joe wants to deny them happiness just because they're stupid people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Must be on the list. No, I want it both ways. I want the freedom to sell somebody a spell and I want to then mock everybody involved.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know how you do this. We've talked about this for years. We stepped. Did you ever do this when you did Radio Katie? We used to have psychics on back in the day, and we. We stopped doing it because it was just so clearly taking advantage of sad, lonely people. She couldn't enjoy it anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, so a couple of those quotes. Actually, virtually every quote in this article from somebody who went to a witch and was pleased is somebody who has no concept, zero concept of the difference between correlation and causation. They don't even know there is a difference. I bought a spell and I got a tax refund three months later. So, I mean, that's all you need to know. I mean, they don't even comprehend that. Wait a minute. There's a major logical flaw here. It's like the 100% of people who eat pickles die. So pickles obviously are a terrible idea. No, no. It relates directly to human beings need to identify patterns even when they don't exist. Which brings me to something I want to talk about next hour. That's right, we do yet another hour. Grab it via podcast. Subscribe to Armstrong. You get on demand wherever you get podcasts, but it's about the appeal of conspiracy theories. And a lot of it has to do with we as a beast are driven to find patterns so we can protect ourselves. Wait a minute. OG wandered into a pond in Florida. He was eaten by an alligator. Wandering into ponds in Florida is dangerous. You've established a pattern there, but kind of out of control. It leads to wild conspiracy theories. The science behind it. Really interesting. We'll do it next hour.

[Joe Getty]

So what percentage of people do you think are susceptible to an Etsy witch? Off the top of your head, would you guess? You think anybody? Katie would like. You think it's 1%, 8% teen? You think it's that high?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think so. When you go 20. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Really? You think a one out of five people might go for an Etsy witch?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Might be a little less, but wow.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I guarantee you It's. It's 10%. Really high confidence.

[Joe Getty]

All right. You know, if that's true, that explains a lot. Explains a lot, actually.

[Jack Armstrong]

Immigrants from various cultures that have high tolerance for this.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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