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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at.
Joe Getty
The George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
I spent events hosting gathering the scene.
Jack Armstrong
Evening to talk about how to respond.
Joe Getty
To the Epstein situation.
Jack Armstrong
Is he working on what? Is he hosting some kind of gathering of top advisors this evening to talk about how to respond to the Epstein situation?
Joe Getty
I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I could ask you that. I don't know of it but I think here's the man right here.
Joe Getty
I saw a report today and it's completely fake news. We're not meeting to talk about the Epstein situation and I think the reporter who reported it needs to get better sources on that. Look, the whole thing is a hoax.
Jack Armstrong
It's put out by the Democrats because.
Joe Getty
Had the most successful six months in.
Jack Armstrong
The history of our country and that's just a way of trying to divert attention to something that's total bull. Okay, so there you go. That's.
Joe Getty
I love the way Trump steers into bull ass. That's bull. I mean he like makes you wait for the be.
Jack Armstrong
It's something that's total bull.
Joe Getty
It's like you know, the guy from a Godfather movie.
Jack Armstrong
It's bull.
Joe Getty
Like the Sopranos would say, right?
Jack Armstrong
So I guess the supposed or maybe it never was Epstein dinner at J.D. vance's house with the attorney general and the FBI director never happened. What's going on out that I don't know. Yesterday we had some Epstein stuff from this woman Jessica Reed Krause who I don't know just came to through substack and it was some reporting on his house and the weirdness. Remember he had a Whole bunch of prosthetic eyeballs on the wall and just all kinds of weird stuff.
Joe Getty
Well, and he believed in art that made people like intensely uncomfortable.
Jack Armstrong
Right. So there's a new version of Jessica Reed Kraus article today with an interview with one of the victims. This is somebody that was a young girl who came into the orbit and kind of explaining the whole thing with Epstein. I thought this was pretty damned interesting. Epstein VICTIM exclusive. The bond was something like a Twisted Manson esque family. She'd call us her children and kiss us on the head saying good night. She was impressive, speaking four languages and flying helicopters. The other sub headline before I get into it is he treated orgasms like meals to be consumed three times a day. Attempting to normalize his actions. He brainwashed me into thinking my ideas were antiquated and I was the odd one. He was pretty convincing. He treated orgasms like meals as an odd, odd imagery.
Joe Getty
Yes, indeed, yes. Do you have to have to set the table or what?
Jack Armstrong
And this author, who I don't know. Editor's note before we get into some of the first person account is as we move through the many layers of the Epstein saga based on exclusive material I've gathered over the past three years, I'll continue to remind you that what follows might not align with your popular narrative. You may find yourself rethinking what you believed about certain people involved and. And I hope you'll approach it with an open mind when we get to the deeper examination of G Dog. That's what we call Ms. Maxwell because nobody knows how to pronounce her name. Especially when I revisit what I witnessed at her trial, much more will come into focus. So trying to put all the pieces together over the multiple Epstein cases and interviews and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, so this is from the one of the victims who said. I've turned down interviews with all major television outlets here and internationally, including NBC News, CBS this Morning, Netflix, BBC, Good Morning Britain, Sky News Australia. I've been stalked at my home and my job by creepy journalists, mostly the ones from the British tabloids. Mainly I haven't come out and told my whole story because one, I don't wish to be clumped in with the other victims of Jeffrey Epstein. And as I don't relate them to, I don't trust the media's biased interpretation. And three, I'm an introvert. So this person hadn't come forward before.
Joe Getty
Interesting that she doesn't want to be bunched or whatever she said with the other victims. But I'll Wait and. And listen to figure out why.
Jack Armstrong
Ghislaine approached me on my college campus about working for her at her home in Palm Beach. I was skeptical at first, but offered her advice on where to hang a job posting. She had another young woman with her. That, coupled with her British accent Americans love, was enough to make me feel un I could trust her when she asked me to jump in her Mercedes and come check out the house. On the way over, she told me she had homes all across the world and did not like to hire butlers in Florida because it was too stuffy. So she found college girls Instead, paying them $20 an hour to answer phones and run errands. It seemed like a dream job to me.
Joe Getty
Just, you know, I'm not to steal your thunder, but the ability of the groomer and the manipulator to exploit people's positive and negative emotions, it. It. It spans across different, you know, scams and exploitation, particularly young women. But, man, I. I can already see it taking shape.
Jack Armstrong
Going from making $50 a night waitressing to a hundred dollars an hour rubbing feet was the beginning of the grooming process. You'd have to pay me more than a hundred bucks to rub anyone's feet, really. Especially someone.
Joe Getty
Lovely feet. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
They worked in tandem. Him constantly trying to normalize his behavior and her making me feel like a friend, reminding me to always be grateful to Jeffrey and to thank him for his generosity. They were exceptional at painting their world as exciting and glamorous. Name dropping, all the big shots.
Joe Getty
Bruce Willis.
Jack Armstrong
Bruce Willis, Ashton Kutcher, Cate Blanchett, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey. And they had all the photos to prove it. This was the early 2000s, before social media, before celebrities were accessible as they are now. They made you want to be part of that world, but there was a trade off. Sometimes you had to do things you didn't really want to do.
Joe Getty
Interesting, though, that Maxwell's job was to be the affectionate, kind person who didn't ask much at all, certainly nothing objectionable, but then would testify as the good person, the motherly person, the helpful person, that what he's asking of you is just fine because he's a great guy and it's fine. Right. And if she. That's a. That's like good cop, perverse cop.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And if she's not, if. If G dog is nice and normal acting you, well, she puts up with it, so it must not be that bad, right? What was Epstein like? Mysterious, funny. He loved humor. He was a deep thinker. A voracious reader, mainly of science. I never saw him angry. He was serious. And he knew he had the power to ruin you. If he was ever upset with me, he used his assistance to live to deliver the message that was almost worse. I would say 90% of the time he was fun and enjoyable to be around. The other 10% just got worse with the abuse as the years went on and. And his manipulation made me believe I wanted it or consented. That's interesting. So if he's ever upset with you, he. Some send somebody else to Mr. Epstein's upset. I was in the circle for over five years. There were breaks for different reasons. I tried to distance myself, but he knew ways of getting me back in. And the first year, when one other girl was quitting as the main assistant, he wanted me to take her place. Tons of money, travel everywhere, no expenses. You just have to be okay with common vernacular for oral sex. It also would have required me to drop out of school. I told him, psychologically, I can't do it. I was still a virgin at the time. Wow. I was not comfortable with any of the sex stuff. I want sex to be with someone I love. Someone who I can trust. I told him. He was shocked to learn about my virginity. I was 21. It was years of grooming that got me to first lose my shirt, then my shorts, then everything else. It would have four years in when he stole my virginity. Wow. That's some patient grooming right there. Four years to get what the sicko wanted, what he took.
Joe Getty
Sure he had other victims to keep him company.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Joe Getty
It's like developing a baseball prospect from single A until they're ready to come to the majors. In a sick way, what he took.
Jack Armstrong
From me, my innocence and virginity and so much of my identity was irreplaceable. How he did it by making me feel like I could trust him and that I was special and that I owed it to him for being so generous with me. Man, you've heard that a million times with people end up in situations like this. They make you feel special.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And that's people who are lacking someone else to make them feel special. Often in that holiday.
Joe Getty
Of course. Yeah. And then accepting a tremendous amount of luxury and pleasure from them. Then getting the message you kind of owe me. What are you supposed to say? Well, you've only flown me to five international locations and showed me the most amazing time anybody could imagine. No, I don't owe you anything. That's very hard for somebody to say.
Jack Armstrong
I don't quite get this paragraph. I've read it several times. I still don't quite understand it. I've often imagined what I would say if I ran into him walking the streets of New York. Pre2019 do you get it now? For years you treated sex like it was a transactional, purely physical with no emotional or spiritual connections. But look at all these women with their lawsuits and their trauma. He treated orgasms like meals to be consumed three times a day. Uh, we read that part from the beginning and he was very convincing. I didn't even truly know what consent was. Rape was something that happened in back alleys. This was before hashtag me too. And this stuff was explained. It was actually when Harvey Weinstein was exposed that I could really look back and say, you know what? I never consented to any of this stuff. I was raped. Isn't that interesting?
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I don't agree with her exactly.
Jack Armstrong
In what way?
Joe Getty
To be manipulated into the giving of sex is different than rape. I mean it's by no means morally acceptable or good. But it's. It's a different. It's a different question.
Jack Armstrong
I get what you're saying.
Joe Getty
I mean it's. It's very much like the difference between being long conned out of my money and being robbed at gunpoint.
Jack Armstrong
About G Dog Maxwell. I liked her. She's funny. Her sense of humor was perverted, but she had a light and airy perspective on life. They were very free. Too many times I witnessed them strip naked and jump in the pool or ocean. She enjoyed having the girls around. The first time I met her, she was wearing workout clothes. And every time I saw her in Florida she was dressed very casually. I remember the day I saw her in New York. She had on a cream sweater, a pleated skirt and pointy boots. She sat me down, gave me a book and told me to always say thank you to Jeffrey. That's weird that comes up so often. What. So what is Maxwell's deal? Is she kind of under the sway of him also in a. Like a really subservient role?
Joe Getty
Yeah, and I think she got some sexual pleasure out of the whole lifestyle. In fact, that was the testimony in the trial.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, the Bond was something like a twisted Manson esque family. She'd call us her children and kiss us on the head saying good night to a 21 year old. She was impressive. Speaking four languages, flying helicopters. She once invited me over and cooked me dinner saying she had been to culinary school. But she was also complicated. I remember Mentioning my hero princess Die and calling her something. I don't quite get this. I remember mentioning my hero princess Die and ripping into her, calling her selfish and terrible. I told her I wish to get married one day and she told me to never get married because humans aren't meant to be monogamous. I genuinely respect and slash fear for her. I've read her deposition where they asked her if she and I had sexual relationship. She refused to answer. I. I can unequivocally say we did not. Well, that's kind of interesting because I've always wondered, you know, I don't quite get what was going on between G Dog and Epstein and the women. Was she participating in all this stuff or not or. I've never heard girls.
Joe Getty
Yeah. And women. Wow. That's interesting that she refused to answer that question. Ghislaine Maxwell Did G Dog care?
Jack Armstrong
I think care is a tough word to define. To truly care for someone, you wouldn't subject them to abuse. But then again, she didn't see it as abuse abuse. They both justified their behaviors because the generosity was so great. I don't think she truly cared, but I do think, I do think she liked me. I can only speak to my experience. That's interesting. In this interview she's still like wrestling with how much the people liked them and respected her and you know, that sort of thing. People these, these predators as we all know, have some sort of like sixth sense that the rest of us don't have to pick up on. People who need that validation self esteem boost.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And then, and then take advantage of it.
Joe Getty
Then they're master manipulators once they, you know, become aware that you're a suitable prey. Right.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, there's more on that later. I'll decide if I think it's worth your while. And we got other news to get to too. If you have any comment on any of that, text line 415295 KFTC Armstrong and Gettysburg.
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Joe Getty
That is a complaint that we've heard from a lot of.
Jack Armstrong
Survivors and victims in recent days and weeks is that they feel that they don't have a seat at the table in the conversations that are happening, whether that be here at the White House or Republicans on Capitol Hill in terms of what they are trying to do, do and achieve here with the release of the Epstein documents that we know lawmakers are seeking. That was about the supposed dinner meeting that was going to happen at J.D. vance's house last night, which I guess didn't occur talking about Epstein. And then family members of that poor woman that killed herself who was a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, were saying that about not having a seat at the table, et cetera, et cetera. And we just been reading from an interview transcript with one of the other victims that hadn't spoken out before. And I'm God, there's probably over his whole life. There might be thousands of people out there, right?
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's been alleged. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Certainly hundreds, by the way. So we refer to Maxwell as G Dog because we don't know how to pronounce her name. This particular victim said nobody could ever pronounce her name right. I've never heard a name butchered so badly. The worst I ever heard was gasoline. But so nobody could say your name Pretty bad.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Going on with the Interview about G Dogs and Jeffrey's relationship, which, like I said, I've never quite understood. When I first met them, I assumed them to be a couple. Not because I sensed any affection between them, but because it was clear by the photos in the houses. Two of them. The two of them were pictured all over the world, accompanied by powerful people. Her portraits were there. There were clearly his and her separate bathrooms. But I think in New York, she stayed in her own home most of the time. It was a lot to take in on that first trip. I wish I could go back and relive it with an iPhone so I'd have pictures. While on that first trip to New York, I was giving Jeffrey a massage when he turned over and okay, this gets a. I'll try to be cloud this. I won't use the worst terms, but this is not for the kids, obviously. I was given Jeffrey a massage when he turned over and told me to rub his nipples while he manipulated himself. I said, I'm not doing this, and walked out. We had a chat later. He was pretty cavalier, stating, I obviously wasn't comfortable with the sex stuff, but they're going to the island the next day, and if you want to come to the island, you need to be comfortable. I said, well, I want to come. There's not going to be like orgies, right? There were not. Once there, I still gave him a massage, probably in a bikini. I was on a hike in the Virgin Islands. That G Dog explained to me why the other girls were there. She and him must have discussed me and my hesitancy and made it clear to me that that's part of your job to give these kind of massages. It helps calm him down and that you have to do it. So it's part of the grooming process.
Joe Getty
It reminds me of various cults I've heard of too. Just all the techniques they use. That Nexium cult that had a great deal of sexual activity going on as well. Right.
Jack Armstrong
And she knew Virginia, the woman that killed herself not that long ago and at the time who had had a similar experience. Boy, it's interesting. So they would all talk to each other and kind of discuss how they have given into this lifestyle, but talk about the perks of it. As she says there, the travel in the world, Cash, sometimes, Katie, do you.
Joe Getty
Have something you're anxious to throw on or just the fact that he was able to pinpoint their vulnerability and go.
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After it is sick.
Joe Getty
The thing that strikes me about this so far is that while it is despicable unless somebody was less than 18 years of age. None of it is illegal.
Jack Armstrong
That's a good point.
Joe Getty
It's just immoral from my point of view, it's probably not from their point.
Jack Armstrong
Of view, terribly gross. But you're right. We haven't heard anything yet that was illegal that I've talked about in that interview. I don't think so.
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Joe Getty
A blockbuster deal between ESPN and the NFL ESPN revealing it's acquiring the NFL Network, including.
Jack Armstrong
The popular Red Zone channel. In exchange, the NFL receives a 10%.
Joe Getty
Equity stake in ESPN Disney CEO Bob Iger saying the deal will deliver an even more compelling experience for NFL fans.
Jack Armstrong
It all launches August 21st along with ESPN's new streaming service and the NFL basically starts today with the preseason there. You know, Thursday night football's a thing. So there are three games today, preseason games. Now most of the analysis I've read of this for the most popular television show in America is the games are going to be spread out over more channels than have been in the past and you'll have to be a more.
Joe Getty
Compelling experience according to the commissioner. The hell does that mean?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. But it's going to be harder to find your game, what channel it's on. Your favorite team will be on a different channel every week or who knows how that's all going to work. And then there's also the people have brought up the espn. Are they going to cover the NFL the way they have in years past? If you got a player who beat up his wife last night and, or got arrested driving 150 miles an hour in Vegas or whatever the story is, are they going to kind of, you know, soft pedal those stories?
Joe Getty
Now, Commissioner Raj gonna make a little phone call. Hey, let's, let's keep this one quiet for now. Let's, let's go easy on that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's almost impossible that that doesn't happen, isn't it?
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Wouldn't you at least owns the media? I mean they, they already kowtow a little bit. Yeah, of course that'll soften the coverage that sort of.
Jack Armstrong
I mean it's not the biggest problem we got in America, but how in the heck would you be the news director and think, oh, let's go top of every hour, let's do the player that beat up his wife last night. No, you're not.
Joe Getty
Right. Right. Interesting. Michael, are we ready? As, as metal guy tuned up his seven string guitar cuz California is crumbling.
Jack Armstrong
That's right. Metal people play seven string guitars. What do you do with that extra string?
Joe Getty
Shred.
Jack Armstrong
Stupid.
Joe Getty
What else are you going to do with it? Okay, yeah, I know, I know. Your alternate guitars with extra strings. I can barely master that. I haven't mastered the regular one. Anyway, a trio of stories all reported by the fabulous folks at the Calif. Globe about California crumbling and the first one's kind of revisiting. Do you remember we talked a few weeks ago about the behest thing that I'd never even heard of, but it's legal in certain circumstances for for instance, Gov Gav and some of the other officials, but mostly Gov Gav to strong arm quote unquote donations from various entities to his wife's charity or some other things. As we'll hear about. In return for. Well, no, not in return for anything. It's just because they're generous. And the next week, he does something incredibly important for the person who made the. The donation. You know, there's nothing to see. I laugh.
Jack Armstrong
Bribery laws are like prostitution laws. You just realize there's no way you can stop prostitution. So you just try not to have the most overt. Right there on the street corner in front of the school. Exchange of money for sex. But, you know, you can't really stop it. And bribery is that way, too. You don't want to have the most overt. Hey, I'll give you $100 if you vote. $100. I'll give you $100,000 if you vote this way. But, you know, you can't stop this sort of thing. A donation to his wife's charity.
Joe Getty
Right? Ask the Biden family anyway.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, no kidding.
Joe Getty
So here. Here's a few examples for you. Gov. Gav used his office to try to block a small tribe from opening a casino in Northern California after taking nearly $2 million from a different group of Indians, a major California political donor which operates its own gambling compound about 15 miles away from the proposed site. And they broke ground on a $1 billion expansion in 2023. So he took nearly $2 million. What charities did that go to? Known as behested payments. Not Governor. This is not the governor's first rodeo. He accepted more than $700,000 from two major law firms to. Do you remember this? Both create and defend his executive order to repeal death penalty rules and dismantle the death chamber at San Quentin. He got $700,000 from two major law firms. Governor Gav behested three and a half million dollars in 2018, the year he was elected governor. 2019, he reported behested payments of $12.1 million.
Jack Armstrong
That casino story should be a bigger story. I wonder if that will. If he runs for president and there's like, a serious race between him and Josh Shapiro or somebody, if some other Democrat digs that up, because that's. That one stinks, they'll hammer that.
Joe Getty
But wait, there's more. In 2020, during the COVID 19 pandemic and when the governor's emergency powers were greatly expanded, payments to various entities at Newsom's behest shot up to a whopping $226 million, according to data from the state's Fair Political Practices Commission. For instance, Fox News reported $45 million from Blue Shield to California and Kaiser Permanente for his housing initiatives. Those two health care giants just decided, yes, we will fund your pet project for you out of nowhere. And then the governor chose both Blue Shield and Kaiser Permanente to help manage vaccine distribution in California. Wow. Between 2018, 2019, UnitedHealth donated $220,000 to political committees controlled by Newsom, who later awarded $492 million in contracts to UnitedHealth subsidiaries in no bid and expedited situations. There's a lot more, but you get the point.
Jack Armstrong
What I'm hearing is a lot of coincidences with no evidence.
Joe Getty
So the Free beacon continues. In April 24, a few months before Newsom sent his letter to the Biden Interior Department about the Indian tribe thingy, the Democratic governor requested the Groton Rancheria contributed half a million dollars to his wife charity, his wife's charity, the California Partners project. And in April 25, one month before Newsom filed his lawsuit against the Trump administration, he again asked Groton Rinseria to contribute another half million dollars to his wife's charity.
Jack Armstrong
That having your wife have a charity is a good one. That's a good one right there.
Joe Getty
Well, and what a charity it is. Jennifer C. Seibel Newsom's California Partners Project, quote, champions gender equity across the state and ensures our state's media and technology industries are a force for good in lives of all children. And of course left gender bending madness advocate. And she also produces gender justice films and sells them to California's public schools.
Jack Armstrong
Well, even if it was something I agree with her charity. We all know how the whole nonprofit things work. Says we've explained many, many times it's a nonprofit, just part of your, you know, you're, you're running the place. What are you supposed to provide your own car to go to the various meetings? Now the charity provides a car and the hotel and the food and the flight and all the different things. So.
Joe Getty
But that's enough of that. How about some of this? Brian Jones and John Cabotek in the California Grow Globe writing, small businesses still paying for Sacramento's mistakes. Imagine someone breaking your windows handle, handing you the bill and calling it even. That's exactly what's happening to small businesses in California. While every other state that borrowed federal money to cover unemployment costs during the pandemic has paid off its debt. Every single one. California is still on the hook for more than $21 billion. And instead of fixing the problem, progressives in control of the legislature, forcing small business owners, the very people they shut down during the pandemic, to cover the Interest. It's not just unfair, it's outrageous. Remember over five years ago when Covid struck, the state ordered small businesses to close, in many cases with little warning, sometimes by force. Not giant corporations with deep pockets, Family run restaurants, hair salons, hardware stores, local gyms. The backbone of our community communities. One out of every three never reopened.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, that's brutal. I know. I had a friend who had a small business and he barely made it. He barely survived.
Joe Getty
Then as unemployment skyrocketed, California borrowed billions of dollars from the federal government to keep jobless benefits flowing. But thanks to a broken system, lack of oversight and sheer incompetence, the state lost control of the process, paying out over $30 billion in fraudulent claims. Money was stolen by scam artists, criminal syndicates, inmates, et cetera. Taxpayer money drained from the system at record speed. And to this day, almost no one has been held accountable. Few arrests, no serious effort to recruit to recover the money. And now, instead of going after the criminals or creating a responsible plan to pay off the debt, progressive lawmakers in Sacramento are sending the bill to small business owners through higher taxes. Higher taxes and fees for small businesses. I could get you into the details. It's very well reported and they will escalate year after year.
Jack Armstrong
This is one of the most depressing things you've ever done. And that is saying, that's what I do.
Joe Getty
That's what I do.
Jack Armstrong
You're afraid I was going to have a good day or what was your deal there exactly?
Joe Getty
I noticed you were kind of buoyant after the last segment, and I thought, this will not stand. And then finally this. Hector Barajas in the fabulous California Globe, which you ought to check on. They do a better job of covering California news than anybody I've seen. He writes, by any reasonable standard, if someone breaks in your home, they should be arrested. Someone moves onto your fire ravaged land and sets up camp, they should be removed. And if someone forges a lease or claims rights to your property without a shred of ownership, the law should be on your side. But in California and other parts of the country, that's not how it works. So this one guy, Luke Melchior of Melchior Construction, has been posting these videos showing the Southern California fire victims who lost everything in the wildfires now face a new nightmare. In Melchior's videos, you see trailers and makeshift shelters appearing on burned out. Lots of these people moved in without permission. And law enforcement told the residents, sorry, you got to pursue civil action. Meaning these families now face spending thousands of dollars and months after months after months to reclaim their land. So you're ordered that they were burnt off of.
Jack Armstrong
So there's a fire, you're ordered to leave, your house burns down, you finally go back and somebody else has set up a camper there and you can't get rid of them.
Joe Getty
In Joe Getty's America, you would tell him, you got 10 minutes to leave. Otherwise me and all my buddies are gonna whoop your ass. And if that makes me a bad person, I'm a bad person. Not in favor of that. But instead they get, I'm sorry, it's a civil matter. You gotta hire an attorney and start pursuing this through the courts.
Jack Armstrong
It's amazing anybody follows the law since you get screwed so often in situations like that.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that is again. This is one of the most depressing segments you've ever done.
Joe Getty
Oh, no, it's supposed to be angering. I'm sorry, I've got to check my bad vibes. Gun. Oh, I had it set on depressed, not anger. Sorry.
Jack Armstrong
No, they're. They're close friends. Yeah, you stay depressed long enough, you turn angry and vice versa. Right. Either way, you drink. The only way.
Joe Getty
People ought to be rioting in the streets.
Jack Armstrong
They should be. They honestly should be. We're not advocating rioting.
Joe Getty
Yeah, let me rephrase that. By all laws of God and man, people should be rioting in the. No, that one won't work either. How about in all of human history, this sort of abuse and theft spawned riots. True. Which we disapprove of here at the Armstrong and Getty show.
Jack Armstrong
That was.
Joe Getty
There we go. Issue that one. We will finish strong. Next scratch is why I oughta.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
That is a big cup you got there, Katie. Your big dumb cup. That is a giant one. Is that a 48 or 64?
Joe Getty
It's 48. And I drink like five of these a day.
Jack Armstrong
Good for you.
Joe Getty
So, water, huh?
Jack Armstrong
Vodka?
Joe Getty
Whiskey.
Jack Armstrong
So I posted a picture of myself in American Eagle jeans last night trying to do a joke, a Sydney Sweeney joke. I was laying on the floor doing the pose and the denim shirt and the jeans, and I had my son take a picture of it and he was really horrified by. He said, I'm not taking your Tinder profile pictures. I have no idea. He's 13. I haven't got the slightest idea why he's ever heard of Tinder, Knows what a profile picture is. I don't know such as the world of what teenagers talk to each other about, I guess, but. So somebody took that photo of me lying sexually on the floor and turned it into an AI video. Did you look at that, Joe?
Joe Getty
I did. It is disturbing, isn't it? And incredibly convincing.
Jack Armstrong
So I've seen a lot of AI videos we all have, and they're, you know, they weird you out, you know they're fake, but when you see one of yourself, something happens in your brain. I mean, it's like, I know I didn't do that and that's not me, but it looks just like me doing that. It's disturbing.
Joe Getty
Well, it is you. It's your picture manipulated. So if it ain't you, who is it? You know what I mean?
Jack Armstrong
Right? But, yeah, well, it's just the idea of somebody could have taken a picture of. Well, there's plenty of pictures of me that exist anywhere, you know, as a minor celebrity. They're all over the place. So somebody could take a picture and turn it into a video of me doing what? Kicking a dog or worse, you know, did anything. And then I got to deny that it's real. It'd be hard to deny it was real because the quality on that is pretty good.
Joe Getty
You know, you grimacing, it's, it's Jack attempting to rise from his pose as a would be sexy gene model.
Jack Armstrong
Somebody had made the joke that if I laid on the floor like her, I wouldn't be able to get up, right?
Joe Getty
And it's Jack rolling onto his side and trying to struggle to his feet and, and cursing and grimacing. But as you curse and grimace, you got kind of a Bruce Willis look going there. I could see you as kind of a cut rate action star, even in the gym lately, right?
Jack Armstrong
Cut rate, I'd say.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Well, this is your next chapter.
Joe Getty
The aging action starts. The Jason Statham, the Bruce Willis, God rest him with his health problems.
Jack Armstrong
You know, I, I'm, I'm telling you.
Joe Getty
You need an agent. I'll be your agent.
Jack Armstrong
I'm highly disturbed where, where AI is taking us. There's no doubt about that.
Joe Getty
Your roles are going to be humiliating. Just get used to that idea. But I think I can get your work.
Jack Armstrong
And it probably wasn't a pro that did that. It was just a listener who has one of the apps, right? You know you wanna happy, Andy. I'm Jack Armstrong and Jo Getty. Haunting echo there of Final Thoughts. That's where it really.
Joe Getty
Here's your back when you had to like produce your own song and not have a computer do it for you, right?
Jack Armstrong
Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Let's get final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is, pressing the buttons in the control room. Michelangelo, what's your final thought? Michael, after seeing that video, I've got to get better at the AI stuff. I know, chat GPT a little bit, but I've got to sit down, start and creating. I got to learn this stuff.
Jack Armstrong
It's fun. It takes a lot less skill than you'd think.
Joe Getty
It's disturbing and weird, but you're right. Yeah. Katie Greener, esteemed news woman, has a final thought.
Jack Armstrong
Katie, from another one of Jack's tweets.
Joe Getty
Yesterday, all the listeners looking at your.
Jack Armstrong
Grill are suggesting a GoFundMe to get.
Joe Getty
You a new grill or a small table for your spatula. Wow. Yeah, even like a twelve dollar little plastic thing. It's the Walmart or something. Jack, a final thought for us.
Jack Armstrong
I got the Nazi jeans, the white supremacist eugenic jeans, and I'm perfectly happy with them. And they're like $38. I didn't realize she did. In addition to the fact that she was pitching jeans, she's pitching pretty cheap jeans.
Joe Getty
Whatever. Reasonably priced, Thrifty. I like it. My final thought. We didn't really get to the story, but I tell you, I'm becoming just absolutely militant on this topic. Like so many others, the article is how letting your mind wander can reset your brain. How important it is to just think about nothing in particular for significant chunks of your life. Give your brain a break.
Jack Armstrong
Can we talk about that more in the One More Thing podcast?
Joe Getty
We could.
Jack Armstrong
That's interesting. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another group four hour workday.
Joe Getty
So many people. Thanks a little time. Go to armstrongygetty.com Got a lot of good hot links for you. Pick up some A and G swag, a nice T shirt, a hat, a hoodie. Helps to keep everybody on the payroll during these troubled times. And if you see something we ought to be talking about, send it along.
Jack Armstrong
Mailbagarmstrongetti.com Damn straight. See you tomorrow. God Bless America.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Spatula is the rim for bugs and.
Joe Getty
You don't need bugs in your cheeks. Thank you for that. No comedy anymore.
Jack Armstrong
Thank you for that. Come on.
Joe Getty
Bye bye Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
Ah, come on.
Joe Getty
Why is this taking so long?
Jack Armstrong
This thing is ancient.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Episode Summary
Title: You'd Have To Pay Me More Than $100 To Rub Anyone's Feet
Release Date: August 7, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Description: Dive into the latest discussions and investigative insights with Armstrong & Getty as they dissect controversial topics, societal issues, and current events with their signature blend of humor and critical analysis.
The episode kicks off with the familiar banter between hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. After skipping the initial commercials, the duo transitions into the main topics for the day.
A. Clarifying Recent Reports on Epstein (01:32 - 02:16)
B. Introducing Jessica Reed Krause's Reporting (02:34 - 06:52)
C. Analyzing the Victim's Testimony (07:12 - 10:57)
D. Differentiating Manipulation from Rape (10:57 - 11:33)
E. Discussing Ghislaine Maxwell's Role (11:33 - 14:10)
F. Addressing the Broader Epstein Network (14:08 - 21:21)
A. ESPN and NFL Network Deal (22:27 - 24:17)
B. Governor Gavin Newsom's Alleged Misuse of Funds (25:23 - 28:50)
C. Impact on Small Businesses (27:03 - 28:50)
A. The Rise of AI-Generated Content (36:15 - 37:00)
B. Ethical Implications and Personal Impact (37:02 - 39:32)
C. Final Thoughts on AI (40:03 - 41:34)
A. End-of-Episode Wrap-Up (41:28 - 43:34)
B. Advertisement Interjections (Throughout)
Media Skepticism: The hosts exhibit a strong distrust of mainstream media narratives, especially concerning high-profile cases like Epstein's.
Victim-Centric Reporting: There's a focus on giving voice to victims who feel marginalized or misrepresented by traditional media outlets.
Political Accountability: A significant portion of the episode scrutinizes political figures, highlighting alleged corruption and the ripple effects on ordinary citizens.
Technological Vigilance: The discussion on AI underscores the need for awareness and critical thinking in an era of rapidly advancing technology.
Balanced Tone: Despite tackling heavy and controversial subjects, Armstrong & Getty maintain a balance by interspersing humor and personal anecdotes, making the content engaging and relatable.
In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty navigate through the complex and often controversial topics surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's legacy, political corruption in California, and the ethical quandaries posed by AI technology. Their candid discussions aim to shed light on underreported issues, challenge prevailing narratives, and encourage listeners to think critically about the information presented to them. Balancing serious investigative content with moments of levity, Armstrong & Getty continue to engage their audience in meaningful and provocative conversations.
Note: All timestamps correspond to the provided transcript and are used to reference notable moments within the episode.