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Joe Getty
Broadcasting live from.
Jack Armstrong
The Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the.
Joe Getty
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. And now he live from studio C Senior. You made it to Wednesday. Are you excited?
Joe Getty
Huh?
Bobby Bones
Halfway to the finish line. We're Armstrong and Getty in a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of our entire compound. Pound and torming you for hours to come. And today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Jack Armstrong
Let's go with Sunny Williams and Butch Wilmore, the recently returned astronauts.
Bobby Bones
There is two of them.
Jack Armstrong
There indeed were two of them. There are two of them. There continue to be two of them, yes.
Bobby Bones
And they're the ones that I saw land in the ocean last night.
Jack Armstrong
That is correct.
Bobby Bones
Cool.
Jack Armstrong
Plucky. Plucky gal. Plucky guy. It's amazing what nine months in space do to you though. I mean, they, they are weak. Weak acts they ought to get to toughen up zero gravity, your muscles wither away and your bones get less dense and your eyeballs are prone to floating out of their sockets. I made that last part up. But it's. It's rough on a human being. Which brings to mind Jack the, the illumined question. How the hell can we get somebody to Mars and have them be anything other than just a glob of jelly? Isometric exercises. That's what I say.
Bobby Bones
Well, I was listening to an old astronaut who, who said you recover pretty quickly, so. But yeah, I heard Elon. We got some clips that Elon, they did an interview last night talking about going to Mars. That's gonna be quite the deal. I hope I live long enough to do it. He said 20 to 30. To 20 to 30 years before. There's like a space station there. I don't know when he's expecting to actually have a human being just go there. I don't think there's any plan to come back. Right, right.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. A space station manned by humans there, right?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That's the whole point.
Jack Armstrong
They can do so much with robotics these days.
Bobby Bones
No, Elon. Well, that wouldn't do us any good. Elon's entire point is that we need to be the first species probably in the universe to be multi planetary. He, he believes if there has ever been other intelligent life, it's because it died out because it was on one planet. Eventually a planet dies out for a number of reasons or destroys itself or whatever. You need to be multi planetary to continue as a species. And the only way to do that is to get to Mars and have people there also.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's, you know, this is why you're not in charge of the program. To dismiss my ideas that wouldn't do any good is ridiculous. The robots would get there and build the facilities that were needed. Well, so the humans could move in. It's like a move in ready condo on Mars. The robots would put up the wallpaper and paint and rearrange the furniture a couple times till they're happy with it.
Bobby Bones
I know I'm not going to live long enough for this. This is the part I would really like to see is you get enough people up there that you start to have a society that then has exactly the same problems we've had here on Earth. And then maybe everybody finally realizes once and for all it's just freaking human nature.
Jack Armstrong
Wait, what? I'm making a Macaulay Culkin face.
Bobby Bones
There wasn't a trump on Mars that caused people to act this way or something else, right?
Jack Armstrong
That would be something, wouldn't it? If that just bought us like an extra year and a half after Earth destroys itself. The people on Mars are doing exactly the same thing.
Bobby Bones
But you're going to have the first crime on Earth first or on, on Mars. The first time somebody, you know, comes back in and they're, I don't know, their gyroscope is missing and Fred stole it. First crime, first murder, first you know, out of wedlock, baby, whatever.
Jack Armstrong
Sure, somebody gets a little drunk on space rum and takes a swing at somebody else. Yeah, right.
Bobby Bones
You'll have to have a space jail. And I don't, I don't know if people understand that that's happening. And you know, speaking to that clearly, politics or space has been politicized now in the way that everything else is politicized. The coverage of yesterday's return of the astronauts depended what channel you were watching. They either mentioned Elon Musk, Space X and, and all that endlessly, or they mentioned it not at all, depending on the challenge. The channel you're watching because space has become politicized just like everything else.
Jack Armstrong
I was actually mildly Surprised to see ABC News in a bit of detail go over the whole. Boeing swung and missed and SpaceX succeeded.
Bobby Bones
I was listening to NPR today and unless I missed it, there was nary a mention of SpaceX's role in the whole thing. La NASA, NASA, NASA, NASA. Just lots of NASA government program did this, government program did that.
Jack Armstrong
NPR is a funny, funny joke.
Bobby Bones
And although they did have a good interview with an astronaut talking about. I'd never heard anybody. I've heard astronauts since I was a little kid. Joe and I grew up in the golden age of space exploration when we were going to the moon and whatnot.
Jack Armstrong
And I would always heard about an uncle. Neil Armstrong holds a fairly prominent place in the history.
Bobby Bones
And now I've forgotten the word. The word applies to my son because it's a problem he had as a little kid. The human body needs pressure against it, particularly to the bottoms of your feet and your hands to help oriented in the world or your brain gets all out of whack. And that's the big problem. It's not the muscles atrophying, it's that you have none of that feedback on any of your body for a length of time and it makes your brain go crazy. And that's the biggest adjustment that astronauts have to make. And I'd never heard that before but it makes perfect sense and it's really awful. Like an awful, awful feeling. I'd always only heard about it described as muscle atrophying and that's why they're that way and all wobbly. No, no, no, no. It's the, they've had no feedback on their body through their, the normal spaces of walking around and pushing off of things and, and their brain is out of whack.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Bobby Bones
And it takes a while for that to come back into whack.
Jack Armstrong
I heard Brett Bear was talking to. Who's the senator from Arizona whose brother was. Yeah, the, the Kelly brother who is an astronaut was talking about coming back from a rather extended space mission and he was talking about having hives, having painful skin space hives because something to do with. Without the pressure. His skin changed and then when the pressure came back again it was extremely sensitive and he had. If you've never had hives, it's, it's, it's like torture.
Bobby Bones
The astronaut I heard interviewed said he's 511 but when he came back he was 61 then only lasted a couple of days and he went back to 511. That's how much he stretched out. When you're not squished down by gravity all the time. I wonder how tall I am. I'm probably 7ft tall.
Jack Armstrong
When will we fight back against our oppressor? Gravity, Right?
Bobby Bones
I didn't know gravity.
Jack Armstrong
Who, who voted for that? Who passed it? It's the dictatorship of gravity. That's what I say. Who's with me?
Bobby Bones
Yes, Katie.
Ashley Iaconetti
Well, you guys remember that documentary that Arnold was in, the Total Recall and Space Mutations?
Jack Armstrong
Sure. Yes.
Ashley Iaconetti
Oh, yes, another thing to worry about.
Jack Armstrong
We learned a great deal from that. Yes, yes. Well, and speaking up for the women folk in space, you don't have to worry about, you know, support garments or anything, you know, your boobs. Yes. It's just so great. Everything just stays like you're 19 year old college freshman for, you know, permanently.
Bobby Bones
Awesome. I like all of this. Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this is. How did it already get to be Wednesday, March 19, year 2025? We're Armstrong and Getty and we approve of this program.
Jack Armstrong
How many women would willingly be sent to space for two months a year if it preserved to a large extent, their late teens, early 20s body for an extra decade?
Bobby Bones
I don't know.
Ashley Iaconetti
Every single one of us.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, boy. All right, let's begin the show officially. Now, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go. We've got a lot to get to.
Joe Getty
At Mark, brace for splashdown.
Jack Armstrong
And splashdown.
Joe Getty
Crew 9 back on Earth. Nick, Alex, Butch, Sunny, on behalf of SpaceX, welcome home.
Jack Armstrong
That splashdown, it's, I wouldn't call it violent exactly, but it's like one step short of violent. When you actually hit the water, I noticed they hit it at an angle, so the flat part of the craft doesn't contact the water. It, it kind of noses in like a wedge, which I'm sure is part of the design, but I wonder how jostling that is.
Bobby Bones
So we'll play the clip a little bit later. But Elon, in an interview last night said they offered the Biden administration to go up there and get those astronauts and the Biden administration wouldn't deal with them out of politics. Elon says because of politics, Biden didn't let their technology go get these astronauts. That's why it happened right after Trump became president. Now the Biden administration is saying that's not true. The timing is a little suspicious. The fact that it didn't happen during Biden and Trump's president and it happens pretty quickly. So.
Jack Armstrong
Well, the Biden administration told us old Joe was doing Great. In fact, he was better than ever and was fit to go for another term.
Bobby Bones
Well, the evidence I only need is I've said this a hundred times, is just you talk about climate change, you talk about all the electric cars in America and never mention Tesla. That's all I need to know. You don't mention the number one by far electric car company because of politics.
Jack Armstrong
Even though it's an existential threat to the extent that you've terrified generations of children over it. And yet the leading electric car company in the country, let's pretend it doesn't exist.
Bobby Bones
And that was not Elon is with Trump at that time. That was all Tesla doesn't have the United Auto Workers union that GM and Ford and everybody has. But now, of course, Elon is Hitler. We got Katie's headlines on the way. We got some mailbag. We got some other news. We got we know something about the Trump Putin call from yesterday. Putin's asking for a lot, as I think was predicted. What we give him, I don't know. Israel as we speak is bombing Gaza.
Jack Armstrong
They've broken the ceasefire, Jack, according to the New York Times.
Bobby Bones
Right. I just heard that on NPR. NPR's which is running all these promos, you know, they're always begging for money even though we're supporting them through taxpayer money, among other things. NPR runs all these promos about how preserve, what do they call it? Not real information, but something like that.
Jack Armstrong
Objective journalism.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. With the idea that we're the only thing standing between you and just nothing but spun misinformation.
Jack Armstrong
We're the real deal, partisan objective journalism. You have to help us preserve it.
Bobby Bones
Do they believe that?
Jack Armstrong
Do they think a lot of them do?
Bobby Bones
I think they do. I know lots of NPR listeners that believe that's the only news source you can count on to be objective. I would love to sit down with them and go through a newscast and point out where they're not objective.
Jack Armstrong
Well, you form your your view of what's moderate or what's objective or not based on your observations. And if you're bubbled then you will think, yeah, okay, super far left is moderate.
Bobby Bones
Got a lot on the way. And our text line is 415295KFTC.
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I don't know if I'm stealing one of your headlines by teasing this, but Attorney General Pam Bondi announced yesterday that they're going to pursue punishments as high as they can against people who are attacking Tesla dealerships because it's political violence, if you will, and we can't tolerate that in America, but have some of the reactions around that that are pretty darned interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well, I agree with her completely. It's reminiscent of the early 70s when there are hundreds of bombings a year on private property generally, or government buildings. And it was clearly political terrorism. Go get them, scumbags. All right, we've got a lot to get to today. As previously mentioned, it's Trump versus the courts. John Roberts chastises the President very gently. The big Putin Trump call. Gotta get to that and much more. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's lead stories. Katie Green.
Ashley Iaconetti
Katie, this was so cool. Starting with the Guardian Dolphins welcome NASA astronauts stuck in space back to earth.
Bobby Bones
I saw that.
Ashley Iaconetti
That was awesome. From the Washington Post. Netanyahu says Israeli strikes that killed hundreds in Gaza are, quote, just the beginning.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, probably, sure.
Ashley Iaconetti
USA Today after Trump Putin call Russia agrees to limited Ukraine cease fire.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, their main point that Putin had is you need to stop you. The United States needs to stop arming Ukraine. Ukraine. So that's a heck of a thing. You start a fight with me and tell me you stop punching me and I'll stop punching you. But you started it, right?
Jack Armstrong
And it's a limited conditional ceasefire for a limited time that will be broken immediately. And he has gigantic demands to do Anything significant.
Ashley Iaconetti
From Breitbart.com Trump administration ends translation services for immigration agency after declaring English the official U.S. language.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, I don't know how they use the translators. I mean, you got some Chinese national coming across the border, you can yell at them in English as much as you want, but yeah, I need to.
Ashley Iaconetti
Know more from the Daily Mail. Musk hating hackers release names and addresses of every Tesla owner in the United States with a chilling symbol. The cursor turned into a Molotov cocktail.
Bobby Bones
That's kind of interesting. I mean, I can drive down the street in the Tesla. It's not like I'm hiding it.
Jack Armstrong
So. Yeah, but the address. Who knows what these monsters will do.
Ashley Iaconetti
From the New York Times.
Jack Armstrong
I don't like these times. I do not like these times. I need a time machine. Or I don't know, just go out into the woods and watch the girls. Cavorters have threatened for years.
Ashley Iaconetti
From the New York Times, Oil and gas executives to visit the White House to discuss tariffs and regulation.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, where this ends, nobody knows. Really. It's madness.
Ashley Iaconetti
From ABC. Last decade was Earth's hottest ever as CO2 levels reach an 800,000 year high.
Bobby Bones
So I don't know if that's a big deal or not, but I mentioned the other day that in my home state of Kansas they had a dust storm. Maybe you saw it in the news. It caused a 50 car pile up with semis and everything like that because of dust, which never happened when I lived there. My brother sent me this text from western Kansas. We've got a full blown blizzard today that closed the interstate. It was 84 degrees yesterday.
Jack Armstrong
Whoa.
Bobby Bones
That's some weird weather.
Jack Armstrong
Holy cats. And who. Who was the source of that highest CO2 in 800000 years.
Ashley Iaconetti
That's ABC News.
Jack Armstrong
Okay. All right. Or not, right? Or you know what? I'm gonna sell my park and buy some shorts.
Bobby Bones
Exactly.
Jack Armstrong
How to hold on to my parka and my shorts, according to your brother's experience. Keep them handy.
Bobby Bones
You might need them this afternoon. Both of them.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Ashley Iaconetti
From Yahoo. News, Kanye west new album drop overshadowed by yet another social media meltdown.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I didn't know he had a new album come out. I'll have to check that out today on the drive home.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. There is controversy over the new album, Jack. As you might expect, it's not hinged.
Bobby Bones
Does it have anything to do with the fact that he's completely nuts and.
Jack Armstrong
His self proclaimed himself a Nazi? Yes.
Bobby Bones
I didn't hear that.
Ashley Iaconetti
His Twitter yesterday. And it's still. It's still up right now.
Bobby Bones
I gotta check it out.
Ashley Iaconetti
Like a couple hundred all caps. Just nonsense.
Bobby Bones
Poor guy.
Ashley Iaconetti
I know.
Jack Armstrong
He really needs a conservator like Britney Spears.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, I think that. I think Kim Kardashian tried to be that.
Ashley Iaconetti
And finally, the Babylon B. CIA files reveal JFK was killed by seed oils.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Bobby Bones
That's pretty good.
Jack Armstrong
They are so good.
Bobby Bones
So good.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Have you dug into that at all, Jack?
Bobby Bones
Not a bit. I saw a tease on the Fox News last night and then they never got around to it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I've got a fair amount of information on this. I'm gonna stay tuned. The Big Takeaway.
Bobby Bones
Oh yes, Joe with the big takeaway on the JFK assassination files coming up. Oh, I can't wait.
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Jack Armstrong
To return the astronauts earlier. That's. There's no question about that. The astronauts were only supposed to be there for for eight days and they've been there for almost 10 months. So obviously that doesn't make any sense. SpaceX could have brought the astronauts back after a few months at most. And we made that offer to the Biden administration. It was rejected for political reasons and that's just a fact.
Bobby Bones
White House. The Biden White House says that's not true. Elon says it is. Maybe that'll get hashed out in the media today. If that is true. That's a heck of a thing.
Jack Armstrong
Those astronauts ought to sue old MAN Biden or Dr. Jill, fake doctor or somebody. I mean, being stuck up. Although they are astronauts and seem to be like at least okay with it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you loved it.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah. I mean like I was supposed to go play Augusta national for an afternoon and I got stuck there and had to stay for nine months. I mean, sorry, honey. I miss you.
Bobby Bones
You know, your honeymoon. Something happened in your honeymoon. Had to last three weeks instead of one week.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Be angry about that.
Jack Armstrong
I had to.
Bobby Bones
Word.
Jack Armstrong
Miss work. Damn it. Right, I get it. So the Trump administration yesterday released more than 30,000 pages of previously classified or censored documents relating to the death of former President JFK John F. Kennedy that some would, had, hoped would provide answers to decades old questions about the assassination. Trump said last year on the campaign trail he would disclose those documents if elected. And on Monday he said Most of the 80,000 remaining pages would be released in full. I don't know why they're just going over them now for national security sources and methods and that sort of thing reasons. But that'll become a little more clear, I think, as we talk about this.
Bobby Bones
Well, yeah, and yesterday we talked about what a Small percentage of the total pages on the JFK investigation. This is. Yeah, most of them have been released. But you got to wonder, why did they hold these back? You know, makes me interested.
Jack Armstrong
Right, absolutely. And I think though the answer might not be as like, direct and, and wow, ish as some people. Hope it's going to be interesting for sure. It already is to me. Now I will tell you this, having released 30,000 pages like a day ago, that's a heck of a lot to go through. And depending on who you look at, they have different accounts of what's the most interesting part. I'm just going to hit you with a couple of things that I found really interesting. Now the New York Post is, is there won't have gone with the most jazzy sexy stuff. Whether it's the most significant or not is in the eye of the beholder. But some of the interesting snippets being poured over quoting now include documents shedding theories, eyeing a small clique in the CIA being involved, as well as an apparent KGB investigation to find out if Sass and Lee RV Oswald was one of its agents.
Bobby Bones
God dang it. I've read tons on this in my lifetime. It is amazing. Lee Harvey Oswald's connection to the Soviet Union at various points of life and then no tying, you know, them to the assassination. I mean, that is one hell of a coincidence.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. And we'll get to that if we have time because there are a lot of different levels of relationships you can have, especially with intelligence services. But this is interesting. A memo dated June 67 details how a former U.S. army intelligence officer, Gary Underhill, fled D.C. washington, D.C. very agitated. That's a quote. The day after Kennedy was shot and spoke with a friend about how a, quote, small clique within the CIA was behind the assassination. Six months before he was found dead in his apartment. Uh, he was very agitated. A small clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided. And he was afraid for his life and probably would have to leave the country. The memo reads. Less than six months later, Underhill was found dead, shot to death in his Washington apartment. The coroner ruled it a suicide.
Bobby Bones
That's pretty damned interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Underhill, former U.S. army captain who worked as an intelligence officer during World War II, was said to be on, quote, a first name basis with many of the top brass in the Pentagon and on intimate terms with a number of high ranking CIA officials. The friends whom Underhill visited say he was sober but badly shook. They say he attributed the Kennedy murder to a CIA Clique which was carrying on a lucrative racket in gun running, narcotics and other contraband. And the clique allegedly killed Kennedy because he caught wind of their business and was killed before he could blow the soul.
Bobby Bones
That's why the Kennedy assassination is always made for such great movies or speculation or books, whatever. I mean all the pieces are there for just all kinds of different theories. Lee Harvey Oswald, in case you're. Whatever. He's not somebody who ever spent much time looking. He freaking lived in the Soviet Union for a while. He moved there and lived there for a while. And met with Soviet agents, Right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. And sought asylum there on multiple occasions. And Cuba again. One more note on Mr. Underhill. His suicide was called into question since he was found with a gunshot wound behind his left ear. But his writing partner who found his body said he was right handed. So very, very odd he would use his left hand to kill himself. A classic, you know, TV detective. Ish. Wait a minute now. Right, uh, let's see. In the. Another document, teletyped US intelligence report from November of 91 said a KGB official named Nikonov investigated whether Oswald had been a KGB agent. Nikonov is now confident that Oswald was at no time an agent controlled by the kgb. The document says the film the file rather also noted that KGB was watching him closely and constantly while he was in the ussr and also noted Oswald was a poor shot when he tried target firing in the ussr. Also had a stormy relationship with his Soviet wife who rode him incessantly. That's from a KGB file.
Bobby Bones
Hey, hey, hey. You don't need to put that in my file.
Jack Armstrong
That's embarrassing. Yeah, yeah, or the FSB file at the time. So that's, that's pretty interesting. I wanted to get to putting aside, just for the moment some of the jazzier stuff. I'm looking at the Wall Street Journal's account of the thousands of pages their people poured through.
Bobby Bones
Let's see, it was Sinatra angry that JFK had vetted his girlfriend Marilyn Monroe.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Some of the documents have faded typewritten text and handwritten notes. Others contain faint classified secret markings. The documents appear to address a range of topics from a trip Oswald took to Fin a to a $210 rent reminder for a CIA safe house in Maryland to the financing of covert operations. Let's see, they actually refer to Mr. Nosenko again, the former KGB guy. The CIA arranged for two Washington Post reporters to interview him about his knowledge of Oswald when he lived in the Soviet Union. They also reimbursed him for his expenses, that sort of thing.
Bobby Bones
Obviously the most explosive thing would be if the CIA took out a president of the United States. Because even if we could nail down that it was the Soviet Union at this point, I mean that's interesting. But that that entity no longer exists. They were an enemy the United States. It's not shocking be a heck of a thing, but.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Bobby Bones
But if it turned out to be our own government, you know, the CIA, where now that would be just, you know, oh my God, heads explode. What do you do with this?
Jack Armstrong
Blah, blah, devastating earth shaking. It would change laws and, and, and the structure of government and all sorts.
Bobby Bones
I can tell you what Bobby thought when it happened because it's in the LBJ books written by Caro. He thought that the mob finally got to them because Bobby Kennedy as attorney general had been at war with organized crime, death threats. His constantly. He thought it was his first thoughts was the mob finally pulled it off.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and a lot of the conspiracy theories, quote, unquote, have to do with the nexus between the CIA and the mob. And hey, look, we're both in on this. You got guys, we got guys. Anyway, one of the more interesting takeaways for me, and it's not really sexy exactly, but I'll just read you this and then make the point. Documents released Tuesday help explain why some of the materials have remained secret for decades. CIA operations that could be exposed span dozens of countries from Japan to Zaire, requiring officials to assess the damage that disclosure would bring to spy programs in each nation. Quote, public acknowledgment of a station in India would be a problem. US and India foreign relations are always delicate. The Indian government is very sensitive to perceived slights, one official wrote in 1995. Disclosure of CIA operations in Berlin, on the other hand, would cause, quote, no specific damage, the official wrote.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, but that's, that's what we said yesterday. Systems and methods. I mean, where, where do we get our information? That sort of stuff, you can't be giving that away, Right?
Jack Armstrong
Exactly. There's a little more. And then again, there's a point to be made. The documents, many of them fully redacted, provide a rare window in the overlap between covert action and statecraft. One CIA document from 1960 recounts how Mexico's president, who had spoken publicly against American intervention in Cuba, praised American plans to oust Castro. Lopez Mateos, that's the president, asked the CIA's local station to convey to President Eisenhower that he is, quote, delighted that a decision has now been made to get rid of Castro while He was shouting and beating his chest in public.
Bobby Bones
Makes perfect sense to keep that secret.
Jack Armstrong
Awful. And they go into, what time is it? You know, we got a second.
Bobby Bones
That sort of thing happens all the time, by the way. It'd be like MBS in Saudi Arabia saying, take out the Iranians. Somebody's got to do it. But he's not going to say that out loud.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Exactly. For instance. And then let's get back into this later. They go into a great deal of the relationship between the Soviets and the Cubans and Oswald's desire to hook up with one or both of them and how aggressively they researched it. But here's the part, the twist that I wanted to get to. And just by coincidence, Holman Jenkins, who writes editorials for the Wall Street Journal once a week or whatever it is, wrote a great piece today, nobody Wants the COVID Truth. Why Western intelligence agencies helped Putin and Xi keep their darkest secrets. And he starts with the fact that. Well, actually, he starts with in 1978, scientists quickly concluded that the previous year's global flu pandemic originated in a lab leak in China or Russia. But they chose not to advertise their findings because their overriding priority was to protect diplomatic relationships which were warming with Russia and China.
Bobby Bones
What year was that?
Jack Armstrong
1978.
Bobby Bones
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Now, Jenkins writes this column has long highlighted a reasoned disinterest of the US and other Western governments and finding the truth about COVID 19, which would complicate relations with China. And he mentions the CIA, finally, five years later, said, yeah, it's probably a lab leak, but we have low confidence. Low confidence. The diplomatically vital caveat, Jenkins calls it. German intelligence apparently concluded as far back as 2020 with high confidence that a lab mishap was responsible. But that finding was only leaked this month, followed by frantic cover your ass activities by German politicians concerned about relations with Beijing.
Bobby Bones
So for anybody who's wondering how we got from JFK to Covid. So this is, this is just the. Sometimes they keep stuff secret to keep things smooth with other countries.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. The intelligence services and the civilian controllers of them will absolutely soft pedal the evil doings of our adversaries and enemies if they have diplomatic goals, that the truth that the American people are housed polling for would. Would be compromised.
Bobby Bones
Boy. And that's a problem because there's a lot of judgment calls involved in that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Up to and including China killing millions of effing people.
Bobby Bones
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Let's soft pedal this. It would be, it would ratchet up, you know, tensions.
Bobby Bones
When you can picture all kinds of bad judgment calls being made around that because your particular world is so important to you, your relationships with that person.
Jack Armstrong
Sure. Right. And how wrong were Nixon and, and Kissinger about Chinese intentions?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's interesting stuff. That's deep state stuff right there.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's, that's why I brought it up. It all fits.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. How about the magic bullet? Do we get into that at all? How did it make a left turn?
Jack Armstrong
I'm not gonna get move into a cabin in the woods and start firing off manifestos and blowing off people's fingers. But it's enough to make you pretty sin, I'd say.
Bobby Bones
Good to know we've got a mailbag on the way. Stay here.
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Get a big kick out of the daily my team did this, their team did that back and forth. But I do get a real big kick out of just like Bright Line philosophical divides between people who have a conservative mindset and people who have a progressive mindset. And we got a great example of that from Chuck Schumer on the View yesterday that we'll get into an hour too. I mean, you either agree with him, and I know lots of people who would nod their head, or you're horrified at his point of view about your money. So stay tuned for that now or two.
Jack Armstrong
I just respect the fact that anybody affixed their eyeballs to that dumpster fire and watched it long enough to comprehend what was said.
Bobby Bones
I saw a clip of it on Twitter. It's not like I'm going home and watching the View in my in my spare time.
Jack Armstrong
Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Continuing our series from Theodore Roosevelt the pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer.
Bobby Bones
You know, that is so true. That is so true. But man, you get into it if you try to. If you try to talk to a pacifist and say, look, you're really just.
Jack Armstrong
Taking fighting more war and death well.
Bobby Bones
And you're just taking the intellectual easy way out. You're unwilling to engage in reality, so don't waste my time. I mean it's a very insulting thing to say, but it's true.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I would like to read the rest of that paragraph, hear more of TR's reasoning. Very little time though. So let's get right now. So let's get to Mailbag. Why don't you communicate? Drop us a note Mailbag @armstrong and getty.com is the email address. Keep them as short as is reasonable. I mean if you're brilliant, have brilliant points to make, go on for a while, that's fine. James writes just a few words. First of all, there's no such thing as Twitter. It doesn't exist. Second, Jackson Idiot Joe's a moron. Sincerely, James. And he signs his full name.
Bobby Bones
I would like to break down between idiot and moron.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, James, if you could write back and elucidate a little further, we, we'd appreciate it.
Bobby Bones
Does one rank higher than the other? I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I think we both want to know that. Yeah, that's right. Who is the greater maroon in your. In your opinion, sir? J.T. livermore, frequent correspondent, writes, I can't be the only person who hears about those astronauts who embarked on a very short trip to outer space and only ended up stranded there for a very long time. I can't be the only one who hears that and thinks of the Gilligan's island theme song. A three hour tour. A three hour tour. Surely some musically creative person could put together a spoof music video. It's got to be out there. Or have your computer do it.
Bobby Bones
The AI AI could do it in like a minute.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of AI, note from let's see, Mark yesterday you find gents spoke of the seven dwarves being done via cgi. And yet. Oh, in the idiot Snow White movie. And their voices still have to be done by actual dwarves though why? I mean, if a man can play a woman, get nominated for an Oscar, why can't a large or normal sized person do the voices of dwarves in the cgi? Snow White. Love the show. Katie's great. The perfect amount of great American sarcasm.
Bobby Bones
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I would agree. Signs off from Frog's Nipple, Ohio. I've never been to frogs nipple sounds, but it's lovely this time of year. Speaking of the awful, awful Snow White movie that nobody will see, Garrick writes, you made no mention that Disney loves diversity so much that they can't even make Snow White white. There was character. You'd think they'd leave alone. Unlike the Little Mermaid, for instance, it'd be Snow effing White. She's Hispanic or whatever. Nobody on the right cares. Really? I don't care.
Bobby Bones
No, I don't care.
Jack Armstrong
I got to admit it be weird if she was black and called herself Snow White, but you know, whatever. I'm not going to see the movie anyway. Oh, we're out of time. Damn it. The cruelty of the clock.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand - Episode: "Your Boobs Float!"
Release Date: March 19, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
[04:06 - 06:18]
The episode kicks off with Jack Armstrong and Bobby Bones delving into the challenges of human space travel, particularly focusing on Elon Musk's ambitious plans for colonizing Mars. They discuss the physiological effects of prolonged space missions, such as muscle atrophy and bone density loss.
Bobby Bones shares a humorous yet insightful take on the harsh realities of space travel:
“It’s rough on a human being. Which brings to mind Jack the illumined question. How the hell can we get somebody to Mars and have them be anything other than just a glob of jelly? Isometric exercises. That's what I say.” [04:54]
Jack Armstrong adds depth to the conversation by referencing Elon Musk's optimism:
“He said 20 to 30 years before there’s like a space station there. I don’t know when he’s expecting to actually have a human being just go there. I don’t think there’s any plan to come back.” [05:23]
The hosts contemplate the societal implications of establishing a human colony on Mars, questioning whether the same human nature issues would persist off Earth:
“I would really like to see is you get enough people up there that you start to have a society that then has exactly the same problems we’ve had here on Earth.” [06:18]
[07:19 - 11:14]
Bobby Bones shifts the discussion to the politicization of space exploration, highlighting how media coverage varies based on political biases. He criticizes the Biden administration's handling of space programs, citing Elon Musk's frustration with political interference:
“Elon’s entire point is that we need to be the first species probably in the universe to be multi-planetary.” [05:31]
Jack Armstrong echoes these sentiments, pondering the potential for political conflicts to undermine space initiatives:
“They can do so much with robotics these days.” [05:29]
The conversation underscores the tension between technological advancements and political agendas, questioning whether Mars colonization efforts can remain apolitical.
[27:07 - 40:00]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the release of over 30,000 pages of previously classified documents related to the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy. The hosts explore various conspiracy theories and the potential involvement of the CIA.
Jack Armstrong provides a detailed analysis of one memo from 1967:
“Gary Underhill... spoke with a friend about how a small clique within the CIA was behind the assassination.” [30:11]
The discussion highlights inconsistencies and suspicious circumstances surrounding the memo writer's death, raising questions about the validity of official narratives:
“Underhill was found dead, shot to death in his Washington apartment. The coroner ruled it a suicide.” [31:05]
Bobby Bones reflects on Lee Harvey Oswald’s connections:
“Lee Harvey Oswald's connection to the Soviet Union at various points of his life... he freaking lived in the Soviet Union for a while.” [31:38]
The hosts debate the implications of these documents, suggesting that if governmental entities like the CIA were involved in high-level conspiracies, it would have profound ramifications on public trust and governmental integrity:
“If the CIA took out the President of the United States, that would be just... heads explode.” [34:46]
[36:17 - 40:00]
Jack Armstrong connects historical secrecy in intelligence operations to contemporary issues, referencing how intelligence agencies often withhold information to maintain diplomatic relations. He draws parallels between past and present secrecy surrounding significant events like the JFK assassination and the COVID-19 pandemic.
“The intelligence services and the civilian controllers... will absolutely soft pedal the evil doings of our adversaries if they have diplomatic goals.” [39:12]
Bobby Bones emphasizes the recurring pattern of secrecy for political convenience:
“Sometimes they keep stuff secret to keep things smooth with other countries.” [38:59]
This segment underscores the ongoing struggle between national security interests and the public's right to transparency, suggesting that historical patterns of secrecy continue to shape current events and public perception.
[45:03 - 47:53]
In the Mailbag segment, listeners share their opinions and critiques. One listener, James, sends a terse message criticizing one of the hosts:
“Jackson Idiot Joe's a moron. Sincerely, James.” [45:37]
Another listener, J.T. Livermore, reflects humorously on the stranded astronauts:
“...think of the Gilligan's island theme song. A three-hour tour.” [46:19]
Jack Armstrong engages with the feedback, addressing the lack of context in some listener comments and maintaining a light-hearted tone despite the harsh criticisms.
[35:22 - 40:00]
The episode wraps up with Jack Armstrong summarizing the significance of the newly released JFK assassination documents. He highlights the potential links between the CIA, the mob, and Oswald's Soviet connections, suggesting that these revelations could reshape historical understanding and public trust.
“They go into a great deal of the relationship between the Soviets and the Cubans and Oswald's desire to hook up with one or both of them and how aggressively they researched it.” [33:10]
Bobby Bones concurs, emphasizing the enduring fascination with the JFK assassination as a fertile ground for conspiracy theories, and the importance of these documents in potentially uncovering hidden truths:
“The Kennedy assassination is always made for such great movies or speculation or books.” [34:46]
Bobby Bones on space politics:
“We need to be the first species probably in the universe to be multi-planetary.” [05:31]
Jack Armstrong on JFK documents:
“A small clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination.” [30:11]
Bobby Bones on intelligence transparency:
“Sometimes they keep stuff secret to keep things smooth with other countries.” [38:59]
Jack Armstrong on historical secrecy’s impact today:
“The intelligence services... will absolutely soft pedal the evil doings of our adversaries if they have diplomatic goals.” [39:12]
Space Colonization Challenges:
The hosts highlight the immense physical and societal challenges of establishing a human presence on Mars, questioning whether technological advancements can outpace political and human nature issues.
Conspiracy Theories and Trust:
The release of JFK assassination documents fuels long-standing conspiracy theories, emphasizing a critical need for transparency to maintain public trust in governmental institutions.
Intelligence and Diplomacy:
Historical patterns of intelligence secrecy continue to influence modern geopolitical strategies, often at the expense of public knowledge and accountability.
Listener Engagement:
The Mailbag segment illustrates the diverse and passionate responses from the audience, reflecting the polarized nature of contemporary discourse.
This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers a deep dive into the complexities of space exploration intertwined with political maneuvering and historical conspiracies, providing listeners with engaging discussions and thought-provoking insights into some of today's most intriguing topics.