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And it's Morey.
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Now Jack Hughes puts it around the car. United States with numbers blocked across it comes. Jack Hughes wins it. The golden goal for the United states for the first time since the 1980 miracle. The United States takes the gold. Jack Hughes beating Jordan Benedict. And by the way, Hugoli played not bad. How are you? Say hi. How are you? Say hi to him. How you doing, Don? I have seen hockey goes have slightly worse games. Unbelievable. And you are all unbelievable.
Jack Armstrong
And.
Joe Getty
And game is pretty good. You played. I don't know. Trump is so good at that sort of thing. That's Donald Trump calling into the locker room after USA Hockey beat Canada for the gold medal yesterday in overtime. I wish I had watched it. I didn't.
Morey
Oh, yeah, I. I'd heard the result. I was doing other things and I watched the entire game every single minute knowing the result. It's one of the most exciting hockey games I've ever seen in my life. Maybe the most exciting other than the miracle on ice.
Joe Getty
So I didn't know in overtime they do three on three.
Morey
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Okay.
Morey
That's a cool idea. So the ice is wide open.
Joe Getty
That's a cool idea.
Morey
Nothing but end to end action.
Joe Getty
The shootout. I hate that. I hate.
Morey
Oh, it's stupid.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Morey
You can't end it by playing one sport so you switch to another sport. It's dumb.
Joe Getty
And so they. Canada had two to one more shots on goal than we had, yet we won.
Morey
Yeah, they really dominated the game. They dominated the action. The only stat they didn't win is the number of times the puck entered the goal.
Joe Getty
This is the only time I'm comfortable using we when talking about a sports team because I am an American.
Morey
Yeah.
Joe Getty
I'm not part of the team, but I am an American. They're playing for USA and man, that Canada team. I actually felt bad for him. They were so hurt. I mean, they were in pain standing there having to listen to the US national anthem and with their silver medals around the neck. It clearly was a devastating loss for those guys.
Morey
Yeah, it was. It. It was very cold, tender. Was amazing.
Joe Getty
Well, it's cool. They take tremendous pride in the fact that the sport was invented there. They're the best players in the world, always have been since the sport was invented. And with. Even with their tiny population, I mean, we barely won. They have a tenth of the population, so I mean, that's pretty impressive what
Morey
they do with that sport, the national game in Canada. And we also play hockey, so it's an enormous point of pride for them. And after the. The recent tensions with our two countries, mostly spawned by our president, Canada took that one hard. Oof.
Joe Getty
Well, you could have given in and been our 51st state and we would all been on the same team, beating Sweden for the gold medal. So that was your choice.
Morey
Yeah, I guess. What did I say I was gonna do it?
Joe Getty
Get an email about this.
Morey
Oh, that's right. Yeah, there it is. It was something. Here it is right here. Mark writes, guys, Canada is the only country I've ever been to where I experienced unmistakable anti Americanism. Sometimes subtle, sometimes impossible to miss. There is a significant percentage of Canadians who have a real chip on their shoulder about the US I've run into it in various situations, from store clerks to people I meet in social circumstances. Of course, it wasn't everyone, but enough to get my attention. It was quite an unpleasant surprise.
Joe Getty
Was this recent. Is this since Trump did his thing? Because that was not my experience. I used to travel to Canada pretty regularly, and I never ran into any anti Americanism back in the day.
Morey
He actually has been traveling to Canada since the 70s.
Joe Getty
Wow. I've never run into that. And I talked to a lot of guys in bars over the years in Canada. Yeah, I can see how post everything Trump said that that could change. Definitely.
Morey
Yeah, I don't think he's been there since that. Yeah. Yeah, that'll do. Enough. They look for excuses to criticize their big neighbor to the south. Well, Trump's given them a couple of excuses lately, but it's a shame. I hope we can mend fences. I really do love Canadians.
Joe Getty
Speaking of foreign policy, last week, we and everybody In News highlighted AOCs, swing and miss on the question of what do you do if China attacks Taiwan? So it wasn't a gotcha question, given the fact that AOC had traveled to Germany to the big Munich security conference thing that they have every year to specifically show that she has foreign policy chops and is capable of running for president. That was the whole reason for being there. And maybe, I mean, if it's not number one, it's in the top three or four most obvious foreign policy questions on the planet.
Morey
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Is what do you do about China wanting to take Taiwan? And does the United States step up and defend them? And do we have that audio around? I should have asked for that when she was asked the question. And she hums and haws for a very long time before she gets a single word out. Do we happen to have that? Michael, yes or no? No. You're shaking your head. You're not. Okay, definitely for. It's my. My fault for not asking for it. Can you look for it? Is this a possibility? Okay. She was asked the question and she. She was not at all Able to answer the question, you know, fluidly, lucidly, in any way. She barely got any words.
Morey
No idea.
Joe Getty
She could barely get any words out of her mouth at all. And she has been criticized so much. About every news outlet that I took in, including your left leaning ones, were like, that was not good. And I'm a big fan of Mark Halpern's political newsletter just because of the guests he has on and the podcast and people from different quarters. And they were all like, this may have done her in. This idea that she was some sort
Morey
of serious presidential contender is just insane. I mean, it always has been.
Joe Getty
But here she was when she was asked the question, does the United States come to Taiwan's defense if it's attacked by China?
Jack Armstrong
You know, I think that this is such a. You know, I think that this is a.
Joe Getty
And then she got to an answer that wasn't any good after that, but. Whoa, okay, so she's doing serious damage control. Like I said, a lot of your political pundit heavyweights of all political stripes have said this may have doomed her. Like fundraisers who are willing to throw money your way might be saying, no way. Sorry.
Morey
And for this, nevermind the presidency, which again, is laughable. But she was going after Chuck Schumer's Senate seat, right?
Joe Getty
Anyway, so she put out this tweet yesterday to try to explain what happened.
Jack Armstrong
If you think that I don't understand foreign policy, because out of hours of discourse about international affairs, I paused to think about one of the most sensitive geopolitical issues that currently exist on Earth. I'm afraid the issue is not my understanding, but rather the problem is perhaps you've gotten adjusted to a president that never thinks before he speaks.
Morey
So many questions. Number one, is that her dog snoring or her man? Or is she in a homeless shelter or what?
Joe Getty
That's her dog snoring. Which if. If you're running for president. And you. What do you think of that, Katie? You like that she's in a shell shelter?
Morey
So you're completely humiliated, right?
Joe Getty
You're completely humiliate. This may have doomed your. What people were considering a legitimate shot of being the nominee for president for the Democratic Party. And you're gonna clean it up with a video in which you obviously have a cold or have been crying or something, you seem emotionally upset, and you're gonna have the phone next to your pug who's practically drowning you out with it snoring.
Morey
I didn't hear a word she said
Joe Getty
because of the dog snoring to Be honest with you
Jack Armstrong
if you think that I don't understand foreign policy because out of hours of discourse about international affairs, I paused to think about one of your political issues that currently exist on Earth. I'm afraid the issue is not my understanding, but rather, the problem is perhaps you've gotten adjusted to a president that never thinks before he speaks.
Joe Getty
Okay, well.
Morey
And I hemmed and hawed and said nothing for one solid minute when you asked me to deliver an oral book report because I hadn't read the book. And now you're accusing me of not knowing the material. How dare you?
Joe Getty
I teach my kids that. Yes, so you get up there and you turn it around. So I immediately couldn't explain the plot of Moby Dick because I haven't read the book. I think the problem is with you, the teacher, because she makes it. The problem is you. I think if I paused. If your reaction was, you think I don't know foreign policy because I paused. The problem is with you. Huh? I turned it around on you. Good night. Me and the dog are going to sleep now.
Morey
Everybody. Good Lord.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Morey
Bad dog. Bad. Anybody who's ever been in a dysfunctional relationship is more than familiar with this technique, but as always, it's the great James Lindsay. You explained it in a way I could understand. The Darvo Deny attack, reverse victim and offender. How dare you. How dare you accuse me of not knowing foreign policy just because I whiffed by, like, four feet on one of the most basic and important questions on the globe. Right? How dare you. This is racism. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Come on. Yeah. And so Halperin's version, talking to a whole bunch of political heavyweights, like people who've run campaigns and everything like that. Their. Their question was, it's not only a hit on her, you know, how read up she is on these various topics and ready to go. It's a hit on her staff that she's clearly, you know, putting together and thinking about running for president. How did they let her walk into that conference without having her read up at least on, like, that topic? Ready to go on something unless that was her sitting there. Taiwan. I know. They told me something about Taiwan. We talked about this on the plane. What was the thing about Taiwan?
Jack Armstrong
You know, I think that this is such a. You know, I think that this is a.
Joe Getty
Does she bounce back from this, or is this.
Morey
She paused.
Joe Getty
Is this seen by such a tiny slice of people? It doesn't make any difference?
Morey
Yeah, I don't know. Probably more the latter.
Joe Getty
I don't know. I think it's bigger with the like the people she can hire in the, in the fundraising.
Morey
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I'm surprised for somebody as glib as her because, I mean, if you're the least bit glib, you start talking and then you figure out what you're gonna say while your mouth is going. You don't just sit there silent.
Morey
Just a bunch of time killing phrases. I think, I think, I wonder if maybe you can. Is anybody hungry?
Joe Getty
If you jump in with. I'm really glad you asked that question. That's definitely at the top of the list of things we all need to discuss and have a conversation as a country on how we want to handle it. And while you're saying all that, you're thinking of your answer.
Morey
Well, you've got to be completely unaware of the Taiwan issue and groping again for something you saw or somebody told you not to say. It's an extremely sensitive issue. Just start there or. That's an enormously important question. I'm glad you asked it. Our policy has long been strategic ambiguity. I understand why that is. I'm not going to change that here on this stage today. Ha ha ha ha. But I know Taiwan is an incredibly important friend, ally and asset to the United States. Come on.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I er.
Morey
Well, I think I wonder. I paused. Come on.
Joe Getty
And because I thought deeply and you're bothered by that, I think the problem is with you.
Morey
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We do need to talk about Iran. We haven't talked about as much as we usually do with all sources saying we are going to attack them at some point. It's just how much, when, how sustained, etc.
Morey
Meanwhile, over on CNN, quite a get, quite a coup. The president calling in apparently to one of their shows to talk about tariffs
Joe Getty
right after the tariff ruling on Friday. You know, everybody had the breaking news, breaking news. It was huge story. Obviously the Supreme Court ruling against Trump's power to tariff. The president called into cnn.
Jack Armstrong
John in Virginia, Republican, let's hear from you.
Morey
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Morey
And you have Hakeem Jeffries, he's a dope. And you have Chuck Schumer who can't cook a cheeseburger.
Joe Getty
Of course these people are happy. But true Americans will not be happy. And you have the woman earlier. I assume she's a woman, she's a Democrat, but she's devastated.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Democratic caller.
Morey
Prank calls to call in shows the
Joe Getty
six people watching that must have been really confused and or amused.
Morey
The 90s called. They want their pranks back.
Joe Getty
Who's watching C Span. So obviously that was a like AI recording that they had locked and loaded. Sounded like to me.
Morey
Did it? Yeah, I don't, I don't know. Yeah, you're probably right.
Joe Getty
And you know Trump, given his press conference on Friday where he came out and called the said he was disappointed in the justices and they should be ashamed and their embarrassment to the country and their families should be ashamed and
Morey
all that stuff, they're under the control of mysterious foreign influences. Oh, my God. That was one of his worst moments.
Joe Getty
That's what the Wall Street Journal editorial board says. They thought that was the low point of Trump's second term so far. Him going after the conservative justices and saying they're an embarrassment and probably on the take for foreign governments. We're so used to this sort of talk now, it barely even lands with me. But that time, you go back a few years and that would be such a monumental thing. The president just said that members of the Supreme Court are on the take from foreign governments.
Morey
Right. And then you've got the left saying all sorts of just ridiculous crap about the Supreme Court all the time. Just completely inaccurate. I just. We've degenerated to a point where it's just, it's discouraging and it's very difficult to get anything done. Our political discourse has just gotten so stupid.
Joe Getty
Yeah. They haven't figured out how they're going to unwind the whole tariff thing or if they're going to try to unwind the whole tariff thing with the $240 billion or whatever that various people paid to various things. And then the one you're always bringing up, how do you even measure a business that shut down that decided, well, I can't be any business anymore because I can't afford to do this, and
Morey
just laid off 20 people. Yeah, that sort of thing.
Joe Getty
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Morey
Yeah. Untangling it is going to be a nightmare of lawsuits. Mostly the lawyers get paid and that's what's important. Let's so go ahead.
Joe Getty
Let's check in on Iran when we come back. Also, there's the Wall Street Journal. Journal. Mentioning it again. Has some audio of people that were in the streets when they opened fire in Tehran. And it's really damned interesting and at least horrible and at least partially why we're going to war, I think. So we got all that on the way. If you missed the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Yeti on demand.
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Morey
It turned very quickly. All we heard was gunshots. That was when we actually realized we're in a war zone. The more people we kill, the less we have tomorrow on the street.
Joe Getty
So that is from the Wall Street Journal today. They talked to four different people and have their eyewitness testimony as protesters that were on the street in Iran, various places on January 8, when the government decided, all right, that's enough. Your weeks of hundreds of thousands, millions of people in the street protesting, we're putting an end to it now. And slaughtered probably tens of thousands of people. Well, as pointed out in the Wall Street Journal, by modern standards, where you can get so much information out and about, it's amazing how little has escaped from that night when all those protesters were slaughtered for all kinds of reasons, starting with they didn't go into the streets with their cell phones because it's so easy to be tracked by the government there. Or they, if you have a cell phone and you did have it with you, you erase any information you had, any videos or anything like that, because if they, if they grab your phone and find it, they're going to kill you or torture you.
Morey
Well, and they were systematically doing that. They were searching phones.
Joe Getty
So there's reasons to not have the phone or destroy the evidence if you were there. And as we've talked about before, they're going around to the hospitals, hey, you got any wounded 20 somethings here? And then they go and talk to them and they torture and kill them or take them off to a prison or whatever. So there's not a ton of information that's gotten out of there. The four people they talked in the Wall Street Journal are people that have gotten out Iran and are now somewhere else. But as you heard there, that guy even didn't want his voice to be recognizable because the bad guys in Iran, if they could figure out who it was or guess close enough, they'll go after his family and friends who are still there in the country. But as it points out, talking to a couple of these people. The regime's use of force against protesters is what first prompted President Trump to threaten an attack in early January when he posted on Truth Social that if Iranian forces kill the demonstrators, the United States of America will come to their rescue. Protesters who were there that night of the when the slaughtering began told the Journal that Trump's messaging motivated them to go out into the streets. Quote, people were talking like, they cannot kill people this time because America will be supporting the protesters. That's actually what got them out on the streets. Yeah.
Morey
Oof.
Joe Getty
Which is. Yeah, that's a heck of an oof. Which is part of the reason, I think, that Trump's looking at going after Iran militarily. Not the only reason. Here's a little bit from ABC News on where we are currently. They have two aircraft carrier strike groups,
Morey
more than 100 cargo planes, refueling tankers, fighter jets, multiple bases, and we think something in the region of 35,000 U.S. troops across, across the Middle East. Now, the president has said repeatedly that he prefers a diplomatic solution, but now
Joe Getty
he also says he is considering a limited strike to try to force Iran
Morey
into making a nuclear deal. Iran is insistent that it wants a negotiated solution, but while saying it's prepared for peace, it's also stressing it's ready for war.
Joe Getty
Yeah. So the New York Times is reporting today that Trump has told his advisers that if diplomacy or any initial targeted US Attack does not lead Iran to give in to his demands to give up the nuclear program and a few other things, he will consider a much bigger attack in coming months intended to drive the leaders from power. So currently the plan is assuming the negotiations fail, which everybody seems to be assuming is the case, there's going to be an initial attack to try to get their attention. Targets under the Trump has been leaning toward an initial strike in coming days intended to demonstrate to Iran's leaders, one, that we're serious and two, that we can, you know, do you some serious harm. Targets under consideration in the next couple of days consider range from the headquarters of the Revolutionary Guard Corps to the country's nuclear sites to their ballistic missile program, if those don't turn the tide. So we hit them really, really hard over a day or two. And if that doesn't turn the tide, Trump has told advisors he leaves open the possibility of a military assault much bigger later this year intended to topple Khomeini. And then the New York Times says there are doubts even inside the administration about whether that goal can be accomplished with airstrikes alone. That gets you into the boots on the ground conversation.
Morey
The aspect of this that's really intrigued me is what the heck are the mullahs and the other leaders of Iran thinking? And speaking of the New York Times, they got some pretty good analysis about this and they mentioned that there's a dangerous mismatch in perceptions between Iran and the United States, and that's why the negotiation is just not going anywhere and conflict looks almost inevitable. Facing high stakes brinksmanship as American warships and fighter jets mass off its shores, Iran has refused to concede to President Trump's demands on his nuclear program. And weapons, a stance that has bewildered U.S. officials. The authoritarian clerics who rule Iran see those concessions, which in their view would compromise their core ideology and sovereignty as a greater threat to their survival than the risk of war.
Joe Getty
They're wrong about that.
Morey
I would agree. So here's the. Here's a political scientist at the University of Tehran. Good work if you can get it. Who says avoiding war is indeed a high priority, but not at any cost. At times, a political state, especially an ideological one, may weigh its place in history as heavily as, or even more heavily than its immediate survival.
Joe Getty
Well, I put my survival way at the top of my list of needs.
Morey
You know, when we. We found out through recent unearthings of documents that Stalin was an actual true believer communist, as is Xi Jinping. You know, normally, I think we think of communism. You can't possibly believe that crap. You're a totalitarian state and communism is your excuse to have a totalitarian state. It's just another. It's the horseshoe theory, fascism, blah, blah, blah. No, they actually believe it. It's difficult, I think, for Western minds, modern minds, to conceive of the Ayatollah and his boys actually believing all their apocalyptic seventh century Islam stuff and would rather be wiped out than come to a compromise with the U.S. i know
Joe Getty
it's gotta be quite the negotiation situation where you talk to these people and say, look, we're gonna obliterate you. All right? We're just gonna obliterate you. What are you talking about? Not agreeing to our demands, but okay,
Morey
here's more of their thinking. It's the very perception of Iran's weakness that experts say makes Tehran determined to resist, quote, and this is the Iran Director of the International Crisis Group, whatever that is. For Iran, submitting to the US terms is more dangerous than suffering another US Strike. They don't believe that once they capitulate, the US will alleviate the pressure. They believe that that would only encourage the US to go for the jugular. Ayatollah Khamenei has repeatedly stressed his view that Washington's eventual aim is to topple Iran's system of governance. You're right. Nuclear energy is not the problem, nor are human rights. America's problem is with the very existence of the Islamic Republic, he said in a speech a couple of years ago. And again, he's not wrong. He, Khamenee insists on uranium enrichment as, quote, a pillar of the regime itself. And if Iran's leaders concede on those points, quote, they will actually undermine the existence of the regime itself.
Joe Getty
I Am kind of surprised by this new thing that I hadn't considered. The New York Times talking about where we hit them pretty hard real fast and it's like, okay, do you believe me now or what? Thinking then they can get to some serious negotiations and then like months later it says in the New York Times,
Morey
if this analysis is accurate, it won't do any good.
Joe Getty
No.
Morey
It's difficult to know though. There's no more murky and mysterious government on earth than Iran's.
Joe Getty
Well, there's nothing more murky or mysterious than a government that wants to go to war like the United States. In terms of misleading people, I mean, this all might be complete BS and we're gonna go full on regime change starting at noon today. They just, you know, wanted them to be off guard. Who knows? You don't. You're not required to be honest in this stuff leading up to a war, right?
Morey
Indeed. Who is this dude who's quoted. He's probably another think tanker. But I thought this quote was intriguing. To think that a war every time either makes Iran more flexible or facilitate, facilitates diplomacy, is nothing but a delusion. He said, here's an Iraq, he's some sort of Iran expert.
Joe Getty
Well then you got to go regime change, right.
Morey
Or accept them having a nuke.
Joe Getty
Well, that's not a, that's not an option. Ding. It's interesting thrown in there that even within the White House, people think that air power alone might not do this. Boy, you start putting troops in there, that's going to get everybody's attention.
Morey
Yeah, yeah. I think the modern American has little stomach for. It's hard and complicated and we might not be successful, but we've got to try. We're just not used to that as a country at this point. Partly because we're coming out of that period of history where a lot of folks were sold on the idea that, nope, war's over, there's no need for any war. This is a 19th century act in a 21st century world. There's no need for force of arms anymore. Only neocons and warmongers would ever suggest any sort of armed conflict.
Joe Getty
Conflict. Heck of a situation that we end up in being the world's one of the superpowers or the superpower up until recently in that we got to solve all these problems. Europe is perfect. You're okay in Europe with Iran getting a nuclear weapon and all the ways that will destabilize the planet. You got no say in this whatsoever. France, Germany, England, you're just gonna let you're just gonna let Iran get a nuclear weapon and just control that entire area, The Strait of Hormuz, Be able to threaten all your allies, everything. You're going to let that happen? Unless the United. Unless Donald Trump, who you claim to hate and think is out of control, does something. You're just going to sit in the sidelines and see how it turns out? Yeah.
Morey
Oh, bojo. Boris Johnson, remember him? He unleashed a fiery screed the other day saying, Europe, we're a bunch of phonies. All your tough talk about independence from Washington, you're going to stand on your own and you're with each other now. What a crock of crap that is.
Joe Getty
It is. Look at this Iran situation. Look at it. How is there. How is there no more involvement from European countries on wanting to have a say in this? It's really quite amazing.
Morey
Yeah, I agree. Got the worst judge in America. Could talk about that.
Joe Getty
How do you end up being the worst judge in America?
Morey
You use every excuse you can come up with to turn loose a predator back on the streets. For instance. It's a good way to get my vote.
Joe Getty
I did want to get to this at some point. Mamdani's blasted for requiring five forms of ID to shovel. While he opposes voter id. Are you familiar with this? Pretty funny story?
Morey
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Giant snowstorm rolling into New York. If you turn on the tv, you're gonna hear about it. If you want to go help shovel out like your neighbor's driveway or something like that, you have to be part of some sort of New York City government shoveling commission. You can't just go do it on your own. You gotta. You gotta fill out all the paperwork online. And you have to have five forms of ID to prove who you are to go shovel your neighbor's driveway.
Morey
Wow.
Joe Getty
Is that in Mamdani's world?
Morey
Isn't that something New Soviet York.
Joe Getty
What is that? The soft, warm embrace of the collectivism. I'd like to help you shovel your walk, but I haven't. I can't find the original copy of my birth certificate.
Morey
I need a government permit to do you a favor. There's so much red tape and getting a doing you a favor permit, I'm not going to bother.
Joe Getty
Nice. Yeah, we got a lot on the way.
Morey
We will replace the fragility of rugged
Joe Getty
individualism with the warmth of collectivism. Yes.
Morey
Islamianist, yes.
Joe Getty
More on the way. Stay here.
Morey
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Joe Getty
This is all. This is all about our country right now. I love the usa. I love my teammates.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
The USA hockey brotherhood is so strong and we have so much support from ex players. And I'm so proud to be American. I'm proud to be American. Loving that. It was like the, like the before times. USA Hockey wins gold medal, men and women. And they're all. Do you see the video? I retweeted it last night because I hadn't seen it of them singing the national anthem and swing swaying back and forth. Freaking awesome. Like the before times. Like I keep saying, because everybody's been shamed out of doing that sort of thing in the modern era,
Morey
which don't get me started. But what's that?
Joe Getty
Which hockey player was that that we were hearing from right there?
Morey
That was Jack Hughes who scored the game winner in overtime.
Joe Getty
Okay, cool. So I was just. Joe was telling the story earlier about the goalie making some unbelievable play or whatever, and I just saw on a Twitter account, this is the greatest stop in hockey history. And they showed it from different angles in slow motion. What the hell was that? No, it's.
Morey
It's Ninjas in the Matrix style save. It's impossible.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, that is something. So that was the difference right there. That was the gold medal difference right there.
Morey
Oh, yeah, yeah. Can it outplayed our boys, but we had the best goalie on the planet, bar none. Connor Hellebuck. Unbelievable.
Joe Getty
Very cool. And they're all going over the White House and the player too is going to be at the State of the Union address tomorrow night and everybody will stand in cheering. It'll be very, very cool. This is not cool. This is the worst of America right here. So if you listen to the show, you know who Barry Weiss is. She worked at the New York Times. She left even though she's a Lefty. She left because they're too woke and they're insane and not doing real journalism. Then she started her own thing, the Free Press. She sold that for a couple hundred million dollars and now is the news director at CBS and trying to turn that whole organization around. Well, because she went to CBS and she's, you know, making some attempt to make them a place where you can go and hopefully you're going to hear facts regardless of whether it helps the lefties or not. She was disinvited to UCLA for an annual guest lecture that they have by prominent journalists.
Morey
That's perfect.
Joe Getty
Jonathan Turley's writing about this today. Bari Weiss was just canceled as the speaker at this guest lecture. It is the latest example of viewpoint intolerance led by faculty members who did not want students to hear. One of the most impactful figures in all of journalism in America. She's probably number one. Yes. In terms of the discussion about what journalism is or isn't. Margaret Peters, associate director of the center at ucla, is quoted in the Daily Bruin as threatening to resign if Weiss even appears virtually, let alone in person. Peters complained that Weiss's Weiss uses the guise of free speech to attack people on the left whose opinions she does not agree with. And having her speak at a signatory lecture would legitimize these actions.
Morey
Is she that crazy or does she not understand the hypocrisy of what she said?
Joe Getty
Based on my own personal life of people I know like that they think their woke viewpoint is the center. Yes, they think they are in the center. And anybody attacking that is somebody that's got to be crazy, right?
Morey
A real fascist. So, like attacking somebody else's views is something that's not kosher professor lady, really.
Joe Getty
She threatened to resign if Barry Weiss even spoke virtually because that was the gonna be the compromise position. Okay, you don't get to come in the lecture hall and do your speech, but we'll have you up on the screen.
Morey
A center left lesbian.
Joe Getty
A center left pro choice lesbian.
Morey
Yes.
Joe Getty
Who is going to speak at UCLA about journalism. People were going to resign. And the university being so afraid of that happening. Plus, I'm sure the students hate Barry Weiss. They decided to cancel it. So what you've been saying for several weeks now, it ain't over.
Morey
Oh, no, my God, it's barely even begun. And there's no sign that we are going to win the battle. The progressive, you know, mindset is so entrenched in the universities, I've called for just tearing them down. I think they're too diseased. They're like so infested with rats and roaches and lice and whatever else. You just got to burn the house down.
Joe Getty
Ucla. How can you even call yourself an institute of higher learning when you do that? I mean that's.
Morey
You're not. You're just an indoctrination factory.
Joe Getty
Unbelievable.
Morey
You should be ashamed of yourselves, ucla. You should be humiliated.
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Episode Title: You're Accusing Me Of Not Knowing The Material?! How Dare You!!
Date: February 23, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty (with Morey)
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)
The episode tackles major recent headlines with Armstrong and Getty’s signature blend of satire, skepticism, and conversational analysis. Key topics include USA Hockey’s Olympic gold medal win, AOC’s foreign policy fumble and the ensuing media fallout, escalating U.S.-Iran tensions, controversy over Bari Weiss’s disinvitation from UCLA, and a humorous take on excessive bureaucracy in New York city. The hosts dissect the political and cultural implications of these stories, using memorable quotes, candid language, and their trademark dry humor.
Olympic Triumph Recap:
The episode starts with enthusiastic coverage of Team USA’s dramatic gold medal win over Canada in Olympic hockey, drawing comparisons to the “Miracle on Ice” and reflecting on the mutual pride and rivalry between the U.S. and Canada.
Key Highlights:
Memorable Quote:
“This is the only time I'm comfortable using ‘we’ when talking about a sports team, because I am an American.” — Joe Getty, [04:34]
Background:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is criticized after her widely-panned answer to a question on what the U.S. should do if China attacks Taiwan during the Munich Security Conference.
In-Depth Dissection:
Darvo Move:
Morey references psychologist James Lindsay’s framework — Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender (“How dare you accuse me of not knowing foreign policy just because I whiffed by, like, four feet on one of the most basic and important questions on the globe. Right? How dare you.” — Morey, [12:28]).
Memorable Moments:
“If you're running for president … and you're gonna clean it up with a video in which you obviously have a cold or have been crying or something, you seem emotionally upset, and you're gonna have the phone next to your pug who's practically drowning you out with its snoring.” — Joe Getty, [10:45] “If your reaction was: you think I don’t know foreign policy because I paused? The problem is with you. Huh! I turned it around on you. Good night. Me and the dog are going to sleep now.” — Joe Getty, [11:59]
Political Fallout:
The incident is said to have possible lasting damage on AOC’s aspirations and credibility, both as a possible Senate and presidential contender ([09:41], [13:54]).
Easy Pivot Tips:
The hosts joke about how any prepared politician should have had at least a “strategic ambiguity” non-answer ready ([15:37]–[16:22]).
CNN Prank Call:
The hosts mock a moment where an AI or prank “Trump” calls into CNN to react to the Supreme Court’s ruling on presidential authority regarding tariffs ([20:01]–[21:16]).
Supreme Court Fallout:
Wall Street Journal Eyewitness Testimony:
The hosts play chilling audio from Iranian protest eyewitnesses about the regime’s crackdown and discuss how regime violence is fueling the conflict ([26:42]–[28:05]).
Trump’s Military Strategy:
Analysis of reports that Trump is considering targeted strikes against Iran to pressure the regime, with the option of a full-scale assault if diplomacy fails ([30:10]–[31:31]).
European Inaction:
Critique of European countries’ lack of involvement or resolve regarding a nuclear Iran, despite the risks to global stability ([36:49], [37:47]).
Academic Free Speech Under Attack:
They discuss UCLA faculty and students forcing the cancellation of journalist Bari Weiss from a guest lecture, despite her status as a prominent, center-left figure ([43:55]–[47:21]).
Broader Critique:
The hosts rail against academia as being “indoctrination factories” and suggest some universities are beyond repair due to ideological capture ([47:21]–[47:49]).
The episode is characterized by:
This episode is a lively, irreverent, and at times scathing survey of American politics, media failings, global conflict, and bureaucratic absurdities, all seen through the skeptical and comedic lens of Armstrong & Getty. Whether discussing hockey or foreign policy blunders, the hosts keep the dialogue fast-paced and packed with quotable takeaways — ideal for listeners seeking both information and amusement amid the news of the day.