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And now here's Armstrong and Getty. The New York Times has had a chance to review the just released UFO photos. Never before for seen by the public pictures of identified flying objects. The New York Times says the initial files are murky still images that could be anything. In one, a cluster of dots appear on the screen. And another there are some strangely shaped objects.
Joe Getty
The truth is out there.
Jack Armstrong
I like that sentence. In another photo there are some strangely shaped objects.
Joe Getty
I got some strangely shaped objects for you.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, come over here. Oh boy. Why does this always make the news? Who's this for? 10 year old boy? 10 year old me. Other than that, who's interested in this?
Joe Getty
I know I miss the gatekeepers.
Jack Armstrong
No kidding.
Joe Getty
Meet the Beagles. The giant beagle liberation movement that happened in the last couple of days. I want to talk about that at least a little bit. Plus a very, very funny parody of the New York Times recent interview with Tucker Carlson. Stay tuned for all of that and much, much more. But first let's take a fond look back at the week that was. It's Cal Clips of the week. Yeah, look, I mean my hope for
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
America is what it's always been.
Joe Getty
I think it's the hope I hope we all share. We want it to continue to be the place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
Councilman Robin's plan for treatment.
Joe Getty
First, I will go below the Harbor Freeway tomorrow with her and we can find some of these people she's going
Jack Armstrong
to offer treatment for.
Joe Getty
She's going to get stabbed in the nec.
Will F. Trump be your guiding principle in dealing with the President?
Political Commentator
Donald Trump sucks.
Jack Armstrong
Americans expressing growing concern about President Trump's
Joe Getty
job performance and the President underwater on every issue tested.
They should check themselves before they wreck themselves.
President Trump said today that the conflict with Iran is going very well.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
We know Iran is embarrassed by the
Jack Armstrong
fact that our blockade is holy.
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Operation Epic Fury is concluded.
Central Command describes the American strikes as self defense.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
In an interview with me tonight, President
Jack Armstrong
Trump called them something else, a love tap.
Joe Getty
If there's no ceasefire, you're not going to have to know.
Jack Armstrong
You're just going to have to look
Joe Getty
at one big blow coming out of Iran.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
They're insane in the brain.
Jack Armstrong
This is the purported suicide note that his former cellmate claims Jeffrey Epstein left behind. What you want me to do? No fun, not worth it.
Joe Getty
Federal judge is criticizing the current conditions
Political Commentator
for the accused gunman of the White House Correspondent's Dinner.
Joe Getty
At a minimum, I should be apologizing to him. We are obliged to make sure that
Jack Armstrong
he's taken care of.
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Could this be the Antichrist?
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
I actually did not say could this be the Antichrist?
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Could this be the Antichrist?
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
I don't know where that comes from. U.S. department of Homeland Security's X account
Jack Armstrong
was set up using an IP address from Israel. Using an Android app purchased in Israel.
Political Commentator
You can't earn a billion dollars.
Joe Getty
That's right.
Political Commentator
You just can't earn that.
Joe Getty
That's exactly correct.
We now have a scientific technological. System by which we can take your urine and ship it to us and we'll be able to turn extract the gold minerals out of your.
It's clips of the week.
We ought to play the other AOC clip that's gone so viral from that same interview in which she explains that it's impossible to earn a billion dollars. You have to have stolen it. I can do it now. It's a lot of audio. What do you think? You want to hear it?
Jack Armstrong
Sure, yeah.
Joe Getty
Why not?
Political Commentator
74 Michael There are very few like real archetypes of, in my opinion, truly what America is all about. I think about the civil rights and voting rights movement and how black Americans really created democracy in this country.
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Joe Getty
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Political Commentator
How they literally made something from nothing, it is just beyond me. I think about how like native people have survived and preserved and treasured their culture. I think about, and I think many of us think about immigrants, which if you aren't from one of those first two populations, you are certainly from largely the third. And so many of us like have our story of our parents, our grandparents, our great great grandparents and so on and so forth and who like and make something from nothing. And I think that's A big part of. Also the most inspiring elements of what America is all about.
Joe Getty
Wow. Checked plenty of boxes, but couldn't squeeze in the trans crowd. Black people. Made democracy out of nothing. She's an ignoramus.
Jack Armstrong
So her whole thing about you can't become a billionaire without stealing from people
Joe Getty
or breaking laws, it's impossible. That is right. That is complete. That is exactly right. The host said.
Jack Armstrong
Who's she doing the interview with? Who says you're right all the time?
Joe Getty
You're exactly right.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, that, that whole you can't become a billionaire thing is really interesting to me. I just wonder if she actually believes that.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And this and this cutoff that we use, you know, from what is it, 10 figures to 12 or whatever, but you know, 100 millionaires get a pass. But if you cross the line into billionaire, you're a different class because we like round numbers. Even though a billion dollars today would be 580 billion in the year 2000, that's how much inflation has happened.
Joe Getty
Come up with an idea so lunatic that it couldn't be included in a political movement. It's impossible. Getting swept up with fervor causes people to say and do things that are utterly loony.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. I guess, I guess it's the household you're raised in. Nobody fully knows the answer to this question. If it's something about the way your brain is wired or entirely what your parents taught you or whatever. But I just have never been bothered by the existence of billionaires. Whereas clearly some people, and I know some of them are just mad every day that they're billionaires on Earth. You think that's just learned or you wired that way or it doesn't bother me. I don't care if Elon Musk ends up with $2 trillion. I don't feel like it's taken from me. I assume if he ends up with $2 trillion, it's because he did enough things that produced enough products that people wanted to buy that made him that much money. How does that hurt me?
Joe Getty
Are there some boards of directors that are kind of incestuous with each other and vote each other money and that sort of thing.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, oh, no doubt.
Joe Getty
Sort of thing goes on and. And maybe the money changers who own Congress get the laws crafted in ways that benefit themselves. I get that.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, no doubt.
Joe Getty
The idea that if you have an idea so good, 500 million people want to give you $50 that you shouldn't get that money.
Jack Armstrong
Why.
Joe Getty
But again, that's self evident to me.
Jack Armstrong
Especially when we got unexplained flying objects out there that could be anything. Murky pictures of, could be anything. Strange shapes, strangely shaped objects. Do the math. Caught on film. Do the math. My high school is really into the X Files right now. Oh, I've never seen one minute of one episode of the X Files.
Joe Getty
Sam or Henry?
Jack Armstrong
Sam. My 16 year old, my sophomore Judy
Joe Getty
and I watched every single episode ever made many of them twice.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I know a lot of people love it. I probably would too. I just have never got around it. But he's man, he's into it.
Joe Getty
Go to your YouTube or something. Get your list of the 10 best episodes of the X Files and just enjoy them.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I never made it through Breaking Bad. I kind of tried to start that the other day. I just don't have a lifestyle currently. Maybe when my kids are grown. I just don't have a lifestyle currently where I can do that.
Joe Getty
But I remember that, that point in my life where every single minute I was acutely aware of I shouldn't be doing this. I don't have time for this.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I've got other things that are a higher priority.
Joe Getty
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No damn fun, but satisfying in a lot of ways. Very.
Jack Armstrong
I, I worry constantly about when this goes away, what life is going to feel like.
Joe Getty
Utterly hollow. Kidding.
Jack Armstrong
Well, it didn't before. My life didn't feel utterly hollow. Sometimes it did, but often it didn't. But I didn't have anything to compare it to. Now that I have something to compare it to.
Joe Getty
Some like shouting into an empty oil tanker.
Jack Armstrong
Hello, Hello, Hello. But the other day between like scouts, school, pickups, this that, you know, everybody is a parent has these experiences. But then we ended up with a doctor situation. We had to go to urgent care. We were there for three years at like 10 o'.
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Jack Armstrong
I finally was like, okay, what can I do that's fun for, for the day since I haven't done that one single thing that was a fun today and I'm too tired. I'll just go to bed.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, whatever. So very, very funny parody of the Tucker Carlson interview with the New York Times coming up. I hope you're as amused as I was.
Jack Armstrong
Still on this thing of if, if you were going to like self indulgently eat whatever the hell you want, you chose pizza.
Joe Getty
Am I limited to a single food or can I like like a condemned man, design an entire meal?
Jack Armstrong
I suppose you could design an entire meal. Although I think I would throw up. I mean, because I couldn't Eat a whole bunch of pizza and a milkshake. That'd be. Whoa.
Joe Getty
I'm going with pizza. A nice, I don't know, Italian red wine, a nice chiante classico or something like that. And. And then apple pie. Alamode.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's a pretty good meal right there.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah. Yep.
Jack Armstrong
Michael, you have the diabetes, so this is probably very unfair to you. Yeah, it's okay.
Joe Getty
If I'm gonna go, you know, who cares?
Jack Armstrong
Pizza, and maybe, let's see, banana cream pie.
Joe Getty
Banana cream pie?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
An esoteric pie, a fringe pie, if you will.
Jack Armstrong
I actually say to my kids, and I probably shouldn't, God will punish me for this, because as I mentioned last hour, when I. When I was going through chemotherapy and everything like that, the doctor told me, eat whatever you can eat. That sounds good. And it will, you know, stay in you and don't. This is no time to worry about a diet. And that was the only upside because I would just eat whatever the hell I wanted. So I. Sometimes I say to my kids, if I ever get cancer again, I'm eat a lot of that, which is just a terrible way to. I know. I don't know who I believe is like up there saying, oh, you mocking cancer, I'm gonna give it to you.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I don't. I don't actually believe that's the way
Jack Armstrong
the universe works, but I. I'd prefer not to find out. Exactly. Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.
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This is comedian Amy Kozak who is portraying both the New York Times interviewer and Tucker Carlson. He just changes wigs in the video. Enjoy.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
I want to talk about your relationship with the President and where it stands currently. When was the last time you were in the Oval Office A few months ago, I went to the Oval Office. I had gone several times, actually. Like a lot. Like a lot. And what did you see when you were there? You know, everybody knows this, but I'll just confirm it. Like, Bibi had been in there before me, and he probably had a gun to Trump's head.
Joe Getty
Really?
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
Like an actual gun? Like a loaded weapon. You're saying Benjamin Netanyahu had a gun to his head and he had Donald Trump in a chokehold. And I know that Donald Trump had a wrestling background. He was involved at one point in the wwe, but clearly that didn't matter, like, at all. And Bibi had a gun to his head and said, we're going to Iran. We're doing this. And Trump was like, no. And you saw this with your own eyes. I mean, Washington insiders know this. They know this. Wait, so this happened or didn't happen? I mean, I wasn't in the room, but I imagine it was something like that was going on. I mean, you don't go to Washington multiple times without trying to influence the president for your agenda. But you went. I'm sorry, I'm confused. Okay, well, what is your assessment of President Trump currently? Well, I attempted to communicate with the President. I went outside into the forest, and I screamed and I screamed, don't do it. I don't know if that was effective. I don't know if he heard. I don't know if he could hear me, but. But I certainly tried to do that.
Jack Armstrong
I did.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
I think it's possible Donald Trump might be a wizard.
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Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
I do believe that. I do. What do you mean by that? Well, the last time I was at the Oval Office, I walked in, and at one point, the Chief of staff looked at me, and Donald Trump himself looked at me. He said, you shall not pass. And I thought, that's not our president. That's Gandalf. Gandalf the White. And there's nothing wrong with being white, by the way. I say that as a white person, as a man, as a Christian, but Trump might be a wizard. And so I understand you correctly, what you're saying is you literally believe President Donald Trump might be Gandalf from Lord of the Rings? I don't know, but we should be able to ask those questions, I think. Okay, moving on. What is your current relationship with Turning Point usa? Well, like, I've always loved TP usa. I've loved the organization. I've headlined many times. They didn't ask me to do it this year. And so that is what it is. But I've always participated in their events. I've never charged anything, by the way. I've always done it for free. And they always paid me. A lot. Like, a lot. Like, a lot. So I. And do you think TP usa, as an organization is in decline? I haven't the faintest idea. But, yes, I just have questions. Like, legitimate questions. And the moment you ask questions. Socialist, Communist, anti Semite. No, no, I just have legitimate questions. Like what happened to Charlie Kirk? Should capital be taxed at half the rate of labor? What's Bibi Netanyahu's father's middle name? Or if a demon rapes you without protection, should you get checked for STDs because it's itchy? Okay, tell me more about J.D.
Jack Armstrong
vance.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
Who is J.D. vance? J.D. vance, the vice. I mean, I know J.D. are letters. I mean, they're letters. J and D. I mean, J, people are gonna say Nazi J. But those are just letters to me. Those are just. Those are just letters of the Alphabet to me. You're telling me you don't know who J.D. vance is? I literally don't know who that is. Those words have never come out of my lips, actually. I've never uttered those words ever. And I've never. Tucker, look, I've watched you for years, okay? Way back during the cable news days when you had a show on. What show? Your television show. I've never had a show, like, at all. You had one of the highest rating television news programs. I've literally never uttered words out of my lips on television, like, ever. Like, that I can recall. I'm talking about the years when you were on Fox. What do you mean by Fox? Like, the animal? No, Fox News. I'm sorry. I only know Fox the Animal. I mean, I don't know what it sounds like, actually, like, at all.
Jack Armstrong
What does the Fox say?
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
Tucker, are you okay? I've never been on tv. I don't. I don't know what this is.
Jack Armstrong
Where are we? Who are you? Who am I?
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
What is this? What is this question? I have questions.
Jack Armstrong
Who am I? I don't know. Where are we?
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
We should take a break. I'm John.
Joe Getty
You get the idea. That's how odd it's gotten.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And it's not that many degrees off the reality. I mean, that interview that Tucker did with the New York Times where he states that. I never said that. Then the New York Times plays a clip of him on his show, obviously real, and he says, I don't know where you got that, but that's not me or I didn't say that or something.
Joe Getty
I never uttered those words.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, what are you talking about, dude?
Joe Getty
1200 beagles have caught America's attention.
Jack Armstrong
Jack, have you nailed down the behind this Story story on this? Oh yeah, you have. Okay, stay tuned.
Joe Getty
Ladies and gentlemen.
Jack Armstrong
It's an awful lot of beagles. That's like 10 dozen beagles.
Joe Getty
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Finally tonight, nothing but love for those beagles. Tonight, the remarkable effort to save the beagles. It was just last night here we reported on the staggering need. Authorities say some 1500 beagles have been removed from a Wisconsin research facility outside Madison. Animal rescue organizations say they saved them. Tonight, volunteers transporting the beagles by bus, by plane, the long line of volunteers holding the beagles. The nonprofits now looking for new homes for the dogs. And after our report, so many of you responded with donations and thousands of adoption applications.
Jack Armstrong
So I saw the original story in that they did it two nights in a row on ABC News. And until you brought me the whole story, I had no idea what was going on there. I thought it was like a research facility that closed down or something. I don't know that these beagles needed to be rescued, not that they broke it and took them.
Joe Getty
Well, they didn't. So the first episode, I'd missed the initial report the previous night. How did they present it?
Jack Armstrong
It's just kind of a generic. There are a whole bunch of beagles that need adopt this.
Joe Getty
Okay, so that's the way it struck me the second night. And having just read about this case, I was like, are you kidding? I mean, look, the evening news is. Is dopey and, and an anachronism. But the story is this beagle breeding facility in Wisconsin has been controversial for a very long time. They breed thousands of beagles for animal research purposes.
Jack Armstrong
My first dog was a beagle. So I have a particular affinity for beagles. Homer the Beagle. Beagle.
Joe Getty
My dad's first dog was a beagle too. And I actually did a little digging into what they were doing. Studies on pharmaceuticals for arthritis, heartworm, and vaccines for diseases like rabies and distemper. But following allegations of abuse, a 2026 investigation. Why, that's this year. Revealed dogs suffered in cruel experiments, including eye surgeries performed without anesthetic.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God.
Joe Getty
And testing involving parasite exposure.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God. My God.
Joe Getty
So the story in the Wall Street Journal was substantially about this Wayne Hsiang. I'm not sure how to pronounce his name. He's this attorney and can't remember what else he used to do. A turned activist who's just super into animal rights. And he developed this strategy that they used on this facility of an open rescue, they call it. They announced their plans. We're going to break into this facility and free the animals. Then they execute them in broad daylight, all but inviting arrest.
Jack Armstrong
This lets them execute the plans, not the beagles.
Joe Getty
Oh, yes, the plans, indeed. Yes, this lets them fight. That would their poor activists, if that's their plan. Anyway, this lets them fight the charges in court and on social media and argue publicly that they are saving, not stealing, animals. And this guy has hit dozens of facilities across the US but he's been on this beagle facility. Ridgeland Farms needs an E in there about 30 miles west of Madison. And I'm watching a video right now of hundreds and hundreds of beagles in cages, row after row after row. And I've got to admit, I think a lot of the animal rights stuff is overwrought and overdone. I don't think. I don't care particularly how much room a chicken has to live as it's laying eggs, but it's. It's. If you love dogs, it's hard to take.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I don't like the idea of painful experiments on. On beagles to do various things. But just in general, if you got beagles without homes, I don't understand how more animal lovers aren't aware of how many extra cats and dogs we have in this country, wherever you are. So that's what, 1500 beagles? I don't actually know, but I gotta believe there's 15,000, if not 150,000 beagles in pounds across this country that are gonna be put to sleep because nobody wants them.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's entirely possible.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, I don't know how many people have ever been to a shelter, a kill shelter. I have been that's where I got my dog Bogart, who was a. The longest dog I ever had, like in my life, like a decade.
Joe Getty
But anyway, what was he, like 4 or 5ft long or what?
Jack Armstrong
The longest I ever owned any one single dog. But I got him at the shelter where he was going to be put to sleep and in the Sacramento area and it was full of dogs. I mean, there were so many dogs there and nice dogs, there's lots of pit bulls too.
Joe Getty
And.
Jack Armstrong
But the, lots of just like regular dogs, people that decided they didn't want it or the old person died or whatever the hell. Lots and lots of perfectly fine dogs that are going to be put to sleep. And so I don't know why, I don't know. I don't know. Nobody, nobody needs another puppy, right? Yeah.
Joe Getty
And the fact that, I mean, look, beagles are cute dogs, they're loud. But yeah, the idea that you had no intention of adopting a dog till you saw, saw hundreds and hundreds of beagles on the ABC News and now you're gonna adopt a dog. It just feels a little hasty to me. I'm happy they had more people offered adoptions than they had dogs. They had a hell of a lot of dogs. But so anyway, this young guy has been hammering this facility for a long time. And last year a judge found probable cause that Ridgeland had broken Wisconsin anti cruelty laws and their settlement was, all right, we'll close that operation, we'll just do a much smaller thing that we do and we'll adopt out all the dog. And the activists said, you know what, that's better than we could get at trial. So they accepted it. And that's how we came to be at the happy cheery point. That bent nosed jackass, David Muir portrayed it as just a feel good story about lots of beagles and lots of people who want to love them. I'm David Muir, man. Although that part is true, certainly.
Jack Armstrong
Sure, yeah. It's a little bit of a childlike view of the world of there are more dogs and cats than people want. But, but, you know, he's trying to make people happy, whereas we're trying to make people. Well, we're trying to give people truth, but often in a depressing way. So maybe, you know, maybe there's no market for that.
Joe Getty
Here's the way some of this unfolded because it is pretty interesting on March 15, because this activist thought the deal had too many loopholes. So in spite of the deal that the judge made on March 15, he marched dozens of activists to the farm where they cut a chain link fence, broke into the building and took 22 vehicles. Videos drew tens of thousands of hits, and in mid April, he mobilized more than a thousand supporters to try to remove the remaining 2000 dogs. He previewed the mission in an interview with Tommy Laren. Of all people, Ridgeland was ready the facility hay bales fortified the fence. In a freshly dug ditch, a foul moat brimmed with animal waste. Uh. And he was arrested for the march incident. Upon exiting his car, law enforcement met protesters with tear gas, rubber bullets and zip ties. A scene as team posted on X. Laura Loomer retweeted the post to her 1.9 million followers.
Jack Armstrong
Terrible.
Joe Getty
Save the dogs. Other commentators shot back. That night, Lara Trump urged Ridgeland in an Instagram video to accept a million dollar offer from animal rights groups to re home all 2,000 dogs. Wow. So it's really been a big time ongoing drama with million dollar checks, poop moats, bolt cutters, zip ties and rubber bullets. Look at all those beagles. I'm David Muir.
Jack Armstrong
Okay. Nobody wants. Yeah, I'm gonna stay away from the reality of there's too many pets as a story. I feel like maybe if you, if that word got out there, more people would be, fewer people would have puppies with the idea that people love puppies. I just had a litter of eight puppies and people are going, no, most people have as many dogs as they want. Most people don't want a dog at all. And most people who do have a dog has as many as they want. The end. That's just the reality of the world of dogs and cats.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Well, when Judy and I are. My dog Baxter passed away, what, a month ago? And, and we were donating a bunch of his stuff to a local animal shelter that are. Would be glad to take it, by the way, if you have that sort of stuff. And I, I told Judy, I can't go in. I gotta stay out here. I'll walk out with the damn dog.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
It's hard not to.
Joe Getty
Yeah. If you have compassion in your heart, it is hard not to. Dogs literally beg you for stuff.
Jack Armstrong
I was kind of looking for a dog. I don't even remember the circumstance, but I went into that shelter and there was a. The dog that. Did I name him Bogart or was he already named? I don't remember. But he was in a pen full of crazy, yapping dogs and he was standing back in the corner just like, this really sucks. I really hate this. I said, what's, what's the deal? With that one there. And she said, oh, that one. He's been scheduled to be put down several weeks in a row, but we've been taking him home to save him because we just hope somebody will adopt him because he's so nice. And I had him bring him out and I hung out with him for a while. That this is my dog and he was my dog for like 10 years.
Joe Getty
He's like a four legged jack in the corner thinking, I'd rather not be here.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Till he lost his mind. He was one of those, like, you know, some people, your, your body gives out on you but your mind's fine. Or vice versa. He was, he was a dog whose body was fine, but his mind gave out on him at the end of his life.
Joe Getty
Yeah. I've learned more about dog dementia in recent years because we, we were concerned Baxter may have had a bit of that and he may have.
Jack Armstrong
But Bogart didn't know who I was at the end.
Joe Getty
Right. Yeah. That's sad.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Life, circle of life.
Joe Getty
What?
Jack Armstrong
No,
Joe Getty
no. If you ate them, that'd be the circle.
Jack Armstrong
Trump was just asked about UFOs because the pictures are out. As the stupid story continues to have stupid legs. A stupid story with stupid legs throughout the day for stupid people. I assume we will finish strong next Armstrong and Getty.
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level of wealth and accumulation that is unearned. Right. You can't earn a billion dollars.
Joe Getty
That's right.
Political Commentator
You just can't earn that.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so that's aoc and that's making the rounds. And as you can imagine, it makes fiscally free market sort of people. Makes your head explode listening to AOC say that and knowing she probably can go around saying that to various crowds and get cheered like crazy.
Comedian Amy Kozak (as NYT interviewer and Tucker Carlson)
Crazy.
Jack Armstrong
But Charles C.W. cook of the National Review had to immediately respond to that. You didn't earn that AOC Unintentional confession. I'll just give you a little bit of this because I think it's interesting. You can't earn a billion dollars, says the self professed Democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, the Brooklyn Democrat House of Representatives member. Properly understood, this is a confession. It is of course patently untrue that one can't earn a billion dollars in the United. Because around a thousand people have done it like Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Magic Johnson and LeBron James, to name a few. Even Steven Spielberg, Taylor Swift, Jay Z or Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and others. They did earn a million dollars. He's saying the confession is her. Is her basically saying that she can't earn a billion dollars. But anyway, I thought the ending was a pretty interesting point. Point. In practice, to tell someone that they can't earn a billion dollars is the same as telling someone that they can't do the thing that would make them a billion dollars. And that's what bothers him. If you don't know Charles C.W.
Joe Getty
cook.
Jack Armstrong
He is a Brit now an American citizen, but he grew up in England. And he said while England back in the day was full of people that, you know, dreamed of being this or that and were a I can accomplish anything sort of society, they no longer are. And he doesn't want that to happen to the United States where currently you feel like you can become a movie star or a professional athlete or whatever in a way that in a lot of places in the world you just don't feel like you can move out of the current status that you were born into. He doesn't want Ocasio Cortez's message of basically you can't earn a billion dollars because you can't do the things that would earn you a billion dollars. He goes on to say, had she said you can't become the greatest basketball player of all time, you just can't do that. That like Michael Jordan did to become a billionaire, you can't write a series of hit songs. You just can't do that. Taylor Swift, you can't spend decades producing beloved films. Steven Spielberg, you just can't do that. Well, people would have said, what are you talking about? Of course you can. But that's what they did to earn their billion dollars. So how is her saying you can't earn a billion dollars, basically saying you can't accomplish things?
Joe Getty
You can't come up with software everybody wants. You just can't.
Jack Armstrong
Pretty interesting.
Joe Getty
It's a horrifying attitude. I really despise it.
Jack Armstrong
Here's a dumb story, or maybe it's not dumb to you. I thought it was kind of dumb. I saw a headline in the San Diego Union Tribune about men's cologne. And it was something on there about how to choose a cologne that fits with your body chemistry. And I read the first paragraph. I'd never thought about that in my life. How different colognes smell different on different people. I guess so. I don't know. I don't even know what the process is to go about finding the cologne that feels better with your. Smells better with your body chemistry.
Joe Getty
I don't. You gotta swig some down and see how it goes. That's what you do, right?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know. I don't know how you do that. I would like to have one that works with my body chemistry, but I don't know how to do that. Anyway, also in that article, it led me to Chanel Number five, which is a female perfume mostly which I've heard of but didn't really know anything about. Do you know much about it? Chanel Number five.
Joe Getty
It's the most famous perfume in history.
Jack Armstrong
Right. But I didn't know anything beyond that.
Joe Getty
Smells nice other than that? No, I know nothing.
Jack Armstrong
It's really expensive. It's been around since 1921. It comes from a particular area of France, particular fields that it has to come from these jasmine flowers that are particular to that field in the soil and everything like that. Jasmine flowers that are hand picked at dawn because the heat changes the smell.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
The flowers then have to be processed within hours of picking. Roughly 1,000 jasmine blossoms go into a small bottle of the perfume. There's all kinds of different stuff that they do that that is either real or completely imaginary salesmanship.
Joe Getty
And I love the smell of jasmine and that.
Jack Armstrong
And that's all ivy beholder. Like lots of salesmanship on lots of things. Clothes, perfumes, cars, houses. All kinds of kinds of different stuff, you know, whether it's true or not if it's true to you. It's true to you. I guess. And I guess there are quite a few debates throughout the past hundred years over that. Still, it's very expensive. It's about 200 for a 3.4 ounce bottle. I don't have any idea how big a bottle that would be, but it sounds fairly small.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it's about an airplane bottle.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if I've ever smelt it before, but apparently there's a modern divide, according to Reddit, where younger people say it smells like grandma and don't really like it that much, and they're worried that the next generation is not going to want to spend several hundred dollars for a tiny amount of fresh picked jasmine perfume because they think it smells like the grandma. You must have had a rich grandma. I'm pretty sure my grandma had never heard of Chill number five, let alone owned several bottles.
Joe Getty
We had a hilarious discussion. My grandmother was at the family dinner table many, many years ago. Gladys. There I was, alas, of 14 or so. I think the whole family was there.
Jack Armstrong
What? Gladys? Okay, so now I know what it smells like. That's where Gladys wears Chanel. Oh, that's Chanel number four. Okay, not as good.
Joe Getty
Which, yes, she still has left over from the 30s anyway. And my grandmother's perfume of choice was opium, which led to a an hilarious discussion about grandma being on opium.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, your grandma was an opium addict? No.
Joe Getty
Well, she liked it a lot.
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Joe Getty
She would tell us, groggy, it's not an opium den, it's a club.
Jack Armstrong
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from the whole crew, such as it is these days with Katie Green off for maternity leave. Michelangelo, what's your final thought?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, earlier in the show we played Pete Webber this clip. Who do you think you are? I am. Well, Jack imitated it and I have it for you. Whatever you say you are, I am. Why did I do that?
Joe Getty
No idea. Do you have a final thought for us?
Jack Armstrong
Yes. I'm going to be a chauffeur tomorrow as my kids have all kinds of events, like three different for each kid and a pickup, drop off, pick up, drop off all day long. My oldest has got to get his driver's license sense so he can drive himself.
Joe Getty
My final thought is I canceled yet another round of golf today for yet another injury incurred while exercising. That's it. I'm never exercising again. I'm going to do stuff I like. I'm going to walk, going to hit golf balls about. I'm staying away from the gym. It's too dangerous.
Jack Armstrong
You hurt yourself exercising?
Joe Getty
Kind of.
Jack Armstrong
Huh. That sucks.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
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In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty tackle a diverse set of topics, blending their signature humor with sharp commentary on current events and cultural phenomena. They examine the media’s obsession with UFO “disclosures,” parody a New York Times interview with Tucker Carlson, dissect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s views on billionaires, and delve into the story behind the mass beagle rescue making national news. The hosts also reflect on personal topics like parenthood, pet loss, and even men’s cologne. Throughout, the conversation alternates between wit, skepticism, and genuine engagement with the issues.
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On Pet Overpopulation:
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This episode of Armstrong & Getty is quintessentially their style: satirical, occasionally biting, but often thoughtful about real issues behind splashy headlines. Whether breaking down the realities of animal rescue, critiquing populist economic arguments, or riffing on pop culture oddities, the hosts blend skepticism and humor, making even heavy topics both accessible and entertaining. This episode is especially recommended for those who value media critique, cultural commentary, and a side of irreverent banter.