You're Too Stupid To Be The Antichrist

Summary

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Episode: "You're Too Stupid To Be The Antichrist" (September 26, 2025)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive into the recent buzz about billionaire Peter Thiel’s public musings on the Antichrist, end-times prophecy, and the interplay between faith, tech, and world events. They go beyond headlines to discuss the social and cultural climate that surrounds these ideas, examining everything from Silicon Valley’s new relationship with Christianity to the dangers of political rhetoric and “permanent ephemerality” in modern media. Light-hearted banter, cultural observations, and notable Trump impersonations fill in the corners for a show that balances humor with thoughtful, if sometimes irreverent, analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Peter Thiel, the Antichrist, and End-Times Anxiety

[03:56–14:42]

• Antichrist in Christian Theology:
  Joe and Jack explain the concept: “A deceptive figure who mimics or opposes Christ’s teachings… a leader or system that promotes false beliefs or idolatry. No wonder people think like TV or the Internet are the Antichrist.” (Joe, 07:22)
• Thiel’s Four-Part Lecture:
  Thiel is reportedly speaking to closed audiences in San Francisco about technological progress, end-of-the-world scenarios, and how opposing certain technological advances might hasten the arrival of a totalitarian Antichrist (08:05–10:33).
• Armageddon and One-World Government:
  Jack paraphrases Thiel’s core point: “A one world government will form, promising peace and safety… this totalitarian regime will be the modern-day Antichrist.” (Jack, 11:02)
• Faith in Silicon Valley:
  Thiel’s openness about faith is inspiring a trend among tech elites, normalizing Christianity in circles long considered secular or even atheistic (Joe, 12:34).
• Critique and Self-Awareness:
  The hosts appreciate both the seriousness and the ambiguities: “You can apply [the Antichrist concept] to so many things if you want to demonize something.” (Joe, 13:40)

2. Forgiveness, Faith, and Human Nature

[27:05–32:25]

• Tim Allen & Forgiveness:
  Tim Allen credits Erica Kirk’s eulogy for inspiring him to forgive the man who killed his father decades ago, a gesture Jack and Joe both admire but grapple with personally.
• The Psychology of Not Forgiving:
  “It's like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.” (Jack, 28:31)
• Political Grudges:
  Jack struggles to forgive California politician Darrell Steinberg, who tried to get them fired: “I haven’t forgiven either—I want to fight him. Celebrity boxing right now. Let’s go.” (Jack, 31:33)
• Reflecting on Justice vs. Letting Go:
  Joe candidly shares that letting go is “selfishly… so helpful for me to just accept them.” (Joe, 29:12)

3. Rhetoric, Media, and Political Violence

[18:53–21:28]

• The ICE Incident:
  Discussion of media misreporting: NBC News ran a story claiming ICE agents held a girl hostage, later issuing a correction. Ilhan Omar amplified the error even after it was debunked.
• Historical Allusions:
  Reference to John Brown, abolitionist violence, and the dangers of self-righteous justification for violence (Joe, 19:22).
• Political Satire:
  Trump impersonator riffs on current news, offering comic relief: “Don’t use toasters in your bathtub… especially if you’re on the left, you people are fried enough as it is.” (Trump Impersonator, 21:28)

4. Media Consumption and the Problem of ‘Permanent Ephemerality’

[41:37–46:08]

• Star Wars and Marvel Overload:
  Christian Schneider’s essay prompts discussion: “These beloved brands are drowning us… In the past decade, Marvel has produced 23 television series, adding up to almost 500 episodes.” (Jack, 42:56)
• Diminished Value Through Abundance:
  Jack: “We live in what he calls an age of permanent ephemerality… so drowning in options, none of them means anything.” (43:32)
• Analogy to Other Aspects of Life:
  Joe links it to online dating and video rental stores—too many options lead to shallow commitment (44:45).
• Lighthearted Observations:
  “Where’s that funky horny helmet?” (Jack, 43:35), jokes about Marvel’s Loki.

5. Media Critique—Selective Outrage and Quoting

[32:57–37:53]

• Lack of Quote Context:
  The New York Times described community outrage over a pro-Palestinian speaker but omitted the specific controversial quotes. Jack says, “Give me the quote. What was said. Give me the whole quote.” (Jack, 34:14)
• Double Standards in Coverage:
  Criticizes how mainstream narratives can demonize without quoting, making it hard to evaluate if the anger or fear is justified.

6. Consumer Trends and Economic Snippets

[35:17–36:06]

• Brief mention of US consumer spending remaining strong, with some speculation about the top 10% of earners driving the data.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.”
  —Jack Armstrong, quoting Bob Dylan on the ambiguous nature of deception (08:05)
• “You’re too stupid to be the Antichrist.”
  —Joe Getty, ribbing Jack (13:15)
• “It's the classic… it's like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.”
  —Jack Armstrong on the futility of holding grudges (28:31)
• “Life's too short. Passing [on Happy Gilmore 2].”
  —Jack Armstrong, summing up his stance on pop culture overload (47:22)
• On media labeling:
  “The left so often won’t [quote], because when you look at it in the light of day… it was perfectly defensible.” (Jack, 34:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Peter Thiel’s Antichrist Thesis: 03:56–14:42
• Forgiveness and Tim Allen Story: 27:05–32:25
• Violent Rhetoric / ICE Story: 18:53–21:28
• Media Overload and Culture Critique: 41:37–46:08
• Media’s Selective Quoting: 32:57–37:53
• Consumer Economy: 35:17–36:06

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Tone & Final Thoughts

Armstrong & Getty’s signature blend of skepticism, humor, and cultural critique is front and center, especially when navigating the overlap between religious prophecy, Silicon Valley, and everyday American anxieties. The episode grounds heavy topics (existential risk, forgiveness, media bias) in relatable banter and folksy wisdom. Their playful sniping (“You’re too stupid to be the Antichrist,” Joe, 13:15) and asides (“Where’s that funky horny helmet?” Jack, 43:35) ensure even deep dives remain lively.

Crew Final Thoughts

[46:17–47:47]

• Michael: “When I was younger, I could stay up all night. Yesterday, I went to an office party… I’m exhausted.” (46:26)
• Katie Green: Jokes about applying for a husband on someone else’s behalf.
• Jack: Observes his son’s binge on classic TV (“House”) after exhausting modern options.
• Joe: Avoids “Happy Gilmore 2” entirely, laments U.S. defeat in the Ryder Cup.

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For listeners seeking a mix of cultural critique, current events, and lively irreverence—with a few laugh-out-loud moments—this episode is a prime example of why Armstrong & Getty remain podcast favorites.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe]

Just came across this headline. I sent it to my son because he loves this sort of stuff. One million year old skull discovery could change everything we know about human evolution much, much earlier. The smart versions like us Neanderthals and this other one been around a lot longer than they realized. Maybe I'll talk more about that later. Maybe I won't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you for finally speaking respectfully of my people, the Neanderthals. Coming up in moments. The Antichrist is coming for you. You probably ought to wake up and get ready. According to Peter Thiel, or Thiel, the billionaire investor in data AI, defense weapons development, tech zillionaire. It's an intriguing series of thoughts in a few minutes. But first, it's the Friday tradition. Let's take a fond look back at the week that was its cow clips of the week.

[Trump Impersonator]

My greatest evangelist for American liberty became immortal.

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That man, that young man, I forgive him.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you believe in the teachings of.

[Joe]

Jesus as I do.

[Jack Armstrong]

There it was.

[Joe]

That's. That's it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate my opponent and I don't.

[Joe]

Want the best for them.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry.

[Joe]

I am sorry, Erica.

[Jack Armstrong]

I fear that we will not have an election in 2028. I really mean that. When Democrats like Gavin Newsom, what they're doing is encouraging crazy people to go and commit violence Unless the rhetoric stops. It's not over. And it's just. It's scary, you know, and maybe I was being too cautious with a great deal of sadness about also the fact that it might have been a risk. Let's look on Merritt and I can tell you, on Merritt, he was a failure.

[Joe]

And on Merritt, she' Don't take Tylenol.

[Jack Armstrong]

My heart is broken for the Department of Justice and I'm innocent. So let's have a trial.

[Joe]

President Trump saying that Ukraine, with NATO's help, might be able to win back land taken by Russia. Are you surprised to hear that?

[Jack Armstrong]

A little bit. Do you think that NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they enter their airspace? Yes, I do. The Finnish answer is to be cool, calm, collected, take a sauna, take an ice bath and then take the right action.

[Trump Impersonator]

Trump was right about everything. And I don't say that in a braggadocious way, but it's true. It blows. All of these predictions that were made by stupid people. The countries are going to hell.

[Jack Armstrong]

These are the two things I got.

[Trump Impersonator]

From the United Nations. A bad escalator and a bad teleprompter. Thank you very much.

[Joe]

That might have been the Antichrist there. So Joe has been teasing this, like.

[Jack Armstrong]

In the right key. Wow, that was so cool.

[Joe]

Joe's been teasing this Antichrist story. So I said, what the heck is in Antichrist? So I, I groked it because before we get there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Before we get there. No, go ahead. Sorry. Change. We're going with plan C, which is just like plan A. Go ahead.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, I'll. The question next. Kill, kill, kill.

[Joe Getty]

Omaha.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next segment I'll ask you the question. It's about what Ilhan Omar said. So anyway, back to Jack.

[Joe]

So the concept of the Antichrist is rooted in Christian theology. Particular, the end time stuff refers to a figure or entity that is prophesied to oppose Christ and deceive people before the second coming of Jesus. This is, this is kind of interesting though, the particular characteristics. A deceptive figure who mimics or opposes Christ's teachings. Mimics. That's interesting for some of your giant kind of weirdo church leaders. A leader or power, an individual system or both that promotes false beliefs or idolatry. No wonder people think like TV or very or the Internet or various things. Are the Antichrist defeated ultimately by Christ's return?

[Jack Armstrong]

Though in the words of Bob Dylan, sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace. Anyway, Peter Thiel, the billionaire investor in data AI, defense, weapons development, all sorts of different things, wants everybody to think more about the end of the world. He has been delivering to a closed audience in San Francisco a four part speaking series about the Antichrist.

[Joe]

He a religious guy?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, he is. He's devoutly Christian.

[Joe]

I don't think I knew that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't either. Second lecture happened on Monday. Series is going to go on through early October, I guess.

[Joe]

Wow. I would, I would check that out.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you'd have to get an invite.

[Joe]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I'm important.

[Joe]

I'm kind of a. I'm kind of a. I'm a minor celebrity.

[Jack Armstrong]

Please. You're vital. You're more than important. Vital. And interestingly, this article talks about the increasing number of people in Silicon Valley who are willing to be open about their faith. It's interesting that they weren't before, but let's not get hung up on that.

[Joe]

That's not surprising.

[Jack Armstrong]

So one thing he says will do. James Comey, you piece of garbage. Anyway, he's not garbage. Wow. He's encouraging his audience to continue work. How do, what do you. How would you describe a man who either has no principles or fails completely to live up to those he says he has?

[Joe]

POG man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank you. Back to me. So he says to the audience, continue working towards scientific progress in AI and other forms of technology. Don't, don't fear it, don't over regulate it. Because opposing technological progress could hasten the coming of the Antichrist. So here's. And to a lot of years, this all seems crazy, right? Here's how Thiel says the end of the world might happen. Existential risks. And Jack, this is right up your alley. Existential risks will present themselves in the form of nuclear war, environmental disasters, maybe dangerously engineered bioweapons, even autonomous killer robots guided by AI, probably wolf shaped if the Chinese get their way. And as humans race toward a last battle, which is called the Armageddon in the Bible with each other book of the Revelation. Right, right.

[Joe]

Among us.

[Jack Armstrong]

So. So with all that stuff going on, it looks like we're heading toward the final battle, right? Well, a one world government will form, promising peace and safety. And in Thiel's reckoning, this totalitarian authoritarian regime with real teeth and real power will be the coming of the modern day Antichrist. A figure to find in Christian teachings, as Jack indicated, is the personal opponent of God who will appear before the world ends.

[Joe]

That, as it said, where I just read, doesn't have to be a person, could be a system.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Exactly. I thought that was interesting as you read that. The point of these talks, he says, I'm not trying to be defeatist. Oh, by the way, the series is being produced by the Hoover Institution, good friends of the Armstrong, you, Getty show, with whom we've not been in as close touch lately as we had been before. And we need to rectify that.

[Joe]

Yeah. Anybody Hoover invite me to this thing. I will go. Will talk lovingly of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. But he wants to drive people to think more about the Armageddon or the Antichrist or the final battle and, and who we might turn to in our fear. Celebrities in hopes. Well, clearly celebrities in hopes that humans can find a third way and avoid both outcome. See, there's one more part of this I like. Now, obviously there are very, very differing interpretations of the Antichrist. And Armageddon and how much we ought to be spending thinking about that. And they identify one leader of a prominent church in the Bay Area who's set for the lectures. And he believes. My best understanding is that the New Testament writers focus very little, if at all, on pointing followers of Jesus towards spending their energy on accurately identifying Antichrist. To give all of your energy thinking about all that, to me feels like a pretty feudal endeavor. Well, that's just like teach their own.

[Joe]

That's just like your opinion, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right.

[Joe]

I groped Peter Thiel's. I just asked Grok, is Peter Thiel religious? And yes, he's quite religious. I thought this was interesting. Feel integrates his faith into his philosophy, seeing it as a counter to atheism and liberalism, which he believes led to the madness of crowds. This has inspired, as you said, is inspired a wave of interest in Christianity among Silicon Valley elites, with some crediting him for normalizing faith in text circles.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. And I don't agree with his conclusions here, honestly, but he says maybe you're the Antichrist then. No, he would say I'm not nearly charismatic enough and powerful enough.

[Joe]

You're too stupid to be the Antichrist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, that hurts. All right. That left a bruise. The Antichrist probably presents as a great humanitarian. It's redistributive. It's an extremely great philanthropist, as an effective altruist. And these things are not simply anti Christian, but it's always when they get overly combined with state power that something is very wrong.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm. I. I love Christianity stuff and theology and all that sort of stuff. Just love it. I've read tons of it. Love it, love it, love, love it. But one of the problems with this concept, the way it's worded, is you can apply it to so many things if you need to or want to, to demonize something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. The part that really grabbed me about this, though, is that he was making the case that when there is the ultimate fear and the ultimate need to solve this, to do something, as the mushroom clouds are going up all over the world, blah, blah, blah, there will be a very powerful entity that says, I am here to help you and save you.

[Joe]

And I guarantee you we would turn to it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And because it's the world's greatest emergency, I will need the greatest power that's ever been granted that scenario, whether you think it's of God and the Antichrist and Armageddon or not, that scenario jingles true to these ears.

[Joe]

Have you seen Endgame the Marvel thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that's because I'm a grown up. That's. I saw it with my children.

[Joe]

In my defense, that's a pretty good portrayal of in the end, apocalypse or whatever. I mean just everything's going hell, crazy thunderstorms and tidal waves and the earth cracking apart and everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

So long for the days when poop was hitting fans.

[Joe]

Yeah, exactly. So you teased something else. I don't remember what it was, but it's going to be good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Funny, funny comedian. Another Donald Trump Rift and riff. Rather not rift riff. And also Trump said something very funny about Ilhan Omar, who's an America hating Islamist in my opinion. Cool.

[Joe]

All on the way. Stay here and keep the faith.

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This thing is ancient.

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[Joe]

Comedian Tim Allen just said something interesting about Charlie Kirk's wife's eulogy she gave the other day. I'll tell you about that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

So if you take seriously a lot of the stuff being said about ice, it's no wonder a guy was shooting at him. Shooting at ICE agents. Sure, the rhetoric has been horrendous. I mean, I have a long, long list of people from the the local to the media to big time politicians nationally, household names saying horrendous, inaccurate things. NBC News published an article.

[Joe]

You could see yourself as a John Brown like character easily in terms of justifying your violence.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that reminds me, there's the. There's an organization calling themselves the John Brown Society, I think recruiting on college campuses. Armed resistance.

[Joe]

John Brown and his sons hacked people to death with hatchets.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, nice. Oh boy. But anyway, NBC News published an article a couple of days ago accusing ICE agents of holding a five year old autistic girl to pressure her father to surrender authorities. So I snatched up an off autistic girl and threatened to do something to pressure her father.

[Joe]

That would be pretty evil if it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Happened, says the article's headline, which they tweeted out and promoted at NBC News. Little less than nine hours later, NBC News deleted its tweet promoting the story and updated the article to state the ICE agents simply were with the girl as they attempted to arrest her father because he gave the ICE agents both barrels and tried to run Away from his kid. The ICE agents were like, take care of the little girl. And they issued a correction that said the original story mischaracterized the activities of ICE agents. Representative Ilhan Omar, America Hater, Minnesota, posted the false claim on X and left it up even after NBC News deleted its own post. This is vile and cruel and beyond cruel. Abolish ICE. Omar wrote. Club number 10. Donald J. Trump, the president of the United States. This is funny.

[Trump Impersonator]

Ilman Omar and the group. You know, I met the head of Somalia. Did you know that? And I suggested that maybe he'd like.

[Jack Armstrong]

To take her back.

[Trump Impersonator]

And he said, I don't want her. Okay, what else?

[Joe]

Okay, what else?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Wow. And speaking to Donald J. This is Sean Frosh again, Trump imitator. We played yesterday with a great riff about. Well, we'll just go ahead and play. Michael.

[Trump Impersonator]

My fellow Americans, in light of recent studies, I wanted to warn against the use of toasters in your bathtub or your shower. It's an incredibly dangerous thing to do. You could get electrocuted. They call it electrocuted. I call it zapped like you've never seen before. A shocking experience. You don't want to get zapped, that much I can tell you, especially if you're on the left. You people are fried enough as it is. We don't need it to get any worse. And electricity is no joke. I got along very well with. You may have heard of him. Benjamin Franklin. I called him Brilliant Ben. And he was flying a kite and the lightning hit it, and he was getting electrocuted. He was getting zapped, and I grounded him. And if I wasn't there, it would have been a much different situation, but I grounded him and we discovered electricity together. Brilliant Ben. Tremendous guy. Got along very well with him. Along the same lines, we want to advise against licking your wall outlets. Despite what jiggly belly Pritzker says, your wall outlet is not a candy bar. Do not try to lick it. It doesn't taste very good. And you may pick up a shock which we don't want you to do. We don't want you to get hurt. I know those on the left love and enjoy very much licking their windows. We ask that we don't apply the exact same thing to the wall outlets. It could get you. We want to keep America safe. We want to make America great. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Joe]

Wow. That is good. That is a good impersonation. That's good on so many levels, so many of the nuances of the way he uses language.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And just the idea that he said don't use Tylenol. So you've got right lefties online guzzling Tylenol, which is one of the most stupid things you can do. One gal died from it already.

[Joe]

Really? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Acute liver failure. Yeah. Wow.

[Joe]

Okay, we got a lot on the way to finish out strong for the week, so I hope you can stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom Portable Speake and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time, save [e-mail] with code Fall25. Bring the boom XBoom.

[Cynthia Littleton]

There's a lot going on in Hollywood. How are you supposed to stay on top of it all? Variety has the solution. Take 20 minutes out of your day and listen to the new daily Variety podcast for breaking entertainment news and expert perspectives.

[Joe]

Where do you see the business actually heading?

[Cynthia Littleton]

Featuring the iconic journalists of Variety and hosted by co editor in chief Cynthia Littleton.

[Jack Armstrong]

The only constant in Hollywood is change.

[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

This thing is ancient.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Turns out a South African minister's prediction that the world would end on Tuesday didn't come true. Meaning Mika Pruszynski had sex with her husband for no reason. Wow. I'm not sure I needed that.

[Joe]

This is, this is interesting. This is pretty heavy for a Friday. Actor. Comedian Tim Allen. You know his work, Home Improvement. Sure, whatnot. One of your few conservatives in Hollywood.

[Jack Armstrong]

And. And what was his subsequent super giant hit that people absolutely loved? The man in Charge or.

[Joe]

No, no, I never watched that one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sir who's the Boss. No, that was different.

[Joe]

He said that Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk, inspired him to forgive the man who killed his father in a drunk driving accident more than 60 years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow.

[Joe]

Now, it's kind of interesting to me because Tim Allen's a well known, outspoken Christian, but he hadn't, for whatever reason, forgiven the guy who killed his dad till they heard Erica Trump or Erica. I keep saying that. Erica Kirk speak.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I wonder how many other people across the country had that experience. It is a good idea, just psychologically, even if not from a theological standpoint, in that you get nothing by hanging on to the, you know, the hate and the anger.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe]

It's the classic. The thing people say it's like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. They say that about carrying a grudge, which is similar. Yeah, Very, very, very similar. Yeah. You know, I've always struggled with this. I. I get it completely. I haven't really been in that position.

[Joe]

Not to that level. I haven't thanked God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, thank God. The enormity of the hurt of losing your father at age 11, for instance. I mean, I can't even imagine what's that, what that's like as suddenly and drunk driver. It feels like letting go. And I'm not making the argument. I'm just saying why I struggle with this. It feels like letting go of the impulse to insist on justice.

[Joe]

I've got in my own life. And thank God I don't have anything close to as big as what Tim Allen's talking about and what Erica Kirk was talking about. And I hope I never do. But I've had some. The biggest things in my life of people I'd resent, but I was able to forgive them. And, and, and that's been very helpful for me. Just as a selfish thing, it has been so helpful for me to just accept them. You know, that's, that's the way they're made or the way. The way he handled it at the time, and they couldn't help it or wish they hadn't themselves or whatever it is, depending on the situation. I have trouble with smaller things like. Aren't nearly as significant. Like my hatred for the most powerful Democrat in California for years. What's his name? Former mayor of Sacramento who tried to run us out of our job.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, right. Darryl Steinberg.

[Joe]

Darryl Steinberg. He is the most powerful man in California for a very long time. Which is, which makes you a powerful person because California is a very big, wealthy state. Like, that's a minor thing compared to the things I'm talking about, which I won't describe. Very minor compared to.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have trouble.

[Joe]

I have more trouble letting go of those kind of things than I do the big ones, for whatever reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would suggest at the point you can't remember your. Your enemy's name, it's time to forgive. Well, maybe it's not gone by.

[Joe]

Maybe I'm not hanging on to it quite as deeply as I portraying it. If I don't have his name, it's not like I have a shrine at home. And as soon as I get home, I get undressed and stand beneath and think, may you die today at a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fiery crash, Darrell Steinberg, skins in it, et cetera.

[Joe]

Oh, no, it was all because he tried to get us fired over. He, We. We talked about something on the air. He twisted it completely and tried to have us fired for political gain. Which makes you a hack, of course. That was, like, long before his career got started and he became the most powerful man in California, as I've stated, for a very long time. So it didn't hold them back. It worked.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah, it did, in a way.

[Joe]

Part of it, I think, is because.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not hearing a lot of forgiveness in Mr. Armstrong's voice. Are you no.

[Joe]

Well, I said I haven't forgiven him. Part of it is because I hate political hackery so much, and he's just like a symbol of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, sure, yeah. Well, right. And to try to take away somebody's living through distortions and, you know, I had a bunch of kids in my house and everything. Oh, yeah, it was it. We were politically incorrect.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we were talking about the challenges of diversity along with this supposed nothing but blessings from the left. And for that, he tried to, you know, put my kid's daddy out of work. But it wasn't even like, I haven't forgiven either. I want to fight him. Celebrity boxing right now. Let's go.

[Joe]

I just wish more people had known he was that kind of guy as he was rising through the ranks of politics. But it wasn't even like the Jimmy Kimmel or Bill Maher example where they actually said that thing and then I feel like they shouldn't be fired for it. We didn't say the thing that they were intended. The thing that they were claiming.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah. And you know what's really interesting, and it's funny we're dredging this up after all these years, is I have heard from many people who have worked with that fellow who say he's really a very kind and decent guy.

[Joe]

Well, as soon as he apologizes to me, I will forgive him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and here's the interesting part, though. We disagreed on really. It was before anybody called it woke, but we disagreed on the woke mindset. And. And in a fairly careful and gentlemanly way, by the way, that was enough to make a kind and decent man an angry savage who tried to ruin lives. Well, that's Bill Marshall, because we called into question the beliefs of his cult.

[Joe]

That's Bill Maher's point. And Bill Maher gets more, you know, has more credibility in this area than I do. Like me claiming that lefties are crazier with their politics than people on the right. You know, I'm on the right, so maybe I. That's just my view. But Bill Maher is not a person of the right. I mean, he's. He's made his living as a person of the left, and he says, I can talk to conservatives. It's a left that's nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Well, and. And again, if Daryl had wanted to talk about the disagreement, we would have been more than delighted to. Sure. Of course. In fact. Yeah, we would have sought that opportunity. His response was they should be fired and run out of town for having a different opinion, which I am going to characterize as racist. And then. And this is my. I've been. You know, it's funny, I've been wanting to get to this article from the New York Times that is a perfect example of what you see a lot.

[Joe]

And that is.

[Jack Armstrong]

The attacking side will characterize what you said. Your quote. You almost never see the quote. They just call it all sorts of scary things. And then if it's the other side trying to make a point. And in this case it was the Jewish residents of a certain town in, I think it may have been New Jersey, um, they were highly concerned about this pro Palestinian speaker. And the New York Times wouldn't give that quote either. They just. Or, or the reason the direct quotes for why the Jewish people were concerned. Give me the quote. What was said. Give me the whole quote. But the left so often won't do that because when you look at it in the light of day, in the case of what we said it was perfectly defensible or in the case of this, this controversy that I'm talking about, what the pro Palestinian person said essentially was let's have a thousand October 7th and kill all the Jews we can. I now I am to my discredit paraphrasing because I can't. I can't find it. But just the whole. I'll describe the quote for you and then tell you how horrible it is. Now, how about you just tell me what they said?

[Joe]

By the way, we didn't get to this consumer story today, which is good news that we should put out there. Consumer spending up and increased slightly more than expected in August as households went on vacation and dined out. But keeping the economy on solid ground, according to Reuters. As the third quarter progressed. So consumer spending hanging in there despite a lot of things we have heard. Wonder if there's any chance it was hoping to get ahead of tariffs? Could be. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I just wonder is it that top 10% of earners though that were pushing consumer spending you talked about a couple of days?

[Joe]

Certainly. Could it be 10. The top 10% of income people in this country are half of consumer spending right now. And it's never been that out of whack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. So just for the record, because I found it. Bookshop cancels event with Palestinian author over community concerns, the Times reported. But it wouldn't give any of the quotes that made the Jewish community concerned, which included on the day of the October 7th massacre, she posted resist on Facebook with Palestinian flags and flame emojis probably representing the babies who are set on fire and the families burnt alive and shot to death. The next day, she said, may we witness an indigenous uprising in reclamation of our lands on a global scale. On a global scale. Interesting. Our people are the protectors of life and land. May this Palestinian uprising be the push needed for the dominoes of colonialism to fall from every corner of this world. And on the first anniversary of the October 7th attack, she posted one year plus 76 of genocide and I don't give a fuck laugh about what anyone says or how anyone feels about how we fight and rid our land of the vicious colonizers. Free Palestine from the river to the sea. And she goes on and on and on. Then she pushed the fact that Zionists and Jews control the whole Western world. The United States is under Zionist occupation, which the New York Times helpfully summarized as the Jewish community was somewhat concerned about that authority.

[Joe]

Wow. So then on the other side, you can't speak at colleges or bookstores or whatever if you're pro choice or think boys shouldn't be in girl sports or a whole bunch of other things that are perfectly mainstream views, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or they helpfully summarize Charlie Kirk's views as hateful and divisive. But then, but again, don't give us the words.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Okay, we will finish Liars and the Lies. They lie.

[Joe]

That's right. Telling you we'll finish strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next Armstrong and Gang.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe]

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[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The only constant in Hollywood is change.

[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Wasn't that delicious? So good. Your bill, ladies. I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, I insist.

[Joe]

I insisted first.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, don't be silly.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't be silly.

[Joe]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Ugh. Come on.

[Cynthia Littleton]

Why is this taking so long?

[Jack Armstrong]

This thing is ancient.

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[Joe]

And for old timey television, that means new episodes come back. Saturday Night Live is new. Next Saturday, not tomorrow night, but next Saturday they come back with their 51st season and then 60 Minutes comes back Sunday night. I always watch 60 Minutes and I'm going to like the new CBS. Trying not to be crazy woke CBS but they've got the that governor of Utah that got so much attention as their big interview Sunday night.

[Jack Armstrong]

Spencer Cox. Yeah, that'll be good. So speaking of tv, I thought this was interesting and rang true. It it opens with who wrote this? Christian Schneider. He says have you seen the new Star wars series? What was it called? And or no wait, maybe it was Obi Wan Kenobi. Or it could have been the Mandalorian or oh Sokka or the Book of Boba Fett or Skeleton Crew or the Acolytes and then he says, as a Star wars crazed child of the 70s, I am the prime target audience for all this content. Yeah, I know it. I would. We were 12 when Star wars came out. And to say I loved that movie is like saying I love my wife. It's true. But it doesn't begin to describe the relationship I had with. With those movies. And he says, yet I haven't made it all the way through any of these series. Much less the glut of Star wars films cranked out over the past decade. What the producers now trying to wring every last penny from George Lucas franchise don't recognize is that the thing that made the original Star wars films special was their scarcity. And he describes it, and he says, but now, whether it's the Star wars extended universe or the DC comics world, these beloved brands are drowning us. It's impossible to escape them. In the past decade, Marvel has produced 23 television series, adding up to almost 500 episodes.

[Joe]

23 TV series.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe]

There's a new, new Loki thing coming out. I like Loki where it was once.

[Jack Armstrong]

Everybody likes Loki. Where it was once a challenge to seek out merchandise related to your favorite movie or show, now it's difficult to avoid. And his point in all of this is that what he. We live in what he calls an age of permanent ephemerality. Ephemeral meaning here today, gone today. We are so drowning in options. None of them means anything. It doesn't matter. There's another one right around the corner.

[Joe]

Loki's the master of mischief, so they say.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where's that funky horny helmet?

[Joe]

Yeah, that's interesting. The abundance of options does change the way you watch something. It's got to be really, really good for you to hang with it. Or you think. I mean, because when we were kids, there was one thing on worth a damn ever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Two if you're, like, crazy lucky. And then it was a conflict. But I like this, though. If you're a certain age, think about the time you bought a new album, cassette, or CD by an up and coming band you heard about from your friends. You were likely to sit and listen to that album over and over until you formed a real opinion on its merits simply because you were financially invested in it. To give up on a CD too early would be to light your 15 bucks on fire.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

But now every song and every album ever recorded is available on your phone for the monthly cost of a single album. Trying out a new artist means hitting a few buttons, listening to a couple of songs. If you don't like it, you just bail on it and try something else. You've invested almost nothing in discovering it, so it's not worth putting in the effort beyond skipping around for a few minutes.

[Joe]

That's interesting. That's an exact description of where did I read this the other day about online dating. And one of the many critiques of it in its current forms is that that is what happens with people. The endless options. You know, this is pretty good, but there's probably something better because there's a whole bunch of other options in the way that it has never happened in the real world in the past.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's funny. I remember I used to make jokes about video store disease back when video stores were a thing, because you'd go in there and you'd find 14 different things you were up for watching. And I couldn't decide. And sometimes I would just walk out again, which is crazy. But if you.

[Joe]

I've done that many times.

[Jack Armstrong]

But the idea of, like, investing two hours. What if I don't like this? Well, you know What? There are 15 other videos I can watch instead. There are 15 other people I could date, so I'm not gonna worry about. I'm gonna chuck this one without even thinking about it. Because there are other options.

[Joe]

Oof. Ephemeral. That's what it is. We're. We're drowning in ephemeral.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Wow.

[Joe]

That's pretty interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Naturally, TV shows and movies opt for cheap gimmicks to keep people watching. Take the execrable Netflix movie Happy Gilmore 2, which seems like it took as long to write as it does to watch, but features 72 celebrity cameos.

[Joe]

Oh, really? Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, let's begin the show.

[Joe]

I'm sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Begin the show. Let's wrap things up with a final thought from everybody on the crew, beginning with our technical director, Michelangelo Michael.

[Joe]

How things have changed.

[Jack Armstrong]

When I was younger, I could stay up all night. Yesterday, I went to an office party from 4pm till 6pm and I'm exhausted.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just sad. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, is very youthful. Katie, a final thought for us. We talked about that woman taking out billboards in the Bay Area for a husband. There is a section on here to apply on behalf of someone else. So I might sign one of you guys up for this, see how it comes out. Jack, final thought for us, speaking of.

[Joe]

Tv, it's funny how my son, like, he's run through everything current that you can watch. And so he's now on a house kick. He's watching all the episodes and seasons of house. He absolutely loves it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Huh. Interesting. Gosh. My final thought is I haven't seen Happy Gilmore 2. It sounds terrible and gimmicky and features lots of celebrity golfers in it. I just. Life's too short. Passing. Oh, by the way, in all other golf news as we speak these words, the Ryder cup is going on in and America is getting our ass handed to us by the Europeans on our home course.

[Joe]

With Trump there with Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump is going to have Pam Bondi prosecute these losing golfers.

[Joe]

Losers.

[Jack Armstrong]

We don't like losers.

[Joe]

Armstrong and Yeti wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So many people. Thanks. So little time. Thank you for being here. Drop in on armstrongandgetti.com would you please? Great Hop Links Katie's Corner. We've got some fine AMG swag. A funny ANG T shirt for your favorite ANG fan. Helps to keep everybody on the payroll too. And drop us a note mailbag armstrongetti.com.

[Joe]

Well, I'm sure something dang interesting will happen this weekend and we'll have it for you on Monday and all the different views of it and try to give you as fair a coverage of it as we possibly can. That's what we do all the time. See you Monday. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

There were so many great moments on today's Armstrong and Getty show, but perhaps.

[Joe]

Not as great as this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and it doesn't mean you're in favor of what's happening now, but a it's hard to take and B just the idea of a guy in, you know, a fist fight breaking out a knife and then the other guy breaks out a knife and the first guy says, sweet God in heaven, he's brought out a knife. Well, yes, yes, you did too. The Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time save 25% at LG.com with code fall25. Bring the boom XBoom.

[Cynthia Littleton]

There's a lot going on in Hollywood. How are you supposed to stay on top of it all? Variety has the solution. Take 20 minutes out of your day and listen to the new daily Variety podcast for breaking entertainment news and expert perspectives.

[Joe]

Where do you see the business actually heading?

[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The only constant in Hollywood is change.

[Cynthia Littleton]

Open your free iHeartradio app, search daily Variety and listen now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, come on.

[Cynthia Littleton]

Why is this taking so long?

[Jack Armstrong]

This thing is ancient.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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