You've Become Unmoored From Reality

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand - Episode Summary: "You've Become Unmoored From Reality"

Release Date: July 31, 2025

In this episode of the official Armstrong & Getty On Demand podcast by iHeartPodcasts, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve deep into the complexities surrounding the Gaza conflict, media portrayal, information warfare, and the broader geopolitical implications. Additionally, they explore a controversial advertisement linking modern marketing tactics to historical eugenics movements, among other pressing topics.

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1. Gaza Conflict and Media Portrayal

The conversation kicks off with a critical examination of the ongoing conflict in Gaza, focusing on how media imagery is shaping global perceptions.

• Impact of Media Images:

  Jack Armstrong highlights the power of potent images in swaying public opinion. He references heartbreaking photographs of malnourished children from Gaza, arguing that while these images elicit sympathy, they often strip away the complex context of the conflict.

  "The world sees a photo of a suffering child, assumes what news editors want them to assume, then shares it without asking questions." (04:56)

• Information Warfare:

  Joe Getty emphasizes the "information war" aspect, suggesting that narratives are being manipulated to influence international support and policies.

  "The information war is as important or maybe more important than the guns and guys shooting them war." (05:18)

2. Geopolitical Implications

The hosts discuss the shifting geopolitical landscape, especially in relation to Israel's political standing and international support.

• Statements from Geopolitical Analysts:

  Referencing Richard Haas, a geopolitical thinker, Armstrong and Getty explore how international public opinion is evolving against Israel's actions in Gaza.

  "Israel doesn't want to make itself the pariah... the world has grown weary with what Israel is doing in Gaza and increasingly opposes it." (11:16)

• Global Shifts in Support:

  They note that major global players like France, the UK, and Canada are signaling support for a Palestinian state, indicating a potential end to unconditional backing from traditional allies like the United States.

  "With Macron and Starmer in Great Britain and now Canada all coming out and saying, we are signing on to the idea of a Palestinian state." (12:22)

3. The Role of Images in Shaping Public Opinion

Drawing parallels with historical events, Armstrong and Getty underscore the enduring influence of powerful imagery.

• Historical Comparison:

  Comparing the Gaza situation to the Vietnam War, Jack points out how iconic photographs can catalyze public sentiment and policy changes.

  "The very famous picture from the Vietnam War that you've probably seen that played a major role in turning American opinion away from... that's completely opposite of the way it was portrayed." (09:37)

• Modern-Day Impact:

  The duo suggests that similar imagery from Gaza is being used to sway influential figures, including political leaders like former President Trump.

  "This guy's name is Richard Haas... after demanding unconditional surrender... we had to occupy those lands for decades." (20:20)

4. Eugenics and Controversial Advertising

Shifting gears, Armstrong and Getty critique a recent jeans advertisement that they argue echoes early 20th-century eugenics ideologies.

• Analysis of the Advertisement:

  They dissect the commercial's use of the phrase "good genes," linking it to historical movements that promoted racial purity and white supremacy.

  "Good genes is a eugenics term that literally gave us Hitler... it's an echo of the early 20th century in eugenics and white supremacy." (27:30)

• Cultural Implications:

  The hosts argue that such marketing tactics are not merely about selling products but are infusing subtle, harmful ideologies into mainstream culture.

  "It's about a cultural movement that now punishes beauty, shames femininity and exalts victimhood as the highest form of virtue." (30:04)

5. Additional Topics

While the primary focus remains on the Gaza conflict and media representation, Armstrong and Getty briefly touch upon other significant issues.

• Healthcare System Critique:

  Celebrating the 60th anniversary of Medicare and Medicaid, the hosts critique the systems' efficacy and financial sustainability.

  "Medicare and Medicaid since 1965, 60 years ago yesterday, $45 trillion with little evidence of any effectiveness for helping the situation for people in general." (44:53)

• Political Commentary:

  They discuss upcoming political moves, including Kamala Harris’s forthcoming book, speculating on her presidential aspirations.

  "According to the New York Times also, she thinks she didn't do enough interviews when she ran for president last time." (48:31)

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Conclusion

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty conclude the episode by reflecting on the broader themes of misinformation, media influence, and the challenges of discerning truth in a polarized world. They emphasize the importance of critical thinking and seeking multiple sources to navigate complex international issues.

"I'm sorry to hear that. Like, I thought when I first heard this blue jean thing... now I thought, okay, I'm untethered from reality." (34:38)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "The information war is as important or maybe more important than the guns and guys shooting them war." — Joe Getty (05:18)

• "Israel doesn't want to make itself the pariah... the world has grown weary with what Israel is doing in Gaza and increasingly opposes it." — Richard Haas (11:16)

• "The very famous picture from the Vietnam War... completely opposite of the way it was portrayed." — Jack Armstrong (09:37)

• "Good genes is a eugenics term that literally gave us Hitler... it's an echo of the early 20th century in eugenics and white supremacy." — Jack Armstrong (27:30)

• "Medicare and Medicaid since 1965... $45 trillion with little evidence of any effectiveness for helping the situation for people in general." — Joe Getty (44:53)

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This episode provides a critical lens on how media narratives shape international conflicts and societal issues, urging listeners to remain vigilant and informed amidst a sea of information and misinformation.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Pressure for a ceasefire and an end to the suffering in Gaza Growing the images shocking the world. The children of Gaza, skin and bone. Those scenes fueling the growing pressure to end the war.

[Joe Getty]

I wish I had a better handle on what is actually going on there. As I mentioned the other day, even NPR for the first time I've ever heard them gave some air to the Israeli side saying that look, we're, we're trying to hand out food. We're not, it's not us. There's not actually an attempt by us to keep people from eating. NPR said this cannot be validated or what is the word they always use verified by npr, but it's the first time they ever gave that any air, which to me meant they're not solid on what's actually happening either.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, given the fact that you could use that phrase for every statement Hamas makes in their health authority, it's unbelievable hypocrisy that they use it there. But you're right, that does show something somebody did. Headline, Wall Street Journal, Gaza Starvation Photos Tell a thousand lies.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I want to hear more of that because somebody texted the other day and I thought this was an interesting question and there might be an answer. You have seen a lot of really skinny kids that look like they're really, really hungry, but not adults. Why is that? I mean I obviously kids are more heart tugging pictures but are they're hungry adults also?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or. Yeah, I've seen some skinny adults, but I don't, I don't know. And, and where was that video taken and, and by whom? And did they choose the people in it and just. I don't know. It's an information war at this point clearly. And it's, it's notable click baity dishonesty in a lot of cases. I think that most news Outlets don't recognize that. I mean, you can arrive at whatever conclusion you want. Maybe you're like waving the flag in the streets and wearing a keffiyeh. But you have to admit the information war is as important or maybe more important than the guns and guys shooting them war.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, absolutely. It's more important in terms of, well, first of all, pushing Trump one direction or another on how much he's gonna stand by Israel and what they want to do, or I guess BB Netanyahu and what he wants to do or not. If Trump is swayed by the stuff he sees on tv, which this week it seemed like he is being swayed by those pictures on television. The problem I have, and I already said this earlier this week, so I'll make it short, but if your information is coming from Hamas, the conversation ends for me. Do you have any other source, do you have any source other than Hamas for what is happening?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a great question. Great follow up. That's the sort of question that an editor would ask as automatically as a reflex test. I mean, okay, you've. Wait a minute, your source is Hamas. You've got a lot more work to do. Let me know when you have something verifiable. They would say automatically for like, you know, the last century of quote, unquote journalism in America.

[Joe Getty]

So we have some analysis from a smart geopolitical thinker. But what is the Wall Street Journal's how did they come to the conclusion that the pictures of starving people tell a thousand lies?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's a, it's an editorial by a person, but he points out the infamous story of, of little Muhammad, the skin and bonesy guy who, whose picture was on the front page of the New York Times. Was that on Sunday? I'm not sure. And the New York Times has said, quote, it's since learned new information updated our story to add context about Muhammad's pre existing health problems. The poor little lad has cerebral palsy. Palsy, I think it is. And um. Yeah, and just anyway, but CNN briefly noted that he has a muscle disorder, but then stopped talking about it completely. Muhammad's isn't the only recent case of babies afflicted with terrible illnesses being exploited to promote a false narrative that Israel is intentionally starving gods and children. There was another viral photo of a different child whose first name is Osama. Interestingly enough, like Muhammad, Osama looked emaciated and critics claimed he too is starving due to Israel's actions. And the list, the number of people yet according to locals and the boy's mother to The Associated Press. The poor little lad suffers from cystic fibrosis, and Israel coordinated his evacuation to Italy in June along with his mother and brother, so he could get medical treatment. And he also mentions that there are tons and tons and tons and tons of food sitting there that the United nations is refusing to distribute for various political reasons. And it's just, it's all so confused. And, and he just echoes the point that as he summarizes instead the. And. And he lists a bunch of facts about how much humanitarian resistance or assistance is getting in the tons of supplies and all the complications. But these facts rarely break through the noise. Instead, the world sees a photo of a suffering child, assumes what news editors want them to assume, then shares it without asking questions. The contents the cont is stripped away. There is real suffering in Gaza, but when that suffering is exploited for propaganda and when humanitarian systems are paralyzed by politics and ideology, it is the most vulnerable, like young Muhammad, who pay the price.

[Joe Getty]

But man, pictures can move opinions. The very famous picture from the Vietnam War that you've probably seen that played a major role in turning American opinion away from. We were doing any good over there. Remember the, the picture of a soldier executing a guy in the street, gun to his head and him grimacing, which turned out to be the backstory. And that was completely opposite of the way it was portrayed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I was entirely justified. And then you combine that, though, with the poor little girl running naked from a napalm attack, and those two photographs may have been as significant as any 10 politician speeches.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, by far.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like all of the speeches.

[Joe Getty]

And so this photo was going to be, or maybe was one of those that probably what, it's probably what moved Trump because he's an old guy from New York. I guarantee you he gets a paper version of the New York Times. He saw that picture on the front page and was horrified by it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

This, this guy's name is Richard Haas. He used to run one of your super smart think tanks about international stuff. Pretty smart guy. Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don't. But he had these takes on the.

[Richard Haas]

Current situation, and what we're beginning to see is the change in international public thinking about Israel. And Israel has to be careful here in the United States. You do not want this issue of Israeli support to become a totally partisan issue. And second, more broadly, Israel doesn't want to make itself the pariah. And I think there's a warning here. And the real question is, will this reverberate in Israeli politics? So far or not. Not. But I think it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I thought that was interesting, that so far, domestically, in Israel, this hasn't become. They're not abandoning their current government strategy. They have.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are rumbles, more on that to come, but.

[Joe Getty]

But they're holding on so far. Anyway, he goes on to say, you're.

[Richard Haas]

Going to have a Palestinian state. No, that's not the way to do it. You want Palestinians to earn it. You want Palestinians to say, here's the conditions we're prepared to sign up to. They got to reassure Israel. At the end of the day, a Palestinian state cannot be imposed from the outside. So again, this is all signs that the world has grown weary with what Israel is doing in Gaza and increasingly opposes it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. With the Macron and Starmer in Great Britain and now Canada all coming out and saying, we are signing on to the idea of a Palestinian state. It's a gesture that we're done with supporting Israel, you know, giving them a blank check support along with the United States.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you could argue that's because they're getting too much heat because of the pictures and videos we were just talking about. Or they might just think, as one of my favorite writers does that, look, plan A for Israel is not going to work. They need a plan B.

[Joe Getty]

And then finally, this on Trump's role in the whole thing.

[Richard Haas]

But the president has political standing in Israel that even Bibi Netanyahu doesn't have. If the president wants to move the needle in Gaza, he can do it. He can put pressure on Israel not by declaring support for Palestinian state unconditionally, but by pushing the Israelis to come up with a day after plan to stop, you know, to open up the Gaza to food aid, to stop new settlements in the West Bank. There's a lot of things this president can do if he really wants to get serious about promoting positive movement between Israelis and Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. So far, he's been reluctant to do it. But the opportunity, some would argue the necessity. Necessity is there.

[Joe Getty]

What could the possible day after plan B. I understand the whole next day problem, which is often a problem. What, okay, you're going to invade the country, what are you going to do then? But in this case, I don't know. But we got to kill Hamas because they just, you know, came in and did the worst thing that's happened to us since the Holocaust. So we'll worry about that later. And they're still worrying about that later, I guess. But what, what are you possibly going to do? What are you going to do with that chunk of land and a couple of million people whose current government is Hamas. I mean, I can't even imagine what you do.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of my favorite writers sort of addressed that question and I've got a bit of a yin and yang for you. I suggest, humbly, that we take a break and finish the discussion in the next segment. Because this, this may be the ultimate, this whole situation is the ultimate, both are true situation. People argue as if, all right, October 7th happened, therefore Israel can do anything. Well, not really, as Richard Haas was talking about. Or, or people say the people in Gaza are suffering, look at the babies and they need food, therefore Israel should not do anything. That's not true either. So a little yin and yang for you. A little perspective coming up next.

[Joe Getty]

Sounds a little deep for me. I want to argue about that blue jeans commercial that's going to do that too later. Oh, we are.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a girl with girl with the big boobies in the blue jeans. Yeah, we'll do that.

[Joe Getty]

There's more on that story.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, so much more.

[Joe Getty]

Oh God. All right, stay here.

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This will be a good lead into Joe's dilemma about the problem in Gaza. This is breaking from the UN with the numbers up until the 29th, which two days ago the UN itself says that 87% of the over 2,000 food trucks going into Gaza were hijacked by armed groups. Hamas. That's from the UN's own website.

[Jack Armstrong]

Days after the New York Times cited two Israeli officials saying Hamas we have no evidence that Hamas steals the food information war misinformation war that you're right, that's the perfect lead in. So just a quick kind of sort of aside, it's there's a story in the Free Beacon about an organization, New York based charity, quote unquote called westpac, which has been supporting pro Palestinian, pro Hamas groups like crazy. Well, they're embroiled in a bunch of different lawsuits because they've been backing terrorists essentially, and a lot of the groups that they backed have sought other financial funding and I thought this was significant to bring up the Palestinian Youth Movement, which the Israeli government says maintains close ties with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terror group. It used to get its money through westpac but now they began they've gotten their donations via Honor the Earth, which is quote, an indigenous led organization fighting to dismantle settler colonialism, racial capitalism, white supremacy and imperialism. So if you've ever thought that when I'm talking about the permanent omnicause and how it's all tied to anti western civilization Marxism, there's some more proof for you. Why would a pro Palestinian group get all their funding from someone who wants to dismantle settler colonialism, racial capitalism, whatever the hell that is. White supremacy and imperialism. Okay, moving along. Bill Galston writes for the Wall Street Journal editorial page, among other things and, and his recent pieces Hamas will never surrender. And in the little time we have left, I'll just summarize. He quotes Lindsey Graham as saying, I think Israel's come to conclude that they can't achieve a goal of ending the war with Hamas that would be satisfactory to the safety of Israel. And they're going to do in Gaza what we did in Tokyo and Berlin. Obviously referring to World War II. But Galston points out the problem is that after demanding unconditional surrender and getting it through the use of force, we had to occupy those lands for decades. I mean we're still there honestly, but. And the idea of Israel doing that in Gaza is just not possible because there would be a hundred year long guerrilla war. He thinks.

[Joe Getty]

He also didn't have TikTok videos of what was going on in Berlin and Tokyo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Which might have changed the will of the west to impose that unconditional surrender. And he mentions the photos of the hungry children allegedly. And I'm sure there are hungry children. But the occupation of Gaza would likely prove untenable in the long term. It would exert huge pressure on Israel's reserve based military forces. The IDF would face a steady stream of cash casualties at the hands of fanatical guerrilla fighters. The parents of IDF soldiers in Gaza wouldn't tolerate this indefinitely. Neither would the broader Israeli public. And he mentions that public opinion shifting in Israel in January of 24. 51% of Israelis said bringing home hostages should be the main goal. 36% said toppling Hamas should be this April. 68% said it's about bringing back the hostages. Only 28% gave higher priority to the destruction of Hamas. So a very, very short summary of what he suggests is a regional coalition to maintain order in Gaza and finance its reconstruction and presumably keep Hamas from reasserting its control do.

[Joe Getty]

And who are these countries that are willing to sign on to that or have anybody talked to them?

[Jack Armstrong]

The countries in the region, Jack. A regional coalition?

[Joe Getty]

Has anybody asked them? And have they said yes?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that was a joke. Yeah, that's. Yeah, there are plenty of countries in the region and they got every reason to help, but they're like, no, no, we don't want any Palestinians in this country, please. And no, we have no help to offer.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole Muslim solidarity thing that you hear shouted so much in the Middle east is entirely to, to, to keep in check the domestic populations of uneducated religious fanatics. They're not gonna lift a finger. They might write a check, but it's phony.

[Joe Getty]

It's horrifying to me that Joe says there is another round of commentary on the whole blue jeans jeans white supremacy.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Sydney Sweeney backlash. Jack. That's correct.

[Joe Getty]

Eugenics commercial for Eagles Outfitters jeans white supremacy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Clearly.

[Joe Getty]

I can't believe there's more to that story. Oh my God. There's more to the Epstein story too. Once again I say, oh my God, there's a new thing on that. And other stuff too. Hope you can stay with us. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Gens are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color. My jeans are blue. Sydney Sweeney has great jeans. So is that just a hot chick laying in bed speaking just above a whisper, as if you're in bed with hair trying to sell jeans? Or is it something much, much darker upon good genes activates a troubling historical associations for this country. The eugenics movement in its prime between like 1900 and 1940 weaponized the idea of good genes.

[Joe Getty]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Jack Armstrong]

Justify white supremacism.

[Joe Getty]

Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking. First thing I thought when I heard about this jeans ad, which is it's. It's an echo of the early 20th century in eugenics and white supremacy. That's exactly right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh wait, I see a friend across the parking lot. Hey, hey. No, I'm waving. That's not a Nazis.

[Joe Getty]

And this is the number one story on the globe. There are young men in Ukraine fighting Russians in the trenches Talking about this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh Lord. Too much perspective. So this idiotic fake controversy which is great fun because it further unmasks the woke. Honestly that's one of the reasons I enjoy it.

[Joe Getty]

Comment on that. I'm glad you reminded me. Let me find that for when you're done.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, so a couple of things that I've really enjoyed. Number one, Jonah Goldberg, brilliant man, a fine writer, but he cannot tell you what time it is in less than 5,000 words. Is writing about this fake controversy and pointed out, as I did yesterday, that the whole eugenics movement was absolutely from the left, from the progressives of the 20th century. So please. And secondly, this, which I really enjoyed, I'm the pretext for the outrage. Apparently the phrase good genes is a eugenics term that literally gave us Hitler. And given the fact that Sydney Sweeney is a blue eyed blonde, the ad must be intended as a dog whistle or foghorn shouting Nazism is awesome. Yes, I'm sure that some 25 year old incel has laid down his tiki torch in his copy of Mein Kampf as he eased into his race car bed in his parents basement and asked an AI program to draw Sweeney in an SS uniform riding a winged horse like an updated Valkyrie in pursuit of Aryan onanism. The heart wants what the heart wants and all that.

[Joe Getty]

I've never understood these things just in general. Like the Elon waving to the crowd. Now that was clearly a, you know, a Nazi salute. Like it doesn't make sense to me. Just your point of view doesn't make sense to me. Like he's secretly signaling people's. I mean what was the goal? It just, I don't know. I've never quite understood it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and to not even enter into the discussion that. Well, I think he was just, just waving, you know, he, he extended his arm. Wave to me right now see that looks like a nut.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Nazi Germany. But what good would the secret signal do even if it were true?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right, I know, I know. And then C.J. pearson, I appreciate, appreciated this writing too in Fox News. Oh, and he quotes the, the university linking the good genes thing, uh, to uh, to the eugenics thing. Let's cut the nonsense. Progressive women aren't mad at Sydney Sweeney because she's setting women back. That's just the excuse they're throwing around because they don't want to admit the truth. They're mad because she's young, hot, white and blonde. And they're mad that corporations are finally waking up to the truth. That the American people are done with Woke, if she were £300 and identified as gender fluid, she'd be hailed as a revolutionary. If she threw her pronouns in any every interview, wore a feminist crop top to the red carpet and spouted progressive talking points on, they'd be tripping over themselves to give her a GLAAD award. But because Sydney Sweeney simply exists, confident, traditionally feminine, and not bending the knee to the WOKE agenda, she's a target. This isn't about feminism. It's about envy. It's about a cultural movement that now punishes beauty, shames femininity and exalts victimhood as the the highest form of virtue. Oh, and then the one more point. Where was all this feminist outrage when Dylan Mulvaney, a male, was handed women's brand endorsements by Nike, Bud Light, Maybelline for quote unquote celebrating womanhood? Where were these voices when Mulvaney mocked the female experience with Barbie cosplay and tampon tutorials? Nowhere. In fact, they were applauding because in today's WOKE dystopia, a man pretending to be a woman gets more respect than an actual woman who dares to look like one.

[Joe Getty]

That was pretty good. So Michael, I came across this and it almost sweet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I'm sorry I said I was done, but I'm not. Where are these self proclaimed champions of women's rights when actual female athletes, athletes were getting steamrolled by males in their own sports. When Lia Thomas was shoving real women off the podium, where was the outrage? Crickets. Because defending the rights of actual women doesn't fit the narrative. It's not politically useful. All right, now I'm done. Maybe.

[Joe Getty]

Probably so when I first read this, it kind of swayed me. But then I thought, but wait a second, somebody tweeted out, how do we address this is coming from a Democrat. How do we address the fact that Democrats apparently have to be accountable for the thoughts of every left of center social media account with more than a few hundred followers? They're talking about how it's just fringe weirdos that are worried about this, but now it the entire Democratic party is being painted with it. And this, this I'm guessing sort of mainstream ish Democrat is saying how do we get out of this situation? Right. Part of it though. You should blame that professor we played a few minutes ago. That's a professor talking about, well, her. The language she used Smacks of early 20th century Eugenics or white supremacy or whatever. That was from Good Morning America. That's a mainstream dominant media Democrat news outlet. They covered it so that's not just a wing nut with a couple hundred followers. Followers on Twitter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and if roughly the number. The same number of people who attended your local Little League game last night are marching through the streets of Charlottesville chanting, they will not replace us, Every Republican in the world is asked to explain that and account for it and deny association with it. So, yeah, what's good for sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I agree it's stupid, but you stop it, and we'll stop it.

[Joe Getty]

You lay down your arms.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. You first, because you've been doing it for 50 years.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pabs.

[Joe Getty]

Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry. I got a little fired up there. I used some really unhappy word letters.

[Joe Getty]

I. So we're gonna. We got some Epstein stuff, some actually new obscene stuff that we'll do in hour three. But that scandal, and this one, which I don't think ranks to be called a scandal, but I just.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't figure out what's real anymore.

[Joe Getty]

I feel like my sense of. Of figuring out is this a real thing or not, has been completely broken, like, in just the last month.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry to hear that.

[Joe Getty]

I can't figure out what. What. What actually is impacting people or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like, I thought, you've become unmoored from reality.

[Joe Getty]

Is that fair? Yes. Ever since I became untethered from reality, Doctor.

[Jack Armstrong]

My rabbit friend told me, jack, you need to get more rest.

[Joe Getty]

I used to feel like I had a good sense of that. But like, I thought when I first heard this blue jean thing, I thought, well, this is completely made up. It's probably even being pushed by Eagle outfitters. Is that the name of the Gene company?

[Jack Armstrong]

American Eagle.

[Joe Getty]

American Eagle. Okay. When I first heard this, I thought, well, this is one of those. It's.

[Jacob Goldstein]

It's.

[Joe Getty]

It's. It's like Abercrombie and Fitch used to do. They. They would purposefully start a controversy and everybody find about the new product. And I thought it was just one of those. And I thought, you know, ho hum. But then it was on Good Morning America being treated seriously by a college professor, and I thought, okay, I'm untethered from reality. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The only. I think you're right. First of all, you're 100% right in the first part. I think the significance of it is that America has gotten so tired of and pissed off by the woke agenda because you and me, you and I, Katie, most of us, we only felt the humiliation and the anger of being forced to sit through the woke training sessions by proxy through our listeners. And, but we, you know, I read had dozens, maybe hundreds of emails from people who had to sit there jaw clenched because their kids need their college money. And they couldn't argue, they couldn't even ask questions about at these sessions lest they be, you know, railroaded out of their jobs. And there is deep, deep, not to mention you saw your city burn during the George Floyd protests which were mostly peaceful and the only gatherings allowed during COVID By the way, you couldn't go to your blank in church, but you could burn down your local Target store in the name of George Floyd or something. And, and people are pissed. And this is another opportunity to now speak out and say, no, that garbage is not true. We don't believe it. They're not going to run our country. Amen. End of screed.

[Joe Getty]

So Tom Brady just said something interesting. Might have to get to that first. Tell you about this topic? No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh thank goodness. Because I thought that was a real nice cap to it.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

I'll have to dig up the actual quotes because I just saw them up on the television and just caught them a little bit out of context. But apparently Tom Brady, the football player was responding to that golfer. Best golfer in the world. You said. What's his name?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Scotty Scheffler.

[Joe Getty]

Who, who made the comments a couple of weeks ago we played all about how he, he just, you know, he doesn't get that much satisfaction out of winning golf family and that's all that really matters and blah blah blah. Apparently Tom Brady was asked about that. It was in a bit of a weird situation in that he may have lost his family over the fact that he prioritized sports over that. And I was just reading this quote up there and he said, I felt like I was doing, I was doing the right thing for my family, but by, by prioritizing my profession and becoming a teacher.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, increasing our net worth from $114 million to $121 million.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, a teacher. That's what you're doing. You were teaching younger quarterbacks how to quarterback and that was for your family somehow. Okay, I don't know. But apparently Gisele Bunchen did not feel the same way about it. Of course, who knows, you never know what the actual problem was, right? Couple of things that I want to get to Media coverage of the Russia hoax back in the day versus media coverage of Tulsi Gabbard's claim that it was all orchestrated. That's quite the stark difference. Also, we got the big anniversary this week. 60 year anniversary of Medicare and Medicaid. A quick look at how well that's worked out and a whole bunch of other stuff. I hope you can stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

What makes you think 3i Atlas could actually be an alien spacecraft? Well, moving on a very special trajectory that lines up with the orbit of the Earth around the sun. With that plane, it will get closest to the sun when we won't be able to see it because we will be exactly on the opposite side of the sun. It gets unusually close to all the inner planets with a likelihood of less than one part in 20,000. And moreover, it moves in the opposite direction to the motion of the earth around the sun. That basically prevents us from reaching it or intercepting it with any of our rockets.

[Joe Getty]

So that's a Harvard professor claiming something is alien spacecraft.

[Jack Armstrong]

It can't be a coincidence. It's it's orbit is designed purely to evade our detection of its actual purpose. And you know what it is?

[Joe Getty]

A Harvard professor says it's an alien spacecraft. Seems like that should have been the lead story to today.

[Jack Armstrong]

The is in my mind, in my.

[Joe Getty]

Heart, Culmination of the Fermi paradox of well, where is everybody then?

[Jack Armstrong]

3Ey Atlas is the name of it.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe we found some.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fermi was a crank.

[Joe Getty]

It was on yesterday, 60 years ago, that Lyndon Johnson signed Medicare and Medicaid into law. We're going to have our health care expert Craig Gotwell's on tomorrow to go through like the real stats on the whole thing. It's just ridiculous. It was, it was all intended to help a tiny slice of humanity in America that really needed help because they were so downtrodden. And now it's like practically everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of the great mission creeps in the history of entitlements. Oh yeah, really on earth.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Going through some of the stats I've got here from Sony who tweeted about it yesterday was thought it'd be worth pointing out in its first 10 years, Medicare had no discernible effect on elderly mortality. Doesn't mean it didn't help, but it doesn't. Certainly no proof that it did help. Since 1965, Medicare and Medicaid have spent how much money without substantial evidence of effectiveness? Like there's very little way to measure that it's done any good for anybody. $45 trillion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Medicare and Medicaid since 1965, 60 years ago yesterday, $45 trillion with little evidence of any effectiveness for helping the situation for people in general.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, and I don't know this, we're looking forward to talking to Craig, the health care guru about this in the next day or two to. I'm not an authority, but whenever you have the wrong solution to a problem in place for a very, very long time and spend a tremendous amount of money on it, the problem being, you know, people need medical care in some way, in some way shape or form and it's expensive. What do you do about it? But if you have the wrong solution in place for a very long time, what does that prevent folks or what does that remove the incentive to find obviously the right solution. So I would argue it's been worse than just a waste of money.

[Joe Getty]

Quoting a Wall Street Journal opinion piece. If Medicare and Medicaid were drugs, the US FDA would not approve them and would imprison their salesmen for claiming they saved lives.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I like that.

[Joe Getty]

Medicare and Medicaid spend about a trillion dollars a year currently. The best evidence suggests that one third of Medicare spending is pure waste. About a third. Absolutely unbelievable. And we'll have Craig on tomorrow to go through some more of the stats of what it was supposed to do and what it hasn't done and everything.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's ultimately amazing the moment Republicans suggest, hey, like healthy working age men who are on Medicaid for no reason, how about we make them, like try to work a little bit? The Democrats immediately go berserk and scream that they're going to. They're throwing blind children off of Medicaid out of cure pure wanton cruelty. That's how stupid our politics are. There is democracy doesn't work.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of stupid, there is a stupid essay in the New York Times today about screen time and attention spans and all that sort of stuff. It's very interesting though, the, the, the root conversation, their conclusion, as is often the case with progressives, is stupid about how it's another the rich taking advantage of the poor or something that they get to with screen time. But I do want to talk about that next hour because that's really, really good. What was the other thing that I wanted to jam in in? I know I had something. I don't remember. I'll think about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, Kamala Harris has got a book coming out which is proof positive. Proof positive that she's running for president because that's what you do. You put out a book so you can do the interview circuit and talk about how you're going to fix America and blah blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So given her intellect, I wonder, is it a coloring book?

[Joe Getty]

I know. I really look forward to the fact that according to the New York Times also, she, she thinks she didn't do enough interviews when she ran for president last time. So she's going to do a lot more. More podcasts and mainstream media interviews. Bring it on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can't tell you how much I love that idea, Kamala. I know it.

[Joe Getty]

Please do it. Some of the best things I've heard in a long time puts a skip in my step. We got a lot more on the way.

Armstrong and Getty.

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