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Jack Armstrong
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Michael
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Thanks dad.
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Michael
Be freaking kidding me. It's one more thing.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. One more thing.
Michael
Before I get to the you got to be freaking kidding me. I have a mole who works in government who regularly texts me things that get said at meetings. It's just unbelievable.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'll bet.
Michael
But I'll get to that in just a second. I mentioned this on the actual radio show, so I need to follow through the one time in my adult life when I nearly shared a bed with another man. Boy, I really need to set up onto this because it sounds like I'm. We got into the conversation about how women will share a bed in a hotel room. Like when they're on a girls trip, but guys don't. I would sleep in the bathtub with a pillow and, you know, my jacket for a blanket before I would do that. But one time, geez, many years ago I was in college. Thank you, Gladys. And we're in this house, there's like, I don't know, six, eight of us sleeping. Anyway, I'm on the floor in this room, hardwood floor. And it's freezing in there. I mean, it is freezing in there. But I had chosen the floor anyway due to sleeping in the bed at some point. Says like middle of the night. Like, you can sleep up here if you want to because it's so cold. And I thought, yeah, it is so cold. No big deal. I get up in bed, 20 seconds later, he grabs my crank.
Jack Armstrong
What?
Unnamed Male Guest
Come on.
Michael
I'm not. I'm not kidding at all. I'm not.
Jack Armstrong
That's what happens, Katie. That's what you cross the man line.
Michael
I'm not saying this always happens, but.
Jack Armstrong
Did you just call him Jussie Smollett? That is untoward.
Michael
I'm not saying this always happens, just usually, but the one time in my adult male life I think that I ever even attempted. Shared a bed with somebody, he did. He made a move.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Michael
Drunken in the middle of the night.
Unnamed Male Guest
Okay, well, no wonder. You would never.
Michael
I crawled back down to the floor. Never brought it up. Never mentioned it to him. He never mentioned to me. Just never. We never said anything about it again. That's the way we handled that.
Jack Armstrong
That's the right way to handle it. Wordlessly.
Unnamed Male Guest
God, guys are so weird. I totally. If that. If something like that had happened with me, it would be an absolute. What the f. Was that? The next morning you would.
Katie Green
Hell, yeah.
Michael
That's interesting also. Huh?
Unnamed Male Guest
What was that and why?
Jack Armstrong
Because I wanted to have sexual relations with you. Because. Because I was.
Michael
She'd say to you. Because I was seeing if you interested. Yeah. In. In some sort of sex With. With me as a dude. Yes, Michael.
Jack Armstrong
This was your broke back mountain, Jack.
Michael
And I went. It was my brokeback mountain, and I went the other direction.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Michael
Like, turns out I could quit him quite quickly. I went back down to the cold.
Jack Armstrong
Floor and you got to quit that.
Michael
Yeah. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
Michael
It worked out fine. It worked out fine. I never said anything. He never said anything. He made an overture, I made a response.
Unnamed Male Guest
Didn't work out fine for him.
Michael
It was. It was clear that I wasn't interested. And he thought, okay, thought maybe you might be. And that was fine after that.
Jack Armstrong
I remember the first time a guy hit on me. It was in a. A bar club. I was a college lad at the time, I think. And my only reaction was, I'm flattered. I'm like, oh, thanks, but, you know, I'm straight.
Michael
I was fine. I think I was more.
Jack Armstrong
He didn't grab my crank. He just made it clear that, hey, we should, you know, I think, like to get acquainted.
Michael
Yeah, I can understand why you'd be flattered, but I think mine was more of a middle of the night drunk, you know, better Better than nothing. Any port in a storm. I think that's what I was very.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, so you weren't worried about the gay part of it, you were just offended?
Michael
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
That he hadn't wooed you.
Michael
No flowers. No.
Jack Armstrong
There was no courtship whatsoever.
Unnamed Male Guest
Didn't take you to dinner.
Michael
This is animalistic. Yeah, no, I was the. Better than nothing.
Jack Armstrong
Now I get your objection.
Michael
I was. It's closing time. Let's look around and see what the options are. That's what I ended up being.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's just sad. You were like Arnold and the maid.
Michael
Arnold and. Oh, yes. Maybe. Maybe.
Jack Armstrong
You know what's interesting? It just popped into my head, sexual mores through the years. And I read John Lennon told a story. Is it yeah or no, no, I'm sorry. It was actually. It was a female music star woman of the same period, like the Beatles era. And. And I don't want to say the name because I don't want to get wrong, but she ended up somehow in a bed with John Lennon. And it was like a long party or whatever. Everybody was going to sleep and then just everybody would find a bed to flop in. And at one point he asked her and he used a very Liverpool accented F word. I don't want to create more word for more work for Hanson. But he said, would you like to blank? And she said, thanks, but not. Not really. I just want to go to sleep. And he said, oh, thank goodness, I've already been blanked tonight. But he just thought it would be ungentlemanly in the late 60s.
Michael
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Not to offer a coupling.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
The swinging 60s. Oh, boy.
Michael
Wow. That's something.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I remember. Similarly, there was a rock journalist who's talking about he had a very attractive wife and he would be at these, you know, big rock and roll star parties, again as the late 60s in Southern California. And he talked about Jim Morrison and other people hitting on his wife and. And wanting to have sex with her. And he felt kind of bad about saying, no, please don't have sex with him because, you know, we're married and everything. Because it was definitely, you know, an okay option.
Michael
Yeah, that's what it was. That's the way it was with George Harrison and Eric Clapton and the girl that is Layla from the Layla song, George Harrison's wife. Clapton talks about it in his book. George is like on board. Oh, yeah, that sounds cool. Go ahead. I would love that.
Katie Green
Yeah.
Michael
What? Yeah, if you had sex with my wife, you would love that.
Unnamed Male Guest
That's bizarre to me.
Jack Armstrong
Or what's going on still now.
Michael
Yeah, that's what I think. Anyway, so my deep mole in government sent this yesterday. I mentioned this one on the show already, that at the start of the meeting, a woman raised her hand and tearfully asked the speaker to stop saying you guys because it was gender hurtful. And so the speaker started saying y' all not to be offended.
Jack Armstrong
Dope.
Unnamed Male Guest
That's when you just end it right there. End meeting today.
Jack Armstrong
You. You're fired. Get out. Wait, what?
Joe Getty
Get out.
Michael
In government today, the government meeting, somebody raised their hand, said, are you receptive to some feedback on your t. Choice based on its environmental impact? Apparently, the tea being provided for the meeting had microplastics, so they wanted to.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's so precious.
Michael
Isn't that something we receptive to? Feedback on your teacher about the environmental impact of your tea choice. China deserves to take us over if that's what we are.
Jack Armstrong
Boy, I can't remember who it was. It was one of my favorite writers pointed out the other day that when King Chuck was in Canada and he was gonna. I think it was. He was addressing the parliament, but he kicked off his. His address with one of those idiotic declarations of. What do you call them?
Michael
Land acknowledgments.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, okay. And. And he said, enhance it. I am going to create a little work for you here. He said, first, I'd like to acknowledge that we are standing on the land once controlled by the Wachapoochee tribes and blah, blah, blah, and that we should seek full reconciliation in both word and deed.
Michael
Great Britain is doing this.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and. And I. I'd love to steal this line, but I won't. I'm paraphrasing, but as the guy pointed out, dude, you're literally the king of the country. If you wanted to give back that square mile, do it. Don't stand up there and say, oh, I would like to acknowledge you could give it back to him.
Michael
Well, stroke of a pen, and then. We're not into this sort of thing because, you know, whoever took it last has it, and that's the truth of every. Every square inch on planet Earth. Sure.
Jack Armstrong
Somebody else will have it in. In a year or a decade or a millennium.
Michael
It's.
Jack Armstrong
Wait, it'll happen.
Michael
Right. But the England's gonna go around the world doing that, man. They'd have to do that a lot. Sun never sets. Have you ever heard that? That whole thing? Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, no kidding. Well, if you want to win over Jack Armstrong, you gotta woo him first. Well, I guess that's it. And here we have a specimen from the early 2000s, a legacy investing platform. Please don't touch the exhibit folks. It could crash.
Joe Getty
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Michael
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Thanks dad.
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Jack Armstrong
This is an iHeart podcast.
Release Date: June 4, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong
Co-Host/Guest: Michael Getty
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts
The episode kicks off with Michael Getty sharing a personal and somewhat humorous anecdote about an uncomfortable encounter during his college years. He recounts a night when, due to a freezing environment, he chose to sleep on the hardwood floor instead of the bed. This decision led to an unexpected and unwelcome advance from a male roommate.
Michael Getty [02:35]: "It's the one time in my adult life when I nearly shared a bed with another man... He grabs my crank."
Jack Armstrong responds empathetically, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries without confrontation.
Jack Armstrong [03:17]: "That's the right way to handle it. Wordlessly."
Michael elaborates on how the situation was resolved without tension, highlighting mutual understanding and respect.
Michael Getty [04:19]: "We never said anything about it again. That's the way we handled that."
The conversation transitions into a broader discussion about changing sexual norms and behaviors over the years. Jack introduces a historical perspective by referencing John Lennon’s interactions during the Beatles era, illustrating how social dynamics and expectations around consent and courtship have evolved.
Jack Armstrong [06:45]: "...he used a very Liverpool accented F word... Would you like to [blank]? And she said, thanks, but not really. I just want to go to sleep."
Michael compares historical anecdotes with modern-day scenarios, reflecting on the persistent nature of certain social behaviors despite shifts in cultural attitudes.
Michael Getty [07:19]: "That's the way it was with George Harrison and Eric Clapton and the girl that is Layla from the Layla song... Clapton talks about it in his book."
Shifting gears, Michael brings up a current issue within government circles regarding political correctness. He describes a situation where a woman in a government meeting raised concerns about gendered language, specifically the use of "you guys," and the speaker's dismissive response.
Michael Getty [07:38]: "...a woman raised her hand and tearfully asked the speaker to stop saying 'you guys' because it was gender hurtful."
The discussion highlights the tension between fostering inclusive language and the perception of overreach in professional settings. Jack and Michael debate the effectiveness and sincerity of such initiatives, with Michael expressing skepticism about the government's handling of minor issues versus more significant problems.
Jack Armstrong [08:04]: "Dope."
Michael Getty [08:48]: "...China deserves to take us over if that's what we are."
Towards the latter part of the episode, Jack shares insights from a favorite writer about the responsibilities of leadership, referencing King Charles's land acknowledgments in Canada. This segues into a critique of performative gestures versus meaningful actions in addressing historical injustices.
Jack Armstrong [09:07]: "...you are literally the king of the country. If you wanted to give back that square mile, do it."
Michael concurs, emphasizing the futility of symbolic acts without tangible restitution.
Michael Getty [10:06]: "Sure. Somebody else will have it in a year or a decade or a millennium."
The hosts reflect on the cyclical nature of power dynamics and territorial claims, questioning the effectiveness of current approaches to reconciliation and restitution.
As the episode wraps up, Jack humorously ties the discussion back to contemporary financial platforms, using metaphorical language to underscore the complexities and antiquated systems still in place.
Jack Armstrong [10:20]: "If you want to win over Jack Armstrong, you gotta woo him first."
The episode concludes with a light-hearted nod to outdated investing platforms, reinforcing the theme of navigating old systems in a modern context.
In "You've Got To Be Freakin' Kiddin' Me!," Armstrong and Getty navigate a blend of personal anecdotes, historical references, and contemporary social issues. They delve into the nuances of personal boundaries, the evolution of sexual norms, and the challenges of political correctness in professional environments. Through candid conversations and relatable stories, the hosts provoke thoughtful reflections on how societal changes impact interpersonal interactions and institutional behaviors. The episode underscores the importance of respect, authenticity, and meaningful action in both personal relationships and broader societal structures.
For those who haven't tuned in yet, "You've Got To Be Freakin' Kiddin' Me!" offers a blend of humor, insight, and candid discussion that encapsulates the essence of the Armstrong & Getty Show. Whether you're navigating personal boundaries or pondering the complexities of modern social norms, this episode provides a relatable and engaging conversation worth listening to.