In this episode of the Around The Coin Podcast, host Stephen Sargeant is joined by Rick Harmsen, CTO of DataExpert, to compare key takeaways from two conferences happening at the same time: Chainalysis Links in New York and ECC in Cannes. They discuss the growing convergence of AI, regulation, tokenization, stablecoins, and compliance across both developer and blockchain analytics communities, including how DeFi protocols are increasingly “front-running” regulation by building compliance programs early. Rick shares insights on Chainalysis’ new AI investigation product, the importance of data transparency, and the risks of over-relying on AI without investigative skill. They also cover investigation costs, side-event culture, law enforcement request verification, and preview DataExpert’s upcoming Digital Experience event in Stockholm bringing together law enforcement and private-sector investigators.

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