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A (0:00)
I have been a Presbyterian minister for 25 years.
B (0:04)
As a Presbyterian pastor, Zach Wilson doesn't have to wear all that priest stuff.
A (0:09)
Protestant churches are much less uniform obviously than Roman Catholic churches.
B (0:15)
Doesn't have to wear the cassock or the chasuble or the stole. Nothing's required.
A (0:19)
I would wear a collared shirt with a tie most of the time. Not always a tie, but for the most part because I like ties.
B (0:27)
And then how often would you wear the collar?
A (0:29)
Never.
B (0:30)
Really?
A (0:31)
No. I hate to say this, but like I didn't want to be seen as that because people have their feelings about what religion is. People project things on you. I never wore. No, I never wore a collar till this.
B (0:43)
And by this, Pastor Zach means when Immigration and Customs Enforcement took over his city.
A (0:50)
I'm the co executive presbyter of the presbytery of the Twin Cities area here in Minnesota. So, you know, we had one church who had a Sudanese refugee family and their 22 year old son was abducted and spirited off to Texas within hours. And he was legal. The presbytery kicked in ten grand and we were able to get him back. Right.
B (1:13)
Amazing.
A (1:14)
But most people cannot marshal those sorts of resources. And there's a lot of making sure people have money to do deliveries to people's homes because people are kind of shut in.
B (1:25)
Why can't people leave their homes?
A (1:27)
Because brown people are just being picked up. And even if you're a native born American, if you have brown skin, it doesn't feel safe. The school district has started allowing distance learning for kids who don't feel safe. And so this has done what it's supposed to do, which is terrorize people and make them afraid of going about their business.
B (1:48)
And you're wearing your collar right now?
