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Episode: The Five Types of Wealth Everyone Needs with Sahil Bloom

Date: December 23, 2025
Host: Emma Grede
Guest: Sahil Bloom

Overview

In this enlightening episode, Emma Grede sits down with Sahil Bloom—author of the bestselling book The Five Types of Wealth—to unpack a holistic new vision of success and wealth. Bloom, once a fast-rising star in finance, details his journey from chasing society’s traditional scorecard to discovering a richer, more meaningful framework for life. The conversation ranges from practical methods for self-reflection and growth to stories of family, purpose, health, and happiness—revealing the five key areas of wealth that form a truly successful and vibrant life.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Trap of Conventional Success

• Chasing Standard Success: Sahil describes spending the first 30 years of his life pursuing society’s standard metrics—elite education, lucrative jobs, external approval.

  “I was winning the game in the traditional definition of it, but 2020 came around and I started having this sensation that if that was what winning felt like, I had to be playing the wrong game.” — Sahil (06:38)

• Personal Backstory: Grew up with “real pressure” from high-achieving parents and developed an inner story of not being “the smart one.”

• Turning Point: The COVID-19 pandemic forced him to slow down and notice cracks in his life—struggling relationships, distance from family, health issues, and a sense of emptiness despite outward "success."

2. The Life-Changing Conversation ([09:11])

• Confronting Mortality: A friend quantified for Sahil how little time he had left with his parents (“If you see them once a year and they’re 65, you’ll see them 15 more times before they die”).
• Immediate Action: Within 45 days, Sahil and his wife left California, quit his job, and moved closer to both their families.

  “We had taken an action and created time for the things that we really care about. And anyone can do that.” — Sahil (17:39)

3. Redefining Wealth: The Five Types

• The Five Types of Wealth ([26:18]):

  • Time Wealth: Freedom in how, where, and with whom you spend your time.
  • Social Wealth: Quality of relationships and human connection.
  • Mental Wealth: Purpose, growth, and internal fulfillment.
  • Physical Wealth: Health and vitality.
  • Financial Wealth: Money as an enabler, not the end goal.

• Research & Wisdom: Insight sourced from thousands of conversations with people aged 13 to 100+ (27:33), revealing time, people, purpose, and health as what truly endures.

4. Deep Dives into Each Wealth Type

A. Financial Wealth ([18:28])

• Concept of “Enough” and Expectations:

  “Expectations are your single greatest financial liability.” — Sahil (18:28)

  • Chasing ever-higher goals leads to dissatisfaction.
  • Appreciation for what present self has previously wished for is essential.

• Building Financial Wealth: ([29:51])
  Three Pillars:

  1. Income generation (cash in)
  2. Expense management (cash out)
  3. Investment for the long term
  • The gap between income and expenses, compounded over time, is true wealth creation.

• Cultural & Practical Barriers:

  • Sahil affirms anyone can build some financial wealth with discipline, though acknowledges systemic hurdles for some.

B. Time Wealth ([44:27])

• Valuing Time Over Money:
  The Warren Buffett Dilemma—no one would trade youth for billions and old age.

  “Your time has quite literally incalculable value. And yet on a daily basis, how much of it are we wasting?” — Sahil (45:34)

• Energy Management (Energy Calendar) ([46:16]):

  • Color-code daily tasks: green (energy-creating), yellow (neutral), red (energy-draining).
  • Make small tweaks (e.g., walking meetings) to turn draining tasks into energizing ones.

C. Social Wealth ([57:49])

• Investment Mindset:

  “Your social connections, your relationships are the best investment that you can make.” — Sahil (59:12)

  • Compounding small actions (texts, calls) builds relationship wealth.
  • Social connections, shown in Harvard’s 85-year study, are the greatest predictor of later-life health.

• Quality over Quantity:

  • “Most people are going to have less than five true deep friends... That’s perfectly fine.” — Sahil (67:00)

• Modern Loneliness Epidemic ([64:17]):

  • Sahil recounts his grandmother’s decline after losing daily in-person social interactions during COVID-19 lockdowns.
  • Real-life relationships are built face-to-face.

D. Mental Wealth ([67:37])

• Carving Your Own Path:

  • The worst fate is living a “good path that isn’t yours.”

  “It’s the challenging questions that you’re avoiding—that is where the answers you seek in life are found.” — Sahil (74:35)

  • Encourages listeners to spend small amounts of time exploring unlived dreams or alternative futures.

• Purpose and Longevity:

  • People with clear purpose live longer, healthier lives.

E. Physical Wealth ([70:27])

• Simplicity Over Hype:

  “Being healthy…is basically three things. Move your body for 30 minutes a day, eat whole unprocessed foods at about 80% of your meals…and sleep for seven hours a night. If you can do those three, that’s it.” — Sahil (71:36)

  • Rejects overcomplicated, market-driven fitness advice.
  • “Do the basics” before getting caught in advanced protocols.

5. Practical Life Strategies

• The 1-1-1 Method (Gratitude Practice) ([21:11]):
  • Every night, jot down: one win, one worry, and one thing you're grateful for.
  • “It helps me go to sleep for sure… And the gratitude piece is scientifically proven to improve your happiness and mental well being.” — Sahil (21:40)
• Managing Work-Life Presence ([56:31]):
  • “Work life balance is a lie.” Instead, integrate family into your overall mission and life design.
  • Model hard work and purpose for your children through lived example, not lectures.
• Periodic Self-Audit ([51:24]):
  • Professional time falls into management, creation, consumption, and ideation; most people neglect the ‘ideation’ space.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Regret and Time (09:55):
  “You never think about time in just how quantified, how countable it really is in the moments that we have with these people.” — Sahil

• On Life Change (11:53):
  “Within 45 days, we had made a dramatic change. I had left my job, we had sold our house in California, and we had moved 3,000 miles to live closer to both of our sets of parents.” — Sahil

• On Awareness (20:27):
  “How many of the things that your younger self prayed for have become things that your current self complains about?” — Sahil

• On Defining Wealth (33:44):
  “My definition of wealth is being able to take my son in the pool at 1pm on a Tuesday… That captures basically everything that I want.” — Sahil

• On Social Media (22:11):
  “Tiny actions compound. Anything above zero compounds in your life. It doesn't have to be optimal for it to be beneficial.” — Sahil

• On Relationships (51:04):
  “Most of your friends aren't really your friends. They are just along for the ride when it's fun, convenient, or valuable.” — Sahil

• On Teaching Children (78:07):
  “I do not believe you can teach your kids anything. I really believe you have to embody the things that you want them to learn.” — Sahil

• On Asking Hard Questions (74:35):
  “The answers you seek in life are found in the questions that you avoid.” — Sahil

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Sahil’s Backstory & Conventional Success: 04:10–07:55
• Life-Changing Conversation about Parents & Time: 09:11–11:53
• Defining the Five Types of Wealth: 26:18–26:54
• Balancing Financial Ambition & “Enough”: 18:28–21:40, 29:51–34:25
• Tactical Life Design, Taking Leaps of Faith: 13:53–16:23
• The 1-1-1 Nightly Method: 21:11–22:11
• Energy Calendar Exercise: 46:16–47:47
• Quality vs. Quantity in Social Wealth: 66:32–67:25
• Core Physical Health Principles: 71:36–74:13
• On Modeling for Children: 78:07–78:56

Actionable Wisdom & Takeaways

• Define your own version of wealth and success.
• Audit your time, energy, and relationships regularly.
• Practice daily gratitude with small, consistent actions.
• Build a life design—don’t just drift with default expectations.
• Prioritize in-person relationships; they are essential to long-term health and happiness.
• Tackle big questions and life's “hard asks;” avoid autopilot living.
• Balance across the five types will fluctuate—embrace seasons and adjust accordingly.

Conclusion

Sahil’s journey and Emma’s probing questions deliver a powerful, relatable message: Wealth is multidimensional, and anyone—by questioning inherited narratives and taking small, intentional actions—can build a truly rich, vibrant, and meaningful life.