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Before we begin today's episode of Australian True Crime, I want to tell you about a new project we've been working on behind the scenes. It's called she Matters. It's a new podcast from award winning journalist and femicide researcher Sherrelle Moody. Each week, Sherrelle speaks with families of women and children killed in Australia, sharing who they were, the joy they brought, and the love they left behind. She Matters isn't a true crime podcast, but it's about lives lived, lives loved, and lives lost. She Matters is produced by Dash Made Podcasts in association with bravecasting Media. She Matters is available wherever you get your podcasts.
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This week we travel back to July 22, 1999, when every American news program was focused on the murder of Joey Armstrong. Not only because of its brutality. 24 hours after her death, police were yet to locate her head. And not because it occurred in one of their most famous and wholesome locations, Yosemite national park, but because she was the fourth woman to be murdered there that year. Yosemite, it seemed, had been the hunting ground of a serial killer for at least six months.
Then suddenly, just 48 hours after Joey Armstrong's murder, the FBI announced it had a suspect in custody and a confession. Today, on Burden of Proof, the FBI says it has a confession from a gunman suspected of beheading a Yosemite park employee, is 37 year old Carrie Stayner, also a suspect in last February's triple homicide in the National Park?
On the 14th of February 1999, 42 year old Carol Sund, her 15 year old daughter Julie and their 16 year old exchange student Silvina Pelosi from Argentina checked into Cedar Lodge just inside Yosemite National Park. They were driving a rented Pontiac around California checking out colleges. But Carol decided they were too close to Yosemite not to stop for a couple of nights so that Sylvina could experience its natural wonders for herself. They spent the following day hiking and ice skating, and that night they had dinner in the lodge restaurant and rented a video Jerry Maguire from reception and went back to their room to watch it together. That was the last time anyone saw them alive.
For 10 days, Rangers and volunteers searched the park for Carol and the girls and for the car. But when her wallet turned up in the city of Modesto, a two hour drive away. It became clear that this was no hiking accident. The FBI took charge and began hinting that they were no longer treating this as a missing persons case, but as a likely homicide.
As the weather in Yosemite warmed over the following weeks, tourist numbers increased and in mid March, a hiker stumbled upon the burnt out Pontiac near a speck on the map called Sierra Village. Investigators found the remains of two people in the boot of the car.
Dental records reveal the bodies in the Pontiac to be those of Carol Sund and Sylvina Pelosi. Carol's daughter Julie was still missing.
Shortly after the news of the discovery became public, a rough hand drawn map arrived in the mail at the FBI's Modesto office. The map would lead detectives to the location of 15 year old Julie Son's body. The only message from the sender was a few words scrawled above the map that read, we had fun with this one.
The FBI recovered Julie's remains in the spot the map led them to. Judging by the location of the Pontiac, the skilful execution of the abduction, the and even the confidence of the map, they gathered their culprit was a local, or at least someone with good working knowledge of the local area. Four men were considered the top suspects by the end of June, although none had been charged, all were in custody. There were a further seven people the police were keeping a close eye on.
By July, the park was in full swing for peak summer season and the terrible events of February were fading into the past thanks to the swift action of the FBI.
Park rangers weren't unduly concerned when they received a call from a man in San Francisco asking them to check on his friend Joey. He'd expected her to arrive for a short stay the afternoon before, but she never showed up or called and he'd been unable to reach her at the green cabin. The rangers called over to her office at Yosemite Institute and her workmates confirmed that yes, she had been planning to head to San Francisco the evening before after work, but they hadn't heard from her since. When the rangers arrived at Joey's green cabin in the big meadow, they found her car parked out front, packed up for her trip. But Joey wasn't inside or anywhere to be found. They searched around the cabin and the nearby campground before finally reaching the freshwater stream. It was there that they found her decapitated body. Some 24 hours later, they located her head further downstream as Yosemite and the nearby communities locked down in panic, police received an early tip. Another park employee drove past Joey's cabin on the day she was murdered and saw a car parked out front that he didn't recognise. Something about it made him uneasy and he made a note of the make and model of the car. It was a pale blue 1999 International Scout SUV.
A record search for that vehicle type turned up only two registered to owners in the area. A BOLO or be on the lookout alert was issued and police set out to find and speak to both owners. Within hours, a patrol observed one of the two cars they were looking for parked on the side of the highway by an embankment that led down to a river. The officers made their way down, hoping to find the owner of the vehicle, and ran into 37 year old Carrie Stayner laying out on a rock in the sunshine, completely naked, smoking a joint. Carrie leapt to his feet, covered himself and made his apologies. And the officers asked him some basic questions about his identity. When they learned he was Carrie Stayner, the handyman from the Cedar Lodge, who'd already been interviewed about the first murders along with the other staff, they let him go.
It seems ridiculous to us now, but Carrie and his family were very well known in the area. I believe the officer's knowledge of his family background had a lot to do with them letting him go in that moment. Carrie was clearly rattled, though. He went back to the Cedar Lodge where he lived in an apartment above the restaurant. He hastily packed a bag and he hit the road. Cary drove north in the direction of Sacramento. But just after nightfall, he pulled off the highway and checked into the famous Laguna del Sol nudist colony. He rented a tent and tried to lay low.
The FBI, meanwhile, was catching up. They searched Cary's apartment that afternoon as he drove away and found evidence that led them to believe that he was indeed their man. They released his description to the media in time for the nightly news, and the management of Laguna del Sol Nuda's colony made contact immediately.
FBI agents Jeff Rinnick and John Bowles were dispatched to the Laguna Del Sol colony to arrest Carrie Stayner that night. They agree that Stayner was cooperative when approached and readily agreed to leave with them. Not only that, when they arrived back at the field office, he opened up to them almost immediately.
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Carrie told the agents how he'd been driving by Joey's cabin when he saw the petite young woman packing her car. Strapping over six feet tall and handsome, Carrie was confident he could approach and then easily overpower her. He drove right up to her house and started talking to her. Within minutes, though, he pulled out his gun and ordered her inside, where he bound Joey's hands and mouth with duct tape. Stayner then marched Joey out to his truck. He told the agents he was intending to drive her to another location where he would rape and murder her. But as he started driving, Joey dove headfirst out of the car window and started running for her life. Stayner said he quickly caught her and dragged her into the woods, but she was kicking and fighting so hard he gave up on the idea of raping her. Instead, he pulled a knife from his backpack and slit her throat.
Joey, he said, kept fighting, trying to pin her chin to her chest to stop him cutting her.
Eventually, in his words, she went limp. He dragged her down towards the stream and finished what he'd started.
Carrie Stainer had decided to rape and murder his girlfriend and her young daughters on the night before Valentine's Day, 1999. But his plan was ruined when a friend of hers came to visit. Frustrated, Stayner stumbled on his eventual victims, Carol and Julie Sund and Silvina Pelosi. The night after Valentine's Day, February 15, while he was wandering the darkest reaches of Cedar Lodge's car park with his backpack.
It was what we in Australia would call a motor inn. Guests parked their cars right outside their rooms and the door to every room opened right onto the parking lot. Beside the door was a large window. Carol, Julie and Sylvina ended up in a room at the far end of the rear wing. It was described by a former employee as the dark corner of the lodge. He said there was a red car in the lot all by itself. The curtain was open and I could see inside there was two young women and a mother, no man.
Carrie knocked on the door. He told Carol he was the lodger's maintenance man and there seemed to be a leak in the neighbouring room that he needed to access from their bathroom. Carol told him politely but firmly that no, he could not come into the room there and then to work in their bathroom. The girls were in their pyjamas, she said, ready for bed, and he'd have to deal with it in the morning. Carrie persisted and somehow convinced protective Carol that it was an emergency and that he had to at least check their bathroom for their own sake. As soon as he was inside the room, Stayner produced his gun and locked the two teenagers in the bathroom. He quickly subdued and strangled Carol Sund and carried her body out to the boot of the rented Pontiac.
He returned to the room and ordered Sylvina Pelosi out of the bathroom. He raped and then strangled her before carrying her body out and placing it in the boot of the car with Carol's body.
Stayner then ordered Julie Sund out of the bathroom. He raped Julie and then bound her hands with duct tape, wrapped her in a blanket and ordered her out to the passenger seat of the Pontiac.
He told her that her mother and her friend were safely locked in another room of the hotel, but that they, he and Julie were going to get out of there.
Early the following morning, Cary called a cab from a payphone in Sierra Village. It took him back to Cedar Lodge and back to his life.
Of course, Cary's confessions were just between him and the agents, especially his disclosures about the first three murders. They had to be investigated and corroborated. The last thing the FBI needed was the media getting hold of that kind of information before they'd had a chance to verify it and speak to the families. But an ambitious local reporter called Ted Rollins recognised a potential opportunity for himself in Carrie Stayner's arrest and decided to try his luck. He could never have guessed how lucky he was going to be or that he was about to blow the story wide open by unlocking the detail that everyone else was overlooking in their frenzied obsession with the gruesome details of the murders.
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I was told that Kerry Stayner has been arrested, that he would be taken to the jurisdiction closest to Yosemite.
My feeling was he might not have a lawyer yet. So I went to the jail and then I asked for an interview.
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Within minutes, I'm face to face with Carrie Stayner.
But they don't allow any recording devices. So the jailer grabs these quarter sheets of paper and hands them to me. And I wrote just little phrases to remind me of what he was saying. Oh, and this is the condition. It says, condition major Los Angeles Movie of the Week. He said, before I say anything, I want you to contact producers in Los Angeles because he wants a Movie of the Week made about his story. And after I somewhat agreed to it, said, I'll do what I can, he kind of just took a deep breath. All right, here we go. I wrote down, I am guilty. I did murder Carol's son, Julie's son. Sylvina Peloso and Joey Armstrong. Full confession.
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Carrie pleaded guilty to Joey Armstrong's murder. During the sentencing hearing, Carrie stunned the courtroom when he suddenly broke down in tears and apologised. I wish I could take it back, but I can't. He said. I wish I could tell you why I did such a thing, but I don't even know myself. I'm so sorry. I wish there was a reason why, but there isn't. It's senseless.
Lesley Armstrong, Joey's mother, started crying as she listened to Carrie, and she said afterward that she believed his apology was genuine.
Carrie Stayner was sentenced to life in prison without parole for Joey Armstrong's murder. He pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the murders of Carol Sund, Julie Sund, and Sylvina Pelosi. Carrie's lawyers claimed that the Stayner family had a history of sexual abuse and mental illness. He was nevertheless found sane and convicted of three counts of first degree murder and one count of kidnapping. Carrie Stayner was sentenced to death on August 27, 2002 and remains on death row at San Quentin State Prison in California.
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Date: December 10, 2025
Host: Bravecasting
Main Narrator: Meshel Laurie
This episode of Australian True Crime, narrated by Meshel Laurie, ventures beyond Australian borders to revisit one of America’s most shocking crime sprees: the Yosemite Serial Killer case involving Cary Stayner. Laurie dives into the murders of four women in Yosemite National Park in 1999—a case that horrified the U.S. and shocked investigators with its brutality, complexity, and twisted aftermath. The podcast blends the facts of the case with vivid narrative storytelling, briefly highlights the role of the FBI, addresses the psychological motives of Stayner, and finishes with the impact on victims' families and Stayner’s sentencing.
July 1999:
Break in the Case:
“It seems ridiculous to us now, but Cary and his family were very well known in the area. I believe the officer's knowledge of his family background had a lot to do with them letting him go in that moment.” (09:46)
Stayner Flees and Is Found:
“She was kicking and fighting so hard he gave up on the idea of raping her. Instead, he pulled a knife from his backpack and slit her throat.” (14:15)
“He said, before I say anything, I want you to contact producers in Los Angeles because he wants a Movie of the Week made about his story...I wrote down, 'I am guilty. I did murder Carol Sund, Julie Sund, Sylvina Pelosso and Joey Armstrong. Full confession.'” – Ted Rollins (18:29–19:24)
“I wish I could take it back, but I can’t. I wish I could tell you why I did such a thing, but I don’t even know myself. I’m so sorry. I wish there was a reason why, but there isn’t. It’s senseless.” – Cary Stayner (19:55)
On the calculated nature of the killer:
“Judging by the location of the Pontiac, the skillful execution of the abduction, the and even the confidence of the map, they gathered their culprit was a local, or at least someone with good working knowledge of the local area.” (06:42)
Stayner’s odd behavior at arrest:
“Officers made their way down, hoping to find the owner…and ran into 37 year old Cary Stayner laying out on a rock in the sunshine, completely naked, smoking a joint. Carrie leapt to his feet, covered himself and made his apologies.” (08:50)
Reporter Ted Rollins and the confession twist:
“He wants a Movie of the Week made about his story...I wrote down, 'I am guilty. I did murder Carol Sund, Julie Sund, Sylvina Pelosso and Joey Armstrong.' Full confession.” (18:29–19:24)
Stayner’s inability to explain himself:
“I wish I could take it back, but I can't. I wish I could tell you why I did such a thing, but I don't even know myself. I'm so sorry. I wish there was a reason why, but there isn't. It's senseless.” (19:55)
This episode provides a chilling, meticulously detailed journey through the Yosemite Serial Killer case, highlighting both the investigation’s complexity and the stunning speed with which Stayner confessed. Meshel Laurie maintains empathy for the victims, while the “twist” in the case’s coverage—Stayner’s own narcissistic motivations and the reporter’s opportunistic catch—adds a tragicomic undercurrent to the dark tale. Through this story, the episode not only explores the mechanics of a serial killer case but also subtly interrogates the nature of evil and the sometimes arbitrary ways justice arrives.