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AI DevOps Podcast
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The AI DevOps Podcast is a show for those shipping software using AI, .NET, Azure, and DevOps. Each show brings you hard-hitting interviews with industry experts, innovating better methods, and sharing success stories. Sponsoring the podcast is Clear Measure, a software architecture and engineering firm that implements AI to empower software teams to establish quality, achieve stability, and increase speed. Hosted by CTO & Chairman, Jeffrey Palermo.
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J. Tower: A.I. Workflows - Episode 404
2d ago00:36:32Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Jonathan Tower — known to friends and colleagues simply as "J." — is the founding partner of Trailhead Technology Partners, a custom software consulting firm with employees across the U.S., Europe, and South America. A 12-time Microsoft MVP for .NET and a Telerik Developer Expert, J. brings nearly 25 years of industry experience spanning roles from senior architect to director of development. He was recently elected to the .NET Foundation Board of Directors for the 2026–2027 term and is the driving force behind Beer City Code, Western Michigan's largest professional software conference. J. is also a LinkedIn Learning course author and an active speaker at software conferences around the world; including being a speaker at the most recent .NET Conf. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jtower/ Website - https://www.jtower.com/ Trailhead Technology Website - https://trailheadtechnology.com/ Trailhead Technology Events - https://trailheadtechnology.com/events Trailhead Technology Blogs - https://trailheadtechnology.com/blog Beer City Code- https://beercitycode.com/ Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 371 - Software Leadership with Jonathan "J." Tower https://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/software-leadership-with-jonathan-j-tower-episode-371 Episode 263 - J. Tower: Modernization Strangler Fig Pattern https://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/j-tower-modernization-strangler-fig-pattern-episode-263 ---------------------------------------- Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Ryan Riley: Development Process using AI - Episode 403
1w ago00:48:47Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Ryan Riley is a Senior Lead Software Engineer at Quorum Software in Houston, TX, with deep expertise in functional programming, software architecture, and web API design across the .NET ecosystem. He is a Microsoft Visual F# MVP and longtime open-source contributor, best known for his work on projects such as Frank, WebApiContrib, and the Open Web Interface for .NET (OWIN) specification. Ryan leads the Community for F# virtual user group and is an active blogger, having recently published a thought-provoking piece in March 2026 examining AI-assisted spec-driven development and its relationship to Agile and historical software practices. He brings a thoughtful, systems-level perspective to software engineering leadership, mentoring, and team-building that spans front-end UX through back-end distributed applications. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley/ GitHub: https://github.com/panesofglass Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/panesofglass Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Ryan Riley: Leading a Software Engineering Team - Episode 316 (September 23, 2024) The Power of 10 Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_10:_Rules_for_Developing_Safety-Critical_CodeDevelopment Process using AI Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Gaurav Seth: Leading in the AI World - Episode 402
2w ago00:44:49Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Today I've have Gaurav Seth with us — he's a product executive at Microsoft working on fundamentally redefining how software gets built and scaled. He's been bringing agentic AI into every stage of the develop‑deploy‑operate cycle, both for Microsoft's internal engineering teams and for developers building on the platform. He's hands-on building AI agents into GitHub Copilot and Visual Studio, working on evaluation systems that improve model quality, and shaping core platforms that power Azure, Microsoft 365, Windows, Xbox, and LinkedIn. Right now, he's focused on some of the hardest problems in the industry — what it looks like to move from manual to AI-driven development, how to measure and improve agent performance at scale, how to make massive codebases understandable to LLMs, and what the future of developer workflows looks like in an agent-first world. Before this, he helped lead some major shifts — from Edge's move to Chromium, to scaling TypeScript into one of the most widely used languages in the world, to evolving Visual Studio's business model and growing .NET in a crowded market. He operates end-to-end — from product strategy and engineering to go-to-market, partnerships, and enterprise adoption — and has a unique ability to connect deep technical innovation with real-world impact. Mentioned in this Episode LinkedIn X / Twitter .NET Blog (author page) Foundry Local: Onyx w/ Ollama VSCode Agent Pane Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Stephen Cleary: Asynchronous Software - Episode 401
3w ago00:34:10Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Stephen Cleary is a software developer, author, and independent consultant with deep expertise in asynchronous and concurrent programming in .NET. He is the author of "Concurrency in C# Cookbook" (O'Reilly, 2nd edition), the definitive practical reference on async, parallel, reactive, and multithreaded programming in C#. Stephen is one of the top-ranked users on Stack Overflow, widely recognized for his authoritative answers on async/await, and he has published extensively on the subject through MSDN Magazine, conference talks, and his long-running blog. His most recent blog post, "Debug Dumps in Visual Studio," was published in December 2025 and continues his tradition of sharing hard-won, practical knowledge with the .NET community. Website: https://stephencleary.com Blog: https://blog.stephencleary.com Book: https://stephencleary.com/book/ GitHub: https://github.com/StephenCleary Twitter/X: https://x.com/astevecleary Github - Comparers Nuget - Nito Comparers Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Tim Corey: Learning AI Architecture - Episode 400
May 400:41:09Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Tim Corey is an nine-time Microsoft MVP, a software developer with more than 30 years of experience, and one of the most recognized online educators in the .NET ecosystem. DevForge at IAmTimCorey.com -- has helped millions of developers learn to think and code like professionals. He is the author of Getting Started with C#: A Practical Guide, the creator of the popular C# Mastercourse, and the host of the DevQuestions podcast, now in its seventh season. Tim learned software development the hard way so his students don't have to -- and he is a returning guest, having joined us previously on Episode 241. Previous appearance(s) on the Azure DevOps Podcast: Episode 241: Tim Corey: Learning Programming (Apr 17, 2023) Website: https://www.iamtimcorey.com/ Blog: https://blog.iamtimcorey.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamtimcorey/ Twitter / X: https://x.com/IAmTimCorey GitHub: https://github.com/TimCorey YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IAmTimCorey Podcast: https://iamtimcorey.buzzsprout.com/ Recent projects / posts: - Course: Upgrading to .NET 10 From Start to Finish https://www.iamtimcorey.com/courses/upgrading-to-dotnet-10/ - Course: C# Mastercourse https://www.iamtimcorey.com/courses/csharp-mastercourse/ - Game Development Mastercourse (preorder) https://gamedevelopmentmastercourse.com/ - Blog: "Does Vibe Coding Have A Place In Software Development?" (May 2025) - Blog: "What Microsoft Choosing Go over C# Can Teach Us" (Apr 2025) - Blog: "Can AI Do a Developer's Job?" (Mar 2025) - DevQuestions Podcast Ep. 299: "Why is the job market slowing down?" (Mar 5, 2026) Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Chet Husk: .NET Tooling - Episode 399
Apr 2700:43:05Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Chet Husk is a Product Manager on the .NET Tools team at Microsoft, where he leads the .NET SDK, MSBuild, Template Engine, and Install Scripts teams -- shaping how millions of .NET developers build, publish, and containerize their applications. Before joining Microsoft in 2021, Chet was deeply embedded in the F# open-source community, serving on the F# Software Foundation Board and co-maintaining Ionide, the popular F# extension for VS Code. At Microsoft, he drove the built-in container publishing support that lets developers create container images with just "dotnet publish" -- no Dockerfile required -- and recently shipped SLNX, the new XML-based solution file format for the .NET CLI. He is also exploring the intersection of AI and build tooling with an open-source MCP server that lets AI assistants analyze MSBuild binary logs. Mentioned in this Episode GitHub LinkedIn .NET Blog Recent projects / posts Blog: "Introducing support for SLNX, a new, simpler solution file format in the .NET CLI" (Mar 2025, .NET Blog) mcp-binlog-tool: MCP server for AI-assisted MSBuild binary log analysis Blog: "Announcing built-in container support for the .NET SDK" (.NET Blog) .NET Conf 2023 talk: ".NET Containers advancements in .NET 8" .NET Conf 2022 Keynote presenter SLNGEN .NET Tool /dotnet/skills GitHub repo structed nuget package - devlooped EBNF Grammar (Extended Backus–Naur Form) https://msbuildlog.com/ https://github.com/devlooped/StructId \Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Pierce Boggan: AI Workflows - Episode 398
Apr 2000:38:38Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Pierce Boggan is the PM Lead for Visual Studio Code and GitHub Copilot at Microsoft, where he guides the product direction of the world's most popular code editor as it evolves into an AI-native development platform. He joined Microsoft through the Xamarin acquisition more than a decade ago and has worked across mobile tools, Visual Studio, and the Teams Toolkit before taking the helm of the VS Code team in late 2024. Pierce co-hosts the VS Code Insiders Podcast, presented in the GitHub Universe 2025 keynote, and recently helped his team make the historic shift from monthly to weekly releases -- powered by AI. He is also the creator of Primer, an open-source CLI that prepares codebases for AI-assisted development. -------------------------------------------- Mentioned in This Episode Website Twitter / X GitHub Podcast Primer Recent projects / posts: Agent HQ in VS Code announced (Dec 2025) -- unified view for managing local, background, and cloud AI agents GitHub Universe 2025 keynote presenter (Nov 2025) VS Code Insiders Podcast: "VS Code -- 2025 Wrapped" (Dec 2025) Primer CLI -- prepares repos for AI-assisted development (423 stars) nano-banana-mcp -- MCP server enabling image creation in GitHub Copilot VS Code team moved from monthly to weekly releases (Mar 2026 interview) ---------------------------------------- Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Michael Perry: AI-assisted Development - Episode 397
Apr 1300:37:50Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Michael Perry is a Director at Improving Enterprises and a self-described "Software Mathematician" who has spent his career applying mathematical principles to software development, drawing on the foundational work of thinkers like Bertrand Meyer, James Rumbaugh, and Donald Knuth. He is the author of "The Art of Immutable Architecture" and the creator and maintainer of Jinaga, an open-source immutable runtime framework for building collaborative and distributed applications in .NET and JavaScript. A former seven-year Microsoft MVP, Michael has produced multiple Pluralsight courses covering CQRS, XAML Patterns, Cryptography, and Provable Code,and is a frequent speaker at developer conferences across the country. At Improving, he helps enterprise clients harness the power of immutable architecture and software mathematics to build scalable, robust systems. Mentioned in this Episode LinkedIn Twitter / X (@michaellperry) GitHub Personal Site FactoryEngineering.dev roocode - plugin for VSCode - has subagents Windsurf (AI Tool) Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Aaron Stannard: Software 2.0 using AI - Episode 396
Apr 600:50:52Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Aaron Stannard is the Founder and CEO of Petabridge and the co-founder and lead maintainer of Akka.NET — the most widely used actor model framework for .NET, with over 21 million NuGet downloads and adoption by Fortune 500 companies like Boeing, Bank of America, and S&P Global. A two-time startup founder, Aaron previously founded MarkedUp Analytics and worked at Microsoft as a Startup Developer Evangelist before dedicating himself full-time to building the Akka.NET ecosystem. He's a Vanderbilt University graduate, a former Microsoft MVP, and has spoken at major conferences worldwide including NDC, Techorama, QCon, and .NET Conf. Beyond Akka.NET, Aaron is known for creating NBench (a .NET performance benchmarking framework), the Sdkbin marketplace for .NET developers, and for his prolific blog and YouTube content on distributed systems, .NET internals, and software engineering philosophy. Mentioned in this Episode Episode 172 Software 2.0 Case Study LinkedIn Twitter / X - (@Aaronontheweb) GitHub Personal Blog YouTube (Personal) openclaw simon Crop - verify library SlopWatch - detect reward hacking behavior Opus 4.6 & Sonnet 4.6 Copilot OpenCode Claude Code Codex 5.3 model for debugging Qwen2.5 27B llama.cpp local. tmux - Terminal multiplexer suo apt install -y tmux Ralph LLM loop Akka.NET StirTrek, May 1 in Ohio NDC Copenhagen in June Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
Transcribe →Mads Torgersen: Talking AI - Episode 395
Mar 3000:37:46Tap to summarizehttps://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Mads is a Principal Architect at Microsoft, where he has been for over 20 years. He's been the Lead Designer of the C# language for a long time. Prior to this, Mads was a professor and contributed to a language starting with J. He was previously on episode 325 of the podcast where he spoke about the latest on C# at the time. Mentioned in this Episode Github Link - C# Episode 325 Learn C# Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.
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