In this episode, Erin sits down with Don Barden—a globally recognized expert in leadership and decision-making with a PhD in organizational leadership and behavioral economics—to explore the research behind his latest book, Here Come the Girls.

Don makes a bold declaration: by 2028, the scales of leadership will tip, with women leading the way. But can the data back it up? Erin and Don discuss the systemic barriers, cultural shifts, and surprising factors influencing women’s roles in leadership—and dig into whether women even want to occupy those top spots.

This isn’t an episode packed with immediate action steps—it’s a thought-provoking conversation designed to explore where we can begin.

There’s some pushback, some probing, and a lot to reflect on as we tackle how individuals like us can drive meaningful change. If you’re ready to challenge assumptions and spark new ideas, this is the episode for you.

Here Comes the Girls book

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Tweetable Comments

“ I always knew that education was the only way for me to break the binds of the past.”
”Women outproduced men in equal business environments, three to one. It's not just in revenue and profits it’s in everything.”
”Women are better at helping their teammates work through critical problem solving issues on their own.”

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