Getting Messy with Bob the Drag Queen

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Baby, This is Keke Palmer

Episode: Getting Messy with Bob the Drag Queen
Host: Keke Palmer
Guest: Bob the Drag Queen
Date: December 16, 2025

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Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Keke Palmer sits down with Bob the Drag Queen—Peabody winner, comedian, podcast host, bestselling novelist, and Drag Race royalty. They dive into everything from polyamorous relationships and queer culture's influence on pop, to the power of maternal support, iconic celebrity feuds, and the nuances of inspiration versus appropriation. This is a fast-paced, unfiltered conversation brimming with laughter, poignant moments, and Pop Culture Realness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Upbringing & Early Connections

• Name Stories & Roots (01:27)
  • Keke reveals her middle name is Keyanna, almost named Keke after her sister’s suggestion.
  • Keke: “My parents thought that's too much. That's not a real name. So they named me Little Kiana Katu.”
• Where They’re From (01:52)
  • Bob is from Chicago, Keke from Atlanta/Clayton County.

2. Drag Race, Legendary, and Pop Culture Crossovers

• Shared History & Legendary (02:32)
  • Discuss meeting on “Legendary” and bemoan its cancellation.
  • Law Roach and Drag Race's impact discussed.
• Breastfeeding Banter (03:24)
  • Both delight in discussing the experience and flavor of breast milk.
  • Keke: “It tastes like cereal milk.” (03:29)
  • Examination of breast milk’s changing taste and its benefits.

3. Relationships & Polyamory

• Bob’s Polyamorous Life (05:50)
  • Bob explains his two partners, one of whom is primary, and how boundaries define “cheating.”
  • “Cheating is defined by the parameters you set for each other.” (06:14)
• On One Person “Completing” You (07:25)
  • Bob: “How the hell can one person be everything to you? That's why we have friends, families, mentors, therapists.” (07:44)
  • They discuss societal pressures for Black cis women to be monogamous and the rarity of public polyamory among such women.
• Famous Polyamorous Figures (08:28)
  • Monique cited as famously open, with Keke noting, “People try to come for Monique, but she's living her truth.”

4. Sexual Liberation and Double Standards

• Submission as Empowerment (09:22)
  • Keke and Bob unpack perceptions of sexual submission and how it’s more policed for women.
  • Bob: “If Sabrina Carpenter wants to get her hair pulled, let this woman get her… if she want.”
• Madonna’s Iconic Defiance (10:11)
  • Madonna releasing her own nudes to take control of her narrative.
  • Bob: “She monetized it. She released her own nudes. And she still was taken serious as an artist.” (11:32)

5. Appropriation, Appreciation & Pop Culture

• Madonna, Michelle Visage, and Ballroom (13:25)
  • Bob retells Michelle Visage’s story about Madonna co-opting her look from the Latex Ball.
  • Deep-dive into the blurry lines between inspiration and appropriation.
• Major Celebrities & Drag Inspiration (14:52, 18:40)
  • Bob openly speculates on whether Beyoncé’s houndstooth era was inspired by his own look.
  • “Why couldn't I inspire Beyoncé?... Her creative director does follow me on Instagram.” (18:47)
• Credit Where It’s Due (20:34)
  • Importance of acknowledging references, as seen in Sia crediting Nina West.
  • Bob: “There's nothing wrong with pulling references… but what is the proper way to make sure you're not erasing?” (20:34)
• Pop Music Fandom Rivalries (24:33)
  • Bob’s theory: “The only people who are actually against Beyoncé or Taylor Swift are the Swifties and the Hive. Only the Swifties are against Beyoncé. Only the Beehive is against the Swifties.” (25:27)

6. The Reality and Complexity of Counterculture

• Mainstreaming vs. Gatekeeping (23:28)
  • Bob: “Some folks are gonna love it, some folks are gonna hate it. You can’t win.”
• What Happens When Pop Borrows from the Underground?
  • Some view it as visibility and new opportunities, others resent the exposure or co-opting.

7. Celebrity Banter & Music Love

• Fandoms & Their Stereotypes (24:44–27:45)
  • Lively, tongue-in-cheek dissection of the Beehive, Navy, Lambs, Swifties, Monsters, and Animals (Kesha fans).
  • Keke: “Now the lambs will gaslight you.”
• Musical Preferences (27:30)
  • Bob adores Kesha’s new independence and Mariah Carey’s pen game.
  • “No one writes pop music like Mariah Carey. There's a reason why she has more number one hits than any woman.” (28:09)

8. The Traitors Experience & Grief

• Bob’s Traitors Journey, Amidst Loss (29:03)
  • Bob recounts filming “The Traitors” just weeks after his mother’s death.
  • “I was having panic attacks… It was really rough.” (29:03)
• Coping Through Challenge
  • Immersing in the game provided temporary relief from grief.

9. Candid Reflections on Family & Confidence

• The Power of a Mother’s Love (54:06)
  • Bob traces his confidence to his late mother Martha, a queer woman who owned a drag bar.
  • “The love of your mother can get you to the highest of highs.” (54:06)
  • “My mother would call me, minimum once a month just to pick up the phone, and she'd go, ‘I just want you to know you're funnier than Bianca Del Rio.’” (55:26)

10. Career Highlights

• Bestselling Novel & Production Company (48:41–52:55)
  • Bob celebrates his novel, Harriet Tubman Live in Concert, becoming a NYT bestseller.
  • “I made it on that list. I wish my mom could have been there for this.” (49:22)
  • Bob shares insights into Harriet Tubman's under-recognized achievements and launches Purse First Studios for queer creators.

11. Impersonations & Playfulness

• Snatch Game Energy (56:04+)
  • Bob and Keke riff on impressions of icons like Whoopi Goldberg, Barack Obama, and Alan Cumming.
  • Bob: “I'm not good at impersonations. But I am obsessed with doing them.” (56:04)

12. Theater Kids as Pop Stars

• Discussion: Why Theatrical Backgrounds Breed Pop Greatness (60:21)
  • List includes Nicki Minaj, Gaga, Madonna, Ariana.
  • “Theater kids make the best pop stars…” (60:21)
• Love for Ice Cream & Product Placement (63:08)
  • Fun tangent on branded products like Vaseline and favorite ice creams (“Ben & Jerry’s Chubby Hubby”).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Polyamory

  "Cheating is defined by the parameters you set for each other."
  — Bob (06:14)

• On Relationships

  “How the hell can one person be everything to you? That's why we have friends, families, mentors, therapists.”
  — Bob (07:44)

• On Appropriation vs. Appreciation

  “There's nothing wrong with pulling references from pop culture or from subculture or from counterculture. … But what is the proper way to make sure that you're not a part of erasure?”
  — Keke (20:34)

• Bob’s Mom on Confidence

  “My mother believed that the sun rose when I woke up and it set when I went to sleep.”
  — Bob (55:26)

• Pop Fan Rivalries

  “The only people who are actually against Beyoncé or Taylor Swift are the Swifties and the Hive. Only the Swifties are against Beyoncé. Only the Beehive is against the Swifties.”
  — Bob (25:27)

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Important Timestamps

• Background & Name Stories: 01:27–02:03
• Legendary & Meeting Each Other: 02:32–03:04
• Breast Milk Banter: 03:24–04:34
• Polyamory & Relationships: 05:50–08:28
• Sexual Liberation: 09:22–11:32
• Ballroom, Pop Culture, and Appropriation: 13:25–23:28
• Fan Fandoms Banter: 24:33–28:09
• Traitors & Grief: 29:03–31:29
• Mother’s Influence: 53:06–55:26
• Career Highlights: 48:41–52:55
• Impersonation Game: 56:04–61:11
• Theater Kids as Pop Stars: 60:21–61:11

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Tone and Vibe

The episode is fast-paced, uninhibited, playful, and deeply authentic—intertwining humor and realness. Both Keke and Bob are unafraid to get “messy” on life, love, identity, and pop culture. Their rapport is marked by mutual admiration, plenty of pop references, and genuine vulnerability.

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Final Thoughts

From candor about grief, to sharp social criticism, to hilarious observations about pop diva fandoms—Keke and Bob deliver an episode that balances heart and laughs. Bob’s personal journey is a testament to the impact of maternal love, queer perseverance, and redefining what it means to make culture. And as Keke says, “Let’s be like Bob—always bold, honest, and always evolving.”

Transcript

[A]

Wondrous.

[B]

From stirring the pot as a traitor in the turret to becoming a New York Times bestselling author with his debut novel, Bob the Drag Queen knows how to create a moment. He's a Peabody winner, comedian, podcast host, and the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 8. Today, he joins me to talk about everything. A little trader's tea, polyamory, growing up with a queer mom in the south, and more. Buckle up, y', all. Cause we're going there. Let's start the show. No matter what we doing in the car. Just chilling, pop on Amazon music, sit back and listen. Life, love, sex, science, covering it all, especially the bad. Cause money always revolves. No matter what it is? We gonna make it make sense? Nothing else to do but kick it with the homies and kings. So grab you a drink and a snack, you enjoy? And get into the vibe that only one you know it's your girl, baby, this is. This is Kiki, baby. This is Kiki Palma. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Tis the holiday season, y'. All. From spacious retreats in dream locations to their guests favorite most loved homes. Perfect for family gatherings. Airbnb has amazing stays for every festive escape. Now, let's start the show. Hi.

[A]

Hi.

[B]

Bo.

[A]

You have a middle name?

[B]

Yes, my first name is Lauren. My middle name is Keyanna.

[A]

Oh, so keys for the middle name?

[B]

Yes. That's kind of like. My sister wanted my name to be Keke, but my parents thought that's too much. That's not a real name. So they named me Little Kiana Katu. Isn't that crazy? They was trying to make me ready for assimilation.

[A]

You sound very like, oh, dear Lord and Kiana. Parliament of the Palmer Estate. Oh, dear. Of course, the Parliament is known for.

[B]

We need the estate.

[A]

Prestigious. Where you from?

[B]

I'm from the Midwest. I'm from Chicago. South suburbs.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Where you from? You from the South?

[A]

I'm from Atlanta.

[B]

Oh. Period.

[A]

Do I sound Southern?

[B]

Mm, it's a slight faint, but it's not giving. I don't really for Atlanta like that.

[A]

Yeah, no, no, you don't go that far. My brother sound like that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where'd you go to school?

[A]

Clayton County. I went to Morrow High School in Clayton county, period. Lot of Clayton county people. Walka walka flame.

[B]

Yes. I mean, Atlanta.

[A]

Bubba Sparks.

[B]

Very popular for putting the culture on at any given moment in time in any field.

[A]

Clayton county people do not give Clayton county the credit she deserves.

[B]

Isn't that where Latto's from too Latto.

[A]

Yeah. People ask me, did you go to school with Latto? I said, Latto is 22 years old. I assure you, we didn't go to school. The.

[B]

I'm howling. Well, last time I seen you and the first time we met was on the legendary show. Legendary. That's no longer. Which is what the hell?

[A]

And it go. Yanked it off the air. Can't even go find it. You gotta pirate it.

[B]

That's correct.

[A]

And not that you should pirate it, but if you do, you go to website call. No, I'm just kidding.

[B]

Www.blah blah, blah. Yeah, I had fun on that show.

[A]

It was very, very fun. And, you know, now Law Wrocho over at Drag Race.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, I live for Law. We just had him on the show not too long ago. You done Drag Race with respect to the law? Um, yes.

[A]

Gang. Gang. Which episode did you do you remember.

[B]

The episode that I did? I mean, how could I really remember?

[A]

She don't even remember you queens. You know, you're not even memorable.

[B]

Oh, you know, you so damn wrong. You so wrong. This was right after the baby. So I was like, you know, after you have a baby, you be like.

[A]

You had the snap back.

[B]

Okay, honey, you better work that. Breastfeeding will really suck you dry.

[A]

I drank some breast milk yesterday.

[B]

What did you think?

[A]

It's sweet.

[B]

It's very sweet.

[A]

It tastes like cereal milk.

[B]

If they would let us sell our breast milk, do you know how rich women would be?

[A]

You can sell it. You know, bodybuilders drink breast milk, but.

[B]

They do it, like, under the table. If we could have a corporate breast.

[A]

Milk down, I would drink it from the tap. Okay, Bring one of them titties over here. Let me have a. I want it.

[B]

Straight from the titties.

[A]

Right, chair?

[B]

I want a bite. Right, chair?

[A]

Yeah. My friend Amber, she was breastfeeding. Cause she's overproducers.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

What a don. She has to donate it. She has, like, so she has. Every two hours, she attaches the gadgets to the titties. And then all the friends were around, and then I was like, what does it taste like? And she poured me a.

[B]

And I poured you a glass.

[A]

She poured me a glass and I drank it. It was warm, it was fresh, and it just tastes kind of like creamer or. Or. Yeah, it's not. It really don't taste as nasty. I think it did.

[B]

No, it definitely doesn't taste nasty at all. I mean, I've tasted my own breast milk, and it. It's very sweet. It is. It changes over the course of how your baby gets older, though. Like, it'll get thicker or to get thick, you know, based off your baby's needs.

[A]

And it's also. It's not weird because, like, it's weirder that we drink cow's milk than it is we drink breast milk from a human being.

[B]

That's why I said they let us. If they let us sell it, we'd be rich.

[A]

Is it like, calm? Does it change with what you eat and stuff or how it works?

[B]

I felt like when I had dairy. My son has a dairy allergy.

[A]

I also, I realized I just jumped in with a calm question. That's crazy. You know, calm changes based on, like, how you. If you're eating and what you're eating.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's the same.

[A]

So you know, boom, gotcha.

[B]

So you know, boom, gotcha. I mean, one can only assume, but yeah. No, it definitely changes with your diet. Whenever I had dairy, my son even reacted like, I could see, like, little. Them little baby pimples popping up and stuff like that. So you do. And you have to eat a lot.

[A]

How old is your son?

[B]

He's two now. Child.

[A]

Wow, that's amazing. Congratulations.

[B]

Thank you so much. Do you want kids?

[A]

I do want kids. And that changed for me like a couple years ago. Like, I didn't want kids, and then now I do. I just really want a kid. Low key, but low key, though.

[B]

How old are you?

[A]

I'm a cancer on society, you know, I'm a cancer. I'm a Jew in cancer.

[B]

You get me? Like, where's your rising?

[A]

I don't know. I don't know. My big three.

[B]

But why would you sit up here and do me like that? I just knew you knew.

[A]

Whatever makes you confrontational and not open to criticism.

[B]

But wait a minute. Speaking of the kids you speak about, you're in polyamorous relationship or you prefer. I don't know if you're single now. Are you single?

[A]

No, I'm not single. I have two partners. Yeah.

[B]

Period. So how does that work? If you, like, shout out to my.

[A]

Babies, you know who you are?

[B]

Shout out to his babies.

[A]

And it's just two of you, I swear. And if anyone else claiming they lying, they lying.

[B]

Okay, wait, so tell me how this works with. So in a polyamorous relationship, what is cheating defined by actually? I mean, what it would be defined for anybody else?

[A]

Yeah, I think in any relationship, cheating is defined by the. What's the parameters, y'?

[B]

All Upset?

[A]

Yeah. The parameters you set for each other. So if you're in an open relationship, not a poly, but if you're an open relationship, then some people are like, well, just tell me. I just wanna know when. Or some people are like, I don't wanna know anything. Some people are like, if you use protection, if you have them in the house, if you break the parameters and the guidelines that you set for yourself, then I would consider that cheating. Mm. And so one of my partners has a partner. My other partner doesn't have a partner. I live with one of my partners. I don't. Well, I'm gonna be me and the other one, we're gonna be moving together pretty soon. But as of right now, maybe by the time y' all watching this, me and my other partner live together and.

[B]

So when did you know that polyamory was more of a fit for you? Like, had you been in a bunch of monogamous relationships that didn't work or.

[A]

Well, I don't know. What's a bunch of relationships? I've only been. I've had. That's a very good question. I've had five partners my whole life, and my first partner is still my partner.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. So the other ones, where I have been, like, kind of coming and going, but Jacob. Me and Jacob been together for, like, eight years now.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. And Jacob, as you changed and evolved as a person and decided to try different things, Jacob was evolving with you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that was beautiful.

[A]

But we started off open, so that wasn't really part of, like, our. We were never, like, monogamous.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Are you monogamous? That's not my business.

[B]

No. You can ask me. So the reason why I'm asked while I'm interested in this, because there was a statement that you had said, I don't know who you were talking to, that led into you wanting to be in polyamorous relationships where you were just kind of like, I don't believe one person could be everything to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I feel that that's actually how. Whether you're polyamorous or whether you're monogamous, that's how you should be thinking.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Because how the hell can one person be everything to you? That's why we have friends, families, mentors, therapists.

[A]

Whoopi Goldberg wrote a book called if he says he completes you, run.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I think I am not what the way I think about relationships. I don't know how normal or non normal it is, but I Feel like I don't expect you to do everything for me. I don't expect for you to fulfill all my needs. I expect you to fulfill what I'm asking for you to and what you're capable of as a partner and what that then leads to. We can continue to add on or take away. We don't have to live together. We could. We could also have separate rooms. You know, like, I feel like I'm very earned. Non traditional. But I've never tried a polyamorous relationship or even open.

[A]

I feel like black CIS women are not allowed to be open.

[B]

You know, they would just.

[A]

So Monique is famously open.

[B]

Oh, yes. I remember Monique would talk about that, and they would literally try to get on her, and she was like, I love y'. All. For real.

[A]

Yeah. Monique is famously open. And everyone's, like, being like, it's because you're a man. You can't say. And I was like, that's not even what. Or I think that I might even be making this up. But I feel like at some point, Lizzo. And seeingway that she was open with her current partner, I might have made that up. But I feel like I heard it somewhere.

[B]

I remember Monique talked about it, and then she was. And then she's. And I don't wanna get her wrong. So if I'm wrong, guys, if we not getting you right, Monique, comment below. Yeah, comment below.

[A]

Monique, I know you watch this.

[B]

She was like. She was. And then her husband, her now husband. Daddy was like, I'm cool with it until.

[A]

I love that she calls him Daddy. That's so. That's so. And he's her manager. She'd be like, well, Daddy said this contract is wrong. Ooh, that's so fierce.

[B]

You have me falling over.

[A]

Daddy said no, and Daddy's in the corner.

[B]

Like, could you do. Do you think you could be on that type of tip? Cause when I hear. I agree with you of that. It does feel. But am I gonna be looking to.

[A]

Him and saying, d. Well, I had a daddy relationship. I was a daddy in the relationship. So I've had a relationship where I was called Daddy, and I like it. I feel like, if anyone. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone who wants to be submissive. I think there's this big conversation now about how people aren't allowed to be submissive. Specifically. It's really a conversation for women. They don't give men this. If men want to be submissive, someone might call you a little or something. If you want to Be submissive with a woman. But if a gay guy submits to another man, everyone's like, yeah, girl, that's fierce. Be submissive. But Sabrina Carpenter had one little picture of her hair getting pulled. And now we gotta unburn our bras. Cause Sabrina Carpenter got her hair pulled in one video, in one picture. Let this woman get her if she want. What's wrong with having your. If Sabrina Carpenter wants to get her hair pulled?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a famous interview of Madonna being interviewed with this guy. And he's gone on about how she's sexually degrading herself. Cause she's chained to this table.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she had this powerful speech. She was like, I chained myself to the table. It is me chaining myself to the table. It's not about someone doing it to me. And also if someone wants to do it to me, like it's my business.

[B]

But also there's something to it. When you are in your front facing Persona in the world, even think about somebody like Madonna where you're very fierce. I do understand the behind the closed doors in the bedroom. Take me. You know, the submissive factor is a release. And I do think we don't talk enough about. I think guys think about sex in this way, but I don't know that women always think about sex as this way to express or to let loose or to let out. It's sometimes I don't know really what it becomes.

[A]

Well, some women do, but they're not taken seriously. Like when women are as sexually liberated as men are, they're kind of dismissed as not a serious person. Which is why I really love that when Madonna took the. Cause I might be getting the story wrong.

[B]

You're bringing up Madonna with this.

[A]

Madonna famously released a sex book. A book. It's called the Sex Book and it's her nudes. And I believe what happened was there's a video of this guy seeing her in a store and he's like, I have nude photos of you from when you were a teenager. Do you wanna buy them from me? And she's like, no. And he's like, well, otherwise I might release them. And she's like. And then like within a few months, she just had shot. She was like, I'll release my own nudes. Like, you won't get the drop on me. So she monetized it. She released her own nudes. And she still was taken serious as an artist.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like on. It was like. And that would. At that time, that would have ended careers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it made my career and Then.

[B]

They tried to end our girl, Vanessa Williams career.

[A]

Vanessa Williams.

[B]

Frenchie did that same kind of thing.

[A]

Frenchie Davis.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did the same thing.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Frenchie. Mother freaking Davis.

[A]

I'm like American Idol. I want to say she should have won, but I can't remember who won that season, but she was. She should have.

[B]

You better bring up Frenchie. Gorgeous girl. Very much giving you Betty Boop. I love that you bring that up. And I love that you bring up Madonna, because you actually toured with her.

[A]

I did tour with her.

[B]

What was it like? Did you. Were you like, let's go back into this time and these moments where you did all these culturally iconic things, or were you kind of just like, hey, girl, bye, girl, I'm checking in, checking out?

[A]

Well, there were some moments where we had to go back. Cause I helped her create the show. And period. There were a lot of us. It was not just me and Madonna sitting in a room over a fireside chat. There was a lot of folks helping create that show. I love the honesty, but I helped create segments of the show. And one part I had to create was this, like, retrospective of her career from literally the beginning to right now. And I went through all of the. I mean, every movie clip, every interview, everything, every music video, all the stuff she had done to create this package performance piece that I did in the show. So, yeah, there are a lot of moments where we had to go over her career and go over stuff. But she doesn't really like to revel in things she's done. She's not really too into people being like, oh, my God, you're so great. She's like, we gotta move on. I think at 65 and you've been famous since 20. Whatever. Yeah, she's 40 years. She's been doing this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So she's probably sick of, like. She knows. She knows she's an icon. We can move on to the next thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To the next iconic mom.

[B]

And I think she mostly loved for being somebody that. I mean, you could correct me if I'm wrong, mostly loved for being somebody that's championed queer culture. But also, sometimes people are critical of. And I'm curious what you think, especially now that has become so main, you know, queer culture, drag queens.

[A]

Do you know the tea between Michelle Visage and Madonna?

[B]

Tell me the tea.

[A]

According to Michelle.

[B]

Get into that.

[A]

According to Michelle Visage. This is in her book. I didn't say this. Michelle Visage is performing at the Latex Ball. The Latex Ball is this big party In New York City, it's a ball, and it is a charity event. It's the biggest ball in the world, I think, period. And Michelle Visage was at the Latex Ball, performing, wearing a black suit, a white shirt, a tie, a blonde ponytail, and a bra over it, according to Michelle. Next thing we know, Madonna's wearing a bl. According to Michelle. I wasn't alive. I wasn't there. I might have been alive, but I wasn't there. I was in Georgia Goo gooing and Gaga.

[B]

So this is exactly where I was gonna be leading to. What is the line when it comes to appreciating, acknowledging and appropriating, especially if you fit. If you're somebody that is championing a culture that you are more, you know, mainstream accepted by to do. What is the. How do you. What's the line, then?

[A]

Well, as someone who's been a part of counterculture, you know, I was working in New York City nightlife for a really long time, and there have been times where I have seen things, I've done things my friends have done, outfits we've made, performances that we've done, and then next thing you know, there's a mega pop star doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We can't claim the. We can't claim this dance style. We can't claim this outfit. We can't claim this. We can show pictures. A lot of times, we're just on their mood boards. I've seen major pop stars doing things I've done. Yeah. And I'm like, for a fact. And then when I mentioned name them real quick. Well, I honestly. I will name them. Well, here's the thing. Well, I'll. Should I name them?

[B]

Name them.

[A]

Okay, here's the thing. Everyone thinks. Everyone thinks I'm. Everyone thinks I'm crazy for this, but I'm not crazy.

[B]

No.

[A]

Like, I am not crazy. And I'm also not mad. I'm just saying it is a thing that had happened. They about to light me up. I don't know if I want to say this. I don't know if I want to say this.

[B]

Baby, this is Iki Palma. Yeah. Here's the thing about traveling. While postcards are nice, the real magic happens when you dive into local life. And trust me, there is no better way to unlock a culture's than through the kitchen. When food's on the table, we're all speaking the same delicious language. Speaking of which, I've got some exciting news, y'. All. I'm hosting my very own Airbnb Original Experience in Chicago. On December 17th. And it is all about cooking up some love in the kitchen. Imagine this culinary dream. You, me, my pops, and a local chef with mad skills, all in one kitchen, cooking up a storm. We're talking flavors so good, they'll make your taste buds do a happy dance. We're talking delicious recipes, kitchen secrets, and plenty of laughs. We're about to make this kitchen feel like the hottest cooking show in town. And y' all know when my dad and I get together, there's bound to be some entertainment. We might even share our secret ingredient for the perfect comfort food. I don't know about that one. The best part? It's not just about what's cooking in the pots and pans. It's the laughs we'll share, the stories we'll tell, and yes, the absolutely incredible food we'll devour together. When good people gather in the kitchen, that's where the real magic happens. So whether you're a kitchen pro or novice, this experience is for everyone who loves good food and good company. And trust me, by the end of our time together, you'll feel like a culinary superstar. So if you're ready to roll your sleeves up and join me for some culinary fun, head to airbnb.com kiki to learn more about my Airbnb original exclusive experience. Let's make some magic in the kitchen together. This message is brought to you by Apple Pay. Greetings, stress shoppers. This is your retail relaxation guide, Dr. Kiki. And today we're addressing your holiday shopping anxiety. The endless giftless, the mounting pressure. With less than a month until the holidays, time is ticking to pick up all those holiday gifts for my friends and family. Between script reads and sound checks, I squeeze in as much online shopping as possible on my iPhone to find that perfect for everyone on my list. What helps me get my time back? Checking out online with Apple Pay. Of course, no need to fill out those long online checkout forms when shopping online from your iPhone. Instead, I just tap the Apple Pay button at checkout, a quick face ID scan, and ding. Your girl's got the perfect gift for my mom, Sharon. Hey, girl. Apple Pay also makes shopping in store a breeze. No need to dig for my wallet. When I have an iPhone in hand. Just double click the side button, smile for face ID and tap. I'm off to the cookie decorating class with my little one. My advice? Next time you're shopping online or in store, look for the Apple Pay button or contactless symbol at checkout. Consider it your gift to yourself. Pay the Apple Way terms apply. Same time next week.

[A]

So I did this houndstooth collection, okay. When I was hosting the show called the Pit Stop. It's the official review show for Pulse Ride. Right. This houndstooth collection.

[B]

And then I love listening to you talk.

[A]

Then one of my favorite pop stars of all time, Beyonce, Giselle knows. Carter did a house.

[B]

I thought you was gonna save me.

[A]

And I was like, I did a house. And then everyone's like, there's no way you inspired Beyonce. I was like, why? Why couldn't I inspire Beyonce? And then this shit has no excuse. And then on my podcast, I was like, well, her creative director does follow me on Instagram. When I said that, he immediately unfollowed me. And I was like, well, you were following me at one point in time. You were. And by the way, I don't care. Like, I'm not trying to be in the design world. I have.

[B]

I'm not trying to be in the design world.

[A]

I did this photo, and I think, in my opinion, it is.

[B]

I cannot wait to see this.

[A]

You're not gonna tell me I'm crazy.

[B]

By the way, Hybe, I don't agree with this, man.

[A]

You're not gonna tell me I'm crazy? You're not about to look me in my eye and tell me I'm crazy? Look me in my eye and tell me I'm crazy.

[B]

I mean, the vibe is simp.

[A]

I'm not crazy.

[B]

But this is the thing with life, and this is like, you think I'm crazy.

[A]

But do you think I'm crazy?

[B]

Cause what can we do? It's a stalemate.

[A]

Do you think I'm crazy?

[B]

I think you have your brain.

[A]

The silhouette, the pose, the hat. And the thing is. So tell me the truth, Keke. Be honest with me. Yeah, you've seen a mood board?

[B]

Yes, of course they have references.

[A]

Have you ever been like, we gotta get a look. Have you ever seen one of the queens on the mood board?

[B]

Oh, my gosh, yes, y'. All.

[A]

We're on the mood board.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

There's nothing wrong with pulling references from pop culture or from subculture or from counterculture. I'm not saying there's no way.

[B]

I mean. But I do think, and this is why I'm asking, is what is the proper way to make sure that you're not a part of erasure when it comes to this?

[A]

It doesn't matter. It's literally a pose in a picture. I don't own that pose. Someone did the pose for me. Yeah, when I did it, it was Leigh Bowery inspired. I was pulling from Leigh Bowery, so I didn't create that image. I mean, the image. Yes, but I didn't create that.

[B]

I know exactly what you mean. We're all inspired and taking it and making our own.

[A]

Yeah. It's all pulled from another thing, from another thing, from another thing, from another thing. So for that, I would say that it doesn't matter. But then, like, one time, I'm really saying names. One time.

[B]

I live for everything.

[A]

One time, Sia did this performance that was very inspired by a Nino west performance. So Nina west is a drag queen on RuPaul's Drag Race, and she is really big in Ohio. That sounds like a read.

[B]

That's it. Ohio.

[A]

Big in Ohio. No, she's big.

[B]

Love you, Nina.

[A]

She's big in all over. She's massive in Ohio. And she did this number where her dress comes to life. She's wearing this massive gown, and the dress just comes to life. Siya does it at Coachella, and everyone's like, I have seen this somewhere before. Now, at that point, Siya was like, I did pull a reference from Nina West. And then I don't know what they worked out. I'm not in their DMs. I don't know what's going on.

[B]

But she said that, you know, I was inspired.

[A]

But that was so specific. Yeah, that's like. So, like, girl, that is like, that's the thing that Nina west did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then there was a thing with, like, Ariana Grande and Farrah Moan, but they had the same designer.

[B]

Cause then there's also that, too. But I think it's important when we are talking about, like you said, counterculture or culture.

[A]

By the way, they're lighting me up in the comments. They think, for some reason, they think there is no way I could possibly inspire someone as great as Beyonce, which I don't know why that's so crazy, in my opinion.

[B]

Obviously, inspire.

[A]

We got a beehive here. Chime it.

[B]

Obviously, Beyonce is inspired by queer culture in general, with Renaissance. I mean, that was the whole homage to that culture, too. Obviously her uncle as well. But to the culture that inspired her to be the diva that we know her to be.

[A]

And I love. I love the image. I went to Renaissance period. I was there in a silver suit, wearing heels, standing for hours.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

She floated over me.

[B]

I'm gonna float over me and this little horse now that she got.

[A]

I wait when she floated over, I ain't gonna stand under that Cadillac.

[B]

You know, they pissed her off and she cussed everybody out after that.

[A]

I ain't gonna stand under that Cadillac and tell you that I thought she.

[B]

Was mad cause she's a Virgo and Beyonce don't play. But yeah, I mean, that's why I always ask. Because obviously as well, with me, whether it's watching Paris is burning and the gag is. And it's chaeboo, you know, there is. I think there's always a conversation where you wanna make sure that if you are appreciating or even if just being a part of the culture, always maintaining, pushing forward the right education, the right appreciation and the value because. Because, you know, we're still fighting against so much stuff.

[A]

Well, no counter coach is monolithic, right? So you're gonna have people in ballroom or in nightlife or in whatever who are gonna be like, I say go for it. It helps me get more gigs. More people know about this thing that I love. I've been trying to tell people about this forever, and now people like it. And I have some folks who, like, keep it underground. Don't tell nobody. I wanna be a secret. So some folks are gonna love it, some folks are gonna hate it. You can't. You know what I mean? Like, someone might be like, I don't like when you, you know, talk black and white spaces. I don't want them knowing our slang.

[B]

I know in that regard too. It's always like, we're like, trying to figure out, like, what am I to do then just not be.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, like, so are we codes? Whichever it goes, Some folks gonna be like, it should be counter culture. Some folks are like, it is what it is. Like, we deserve to be part of the mainstream. So someone's gonna love it. Someone's gonna hate it. Yeah, I love Beyonce. They're still lighting me up. They lighting me up.

[B]

Yeah. I love the lightning up in the comments.

[A]

Crazy, the comments. I can already see them. And while I'm acting like, I can actually see the comment.

[B]

Because you can feel them.

[A]

I can feel you feel that they've already. I'm dressed like a bumblebee. I'm in the hive. I'm not in the hive. I like Beyonce. I'm not in the hive. Are you in any. Are you. Are you in the hive?

[B]

I think I'm in the hive.

[A]

Are you? Are you? Are you? Are you a.

[B]

Now, the reason why I said think is because what are we judging it off of? If you're asking me to reveal stats and all that type of stuff, am I willing to fight?

[A]

I'M willing to be in the comment section going crazy.

[B]

Well, no, but you know I'm not. Because who. We don't have time for it.

[A]

Oh, I have time. I'll make time.

[B]

What does the Navy do?

[A]

The Navy just smokes weed and chill. The Navy is. They don't have the energy.

[B]

I tell you, when I see my girl sitting up there now with them kids living her life, making that makeup, I'm so happy for her.

[A]

And now the lambs will gaslight you.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

The Lambs will gaslight you down. They will act like things aren't true. That are. They will. They will fully gaslight you. Ooh, the Swifties will.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. What will the Swifties.

[A]

Oh, they will annoy you so bad. So with the Swifties.

[B]

I live for this.

[A]

I have a theory about Swifties in the hive. Okay, I think, first of all, the only people who are actually against Beyonce or Taylor Swift are the Swifties in the hive. Only the Swifties are against Beyonce. Only the Beehive is against the Swifties. Everyone else is like, they are great artists. You cannot argue that. Beyonce is inarguably one of the best performers alive, period. And for the past hundred years.

[B]

No. Yeah.

[A]

You cannot argue that Taylor Swift is a phenomenal songwriter, even when she's not writing songs for herself.

[B]

Storyteller.

[A]

She wrote Rihanna's third most popular song.

[B]

Under a pin name she came for.

[A]

She didn't even say it was her. It made it. She didn't even say it was her. So obviously Taylor Swift can write a bop. You can't argue this. Obviously, Beyonce can perform down. You cannot.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

Knowing the education, you cannot argue this. But now the Beehive is trying to convince us that Taylor Swift is. Because they want to lift up Beyonce. Just lift up Beyonce. You don't have to take a text at Taylor Swift.

[B]

You need to. Naturally.

[A]

And the Swifties are now trying to knock down Beyonce because she don't sell as many tickets to Taylor. But Taylor can't dance like Beyonce, but she can't sing like her. But she can't write like her. Just go to the girls concerts and enjoy.

[B]

And what do we think? What are the monsters?

[A]

Oh, the monsters are going to cry. They're very sensitive. They're going to cry. Here's that shirt. Don't bully me. I'll come.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That's the Monsters. Oh, my.

[B]

It's so much going on now.

[A]

I'm an animal. You don't know what the animals are.

[B]

Tell me the Animals.

[A]

You gotta go get me into it now.

[B]

You better tell me, Kennedy.

[A]

Bob. Uber. Get me together Bob Ke$, when I tell you Kesha, when I coming down.

[B]

To New Warning and in New York City. Don't stop me get. I didn't know.

[A]

I don't think you knew any of them.

[B]

No, that I didn't.

[A]

I don't think you knew.

[B]

I knew the tonality. I knew the tonality of Ms. Kesh.

[A]

I'm a huge Kesha fan. I'm obsessed. Obsessed. I have loved Kesha for so long.

[B]

She's had such an intense journey, and it's so good to see her continuously, to push through and keep telling her story and keep having fun with music.

[A]

You know, her album, period is the first time that she's owned all of her own music. She owns everything. It's all hers. She doesn't owe anyone anything.

[B]

I'm so happy for her.

[A]

It's her first independent album. I would say probably the music that I like the most, I'm an animal. I just love Kesha's story and her music. I think that the music I probably connect to and, like, listen to the most. Lately I've been really in my Mariah Carey bag.

[B]

Oh, honey. Well, when you did the questionnaire, I didn't even get into it. Cause we hopped right into an amazing convo. But you said you was listening to Mariah Carey over here. Now the real question is, are we talking 90s, early 90s? Are we talking early 2000s? Are we talking current?

[A]

So we were hopping around. It was late 90s, early 2000s, when we were listening to We Belong Together.

[B]

Ah, yes.

[A]

And then we went back to My all, I Give My all.

[B]

That was the early. Early.

[A]

And then we went over to Hero. And then a hero comes along with the strength to carry on. And you cast your fears aside and you know you can survive. She's so good. Mariah Carey, her pen. We're not talking about this enough. Wake it up. Let's wake it up. Her pin is the nastiest one in the game. No one writes. No one writes pop music. R and B, uptempo, R and B like Mariah Carey. There's a reason why she has more number one hits than any woman. And most solo artists like, she's insane.

[B]

Yes. Even though you were on Traitors and you didn't make it that far, you were like. You were the most talked about.

[A]

Sweetie, I was mentioned in every single episode of the show. I'm very competitive.

[B]

Okay, so tell me about that experience and what was the hardest part.

[A]

So the Traitors was such a wild experience. I was out of my mind because my mother passed away two weeks before the Traitors. Literally two weeks. My mom died on Sunday. We had her funeral the next Sunday, and the following Sunday, I was off in Scotland filming the Traitors. It was. I was having panic attacks. They had to call the ambulance for me. None of this made the air.

[B]

Sorry, honey.

[A]

It was really rough.

[B]

It was horrible.

[A]

But I was still like, I'm in game mode. Honestly, I think that if I didn't have it, I would have been even more miserable because I had a break. Even though it was like I was there for maybe like a week and a half, I had a break from the sadness of having to, you know, memorialize my mother. Just like two weeks earlier or one week earlier. Literally one week earlier, I had her funeral. So it was nice for me. And, you know, I'm a loudmouth. I play hard and fast. I do not pull punches. I accuse. I stand up for myself. I advocate really hard. So people are like, well, I can tell you a trader. I was like, baby, I would have been loud if I was a traitor, if I was a Facebook, if I was working craft services, if I was the director, if I was the car driver, if I was driving the Land Rovers, I would have been loud no matter what.

[B]

Literally. People always think that they know, but whenever you're a loud person in the game, they always choose you. And that gets on my nerves. Like, that's like me and my family, anytime we play something, they're like, keke, leave me alone and let me play. Damn.

[A]

And also, all of you at home being like, if I were there, but you weren't. You were at home in your pajamas and I was wearing a custom suit.

[B]

Ah.

[A]

And also when you're there, it's hard. When you're at home watching, you have all the answers. You already know who's a traitor. You already know who's a faithful. You don't know any. Would you ever do the Traitors?

[B]

I mean, I love games, so yeah, I.

[A]

Would you go on the show?

[B]

I mean, I don't know if I go on the show, child, but I would do it at home.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

Keke, what is the secret to it? Because, I mean, it seems like.

[A]

Don't ask me. I was the first trader found out.

[B]

It seemed like it's a lot of mental mind. Like, my sister did one of these shows, Celebrity Claim to Fame.

[A]

I heard about this show.

[B]

She won game. My sister won, and she was Playing mind games.

[A]

Y' all look alike.

[B]

We do.

[A]

And she still won.

[B]

She won.

[A]

In the morning of the game to.

[B]

Find out, she made them think that her relative was Laurence Fishburne. And then she got them to, like, hold space for her until the end because they had brought up Akilah and the bean. She was like, mm. And then by the end, when they said Laurence Fishburne, when they finally tried to get her out, it was like, mm, wrong. And it was like, damn. It wasn't Laurence Fishburne all this time.

[A]

So I was at a party one time, and I have a rule. One of my rules is I never let people call me to them.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. I hate that.

[A]

I hate it.

[B]

And why?

[A]

I'm like, you wanna talk to me?

[B]

I hate that.

[A]

I don't wanna talk to you. You come here. I broke my rule one time because I was at a party and I looked over, someone's going, stop. And I was like, it's Megan D Style. I'm gonna walk over there.

[B]

Oh. Period.

[A]

So I walked over to Megan and she was like, I loved you on the Traitors. You were so fun. Yada, yada, yada.

[B]

And then I was like, she watches tv. I've gotten into this that she watches TV from different things. I'm here. I'm like, she like. She's a TV girl.

[A]

TV and anime. Mm. Well, anime is TV anyway. TV and a thing on tv. And then she was like, I love you. I'm a traitor. She was sitting there with Paris Hilton. Wow.

[B]

What a duo.

[A]

Yeah, I reckon they're buddies.

[B]

I reckon there, but I live for reckons.

[A]

You see Paris on the Knicks ad with Not Latto. What's her name? Who? Tapper. Tap. Tap in Big Face.

[B]

Oh, no, that's all that Sweetie.

[A]

Yeah. She got an ad.

[B]

She got a new joint out right now.

[A]

She got an ad with Sweetie. That's the good side. I love this song.

[B]

It's cute. Both of them.

[A]

So she was like, I loved you on the trailers. You were great. Her and Paris Hilton were gagging back and forth. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I was like, well, we play the game sometimes. I say, oh, my God, you should come play with her. She goes, I would love to. And I was like. And I was like. And I was like. I always tried. I said, oh. I said, let me give you my number. She was like, anyway. I was like, girl, you can let me give you my number. I didn't ask for yours. I tried to give you mine. You could have Took my number. Megan.

[B]

She said, I liked you on the tv.

[A]

Yeah. I said, let me give you my number. She was like, woo. It is warm. Woo. My goodness. Who is the air on, girl? We outside ain't no air on. She gathered me.

[B]

Very cute.

[A]

They only do it. Everyone listen. I'm bold. I would give my number out. I don't ask for the numbers.

[B]

Cause I know that you can always not answer.

[A]

Ask if the number is too much. Offering your number, I think is valid. Right? Every once in a while I'll meet someone, fam. Let me give you my number. And usually they'll take the number. Usually they'll take the number. Megan, did I take the number?

[B]

Well, she's honest. She's an Aquarius. She said, look, baby, one time I gave somebody my mom's number because I was like. I used to go. And I still work on this to this day, where I just don't want anything to be awkward. And so I try to just get out of it and try to do all this get silly. Anyway, this person asked me for my number, and I was like, okay. And I gave them my mom number. And I was like, you know, my phone is. I was like, my phone is dead. But, like, y' all just hit me. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

I'm screaming when I tell you.

[B]

This mother in front of me.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

He was like. He was like. Someone answered and it was Sharon's ass. Hello. Hello.

[A]

This is your gift for being dishonored. That's what you get for being dishonest.

[B]

And I looked so stupid.

[A]

Gathered.

[B]

I looked so stupid at this man. Like, now the jig is up. Get the out.

[A]

I've never done that. But I wanted to take someone's. Cause, you know, they don't really look what they're. They just, you know, they don't go back and look at the number. I was like, what would happen if you just. If I put 911 and just saved my number?

[B]

That type of thing is so funny to me.

[A]

I've never done that. I've never done that. That's illegal. That's illegal.

[B]

But nowadays, what people have been doing is like, follow me. You know, they try to do the Instagram thing to make it even less invasive. But it's like, I don't know why we get all weird with the numbers and you could just block each other.

[A]

Well, that's the thing. I will just. I have no qualms hanging up on someone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I answer every call, even if I'm on the number. I'LL answer the phone. If I want to talk, I will just hang up. I'll hang up and I'm a phone call over a text person anyway. Let me tell you, nothing's more annoying than getting a giving your number to a texter.

[B]

So wait a minute. Are you a caller?

[A]

I'm a caller. Cold caller?

[B]

No, babe, I'm scared of a call.

[A]

Keke.

[B]

Isn't that crazy?

[A]

Kiki, you too old to be scared to call. This is like 22, 23 year old behavior.

[B]

Like, it's like I'll answer it. But like if you're like. So for instance, if it's a number that I don't know, I'm gonna answer it just to see what's going on. But if you're somebody that knows me.

[A]

Ain't we the same age?

[B]

Why the hell you calling me? Yeah, 32.

[A]

We are not the same age.

[B]

How old are you?

[A]

We are not the same age. Not even close.

[B]

Not even close. That's dramatic. What are you, 35?

[A]

No.

[B]

36?

[A]

No.

[B]

40?

[A]

No.

[B]

What the.

[A]

I'm 39. 39. 39.

[B]

But the way you had me going, Shaq.

[A]

Well, I was trying to remember. Cause I felt like.

[B]

I feel like I give 40 though.

[A]

I felt like I was a. You do low key.

[B]

You know, it's very.

[A]

I felt like I was a kid when the keel and the bee came. I felt in my head, I was like. I felt like I was a kid.

[B]

You probably were and I wasn't. I mean, being. What? Oh, I guess you weren't. Yeah.

[A]

What year did it come out?

[B]

Akita and the bee came out in 2005. 6. 6. 2006?

[A]

Nah, I was a grown ass man. Paying bills, paying taxes. Grown ass. But I guess I don't think I.

[B]

Maybe it brought you back to feeling like a kid.

[A]

I don't think I clocked that. Akil and the bee was out. When it was out, I think it had been out for a while and then I saw it and then I was like, oh, maybe it was out when I was a kid.

[B]

Yeah, maybe.

[A]

I also used to get it mixed up with a Little Miss Sunshine for some reason.

[B]

Oh my gosh. Miss Mama's Miss Abby won a damn Oscar.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Little Miss Sunshine. Abigail Bresling.

[A]

Have you been nominated yet?

[B]

Never been nominated for Oscar.

[A]

You deserve one.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

I saw the space movie you talking about. Nope, nope, nope.

[B]

I live for up. He took me to dance with you.

[A]

When you had the balloon. No, I saw. Nope. It was so good.

[B]

Oh, My gosh. Thank you.

[A]

You were great in that movie.

[B]

Thank you. I really had a lot of fun shooting that movie. It was out absolutely, like life changing.

[A]

And I watched your visual album randomly before. Before this. I was like, I was. Oh, Kiki Palmer just released a visual album. Let me check it out.

[B]

Thank you for checking it out.

[A]

What you think? It was great. It was amazing. I thought it was really. And you self produced it, didn't you?

[B]

Yes, I did.

[A]

You better work, child.

[B]

You know, we got to invest in ourselves because if we don't, then who will?

[A]

You better work. That's amazing.

[B]

Thank you so much. I really appreciate you for checking it out. You know, you put stuff out, you do your thing in the world and you kind of have to let it go. I'm sure, you know, okay. And you just hope, hey, I hope it hit you somewhere.

[A]

It was great. I feel like you are probably. Let me think hard about this now. I feel like you might be the most famous multi hyphenate. Like actual multi hyphen.

[B]

Jamie Foxx.

[A]

No.

[B]

You won't love Ray.

[A]

Jamie Foxx is a obviously an actor. Obviously Jamie Foxx is an actor. No one's gonna argue that he's an actor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When's the last time he did stand up?

[B]

Well, after the one original that. Oh, he actually just did one. But he did one of the most iconic when he got up there, told him some time see some Brady Bun.

[A]

No. Okay, you're right. Jamie Foxx is the most happy. You're right. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. He's really.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Jamie Foxx is a big multihow.

[B]

But he's like kind of. He's not our generation, maybe. Is that what you mean? He's older? Jamie is literally 50.

[A]

You can't say that.

[B]

Is that bad that he's older? Oh, my God.

[A]

Is this the roast of Jamie Foxx?

[B]

No.

[A]

With your old ass. Dusty ass. Jamie Foxx old crusty, dusty ass. No play.

[B]

Now you see how he put all that on there? Jamie Foxx looking.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Jamie is literally. He just got like an achievement, lifetime achievement.

[A]

He's got more than 50. Ain't no way. Jamie Fox.

[B]

You think you're older than 50?

[A]

Ain't no way. Jamie Foxx is 50 years old. Ain't no way.

[B]

Let's find it out now. Google it up. Google's gonna give us the answers.

[A]

It 57.

[B]

He almost 60.

[A]

About to be.

[B]

Yeah. And that's why it's like you probably thought of it like that because he's like he's our. He's the one that showed us how to do it.

[A]

Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. He is definitely a very much so multi affinite.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I feel like wasn't there. Was there? Did I make this up? Or was that like a couple of years ago, Maybe like eight years ago where there was like Keke Palmer need to do a version of the View?

[B]

Yeah, they would say that. I mean, I would. Wait a minute. So I think if. Let's think it up right now, baby. This is Icy Palma. Yeah, y', all, the holidays are coming up so soon. And you know what that means. We've got some serious shopping to do. But I'm not even stressing, okay? Your girl stays prepared. And I know exactly where I'm headed to make it all happen. At Ross, they always have what you need at the price you need at this hella expensive time of year. Yes, yes. It's holiday decor. Like plates and candles to keep your home looking festive. It's gifts from toys to sweaters for everyone on your list. Whatever it is, it is all at Ross. 20 to 60% off other retailer prices. And we haven't even gotten to the looks yet. Between all these holiday gatherings, parties and dinner invites filling up on your calendar, you're going to need multiple fits for all these functions. And trust me when I tell you, Ross has got the reins. Every single vibe you're trying to serve this season for every piece of the holidays and all for less. So take it from me, show up and show out this holiday season period. Work your magic with Ross. The magic of the holidays has me in my full festive element. Between turning my home into a winter wonderland, holiday shopping and traveling, I need to show up, present and energized for all of these moments. Want to know my secret? It's AG1. This daily health drink that combines all the good stuff. Vitamins, pre and probiotics, superfoods and antioxidants in one simple, delicious scoop. I love that AG1 sources the best and highest quality ingredients they can find. Since making AG1 part of my mornings, I've noticed my energy levels are thriving and my digestion is improving. And these flavors, they understood the assignment. I live for the tropical blend. But they also have original berry and citrus options that'll have you excited to start your day. And get this, AG1 is dropping their best offer ever. Head to drinkag1.comkiki to get your welcome kit. Vitamin D3 +K2 AG1 flavor sampler and their new sleep supplement, AGZ for free, which has been a game changer for my nightly routine. That's just $126 in free gifts for new [e-mail] Kiki, your wellness routine is about to be that girl. If there's a version of the View, I mean, I think we both gotta.

[A]

Be on it, obviously.

[B]

So who else is gonna be on there with us?

[A]

Well, the question is, do you?

[B]

And which one of us is.

[A]

Whoops. Well, well, baby. One of us has to be Whoopi Goldberg.

[B]

One of us has to be Whoopi.

[A]

One of us has to. I actually look like Whoopi Goldberg. So if you're Whoopi and I have the tattoo.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. You love Whoopi, too.

[A]

Oh, I'm obsessed.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, Whoopi Goldberg.

[A]

I'm obsessed.

[B]

When she put that shirt on her head, baby, that was me as a little girl.

[A]

I was watching Sister act last night, baby.

[B]

Sister act. Sister act. Literally, Sister. You know what? That's the only one where the second one was just as good, if not good, as the first. You know what I'm saying? That never happens.

[A]

Yeah. Godfather 2.

[B]

Oh, people do say that. The Godfather I never got into.

[A]

Yeah. I just hear people saying, I ain't never saying that.

[B]

You get what I'm saying? I'm glad we were honest now.

[A]

People be saying it, though. Yeah.

[B]

Cause it's one of the ones. If you say you haven't, then you have to feel like 2 minutes, 5 minutes of you haven't seen it. It's like, I ain't seen it.

[A]

Yeah. I ain't seen it.

[B]

Like, get over it.

[A]

But I'm a Whoopi Goldberg.

[B]

Stan for sure, baby. Love Whoopi. Okay, so I'm Joy. Because Joy, the only one that's been there for.

[A]

I hate I. And when my friends are over. Do you know how old Joy Behar is?

[B]

How old.

[A]

How old do you think she is?

[B]

Well, now you scared me. So I'm thinking 80.

[A]

Joy Beh is 84 years old. I don't know who the doctor is. I don't know what was she.

[B]

And also what was. What type of minerals? What type of maintenance in the mind, because her mind is strong.

[A]

82. 82.

[B]

Her mind is strong.

[A]

The minerals. There's probably got to been something. The hair, the everything. The mind.

[B]

The mind is strong.

[A]

She comes up. I was on the View. You've probably done the View.

[B]

Yeah, I love going on the View.

[A]

Jay Behar is coming up with jokes on the spot.

[B]

Yes. And she be looking at you like, are you ready?

[A]

She is a brilliant.

[B]

She's always in your eyes.

[A]

So obviously, I think you're the Joy.

[B]

I'm Joy. I'm fine with that.

[A]

Do you want a conservative voice? It's gonna be annoying to have around.

[B]

What do that mean? You mean literally political, or do we mean socially?

[A]

You know who it is. You know who it is. You know who it is. You know who I'm talking about. We're thinking of the same person. No, everyone's thinking of going to do it.

[B]

We're gonna do it.

[A]

We're gonna say it on three.

[B]

One, two, three.

[A]

Candice.

[B]

But you know, she would give it to us. She would be giving it to our asses, and she will be giving us tv, and we'll be going back and forth.

[A]

It'll be television. Yo. We will snatch the Emmy.

[B]

Snatch.

[A]

Okay, wait.

[B]

So it's me, it's you, it's Candace. Because we need the conservative voice.

[A]

Yeah. And then do we need. We don't even know straight men up in there, so we're gonna go ahead and skip on that. But I do think we could have. We need a messy queen. We need a messy girl. We need a messy. And for me, it's probably T.S. madison.

[B]

Oh, hell yes. Now, this is a show.

[A]

It's not called the View. It's called the Mess, baby.

[B]

We might have just sold.

[A]

Welcome to the mess.

[B]

Me, you, T.S. madison, and Candace Owens. My is showing up.

[A]

They're showing up. They're showing up.

[B]

What are we talking? Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Current events. What we've been up to. I mean, the Mess would crush that.

[B]

Who are we pitching it to? What network is it? And y' all sound like.

[A]

Couldn't inspire Beyonce.

[B]

What network is taking this?

[A]

I mean, I think the Mess might need to be.

[B]

Oof.

[A]

That's a real good question.

[B]

Live news on Netflix.

[A]

Yeah, maybe it needs to be behind. It needs to be, like, you know what I mean, awol. Because it's gonna be. It's called the Mess. You can't have it be the Mess and have it be like, this week on the View. The Mess is gonna be messy.

[B]

This is good.

[A]

Oh, it's great.

[B]

I'm living for that. Oh, by the way, who is your dream guest on Sibling Rivalry?

[A]

You know, the truth is, I don't like having guests on the show. I don't like interviewing people.

[B]

It can be tough if you don't have. If you don't get somebody that wanna talk.

[A]

Well, Monet X Change is.

[B]

I love her.

[A]

She. She thinks she.

[B]

Oprah.

[A]

She want to interview. She want to.

[B]

She.

[A]

She want to be a journalist so bad. Meanwhile, I'm the one with the Peabody. I have. I have the actual journalism award.

[B]

Come on, Peabody.

[A]

I have the actual journalism award, honey.

[B]

I live.

[A]

I didn't get her for journalism, though. I got her for something else. I'm not a journalist. I just like the photo in Monay's face. So Monet loves having guests. Cause she likes to interview people. I really don't like interviewing people. So my favorite guests I've had on the show have been my friends. Someone like Bianca Del Rio, Peppermint Mateo Lane, Nick Smith. Whenever friends swing by, that's when I'm the happiest. Or if someone comes by, I want them to know that, like, we're gonna be talking about the topic and we can plug something. But I don't. I really don't. Like. I'm not good at faking interests.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it can happen sometimes, you know? Cause every guest is different. Every conversation is different. And yeah, to be curious.

[A]

If you're faking it, you'll get. Eventually you'll get caught. You remember when the lady thought that Samuel Jackson was Laurence Fishburne?

[B]

That. That was crazy because they don't even look alike.

[A]

They don't even look alike. But he said they get confused all the time. I'm also a Samuel Jackson, Stan.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Do you know that they both were down to the bottom for Ike in what's Love Got to Do With It? Samuel Jackson, he told me this story. I was doing a movie with him called the Cleaner when I was a kid, and he said. He was like, this is. You know, they told me it's up against me and Laurence Fishburne, and I felt really good. After you auditioned. The following day, I get flowers to my house, and I just know I've got the role. Do you know they sent this man's flowers to tell him, no, you ain't got the role.

[A]

It is kind, though.

[B]

But that's so annoying. What is? My funeral.

[A]

Very annoying. But I do think that. I do think that Lawrence was right for the role. Cause.

[B]

But Samuel Jackson.

[A]

But Samuel Jackson. I love when I tell you I'm a Samuel Jackson, Stan. I love Samuel Jackson. But it would have been. It would have been like, you know how he be talking? Tina Turner, Anime Bullock. You know when he be like. When he be like, what's all these snakes? No, it's so many mother snakes on this mother plane. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon me. Like, it's always that.

[B]

It's always that hilarious. Oh, my gosh. What's love got to do with this?

[A]

You're really good at impersonations. I'm not gonna ask you to do that.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Well, actually, I have a game for us to play where that's what we're gonna do.

[A]

Oh, okay. Let's do it. Let's wake it up.

[B]

But wait, I do wanna. Before I get off here, I just want everybody.

[A]

I derail everything.

[B]

No, but me and you were having so much fun, and I just wanted to take a moment to quickly talk about all the things. Just literally want people to hear what you've released this year. I mean, you released your debut novel, you performed at the Grammy Museum, obviously. You appeared on Traders and launched a production company. I just want that monks being fun and amazing and all that great stuff. You're so. You're achieving so much.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

So what was the highlight?

[A]

So one of my highlights this year was definitely becoming a New York Times bestselling novelist. Like, because I chose to be a novelist, so I didn't write an autobiography. I didn't write, like, messy stories from Madonna. And the time Whoopi Goldberg told me this and RuPaul whispered this, I wanted to write a fiction story about Harriet Tubman. It's called Harriet Tubman Live in Concert. And when I tell y', all, I am so proud of this book.

[B]

I mean, it's such a brilliant concept.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

For her to be in this time and for you to kind of retell what freedom is today.

[A]

And I will tell you, I made a New York Times bestseller. So luckily, the list is top 15 is not top 10. I was number 15, but I was 15 out of 15. But what's true to me is that I was actually 15 out of thousands.

[B]

I'm like, that's a really hard thing.

[A]

Out of. In fiction. I released a book the same week as Wicked. The new Wicked book. Son of a Witch, or Wiki. Whatever. The new one is Wicked, y'. All. Bad witch or something. I don't know what it is. He wrote a book. And then James. The retelling of Huckleberry Finn. Huckleberry Finn. These are monster books, iconic books. They're huge books. And I actually. I made it on that list. That was. I wish. I don't wanna get credit. I wish my mom could have been there for this. I wish my mom could have been there for this. I know, she would have been so proud of me. I just know she would have been like, over the moon to know that I made it on the New York Times bestseller list. Especially telling the story of this remarkable black woman who has changed the lives of so many Americans. She is just.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

She would have been so proud of me. And I hope that the story gets out to more people. People don't know how amazing Harriet Tubman is. Like, she.

[B]

What is something that you think that even us black folks don't know that Harriet Tubman did or what she's about?

[A]

Well, Harriet Tubman, first of all, she lived to be almost 100. She lived to be in her 90s.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

Harriet Tubman was under five feet tall.

[B]

Oh my gosh, she was so tiny.

[A]

Shout out to the shorty. Harriet Tubman did all of that. And all those trips back and forth were mostly in her 20s. In her 20s, well, half of us couldn't even figure out most of she was figuring this out. Not only that, she. I mean, I can go on for days and days. She was physically disabled. She had a very, very, very severe brain injury. So there was a period of time where there was an enslaved person, a young man in, like a shop. And he was doing something that the shop owner didn't like. So the shop owner threw a weight at him, like a weight, like a five pound weight, like a doorstop to hit him. He weave, he weaved. It hit Harriet Tubman in her head, gave her a severe brain injury that gave her basically induced forced narcolepsy. She would pass out for hours at a time. Not like a restful slumber, like faint.

[B]

In somewhere dangerous, anywhere, anywhere.

[A]

She would faint for hours at a time. And she had this injury from her. From her teens until she passed away. Harriet Tubman established a home for formerly enslaved people in upstate New York, where she ended up living her last days. She also kind of got. She not kind of. She got scammed. In her last days, she actually built up all the savings she had been storytelling. She sold her story. She was a community builder. And then she like, basically buried her money. And then she got scammed by these people in her. In her town. And they like, beat her up. An old woman took her money. And then she ended up living in the home that she founded for formerly enslaved people. But she was also taken care of. There. There's a beautiful picture. It's the last photo of her ever taken. She is sitting in this chair, wrapped in white fabric, looking like. I mean, it's probably the most Beautiful picture I've ever seen in my life. It might be the most beautiful picture I've ever seen in my life. Do y' all do pictures here?

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

It's right here. Did it work?

[B]

We can totally find it. You sent it to us.

[A]

Yeah, when it was there. It's there.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I was there, and I ended up pointing to nothing in the videos. It's always me pointing to the air. But I love. I love this photo, and I love this woman's story. I love what she's created for us as black people, as Americans. Black history is American history.

[B]

It is 1,000%. Yeah, 1,000%.

[A]

So I'm very proud of that. Also launching my production company, Purse first Studios. I'm really proud of that. It's a place for the girls, gays and nays, the ggts to come do our stuff. If you're a CIS straight man, you can watch it, but you can't come. No, I'm playing, you know, to enjoy our stuff and create the kind of content that we want to see, that we want to hear, the kind of comedy, the kind of, you know, content that we want to.

[B]

Narrating your stories.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

100% as it should be. I just, you know, I don't want to hit on it too hard if it brings up sad thoughts, but I did think it was amazing. Your mom, you grew up. She had a ball.

[A]

A bar.

[B]

A bar. A bar bar. And she's also queer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I want to just know what it was like growing up to her just quickly. Like, just. I mean, she raised such an amazing young man. I want to know just a little bit about her and man.

[A]

No point.

[B]

No point where?

[A]

In here.

[B]

No person. Human.

[A]

No. I'm a man. I'm a man.

[B]

I'm a man.

[A]

I'm a man. I'm a him, a he, a sir. A man. My mother, Martha Caldwell from Corinth, Mississippi. Scorpio, period. I don't know much about the zodiac, but I like to tell people I was raised by Scorpio because everyone's like, ooh, raised by Scorpio is crazy. My mom was an amazing woman. An amazing, amazing woman. She owned a bar called Sensations, a drag bar in Columbus, Georgia, called Sensations. Obviously, I was never in the bar because I was too young to be in the bar during. I was there when we were cleaning up during the day, but I was never there during, you know, hours because they're like, oh, there's a kid here. But my mom taught me a lot. I would Say this. This is why. So there's a queen on RuPaul's Drag Race named Gigi Goode. And Gigi Goode made it to the top. She didn't win, but she made it to the top, like, second or third place. And every episode, they're like, who made drawfish? She's like, my mom. Or they're like, who did this? My mom. My mom. And when a kid is loved by their mom, it's like, the most. And I'm not saying that a father's love or a grandma's love is not good. That's not what I'm saying. But for me personally, the love of your mother can get you to the highest of highs. And on my season, Derrick Berry said he had a rough relationship with his mom, and he said, my mom broke me, and it feels like I never put myself back together. So the love of your mom, it can build you up. And if your mom is your first bully, it can destroy you in the worst of ways. You know what I mean? And I think Gigi Goode was so good on this show because she's had a mom who believed in her, and I had a mom who believed in my mother, believed that the sun rose when I woke up and it set when I went to sleep. She really did. My mother would call me, minimum once a month just to pick up the phone, and she'd go, I just want you to know you're funnier than Bianca Del Rio. Then she would hang up the phone, and we would keep it pushing. Like, my mother believed in me so much. And so anyone asks me, why am I overly confident? One is because I'm amazing.

[B]

Duh.

[A]

And two is because my mom told me I was. And my mother would never lie to me. Well, that's why she lied to me.

[B]

That's why we love your mother, and that's why we love all the house mothers, too.

[A]

For what?

[B]

The other piece that you just said. But it's important to have somebody that's there that encourages you and tells you that you can do it. Cause sometimes we just don't know it's true. You know, we don't.

[A]

It's so, so true.

[B]

Okay, let's wake this damn game up. So we're returning to your Drag Race roots. We are about to play a little game, and it's going to be called that's so Snatched. Okay, now, we can't go as hard as the Queens, obviously, but I live for impressions, and I wanted to face off against one of the greats.

[A]

Now, I am great at Snatch Game because the rule of Snatch Game is to make RuPaul laugh. And I can always make anyone laugh. But my. I am not good at impersonations. But I am obsessed with doing. Yeah, I love doing impersonations.

[B]

It's all about having fun. So, pretty much, we're gonna call out a celebrity name and a situation and try to do their impersonation in that situation.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Okay. Whoopi Goldberg on a first date.

[A]

Here we go. I gotta tell you, the state, it's going really well. But I'm wondering, when the check comes, who's gonna be paying for it? I mean, I'm not an old school kind of girl, and I'm willing to split the check with you, but I do believe that every once in a while, if you're asking me to pay for it, I don't know my best whoopee.

[B]

Okay, here's one.

[A]

I love how deep her voice is. I am. When I tell you I'm obsessed with her. I was watching Sister Rick last night, being like, my gosh, she looks so beautiful in this movie.

[B]

So gorgeous.

[A]

The top with her. And what's her name? Oh, my gosh, she's Laurence Fishburne's wife in Wackish.

[B]

Oh, Jennifer Lewis.

[A]

Jennifer Lewis. Jennifer Lewis.

[B]

Yeah. Jennifer Lewis.

[A]

Jennifer Lewis.

[B]

Awesome, everybody.

[A]

Jennifer Lewis. Looking so beautiful.

[B]

Yes. She was always looking.

[A]

Oh, my God, how she looked. She should have had a bigger role in Sister Act 2.

[B]

Cause it's like, when you're saying. It's like I'm thinking about it, it's like a blip in my mind.

[A]

Her role, it literally is a blip. She's one of the dancers and singers, and then she vanishes. General Lewis.

[B]

But do you know, originally that role. And look, if I'm wrong, tear me up in the comments, but originally the role of Whoopi Goldberg in. Was Fran Drescher.

[A]

I thought Fran. I thought it was Bette Midler.

[B]

I thought it was.

[A]

I don't. So I don't know what the truth is. What's the tea?

[B]

We were both so ready.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I live for entertainment and arts. Like, tea like that.

[A]

You know, Fran Drescher was the president of sag. She not playing games.

[B]

She's on our ass.

[A]

She had her papers.

[B]

She's like, y' all not doing enough for the actress.

[A]

You know, the white woman stacking papers. She ain't playing games. Would a white woman do this? Somebody fired?

[B]

You gotta check. Okay, here's one for me.

[A]

Okay, here we go. Let's do Barack Obama working at the Waffle House.

[B]

How you doing, sir? So we got eggs, we got bacon, we got grits. But as far as I'm concerned, you look like you need a special. So tell me what you want, sir.

[A]

Okay, can I try? Here we go.

[B]

Please, please.

[A]

Welcome to Waffle House. Here we do have eggs, we do have grits. We even have orange juice. But we do not have universal healthcare, and that is what we need.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, we need so much.

[A]

Bubbleglobe's got it. When he talks, he talks real slow. Then he speeds it up.

[B]

In the end, that's exactly how he talks.

[A]

I was talking to Michelle.

[B]

Okay. Alan cummings, shopping at home goods.

[A]

All right, here we go. I think I'm after shopping at home goods. He's at the register.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We have several things here in front of us, and I don't know which one is a good thing or a bad thing. So here I am with a candlestick, and I don't know if it is a good one or a bad one. So before you check out, please reveal. Are you a good candlestick or a bad one? Thank you.

[B]

That was so good.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Okay, last one for me on here.

[A]

How it works. Bob gives it. Give back. Okay. I'm gonna cry.

[B]

I know. It's so hard to read. Sorry about that.

[A]

These glasses aren't prescription.

[B]

I know they're not.

[A]

No, but they're. Isn't this pear eyewear? Get into it. Pear eyewear.

[B]

I love that you can change the colors like that, girl. Cause the white is giving everything it needed to be given.

[A]

It's great. Okay, can I tell you about who are theater kids who've made it as pop stars?

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Theater kids make the best pop stars.

[B]

Because that's what it is. First of all, I can tell you three. Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, Ariana.

[A]

Yes. Madonna, Chapel, Ron. These are all theater kids who have become pop stars. Now, unfortunately, rarely, you can be an actual Broadway actor. Go, pop star. I think Ariana might be the only one who's been Broadway actor, pop star. But they won't. The world won't respect you as a pop star if they know you was on Broadway.

[B]

And jazz hands, like, why do y' all hate jazz hands? When do jazz hands become so inappropriate?

[A]

But when you do it the other way around. Because Madonna's a theater kid. Gaga is a theater kid. Nicki Minaj is literally. These are theater kids who just happen to be the world's most famous pop stars.

[B]

Literally.

[A]

Cynthia could have been a pop star.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. And she making music now.

[A]

But she's a theater kid. But she's a theater kid, though.

[B]

Yeah. And there they.

[A]

She's a theater kid first. So we will listen to the music. We will give you the Audra McDonald treatment. We'll give you the Eliza Minnelli treatment. We'll give you. We'll listen. But you know, there are certain people like Jennifer. Jennifer Hudson.

[B]

Yes. Heard her sing in person.

[A]

They always want to hear her sing someone else's songs. They will listen to her songs. But we want to hear you sing a song.

[B]

I don't like living under your sunlight of my lungs. Yeah.

[A]

Do you ever do. What's the. What's the. Okay. It's an impersonation of an impersonation.

[B]

Somebody that just impersonated Jennifer.

[A]

Is someone impersonating Countess Vaughn? Impersonating.

[B]

When she was on that show with Usher? No.

[A]

Who's Jillian from Philly? She's impersonating Jill Scott when she goes. What she does when she goes. It's so good. Countess Vaughn doing Jill Scott. You have to Google it.

[B]

I seen somebody impersonating Jennifer Hudson on the show talking to Angela.

[A]

Oh, you're here. That's what it is. You're here. Oh, yeah.

[B]

I get you some grits and eggs and some Vaseline.

[A]

Please get countless.

[B]

Vaughn. Yes. Always is talking about products.

[A]

Yeah, Very much so.

[B]

Vaseline, Gritson, eggs. Get the mop and brew.

[A]

Jill Scott, we know you doing product placement. We know it's product placement. We know you got paid. We know Vaseline paid you. Vaseline did their big one. Vaseline got us to call petroleum jelly Vaseline.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Band Aids did their big one. We call every bandage.

[B]

That's so. I always think about that. We call every girdle Spanx, Chapstick. Like, it's a brand.

[A]

All lip balm. We're calling Chapstick. They. They did their big one. Like, okay, Xerox, Chapstick, Vaseline, Spanx, Band Aids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They own the whole industry.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

It's kind of crazy.

[B]

And anytime we see a cream in between, a sandwich cookie, Oreo.

[A]

Oreo, for sure. That's an Oreo.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

No, it's a sandwich cookie.

[B]

Isn't that crazy?

[A]

You have a favorite ice cream.

[B]

Oh, my favorite ice cream. I'm going, well, ice cream or popsicle ice cream? Are you a popsicle ice cream? Butter pecan.

[A]

You're a popsicle girl, though, huh?

[B]

Popsicle girl. I like the red, white, and blue. I mean, Nothing by me. America.

[A]

No America. I like a star spangled pop stick. I. I really like. Baby, I'm gonna tell you right now, this ice cream is game changing.

[B]

Come on, put me onto something.

[A]

Once you have it, everything else will be a second choice. Ben and Jerry's Chubby Hubby.

[B]

Now what does it involve? Cause what's a Chubby and a Hubby?

[A]

It's pretzels. It is peanut butter, it is chocolate in a vanilla base. And I think there might be some caramel in it. Nothing matters. There was a period of time during COVID where I. I gained like £30 on Chubby Hubby alone.

[B]

It's that damn good.

[A]

A pint a night. A pint of ice cream every night. Babe of Chubby Hubby. It was so good and I regret nothing.

[B]

I'm going home and trying this immediately.

[A]

It's amazing. It's always out.

[B]

I love having you on the show. You are just a ball, honey.

[A]

Oh, thank you. Well, I guess I'm gonna give you my phone number after this and we'll see if I can.

[B]

Wait a minute. Is the AC on?

[A]

I'll see if Sharon answers.

[B]

Is the AC AC on?

[A]

Trans gonna be like, wow, Bobby, Greg, do we hug?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, we gotta hug. Yobo.

[B]

Whether you're moving through grief, chasing a dream, figuring out love, or just trying to find your light, there's something in Bob's journey for all of us. I mean, he's an example that humor and heart can coexist and that relationships don't have to follow any rules to be real. And with his book, he's helping to breathe new life into crucial figures from black history in a way that is fearless, refreshing, and unforgettable. And that I appreciate. So let's be like Bob, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Always bold, honest, and always evolving. I'll see you next time. You know it's your girl. Baby. This is kk. Baby, this is Kiki Palmer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Baby, this is Keke Palmer is hosted and executive produced by me, Keke Palmer. Lucas Siegel is our post producer. Our producers are Lauren Hampton and Molly nestor. Hilary Esty McLaughlin is our executive producer. Production services provided by Evolution Media. Our original theme song was written and performed by me, Kiki Palmer for team Kiki. My producer is Sharon Palmer for Wondery. Our managing producer is Olivia Fonti. Senior managing producer is Nick Ryan. And our executive producers are Emily Feldbrake, Erin o' Flaherty and Marshall Louie.