Re-Release: Legacy, Loss & Laughs with Marlon Wayans

Summary

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Podcast Summary: “Re-Release: Legacy, Loss & Laughs with Marlon Wayans”

Baby, This is Keke Palmer – Sept 8, 2025

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Overview

On this lively, candid, and profound episode, Keke Palmer sits down with comedy icon Marlon Wayans. Their conversation journeys through Marlon’s family legacy, the healing power of comedy, loss, fatherhood, ownership in entertainment, and Marlon’s experiences raising a trans son. Together, they reflect on the meaning behind their work, growing up in iconic families, and the ever-evolving landscape of Black entertainment. Expect wit, warmth, and a lot of laughter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Entering Marlon’s Mind: On Creativity, Clarity, and Grief

[02:52–05:41]

• Marlon reveals he doesn't listen to music during downtime:
  “I need to hear my thoughts. I’m looking for clarity. I’m looking for God… I’d rather just create mine through God and silence.” (Marlon Wayans, 02:58)
• Comedy for Marlon comes from introspection—seeing his mind as a TV to project stories rather than being saturated by pop culture.
• On losing his parents and channeling pain into comedy:
  “Comedy is the layers of an onion… until you take the things that make you cry, and you find joy and humor in that... you become like a biblical story.” (Marlon Wayans, 06:20)

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2. Navigating Trauma, Artistry, and Growth

[06:57–09:49]

• Keke and Marlon connect over using humor as survival and processing familial pain.
• Marlon on growth through trauma:
  “When you get older, you have a baby, you deal with relationships, and now, you’re your mother… How do I take and rescue my mom through myself?” (Marlon Wayans, 08:25)
• Both discuss ADHD, self-medicating with creativity, and the journey from “silly” to meaningful comedy.

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3. The Wayans Family Code & Legacy

[11:55–14:10]

• Marlon provides colorful insight into family dynamics: from barbecues to “passing the baton” of humor and their unique code for inside jokes.
• Gift exchange: Marlon gifts Keke official Wayans merch, reinforcing family as community in the industry.
• Keke poses, “What has happened to the art of satire?”—sparking a critique on the contemporary comedy landscape.

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4. Satire, Social Media, and the Role of Comedy

[15:04–18:34]

• Marlon attributes diminished satire to “social media bots” causing fear and insecurity in creators.
  “They wanted to put a kibosh on [us laughing together], and they did… The narrative that ‘people don’t want to laugh’—it’s not true.” (15:04)
• He emphasizes being a “scientist” in comedy, finding ways to approach taboo topics empathetically and skillfully.
• Keke raises how comedy historically sparked important social conversations.

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5. Black Representation, Ownership & Creating Spaces

[19:26–21:54]

• Both discuss the importance of Black ownership in entertainment and collective collaboration.
• Marlon: “Ownership was big… We were trying to do what they did in the ‘60s, ‘70s, and ‘80s... to tell our stories.”
• Marlon advocates for artists to find “intentionality behind the joke—what’s the elixir?” He explains the depth of storytelling in standup specials:
  “My elixirs are usually love… even with my dead parents, the elixir was: here’s how I got through grief and to acceptance.” (20:47)

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6. Fatherhood, Acceptance, and Marlon’s Journey with His Trans Son

[21:41–24:16]

• Discussing his upcoming special, Marlon shares his process of acceptance raising Kai, his trans son.
• Profound moment:
  “God put me through this journey… They were just a vessel for my personal growth… As I was losing my girl and my daughter and I gained a son… through the rain, there’s a rainbow—Kai—and a little pot of gold, Axel.” (22:25, 24:04)
• Keke: “That was church!” (24:16)

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7. On Stand-Up, Writing Process, and Artistic Authenticity

[27:31–29:35]

• Marlon encourages Keke to embrace stand-up, celebrating her multiplicity as performer: “You have a gift… you’re a phenom already. Go do it.”
• Reflects on being “co-dads” and the Wayans family’s hands-on legacy-building.

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8. Building the Wayans Legacy—From Example to Execution

[30:01–31:55]

• Marlon credits disciplined upbringing:
  “My father… was very disciplined about coming home to his kids… Kenan learned to be an example.”
• He describes how Kenan nurtured the younger siblings, exposing them to Hollywood and possibility.

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9. On Impact, Flowers, and Staying Busy

[33:12–35:14]

• Marlon: “We’re not guys that… look for flowers. I’m too busy planting new trees.”
• Defines success as being authentically himself rather than working for awards.

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10. The Power of Comedy as Healing

[34:21–35:26]

• Marlon: “If you don’t like my stuff, maybe I ain’t for you right now… but the ones I’m for, you know where to find me.”

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11. Scary Movie 6 and Upcoming Projects

[35:26–36:09], [43:08–43:22]

• Marlon confirms working to “put the band back together” for the new Scary Movie.
• Writers include Marlon, Shawn, Ivory, Rick Alvarez, and nephew Rick.

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12. On Individuality Within a Strong Family

[36:04–37:55]

• “I love all my siblings. I don’t want to be them. I want to be me… sometimes the path means cutting through new bushes to find water.”
• Marlon stresses each person’s right to trailblaze.

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13. Next Gen Wayans: From Farming to Philanthropy

[39:06–40:41]

• Discusses the younger Wayans working in music, film, and content—declaring the move from “industry” to “education” to “philanthropy.”

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14. Building A Brand vs. Going Viral

[40:09–41:14]

• Marlon urges the new generation: “Do it all… but get your ass on stage. Then, when you’re doing your sketches, you know what’s funny and what’s not. Comedy’s about appropriateness.”

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15. Movie Highlights and Authentic Experiences

[43:22–47:04]

• Marlon speaks on working with Jordan Peele and director Justin Tipping on Him, a psychological sports thriller.
• Discusses his physical transformation, performance, and empowering artists to “create your own opportunity.”

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16. On Self-Investment & Betting on Yourself

[48:21–50:54]

• Marlon recounts producing A Haunted House for $1.5M, to make their own path after the Scary Movie franchise was taken:
  “Just cause one monkey don’t stop a show. Just ‘cause one door closes, 1,000 open.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Comedy is the layers of an onion, and until you take the things that make you cry and you find joy and humor in that… you become like a biblical story.” (Marlon Wayans, 06:20)

• “When I was younger, I was silly. My comedy was different… Now, for me, it’s a show.” (Marlon, 09:49, 27:31)

• “We’re not guys that… look for flowers. I’m too busy planting new trees to try and pick up or accept flowers. My hands are dirty. I’m about this work.” (Marlon, 33:12)

• On legacy: “Ownership changed the game entirely.” (Keke, 19:26)

• “If you have the skill set, you never need to do that (compromise yourself). Bet on yourself.” (Marlon, 46:33, 48:36)

• “You gotta be authentic, right? 100%, 150% authentic at all times.” (Marlon, 35:14)

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Fun & Games: “One's Gotta Go” Lightning Round

[52:03– end]

Keke challenges Marlon to eliminate one icon from classic Black rap legends, sitcoms, movie franchises, and TV moms—with much reluctance and plenty of laughter:

• Rap Legends (Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z): Marlon, an East Coast loyalist, says: “Pac gotta go.” (53:07)
• 90s sitcoms (Martin, Fresh Prince, Jamie Foxx, Wayans Bros.): Marlon ultimately, humorously, eliminates “Fresh Prince.”
• Movie Franchises: “Scream gotta go. I am not gonna do that to any of our establishments.” (58:18)
• TV Moms: After much back and forth, Marlon eliminates different options, showing how difficult Black TV nostalgia is to rank.

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Notable Timestamps

• Legacy, Trauma & Creativity: 02:52–06:20
• Family, Grief & Growth: 06:57–08:52
• Satire & Comedy’s Power: 15:04–18:34
• On Stand-Up & Wayans Family: 27:31–30:01
• Next Generation Wayans: 39:06–40:41
• Brand-building Advice: 40:09–41:14
• Scary Movie 6 Details: 43:08–43:22
• Self-Investment (Haunted House story): 48:21–50:54
• “One's Gotta Go” game: 52:03–end

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Tone & Rapport

This episode is vibrant, candid, and filled with the warmth of two performers who understand the intersection of Black culture, pain, joy, and legacy. Both are quick-witted, self-deprecating, and unafraid to get real about topics like trauma, authenticity, and the business of entertainment. Marlon is vulnerable yet hilarious; Keke is disarming and insightful.

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Episode Takeaway

“Baby, this is more than laughs.”
Marlon Wayans and Keke Palmer remind us that comedy is not just about entertainment, but real survival, truth-telling, and generational healing. Their conversation brims with lessons about authenticity, embracing change, and always betting on yourself—not for validation, but for legacy.

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Transcript

[Keke Palmer]

Y'. All. Today's guest is a true comedy king. A writer, actor, producer, and part of one of the most iconic families in entertainment history. From flipping horror on its head with scary movie, to giving us cult classics like White Chick, to his latest role as a football legend with a sinister side in his new movie, Him Baby. This is Marlon Wayans. He's getting into grief, growth, legacy, and the realest version of fatherhood. And his new comedy special about his trans son, Kai. And you know, I had to get into who the finest Wayans brother really is. Spoiler, Marlon. So let's get into the show. No matter what we doing in the car. Just chilling, pop on Amazon music, sit back and listen. Life, love, sex, science, hovering it all, especially the bad. Cause money always evolved. No matter what it is, we gonna make it make sense. Nothing else to do but kick it with the homies and kings. So grab you a drink and a snack, you enjoy. And get into the vibe. Only you know it's your girl. This is Kiki, baby. This is Kiki Palma. Yeah. This episode is presented in partnership with Airbnb. Baby, summer's calling, and she's got one thing on her mind. Your next getaway. My take. Plan your trip by searching guest favorites on Airbnb because these most loved homes are ready for your next adventure. Let's get into it. Okay, Marlon, you know, I'm so happy to have you on the show because I've been wanting this for a long time.

[Marlon Wayans]

Well, I told you, you have to earn it. You know, I'm approved. I don't just give it up.

[Keke Palmer]

Cause I'm like, why you on all.

[Marlon Wayans]

These give these podcasts?

[Keke Palmer]

You're on all these other people's podcasts. You ain't came to baby. This is Keke Palmer. You know I'm your number one fan.

[Marlon Wayans]

I saved the best for last. See that? That boy learned how to do it.

[Keke Palmer]

You too slick. You too slick.

[Marlon Wayans]

That boy know how to do it.

[Keke Palmer]

Now, y' all know we do the pre show. The pre show questionnaire. So let me see what you. What you. I gotta get into this chicken scratch.

[Marlon Wayans]

I wr. That's how you know who creative is. Possible creative geniuses are. Cause the handwriting is terrible.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, you definitely up there. So today I'm giving dopeness with a side of goodness. That feels good.

[Marlon Wayans]

That feels good. But read more.

[Keke Palmer]

Cause I'm sprinkling what you're sprinkling. Well, today's mood is a bit of I don't give a sprinkle on top.

[Marlon Wayans]

Sprinkled on top.

[Keke Palmer]

I love that you're that.

[Marlon Wayans]

That's how I sprinkle that. I don't give a. On top of dopeness and goodness. But you gotta sprinkle. So I' ma don't give a' Caus these some judgmental nowadays. Can I curse on your podcast?

[Keke Palmer]

You can curse.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, I thought we were still on Disney. I was like, I don't want to disrespect your Nickelodeon deal, but we still.

[Keke Palmer]

Daddy got Nickelodeon money.

[Marlon Wayans]

Hey, but, yeah, get all that money.

[Keke Palmer]

This is Amazon.

[Marlon Wayans]

Hey, Amazon's open.

[Keke Palmer]

Amazon's open.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, get that, Bezos. Check.

[Keke Palmer]

Now, wait a minute. It says. What did you listen to on the ride here? My thoughts. My own insanity.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah, I don't listen to a lot of music.

[Keke Palmer]

You don't listen to music? That's kind of a new thing to hear you say.

[Marlon Wayans]

I never knew that because it's a distraction. I need to hear my thoughts. I'm looking for clarity. I'm looking for God. And so when I go walk, I like to listen to books. I wanna think and grow rich. I'm thinking about, you know, legacy. I'm thinking about branding. I have so many things in my head. I'm thinking about sets that I don't wanna listen to other people's material because I don't wanna search out for my material. I need to search inward if I want great material. I gotta talk, think about my pain. I gotta think about my trauma. I gotta think about the trauma I've given others. And I gotta think, how do I make that and transpose that into hilarity? And if I'm listening to music, then I'm listening to somebody else's art. And I'd rather just create mine through God and silence.

[Keke Palmer]

I'm not mad at that. Because sometimes if you're not insular enough, then you don't know what. What's your idea or what's someone else's idea? Obviously, we're all inspired by ideas, but you know what I'm saying. I was just talking to a friend about that, where I was sharing something and I was like, let me pull back for a second real quick because I haven't really formulated it completely with myself. So before you start adding on top of it, let me go back to the drawing board, because I don't want you to ingest my mind when I haven't really fully closed it out. So I absolutely.

[Marlon Wayans]

Let me finish my thought. But you know what? I don't watch a lot of TV anymore because how did that stop you? Think my mind is the tv. I'd stop when I said I know enough about the world and about people that I need to really figure me out. And I need to talk to God. Cause he's the source and my therapist. Cause that's the other source. And I need to figure out how I can take myself and be a prism to infect the world with whatever lessons and drama and trauma I've been through and, and give them laughter.

[Keke Palmer]

So that's what I know with most of your material. A lot of times you do talk about your family and stuff like that. But when it comes to pop culture or like just conversational stuff that's happening in the culture and society, do you just get it from social media? If you gonna get into some news or something happening with the day, it's too easy.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah, it's too easy for me to look at a newspaper and go, okay, Nick, what did Trump do today? You know what I mean? Slavery back or what? You know what I mean? It's always slavery back or what?

[Keke Palmer]

Literally the. Or like when is it like.

[Marlon Wayans]

And when we do, do we get a day off? You know what I mean? You don't know. It's too easy for me to look at the newspaper, for me to look at, you know, pop culture music. You know what I mean? What did Kanye, what did his crazy ass say today? It's too easy. What did I go through that hurt me that I can go, what's funny about this? How can I rescue myself and others? I lost my parents. I lost my mother and my father and it's okay, but.

[Keke Palmer]

But it's terrible. I'm sorry about that. I mean, we all will lose at some point, but it's terrible. I'm sorry.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh yeah, you got yours, right?

[Keke Palmer]

Thank yes.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh yeah, boy call me in 40 years when they go, boy, I'm right here, baby girl.

[Keke Palmer]

40 years.

[Marlon Wayans]

We enjoy em.

[Keke Palmer]

I'll be 80. No, I'm not 40 yet. I'll be 70.

[Marlon Wayans]

You're 40?

[Keke Palmer]

No, I'm not. I'm 32. But, but I mean that feels 40.

[Marlon Wayans]

No, but you look like a baby. You still look like you on.

[Keke Palmer]

You know, I've been working.

[Marlon Wayans]

Is it Disney or Nickelodeon?

[Keke Palmer]

It's both. You know, I had to get every check I can get.

[Marlon Wayans]

You got two monies. Damn. You was competing against yourself, literally betting against me.

[Keke Palmer]

We got jump in over here. We got Rags and True Jackson. Yeah, good.

[Marlon Wayans]

But yeah, losing your parents really give you some real self discovery because there's a lot of healing involved in that kind of grieving process. And I learned when I did this, I did a special called Good Grief about my parents passing and how I got through it. That was, to me, my best work. Because I think comedy is the layers of an onion. And until you get to the place where you take the things that make you cry, you're in the center of that onion and the things that make you cry, and you find joy and humor in that. And then other people, when they go through it, they're like, thank you for that. Because now you become like a biblical story. Right.

[Keke Palmer]

There's something that I have to talk to you about that I've been. I don't want to say struggling with, but I've been tampering with in my mind, as somebody who initially, when I came into the industry, it wasn't like I was like, I'm a comedian or something like that, but I always use performance in entertainment as a form of survival, as a form of coping. Like, it just was in my household. You know what I saw, the fact that my parents weren't always able to be emotionally available, what they were dealing with the stress of my dad getting up and going work at a factory and just all of that, I've transported that into my humor and my jokes, and I'll be the relief. But now, at 32, I feel something changing in me where it's like, well, what. What if it's not just for that? Do you get what I'm saying? Where it's like, if the only way that I get into this space is it in this place of service, and is it in this place of always taking something from my pain?

[Marlon Wayans]

Well, there's.

[Keke Palmer]

It's both. I love it. But then also, it's. You can.

[Marlon Wayans]

There's layers to it. Right. So it's easy. When you're younger, your first material, your first thing you can pull from your parents, because that's your first loves, that's your first bit of trauma that you're gonna get from people is from your parents, unfortunately. And there's no perfect parenting. As much as parents try to offer you the best life, they're gonna make mistakes. Why did you send me to private school? I would have learned how to fight early. If I sent you to public school. These are the things that my kids are saying, like, what are you talking about?

[Keke Palmer]

That's too funny.

[Marlon Wayans]

But then when you get older and you start experiencing your trauma and you have a baby, and then you have to deal with a relationship, and now you're your mother.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

And now you're going. How do I take and rescue my mom from through myself? What am I not gonna take that she took. Where am I gonna. Or what am I gonna learn that My mother tried to teach me that. Oh, in this moment, I should behave this way.

[Keke Palmer]

And how else can I deal with my trauma outside of performing?

[Marlon Wayans]

That's what. That's the gift. No, but that's the gift. And that's why you're so talented. Because you. You have absolute adhd. I know for a fact, two of us together. We need Ritalin, bro. Like with the ad itself, it's crazy. We are whatever drug. What is that? What's the. What's the drug? ADHD drug. What's that?

[Keke Palmer]

Ritalin. We're the ad.

[Marlon Wayans]

What's the other? It's Ritalin and something else.

[Keke Palmer]

Adderall.

[Marlon Wayans]

Adderall. Oh, man. We need to do a nigga. We need to do a whole sponsorship. Today's podcast is brought to you by Ritalin.

[Keke Palmer]

Well, we'll be like this. Woo. Today's podcast by Ritalin Focus.

[Marlon Wayans]

But yes, I mean, that's a gift. And that you learned that you take your pain or you take your love, or you take your hurt, or whatever you take. And it could be goodness too. See, when I was younger, I was silly. My comedy was different. They were like Marlon too silly.

[Keke Palmer]

Oh, no, always my fa. I love all the Wayans brothers, but you know, that's cause I was closest to your age.

[Marlon Wayans]

You was like, no, my Damon too old. I can't have a crush on homie to clown.

[Keke Palmer]

But the way I did hear. So you've always been the finest, funniest, my favorite Wayans. That's the facts.

[Marlon Wayans]

Shawn is definitely the finest.

[Keke Palmer]

But why do people always say no? He was not. He just.

[Marlon Wayans]

If I was a girl, I'd be like, marlon, make me laugh. But I'm Sean.

[Keke Palmer]

But I heard that Damon is the one stealing people's girls. Like, what is this?

[Marlon Wayans]

You was watching tmz? No, Damon, no. TMZ asked me. Cause Damon had dated one of a girl that my nephew had dated and he actually fell in love. There's one girl that Craig was talking to but wasn't in love with her. Damon actually fell in love. And then TMZ asked me, and in my family, there's no drama. And anytime you come to me with drama, I'm gonna answer it with comedy. So they asked me, what do you think about Damon stealing your nephew's girl? I said, that's just Damon. All he do is steal people girlfriend you gotta stop stealing girlfriends, Damon. You stole my girlfriend. You stole Kenan girlfriend. You stole Damon's girl. Damon is Damon. You steal everybody's girlfriend. Your kid's girlfriend, Damon, stop doing that. And I do that to be funny. Damon don't really sit around. He's actually the opposite. Damon. Damon been super religious a long time. So we be in clubs.

[Keke Palmer]

Wow.

[Marlon Wayans]

And just when I'm about to like, land close a deal, here come Damon. Can I talk to you for a second? And he Jehovah Witness. So he talks to the girl about God. And I'm like, I'm trying to close this deal.

[Keke Palmer]

Right about now, he's trying to close the church deal.

[Marlon Wayans]

Do you think Jehovah would really respect you if you went home with this right now? Anybody in there was like, I'm good. It's Saturday night. I'm going to Kingdom Hall Sunday. But thank you, Marlon. He was turning them out, send them home with watchtowers. But that's Damon. Damon is not like that dude. Damon's actually always been. And all of us were solid men. My parents, my mother, my father. And we've always had. God have raised us to be solid.

[Keke Palmer]

What's it like at the barbecue? Who's on the grill, who's talking, who's quiet? Because again, as performers, everybody think everybody's always performing all the time. But that ain't how it is. A lot of times I'm one in my family that's quiet when we all get together. So at the Wayans house, who's who, what's what.

[Marlon Wayans]

Right now, them is old. So I'm the. I'm the everything. I'm cooking, I'm talking, I'm cracking the jokes. I'm the uncle that's putting too much gas on the fire. I'm serving people. But you know, when we sit down at the table, it's all fun. We just pass the baton and we just enjoy each other's company. And everybody in my family, my nieces, my nephew, my kids, everybody, everybody in our family is funny. And even though we're all funny, we all have our inside jokes about each other.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes.

[Marlon Wayans]

And that's the fun part. And then don't let company come over and don't let something be wrong. Cause we going, we got our weigh ins code. It's like you ever see a baseball team and the coach is telling you to steal base. And you know, they don't do that. They just pinch their ear and they communicate. That's how we communicate. That means look at the toes, look at the toes.

[Keke Palmer]

Hilarious.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, speaking of Wayans, I want to give you something.

[Keke Palmer]

Wait a minute.

[Marlon Wayans]

No, I bought something for you.

[Keke Palmer]

I love gifts.

[Marlon Wayans]

I know, but listen, it's not that fly. I didn't put tissue in the gifts, but it's nice. But you know, I wanted to bring you some of this from my website. Because that's official. Because you're official Wayans family.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes.

[Marlon Wayans]

So I want to bring you an official Wayans brothers shirt and a hoodie just in case you get cold. And then I bought you this truck here, Marlon. So, you know, that's on my website@marlon wayans.com. and as you see, we're brothers, we're happy and we're singing and we're colored. Give me a high five.

[Keke Palmer]

You know? I know.

[Marlon Wayans]

Well, here, you don't have to hold that. I don't want you like that. But I just wanted to gift that to you. Cause I feel like.

[Keke Palmer]

And you know, I just bought the whole Living Color set. They had it on Amazon Prime. I bought the whole set.

[Marlon Wayans]

Let's watch it. I'll watch it with you.

[Keke Palmer]

You have to. I mean, I don't know.

[Marlon Wayans]

We should sit down and watch it. You know what I want to do one day? We should do like a dope sketch show. I think that'd be fun. We would have so much fun.

[Keke Palmer]

Marlon, all you have to do is say the word and I'm there. I need to ask you this because this. First of all, you know, I grew up on. Don't be a menace. I'm going to get you, sucker. I mean, everything that you and your family have done, because not only was it funny, but you guys were such a saying things within it. And this is something that I feel. And I need to ask you what you think about that's missing with satire. First of all, we don't really have satire and parodies anymore. And if we do, they're so surface and it's just a bunch of blanket jokes. They don't really connect to anything real. It's not connected to a true message. Like, even when you think about don't be minister South Central message, message. It's like you guys were also saying stuff in it to the community about our representation in media. Even when you go all the way back to Hollywood shuffle, right? So I gotta. What has happened to the art of satire?

[Marlon Wayans]

I don't think nothing anything's happened to the art of satire except for social media, I think, has come along and has spit out a narrative that people don't laugh no More. And you know, it's not true that you can't make fun of each other no more. Those are bots from other countries that hate the fact that our United States of America was getting along, learning to laugh at each other's differences. And they wanted to put a kibosh on that, and they did. And then the media picks up, social media. Cause they've been very lazy. So they basically send the programming out to the executives. And the executives say, hey, you can't say this. And they tell the artists. And then we don't have a point of view anymore. But that's why me and my brothers joined back to scary movie 6. Cause we feel like it's time for people to get in the movie theaters and laugh again. And what your movie proved, you and Issa Rae's movie, you know, Congratulations.

[Keke Palmer]

Thank you.

[Marlon Wayans]

Because people wanna laugh. Who are you to tell us that we people don't wanna laugh? I'm on stage every weekend. You can't say that. No, you can't say that. I could say you can't do white chicks nowadays. No, you can't. I can. We did the first one. You don't think I know how to make the second one? That's why I stay on stage. Because I wanna be a scientist when it comes to the art of comedy. Don't tell me that I can't say it. Tell me how I can. And so I don't think it's the audience. I think it's the narrative that social media has put out there to the media that's infected. And now everybody's so scared to spend their money. But I think for artists like you and I, we go, that's a good thing. Because, you know, now, trust me with the joke. I know how to do this. Trust me with these stories. I know how to infect my people with my story and bring in a new audience as well.

[Keke Palmer]

And the saddest part about it is when we don't approach it from that lens, we don't get the opportunity for comedy to do what it really is supposed to do, which is it's the medicine or the conversations that we want to have. Even if I go all the way back to Norman Lear and we think about the Jeffersons, you know what I mean? Or all in the Family. Like, those conversations were so racially charged, but there was humor and comedy.

[Marlon Wayans]

But what's crazy is now they try and act like racism don't exist. People are acting like what's happening within our government, like, oh, it's all Good. There was a time we used to protest. There was a time that we wouldn't stand for this. This is a generation of people that just talk on social media, but they're not willing to be present. Right. And so you have all these. All the heroes that we had, from the Harry Belafontes to the Sidney Poitiers to the Muhammad Ali's to the. They was a gener full of black men that were a voice for us. Who's the voices now? Nobody want to say nothing. They just want to let all this happen.

[Keke Palmer]

I think we do have voices, but when they. Sometimes it gets to the point where. And I can even say for myself, sometimes there's apathy that ends up coming.

[Marlon Wayans]

Across because people don't use big words with me. Hell, you mean I didn't come over here and use a thesaurus? What's happened at that point?

[Keke Palmer]

I thought you were a doctor. According to your handwriting.

[Marlon Wayans]

Well, that's my handwriting. I cut a lot. That's just the nigga that cut class. I cut handwriting classes in English class. What's apathy? That's like sympathy's brother, right? Apathy.

[Keke Palmer]

Apathy. You get tired. Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

Exhausting apathy. Like you get exhausted. I'm feeling real apathetic right now.

[Keke Palmer]

Okay, Lope, dog, you get apathetic where you really feel like, you know, you don't know where it's going. But obviously for me, in my specific thing as an artist, I'm sure you feel the same way. I do what I can through my work. That's my voice, you know, I show it, I share it. This is how I feel. I wanna bring laughter, I wanna bring joy, I wanna bring perspective. But I do think it does get to the point where sometimes people don't know what their lane of that sense of refuge is.

[Marlon Wayans]

Because we are untethered from ourselves and from our community and from God. We live in a godless generation. Like they're not really, you know, the youth ain't really talking about that. Like, you know, my parents, you know, they were strict, they took care of us. They nowadays, hey play on the phone at 2 years old, you know, it'. I think the reality of it is we have to have a voice and lend our voice to that. In the 90s, what me and my brothers was trying to do, we were being rebellious. We was trying to do what they did in the 60s, the 70s and the 80s. And we just picked up the baton like, yo, we still have stories to tell. Yo, there are still a lot of that's going on in our communities, yeah, we have more jobs, but there's more jobs that need to be created. What about ownership? You know, so, yeah, ownership was big.

[Keke Palmer]

What you got. I mean, what you guys did, that's.

[Marlon Wayans]

What we was trying to do.

[Keke Palmer]

Ownership changed the game entirely. And even what you continue to speak about with Scary Movie and what that taught you, I remember when we sat down and you told me about that and spoke to the business to me on that. I mean, how do we recreate a space, especially community and culturally, for us to collab in that way again?

[Marlon Wayans]

Hey, man, I had a movie, right? I was like, yo, Kiki, I got this movie. I'm gonna send you the script. All right? Bet. I love your work. You know, you read the script. All right, let's sit down. Let's go to dinner. Come on. As one of the producers, let's go do this together. Yeah, right? And that's how you make things happen. By the way, we're working on a movie together. It can't announce it.

[Keke Palmer]

They didn't even know.

[Marlon Wayans]

But we knew we doing it. We doing it, but. And it's real, but it comes here, right? It's not being afraid to reach out, not being afraid to talk. And we gotta talk collectively. What are the agendas? What are we missing out on?

[Keke Palmer]

And even what you just said, too, about, like, whatever religion is or your background is, or your community is, whatever. I think the crux of what I'm also hearing is, like, what is it of substance that you're bringing? What is the intentionality behind the joke, behind the conversation, behind the work? And, yeah, I do feel like sometimes that, you know, I don't know. When I'm looking at something, I'm seeing something. I think that person is talented or I think that this is dope. But I'm wondering what their reason is.

[Marlon Wayans]

Message. What is the message?

[Keke Palmer]

What's the reason?

[Marlon Wayans]

And it's true. What is the message? What are you saying? Whenever I do something, I try to go, what is the elixir? Right? Even when I'm doing comedy, it's not that I'm just doing a bunch of jokes. I'm going, what is the elixir? What is the character? In my journey? And that's in standup, I put some story. What is this character getting? What is he acquiring? What does he need? Because that elixir you give to the audience, and that makes them feel good. The jokes is great, but they come back because this way they left. They were infected with something different. And that is the elixir My elixirs are usually love. I got a stand up set about my dead parents and the elixir was here's how I got through grief and here's how I got to acceptance. And I used that same kind of elixir when it came to acceptance with my child. I have a whole hour on my. I have a trans child. And I was just like, yo, here's the journey I went through.

[Keke Palmer]

That's your new show, Wild Child.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah.

[Keke Palmer]

Where you get to talk about.

[Marlon Wayans]

No, I'm gonna do a special on it. I'm probably gonna call the special Somewhere under the Rainbow. And I plan to film that in the summer and figure out who's gonna.

[Keke Palmer]

Congratulations on that.

[Marlon Wayans]

Thank you. I'll figure out who's gonna distribute it or what streamer it's gonna be on. But, you know, it's a beautiful hour and people love the fact that, you know, I start here and I say all kinds of crazy from this angle, but then I get to. And that's in the five stages of grief that I went through to get to acceptance, which is denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and then acceptance.

[Keke Palmer]

What was the place of acceptance that you think you like? When you got there, what was it that you had to accept the most.

[Marlon Wayans]

That it wasn't for? It wasn't about them? God put me through this journey and they were just a vessel for my personal growth.

[Keke Palmer]

This is your parents that you're talking about?

[Marlon Wayans]

No, this is my child.

[Keke Palmer]

This is my Kai. Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

And what I went through with Kai, I was still healing from my parents and didn't understand that I haven't accepted yet. And when I got to that acceptance and I was just like, oh, this is what God is trying to do. He's trying to lighten my load. He's trying to uplift me. And through this vessel, this thing that I have to change for because it's my child, I learned acceptance. And that God writes your story personally for you. If you think you are God and you're gonna judge your child, you are wrong. God has only given you that mirror for you to look at yourself and go, I need the healing. It's not them. They're doing what they gotta do for their journey to be happy. And then God was like, what are you doing for your journey to be happy? And I was like, oh, so what.

[Keke Palmer]

Did that make you want to figure out what your journey that you needed to be happy with? I mean, sure, many things.

[Marlon Wayans]

My journey after losing my parents, that do you know, life after death is a whole nother life.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

And it's one that you have to come to grip with. And a lot of people struggle with, and there's a depression involved. And it really was a synonymous journey. My healing and grieving with my parents, and then my journey with Kai, and then through all of this, God gave me this little gift. As I was losing my girl and my daughter and I gained a son, God gave me this little gift called a little brand new, little baby girl.

[Keke Palmer]

Brand new.

[Marlon Wayans]

And look at how God gives you. Through the rain, there's a rainbow, which is Kai, and a little pot of gold, which is Axel. Damn, that was prolific. You know, I'm done.

[Keke Palmer]

Damn it.

[Marlon Wayans]

Call Amazon. Tell them. Get this boyish Amazon called Nickelodeon and Disney. Damn, Bow, that was church. I made that up. On the top of the dough. I need to.

[Keke Palmer]

No, he didn't.

[Marlon Wayans]

That was off the top of the dough.

[Keke Palmer]

No, he didn't.

[Marlon Wayans]

I need. Listen, here's what I gotta do.

[Keke Palmer]

He's really remarkable, ingenious. All this he wrote before he came here.

[Marlon Wayans]

Off the top of the. Do not believe that's not my painting towel on me.

[Keke Palmer]

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[Marlon Wayans]

I started standing up late. That's why I always told you like when you was talking about doing standup, I was like, oh, do it. Cause you're gonna be brilliant. Because what people don't understand is it doesn't take me long. It didn't take me long to really grab onto standup. And once I did, it became dangerous, right? Because I was no longer telling jokes. Now, for me, it's a show. I know how to do characters. I know how to do voices. I know how to remember scripts. I could do a whole television show which is 40 something pages. I can do 47 pages. I can do that in four days. Even though they're changing what the material is, I own that. I perform it. They put it out there in the world to be seen. I don't need three years, five years to write and learn material and try it out bits by bits. No, I could take a whole Hour, Take it on the road and rewrite it along the way. And in four months, I could drop a dope ass special. You have a gift. And the fact that you have voices and characters and you could sing, bro, you. You understand. Like, you're a phenom already. Go do it. Cause you can do whatever you want in your show. And you're gonna find when you tour with your album, that you gonna bring humor. Cause you can't help it.

[Keke Palmer]

Cause I have to. You can't help it to me. That is the language that I speak. We have to.

[Marlon Wayans]

That's why we love you.

[Keke Palmer]

Too damn serious is too wild.

[Marlon Wayans]

Exactly.

[Keke Palmer]

You gotta laugh. I mean, your brothers probably were. Obviously, they're your brothers, but also kind of parental figures because they're a lot older.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, no, them was co dads.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, Exactly.

[Marlon Wayans]

They were 16 years older than me. They were more on my parents than my parents was. My parents was like my grandparents, Kenan. We was Kenan's first kids. So before Keenan had kids, I know that he has Nala and little Keenan, but no, he had Marlon. He had Sean, Marlon, Craig, and Damion. And Shanta was his first batch of kids before he had kids. And his kids are like his grandkids. So I'm teaching his kids lessons about their dad that he tired of telling. Cause he told all of us. He's like, you tell them what I said. He don't even remember what he said.

[Keke Palmer]

So what was it like? I mean, did you. You know, because I talk about this with my family a lot. We really look up to your family. Not just because you guys are hilarious and amazingly talented, but because you have created a lineage. Lineage that continues your legacy forward. Did Kenan sit at the table and he sit down and say, this is what we gonna do and this is how we gonna do it? Or was it just keeping you guys around it and seeing who. Who spoke to what or who felt what? Like, how did y' all decide? This is a. We're the Wayans family.

[Marlon Wayans]

I think my father was a very hard worker, and he really loved God. And he was very disciplined about coming home to his kids. And having a father figure in our household was everything, because that spoke to us. No matter what happened during the day, no matter how many times my mother would curse my father out, my father was like, unweathered. I am coming home, and I'm going to be with my children. I'm going to raise my boys. I'm going to raise my daughters. I'm gonna make sure that I am a Figure I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna read my. To be an example. My mother was just brilliantly talented, like a frustrated artist, and she was brilliant, and she gave us love. And what Kenan learned from my mother and my father was to be an example and to give us love. So Kenan just was that guy that he sent me and Sean when Damon was getting in trouble. Damon came out to California, stayed with Kenan, worked in the mailroom, worked his way up. Kim left college, finished college, and came out to California. And Kenan was like, here's what you do. Me and Sean and Craig and Damian. He would bring us out to California in the summertime or in wintertime and let us spend a week outside of the projects to see what it was to be in Hollywood. So he infected us by example. And it wasn't that he pushed this on us. It was just something that we wanted to do. And he was like, okay, well, this.

[Keke Palmer]

Is how you do it, right?

[Marlon Wayans]

When I saw my brother on Johnny Carson when I was.

[Keke Palmer]

I mean, that's crazy.

[Marlon Wayans]

Five on a black and white tv. And, you know, I'm dreaming. Me and Sean, we in our bed at night watching wpix, like, oh, we're gonna be the honeymooners. We're gonna have our own sitcom. This is what we were saying at 5 and 6 years old. But to see your brother in black and white on the television, I was like, oh, wait, you mean these dreams that I have, I can actually make it a reality? And from there, that's all we do is try and be examples.

[Keke Palmer]

I mean, it was like. I mean, you guys just got the big. I think. What were we at the BET Awards? Were we at the naacp?

[Marlon Wayans]

NAACP Awards. And you got your award.

[Keke Palmer]

You got your.

[Marlon Wayans]

Same night. We got our flowers same night.

[Keke Palmer]

And it was the first time that I think I'd ever met Damon. And so I was, like, screaming. But I was also like, where's Kenan?

[Marlon Wayans]

I want Kenan.

[Keke Palmer]

Where are you?

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah, we wanted him home so we could pay tribute to him.

[Keke Palmer]

It was so good to see all of you guys. But what I was gonna say was, oh, doggone it. I done lost my damn train of thought.

[Marlon Wayans]

See, that's that adhd. Can we get some Ritalin, please? Some. What's that called? What's the other one?

[Keke Palmer]

I don't know. I know what I was gonna say. I think they talked about it when they did the big tribute, but just that a lot of people, I really be wanting them to pause for a moment and really understand all the different things that you guys have given us. Because the super bowl halftime show that started because In Living Color was such a huge show. They were like, oh, we need something in this time. And it was In Living Color that now that continued. But the first time was with that show. I mean, when you sit back and think of all the things that you've done, that your brothers have done, the cultural impact that you guys have made, what do you do with it? You get what I'm saying? Like, what do you do with it? And how do you feel about it in this time? I mean, when you were doing it, maybe you weren't thinking much of it.

[Marlon Wayans]

But we just keep doing it, right? We're not guys that. I don't look for my flowers or don't. I'm too busy planting new trees to try and pick up or accept flowers. My hands are dirty. I'm. About this work.

[Keke Palmer]

That's right, Marlon.

[Marlon Wayans]

About this work. You know, Idle Hands is the devil's workshop. So I don't get in no kind of nonsense or trouble. My mouth may get me in trouble, but Marlon is a hardworking man. I try to be an example for my children, an example to my community, example to my brothers and my sisters that have raised me to be this way. I know my. My parents are still watching me. I know God has watched me. So I just do the work. So I don't. The first time NAACP Awards was the first time we picked up our flowers. Like, oh, wow. We made history multiple times. We're like, that's great. We back to work. I'm looking at this scary movie 6, and I'm like, I wanna knock this out the park. I need everybody to laugh again. The purpose of this right now is I need everybody in the theaters in droves laughing again at each other. We all need to. As a world, we need to change the frequency and we. About each other.

[Keke Palmer]

And I love. While I do think it's important to get your flowers, and I always. Every time I see you, I want to give you your flowers, to give you your family of flowers. I think it's so important. Also, what you said is, at the end of the day, you do what you do because you love it. And I think a lot of times in our generation now, we spend so much time being, like, so and so's underestimated by who, right? On what grounds, to whose standards? I'm doing what I'm doing. Cause I love it. And if it touched one person, then it's done what it's supposed to Do.

[Marlon Wayans]

Because we always look at the standards of awards and things in that these acknowledgments. I don't do it for that. I do it for whoever I infect in a positive way, then I'm for you. If you don't like my stuff, maybe I ain't for you right now. Maybe in 10 years. Or you go through something in your life and then you'll figure out what the hell I was saying 10 years ago. But I'm not for everybody. But the ones I'm for, you know where to find me. And you gotta be authentic, right? 100%, 150% authentically yourself, right?

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

At all times. And either you with me or you off. It's a very simple thing. I don't ask people to do nothing. I just be me. And I hope that is good for you. And if not a little bit of sprinkle of that, I don't give a on it.

[Keke Palmer]

So speaking of Scare Movie, am I getting Shawn and you? Am I getting my duo?

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, you definitely gonna see.

[Keke Palmer]

Cause I need the duo.

[Marlon Wayans]

We trying to put the band back together.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes, I need it.

[Marlon Wayans]

We trying to put the whole band back together.

[Keke Palmer]

I mean, growing up with you and Shawn, it was just too much.

[Marlon Wayans]

I miss working with Shawn. I know. We missed Shawnee.

[Keke Palmer]

Y' all were the dude. Whether it's a show, whether it's scary movie, whatever y' all was doing. Also a sleeper. Mother Freaking the Sixth man.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, you know that one? That was supposed to be me and Shawn.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, but it was. It was.

[Marlon Wayans]

Shawn turned it down.

[Keke Palmer]

It's what's up.

[Marlon Wayans]

Kadeem Hardison.

[Keke Palmer]

Kadeem who we love.

[Marlon Wayans]

We love like brothers, but, man, you know, hey, Sean said no.

[Keke Palmer]

When did Sean be like, brother, I'm tired right now. I don't want to keep doing the movies like doing a duo.

[Marlon Wayans]

It wasn't that. I just think Sean and I, you know, like, he has a different pace than I have. I think if you look at our careers, Sean's slugging percentage is gonna be a thousand. That man goes up to the plate, he knocks it out the park. I'm gonna be the dude that gets on base a lot, that steals a load of bases. I'm gonna make history a different way. My slugging percentage over time is gonna be 700. It may not be a thousand, but you understand, I'm playing all different kinds of positions. I don't just play the outfield. I play shortstop. I'm a dramatic actor. I'm a stand up comedian. I'm dropping specials this is what I do. And as much as I love my brothers, I love Damon, I love Kenan, I love Sean, I love my sister, I love them all. I love all my siblings. I don't wanna be them. I wanna be me. And sometimes you as an individual, God gives you that time and that synapse for you to find you. And I have very opinionated brothers. And sometimes it's not that I'm a rebel, it's just that I know they raised me and they are trailblazers. But if I want to be a trailblazer, then to just follow their footprints, that makes me a follower. If I want to be a leader, I go, oh, I appreciate that path you got to. But look, we stopped right there. But maybe if, if we go over here with these bushes off, we cut this way, we gonna find that water and I may do that and fall off a cliff. But that's part of being a trailblazer because I got the next generation after me and I want them to know that. Follow me up into a point and use what works for you. But if you don't like what the I'm doing, do it your way, baby.

[Keke Palmer]

This is Kiki Palma. Yeah. Summer reading. More like summer listening. I've been living for Emily Henry's great big beautiful life on Audible, okay? It's got everything. A mysterious heiress, competing biographers, and that slow burn romance that makes you want to just throw your phone across the room. But don't. Because how else are you going to keep up listening? That would be crazy. And that's what I love about Audible. You can dive into these amazing stories while doing literally everything else. Working out listen, meal prep. Listen. Pretending to clean, but really just dancing with the vacuum, baby listen. With over a million titles and thousands included with membership, Audible's got all the audiobook, podcasts and originals you could want. Your imagination deserves this. Head to audible.com for a free 30 day trial and your first audiobook is on me. Visit audible.com k e k e and sign up today. There's more to imagine when you listen. How's it been with this next generation for you?

[Marlon Wayans]

You know, oh, they some hard headed little negroes.

[Keke Palmer]

They sound like you.

[Marlon Wayans]

They are. But it's been great. Honestly, I'm so proud of them. I look at my son and he works with Sean's daughter and he works with their other daughter and she's doing music and they're directing and producing music videos and they're writing movies and Kenan's son is creating television shows and I just look at all of our kids, and, you know, Sean's other son is a music artist, and Kai is writing movies. And this next generation is gonna understand and take the business of our business to the next level, right?

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

We were great farmers and great agriculturalists. I'm into industry. That's my job. My assignment is to build us into industry. And then after that, we're gonna go into education. And then from there, from education, they're gonna take it to the next level, which is philanthropy and the overall branding of what we set out to do. And it takes generations to do that.

[Keke Palmer]

Because there is the whole thing with the branding, too.

[Marlon Wayans]

Right?

[Keke Palmer]

You know what I'm saying? Like, the Wayans brothers, y' all didn't just make movies. Y' all also created a lane for what it meant to, like, create a brand for individuals and then as a family. Because now we're dealing with come and talent in different mediums now. We have the Kai Senats, who that's, you know, drew skis, we have the streaming, that industry, and then we have some people that are kind of getting into the art of standup, but not often. We see sketch a lot. Not. Not one centralized place outside of snl. What word of advice would you give to them on what it really means to build a brand, not just to go viral?

[Marlon Wayans]

I think you gotta do it. All right? The fear. I did a show called Funniest Wins, and we took people that were on vine, we took people that was on YouTube, we took people that did, like, TikTok sketches and stuff. And then we took one like, what are those people that do one woman shows? And, you know, they do sketch and do sketch on their Instagram, whatever. And then we took comedians, and the winners were always the comedians, because the comedians are the ones that did stand up. Right?

[Keke Palmer]

The writing, incredible craft.

[Marlon Wayans]

You gotta know what the jokes are. As much as you're making a sketch, you have an instinct, right? It's when I first started doing comedy, right, when I was 19, I had great instincts, but they weren't as sharp as Sean's, it wasn't as sharp as Damon's, not as sharp as Keenan's. But me going on the road, it's.

[Keke Palmer]

So crazy when I hear you, Seth, not want to interrupt you, but it's so crazy when I hear you say that when I would be watching these, these or these. Yeah, I'll just wear these then. Yeah, that's like. I mean, I'm thinking, do we have a problem? Like, how could that comedy not be.

[Marlon Wayans]

But that was me at 19 with the instincts that I had.

[Keke Palmer]

They were amazing instincts. They're the instincts that I emulate.

[Marlon Wayans]

But. And it's good to have those. Right? And that's what you have. You have an instinct. I'm inspired by that. I know, but that's good that you have that. But over time, I think now I'm a much better artist than I was when I was 19. 19, I was working on instinct. Now that I've been doing Stand up and I've put out now five specials. Working on my sixth special. I know how to Rock a room when I get on the next set. When I get on this scary movie set, I know where the jokes are. I know why a scene's not working. Here's what this needs. You become a professor and a scientist. I start having Keenan's eyes. Not just have Marlon's instincts. So I got Marlon's instincts. Now I have the experience of Keenan and the experience of Damon to understand where the jokes are. They're here. This is what's needed. Cause the writer in my head, and it's by doing the work. So I tell every artist, get your ass on stage. Because then when you're doing your sketches, you know what's funny and you know what's not. You won't be inappropriate. Comedy's about appropriateness. You can go far as hell. And sometimes you could go even further. But can you buy the audience back after that?

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah. Where's the content?

[Marlon Wayans]

Did you go far enough? Yes.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah. Where's the context? We lose so much of that also these days, quickly. Who's writing it? Are you guys all writing as a family? Is Kenan writing Scary Movie six?

[Marlon Wayans]

Scary Movie six. All of them. Me, Sean Ivory, Rick Alvarez, and my nephew Rick.

[Keke Palmer]

What up? Okay, I gotta move because I could keep you here all day talking.

[Marlon Wayans]

Scary Movie 6.

[Keke Palmer]

June 12, Scary Movie 6.

[Marlon Wayans]

Next summer, it's going. You know, we got these jokes, but.

[Keke Palmer]

We'Ve also got him that's getting ready to come out. Executive produced by Jordan Peele.

[Marlon Wayans]

And you work with Jordan.

[Keke Palmer]

Love Jordan.

[Marlon Wayans]

How cool is he?

[Keke Palmer]

He's amazing, isn't he?

[Marlon Wayans]

Like, he's the nicest. Like, and he's, like, quiet. And he's so funny.

[Keke Palmer]

All the funny people I know usually are not like you or I.

[Marlon Wayans]

It's just me and you. They're usually like, we have too much. Yeah.

[Keke Palmer]

They're literally like, hello.

[Marlon Wayans]

That's cause they're on their meds, they're on their Adderall, adrenaline.

[Keke Palmer]

They got the calm Juice me and you still running off the. But yeah. So how was it I was with you when you were just. You were filming. You were getting like you went through a physical transformation.

[Marlon Wayans]

I got buff.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes.

[Marlon Wayans]

I had to slim down and get that off me. Cause I don't want to live like that. I'm doing something you said.

[Keke Palmer]

I don't want to be Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

[Marlon Wayans]

I don't want to be big like that. You know. It's too much to carry. And why could you sleep in scary movies? I can't be shorty like this, son. I can't smoke my weed. It hurts to pull that weed up. These muscles is too tight.

[Keke Palmer]

Memo ole boy, take my good hand.

[Marlon Wayans]

Scare Movie 2 We gonna try and bring everybody back. When you see this. Anyway, I think people are gonna be happy about scary movie 6. Him is a different kind of movie.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

I think it's people seeing me in a different way. It's a psychological horror thriller set in the world of football. And what I love is Justin Tipping is the director. Wonderful.

[Keke Palmer]

Shout out to him.

[Marlon Wayans]

Wonderful director like this.

[Keke Palmer]

He also did kicks.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yes.

[Keke Palmer]

He gonna be from the Bay.

[Marlon Wayans]

If you get a chance, please.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, I know his works.

[Marlon Wayans]

He's a coolest guy. You should wanna work with him. He's a great collaborator. I just had a great time.

[Keke Palmer]

Tyreek Withers.

[Marlon Wayans]

Tyreek Withers does a great job.

[Keke Palmer]

And I liked his episode that he did in Atlanta.

[Marlon Wayans]

But that was cute. But his performance in this to hold it down, especially against all the crazy stuff I was giving him. For him to just stay grounded, stay there. The reactions and make you feel for his character the way he did. I just think he did a great job. So kudos to Tyree and Julia.

[Keke Palmer]

Fox plays your wife.

[Marlon Wayans]

Julia Foxx is amazing in the movie. Plays my wife. But she has a thing now that's.

[Keke Palmer]

A couple for your ass.

[Marlon Wayans]

I know. I wish I was wishing for love scenes.

[Keke Palmer]

But man, it did me.

[Marlon Wayans]

Denzel, Pelican Game did me dirty. But anyway. And then there's me. I just think it's the most untethered I've been in a movie in a dramatic way that's grounded but crazy. That's off center. The performance.

[Keke Palmer]

And this kind of covers that. Like you know, Stanley Kubrick, Eyes Wide Shut. Like Illuminati. What happens in the corporate. In the industry when you are trying to win? Like what will you do in order to.

[Marlon Wayans]

What would you sacrifice?

[Keke Palmer]

What would you sacrifice?

[Marlon Wayans]

Right. What are you willing to sacrifice? It's the question that all artists you know, and they're crazy with all this Illuminati. This. I ain't never met no Illuminati. Nobody ever came to me and was like, hey, man, you suck this. And I'm gonna give you these movies. I never met that guy. Yeah, no, never met. I never met the guy. Never. And if you ever do. And I would tell artists. That's why you take. And you equip yourself with true art, with the skill set.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

So this way you're not desperate for opportunity because you create your own opportunity.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes.

[Marlon Wayans]

I don't want to put somebody in something just so I can sleep with them. That's the law. I'd rather not sleep with you.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah.

[Marlon Wayans]

And just have you work with me. Cause that's great. I don't want to sleep with you. You sleep with me. I don't want you in my movie. I won't be around that all day long. Every. Hi, honey. That takes my energy away when I'm on set. And anytime people want to deplete you in that way, it's wrong and it's toxic. And I will tell people, don't sleep when you work.

[Keke Palmer]

This is in every industry also. Not just a lot of times. We hear about it in Hollywood, hear the concept of what people think Illuminati is, but it's in every industry. Politics. It's in the corporate offices. Anytime somebody asks you to do something you don't want to do, that you feel you have to do because it's going to get. That's pretty much in my mind, the vibes of Illuminati. Don't say it. Because it'll be one thing after. Don't do it. It's one thing after the next, after the next, after the next. That's what that means to me. It's not as plain and dry that I think people have.

[Marlon Wayans]

If you have the skill set, you never need to do that. Right. If you look at, like In Living Color, Kenan equipped J. Lo with confidence. You are a brand. You're not just a dancer. You know what? You are a good singer. You can even be a better singer if you train. You know what you are? You're the biggest movie star in the world. What does Julia Roberts or Meg Ryan have that you don't have? And it's the possibility to teach people how to dream and to believe in themselves. Don't believe in the wizard of Oz. I am not the. The person pulling the strings. When people are pulling those puppet strings, they don't love you. People that Love you just equip you with knowledge and the confidence that if you go out there and you get it, then. And that's why people love Kenan.

[Keke Palmer]

Yes. Because he tell you to invest in your damn selves. Not always coming out here with your hands out because they ain't gonna invest in the vision you want for you.

[Marlon Wayans]

Absolutely.

[Keke Palmer]

And I mean, I just want to point on this. I think after obviously everything was Scary Movie, you guys went and did Haunted House and broke records off of your own complete investment. I just want you to just school them real quick on how y' all did that.

[Marlon Wayans]

What happened was, you know, that's a movie I really was trying to do with my brothers, but my brothers were doing other things. And I was just like. And I remember I sat down with Kenan and I was just like, listen, I don't want your approval. And this was me growing up. I said, I just want your blessing. I have this thing that I want to do. He was like, go ahead and do it. I got this vision of this. Okay, bet. And I remember they were doing Scary Movie 5. And I remember how that felt for me and my family. We didn't like it. And we knew we had more to give and how the franchise was ripped from us after Scary Movie 2. And you know, I was just like, all right, well, I'm going to create something new. Like we always do. I'm going to create something new. When they canceled Wayans Brothers, we was like, great. We're doing Scary movie. Just cause one monkey don't stop a show. Just cause one door closes, $1,000 open. So when Scary Movie was happening before it even happened, I was like, here's the next thing I wanna do. Haunted House. Me and Rick sat down and we did that for a million and a half dollars. So I went back. $19 million was the first Scary Movie budget. I didn't have that. I had a million and a half dollars. And we wrote the movie. We did it in one location. Mike Titus, who's now the director of Haunted House, haun 50 Shades of Black, Sex, tuplets and Naked now is the director on scary movie 6. And so bless that brother too. Movie became huge. A haunted house. We opened the $18 million. We made the movie for a million and a half dollars. So we was already in the black first weekend. And so it's just teaching you that you always bet on yourself. I got the skill set. You can't steal my skill set. You could take the franchise. Eventually people gonna be like, nah, that that's that bull that don't taste like Wayans. That's kfc. That ain't Popeye Chicken. I know what the difference between audience ain't dumb. And so what I'm happy about is with Scary Movie 6, they get a combination of everything that I've learned over the years and a more seasoned group of artists bringing you, taking us back to the franchise that we created. Cause they don't know what to do with Frankenstein. The only person that knows what to do with Frankenstein is Dr. Frankenstein. So they got Dr. Frankenstein back and scary movie six, we're gonna knock that out the park.

[Keke Palmer]

I'm so excited. I just wanted to say that. Cause I think a lot of times, you know, today, especially with our community, we spend so much time thinking about getting the validation from this place or that place, or I need this person to say, all you need is you to say. And if you rock with it, and you got two people that's rocking with you, and they gonna help you make it to the finish line, that's all you need. And I think, you know, you guys are a great example of that.

[Marlon Wayans]

And you know what? We feel good. You know what flowers are to us. Watching people like you that come along and pave the way for the next generation and still give the forefathers their love and their flowers. And to know that we do it so that you can see it, so that you can do it, so they can see it. So you keep doing you. And I'm glad that as peers and as artists, we're gonna do something big and great together. And thank you for having me on your podcast.

[Keke Palmer]

Thank you for being here. You know, you and your family, y' all mean so much, so much.

[Marlon Wayans]

Thank you.

[Keke Palmer]

Okay, wait.

[Marlon Wayans]

And I love your daddy. He gave me the biggest hug.

[Keke Palmer]

Cause we love you.

[Marlon Wayans]

My dad, who told us gang, gang daddy.

[Keke Palmer]

He gave me the history on y' all family when I was yay high. So wait a minute. We gotta play a game. It'll be quick. It's called one's gotta go. I'm gonna give you a list of different things in different categories that are meaningful.

[Marlon Wayans]

This is the part that I get in trouble. This the part that get me canceled. Gone.

[Keke Palmer]

These categories are stacked with beloved black staples. And I mean, you know, one's gotta go.

[Marlon Wayans]

Okay. Okay.

[Keke Palmer]

So here we go.

[Marlon Wayans]

Well, besides this shirt that sells on my thing, I want to say I. I have a cigar line, Lego Tridente, if you need to check it out. Fox cigars [e-mail] they sell my cigars. Ligo, Tridente. Made in Honduras. And they're killing right now.

[Keke Palmer]

How come everybody gets an accent when they say Honduras?

[Marlon Wayans]

Because you have to. You have to respect the culture. You know what I mean? And then he never said that.

[Keke Palmer]

Honduras.

[Marlon Wayans]

Honduras. And then you have to roll the oz. Honduras. And then you can get this shirt at Marlon Wayans. Marlon Wayans dot com. And these pants. I designed these. No, I don't have a name for them, but I designed them. I was like, I'm impressed. Some skinny Kravitz jeans. You know what I mean?

[Keke Palmer]

Okay, one's gotta go. Rap legends. Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z. Yeah, get ready to cry. Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Tupac, Tupac.

[Marlon Wayans]

Biggie, Nas, Jay Z.

[Keke Palmer]

Completely unfair.

[Marlon Wayans]

Here's the thing. I'm gonna keep it a buck, all right? And I've known. I met all them.

[Keke Palmer]

You met all of them?

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah, I met them all.

[Keke Palmer]

You met Tupac and Biggie above the real.

[Marlon Wayans]

Me and Tupac were like. Me and Tupac were friends. That was my.

[Keke Palmer]

What was he like? Would he have liked me?

[Marlon Wayans]

Funny as hell. Funny as hell was. He would have liked you.

[Keke Palmer]

Why would that be the question?

[Marlon Wayans]

That's crazy. You want me to hook you up with Tupac? He's dead. But I just wanna know he would hit this. That's all I wanna know. Cause I love his eyelashes. I want my baby to have eyelashes like Tupac.

[Keke Palmer]

Skin was gorgeous. Eyelashes, everything. Okay.

[Marlon Wayans]

Anyway, Pac was a good dude, so. And with that said, I'm an East coast hip hop dude.

[Keke Palmer]

Well, yeah, y'. All from you. From New York.

[Marlon Wayans]

So you talking about Jay, Big Pop and Nas. Pac gotta go.

[Keke Palmer]

Aww.

[Marlon Wayans]

I love him like a bro. And I love Dear Mama, but come on, man. Nas.

[Keke Palmer]

I love Nas.

[Marlon Wayans]

Nas, Nas. Even later on in life, his new albums is even as good as his old albums. Jay Z, come on. You gotta put Jay in the top because Jay Z's first billionaire in the game and a huge brand, and he married Beyonce. How you not. Come on, man. He get 10 more points. Cause he married to Beyonce.

[Keke Palmer]

I agree. Cause Beyonce. Come on. 90s black sitcom kings. Martin. The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. The Jamie Foxx Show. The Wayans Brothers.

[Marlon Wayans]

You trying to get me in trouble? I ain't gonna say the Wayans Brothers, y'. All. My dad. We live since somebody else gotta die tonight. You know? I love you. Gonna die tonight.

[Keke Palmer]

Rest in peace, Pops. Oh, he's the best.

[Marlon Wayans]

The best, man.

[Keke Palmer]

The best.

[Marlon Wayans]

Bang, bang, bang.

[Keke Palmer]

Oh, my gosh. I loved him so much.

[Marlon Wayans]

We didn't make it to NBC because NBC wanted to. We did the table read and they thought he was too ghetto. And they want us to have a different father in us. Thinking like a Danny Glover type. And we was like, no, love Danny.

[Keke Palmer]

But also, I love.

[Marlon Wayans]

It's the flavor of the show. We was like, it's John Witherspoon. Or it's not. Or it's nowhere or it's not. Or we ain't gonna do the show. And they was like, well, negro, you're not doing the show. And so we was like, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Danny Glover, you say. But then, you know, the WB was starting and it was like, I think that's a great combination. So everything is God. One man's trash is another man's treasure. And it's not about the doors that close. It's the ones that open up. So with that said, you said Martin, who I French friends. Martin made me laugh even when we was doing Wayne's Brother. So he's off. I gotta put Martin over to the side.

[Keke Palmer]

Fresh Prince of Bel Air and the Jamie Foxxes.

[Marlon Wayans]

It's between Jamie and Will. Why you doing this?

[Keke Palmer]

This is so fun.

[Marlon Wayans]

Okay, now, only because. What? What happened? You said who and who. No, only because of this. Will. I just played, so I have an attachment now. I would have said Jamie Foxx.

[Keke Palmer]

Okay?

[Marlon Wayans]

I would said Will Smith. Fresh Bel Air. Gotta go. Fresh Prince. Gotta go. Bob. I would have said that.

[Keke Palmer]

You would have.

[Marlon Wayans]

I would have.

[Keke Palmer]

But you are.

[Marlon Wayans]

Here's why. Because my son. I'm a Waynes brother type of. I like poor people's perspective of comedy. Cause that's where I come from. I come from the blue collar. I come from. Hey, Looking in the closet and go. I don't know what we gonna eat today. Okay, what do we got? We got rice, eggs, and flour. We gonna have rice, eggs, flour, soup. You know, don't sound delicious, but that's what we got.

[Keke Palmer]

But it's gonna get.

[Marlon Wayans]

And Martin just has that ghetto appeal in his physical. And Jamie. Cause he could sing and all that. Will. Fresh Prince. My son loves Fresh Prince.

[Keke Palmer]

Because you said will.

[Marlon Wayans]

No, listen. No, not that. Will ain't funny. Will's funny. But my son like Fresh Prince. Cause he grew up. He is the Fresh Prince. He goes to the private schools. I don't know about private schools, except we used to jump the. And they had nice equipment to steal from. They had good Walkmans. So you want a good Walkman, go to a private school. They got the Sonys with The sport one, they can drop them water for like five seconds. Here's the thing. So with that said, I just didn't.

[Keke Palmer]

So frustrated though.

[Marlon Wayans]

No, I didn't.

[Keke Palmer]

You were good. You played the dad. You were so deep on there and.

[Marlon Wayans]

It got me invested. So now I love Jamie and I love Bentley. Evans is one of my best friends. So I don't. Will gotta go. I'm sorry. Fresh Prince gotta go.

[Keke Palmer]

It's done.

[Marlon Wayans]

Cause we don't hang out. Me and Will don't hang out. So I gotta look at Bentley tomorrow when we smoking cigars. But we gonna pick him. So I want you to know. Hey, Bent. You know what I mean? Now, I may be fired off press Bel Air, but. Hey, nigga. They canceled anyway.

[Keke Palmer]

He just dropped it. Breaking news.

[Marlon Wayans]

No, that was before they did the four season.

[Keke Palmer]

I'm playing. I'm playing.

[Marlon Wayans]

And I'm on the fourth season. I'm sorry, Jamie, gotta go. You ain't getting me fired. What if they decide to come back for season five?

[Keke Palmer]

Pick one.

[Marlon Wayans]

Jamie Foxx show. Gotta go.

[Keke Palmer]

Movie franchises. Friday, Scream. House Party. Madea.

[Marlon Wayans]

White people gotta go. Scream. Gotta go. I am not gonna do that to any of our establishments. House Party brand. I'm not gonna hate on the Friday's brand. Ice Cube. As a fellow brother, in this industry, we have too much to work toward. I can't go. Ain't no.

[Keke Palmer]

Bye, Wes Craven Scream.

[Marlon Wayans]

Gotta go.

[Keke Palmer]

We love you.

[Marlon Wayans]

Them white boys gonna work again. You know they gonna be fine.

[Keke Palmer]

Okay?

[Marlon Wayans]

They gonna be fine. Nev Campbell gonna eat.

[Keke Palmer]

I have another really hard one. I have another really hard.

[Marlon Wayans]

Stop doing this.

[Keke Palmer]

This'll be the last one.

[Marlon Wayans]

Why you be starting fights? I didn't come on here for this. You got nice lotion legs. Go on. Make sure you lotion yourself. Cause I'm used to a half dry foot, but yours is all the way through. Like between takes, you got somebody oiling your foot.

[Keke Palmer]

Oh, Marlon, you were so funny. Okay, Iconic black TV moms. Yeah, exactly. Oh, because here it comes. Aunt Viv.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yep.

[Keke Palmer]

Florida Evans. Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn. Harriet Winslow. Lisa Landry.

[Marlon Wayans]

From what? From what? From what?

[Keke Palmer]

Sister. Sister.

[Marlon Wayans]

Okay, sister. Sister.

[Keke Palmer]

Chaya.

[Marlon Wayans]

Who else?

[Keke Palmer]

So Harriet Winslow.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah. That's the mother on the Winslow show.

[Keke Palmer]

That's the mother on the Winslow show. That's the mother on Family Matters.

[Marlon Wayans]

Okay. Now if this was Urkel's mother, I'd have a harder time.

[Keke Palmer]

It ain't Urkel's mama. You know what was so crazy is Urkel came on that show. That was Harriet's show.

[Marlon Wayans]

I know, but that's Urkel came on.

[Keke Palmer]

There talking about something. Did. I knew that.

[Marlon Wayans]

But that's.

[Keke Palmer]

And it was.

[Marlon Wayans]

Now we call it Urkel because when you come to do something, there's no such thing as small parts. There's only such thing as small acts.

[Keke Palmer]

He actually was not even. I think he was like, maybe a recurring role.

[Marlon Wayans]

He was like the guest, funny as hell.

[Keke Palmer]

And came on and literally by the eighth season, he was going to space. What the hell? He went from Stephan.

[Marlon Wayans]

No.

[Keke Palmer]

Urkel, to Stepon.

[Marlon Wayans]

When he got Stephan and tried to be cute, I was like, man, if you don't get this grown man out these. When his voice changed, like, I do that. Come on.

[Keke Palmer]

Yeah, he was. Yeah, I was like. It went from, did I do that? To Nah, I do that. It's like.

[Marlon Wayans]

And who was the next one?

[Keke Palmer]

Aunt Viv. You know, Aunt Viv. Either one. Light Skin or Brother.

[Marlon Wayans]

I can't get rid of them because he already got rid of her. So I'm not gonna do that to Aunt Viv. She ain't gonna get a bullet from Will Smith and one for Marlon. I ain't gonna do that. Then I'll be in the reunion episode, and we gonna cry together.

[Keke Palmer]

You know, I found out that the Aunt Viv that replaced the original Aunt Viv is married to Tim Reed, the father on Sister Sister.

[Marlon Wayans]

And I love Tim Reid, so I can't.

[Keke Palmer]

And he's the pioneer, and I can't hire freaking hair.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yes.

[Keke Palmer]

Okay. Anyway, back to you.

[Marlon Wayans]

Who's my other option?

[Keke Palmer]

Florida Evans.

[Marlon Wayans]

No, that's. You can never. Crazy. That's right. That's Black Mom Goddess. Right?

[Keke Palmer]

You know what I mean. Harriet Winslow. I know. Who you gonna pick, or Lisa Landry. Harriet Winslow. Family Matters. Lisa Landry. Ow.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, man. You gonna have me beat up at the next NAACP award.

[Keke Palmer]

Jordan Allen.

[Marlon Wayans]

I'm gonna say you're.

[Keke Palmer]

Honestly.

[Marlon Wayans]

I'm gonna say light skin.

[Keke Palmer]

Au Viv Gotta go.

[Marlon Wayans]

She gotta go.

[Keke Palmer]

You went back and did a reverse on the reverse.

[Marlon Wayans]

Okay. Lisa Landry. Cause I ain't watching a lot of Sister. Sister.

[Keke Palmer]

Apparently you did Jackie Harry.

[Marlon Wayans]

Oh, no. You can't get rid of Jack A. Harris.

[Keke Palmer]

That's what I done said.

[Marlon Wayans]

You can't get rid of Jack A. Hat.

[Keke Palmer]

Exactly right.

[Marlon Wayans]

Them hips on 227. You know how many times my young self masturbated? Oh, throw it out.

[Keke Palmer]

Now. Why did you get Jack K. Involved?

[Marlon Wayans]

Wow, that's back when you could actually touch yourself to sitcoms. You can't do that no more. Government don't allow for that. Oh, I'm wrong. I did it to cartoons. Smurfette got it. She should be pregnant right now with a little black baby.

[Keke Palmer]

One thing I have to tell you that blew my mind is your level of honesty. When you sat up there on Ellen saying that you told Tiffany Haddish, you know, she had to get it together, whatever like that. I just had to pause for a minute because I love her that.

[Marlon Wayans]

But you know, a lot of people.

[Keke Palmer]

Don'T know how to tell people no.

[Marlon Wayans]

But she told me. She asked me why she never did, and I was just like, because at the time, you wasn't ready. Now she ready. It's different. I was actually. When I was saying what she was then and I was giving her flowers for who she was now, and I don't know if part of her was like, yeah, now you gotta give my flowers. But I meant that because I be seeing y' all when y' all young. And to see you develop into the artist, you gotta understand, big bro is always proud. I have nothing but love for every last single one of my brothers and sisters. You can always ask me for anything. I will give you advice. I'm always here.

[Keke Palmer]

But some people ask and people don't tell em. They'll never know, you know, or some people don't. You know what I mean? So I thought it was cool that whether we're. However it was received, I know you said it with love and I said.

[Marlon Wayans]

It too, that you have blossomed into this thing and now you ready, because she is. And I love Tiff. And I think, you know, we haven't seen the best of her yet. I think she has so much more to give, and I'm proud of her. Keep getting your checks, mama.

[Keke Palmer]

Period. I love you. You're amazing. Thank you for giving me so much respect.

[Marlon Wayans]

Now you're gonna get me beat up by the whole black community. Goddamn. Who do we pick on? The light skin anvil.

[Keke Palmer]

You said light skin anvil because you found out that Lisa Landry is jackass.

[Marlon Wayans]

I'm gonna go with the Winslow mother.

[Keke Palmer]

She lost her show and now she's gotta go.

[Marlon Wayans]

I'm sorry. Well, she just. She's lost a lot, you know, but you know what?

[Keke Palmer]

She's sugar mama on proud family.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah. You know, she gotta go. I'm sorry. You asking me these hard questions. All right, one gotta go. I'm gonna ask you one.

[Keke Palmer]

Okay? Okay. I'm excited.

[Marlon Wayans]

Kenan, Damon, Kim, Sean, Marlon, one of them gotta go. Oh, oh. We'll be back when you See, the Marlon Wayans podcast. I'm gonna let you chew on that.

[Keke Palmer]

For a couple of years, because that's really.

[Marlon Wayans]

I'm. Now you know how I feel when you ask me all these damn questions.

[Keke Palmer]

Because how could you say one's gotta go?

[Marlon Wayans]

You know what I'm saying? Cause I be telling you right now, I be dead as hell. In my eyes. I'm like, marlon, gotta go.

[Keke Palmer]

Marlon's not going anywhere. Marlon, you're my favorite.

[Marlon Wayans]

Yeah, but I'm not my favorite. I gotta go.

[Keke Palmer]

All right, y'. All.

[Marlon Wayans]

Did I just commit suicide on you?

[Keke Palmer]

That was so much more than jokes, y'. All. Marlon knows comedy isn't just about making people laugh, but it's about surviving, healing, and telling the truth, even when it's uncomfortable. And we can all try to find the light in the hard times. Laughter has certainly gotten me through so much in my life, and I know I'm not alone in that. And Marlon's movies and honesty. I mean, honestly, his whole family have been making me laugh since I was a kid. From In Living Color to White Chicks to haunted house, the Waynes have been a constant source of joy for me. Me. So having Marlon here today wasn't just special. It was personal. Y' all love you, and you know it's your girl. Baby, this is. This is Kiki, baby. This is Kiki Palma. Yeah.

[Lawless Planet Narrator]

How hard is it to kill a planet? Maybe all it takes is a little drilling, some mining, and a whole lot of cars pumped into the atmosphere. When you see what's left, it starts to look like a crime scene.

[Keke Palmer]

Are we really safe? Is our water safe? You destroyed our tap.

[Lawless Planet Narrator]

And crimes like that, they don't just happen.

[Keke Palmer]

We call things accidents. There is no accident. This was 100% preventable.

[Lawless Planet Narrator]

They're the result of choices by people. Ruthless oil tycoons, corrupt politicians, even organized crime. These are the stories we need to be telling about our changing planet. Stories of scams, murders, and coverups that are about us and the things we're doing to either protect the Earth or destroy it. Follow Lawless Planet on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes of Lawless Planet early and ad free right now by joining Wondry plus in the Wondry app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.

[Nick Cannon]

It's your man, Nick Cannon, and I'm here to bring you my new podcast, Nick Cannon at Night. I've heard y' all been needing some advice in the love department, so who better to help than yours truly? Nah, I'm serious. Every week I'm bringing out some of my celebrity friends and the best experts in the business to answer your most intimate relationship questions. Having problems with your man? We got you catching feelings for your sneaky link. Let's make sure it's the real deal for first Ready to bring toys into the bedroom? Let's talk about it. Consider this a non judgment zone to ask your questions when it comes to sex and modern dating in relationships, friendships, situationships, and everything in between. It's gonna be sexy, freaky, messy.

[Marlon Wayans]

And you know what?

[Nick Cannon]

You'll just have to watch the show. So don't be shy, join the conversation and head over to YouTube to watch Nick Cannon at night or subscribe on the Wondery app or or wherever you get your podcast. Want to watch episodes early and ad free? Join Wondery right now.