Alexe & Andrew: The Stage-Chella Tea and Their Relationship Today | Happy Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour Podcast Summary

Episode Title: Alexe & Andrew: The Stage-Chella Tea and Their Relationship Today
Date: June 3, 2026
Hosts: Charity Lawson & Rachel Recchia
Guests: Alex Godun & Andrew Z. Spencer

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Episode Overview

This episode of Bachelor Happy Hour features couple Alex Godun and Andrew Z. Spencer, fresh from their whirlwind adventures at Stagecoach and Coachella. The hosts, Charity and Rachel, invite them to spill all the tea about the behind-the-scenes Bachelor Nation meetups, live festival shenanigans, and give fans a candid look into their relationship dynamics—from travel mishaps to couple routines and their views on love and drama in Bachelor Nation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Stagecoach & Coachella Recap: The Ultimate Bachelor Nation Hangouts

• The conversation kicked off with hilarious stories from Stagecoach, where seemingly “everyone from Bachelor Nation” was present.
• Memorable moment: Andrew’s infamous split kick that “nearly took Charity out,” as well as general porch chaos.
  Quote: “You ever see with cats, they don’t want to be in the water? They like, spread their legs super wide… then like, it barely grazed you.” — Andrew (04:38)
• The “T-Mobile House” antics: Joey, Kelsey, Rachel Kirkconnell, Cat Izzo, Serene, Susie, Grocery Store Joe, and more were all hanging out, leading to sleepovers and nerding out (especially about Avatar: The Last Airbender).
• Quote: “It’s like your whole For You page in one house.” — Andrew (08:44)
• After-parties and the sense of “vibes” being much better than the festival itself.

Festival Ticket Fiasco

• Andrew & Alex recounted the chaos with their Coachella tickets being revoked last-minute and how posting publicly about their struggle led to free replacements.
• Quote: “You can’t just take back—there’s no take backsies.” — Andrew (12:11)
• Quote: “I’m never spicy online…but I was so upset. Especially like, we were lucky because we have a platform…but I’m always like, what about those people who don’t?” — Alex (12:44)

Get Real Event & Spicy Tea

• Andrew shares loving the Get Real event, the chance to connect with reality TV alumni, and witnessing “drama firsthand.”
• Talk of the “Jesse and Marciano” situation and rumors swirling about Bachelor Nation drama and alliances.
• Quote: “She’s got a roster.” — Alex (17:51)
• Commentary on how women “break up way before the actual thing happens,” in the context of a newly single TV personality (16:55).

Bachelor in Paradise: Hopes, Critiques, and Dream Cast

• Excitement about Paradise returning and questions about the format for Season 11.
• Both guests liked the new format with relationship-building challenges but critiqued the lack of more organic relationship development, saying “audiences still love a love story.”
• Desire for more cast variety and suggestions for who they’d like to see: Latia, Rachel Kirkconnell, Greg, Grant ("he's comedy on all fronts"), and possibly crossover with “Vanderpump Villa” folks for extra drama.
• Quote: “Put him on the beach, let him work. He might find something. And if he doesn’t, that’s on him.” — Andrew (26:29)

Living with Your Bachelor Nation Partner

• Comparison between original and new Bachelor in Paradise accommodations, and the realness of “sleeping together” every night as a form of relationship building (“That goes a long way!” — Andrew, 29:40).
• “Strategizing” room assignments so couples could have alone time, and laughing about the less-glamorous side of paradise: snakes, bats, and crabs interrupting sleep.
• Quote: “Let me see how y’all brush your teeth in the morning. That’s real life, though.” — Alex (32:15)

Travel Antics & Relationship Insights

• The pair reveal that travel is when "the ugly comes out" and has tested, but also strengthened, their relationship.
• Both confess to being forgetful and lacking in the “type A” department, leading to lost phones, missed flights, and mishaps—always handled with humor and patience.
• Quote: “I feel like that’s when the ugly comes out, when you travel for some reason.” — Alex (39:32)
• Hilarious misadventures include losing a phone at LAX, taking a cab to Greg’s place in NYC with no phone, and getting separated in the London Tube.

"Petty or Valid" Relationship Game

• The group played a lightning round game debating scenarios from liking an ex’s photo to eating leftovers.
  • Liking an ex’s photo: Not an issue; both are secure and remain friendly with exes.
    • “Like, we...I saw his ex at Coachella, and I’m the one waving her down!” — Alex (43:56)
  • Watching IG stories but not texting back: Alex admits guilt; Andrew’s unbothered.
  • Posting thirst traps but not couples pics: Andrew encourages Alex to show confidence; “That's my girlfriend, yes!” — Andrew (46:00)
  • Eating leftovers: Major no. Leftovers are sacred.
    • “I have scarcity mindset...my plate is MY plate.” — Alex (46:21)
  • Keeping a ‘roster’ of just friends: Both agree it’s weird/dishonest.
    • “No, I need something fresh...I can’t go out like, ‘I’ve been waiting to take this out of the refrigerator.’” — Andrew (47:54)

Reflections on Their Relationship Dynamic

• Alex and Andrew describe themselves as a secure, stubborn, and at times bickering couple, but with little jealousy—preferring open communication, humor, and mutual respect.
• “Everyone has their thing...take yourself out of other people’s relationships.” — Charity (48:41)
• Closing: Andrew jokes his main social presence is on Alex’s IG, emphasizing their close partnership and mutual promotion.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Twin Flame Energy: “You are just like...my twin flame.” — Alex to Charity (04:05)
• Bachelor Nation = One Big Slate at Stagecoach: “It’s like your whole For You page in one house.” — Andrew (08:44)
• Couple’s Confidence: “We’re not a jealous couple at all.” – Alex (43:54)
• Relationship Realness: “That’s real life though. If we’re gonna get engaged, we need to see all those things.” — Alex (32:15)
• Travel Anecdote: “I spent Halloween with no phone the whole weekend.” — Alex (41:50)
• Philosophy: “It’s not wasted when it’s shared.” — Andrew quoting Olivia Dean (44:38)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Stagecoach and Coachella Recap: 03:43 – 10:58
• Ticket Fiasco & Festival Survival: 11:06 – 14:16
• Get Real Event Tea: 15:08 – 18:06
• Bachelor in Paradise Format & Casting: 23:14 – 27:01
• Living Together vs. Original Paradise: 28:02 – 32:20
• Travel Mishaps and Couple Dynamic: 38:27 – 43:02
• Petty or Valid Relationship Game: 43:40 – 48:04

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Summary Takeaway

This episode offers fans a lively behind-the-scenes look at the intersection of festival fun and reality-TV relationships, as well as an honest glimpse into how Alex and Andrew navigate the realities of life together. Whether they’re defending their leftover lasagna or strategizing their way through festival chaos, their easy humor, mutual support, and laid-back approach to jealousy make them a refreshing Bachelor Nation success story.

Relationship wisdom, Bachelor Nation gossip, and hilarious mishaps—what more could you want from your Happy Hour?

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[Charity]

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[Charity]

And I'm Charity. And today we have two. Two very special guests from Bachelor Nation. Some of my personal favorites. And they are straight off the grounds from Stagecoach. Everybody, welcome. Alex and Andrew. I looked at the opposite.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I was like, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Alex Godun]

Thank you for having us, guys. I'm excited.

[Charity]

No, so excited. I'm like, truly, literally the only two people I want in these seats.

[Alex Godun]

Literally. I was telling Andrea today. I was like, charity is my twin flame. Like, you are just like.

[Rachel]

I see the connection.

[Alex Godun]

It's the Bob. But also, like, this weekend, I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

We just searching for. We gotta find Charity. Okay?

[Rachel]

And we have to talk about it.

[Alex Godun]

We have to talk about it. And if Rachel would have been there, I would have been looking for you too.

[Rachel]

You know, the one thing I wish I would have seen was this split kick in the air hitting Charity in the back of the head because I heard she was King Cuss.

[Alex Godun]

So you. You tell me. You go away.

[Charity]

No, it actually was insane.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I don't even know why my legs are high.

[Charity]

I don't either. And they were perfectly.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

You ever see with cats, they don't want to be in the water. They, like, spread their legs super wide and Then like it barely grazed you.

[Charity]

No, it did. I had a very delayed. But it was like, I was like. I was like, what was that? Okay, so we were all at their house after the desert storm and just having, you know, vibes. Vibes are high. We were all just living, having the time of our lives. We're all on the front porch and just, you know, kicking it, doing whatever and Andrew, I don't even. Were you sitting on something? What were you sitting on? You were doing.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I'm telling you guys, I don't.

[Rachel]

It looks like you were levitating.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

It was a good.

[Alex Godun]

Or like a decoration of some sort.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, it was maybe like a big vase or something like that.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I was sitting on that and then I like just kick my legs up.

[Charity]

Just having fun.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I don't know. I was excited about something. We were playing this game. It was really fun.

[Charity]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And I think I might have gotten like a really excited.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah, I got a little good rhyme. And you were like.

[Charity]

And I was sitting on the floor and then all I hear, like, not even hear. I feel something like grays.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And you know, Justin's gonna gas.

[Charity]

Correct.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

He's like, oh, my God, how could you do.

[Charity]

And so. No, like a child. It literally was like a child, like, ow. I don't even know if it hurt. But I was like, ow. I don't even know if it hurt.

[Rachel]

Andrew, you hit me.

[Charity]

And he goes. He gets up and comes and like comforts me.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Did you see the three part pictures? There's like a time lapse of pictures

[Rachel]

and I had such fomo.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, no. You would have had fun. That was more fun than the festival.

[Rachel]

I know. I want to hear about everyone we saw. Where did you guys stay?

[Alex Godun]

Yes.

[Rachel]

There were a lot of bachelor people there.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

A lot.

[Alex Godun]

We saw mostly everybody that I've ever met.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. So we had a deal with T Mobile and we're like. I mean, I looked at it, the list, and before I can even send a text, Joey's like, we're in the same house. Oh, shoot, we're in the house. So then we knew going in that we were going to see Joey and Kelsey. I didn't know Rachel was going to be there. And that was the first time we met Rachel. Rachel Kirkconnell. First time we ever met her. And it was so fun. We had like the first two nights sleepovers basically because her room was next door to ours.

[Alex Godun]

And then she was just Avatar. Like last Airbender.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, we nerded out. She's a. She's A, she's a dorky girl.

[Charity]

No, I love it.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Like, like that's in the best way.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, that was so much fun in the house.

[Rachel]

Was it just you guys?

[Charity]

Well, that was bachelor, right?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

That's bachelor.

[Alex Godun]

Other people. And then for some reason after the sandstorm, Charity came over. Cat Izzo. Who else? There was someone else.

[Charity]

There was so many people.

[Rachel]

I feel like Taylor, Frankie, Paul's guys.

[Alex Godun]

The nicest guy. You feel like you've known him forever.

[Charity]

Yes. So easy.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Justin was there.

[Rachel]

Justin straight off the plane from.

[Alex Godun]

I genuinely, when I like country this much. What's going on?

[Rachel]

Was this taken like a while ago? Because you were just posting from like

[Alex Godun]

literally from the Delta and then all

[Rachel]

of a sudden he like jumped out of the plane, landed straight at Stagecoach.

[Alex Godun]

Probably had a little detail like a.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, he went home and just drove. He's already in la. So that's kind of an easy.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Kind of make up.

[Alex Godun]

But I saw Jonathan too. Yeah, that was nice.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, you know, Bachelor nation stage coaches just goes hand in.

[Charity]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And like it should just be like an official event. I don't know why there's no bachelor nation house.

[Charity]

Come on now.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Because.

[Charity]

Hello. I literally thought about that this weekend. I said, well, you know, if y' all really want some good, put us in a house together.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Go get one of them campaigns.

[Charity]

Hello. It's really simple.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Y' all got it literally.

[Rachel]

Speaking of, was there anything of note that happened? Any drama, any funny story?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Honestly, the best vibes I've had in a long time. I think everyone was like clicking on all cylinders. It was, it was really nice for me especially.

[Alex Godun]

I feel like I'm always like, it's probably confidence issue, but I'm always nervous to go into these houses with, you know, you see them online and you're like, oh my gosh. So I was nervous, I will say. And I felt like meeting them. I was like, oh my gosh, she's so great. We vibed. Really vibed. Well, yeah, Yeah. I made friends that I knew we would be friends, but I didn't expect. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, it was, it was, it was everyone vibes. It's like your whole for you page in one house.

[Rachel]

I'm like, I want to know everything.

[Charity]

No, I wish you were there, like,

[Alex Godun]

and you like learn things from people. Like Charity, I'm sitting on the couch and she's like, I don't think you know me that well. And I was like, I don't think I Do. And we had the best time ever.

[Charity]

Convinced. I was like, are we charity?

[Rachel]

Alex and Charity, One on one date at Sage. Coach.

[Alex Godun]

It was really. No. Basically, we were in the bathroom last night.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

That was how it was, though. I was like that with, like, Joey. Joey. Like, Joey and I were, like, attached to the hip. And then Justin as well, hopped in there.

[Rachel]

Serene.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, my gosh. Forgot to say saw. Serene and serene.

[Charity]

Oh, my God.

[Alex Godun]

And Susie. No, literally everyone. Serene. Also.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Joe, grocery store. You can't be at grocery store. Joe.

[Rachel]

Gosh, did he come to hang out at the T Mobile house?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, he didn't come to the T Mobile house, but we saw them all after.

[Charity]

It was good. Bob's are truly immaculate. I love it.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Well, Kelsey came in with two b. Two boxes of Fireball. These little shooters.

[Rachel]

Oh, wow. Okay, so next year, Fireball House sponsored.

[Charity]

Sponsored by Bachelor Nation.

[Rachel]

I'm feeling it.

[Charity]

I'm looking at all y'. All.

[Rachel]

A great combo.

[Alex Godun]

I feel like Coachella was a little hectic and I didn't get to see everybody.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. Except for that Sunday, though. This is where we. We bonded. We all bonded.

[Charity]

It was actually like, I. It was like divine intervention. I'm not kidding. We were. I had already knew I was going to try to find exactly them, but I was like, shit. We're like. We were like, a little late to the set because we went on the wrong side. We were with Tanner and his girlfriend Haley, and I was like, no, I need to find Alex. Like, I.

[Alex Godun]

Like, I'm here for.

[Charity]

Hello. For Alex. Really? And Subtronics.

[Alex Godun]

But wow.

[Charity]

We literally are walking back from the wrong side. We're, like, trying to run over to find Brian, and, like, Andrew comes out of, like, I don't know how, but he, like, finally. He's like, hey. And we're like, oh, my God. Like, it was literally the most epic moment we all walk over with, like, with Brian, it was just. It was.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

The two first days were a little hectic, so, you know, we were just kind of like, everyone was trying to get into Bieber. And then, like, the next day was

[Alex Godun]

just, you know, a lot of whatever happens, happens. And we just got.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And then Sunday we're like, we're just gonna chill.

[Charity]

Best day.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

We're just going to do it on Sunday. And then the best time. The best time.

[Rachel]

I need you to tell the story of what happened on your journey to get to Coachella, because I saw your story. What was happening.

[Charity]

Oh, my God. I completely forgot about that.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah. Try to buy it from the festival itself because if you buy from a third party seller, what happens? Especially I think it was a Bieber event. So everyone was like, the prices were just.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

They were skyrocketing.

[Alex Godun]

Skyrocketing, exactly. So two days before the event, mind you, we have a non refundable house. Andrew calls me in a panic. I'm like getting my makeup done by Susie's friend. And you're like, our tickets got revoked.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. So I had, I bought tickets because I was just like, I need to see Bieber. Like, this is something that we both wanted to do.

[Charity]

Hello.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And we were like, we were like, last minute, we were just like, do we do it? Do we go to Coachella? And then we. I'm like, do it, let's do it. So we ended up doing it like two weeks, two weeks out, we bought tickets. And like two days before we're like departing, they're like, hey, sorry, your tickets have been canceled. We'll give you full refund and like a credit. Like, well, no, because we have our houses and everything. And then like I'm, I call them up, I'm like, what's going on? And they're like, hey, so your tickets have been rescinded. I was like, that doesn't make any sense. You can't just take back. There's no take backsies.

[Charity]

That's not in the policy.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

That's not how it works. So I'm, I'm like getting, I'm like getting hot. And they're like, you can buy them back for about 13k. Said, okay, go, fuck off, buy them back for 13. And then I have to go find another. Like, I outsourced to another place. I'm like, I got to buy something quick because we already have like a non refundable house. So I get StubHub, buy the first ticket that I see, way cheaper than them.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

So then I get.

[Alex Godun]

He calls me, tells me all the whole story.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I'm going to make a video.

[Alex Godun]

And I'm like, no, I'm never spicy online.

[Rachel]

You did?

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Alex Godun]

I'm so upset. I was like, I can't let them, like, what happened? Especially like, we were very lucky. Again, I was telling you earlier, I have a platform and I can talk about it. And we were very lucky that I guess they felt bad because people were like shitting on them online and they gave us free tickets. But I'm always like, okay, what about those people that don't have a platform? That's. Yeah, I'm gonna make a freaking video. Yeah. So it can reach a lot of People, good girl.

[Rachel]

Did anyone reach out?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

So I DM them, I've worked with them before and I was just like, hey, hey, hey, this, this. And they DM me back to like, hey, oh, we would like to give them to you for free, blah, blah. And we're like, oh, okay. And I'm like, why? And she's like, we saw Alex's video. I was like, hahaha, okay, thank you.

[Charity]

And you know what? And that's when it pays off.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

There was a link above her video and there was just multiple people. They did this to me. This did this to me.

[Alex Godun]

And you know what? I will give it. It's not just that for Coachella or just like, yeah, other. Other tours, other concerts, but it's not just them. I will say it's any third party sellers. Yeah, there's a huge risk.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Godun]

And the. The buyer is not really protected.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. So yeah, that was hectic. We got the free tickets. Yeah, I sold the other ones.

[Rachel]

Did they upgrade you guys? I feel like that would have been a situation. They could have hit the upgrade, but. Glad you guys went.

[Alex Godun]

That was fun.

[Rachel]

Glad it all worked out. But that is crazy.

[Alex Godun]

So fun.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

We got. Yeah, Honestly, that's exactly the kind of. We work in chaos though.

[Alex Godun]

Just like, I'm just tired.

[Charity]

You guys manage it very well.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, I mean it always ends up worth it at the end of the day. So like, you know, just stay calm. I always tell her to don't panic.

[Alex Godun]

Well, he lost his camera this weekend at Stagecoach now. But you're panicking. Look.

[Rachel]

Oh, and you can't really get those right now.

[Alex Godun]

You can't. It's, it's.

[Rachel]

I would have panicked.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

It's probably at the compound. They're just. They haven't gotten back to me yet.

[Rachel]

That is a tough loss because there's like a camera, waiting lines. Yeah, it'll turn up.

[Charity]

That's all right.

[Rachel]

It will turn up.

[Charity]

Yeah, you might get a free camera. Anybody out there?

[Rachel]

Canon?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

You know? Canon, are you out there? It's your boy, darling.

[Charity]

Okay. You guys also were at Get Real. I don't think we really got to talk about the orders of the events and everything that happened. So, you know, I'm just curious, what were your thoughts about the event? And then also we got a lot of shows to kind of get into that's coming.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I love Get Real. Like, this is my second time. Obviously there's only two times, but I just love the opportunity to just be in the same room as some of the people you see on TV or online and just kind of get a feel for, like, the whole process of how they're doing things. Like, we did watch them film. Like, the Naders are filming, I think. And I think, like, maybe Mormon wives are filming, but, like, just being in that atmosphere, it's just always been really cool to me.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And obviously you get to. You get, like, the drama firsthand.

[Alex Godun]

I was talking to a blogger at Saint Trojan, and apparently there's so much tea that happened at Get Real, and I was like, please give it to me. So I don't know yet, but allegedly.

[Rachel]

What happened?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I saw the. The Mormon wives.

[Charity]

Okay. Yeah. I think it was like, what was it the. Jesse and Marciano.

[Rachel]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

And I messaged her and I said, good for you. I said, I'm happy for her.

[Charity]

It was very.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

But then I saw her was with. She was with the bachelor dude from.

[Alex Godun]

She is with the bachelor dude. And I tried to look if it was AI, but it's real.

[Charity]

Honestly, trying to get that. The only right response.

[Alex Godun]

I thought it was AI.

[Charity]

I wish it was AI.

[Rachel]

No, because we need to tell you. We sat down with him on Happy Hour, and one of the first things he told us was that that was. That was a thing.

[Charity]

I was.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, he had to goes, I am in the. In the space.

[Charity]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, wait.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Didn't he delete his post?

[Charity]

Apparently, so it's not there anymore. Oh, yeah. So I don't know why.

[Alex Godun]

He was there for the right reason.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I don't know why.

[Charity]

It's just all very strange.

[Rachel]

Well, we found out on Happy Hour. We were all about it, but then I saw her with Marciano, and I was like, I love them together.

[Charity]

It seems fun. I was like, you know, she's like, you know, they're. And he's already figuring things out.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

She just get divorced two weeks ago.

[Charity]

Listen, hey, you get it how you live.

[Rachel]

Let's have fun.

[Alex Godun]

Honestly, you know, women break up way before the actual thing happened. So she was checked out for a long time. I'm sure.

[Charity]

So come on with the.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

With the tea.

[Alex Godun]

Trust me.

[Charity]

But, yeah. So, I mean, I honestly, I'm like, I actually do. Like, I know Marciano is very polarizing, but I'm like, obviously, we met him on Vanderpump. So I'm like, I don't. I like the kid. Like, I'm like, I don't even know what to tell him. I'm like, I don't have any personal problems with him. But seeing that, like, in person, I was like, oh, I was like, oh

[Alex Godun]

well, like were they together? Is that what they were?

[Charity]

Oh, they were together. They were like very cuddly, very touchy. I wasn't.

[Alex Godun]

Okay, but where did the drama happen?

[Rachel]

That I don't know. I just saw them being very happy together and I loved it.

[Charity]

Yeah, I think that was like just like very public. Like after like they were already kind of teasing it a little bit. I think that was like them together.

[Alex Godun]

The bachelor guy posting that right after that.

[Charity]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

So they probably. Or Jesse is her name. Yeah, she probably was like, take it down, take it down.

[Rachel]

No, honestly, I think she's like pretty open about like. Yeah, she's just having a roster.

[Alex Godun]

She's got a roster.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

She's got her.

[Alex Godun]

And that's the thing. Listen, I think she said I don't

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

want to talk about or any.

[Charity]

Don't.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Don't be hyping up no roster around here.

[Alex Godun]

You know, they didn't have fun cuz they got married very young and now she's getting divorced. She should have.

[Charity]

Alice is for the girls. Did you not know that?

[Alex Godun]

No, of course.

[Charity]

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[Rachel]

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[Charity]

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[Rachel]

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[Charity]

I also love the PM moisturizing lotion to help my skin recover and be restored at night. If you're looking to be hydrated all day, check out CeraVe.

[Rachel]

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[Charity]

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[Rachel]

Find yours.

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

I just received my order from Dietz and Watson. I am so excited. I got chicken sausages and flavored cheddar cheeses. You know, I'm from New England and I know a genuine New York State Cheddar. When I see it, they are infused with real ingredients, iconic flavors and a smooth, creamy finish. I think my favorite one was the Champagne cheddar. It just is delicious. And the chicken sausage. They never have antibiotics, no nitrates are added, they're gluten free and they have bold, authentic recipes. Dietz and Watson has been handcrafting premium meats and artisan cheeses for over 85 years. They're family owned and operated and they've never cut corners. Ever. They're transparent about what goes into their food and what doesn't and they know good taste doesn't need a long list of ingredients. Dietz and Watson is simply made. It's as simple as that. Visit dietzandwatson.com therightway to learn more about the Dietz difference.

[Rachel]

You know, history is full of surprising little details, and laundry, turns out, has its own fascinating story too. Because not all detergents are created equal. Tide Liquid Laundry Detergent isn't just clean, it's boosted clean for cleaner, whiter, brighter and fresher results compared to Tide Simply and those stubborn stains that always seem to show up at the worst times. Tide tackles 100% of common stains for every load every time. Now, if grease is your nemesis, think food spills, cooking splatters. Tide's got 10 times grease fighting ingredients compared to the bargain brands. And it works in any machine, in any water condition, on all your machine washable fabrics. So it's no wonder that Tide was America's number one detergent in sales last year. So if it's got to be clean and it's got to be fresh, it's got got to be tied. Shop now at your local retailer. Tide is a proud sponsor of the Elton John Impact Awards, honoring those who have helped shape a more inclusive and compassionate world with their artistry, advocacy and unwavering commitment to equality. You won't want to miss the Elton John Impact Awards podcast, available on June 1st on the iHeartRadio app and everywhere where podcasts are heard.

[Charity]

Summer is basically here, which means it's time to decide if you want to go blonde, maybe become a redhead or chop your hair short. But before you engage, encounter a hair disaster. Try it out in facetune first and see what it looks like before committing to the change. It's a lifesaver.

[Rachel]

I've tried out Facetune and it's so fun to see what I look like with different hairstyles and different lighting. I definitely recommend it. Before you make a big change, you can Even try out different makeup looks. Download Facetune free on the app store or Google Play. You know that pile of clothes that you've been meaning to deal with? Yeah, same. This is the easiest way to clean out your closet, send your clothes somewhere better and actually get rewarded for it. No more letting things sit around wondering what to do with them. You just fill up a take back bag with clothes that you don't wear anymore, send it in, and Trashy takes care of the rest. Keeping it out of landfills and giving clothes a second life. It's such a simple way to feel good about clearing space and doing something better for the planet. And here's the best part. You earn cash rewards back for every bag you send, which makes it even easier to stay consistent. You can check it out at Trashy I.O. plus with Trashy Unlimited, you can get unlimited bags for just $48 for your first year. An easy at home cleanout system so you can stay on top of things all year long. Clean it out, donate, earn rewards, and head to Trashy I.O. to get started today. We were talking about get real a little bit earlier.

[Charity]

Bachelor in paradise, which is coming back.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No way.

[Charity]

I'm like our paradise couple over here. How do we feel about it?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I feel. I mean, that's good news.

[Alex Godun]

I'm excited to see what the format's gonna look like for season 11. Are they gonna continue with what we had or are they gonna just change it back to the og?

[Charity]

I don't think I ever got yalls thoughts. Did y' all like how this.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I love the challenges. That's like perfect. You need those, like relationship building challenges.

[Charity]

I agree.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Because then we. We connected off of that and we had so much fun because we love to play like games and like all that stuff you had to get. You get to see them in their worst, like their agony, their pain, you know, whatever. Like they just their discomfort.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Alex Godun]

But what I will say though, I think because there was a lack of like character or relationship development, that's the only thing get to see as much

[Charity]

of like, just mix it better spawn.

[Alex Godun]

Out of nowhere, Alex and Andrew are like willing to get engaged and it's like. What?

[Charity]

No, actually.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, I know what you're saying. No, I agree.

[Alex Godun]

So that is kind of the. I would say the con that people.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, we still love a love story.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

In the day. Yes. I enjoy not sitting on that beach, you know, and just like, oh, so what color do you like? Or it's nothing to do. Also bring more people down. Like if there were More people on that season.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, it was.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Oh, that would have created.

[Charity]

And that's the thing. I'm like.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

But we also had the Goldens, which I adored them.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

They just need their own.

[Charity]

They need their own segment. Like, other side. Yeah, for sure. I like the intermingling, but it was very, for me, a little slim picking. Yeah. Just like, I'm like, oh, I don't really know if this was going to be ever, like really successful for them.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, no, no. They all knew coming in, unless they do more seasons, there's just enough.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah. Not enough seasons for that.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. Because a lot of them, they're like, oh, no, we're all just friends here. I'm just like, yeah.

[Charity]

I'm like, I think people are kind of getting past of like, okay, let's be play things by the. Also I feel like the golden want to play everything like kind of a little bit by the book, except Kathy and I love you, Kathy. I'm like, like, do not come. I love you, Kathy.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, they did it right, though. I mean, I feel like they were having fun. They were actually like just kind of doing stuff and like being active with it. Like trying to make a connection with someone, even if it's a younger person. Like Kathy, Kathy be flirting now. Hello. And April. April.

[Charity]

April, don't play April.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

April gonna go get it, honey.

[Charity]

You said she gonna find a way somehow. Somewhat.

[Alex Godun]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

Okay, well, paradise.

[Charity]

Let's talk.

[Rachel]

Who would you guys want to see in Paradise?

[Alex Godun]

We talked about that. Yeah, I would love to see. I mean my girl Latia. I think that would be fun.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. Lat needs to get on there.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah. Latia and I feel like bringing like Rachel. Kirk Connell would be like, people would be tuning in.

[Charity]

That would be good.

[Alex Godun]

Really hot. I mean there's. Everyone is but. And I think Greg would be fun. A good add on and it would cause like you know, some, some.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, I, I agree. I mean, I think Greg. Greg would be great. And I'm always gonna plug my friends. I think back on there.

[Charity]

Oh, he's so funny.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, hilarious.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And I also would say I would. I'd love to see Grant on the beach too.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

He's a little Love island boy.

[Charity]

I don't know why I'm getting crucified by that, but I do.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I'm like, that man is comedy

[Charity]

in all fronts. Like, I'm like, we don't know what

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

we're gonna get with him.

[Charity]

And I'm like, I agree.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

He's a good looking dude. I'm sorry. Let's not. Act like this man's not a good. Like a handsome dude.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Put him on the beach. Let him work. He might find something.

[Charity]

And if he don't work, then that's on him.

[Alex Godun]

That's okay.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

But you gave ample opportunity. Give him the opportunity.

[Charity]

I want to see. Who did I say I wanted to see? Oh, I want Victoria.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, yes. And Victoria Fuller. Yes.

[Rachel]

I don't know. She would do it.

[Charity]

I don't think she bit, but I don't know.

[Rachel]

She already did it.

[Charity]

Maybe also Miranda and Layla, I think, like, bringing a little bit.

[Alex Godun]

Yes.

[Charity]

That would be cool. They're already kind of like, you know, they're amongst us. I'm like, give us a little.

[Alex Godun]

That'd be so fun.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Oh, yeah, no, yeah, get them in there.

[Alex Godun]

I was looking at who was, like, hitting on them. At the rule.

[Charity]

Exactly. No good guy.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Not a good guy.

[Charity]

No, no, no saying.

[Alex Godun]

Right.

[Charity]

I'm like, I'm. I'm so protective over Miranda now. Literally hung out with her at Coachella once, and I'm like, no, she the best guy.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

She's my favorite one out of on the show.

[Charity]

Her head is on. Right?

[Alex Godun]

Oh, yes.

[Charity]

Sorry.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I said, hold on. You normal.

[Charity]

No, actually, though, I said, you got. You got some good.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, no, she's so sweet. She's like. And she's always on the phone with Latia or with Latia and her and

[Charity]

Latia, I'm like, they should come down as, like, besties.

[Rachel]

So.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah, that'd be iconic.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

That'd be great.

[Alex Godun]

Okay, well, we good men, though. That's the thing. We're not gonna put the girls there just to kind of have.

[Charity]

So I'm like, okay, so some of Taylor got Taylor's guys.

[Rachel]

Okay, what about some of the Vanderpumpzila guys? We can start mixing it into the.

[Alex Godun]

Becomes. Perfect Match isn't what it is, but it works, right?

[Charity]

It would be. It technically would be like the Hulu version of. Yeah, it's like the Hulu version of Perfect Match.

[Alex Godun]

Okay. Were we filming at the same location?

[Charity]

No.

[Alex Godun]

You guys were not the one in Costa Rica, were you?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, she was at the Escondida or something.

[Rachel]

Yeah, we were in Tulum.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, you were in Tulum.

[Charity]

Nice. You liked it.

[Alex Godun]

Fun.

[Rachel]

I did like it. Yeah. Besides, you know.

[Charity]

Yeah, I understood.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah, I saw.

[Charity]

No worries.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

It was just not at all over there, let me tell you.

[Rachel]

What was it like? You've been to paradise. The original, and now you guys have the ac. What was that like having, like, a police choice?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Oh, it was huge. Having a better. Like, it was just. It was easier for you to attack the day and look better.

[Charity]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Feel your best with good sleep. Like, you know how it is at the other one. There's no. There's no doors. So, like, I had a. I had a snake above my head. I'm not gonna. You know, I'm not gonna throw it on the bus. Hazardous. Like, they had to come in bringing, like, a snake guy to come out and take the snake. He slept, right? Yeah.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, but it was.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

It was cool. But at the same time.

[Rachel]

Hey, Andrew. Snakes at Escondida or bats in Costa

[Charity]

Rica,

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I would take. They were bats. They fly low. I would take the bats or.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, 100. That's, like, the one animal.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, the snake. Yeah, I was. That was crazy. And then the crabs also in the shower at the same time. So it was.

[Charity]

I would make phenomenal tea. You guys would see me.

[Alex Godun]

But when it comes to that stuff,

[Charity]

I'm like, I would be in a nut. Another realm.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And then also. Thing about the new version, though, is that we, like, slept together every night.

[Rachel]

So isn't that nice, though? I think.

[Charity]

Is that not relationship building?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

That's what I'm saying. It's like. That was.

[Charity]

I mean, like. You know what I mean?

[Alex Godun]

Hello?

[Rachel]

No, it really is. You talk at night.

[Alex Godun]

Your pillow talk.

[Charity]

Exactly.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And then just, like, touching someone, like, sleeping like that does a long. That goes a long way. You know what I mean? And obviously she wasn't who she was on the show, because now she's. How she sleep, I'm telling you.

[Alex Godun]

Oh. I was like, what?

[Charity]

No, it's okay. Dot would say the same thing, and that's fine. It is what it is.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Oh, man. My baby. My baby.

[Charity]

No, they're so cute.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I really can't.

[Charity]

But. No, I agree.

[Rachel]

I mean, if they want engagements, I feel like that's the perfect way to get it. Is having that alone time 100%. Cameras, or did they keep the cameras on at night for you guys?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, so there was a trick. You just pull your. Pull the blankets down if you want them to turn it away.

[Charity]

Hello.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

They told you I show cheek, you show skin cheek. I'm like.

[Charity]

I'm like, that's what. Okay. That's what it did in Vanderpump Villa. Because I was. I was also very scared. I was like, well, you know, titties back to me.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

The thing is, like, when you. When you have. What do you call it when you see the sheets moving? You could still kind of film that you know what I mean? But when you take the sheets off,

[Charity]

they're like, we can't.

[Rachel]

But wa. I was talking to Hannah G. And she said something like. She also thought that, like, during her season, but then they were, like, trying to air it.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

So are they black boxing?

[Rachel]

I don't know. I think it is a big deal when you, like, spend the night with someone, and I like that they're finally allowing Bachelor to do it because we were so far behind the other shows. We're all doing it, and I feel like, in paradise, it was a big deal if you went to and they made it a thing.

[Alex Godun]

Like, I wouldn't have wanted to go and, like, be called out. Not called out, but, like, single.

[Charity]

Like, oh, they're going to the room.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah.

[Alex Godun]

It makes it a negative thing. But we had to strategize because they did let us sleep together, but we had to strategize. So I was like, everyone was paired up in a way that, like, okay, if you sleep with your partner, then they're alone. Then my partner can sleep. And so it was kind of like a.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

So you can get the room to yourself. So you're not, like, in the room with your roommate. And then they got their girl. You got your girl.

[Charity]

Like, love. I had individual rooms.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Like, no, but the way we traded

[Charity]

off, like, so that everybody would end up in a partner. Okay.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Charity]

Genius. I know, because I would.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I thought they were gonna show some of that stuff, like, not, like, you're just, like, the planning of it. It was really funny.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

You see people walking the hallway with

[Charity]

their, like, pajamas and pillows, going to slumber party. A little weekender bag.

[Rachel]

Next season, they should, like, stay in the room with their partner.

[Charity]

I think so.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

We can get some more engagement.

[Charity]

That's like, love is it. Love is blind.

[Rachel]

All the shows.

[Alex Godun]

All the shows.

[Charity]

Let's. Let me see how y'. All. Y' all live together.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. No. Yeah.

[Charity]

You brush your teeth in the morning.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, no, see.

[Alex Godun]

Let me see how you brush your teeth in the morning. That's real life, though. If we're gonna get engaged, we need to see all those.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Okay. So the only thing is, is, like, you know, at that early in the stage, I was ready to go back when, you know, I had the food there is great.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

So I don't want to be in the same room as my partner when,

[Charity]

you know, I knew when he was

[Alex Godun]

going, because I was like, where's Andrew?

[Charity]

I'm like, I wouldn't ask him. I. I need to Couple's perspective. I'm like, I'm very curious because I. I feel like I. I'm the same way for the first two weeks. But then I'm like, all bets are off. Hello.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I'm like, y'. All. Y' all are.

[Charity]

Sit on my lap, buddy.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Charity]

But I just know a lot of girls are like, no, I can never. And I'm like, sorry.

[Alex Godun]

I'm like, sorry.

[Charity]

Duh.

[Alex Godun]

It's gonna be the rest of my life.

[Charity]

Hello. There's no way.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Turn the shower on. Like, oh, I'm gonna take a shower. Lock the door and then go back into the shower and be like, oh, it was a great shower. Hoping that it airs out.

[Charity]

I'm screaming.

[Rachel]

This is why you go to the bathrooms that are like, by the producer area.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, that's what I would. She was like, you were gone long time. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. I'm just talking, talking to people. I can't.

[Rachel]

I can't. Like, they needed me for interview. That was a long interview again.

[Alex Godun]

It's like the fifth time today.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Charity]

Okay, we have talked enough about paradise. Let's get into you guys. Did you know you can hydrate your skin up to 10 layers deep with CeraVe facial moisturizing lotion?

[Rachel]

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[Charity]

that lasts and when it's time to wind down in your day with PM facial moisturizing lotion that lasts through the night and has 48 hour hydration. Both contain three essential ceramides and MVE delivery technology to help strengthen the skin barrier in just one hour.

[Rachel]

I love CeraVe. My dermatologist recommended it to me years ago and it works incredible on my skin. I love that the AM facial moisturizing lotion has SPF in it, so I don't have to add an extra step to my routine.

[Charity]

I also love the PM moisturizing lotion to help my skin recover and be restored at night. If you're looking to be hydrated all day, check out CeraVe.

[Rachel]

It's developed with dermatologists and is fragrance free, paraben free and won't clog your pores.

[Charity]

CeraVe is the number one dermatologist recommended facial moisturizer brand and offers a range of facial moisturizers for all skin types.

[Rachel]

Find yours.

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

I just received my order from Dietz and Watson. I am so excited. I got chicken sausages and flavored cheddar cheeses. You know, I'm from New England and I know a genuine New York State cheddar when I see it. They are infused with real ingredients, iconic flavors and a smooth, creamy finish. I think my favorite one was the Champagne cheddar. It just is delicious. And the chicken sausage. They never have antibiotics, no nitrates are added, they're gluten free and they have bold, authentic recipes. Dietz and Watson has been handcrafting premium meats and artisan cheeses for over 85 years. They're family owned and operated and they've never cut corners. Ever. They're transparent about what goes into their food and what doesn't and they know good taste doesn't need a long list of ingredients. Dietz and Watson is simply made. It's as simple as that. Visit dietzandwatson.com therightway to learn more about the Dietz difference.

[Rachel]

You know, history is full of surprising little details, and laundry, turns out, has its own fascinating story too. Because not all detergents are created equal. Tide Liquid Laundry Detergent isn't just clean, it's boosted clean for cleaner, whiter, brighter and fresher results compared to Tide Simply and those stubborn stains that always seem to show up at the worst times. Tide tackles 100% of common stains for every load every time. Now, if grease is your nemesis, think food spills, cooking splatters. Tide's got 10 times grease fighting ingredients compared to the bargain brands. And it works in any machine, in any water condition, on all your machine washable fabrics. So it's no wonder that Tide was America's number one detergent in sales last year. So if it's got to be clean and it's got to be fresh, it's got to be Tide. Shop now at your local retailer. Tide is a proud sponsor of the Elton John Impact Awards, honoring those who have helped shape a more inclusive and compassionate world with their artistry, advocacy and unwavering commitment to equality. You won't want to miss the Elton John Impact Awards podcast, available on June 1st on the iHeartRadio app and everywhere where podcasts are heard.

[Charity]

Summer is basically here, which means it's time to decide if you want to go blonde, maybe become a redhead or chop your hair short. But before you encounter a hair disaster, try it out in facetune first and see what it looks like before committing to the change. It's a lifesaver.

[Rachel]

I've tried out Facetune and it's so fun to see what I look like with different hairstyles and different lighting. I definitely recommend it. Before you make a big change, you can Even try out different makeup looks. Download Facetune free on the App Store or Google Play. You know that pile of clothes that you've been meaning to deal with? Yeah, same. This is the easiest way to clean out your closet, send your clothes somewhere better and actually get rewarded for it. No more letting things sit around wondering what to do with them. You just fill up a take back bag with clothes that you don't wear anymore, send it in and Trashy takes care of the rest. Keeping it out of landfills and giving clothes a second life. It's such a simple way to feel good about clearing space and doing something better for the planet. And here's the best part. You earn cash rewards back for every bag you send. Which makes it even easier to stay consistent. You can check it out at Trashy IO Plus with Trashy Unlimited you can get unlimited bags for just $48 for your first year. An easy at home clean out system so you can stay on top of things all year long. Clean it out, donate or earn rewards and head to Trashy I.O. to get started today.

[Charity]

You guys obviously have both been traveling so much. Tell us about Yalls recent visits. Do y' all have anything coming up?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, we been on a roll as of like, I mean for me, my pockets. We went from Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, Valentine's Day, her birthday.

[Charity]

Oh wow.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Here in Coachella and Stagecoach, like it's, it's been a non stop like cycle.

[Alex Godun]

I did ask you though not to bring paradise back again. But I remember I asked you, I said, are you a spontaneous person on Paradise? The first question and you said yes. I love a good, like let's pick up our bags and go somewhere.

[Charity]

Yes, yes.

[Alex Godun]

Whether it's like Paris like we did for Valentine's Day or even just like a little weekend getaway.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah, yeah. So I enjoy that too because sometimes you never know how you feel in that moment until you like you're there. I'm just like, hey, let's go here.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Charity]

And usually they're always worth it.

[Alex Godun]

Like so fun.

[Charity]

Those are the best.

[Alex Godun]

Because I get so bored. I'm like, what's next? What do we have to do? Like I want to do like I'm always. I need something planned all the time.

[Charity]

Correct.

[Rachel]

Have you guys learned more about each other traveling?

[Alex Godun]

Oh, trust me. I feel like that's when the ugly comes out when you travel for some reason.

[Rachel]

It's so true.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I've learned it is a thing. I have another level of patience. It's like a. It's like A whole nother.

[Charity]

If Dalton was here right now, he should be, like, standing up, levitating, because, yes, brother.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

It's like, yeah, there's patience. And then, like, when it's, like, so low.

[Alex Godun]

That's the thing.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Well, there's a lot we have to like. Like, make sure we have. You know what I mean? It's just. It's tough. But, like, you know, I've. I've learned to be, like, just to have, like, the grace in those moments.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And, like, what you're saying to me, you're not. You don't mean them. You know what I mean? It's just, like, it's in the heat of the moment type of thing. So I've learned just, like, continue just going through the airport.

[Charity]

I'm curious out of the two, because I'm like, I feel like I asked you guys this weekend, but who's the more anxious one? Like. Or.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, my gosh.

[Charity]

So I'm like, that's. And so you saying patience. I'm like, that's dot. Because he's so, like, chill.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Like, I'm not chill chill. But, like, I've learned to be, like, more.

[Alex Godun]

So we talked about this. This weekend or Coachella weekend. It's because we're. And that's the thing. So I. I'm very type B. He's very type B. I'm type C. Right. And type I'm type W. I'm like,

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

an A B. I'm like, right on the cusp.

[Alex Godun]

No, no, no. You lost your character camera this weekend. You are not. He's typing. Anyways. That's okay. Just for the purpose of the story. He's type beat. And the thing is, because we're so similar when we travel, we. We. We lack the same thing. So we'll forget things, we'll lose things, and we're not on time for things. So then I get up because he's very chills, like, ah, it's okay, babe. Like, and I'm anxious. I'm like, no, it's not okay.

[Charity]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Godun]

That's when I freak out. And I'm like, right, Right. Versus you're more like, oh, and you said do it in the same way.

[Charity]

No, he's.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Well, the things that, like, I would leave behind are, like, very small compared to her. She's like, I don't have my power passport.

[Rachel]

I'm just like, I think she has the 1%, like, battery trying to, like, scan her boarding passion.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Maybe she left her. She left her phone at the airport

[Alex Godun]

one time going to New York.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

New York.

[Alex Godun]

So had to figure out on the phone, nice air. Like, if you're listening to this, the flight attendant. I love you. You saved my life. It was an overnight flight. Figure. So I went on my laptop online. Told you. Hey, I lost my phone at the airport in la. God, I don't. You called me in a cab when we. Okay, I got a cab to Greg's. Because you send the address, and I was like, memorizing it. Okay. Got in the cab, thought it was gonna be like 400. You know how they always tell you cabs in New York are 400 bucks? Anyways, we made it work. And then I spent Halloween with no phone. The whole weekend.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. And it turns out the whole time,

[Alex Godun]

it was at the. I went to the kiosk to talk to the person and she. He made a joke. He was like, oh, you're here. I was like, oh, no way. Set my phone down, make a joke, start talking. Kiki, leave. And then I get on the phone on the plane and I sit down.

[Charity]

I'm like, you don't have it.

[Alex Godun]

Where is it? So I'm like, I think it's outside. It was too late. They were like, no, we can't let you out. And then they were saying it was. Wasn't outside at the kiosk, but it was, so I found it.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yes.

[Rachel]

Wait, didn't something happen with the phone and a train? Like, you were on a train, you were, like, waiting.

[Charity]

That one was.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, he lost me in London and my phone was dead.

[Charity]

No, no, no, no, no. It's the one where his wallet got.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, well, then two stories. The one in London. He lost me in London. So he. We're on the train, he gets out fast. Cuz he's like, such in a rush. And I'm like, no, I think it's the other. As he says, that door closes, my phone is dead.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, the funny part is, what am I gonna do? Reach back to grab her arm? And that door came in so fast.

[Alex Godun]

And all I see is like.

[Charity]

I'm like, no, this is. Y' all are cinema. Like, y' all have a cinematic thing.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I'm like, oh, shoot. Should I wait for her?

[Alex Godun]

Yeah. Now it's like, do what? Is he gonna wait for me or come get me if I go? And then he goes, see?

[Charity]

And that's where you got to know your partner. You know what I mean? That's like. That's a real test. I'm like, okay, she left me.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I went after her and she. She went all the Way home, you

[Charity]

know, my ass is standing still.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

That's what I thought. I thought the same exact thing I said. I said, alex is not gonna move. I know for a fact that I could just come like, she don't even turn off the lights. I gotta go get up out of bed if I'm already in bed versus,

[Alex Godun]

like, just turn off the. You know what he does, though? He plays rock, paper, scissors. You know, any guy would be like, you know what, my queen? I'll do that for you. No, no. He goes, rock, paper, scissors. And I think he, like, he's kidding. No, no. If I lose, I have to get up.

[Charity]

Okay, we're gonna transition to a game where we're gonna give you guys scenarios, and you have to tell us whether getting upset over it is petty or valid, which I think I'm like.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Charity]

I'm like, I'm gonna try and play Guess what, you guys.

[Alex Godun]

Yes.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

I'm excited to see you guys. Answers.

[Alex Godun]

Okay.

[Rachel]

Okay. Your partner likes their ex's photo.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I'm not too upset about it.

[Alex Godun]

Zero upset. We're very on the same.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. We're not a jealous couple at all.

[Alex Godun]

Like, we. I saw his ex at Coachella, and it's. I'm like. I'm the one who's, like, waving her down. I'm like, come on, say hi.

[Charity]

Okay. But you guys have, like, a. I'm assuming, good history. Like, if. If.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

With my ex.

[Charity]

Yeah. Because I feel like if.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Charity]

I'm just like, you guys ended on, like. I feel like if I'm not waving.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Oh, I should never have a bad breakup. It makes me feel weird.

[Charity]

That's good, because I'm saying I'm not waving to you if I don't like you.

[Alex Godun]

Sorry Is because we both agree, and it's. I know. It's very controversial.

[Charity]

No, it's healthy.

[Alex Godun]

It's healthy in a sense that, like, you've had a, you know, history with this person.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

This was.

[Alex Godun]

This person was a big chunk of your life.

[Charity]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Alex Godun]

You know, it doesn't mean you have to talk to them every day on the phone. But you had history, and I can respect that. It's like, nothing can be changed.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Olivia Dean said it. You know, it's not wasted when it's shared, so.

[Alex Godun]

And I'm so comfortable in a relationship. And I know you would. You know what I mean? If you.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah.

[Alex Godun]

Like.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

And obviously, we're in the public eye. If I did that, I would be.

[Charity]

Yeah. Stupid.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Are you kidding me?

[Alex Godun]

Yeah. So that's the reason why liking A picture. It's like, oh, hey, we're still friends.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah, but I know it's not everyone's cup of tea and people.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Alex Godun]

But that's us. It works.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah.

[Charity]

I'm like, if we. If great history, but if I. Oh. If not in a bed, I'm like, I'm so sorry. You will never see for me.

[Alex Godun]

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I agree.

[Charity]

Okay. Your partner watches your story but doesn't text you back. Well, I do that.

[Alex Godun]

Oh, yeah. I'm gonna say, I'm like, so sorry. Sorry. I'm like, I didn't see it.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I wouldn't do that. But she does what she wants to.

[Alex Godun]

What do you mean?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Like, you. You be on when you in your. Your zone.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I just let you do your thing. Yeah.

[Rachel]

As you should.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I'm also not like, like, over harped over texting.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

We, like, we FaceTime and we just breathe.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

We don't even speak. So.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

It's just like knowing we're. We're like, connected there.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of how we are.

[Charity]

Yeah. Okay.

[Rachel]

They post a thirst trap, but never post you.

[Charity]

Mercy and grace.

[Alex Godun]

He tells me. He goes, no, there's too many. Couple pictures. Post. Post your ass. No, literally, he's like, he will be the one. Like, show your bum.

[Rachel]

I love it.

[Alex Godun]

I love it.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

It makes me feel better. Like, damn, that's your girlfriend.

[Charity]

Hello. Hello. That's a picture that they got talking about.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

That's my girlfriend. Yes.

[Rachel]

This next.

[Charity]

Which one? Oh, okay.

[Alex Godun]

I'm excited for this one.

[Charity]

I feel like. I feel like I know what they're.

[Alex Godun]

Okay, you guys tell us first what you think.

[Charity]

They eat your leftovers without asking. Y' all don't play about that.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Oh, no, we don't.

[Charity]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Rachel]

They're like ass pictures.

[Alex Godun]

Yes.

[Rachel]

Leftovers.

[Charity]

No, no.

[Alex Godun]

You do that so often where, like, I'll have. Because I'm. I have scarcity mindset. Okay. I have. Oh, no, no. So scarcity mindset that my plate is my plate. If you want food, go get yours. Like, pay for it or get it from the fridge. Like, that's mine. No, no, no. And takes big bites too.

[Charity]

He's like, I'm gonna eat.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I do that just to piss you off a little bit. I'm just like, wait.

[Charity]

Okay. No, I'm spot on because I figure I just.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

She just likes the last bite. And that's what I'm just like. You know, when you're eating something, it looks. You know, it looks good. So she Was like, let me get that last bite. I'm like, literally the best part.

[Alex Godun]

And I'm so mean. I'll be like, I'll eat the whole thing, and I will share it, but it will be like the rest of, like, the pita that has nothing in it. I'll be like, do you want. Do you want the last bite?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah.

[Charity]

This last one's insane. And if you guys say. I'm gonna question you guys. This is crazy. They keep a roster of just friends. You side eye the. Sorry. You see me curious and, like, people.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

We side eye friends, too.

[Alex Godun]

What does that mean?

[Charity]

I don't. They keep a roster of just.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Charity]

Those people that are like, we're not anything more. It's just. We're just friends. But, like, it's a.

[Rachel]

As a woman, you'd be like, sorry.

[Charity]

I don't know how I feel about. Like, it's from my interpretation, it says they keep a roster of just. Just friends. So I'm assuming, like, maybe people that. To them, like, it could have been something, but it's like, no, we're just friends. But it's like, they're in.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Like, as a woman, if we broke up, they would be next in line.

[Charity]

It's like, I don't play that.

[Alex Godun]

No, we don't.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I feel like that's even stale as, like, a.

[Charity]

That's just weird.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

As a romantic.

[Charity]

That's weird.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I feel like I need something fresh, something that just happens. Like. Yeah, I don't need. I can't go out. Like, oh, I've been waiting to take this out the refrigerator. No, I need to. I need to go.

[Alex Godun]

She.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

No, I need to go get something new.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Charity]

Special off the lot. Hello.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah.

[Charity]

Yeah, I don't play that. Okay, well, you know what? This was great.

[Alex Godun]

That was fun, guys.

[Charity]

Even more. And I'm like, I feel like I know you guys, but I'm like, this is. This is good relationship.

[Rachel]

You guys are the best we've talked to this couple. Makes so much sense to me.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Please come on again.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

I know. Also, some people think, like, oh, wow. They're. They're always mad at me. I just like. Like when we explain our car. Oh.

[Alex Godun]

The dynamics.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Like, honestly, it's really.

[Alex Godun]

But it works the way.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Oh, I love it.

[Alex Godun]

Because we do. We will argue, we bicker. We're just very stubborn people. But at the same time, we don't. Like, you can look at a relationship. They don't. Bigger, but they're super jealous, and we're not.

[Charity]

So everyone has their thing. Everyone does. And like, that's what people have to realize is like take yourself out of other people's relationships.

[Alex Godun]

Exactly.

[Charity]

Because we're not in it. Whatever works for you guys probably ain't working over here.

[Alex Godun]

Exactly.

[Charity]

It is what it is.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Exactly.

[Alex Godun]

And it's over. Stupid stuff like, oh, you forgot your passport again.

[Charity]

Right. Okay, where can people follow you guys on social?

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

You can find me in Alex Godun's posts. A little tag there. That's cute. That'll be me. Andrew Z. Spencer.

[Charity]

He's like, go to my girl's page first.

[Andrew Z. Spencer]

Or TikTok. Same thing.

[Charity]

Perfect. Amazing.

[Alex Godun]

Yeah.

[Charity]

Okay, Rachel.

[Rachel]

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[Charity]

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