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Serena
And I'm Serena.
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Joe
And we are here today with Alex and Alex, welcome back to the podcast.
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Alex
Hello. How are you guys?
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Joe
We are good. How are you?
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Alex
I am good, thank you.
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Joe
Okay, so I'm not going to ask you. Were you shocked to go on? I think you were kind of a no brainer. Somebody that was going to be asked to go on Paradise. You go on Paradise. Were you excited? What were you hoping for?
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Serena
You just asked a question to Alex and then answered it for her.
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Alex
I love this. Thank you.
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Serena
You said were you surprised? No.
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Alex
You weren't?
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Serena
Let's keep it.
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Alex
You weren't excited at all? Actually, no, I was really excited. Honestly, I think that was definitely more in my wheelhouse than the Bachelor. I think I kind of love, even though it didn't come off that I'm a flirt, I love to flirt. Maybe it's a little awkward, but I love it. So having all these different dynamics and relationships to kind of out definitely was really fun. And I was very excited going into it.
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Joe
Yeah. And I think it looks like you could flirt. I mean, I think, you know, being contestants that have been on the show, I understand when like, you know, like, because I was always kind of portrayed as more of the awkward one. So they really, like, highlight that. And then.
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Alex
Right. I was like, yeah, you kind of like question your character. You're like, I'm looking at my friends. I'm like, am I that awkward? And they're like, no, not at all. Um, but we can talk about it later. I think a lot of it too is I when it comes to feelings and emotions, that's when I get a little uncomfortable. And I think because that's the premise of the show, more of my quirks came out for sure.
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Joe
Yeah. And it's like there are. But there. There are more sides view than just being awkward. Like, there are more sides to me besides being awkward. Yeah.
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Alex
Here we go. Are we like an awkward trio? Is Serena awkward too?
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Joe
No, Serena's like, you guys are both fucking awkward. So is this conversation right now.
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Serena
You guys are both a little awkward, but I love it. I love a little quirkiness. I also think people forget watching that your first language is French.
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Alex
That's another thing too that people forget. And I was telling everybody on the show and they knew is sometimes it would take me time to process certain things or like jokes. And Andrew would always on the show, like, I kind of a risk taker. I would like Say jokes and sometimes it wouldn't land. So then I, so, so I. And for me to not be embarrassed, I would, like, make it a little awkward so it's funny, you know. So I think that came into play also a lot.
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Joe
Okay, so you, you get down to paradise and it's you and Jonathan. And you know, as a viewer watching, definitely seems like it's. There's something missing.
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Alex
Yeah.
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Serena
I will be honest. In the first episode, you're in that love triangle and I actually thought you were going to send Jonathan home.
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Alex
I. Okay, so that's interesting. I definitely had more chemistry, I think, with Ricky for sure, but there were certain signs that happen and you have such a short time that you have to make a quick decision. So you have to look at every little thing and be nitty, nitty gritty. Look at the nitty gritty of things. And I think what really made my decision sway to Jonathan is I saw more potential than Jonathan and then kind of like the, the little feud with or the little tiff with Hakeem and certain things that were said that I didn't really al with who I was. I wanted to kind of play it differently this time around and not go with what I'm feeling now, but also what is going to be good for longevity and long term.
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Serena
Okay, that makes sense.
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Joe
Yeah. Yeah. But then, you know, you pair up with Jonathan, but there's really nothing there. And then Andrew comes down, you guys have a great conversation, and Andrew does what he always does and screws it up, and he asks Bailey on a date. I'm joking. Andrew.
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Alex
No, but that's, I. Anyways, that's for another conversation.
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Joe
He, he ends up, he ends up asking Bailey on a date. Were you surprised by that?
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Alex
So this is funny because I. Walking up to the conversation with Andrew, I told my producer, I said this because, you know, every time a guy would come down, they would ask two girls to chat and then they would pick them, pick whoever they wanted for the date. And they. This was going to be the fourth time where someone would pull me for a chat, so. And then they would go for the other girls. So I said as a joke, I said, okay, if I don't get this date, I'm sending myself home. This is like, I'm obviously doing something wrong. I'm too awkward. I said, I don't have to tap into my, like, sensual side because this is clearly not working. So I'm joking. And so definitely my reaction when Bailey comes in the room and tells me that he. She gets picked by Andrew. It wasn't necessarily that was Andrew that I was so upset or had a pin in my stomach for sure. But it was more like the overall, I felt embarrassed. I was like, oh my gosh, like something wrong with me that they choose to talk to me and then the second I open my mouth, they go to the other girl. So. But I wasn't shocked because Bailey is so funny. She's so lighthearted. Great that I was. You know, even in that moment when she was crying that she felt like she was betraying Jeremy for going on that date, I told her, oh my gosh, go for it. You're on paradise. What else? This is. It's so early on. Like, he just went on a date with Susie. Do it. Like, go, you have nothing to lose. Like, see if there's a connection there. Try it out.
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Joe
And then. So we see. I agree with that.
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Serena
And then that's gotta suck though. Like, I really feel for you because it's like getting punched in the same wound over and over that by the time Andrew does it, you've must be.
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Alex
Like, you know, I have Serena.
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Serena
No, you're good. I was gonna say I really feel for you because it's like getting punched in the same wound over and over. And as much as you have a good thing going with Jonathan, I think it's kind of obvious to the viewers, to you, even to Jonathan maybe, that the romantic connection is not there. Clearly are putting yourself out there. You want to find something romantic and you're like, gosh, I'm like so close every time. And I will say I, you know, Bailey is so lovely, but like, we know Andrew personally. And I was like, Andrew, like, Alex is like such a fit for you. So I was also surprised. You know, nothing against Bailey, just know.
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Alex
Of course, knowing Andrew and yeah, I don't know if that was going to be the next question, but so the next day when they came back from the date, things were a little bit put out of order. But I'm the first person you want to talk to. And that's, you know, the conversation was awkward, but it was also very choppy because we're trying to talk in codes because we had pre existing reasons why we didn't want to go for each other at first. And we kind of talked it out in codes in that conversation. And I was like, well, I thought that you. And he goes, no, I thought that you. I heard that this. I was like, oh, my gosh, no. And that's the second after that conversation, we're like two peas In a pod. It, like, made sense. So we had our reservations coming into it, even though you could clearly tell I was into him regardless. But we had our reservations because of, again, external factors. And then when we clear that up again, it was just like two peas in a pod.
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Serena
Do you want to break down those external factors a little bit?
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Alex
I think there were things that were said in terms of. On both ends of the type of people we would usually date this. And we both thought. He thought, well, she's not going to be into me. And I thought, well, I don't think he's gonna be into me. So that's why we. Like, I said, kind of. And maybe he. That's the decision. He. That's why he chose. I don't know. That's for him to say. But once we had that conversation and we were like, no, that's not true. We were like, okay, well, you're my person, obviously. Because it's funny, right before that conversation where the night that he chose Bailey, we had before the conversation we had the first ever. He goes, I feel like we hadn't even talked. I feel like there's something. You know, Andrew, I feel like there's something between us. And I'm like, actually, I kind of feel it, too. So.
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Joe
Yeah, well, I think. I. Honestly, I think it was the best. I think it was good for him to actually take Bailey instead of you, because then when we do see you guys have a conversation after that date, it seems like he also, like, kind of went in there a little more chill. He had his guard down. I think he kind of went in there like, well, now I'm just shooting my shot, and. And you're going to see the real me, because now, like, I'm really going to, like, go for it. And I think it worked. And I think we actually saw, like, I was like, oh, these two. They have.
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Alex
Yeah.
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Serena
He seemed. By the time he had that conversation with you, it seemed like he was like, okay, I kind of know what I want now, and I'm just going to go.
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Alex
He told me on the show, too, after this is what or not after show. But on the show, what he told me, his reasoning was too, right. Because I also didn't want to feel like a second option ever. And not that there's anything wrong with that. That's just. I didn't want to feel like if there's a better. Because I was gonna leave. He had to talk me off the ledge that day. And I was like, no, I. I'm. I'm leaving. He's like, no, please stay. I'm like, save again. Maybe I'll.
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Serena
You didn't want to feel like, you know, Bailey went back to Jeremy and then he was like, okay, well, let me go try things without.
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Alex
Exactly. Exactly. So that's kind of after, like I said, I'm glad we had that conversation because it made just so much more sense. And then we were able to really. Yeah. Get to know each other more.
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Joe
Okay, so then before Jesse comes down and turns the show into what is now a competition show, where are you and Andrew at as far as your relationship? Are you locked in? Are you. Are you boyfriend, girlfriend?
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Alex
Definitely locked in. It's cute. During the compatibility. Oh, no, that was actually with when the money came in. But Sean comes in before the money aspect, and he did tell me I was the only one at that point that hadn't gone on a date or left the beach. So he did express some interest in me. And he said, I would love to bring you on a date. And as much as I wanted to get off that beach and just, you know, especially that Andrew had just brought Bailey on a day I wanted, I said, I would love to go. I think we'll have a lot of fun. It's like four wheeling. That's definitely my cup of tea. But I'm going to be honest with you. I think if you choose me, regardless, my rose is going to go to Andrew. So we were both very locked in after that. Okay.
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Serena
How do you feel when Jesse comes and says the person you're with is your partner now, and this is a competition show?
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Alex
Thank goodness. Thank goodness. No, I was just so happy because it felt like we were already a team. And it was like knowing that we would move as a team felt very reassuring.
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Joe
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Joe
Okay, so now we have to, we have to touch on the Bailey Jeremy stuff because you, you unfortunately are getting, I would say you got a decent amount of heat just for, you know, it seems watching the show, it seems like you and Bailey are super tight and you guys are like best friends. So I think everyone's like, well Alex, why didn't you tell your friend if you knew this information? And yeah, just like what's your take on all of it?
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Alex
Of course my take is still, you know, I, looking back, hindsight's always 20 20. I've apologized before all of this aired because I knew I should have told her and I've continued to apologize. So there's no, no excuse for that. There's a little bit of context that me and Jeremy coming into paradise. I consider Jeremy my closest friend on the beach. We had talked about every day, we facetimed every day like three weeks coming up to paradise. He told me who he was interested in being both Bailey and Susie. And so I even joked the first day because I, you know, during my pre interviews they were asking me, who are you interested in? I said, well we might, you know, I might, me and Jeremy, we've had this little, we've been talking, maybe I'll try to pursue that. And the first day I said, I really value your friendship. Let's, I think let's just stay friends. And I would call him my best friend like every. Yeah. So then the Night of the. The rose ceremony, when he had to pick between Bailey and Susie, he did come to me and he said, you know, you know me out the best. Out of everyone here. Who should I pick? I didn't have a friendship with Bailey before Paradise. I know we were on the same season, but, you know, different groups of friends. Right. So I did say, you know, I would go with Bailey. I mean, I wasn't friends with her before, but I'm her roommate, and I'm seeing a lot of really good qualities that I think you guys would really mesh with. So that's kind of. And then next day when he had his little. He got upset that she. He went on a date with. With. With Andrew, and he came to me. I had just broken up with Jonathan. I was crying, and he tells me he called Susie. I don't want to say I wasn't shocked, I think, because I knew he was really conflicted the day before he told me that. And I felt it was like a. Well, I'm going to be vindictive. You know, you want to go on a date when I picked you and I really told you how much I liked you. Still not. I think it's really not a good. It's not good behavior, but I think it came from a place of, like, his ego was bruised. So the next day, you know, we wake up and then I tell him, you know, I think you should just tell Bailey regardless. I think just be straight up with her. I think that's the best thing you can do. And he did tell me that the. The phone call wasn't a big deal. And I said, that's funny because I said, you know, they're going to air that, right? And he goes, oh, no, they won't. It's. It's really not a big deal. And I talked to Bailey and we're good. So for me, I really trusted his word that if he's so confident they're not going to air it, it must not be anything. Right. So it doesn't still excuse the fact that I should have told regardless, Bailey the next day. I just trusted someone I thought was a friend and trusted his word. And looking back on it now, knowing the extent it's, I think it makes it even more heightened. Right, Right.
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Serena
And I think that it's, like, interesting context to be added that you had this close relationship with Jeremy, because I just really don't think that translates. Watching the show, it does seem like that you and Bailey are so close. We don't actually see a friendship between you and Jeremy, really?
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Alex
No, not at all. And it's. And we both said, me and Bailey, at the end of this, we said. Because we both agreed, we were like, I don't think we were really fan of each other before this. And we said, I'm so glad that we were able to see another side of each other and have this bond. So. But it's. Again, I don't want, I just want to preface. Again, it's not an excuse. Looking back, it's like stand up for. Stand up for the. You know, and I just. But the information I had at the time, I didn't think it was going to benefit their relationship. I didn't want to make it look like I was, what if the phone call wasn't a big deal and I was just trying to sabotage their relationship or I look like a tattletale? That's. I thought, you know what, he handled it. He said, it's not a big deal, they're good. And I could tell he really, really liked her. Knowing again that I knew him before the show and he said he was really interested in her. I. I just knew a little bit more, I guess, of his feelings towards her, if that makes sense.
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Joe
Yeah. Were you under the impression, because you mentioned it. Were you under the impression when he said, it's not a big deal. I already talked to Bailey. Did you think that he had told Bailey a little bit about it?
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Alex
No, because he did say. I said. He said I didn't tell her about the phone call. So that I will admit he didn't tell me. He's told her, but he said the phone call was really not a big deal.
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Serena
You say to Jeremy too at one point, like, hey, like, everyone knows, like, you should tell Bailey.
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Alex
Well, no, so that. I don't remember saying that because at that point when the whole Brian thing happened, I didn't know. I thought it was me and Andrew that knew. And that's because I thought, oh, he came to me and he told Andrew about it. So I felt a little like, oh, he trusts me. Like, he. Because he told. He asked me who to pick. He. He feels that we have this trust between us. And it's more at the end when someone's told us everybody knows and it's Brian who's going to tell her. That's when I was like, oh, my gosh, wait, everyone knows that. That is terrible. That that makes it like, yes, exactly. The joke's on you. Which is such an unfortunate position to be in. And it's. I never. No one would Want to be in that position. So I definitely felt. No, I felt for Bailey. Absolutely. You are.
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Joe
You are also. You're in a tough position. Because I would. I would feel like I was in a tough position if I was also friend. Like, if it's tough, you are truly friends with both of them. And on top of it, you are dealing with your own shit. Like people do. Forget that.
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Alex
Like crying. I was crying over Jonathan that night. Right. So I wasn't in a place to be exactly. Like, oh, let me focus on your relationship and try to see. Fix your relationship.
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Serena
Having lived it and then watching it back in a dream world. How would this situation have played out?
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Alex
I think I would have. Like I said, I did tell Jeremy. I think just be upfront. If it's not a big deal, tell him. I think what I would have done different is maybe ask more about the phone call and then also tell him if. Well, if you're not going to tell him. Her, I'm going to tell her. Right. Like, I. Looking back on it, you know, we should have each other's back. And that's something I regret for sure. I don't think I would have gone behind his back and told Bailey because, again, he's a friend, and I want to be a good friend to him, too. But I think going up to him and telling her. Him, if you. Yeah, if you don't tell her, I will.
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Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes.
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Serena
So Brian does tell Bailey. We see that conversation happen. How are you feeling that night? We see you go talk to Bailey. Kind of walk us through that evening.
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Alex
Right. So funny enough, that night I was gonna go tell Jeremy if. Exactly what I said, if you don't tell her, I will. And the man is sleeping. And all of a sudden Parisa tells me, that's the night I found out that everyone knew. And Parisa tells me, it's Brian. He's gonna tell about the phone call. So that's why you see me kind of like, oh, my gosh, it's Brian. Because I thought, like, it would be my position, if anything, to talk to Jeremy. I'm the closest one to him. So that's why it came a surprise. When I'm going around, like, it's Brian. He's going to tell her. Because I was going to tell Jeremy. And at that point, I think I'm going to speak for myself and a couple of people. All we knew was, again, what I just said, the phone call. And it's not a big deal. So I think. I think that's why it was a shock that it was coming from Brian because we all thought he knew. We didn't know the extent that he knew about the proposal and whatnot. So knowing just the information we had, I think that's why we were so surprised. Why would it come from Brian?
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Serena
Right, that makes sense because from the cast perspective, I guess it's just the phone call. Whereas Brian is the person that has additional information.
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Alex
We just know the information that's in front of us. And as we're watching, as with the viewers, we're learning so much more things that's going on in the it. In the interviews and things that's been said privately to other people. Right. But with. With what we have in front of us, that's what we thought. Yeah. And looking back, like. No, go ahead.
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Joe
Joe, has this situation affected your relationship with Jeremy? As of today.
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Alex
I, we, you know, throughout the season, I made sure to reach out to both to check up on them and when all of the heat kind of went to us, you know, even that night I checked up on him. I'm just going to say I was a little disappointed that I never received a text or anything or something that I think would have shown that, hey, you had my. Not my back, but, you know, you took the heat for something. Maybe I should have been the one to say, told her. And I never received any of that. So it's definitely. I'm trying to figure that out right now, you know, but. So it's tough, like looking back at the whole show, it's like, is that how he like things he said about Bailey? It's tough to say, like, is this someone that I would still want to have, you know, in my life?
- [26:55]
Joe
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Alex
You're ready.
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- [31:17]
Joe
Okay, so we see. So the game is moving. Moving past that subject now. The game's a competition. Are you and Andrew at all talking strategy and how to potentially win or do you guys even care? Because we don't really see, we don't see you guys talking strategy at all.
- [31:39]
Alex
So my whole motto, my whole mentor, I guess was I believe in karma. And of course everybody wants to have to win half a million dollars. That would be silly to say. Oh, you know, but my whole mantra was I want good karma. And for good karma to happen is let's, let's put the couples that I think are strong and are going to have longevity outside of this. Let's try to push them to the, to the final. Right? And I didn't want to talk about strategy because I felt like that's bad karma. Exactly. Kind of like what happened to Sean. I think he was so. Which it makes sense. He wanted to be strategic about it. But I felt like if I do that, it's going to bite me in the butt. Right. And also I kept saying, like what, we'll cross that bridge when we cross that bridge when we want to vote. Like, let's just focus. And I know it sounds very corny to say, but we just wanted to like laugh and get. We didn't want to talk about the game. Like he's such a funny guy that I was like, give me your best jokes. I don't care about whoever votes for who or who's the alliance is like, again, just, let's be nice to everybody. Hopefully people believe in us.
- [32:37]
Serena
But you're also like, I didn't sign up for a competition show. Like, I'm just here to date.
- [32:41]
Alex
Exactly, exactly. I mean, I love a good competition, super competitive. I love it. During the games I was like locked in. But besides that, when it was just one on one time with them, we just didn't care. We're like, I think we've, you know, we have a good reputation here and we've shown people before even the money came into play that we really cared for each other. So that's all we can really do.
- [33:01]
Joe
It's an interesting element because if you are in a relationship that's working and you see a future, that's clearly where your energy is gonna go. But then again, if you are a Sean or a Jonathan or somebody that's in a platonic relationship, it does make sense to be like, okay, well the interesting part of the rest of the show for me is to play the game. So then the strategy actually becomes like, it becomes a numbers thing where it's like, okay, well the tight relationships, it makes sense for them to vote the same way and stick together. And then the people that are the other end, it makes sense to try to pick you guys off.
- [33:36]
Alex
Absolutely, absolutely. I don't blame Jonathan for doing talking strategy at this point. That was the only thing left for him. I mean, for Sean, interesting, because he did say he was a strong couple, so maybe he should have just stayed with what most of us were thinking. Let's just, you know, cross that bridge. When we cross that bridge, he wasn't really in a platonic relationship, so I don't think he was really at risk of being voted out.
- [34:00]
Joe
We see in this, this episode we see like the therapists come down and you guys have a lot of cute moments. I, I, we said in the interview with Kathy, none of us really agreed with this, but the therapist said that you and Andrew don't have any sexual chemistry.
- [34:17]
Alex
Funny. So I'm curious to see what you guys are going to say because none of us and none of the other couples agreed. We were like, what? We're like, can't stop touching each other. We're always.
- [34:27]
Serena
I say, I think my argument would be like, I don't agree with her, but like, you're also like in the woods with like a bajillion bugs. So maybe just like that night she wasn't seeing it. Whereas, like, as someone that's seen you guys, like, by the pool and by the bar and eating together, I think, like, the romance really translates, right?
- [34:47]
Alex
And one thing that came out of that, of course, we didn't agree at first, but we both. It really struck a nerve. We're like, oh, wait, what are we not seeing that people are seeing, right? So we both reflected on. On our own about that, and I think something really great happened, came out of that, is that we kind of realized on both of our. On both of our ends that we were holding back a little bit. Like, as much as we really liked each other, we had our own, again, reservations. And that moment when she said, there's no chemistry. I talked to my producer and I was like, I really like him. And I don't know what I think. There's all these things that I'm holding back from. And I realized, no, this is. I want to be honest with my emotion, my feelings with him, and I'm going to tell him that I'm falling in love with him and Same thing. I think that reflection just helped us grow more together. For sure.
- [35:37]
Joe
Definitely.
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Serena
What did it mean for you guys to have that conversation about falling in love with each other? And we do see this kind of sweet moment where you realize you're going to say it first and you, you know, you shell up a little bit and Andrew takes your hand and he, you know, takes that jump first.
- [35:55]
Alex
Right. So, you know, throughout the show, you guys know that I come off very awkward, and especially when it's me talking about my feelings. And again, I don't want to go too much into detail and woe is me, but something I did share with Andrew is in that we both related. You know, we had not traditional family upbringing. And something that I told him is that I, you know, I didn't grow up, didn't see my dad for 18 years of my life, and my mom. We had a rocky relationship. And I, you know, I was sexually exploited by someone close to my family. The person that should have been there for me never supported me. So I think I had a. I have a very tainted relationship with, like, what love should look like. And I told him, I said, there's a difference between saying I love you and showing it, right? So growing up, even if I heard it, I didn't really feel it. And I told that to Andrew and I told him, I said, it's the first time that a partner. Because I'm a very open book. I tell everything. My, my. I tell everyone. My, my, my Story because it helps me cope. But not only did he listen, he actively made, like, actions to understand me. So when he took my hand and he said, I love you for I'm falling in love with you first, I knew that was him saying, I know why you are the way you are, and let me step it up for you and show you that I care, because I understand where you're coming from. So it was like, a moment where I was like, oh, wow. I feel very safe with this person. Yeah. So it was such a beautiful moment. It, like, really, like, my shoulders were just relieved. And then I do what I do best. I get up, and then I'm like. Because I'm awkward. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. We just shared all these moments. And then I look back and he's not following me. And I'm like, well, he's in love with me. You should follow me back. And he's like, I can't get up. And I have to out. I have to point it out, because I. That's me. I'm impulsive, and I have to. Which I think it's cute because that's our relationship. Like, it's so. I need. I always say I need to cut it with humor a little bit. I'll be vulnerable, but then I have to, like, snap it back with some humor. And he appreciates that. So I think that's why on the show, we make a good team.
- [38:01]
Serena
Yeah. And I think you're exactly right. Like, that moment encompassed you guys as individuals and as a couple so beautifully, where, like. Yeah, I think that's just amazing that he really took the time to, like, get to know you and what you need to feel safe and loved and in that moment, was able to show up for you in that way. And, like, exactly.
- [38:23]
Alex
There's so many other moments where I just felt so. Not that he's a therapist to me, but I would, you know, I had tough decisions to make, and then I would feel I would shut down. I was so nervous. And he said, do you think you don't like to let people down? Because XYZ and I would be like, oh, my gosh. Wow. Like, first of all, you listen to what I'm telling you. But also, you're, like, trying to make sense of who I am and why I do the things I do. And that's not something I've ever had.
- [38:46]
Joe
So definitely Andrew's like. Andrew's like, no sexual chemistry. Here's proof.
- [38:55]
Alex
Literally, he's like, I. Partners are wrong.
- [38:59]
Joe
Take a look at me, baby. Cameras.
- [39:02]
Alex
Cameras.
- [39:06]
Joe
Okay. So, yeah, I mean, like, you guys have been great to watch. This has been a fun season. You know, I. I consider you guys to be one of the strongest couples. We don't know what's gonna happen. Is there any. Any other thing you want to ask before we let Alex go?
- [39:23]
Serena
I was gonna say, you know, we've only got one episode left of the season. Well, yes, we have the finale. If you could tease a little bit of that.
- [39:33]
Alex
So definitely the last episode is gonna be surprising. I think I've ever been in a position that I experienced something like that. It was very, I'm just gonna say, gut wrenching to experience.
- [39:48]
Serena
Well, I mean, this is the first season that they've included cash prize, a competition element. So we are very excited to see how they close out this season and who inevitably wins the money, potentially. So, yeah.
- [40:06]
Alex
Alex.
- [40:06]
Joe
Alex, thank you. Thank you so much for coming on and it was a pleasure talking to you.
- [40:11]
Alex
Well, thanks for having me, you guys. I appreciate it. Thank you.
- [40:13]
Joe
Of course, and to all our listeners, thank you for tuning in to Bachelor happy hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.
- [40:20]
Serena
We have new and exclusive interviews every single week. Thanks for listening. Bye.
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