Bachelor Happy Hour: “Bailey & Jeremy on Life After Paradise; Taylor Frankie Paul Bachelorette News”
Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour
Hosts: Joe Amabile & Serena Pitt
Episode Date: September 16, 2025
Guests: Bailey & Jeremy
Key Topics: Taylor Frankie Paul’s Bachelorette Season, Bailey & Jeremy’s post-Paradise journey, reunion revelations, online scrutiny, future plans
Episode Overview
This episode dives into two major topics for Bachelor Nation:
- The announcement of Taylor Frankie Paul as the new Bachelorette—breaking from franchise tradition by casting a reality star outside the core Bachelor universe.
- A candid check-in with beloved “Bachelor in Paradise” couple, Bailey and Jeremy, covering their experience after the finale, handling public scrutiny, relationships with castmates, plans for the future, and advice for others navigating reality-TV relationships.
Main Discussion Highlights
1. Taylor Frankie Paul as the New Bachelorette (02:59–07:07)
- Breaking Tradition:
- Joe and Serena react positively to casting Taylor Frankie Paul, a reality TV figure from “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,” as the next Bachelorette.
- Joe: “Smartest move the franchise has made, maybe ever, in my opinion.” (03:14)
- Both hosts feel this will add more excitement, drama, and fresh energy, even if some fans are uncomfortable with the shift.
- Anticipation & Mixed Public Response:
- Serena notes, “The discourse online has been a lot of excitement… and then also criticism, which I think is in some ways a good thing. I think it gets people talking.” (04:11)
- They discuss how the move could bring in new audiences and shake up entrenched expectations, reflecting on how the show was originally built on casting recognizable, not necessarily franchise-only, leads.
2. Post-Paradise with Bailey & Jeremy
Adjusting to Life After the Show (08:06–13:43)
- Relief and Closure:
- Bailey shares, “I think we feel really good. We’re slightly happy that the show is done. I think just having a mental break will be really good.” (08:13)
- Both describe the reunion as cathartic, feeling they handled unresolved issues and regained friendships.
- Public Reception and Online Scrutiny:
- Jeremy admits the hate from the fanbase was tough, “It has been very rough, like, from a fan audience perspective…” (09:15)
- Bailey: “People have questions and they want answers and I hope that part of the reunion answers those for them so well.” (10:05)
- Joe offers perspective: “Jeremy made some mistakes in a relationship that was 11 days old… you better believe they’re saying some fucked up shit to their friends about that person.” (11:02)
- Both characterize their relationship as real and imperfect—"No relationship is perfect. Nobody’s perfect. So, like, I don’t know. I think everyone deserves grace. Real world in paradise, it doesn’t matter.” (12:30)
The Reunion Experience (12:52–15:50)
- Intentions Going In:
- Jeremy: “I wanted to take accountability… and also not try to be defensive. And it was a thin line I was trying to walk.” (13:07)
- Bailey: “We did get to leave the reunion feeling really peaceful and calm… everyone deserves a chance to talk.” (14:54)
- Unresolved and Behind-the-Scenes Moments:
- They wish more positive moments made it to air and note the limits of a reality edit: “There was not enough time to go through certain things.” (15:45)
Handling Friendships, Cast Dynamics, and the Aftermath (22:33–26:25)
- Resolving Tension:
- Jeremy: “We were good friends on the show… it was just like, miscommunication.” (23:00)
- Bailey explains that dealing with negativity can strain connections, but they managed to reconnect with their castmates and leave on good terms.
- Reunion After-party:
- Bailey: “It just felt like we honestly just got to be like silly again and laugh… this season has been a little bit very intensely emotional.” (25:02)
Moving Forward as a Couple: Plans and Challenges (26:01–31:19)
- Moving In Together:
- Jeremy confirms, “Yeah, definitely by the end of the year.” (26:16)
- Bailey jokes about her huge wardrobe, “He has like four things up there. And so I'm gonna put…all my shit up there.” (26:23)
- Trips and Living Arrangements:
- Bailey is heading to Abu Dhabi and China for work; she’ll move into Jeremy’s “giant loft” in New York after travel winds down.
- Meeting Friends and Families:
- Jeremy “flew out to Portugal” to meet Bailey’s family, while she met Jeremy’s friends and some of his relatives in Chicago and Atlanta.
- Both feel positive about the support: “We’re really lucky that everyone’s been, like, really supportive of this journey and really happy that it’s also, like, slightly over for us…” (31:19)
Clearing the Air: Cast Drama and Jury of Peers (31:41–44:17)
- Confronting Kathy and the Goldens:
- Jeremy clarifies playful banter and misunderstandings, “I wasn’t a fan [at first] of them coming to the beach… but I happen to, like, love Keith and Kathy. Kathy’s…like my aunt.” (32:58)
- Bailey and Serena share laughs over Kathy being famously grudge-holding: “Kathy, you 100% do hold [grudges].” (33:52)
- Jury of Peers / Finale Reveals:
- Bailey and Jeremy recollect being shocked by revelations about Cat and the group’s twists. “We were very shocked. I know Sean and Alicia…wanted everyone to know, like, the truth.” (40:06)
- Voting discrepancies: Bailey and Jeremy voted differently on who to advance in the “jury”—Jeremy chose not to advance couples who had voted him out: “Why would I not vote to send you home?” (42:14)
- On the hypothetical money vs. love dilemma:
- Jeremy: “I’ll take the money for us so we have money, and then we’ll just rekindle the next day.” (43:04)
- Bailey: “Obviously, you know, I was going to pick love, because that’s me. And he was going to pick money so that we could survive and do everything we wanted.” (44:16)
Realism About Engagements on Paradise (44:17–46:20)
- Both were clear they weren’t ready for engagement, despite pressure from the show’s traditional format.
- Jeremy: “I would never have done that if I wasn’t serious… I don’t think either of us would have been ready for a real engagement after a few weeks.” (44:29)
- Bailey: “We really wanted to acclimate into normal life… we made the right decision for us, and, yeah, we’re really happy.” (45:39)
Handling Past Relationships and Online Backlash (46:41–51:15)
- No Bad Blood with Susie:
- Bailey shares a supportive message received from Susie (Jeremy’s ex), stressing that there’s mutual respect and wishes for the drama to die down.
- “She sent me literally the sweetest message I’ve ever received… was very long, and I had to take some time to actually read it because I was overwhelmed in that moment.” (46:52)
- Advice for Future Couples:
- Jeremy: “Stay off Reddit... Don’t look in the comments and like just laugh at it, maybe laugh at it like after the drama.” (49:29)
- Bailey: “Restart your relationship when you come home… just living normal life together is really important.” (50:12)
- “Coming back from paradise… keep planning trips and making as many advanced plans as we can.” (50:58)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Taylor Frankie Paul as Bachelorette:
- “Smartest move the franchise has made, maybe ever, in my opinion.” – Joe (03:14)
- “She’s single, she’s dynamic, she’s gorgeous… That’s the only requirement to be on the show.” – Serena (04:56)
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On Dealing with Public Criticism:
- “I think everyone deserves grace. Real world in paradise, it doesn’t matter.” – Bailey (12:30)
- “Stay off Reddit... Don’t look in the comments and like just laugh at it.” – Jeremy (49:29)
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On Handling Cast Fallout:
- “We were good friends on the show… it was just like, miscommunication.” – Jeremy (23:00)
- “I’d love to see the relationships of some of the people commenting and sending us DMs.” – Jeremy (12:23)
- “No one sends hateful DMs to each other. Like, I’m like, oh, talk shit to your friends.” – Bailey (15:53)
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On the ‘Jury of Peers’:
- “I voted for no one to move forward… besides the fact that they both sent me home.” – Jeremy (41:53)
- “I also was just like, I know if Jess and Spencer do win, they’re gonna take us to Disney on an all expense paid vacation.” – Bailey (42:27)
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On the Pressure to Get Engaged:
- “I don’t think either of us would have been ready for a real engagement after a few weeks… neither of us wanna just get engaged for the hell.” – Jeremy (44:29)
- “Did I bring a dress? Of course. I’m prepared for everything. But I think as we got closer, we were just like, oh, wait, we can’t fathom doing this right now.” – Bailey (45:03)
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On Advice for New Couples:
- “Just be able to restart and live normal life together is really important… that’s what really helped us.” – Bailey (50:12)
- “We both previously been in long distance relationships and we both didn’t want that. So we were like, we need to put an effort there.” – Jeremy (50:58)
Key Timestamps
- 02:59–07:07: Taylor Frankie Paul Bachelorette segment
- 08:06–13:43: Bailey & Jeremy on life after Paradise, reunion, and public reactions
- 22:33–26:25: Friendship with castmates, reunion after-party, transitioning to real life
- 26:01–31:19: Moving in together, travel plans, friends & family updates
- 31:41–34:09: Banter with Kathy, Goldens, reality show relationships
- 39:33–44:17: Finale/jury of peers, loyalty, voting motivations, and the money vs. love debate
- 44:17–46:20: Discussing engagement and timeline realism
- 46:41–49:03: Susie, closure with past relationships, online drama
- 49:29–51:15: Advice for future couples, staying grounded
Conclusion
Bailey and Jeremy’s appearance was candid, humorous, and reflective. They left listeners with practical advice about balancing the fantasy of reality TV with real-life relationship challenges, championed openness in the Bachelor franchise, and gave fans an optimistic look at their future together. The episode set the stage for an exciting new era with Taylor Frankie Paul as Bachelorette, encouraging fans to embrace change and root for authenticity—on and off the screen.