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Rachel
So.
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So let's get into it.
Rachel
Going into the next one, you see my interactions in front of incredible wildlife and crazy once in a lifetime moments. But what you don't see is that I'm physically there but mentally somewhere else, documenting the moment ahead of actually experiencing it.
Blake Moynes
Perfect example. Like the last week that I was here, we worked two different instances with cheetah relocating to cheetah out of a boma. The other one was doing a TB check on it to make sure that we could move it out of the boma and it was, you know, getting a proper vet check done. And not once did I even have the moment to spend five seconds admiring that animal. It's. I think people think that I'm there. Like this is no, it's like I'm this You got this shot, this, this we got back here. And I'm like, I don't. I didn't look at the cheetah one time. I'm not there admiring it like I'm on some luxury tourism thing. If I don't deliver the things I need to deliver through brand things and this for the organization to get things out, then I do the disservice as the reason that I'm there and what my value is. So I never get to take that in. It's making sure I'm delivering for the org and delivering for the animal at the end of the day.
Rachel
Yeah. And it's funny because even in this post that you made, I saw so many pictures that I took of you, which is funny because I think even, like, it's funny because a lot of the pictures that you use that I gave you were ones of you, like kind of not being so happy or kind of staring off into space. And in those moments of like making sure that me and the group is having the best time, but you are just thinking about what's next and thinking about what, again, you have to deliver. And it was actually very jarring to me to see those posts and knowing that I took those in a moment where I was so happy and I was like having this once in a lifetime experience, but you on the other end, having so much on your mind. It was really hard for me to see because I know you.
Blake Moynes
I think it's just a lot to juggle. Right. Like, there's the whole thing happening. It's very dynamic. It's so hard to like, you're working with fucking wild animals and these scenarios that are just like impossible to anticipate things. You have team and, you know, you want to make sure everyone's also fine and good and you're good and this is good and the things are charged. This and this. There's just so much that, like, there's no sense of you. I told you I didn't shower. I haven't showered for two days until right before then because I literally haven't. I don't think about myself in any way.
Rachel
And it was a cold shower.
Blake Moynes
Yeah.
Rachel
I was like, oh. I literally was like, was it relaxing? He's like, it was cold.
Blake Moynes
Cold. Stepping in and out of it.
Rachel
Meanwhile, he made sure that my shower today was amazing and hot in the other building. So you think about everyone else before you. And it is hard for me to look at these posts and see that. And for me, I am one of. I would like to think you're good friends. To see you in this state, to know that it's been just such a hard year for you keeping Sosa alive.
Blake Moynes
There's. There's two pieces to this that make it extremely challenging and why it's not so simple to quit and why it just feels like you have to figure it out is because the decision that you're making to make a business decision is not about the money you're putting in your pocket, only because once you've done enough of it and you realize the good that you can do and what stories you're trying to tell, and the teams are bringing in the resources of all the things you've brought in, and I've told you about all the things we've brought in to Karn and her team over the next month, it's gonna be massive for her. The decision isn't just a business decision that you're making, because when you're doing it for something greater than you and you're doing it for rhinos and you're thinking about those things and the cheetah and this, you're not doing it to make a dollar. You're doing it to save them. We've been in the red for three years. There is no. My brother is working basically full time for me outside of being a pilot. I've taken zero for the last three years. I have two people that are on salary. The rest if we don't. Our model's built on sustaining nonprofit organizations. If we don't sustain nonprofits. So it's essentially like if we don't keep them going while at the same trying to sustain ourselves while trying to sell a product that isn't a product. You're selling it. You. Let's say wildlife. It's not something people need. It's not something that's in front of people's faces. It's not something that they can. They can compete with all the politics and the terrible economy and the issues that are happening in America. And we're trying to ask people to try and care about animals. And so it's not something that people need. We're trying to get people to care about something that are mostly ignorant or not educated about, and so trying to sustain that for ourselves and the nonprofits and the animals. There's not enough money in conservation to go around. No one cares. No one really needs it. And there's too many mouse to feed, whether it be the animals, the orgs, and ourselves.
Rachel
Well, obviously, we're gonna go. Okay, last one. I want to go into is relationships. So let's before that talk about what it's like for you when you have Greg and Justin and me on these trips, having your friends here showing up who care for you. What is that like having like. Because it's so funny and I think I. And we always talk about this story about when I first met you, I hated you because you were so annoying to me because I drank out of a plastic straw and you were like, you know, the sea turtles. And I was like, I didn't even put that. It came to me in this drink and I was so annoyed at you. Which is so funny that that led to me going on the first sea turtle trip. The sea turtle trip. But also like this friendship that we have built where you have had me completely buy into what you are doing. And you have people like Greg. I mean there's so many bachelor people that are able to come on these trips and help you. But what is that like having me and so many people that believe in you and what you're doing?
Blake Moynes
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I've been fortunate. I think there's some like core people. You know, the first time I ever did it, did something was Zach and Noah came up to a shark thing. And that was the first time. I didn't know that was right after Noah.
Rachel
Noah really I didn't know that him
Blake Moynes
and Zach both came out.
Rachel
Well, I know you and Zach. Yeah.
Blake Moynes
And Zach and I are actually. I know, I don't know. People don't know this, but Zach and I are running our first program this, this year in Alaska where we're blending our mental health, his mental health programs with ours. Conservation is healing people. People are healing. Conservation. We're doing our first co jointed program together which is huge. So he's always believed he's been out with me a lot. I think it as long as you're willing to pull the trigger, which didn't take you actually very much, didn't take much energy to get you out with
Rachel
the sea turtles is Florida and I'm a Floridian, so I think that's where it kind of all stemmed where it was so easy because we also went to my parents house on that trip and you got to meet my dad. And we like really bonded on that trip by you meeting my family and me doing that. But like me being here and like me like, you know, I believe in everything you do. That has to mean a lot to you because you're sacrificing so much.
Blake Moynes
Yeah, I mean, I Think there's certain people that can. One, opportunity can be cool, but two, I think there's trust that goes into these types of things. Now, this one is bigger than the others. There's a lot more riding on this one, particularly for the rhinos. That. But a lot of investment going. And I think the thing that we have here, if it's delivered properly, could just.
Rachel
Yeah, we don't have to go into that one. Yeah.
Blake Moynes
But I think twofold. One, someone who understands the shit that I'm kind of going through is helpful to an understanding of what we're trying to do here from the production element of things. Right. And there's someone who gets. But anyways, talk about relationships, but storytelling, all that stuff.
Rachel
Let's talk about. Okay, so what is it like having people like Greg and Justin who jump onto these trips that believe in the Sosa talk about just that?
Blake Moynes
Well, to be honest with you, I don't think they knew a goddamn thing before they got there. They didn't. I mean, you. I can say, hey, come to watch. Yeah. You're gonna bring me it.
Rachel
Sure.
Blake Moynes
Right. They don't. They didn't know until they got there. Then when they got there, were.
Rachel
They believe.
Blake Moynes
And. And like, good for you. Like the. That you're doing here and, you know, donating money and doing all these things. Like, they did extra things they didn't have to do because they saw the impact of the program and then it resonates and it's like, you know, and Justin's. Like, when we go on the next one. Greg's. When are we going to.
Rachel
They said that?
Blake Moynes
Yeah. I mean, that's just. You know what I mean?
Rachel
Yeah.
Blake Moynes
The thing is, you just got to pull the trigger. I think there's a natural bridge or maybe there's a comfortability thing there, you know, and when you see it, then it's easy to get behind. And so, yeah, I mean, those. If I could have people out like. Like you and backing me on a continuous basis, massive. It's just hard to always make it feasible to do. Do and pull those things off. And I think there's very particular people that will be able to do a project like this. I don't. I don't know who else could help support this type of project where there's a trust element there. That could.
Rachel
Because I'm perfect, obviously. Tell listeners.
Blake Moynes
Yeah, perfect for sure.
Rachel
Tell the listeners. I'm perfect.
Blake Moynes
She's perfect.
Rachel
Oh, my. Okay.
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Rachel
Let's go into the next thing because I would really love for people to know that when we see each other, we immediately get into all of our relationship tea. And I caught him up because the
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Rachel
was going into perfect match into everything. With Clayton, you were there for like how nervous I was about everything. So when we saw each other it was catching up from there until the present. And I think a big thing that I do see online about you and that you touched on a little bit in your post is relationships. Because I'll be so honest and I want to like give the listeners like their point of view. You went on the Bachelor and you got engaged and now you're sitting here being like, I don't have time. Right. What is it like now and what is your view on relationships since you've been engaged and since you've been in that place where you could actually really meet someone.
Blake Moynes
Is the question like what's the view on how hopeless or. Or how much hope I have? Like what is like what is the talk about relationships?
Rachel
Cuz I think that's a big question cuz you were on the Bachelorette, you got engaged, you were ready for that, but now you're in a place where it's really difficult for you to have a relationship. So let's talk on how difficult it can be when you're in these situations where you're traveling for months at a time. How hard is it to have a relationship?
Blake Moynes
It's been extremely challenging to prioritize anything else. Imagine trying to show up for somebody and this is a really interesting scenario. Last summer, met somebody back home. It's great. There was no reason. Yeah. In Toronto, there's no reason why I would have not been able to. But when you're getting texts and it's taking you a really long time to text that it's back because you have all these other things going on. And it's not that I don't want to, but if I don't have the money, the time to show up and I'm stressed and you see me moving the way I move, I'm not present with you the way I could be, not present with anyone here that I could be. My mind is. Is elsewhere. And so if I'm meeting people that I actually do like, I'm like. And that's it. I put little. It kills me. And that's. I've had these scenarios bugs my hair where imagine showing up someone you actually really like and you can tell that they're kind of disappointed and they're like, you're like, this isn't my normal self. Cuz when I'm. When I have time and things are chill and if I'm working more of a normal job, the way that I show up is tenfold what I am right now. And so when you're showing up as like a 4 to 10, when you know you could be a 10 and attend, how you deliver and show up for someone that deserves it and how you would want to treat your person. So it's so challenging to. So why entertain it?
Rachel
So what you're saying is that the position you're in right now you feel like you're unable to give the time and energy to a woman.
Blake Moynes
To at least 95% of the population of women that I've met. I think there's a. In this exact moment, I think there's maybe a 5% that would understand or at least be in a similar position where they're trying to do something that. And though they're independent, but they're chasing this thing.
Rachel
So let's talk about the point you're at now which has changed Son's paradise. You are in a completely different position. What kind of a relationship and what are you looking for now currently, since everything has changed since people have last seen you in paradise.
Blake Moynes
Yeah. I think that the thing that would work would 1 I think someone that's aligned in this space you want someone in would be at least understanding. Because if they're not understanding then we're screwed. Right. Because it's not for the money.
Rachel
Understanding what if
Blake Moynes
understanding why I'm doing this because it's not for the money. And so wait, that's a great way to say it. And you're not even bringing in money and you're doing. You're like what are you doing? And like how is this even. How are you gonna. How are we gonna start a family? Blah blah. It's like I really confident that we'll get there, but right now it's just not the thing that I'm chasing. I think it's hard for people to understand that. You know, we've talked about these things before where it's like I'm so obsessed with animals that people are like, it's kind of weird.
Rachel
It kind of is.
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Blake Moynes
Right? Or it's like it's not for everybody.
Rachel
Yeah.
Blake Moynes
And so not everyone's gonna understand me. And so I think that is one challenging aspect. I'm saying there's very few people in the world that you will run across, guy or girl, that will understand and get what you're talking about.
Rachel
Are you able to talk about your last relationship and what happened in that and why it didn't work out because of this?
Blake Moynes
Yeah, I mean, the last, the, I mean the last, I mean, I'll call it, I think it was in between.
Rachel
You were in a relationship.
Blake Moynes
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Rachel
Yes, yes, yes. So a year and a half ago you were seeing someone.
Blake Moynes
Yeah, a year and a half ago, seeing somebody amazing.
Rachel
We loved her.
Blake Moynes
Yes. I mean, you said I was an idiot.
Rachel
Correct. Stand by that.
Blake Moynes
Yeah. And totally fair. And I, I, I think that's one of the hardest hitting things is that I also know that, that you're an idiot and that's what makes it challenging. But the thing also is that we're having honest conversations. Like she was incredible. Got along in every single way.
Rachel
You met someone that matched you, which is difficult.
Blake Moynes
Matched me, personality wise. We just hit it off in a way that I didn't think I was really going to. It was a really one off scenario.
Rachel
She surprised you?
Blake Moynes
Yeah, yeah. And I was actually on my way to South Africa. I landed in New York, met up for a date. I remember I just gave her a date and a time and a DM and we met up and then it popped off from there and it was, yeah, it was a back and forth, an interesting situation, but she was, yeah. There's very particular moments where I remember feeling very like this. I think this could be, this could work, really work. There's no way that it. But it was on her. Very loving, very nurturing, very. She was very wholesome. You could tell that her energy, the way in which she presented herself was just always felt very, from the, the way I would say it, very from the heart. And that it was always, I know. I just remember feeling very, always. She was so gen. So genuinely wanting and, and I knew that she was very, very deserving. And I think the challenge. And she was always emotional. She always wore a hard earned sleeve and I think she's been fucked over a lot. I think that she hasn't.
Rachel
She had some trust issues.
Blake Moynes
Trust issues. And I think when she would break down those barriers and bring down those walls, which would take some time, which took us a lot of time to kind of get there. As first month we're going back and forth for a while until I got back from South Africa.
Rachel
So you're having these conversations while you're away, which is already difficult. All.
Blake Moynes
But it was, I think, the thing that allowed a lot of confidence when we got back and we started flying to each other. It was. It just. Everything made a lot of sense. We got along so, so well through. Through everything. Yeah. And it just fucking made sense in person. And I, you know, one thing is from the, from the phone, but then it started making sense in person and then the connection physically was there with just like little things and like the little.
Rachel
I'm gonna do that.
Blake Moynes
Yeah, but all the little things. But like those are things I hadn't had for. Since Katie, because it was true since Katie.
Rachel
So you hadn't experienced these feelings since Katie is the biggest.
Blake Moynes
Like the things that like feels like you're like, oh my. I'm like I'm in a relationship again. These are little things you do only when you're in a relationship.
Rachel
And explain why maybe it didn't work out.
Blake Moynes
Yeah, I mean, there's a combination of things obviously that we can't get into. But when it came down to it, we would have periods of time because she was away and she was doing her own shows and I had my own things going on with a combination of different shows and things that were happening at that time. It was an interesting. So I think out of respect for her, when I was even dating her, I never even. We hung out all the time and would fly to see each other and, and continuously and it just wasn't. I think there was something about that that she really respected. I didn't even give a. About any of that stuff. And we kept it hush, hush and we, you know, moved through the city. I mean we were out in the city a lot in New York and, and, and hanging out a ton and some of the things. There were some photos that came out and stuff like that. But yeah, I, it just, it just wasn't that we just got along. I just. We felt like best friends while we're doing our thing and. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think this is the unfortunate thing is that I didn't necessarily foster that the way I could have in the time. And I think timing was terrible otherwise I maybe would have managed that a little bit differently. But I think schedules, timing, the things I was getting into and we had a lot of serious conversations about you know, big picture and you know, what that would look like where ideally this person would, she, she would want to live and you know, financial stuff. We went into a lot of things and there's a lot of things we got into and financial. I'm like, okay, well that number going to be really challenging for me to meet probably in the next at least three years. And if I can't, like if I can't be around the way that you would like me to and it's gonna be challenging for me to meet that I'm not gonna necessarily be the type of lifestyle that maybe you would hope and expect and want and maybe deserve and I can't deliver that. These are the things that start to build over time. Even though it's such a great fun and scenario where it's like is I think that's why the break on it sucked. And I remember it very like it was an emotional breakup because it wasn't a thing based on personality and us getting along. It was like do those things make up compatibility wise for like an actual partnership based on the things that you're gonna need and based on where I am and what the fuck I do and kind of your vibe and, and your lifestyle is very different from mine. So it wasn't a me and you heart to mind issue where we weren't compatible. That wasn't the thing. I think it was the lifestyle and me prioritizing the situation that I was in at the time because I don't really have another choice and I just don't know if there was a full understanding there. But I think that's, I think the challenge. I think it was a time sensitive thing. I think if it was snipped another five years in terms of there could have been more things that alleviate the compatibility issues where maybe I'm much more ahead by that point and some of those things aren't even a thing anymore. And I think there's just a lot of stuff but I put a lot of it on myself because I remember neglecting a lot and I went wasn't as present and as I didn't show up the way that I should have wanted to. And that's the challenge I could want to do. I was like fuck, like how do I gotta choose right now? And when I was choosing I was choosing something else. Not because she wasn't fucking incredible. It's like when I have no money, what the fuck do I do? Especially if I can't deliver to be the person that she wants, needs it in her partner. And that's what the stuff I'm like, fuck. So that those are the hardest ones. Because when it's something else where it's like you're bickering, you're fighting and it's like, okay, whatever, fuck off. Like it's not gonna work. But it was never that.
Rachel
There's nothing about your guys's relationship that didn't work beyond the fact that you just have this lifestyle that is like, no one can really understand. Like, I can't imagine if I was
Blake Moynes
the, the earlier version where I had a lot of time that I could like fucking really dedicate. There's no, there's not a question. There's not a question. There's not a question. I wouldn't be in a relationship right now if I had time. Because I, it's. I've always been a relationship a whole fucking 20. So everything. But it's just there's decisions that have been made three years from now ago to now that don't allow me to be, to have the time, the energy to give to somebody.
Rachel
Do you regret anything in that, looking back now, because that was your last relationship?
Blake Moynes
I don't necessarily regret the decision because I know the amount of impact fucking we're making right now from that component. And so I think it's a like
Rachel
bigger picture for Sosa. Like you couldn't take back the time that you wanted to give her. In a way.
Blake Moynes
I think it truly comes down to time and I think it truly comes down to the moments that we were both in. And she also had a lot going on, but not to the same degree of being away and needing to, you know, fighting for your life, to sustain your life per se. She didn't have that problem, which time issues and time zone issues. But no, I mean, I, I always, I, I want to run into her again. I know I would love to run into her again.
Rachel
Yeah.
Blake Moynes
Just to like. Because when you have, when you felt a really good friendship and you cut it since then, you know, you'd be excited to see them again. Especially when it didn't end off on anything bad at all.
Rachel
You know, it's so funny, cuz I just had that situation. You were in the car and you're like, well, if it didn't work out, it's just not supposed to work out.
Blake Moynes
With who?
Rachel
The relationship. I told you in the car.
Blake Moynes
Oh yeah, but that's fine.
Rachel
No, and let it be on the record that every single time I bring a man to your desk, you're like not good enough. No, no, no. Have you ever liked anyone I've ever brought you?
Blake Moynes
No. But you don't have a good picker.
Rachel
That's false.
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Blake Moynes
I'm sorry, but if we bring up those names. If we were to bring up those names, I think a lot of people.
Rachel
What is wrong with me? The men that I choose, in your opinion?
Blake Moynes
I don't know. It's like you like it to be challenging and like. Like, it's just like, why there's no grounded, like, honest. Just like, this is what they do. Like this. They know themselves. No, I feel like you. People that don't know who they are yet and they're still figuring themselves out, and that's a challenge on top of the. On everything else.
Rachel
I love a challenge. What can I say?
Blake Moynes
Well, I mean, you're choosing the wrong ones.
Rachel
Don't we know. Doesn't the world know that? That is the truth.
Blake Moynes
Yeah. So maybe getting out here and doing a little bit of a reset in this project. Come back.
Rachel
What do you think? I, like, ideally, like, should look for, Because we talk about this.
Blake Moynes
Who do I think you need? Or what are the qualities of characters?
Rachel
Yeah, because I think I. I actually do. As much as I want to fight, you think that there is a general consensus that I do not pick the best plan.
Blake Moynes
No, you don't.
Rachel
Yeah. So what do you think from. Cause you're one of my best guy friends. What do you think I should look for going forward?
Blake Moynes
What I think you need is what I don't like. I know you're not interested in it. That's what sucks. But I think. I just think you need. You just, I think choose people who don't know who they are yet.
Rachel
It's a good way to put it.
Blake Moynes
They're kind of usually like, lost, artsy, kind of like this. They're kind of just like. They're kind of like artsy, like. Yeah. I don't know. They're kind of. They're. They're just. They're uniquely different in ways. But I think that I Just think you need someone more grounded and understands who they are and are more of a rock, because.
Rachel
I agree, but I know that's not.
Blake Moynes
I know that's not interesting enough to you, but I think that it allows you to be you and do you and you can come back to something that's grounded and knows. I think when you're having somebody who's, like, volatile in their life doesn't help you. And I think that some of the people you have chosen in the past are rocky boats that you, like, don't know what the. Like, it's like a tipping canoe, and you're constantly on there trying to, like, balance it, and eventually you just tip off.
Rachel
Yeah.
Blake Moynes
So why don't you, like, get more of, like, a bigger, nice, solid, big raft where it can't tip and, you know, and you can land on it whenever that you need to and it's not going to tip and you can go and. And do your thing.
Rachel
Sounds boring to me.
Blake Moynes
Okay, well, you can give it another five years and maybe you'll eventually change.
Rachel
Not five. That's crazy.
Blake Moynes
We'll keep picking the ones you have and the names that you've been throwing
Rachel
out to me, and I barely throw out a name. I literally, I'm like. I reconnected with so and so. No immediate.
Blake Moynes
Now two seconds out. Now two seconds. I know.
Rachel
It's so true. It is so true. And I love, though, that we know each other and we're able to, like, talk about these things because I feel like you are my sounding board.
Blake Moynes
Well, I see you in extremes, so I know how you're gonna, like, navigate.
Rachel
Yeah, yeah, that's. It's very true.
Blake Moynes
And so someone else is just, like, floating around through, like, not fully. No, you don't need that. You just don't.
Rachel
So what's next for you, relationship wise? Like, what's the ideal partner? Someone who loves rhinos, obviously.
Blake Moynes
Yeah. I wish I had the answer.
Rachel
You have an answer? We've talked about it.
Blake Moynes
I mean, I. I think to live and fight the kind of, you know, to fight the battle that I, you know, been on, where you feel fueled in the same passion. I think there's something so invigorating by that because it is a lifestyle, but it's something that is. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like. So it's. It's invigorating, but.
Rachel
Yeah.
Blake Moynes
And so to find someone that could do this, you know, I have the
Rachel
ability to bring people.
Blake Moynes
Yeah. Like, I think the pat. The aligned passion because otherwise I may always choose helping wildlife and helping endangered species and helping all the people that are dedicating their life to it. Because that is like a thing that I can always feel fulfilled by that I don't need to have something, someone else fulfill me because I could be fulfilled by doing that, that and helping the people that are out there with that passion fueled by that. And so, you know, that's why I can be happy with that 70 that I do have and not worry about that 30. But that 30 with somebody that is aligned with me would be like the best life in the world. I just think that it's so challenging.
Rachel
And I think something too we always talk about is I think a lot of people who see you on the Internet are like, he needs someone that they're gonna like give up their life to like come and like support you. But I feel like that's like the opposite of what you say that you want you.
Blake Moynes
I don't, I don't have to have you here. Do you want to come and do this? Sure. Look at how you've shown up. Right. Like I have the ability to bring people along and do this in different ways and support in different ways. And you know, we have needs across the board. I said we don't have that much cash. But I just need at least somebody who maybe fits the same mold but in a different light. Someone who has a lot of goals and is driven, is chasing a thing they've always wanted to. Because I can so much resonate with that and support that because I know how much support means to me. So I'm like, like I will send all that back to you. Do whatever the you want to do and I'll support you in any single way. And I know that you may not line up with the time where I'm like, there's one night where I'm waiting there be like I wish I could like get on a FaceTime with her because you're doing this or that. And there's times where I want that too. And that's the challenge that I had with that last relationship. I'm like.
Rachel
Cuz she had her own passion.
Blake Moynes
Like she has. Yeah. And so
Rachel
someone who shares the fire,
Blake Moynes
the fire of the chasing life in a way that fulfills you and you're passionate about. Because I can get behind that. I don't care if it's eight months until I see you. But if I know that you are so happy and driven and pursuing something that is meaningful, I get it. Because I know that I All I want in mind is just support in trying to do that and something that resonates in support of the decisions and the thing that I'm trying to do. And so if I some find someone that is doing that for anything else, I don't give a what it is, I can get behind it because I know how important it is to be supported. So like I'll give you all of it. So I think that would be the one thing.
Rachel
And I'm so glad we're able to have this conversation just because obviously I see things online, I see what everyone is saying about, you know, everyone has their opinion, especially on me on YouTube. But because we are so close and I know these things about you, I'm so happy that you're able to come on here and talk about it. I really do appreciate you obviously opening up about this. I know it's been such a crazy conversation and it's crazy having this conversation with you in this environment because yesterday we were sitting here having this heart to heart. So I really do appreciate you being able to open up to the listeners. Anything else you want to add?
Blake Moynes
No, I mean, I appreciate you coming. I think that this is a really interesting project that I hope turns out. I hope that you can see what I'm seeing and I think that you're gonna add layers to the pieces to the puzzle. That hard for me to see from like little. The little things. You know, I see the big picture. I know it needs to be slotted, but I think there's a straight story to tell and that's why I think you could be supportive on it. And I appreciate you coming. If you want to support with anything that we have going on right now. I mean, the Sosa is one thing, we cover a lot of different organizations, but I think the thing that is the most heartfelt and the thing that you could also stand by is being done at the orphanage with Ronald and all the rhinos that are coming in here, from the babies to the, the bigger orphans into the release project. There's a lot going on here. So Zooland Conservation Trust, Zooland Rhino Orphanage, both on Instagram. I just adopted Reinold 12 days ago. You can too. And we're going to follow along with his, his little life and see how the next two years go for him until we finally release him in, in two years from now.
Rachel
Well, we love Ryl and I know Bach donation loves you. So thank you for being here and make sure you guys follow along and you can follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour and Bachelor nation and make sure you rate, review and subscribe wherever you listen to the podcast. And thank you so much for being here.
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In this deeply personal episode of Bachelor Happy Hour, hosts Charity Lawson and Rachel Recchia sit down with former Bachelorette contestant Blake Moynes for Part 2 of their candid conversation. The episode focuses on Blake’s demanding work in wildlife conservation, the unseen toll it takes on his personal life, and his evolving views on relationships after his reality TV journey. Listeners are treated to behind-the-scenes moments, honest reflections on heartbreak and sacrifice, and an unfiltered discussion about what it takes to juggle passion, friendship, and love while living an unconventional life.
The conversation is raw, emotionally intelligent, and at times teasing or playful, maintaining the genuine and candid nature both Rachel and Blake are known for. Listeners will appreciate the mix of vulnerability, humor, and unfiltered honesty about both career and matters of the heart.
This episode will resonate most with listeners interested in personal growth, altruistic sacrifice, and the real-life challenges beyond reality TV fame. For more on Blake’s conservation work, visit the Zooland Conservation Trust and Zooland Rhino Orphanage on Instagram.