Cary Fetman: Behind the Seams of ‘The Bachelorette’s’ Most Fabulous Looks | Happy Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour Episode: Cary Fetman: Behind the Seams of ‘The Bachelorette’s’ Most Fabulous Looks | Happy Hour Original Air Date: May 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, laughter-filled episode, hosts Charity Lawson and Rachel Lindsay sit down with acclaimed “Bachelor” and “Bachelorette” longtime stylist Cary Fetman for a deep dive into the fashion, drama, and behind-the-scenes camaraderie that define the franchise’s most iconic looks. From hand-beaded gowns and last-minute wardrobe surgery to the logistics of rainy premiere nights and the emotional bonds formed over fittings, the group recounts memorable fashion moments, spills insider secrets, and celebrates Cary’s role as both style genius and on-set confidante.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Artistry Behind the Gowns (03:34–05:59)

• The opening centers on the herculean effort behind the custom gowns, especially the hand-beaded masterpieces such as Michelle’s finale dress.
  • Cary Fetman: "There are four women that sit with a piece of stretch fabric and each one of them is sewing an individual bead. And they all meet in the middle and then they go to the next row." (04:42)
  • The immense labor is what makes Randy Rahm's dresses both beautiful and expensive.

2. The Relationship With Randy Rahm (06:40–08:32)

• Since Rachel Lindsay's season, every Bachelorette has worn Randy Rahm on night one.
  • Cary Fetman: "Everybody thinks I'm sleeping with Randy Rahm. I am not. ...I talk to all of you guys for like an hour beforehand asking you about your underwear, about... what type of bras do you like?" (06:51)
• Cary discusses how personal each woman’s wardrobe is, going beyond looks to comfort and mood.

3. Logistics: The Struggles and Solutions (08:33–09:23)

• Cary and the hosts joke about the difference in prep for men ("Makeup and hair takes them six minutes. Getting dressed takes them three minutes.") versus women, who need hours and often support each other in pushing for special wardrobe touches.
• The team preps for long, cold shooting nights and always keeps comfort and confidence in mind.

4. “Behind the Scenes” Game: Iconic Looks and Their Stories

Rachel's Night One Dress (10:36–12:49)

• Recap of Rachel’s legendary slit dress (“Let’s take it all the way over here. I love a slit.”, Rachel, 06:21) and the personalized adjustments.
  • Charity Lawson: "Because people have to remember I'm five two. So this dress on me compared to...Michelle’s, her slit would be down here where it was, like, literally up to my...belly button." (12:01)

Charity's Night One Dress (17:39–19:19)

• Reflections on the “Austria” dress and little-known night-one realities: heavy gowns soaking up rain and the need for multiple shoe changes.
  • Carrie Fetman: "That dress, trying to keep it up because it was so heavy. …the dress is absorbing every piece of that dirty water. And as the dress is getting heavier, I'm watching the dress falling down..." (17:51)
  • Charity: “I always made sure I was drunk enough.” (09:28)

Hannah Brown’s Promo Pant Dress (19:31–21:21)

• The now-iconic pant dress for Hannah’s promo, once hated by its wearer but key to an award-winning campaign.
  • Carrie Fetman: "She hated the outfit but she didn't understand what the commercial was going to be...If she rolls her ankle and she can't be in heels for the next two days, I'm gonna kill all of you." (19:44–20:24)

Jen's “Men Tell All” Dress (21:51–22:36)

• The team laughs about the duct-tape-level prep and security for live shows, emphasizing the extra pressure when fans are present.

Cindy's “After the Final Rose” Dress (22:45–23:36)

• Praise for Cindy’s confidence and Cary’s inside scoop: “That metal is the wire...when she sat, there’s nothing I could do.” (23:18)

Taylor Frankie Paul’s Night One Dress (23:54–25:27)

• Taylor wanted to avoid sequins and “Bachelor looks”, but surprisingly gravitated to beaded glamour pieces during fittings.

The Bachelorette Reunion Photo (30:41–33:16)

• An emotional highlight: the cast reunion, hugging, and Cary’s reflections on friendship, pride, and his “kfelling” (Yiddish for swelling with pride).
  • Carrie Fetman: “If I'm gonna die, this is the way I want to die today. Just like this." (31:42)

5. Personal Stories and Emotional Bonds (33:16–38:43)

• Cary shares pre-finale stories (Jojo’s late-night phone call; Hannah Brown seeking refuge) underscoring his unique role as emotional anchor for the Bachelorettes.
  • Carrie Fetman: "Each one of you, in your own way, has shown me an amount of respect, an amount of love, an amount of caring, and just making me feel as though I was the most loved person in the whole wide world." (32:10)
• The conversation becomes especially heartfelt as hosts and Cary acknowledge the familial bond they've built over years, including post-show letdowns and ongoing connections.
  • Carrie Fetman: "It's like after you throw a wedding and you have this whole buildup, and all of a sudden... the next day you wake up and you're...depressed." (38:18)

6. Gratitude, Secrets, and Hilarious Closers (38:57–40:44)

• Cary admits to only having issues with two contestants ("Two people that I had a rougher time with...two out of 24 years is not so horrible." - 39:09), but those relationships later turned positive.
• Rachel and Charity thank Cary for his love and effort: “We love you.” “I can't let go of any of you. Never.” (38:57–39:01)
• Cary expresses his love for the cast and his thrill at finally appearing on the podcast: “I've always said no, and now I'm so thrilled about doing it.” (40:14)
• Plugs: Instagram handles and future “Happy Hour Live” plans (40:44).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There are four women that sit with a piece of stretch fabric and each one of them is sewing an individual bead... It's insane.” – Cary Fetman (04:42)
• “If I told you you're getting on a Saturday night date, tell me what you would wear out of your closet. And I also make you bring it.” – Cary Fetman (07:37)
• “The men have it easy. They can put on a sweater or jeans, walk out so easy. Makeup and hair takes them six minutes.” – Cary Fetman (08:36)
• “Let's take it to the house. Take it all the way over here. I love a slit.” – Rachel Lindsay (06:21)
• “I can't. I know that I need to be at least the person that buttons the last button [at your wedding].” – Cary Fetman (37:56)
• “Each one of you, in your own way, has shown me an amount of respect, an amount of love, an amount of caring, and just making me feel as though I was the most loved person in the whole wide world.” – Cary Fetman (32:10)
• “If I'm gonna die, this is the way I want to die today. Just like this.” – Cary Fetman, on the Bachelorette reunion (31:42)
• “Two people that I had a rougher time with... two out of 24 years is not so horrible. ...and we've become really close since.” – Cary Fetman (39:09)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------| | 03:34 | Intro to gown construction & anecdotes | | 04:42 | Hand-beading: the labor behind the dresses | | 06:40 | The Randy Rahm legacy and personal touches | | 10:36 | Start of "Behind the Scenes" look breakdown | | 12:01 | Night One dress adjustment stories | | 17:39 | Charity's rain-soaked night one & shoe chaos | | 19:31 | Hannah Brown's iconic promo suit | | 30:41 | The Bachelorette reunion emotional reflections | | 33:16 | Cary's late-night support for contestants | | 38:18 | Post-season letdown: "wedding is over" feeling | | 39:09 | Cary on contestant relationships | | 40:14 | Cary’s gratitude & joining the podcast |

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Episode Tone and Takeaway

Full of warmth, playful teasing, and honest reflection, this episode showcases the rarely seen emotional backbone behind Bachelor Nation’s glitzy wardrobe. Cary Fetman comes across as a creative force and a trusted friend to the stars, sharing both wardrobe secrets and heartfelt moments that span decades of reality TV magic. Longtime fans will find themselves newly appreciative of the collaboration, adaptability, and love that go into every memorable look—and the human bonds that outlast the final rose.

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Transcript

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[Rachel Lindsay]

Welcome back, everyone. We are back for part two with Carrie and we have so, so much more to talk about. So let's get right to it. Speaking of like reconstruction of gowns, obviously I remember mine because I was like having some little episode with the high neck. So I was like, can we just take the neck out? Can we do like a sweetheart neckline? Mine apparently had to be rebuilt and sent across the country. I don't.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I didn't even had to go back to. Yeah, I needed to send it to

[Rachel Lindsay]

Randy rom literally multiple times. And then Michelle's. Hers was hand beaded. It took how, like how long?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Michelle's dress not only hand beaded, but hers was about. I know that there was a story about the guy that Michelle's dress for the commercial was done by this young gentleman who is amazing talent, but his somehow in the story it came out that his dress took 600 hours to make. But the truth was it was a. It was her real dress, the Randy Rahm dress that she wore. They hand bead it. So in the back, back of her atelier, there are four women that sit with a piece of stretch fabric.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, my gosh.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And each one of them is sewing an individual bead. And they all meet in the middle and then they go to the next row.

[Rachel Lindsay]

What?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And that's crazy. It's insane. And that's just for this piece. And you know how long those dresses are.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Correct.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And that's why it takes Randy's dresses. And that's why Randy's dresses, number one, are so gorgeous.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

But number two, why they're also so expensive. It's just the Labor.

[Rachel Lindsay]

That makes sense, right?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Michelle's dress for the commercial was gorgeous, but this was somebody that I had told where to get the fabric. Fabric was my favorite. It was a burnt out velvet. He did a gorgeous job. I explained to him about how she likes one shoulder. She and I had already been working a little. We've been doing some press and things like that. So I started getting a feeling as to, like, what her favorite looks were. Like how you didn't like anything around your neck. Correct. You had. Right. You had always covered. But the slits on you started going higher and higher and higher, you know, and so we always find something that makes it look like you and a little sexier. You know, sometimes you look at a dress on the rack, it looks like, yeah. I mean, I gotta be honest. Even I look at and like, okay, do I even want to show this to anybody? And then all of a sudden, it picks up a new life when you see it on. And then if you give me a few minutes, and especially working with all of you, you guys get into it as much as I do. Where you're like, I don't like the slit on this side. Can we close that one and add one here?

[Rachel Lindsay]

That's my favorite question. You're like, can we raise a slit? I'm like, let's take it to the house. Take it all the way over here. I love a slit. So that was my favorite.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

She was the one I would make. Have to sit y. Yes. And see, can you sit sideways now?

[Rachel Lindsay]

Can you see me?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I mean, can you talk to a boy on either side of you if you have to?

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, I didn't play. I was like, cut it. I was like, keep going. Don't stop.

[Charity Lawson]

I'm dead. Speaking of Randy, every bachelorette since Rachel Lindsay has worn Randy on night one. What is the relationship there?

[Rachel Lindsay]

Love her.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Okay, Everybody will tell you. Charity went with me to a party that Randy did. I was. She was my date and Joan was my date. And we had the most amazing night. I know everybody thinks I'm sleeping with Randy Rahm. I am not. I. Everybody tells me on the phone I took. You know how I talk to all of you guys for like an hour beforehand asking you about your underwear? About what? You know, like, what type of bras do you like? What kind of bathing suits do you like? What kind of lingerie do you like? You know, and at that point, you're all a little shy by the time I get to. Well, you know, there's going to come a time where I'm going To need to buy you some lingerie, I think.

[Rachel Lindsay]

And you do.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And so, you know, I will usually go back to that question later, but we go through so many different things of, like, if I told you you're getting on a Saturday night date, tell me what you would wear out of your closet. And I also make you bring it. Just because I believe that there's got to be a night that you're not enjoying me. I mean, where. Just those nights where it doesn't matter what I would show you where you're just. But what I love is you're comfortable enough with me to say, can I just get dressed by myself? I'm really tired. I really don't want to be dressed up tonight. And you go and you pull something. And that's why I always tell people, bring your favorite two things. That way, if you're having a horrible day, you can go into your own suitcase and pull out. That never happens, but it's almost like a factory.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yes.

[Charity Lawson]

Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yeah.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I didn't. Besides, maybe, like, traveling people don't.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

But I think knowing that you can just makes it easier. Because there are nights where you just don't want to be touched again. And everybody forgets. The women are the hardest. The men have it easy. They can put on a sweater or jeans, walk out so easy. Makeup and hair takes them six minutes. Getting dressed takes them three minutes. You know, there's nothing to it. And if they're cold, they have a jacket with them. You guys are. I'm not ruining this outfit. Hell, no. And you know. And then the next thing you know, it's like, fortunately, I've pushed you just to find something. Let's get a leather jacket. That'll make sense with the outfit. Do something. Because when that sun starts going down or you start getting chilled, tell me you're gonna be miserable when you get home.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yes.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And how many times did you have to jump into a hot bath just to get those?

[Charity Lawson]

I always made sure I was drunk enough.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, I had my alcohol blister. Honestly. Yes. But I did have a female.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

That's what Gina and I. Maybe Gina, not so much. Cause she has to draw a straight line. That's why I don't zip you at night.

[Charity Lawson]

Going from the morning fitting to the night fitting, Completely different experience. Getting whatever you want.

[Rachel Lindsay]

It's a day and night, quite literally.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Just tell me what you want. I showed you things this morning. You kind of picked it. You're changing your mind. Knock your socks off. Just whatever. Go ahead.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Okay. I think we should do Our behind the scenes. This is so fun. We are going to play a quick game called behind the Scenes.

[Charity Lawson]

We.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Well, we'll show you some iconic looks and you're gonna have to give us the story behind them. So we even pulled our podcast staff so they pulled some looks and we're gonna show them right now.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yay. My favorite.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Okay.

[Charity Lawson]

Hello, everyone. We hope that you're enjoying the episode.

[Rachel Lindsay]

And if you are an audio only listener, head over to Bachelor Happy Hours Instagram. We have all the looks posted on our page so that you can check them out while you listen.

[Charity Lawson]

And we hope that you love this episode as much as we do.

[Rachel Lindsay]

First, we have Rachel's Night one dress. Oh, my goodness.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I love that. I mean, I know that everybody hollers at me about that I've used this dress. You know, Come on. I don't think. Right. I don't understand what people don't understand that there's only so many different styles of dresses. But tell me you did not feel beyond spectacular in that dress.

[Charity Lawson]

I loved that dress. I also loved there was, like, a green heel.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Right.

[Charity Lawson]

And I loved that. I think. Didn't we take the seam? It, like, got sewed up for the actual night one.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Well, because sometimes that's what happens on that night when I. It's almost a dress rehearsal, but it's not. Because you guys really. You're never really doing anything. You're just getting out of a car. You're not. Maybe you'll talk to Jesse, but. But, you know, that's more for me a little too, because sometimes that dress may not have had all of that lining in there. Sometimes I think a lining makes somebody look old. Especially lately, I've taken a few too many linings out, and I'm now starting to add them back in.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Got it.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And so, yes, that dress started going way too high where I could see everything.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Wow.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And I.

[Charity Lawson]

Because people have to remember I'm five two. So this dress on me compared to what it would be on, like, Michelle.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Charity Lawson]

Her slit would be down here where it was, like, literally up to my. That's my belly button. Where it was, like, hitting.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, I see. I'm like. It's past, like, past the hip bone.

[Charity Lawson]

I love that dress.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

May I remind you that she's also the woman who said to me, could we just go a little higher?

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, you was pulling at me.

[Charity Lawson]

I had to have something. Cause at the time, those are my old boobs. Those are my two boobs ago. And I hated them because I just wanted to be covered up so the only way I could be sexy was the slit. So we had a. That was a perfect compromise to me. And Carrie loved it.

[Rachel Lindsay]

She was one or the other.

[Charity Lawson]

I'm like, these are not coming out.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

The night before though, I was still trying to change the straps so that I knew when she sat down. Cause that dress when if you don't have the straps exactly where they need to be.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh no.

[Charity Lawson]

I said hello boy.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Hello boy is indeed Rachel and Gabby's

[Charity Lawson]

side picked from screen.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

That's how she learned that Pose your leg out under any circumstance. Just stick your leg out, you'll be fine.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Wait. I love it. No, this is gorge.

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[Charity Lawson]

Next we have Charity's night One dress.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, my goodness. Wait.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

This is like Austria to me.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Like, I can't.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

But the color.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Love the color. No, the color is everything.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

That dress, trying to keep it up because it was so heavy. Do you remember how tight it was?

[Rachel Lindsay]

It started raining. It started raining my night. When? Do you remember?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Of course I remember. Remember?

[Rachel Lindsay]

And the bottom, like, I was going.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I will never understand why we always shoot the women's in the winter and the men's in the summer. So the men are sweating their. Their ass out, and the women are sitting there in. You can see how wet the ground is. And the dress is absorbing every piece of that dirty water. And as the dress is getting heavier, I'm watching the dress falling down on her more and more.

[Charity Lawson]

Me and Journey both have new moves,

[Rachel Lindsay]

like, oh, yeah, zero cleavage time.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And freezing.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I mean, no, but I did. I love the color.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Me too.

[Charity Lawson]

People forget, though, that the driveway, it's wet, and then they keep rewetting.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah. So it has that little shine and the.

[Charity Lawson]

And the steam that's just, like, coming up. It's freezing.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, my God.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Freezing. Your shoes are already completely soaked within the first second, Literally.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yes.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

The dress is already absorbing the water.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Do you remember our shoe change? Because it was so wet. My strap. And I was like, kerry, come running. I'm like, I have no shoes.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

She is moving on to another date. She's supposed to be coming to me so that I can get her shoes. And all of a sudden, I see she's walking a different direction. I'm like, girl, you're not. You have no shoes on. I mean, what are you doing? Come to me.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, I literally was like, I can't wait.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I can't. Right?

[Charity Lawson]

Just bring my camera.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

She's like, just bring him to me.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, I literally.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

So I'm sitting there and I'm watching her.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Okay, next we have Hannah Brown's promo pant dress.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Oh. This will always be my iconic.

[Rachel Lindsay]

The pantsuit with the over skirt.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

This was the commercial, though.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I will tell you, out of all of the commercials that we've ever done, I. I have to say, this commercial won awards. This commercial deserved every.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah, this just great concept.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

She hated the outfit, but she didn't understand what the commercial was going to be.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And so she didn't know that she was going from pageant. Right. To just being a new bachelor. And it was the. The commercial took us at least felt like 24 hours. But she and I walked up and down A hill. And all I kept saying was, if she rolls her ankle and she can't be in heels for the next two days, I'm gonna kill all of you.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah, I remember you telling me that.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I was like, she and I would walk up this hill and down, and she'd walk down the hill, we'd walk back up the hill. And I kept saying, somebody tell me. You got it. This take.

[Charity Lawson]

This commercial is iconic. And Michelle's. Those were amazing.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, I love. I'm sorry. Something in my eye. But I love Michelle.

[Charity Lawson]

Yes.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Love.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Love Michelle's. That house was beyond. You know, we get to go into these most amazing locations. You've. You know.

[Dietz and Watson Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Just the travel alone. For the people who went through it with, you know, Covid, I just feel so bad for what they've missed. I mean, we've been in castles, we've been in palaces. We've been in people's homes that are. I mean, I walked through a man's closet and just thought, I'm just going to move in here. I don't care.

[Rachel Lindsay]

That was as a New Orleans. I was like, no, that.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

It's insane. And doing the commercials were so much fun. Rachel's two, they. I must have had to redo petals. We had 17 different things that each time she would take a different step. I would change the skirt going a different direction so that her leg. So that her leg would kick out these small things.

[Charity Lawson]

People don't realize.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I know Perry is behind all of it. There's so much.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Trust me.

[Charity Lawson]

Okay, next is Jen's Mentel all dress.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, love that dress.

[Charity Lawson]

I love that dress. I could not remember that one when I saw it on the list.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I love that one.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

She is taped into it.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I know that's right.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

We're in a live studio with fans all around us, so can I have a moment? No. Right now there. You know, it's one thing on the show, if the cameramen see something and they, you know, and they scary. But, you know, when we're in a live thing. No, I prefer. And she. She felt gorgeous. I mean, I. I think I would have closed it a tiny bit, but I think when I went to.

[Rachel Lindsay]

She was. Honestly.

[Charity Lawson]

Yes.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I believe my hand was swatted.

[Charity Lawson]

I love the way it's like.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, it's perfect.

[Charity Lawson]

And that color on her, like you said, is fantastic.

[Rachel Lindsay]

The color is so good. Next is Cindy's. After the final rose dress.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Cindy's dress.

[Rachel Lindsay]

She looks hot.

[Charity Lawson]

She looks so hot.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I'm like, I love it.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And she. Right. She. She is Gorgeous. I mean, this is a woman in, you know, we're. We're talking, you know, my age. She looks amazing. It's. But she is.

[Rachel Lindsay]

She is that strapless or is it spaghetti straps? I can't see, obviously, because of her hair.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

It's. It's like a halter.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Halter. Amazing. No, I'm like, it's.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

It's fitting perfectly that that metal is the wire. Yes.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Charity Lawson]

I love the necklace.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

But even I can see now that there's a boob pab showing. So see, this is the things that I see. Like.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah, I'm like, you caught it quickly. Because I'm aware. I see it a little bit now.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Trust me when I tell you I tried, but her boobs also, she got it right. And so when that dress, I can bend it all I want, but when she sat, there's nothing I could do.

[Charity Lawson]

Next we have Taylor Frankie Paul's night One dress.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Oh. Oh, my baby. This is a dark olive. I know it looks black here.

[Rachel Lindsay]

It does. Because I was like, it looks black.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I loved the simplicity for her. And she had that green. I don't remember which one of you did not know how to hold a stole. You learned. You became good.

[Rachel Lindsay]

How to hold what?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

How to hold a stole. Like when you got cold.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Did I? No, because you would just drape it, right?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yeah. But you started wearing it like over one shoulder.

[Rachel Lindsay]

You know, it is what it is. I just need to be warm. Hello. At this point.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I mean, at one point, I think you were wrapping it around your neck like it was like a scarf. I'm like, thank you. I need to show you. Come on.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Did she have a black one?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

She had. She had a matching green.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, amazing.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Hers was a good stole.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Olive green. Love.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yeah.

[Charity Lawson]

That is stunning. Was Taylor, did she want to be more laid back like for her rose ceremony outfits or just like the day to day?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

No. Taylor had told me she wasn't into any sequence. I figured she didn't want any of the bachelor kind of looks. She didn't want to be shiny. She didn't want to be sequiny. She didn't want to be crystals and things like that. She wasn't into, you know, just know I've heard about this. Randy Rahm. I don't want any of her things.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, she said that? Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And she's like. I'm like, okay. I'm like. So we had a lot of plain dresses and different things, you know, But I looked at, like what she had ever dressed up in and I thought, okay, I know big oversized sweats and oversized.

[Rachel Lindsay]

She's very like chill, very chill.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And then we got to the fitting and she one thing she is besides having the sweetest, cutest personality and I will defend that until the end I die. But she also is a worker. She's fast, she's decisive and she knows and she was going down the rack and she kept handing me things and somehow it was a beaded Randy Rom, then another beaded Randy Rom, then a beaded Randy Rom.

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[Rachel Lindsay]

And last but certainly not least, the Bachelorette reunion.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

This was my favorite day. Oh my God. I didn't even say I was in there. You know. You know that I was in Tears that day, saying goodbye to everybody that day, seeing all of you in one place. I hadn't seen all of you together in so long. And I. The idea that that was the kind of love that I got. I mean, I was laying in bathtubs with some people. I mean, it was just. But wherever anybody wasn't on camera, I was kissing no.

[Rachel Lindsay]

100.

[Charity Lawson]

And you can see everyone smiles like.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Like the happiest. No, it's like, this is the happiest moment.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

This probably was.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I don't think you understand.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yeah.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Like, clearly everyone's feeling the same exact feeling, which is like.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yeah. Other than. Other than Gina, who was looking at me going, you, of course. Of course.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Like, who can say that? You know? Like, who can say that? They have.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Well, that's how I felt. I thought to myself, you know what? I don't care if. If this is. What if I'm gonna die, this is the way I want to die today. Just like this.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, my goodness.

[Charity Lawson]

This picture is just such a test.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Literally, I'm like, I actually need to frame it, too. I'm like, I need to frame this somewhere.

[Charity Lawson]

To how grateful we are for you and how you have impacted every single bachelorette's journey, which is crazy to look at and think that each person has a story and that you're behind so much of it.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah. So much.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

You've all touched my life. So unbelievable. I know people don't understand when I say it, and they're like, everybody couldn't be like that. And I didn't say everybody, but each one of you, in your own way, has shown me an amount of respect, an amount of love, an amount of caring, and just making me feel as though I was the most loved person in the whole wide world. And I've never felt. Felt like that ever. And that that day, you can just see I am. There's a word called. I'll try it again. Kfelling, which is supposedly a Yiddish term for just where I'm most proud of everybody that I am surrounded by. It was the best.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I love this.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I know. I'm like, that was a date.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Can someone print this out for me? Before I know, fly back home. I need this. I can print it out.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I mean, each one of you, you all had your own story. I mean, Jojo, I had to go. She called the night before on a. She found a landline in her room, called the hotel operator, asked for my room and said, I need you. And I'm like, it's 2 o' clock in the morning. What's going on? And I stayed with her the rest of the night. It was the night before the finale. And she's like, I just. I just need to talk this out with you.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I wish I found a landline. I know everybody was on my last one there. Yeah, I was ready to get the fuck out of there.

[Charity Lawson]

You're like, give me my man.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

But yours was so.

[Rachel Lindsay]

It was sweet, but I just was like, yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I mean, we didn't know.

[Rachel Lindsay]

It just. Everybody was doing right.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

It wasn't even a question.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Correct.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

So yours was simple. Hers was simple too.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, it's like, I feel like me and Jojo both, like, we definitely knew, but I think we were like, having

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

this, like Jojo was just having, where she's like, I need. I need you to crawl in bed with me. And I mean, I'm sure you've all seen my beautiful nighttime outfit. I wear a 5x tee that cut a V and it is an extra large tall, and it comes down to here. And I have these shorts that I wear that I have that I buy from London. This is. This is the one you talked through. You've never seen them.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I have seen them.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

How have you never been in bed with me?

[Rachel Lindsay]

I have not. Not in your nighttime PJs.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Oh, well, as soon as I walk in my house, I usually have. Tonight, all three of us lay in

[Charity Lawson]

bed with him and Gabby's night one in Car's bed in our matching uniforms. And I still have it to this day, and I would never get rid of it. I am hollering, Rachel, I'll wear mine to his house.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I mean, Hannah Brown had her own, but Hannah Brown. I wasn't even there when Hannah Brown. Hannah Brown came back to my house when. When her show is over and. Or she was. We were on a different show already, I guess, and she had. When she was about to break up and they asked her where she. What they could do for her and she's like, just take me to Carrie's house. And she. She knew that how to get in. And all of a sudden I'm getting phone calls later because it was the middle of the night for us. And the other Rachel.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Oh, Rachel.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Her too, though.

[Charity Lawson]

Carrie's apartment, when you are actively going through a breakup and the season is airing is another vibe. And it's a good vibe. It's an amazing vibe, but it is another level. I was there. I was trying to get my revenge dress. Jen. So many of us, unfortunately, but so many happy stories.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

So many happy stories. I mean, look at all the children. I feel like a grandfather of so many now. I mean. And now the babies are having babies.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah, I know.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I mean, how spectacular of a life. I mean, to think that I started when these kids. I mean, she was five years old, and now she's pregnant.

[Charity Lawson]

Ricky, I think she had her baby.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Did she?

[Charity Lawson]

Yeah.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel Lindsay]

That's actually crazy because. Yeah, you were. Wow.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And she was one of those that I used to talk to every week, you know? And then over the years.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

You know, we are constantly on the road. I mean, my own friends say to me, do you. How do you think you're gonna keep your friends? I mean, you know, one time you're gonna come home and none of us are gonna answer the phone. I'm screaming, no, I know.

[Rachel Lindsay]

It's work.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

It's work. And I come home, and I just want to be in my cave for a little while.

[Charity Lawson]

Absolutely.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I don't blame you because we're with each other. Gina and I are together 24 hours a day.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah.

[Charity Lawson]

I mean, your legal wife.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

My real wife.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yes.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

As opposed to all of you that just become my little. My wives during the season. But I don't know what I would do without all of you, and especially the two of you. You guys have. You know how you both meant. You know what you meant to me. You know, how. How close we got. I mean, and how much I love for you. And you. You. Listen, when I see her, it just.

[Rachel Lindsay]

I. I can't.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I can't come to New York without her.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, literally, I'm like.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I mean, when I see Dot, and I go even crazier.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No, he does. I'm like, I just let them have their time.

[Charity Lawson]

I love it.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Take your time with him. She's like, well, obviously, in the midst of wedding planning, but obviously, because Carrie holds a tremendous, special place in my heart, I think I need to have a moment where he. Me and him have a little final look.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yeah. I know that I need to be at least the person that buttons the last button.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Truly. Yeah. Let the pictures. We'll do everything else, but I'll cry somewhere.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Yes, she knows. But you know when I go to say goodbye to you guys that I

[Rachel Lindsay]

cry, it's always like, oh, my God. I'm like, I can't.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I keep thinking to myself, I know I'm gonna talk to you in a week. I know that we're going home.

[Rachel Lindsay]

It's literally the same thing.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

It's not the same. I mean, it honestly doesn't feel the same I. I've been doing it long enough to know that once we're home and we're not together, every single day that I go into, like, a depression. It's like after you throw a wedding and you have. You know, you have this whole buildup, and all of a sudden the wedding is over. You've had a blast. And then the next day you wake up and you're. You're depressed.

[Charity Lawson]

I know.

[Rachel Lindsay]

We're just gonna keep partying. I'm gonna have, like, seven weddings.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Exactly. Just keep having a party.

[Rachel Lindsay]

First one's this year, Next one's next.

[Charity Lawson]

Every year.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yeah. No, literally, it's.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

It's. It is amazing. But each one of you does hold such a special place in my heart.

[Rachel Lindsay]

We love you.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I. I can't let go of any of you.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Never. You cannot.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Maybe one or two.

[Charity Lawson]

I was gonna say, who do you hate the most?

[Rachel Lindsay]

Tell us when we rap. No. Never. Never.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

No. You know What? It's funny. Two people that. That I had a rougher time with two out of 24 years is not so horrible.

[Charity Lawson]

Two people.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Two. And you know what? We've become really close since we. During one of those specials came up. She came up to me and said something, and it was like. Like nothing hit. As if we had always had the most wonderful love for each other. And I think it just made it more special because we realized, how stupid are we being? Hello. It was just.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Hello.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

You were having a rough season.

[Rachel Lindsay]

And that's all right.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

And I. Me, too. Guess what? I can't always have the best seasons either.

[Rachel Lindsay]

No.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

You know, so. I love you guys so much.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Thank you so much for being here.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Like, you have no idea how the

[Rachel Lindsay]

happiest episode truly is.

[Charity Lawson]

It really is. And I hope that everyone listening can feel the love that we have through this interview because this has just been so special. It's our dream interview. And we're so happy you agreed and we love you so much.

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

Only for you guys would I come on and. And sit in the studio. I've always said no, and now I'm so thrilled about doing it.

[Rachel Lindsay]

You guys hear that, right? Okay. He's always said no until it was Charity and Rachel next. I just said in third place time

[Charity Lawson]

we do this in your apartment.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Yes.

[Charity Lawson]

Happy hour live stream.

[Rachel Lindsay]

We'll have the camera just straight on. That's all we need. Just straight on. In bed, eating their food with Rachel with a drink in hand. And yes, add Rachel. Lindsay. So we'll ping her after this. Carrie, where can people follow you on socials?

[Carrie Ann Inaba]

I'm arieftman on Instagram.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Period.

[Charity Lawson]

Period.

[Rachel Lindsay]

Very, very simple and for us. You can follow us at Bachelor Happy Hour and Bachelor Nation and make sure you're keeping up rate Review subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and Cheers. We'll see you guys soon.

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[Charity Lawson]

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[Carrie Ann Inaba]

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