Charity, Dotun & Jeremy’s ‘Bachelor’ Tea Time!

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour: Charity, Dotun & Jeremy’s ‘Bachelor’ Tea Time! (Mar 6, 2025)

Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour
Hosts: Joe Amabile, Charity Lawson (guest co-host, former Bachelorette)
Guests: Dotun Olubeko (Charity’s fiancé), Jeremy (recent Bachelor franchise alum)
Episode Theme: A candid, behind-the-scenes roundtable about life post-show, season 29 of The Bachelor (starring Grant), the intricacies of Bachelor relationships and friendships, and some good-natured franchise predictions.

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Episode Overview

This episode brings together Bachelor Nation favorites Charity, her fiancé Dotun, and Jeremy for an energetic, chemistry-filled conversation. As they catch up with host Joe, the group dishes out personal updates, hot takes on Grant’s season, and predictions for the franchise’s future stars. Throughout, fans get an inside look at the real friendships, post-show dynamics, and the untold details left off-screen.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Life After The Bachelor (04:00 – 06:30)

• Travel and Couple Updates:

  • Dotun and Charity update Joe on their recent travels: Dotun returned from California, while Charity joined friends in Montana for a birthday—and “bikini photos in the snow” (05:04).
    • Dotun teases: “Her charity was for all them to take pictures in the snow and bikinis. Literally. That was the entire purpose of that trip” (05:16).
  • Charity assures: “He liked the photo, so that's what mattered. He liked what he saw.” (05:35)

• Bachelor Alumni Friendships:

  • Charity: “I'm like mother bear to everyone…me and a couple other girls really just connected with [Latia] early on” (06:06).
  • Both Charity and Dotun describe their seasons as unusually tight-knit, in contrast to some past casts.

2. Post-Show Friendships & Group Dynamics (06:25 – 07:22)

• Dotun says Bachelor Season 20's men remain uniquely close: “We all went to Mexico, like 16 of us last year, which is rare...at this point...I think it's usually groups of two, three, or four, and then some of them hate each other, and we don't have any of that.” (06:36)
• Jeremy, from a different season, nods to “smaller groups” and less cohesion.

3. Paradise Teasing & Franchise Speculation (07:53 – 09:42)

• Banter about Bachelor in Paradise: Jeremy claims he’s not going, but everyone doubts him.
  • Dotun: “I will bet ABC’s bank account that he will be.” (09:38)
  • Joe: “Do we want to place a wager on this podcast right now...I agree.” (09:36)

4. Current Season (Grant’s Bachelor) Breakdown (10:15 – 14:11)

Grant as Bachelor

• Dotun’s Impression: “He’s doing good...just got a different personality than anything that, like, I might sort of approach it with...but nothing bad. I think he's doing okay, you know?" (10:30)
• Handling Drama:
  • Joe: “I think he’s got to the root of the problem quicker than most leads do.” (12:23)
  • Charity disagrees somewhat: “He has left some...there for the plot a little bit longer, I think.” (12:41)

Eliminations & Standouts

• Discussion on Contestants Gone & Remaining: (13:12 – 14:11)
  • Joe surprised that Seraphina and Carolina are gone; Alex’s early exit despite early promise is noted.
  • Charity and Dotun both express admiration for Alex.

5. Hometowns & Parental Validation (19:16 – 26:31)

Pre-Hometowns Dynamics

• Jeremy reflects on going into hometowns, believing he was a finalist: “My producers were too. I thought I was going all the way. The question in my head wasn't like, if I was getting sent home, it was like, would I be ready to propose?” (20:38)
• Charity: “Overnights can change a lot of things.” (21:16)

Impact of Parental Support

• Dotun: “I would have still moved forward for sure. But yeah, just an added bonus and more weight to, I guess.” (23:00)
• Charity: “I probably would have been like, well, sorry...yeah, I'm still gonna do what I want to do.” (24:28)
• Joe on his own experience with Serena: “Her parents didn’t love the idea of her daughter getting engaged to someone that they never met...but I’m similar to Charity, where, like, parents, they eventually...they love me too, so it worked.” (25:31)

Memorable Families & Quotes

• Dotun’s grandmother is recalled fondly:
  • “She was the last person I saw before I flew back to New York. She’s awesome.” (26:15)
  • Charity: “More memorable than...said the best bar in history. Bonded in heaven, period.” (26:39)
  • Dotun: “You said, we're bonded in heaven in Yoruba.” (26:48)

6. What Viewers Don’t See & Delusions in the Bachelor Bubble (26:56 – 28:18)

• Jeremy: “As a cast member, you don’t know how the other interactions are, so you can only judge it based on yourself...” (27:50)
• Charity: “What we see...but you're obviously living it. It's completely different. It went better than what was shown, is what you're saying.” (28:07)

7. Behind-the-Scenes Encounters with Other Contestants (34:50 – 35:17)

• Jeremy has met “Alex, Beverly, Chloe, Seraphina” but insists “No, this is just, like, friendly encounters....they’re all good people.” (35:03)
• No secret Paradise plotting was discussed.

8. Life Updates, Dinner Plans, Plus Navigating Fan Curiosity (35:27 – 36:12)

• Charity jokes about the pressure for updates: “It's like, okay, what's the update?...We are not speaking out on that until we have everything solidified.” (35:56)
• Joe jokes about third-wheeling to dinner with Charity and Dotun.

9. Grant’s Final Four & Who Should Win (37:25 – 41:48)

• Top Picks:
  • Charity: “Top two would easily be Latia and Juliana...I am wanting more from Juliana...right now, I think Latia is his strongest relationship.” (37:34)
  • Jeremy: “I agree with Charity...I loved Latia’s hometown with Grant. I think they have something special.” (38:20)
  • Dotun: “I was fully expecting actually a pretty bad hometown because of the whole Mormon thing...but they’re the nicest people on Earth...Latia had a really sweet hometown.” (38:51)
  • On Zoe: “I think Zoe was a potential...I see...similarities between him and Zoe...” (39:44 – 40:03)

10. Who Should Be the Next Bachelorette? (40:14 – 41:37)

• Jeremy: “I could see it being Latia.” (40:38)
• Dotun: “I would say...Alex. She seems chill, seems smart, cool, normal.” (40:53)
• Charity: “Alex is normal, but like, her one liners this season delivered...I feel like she would have a great season. And also I would pick Latia if she...” (41:22)
• Joe: “I think Alex would have had a messy season too, because I think a lot of guys would have fell hard for her and it would have caused a lot of commotion in the house...That's what we need.” (41:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On cast friendships:
  “I think I would say we have the closest season ever in Bachelor history...all the guys were tight.” — Dotun (06:36)

• On Grant’s season:
  “He’s got a different personality...but nothing bad. I think he’s doing okay, you know?” — Dotun (10:30)

• Paradise speculation:
  “I will bet ABC's bank account that he will be.” — Dotun (09:38)

• On Bachelor breakups:
  “As a cast member, you don’t know how the other interactions are, so you can only judge it based on yourself and...” — Jeremy (27:59)

• Parental support:
  “If my feelings are strong, then it’s going to be okay and I’m going to move forward.” — Dotun (23:00)

• Who should be Bachelorette:
  “Her one liners this season delivered and I feel like...it would inevitably come out. And I feel like she would have a great season.” — Charity on Alex (41:22)

• Bachelor optimism:
  “I'm not going to just gas myself up...Me and her were not at that point yet. Like I was not in love with her at that point and other guys had expressed that. So it all worked out.” — Jeremy (28:18)

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Episode Timestamps for Key Segments

• Catch-ups & Post-show Friendships – 04:00 – 07:22
• Bachelor in Paradise Jokes – 07:53 – 09:42
• Grant’s Season & Contestant Discussion – 10:15 – 14:11
• Hometowns & Family Importance – 19:16 – 26:31
• Behind-the-Scenes, What’s Not Shown, and Delusion in the Bubble – 26:56 – 28:18
• Jeremy’s Friendly Encounters with Grant’s Contestants – 34:50 – 35:17
• Grant’s Final Four & Top Picks – 37:25 – 41:48
• Who Should Be the Next Bachelorette – 40:14 – 41:49

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

The conversation is warm, slightly chaotic, and loaded with friendly jabs and Bachelor in-jokes. Charity and Dotun share honest, sometimes silly reflections on fame, their relationship, and the nature of reality TV. Jeremy adds refreshing realism about competitive delusion in the “bubble.” It’s a must-listen (or read!) for fans who want to know what really happens post-filming, how deep contestant bonds run, and who Bachelor Nation’s most plugged-in alumni think should get the next shot at love on primetime.

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Transcript

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Joe]

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[West Prop]

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[West Prop]

All right, West. West Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know, I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here mandering all over the place. Hop out boys. Snatching up family members, and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein, we had to reach out to the homie Jamel Hill. Cause she gonna keep it a century in America.

[Charity]

What sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we.

[West Prop]

Treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the Hood Politics with Prop podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Podcast Announcer]

Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.

[Drew Phillips]

And I'm Drew Phillips.

[Podcast Announcer]

And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

[Drew Phillips]

If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated adhd.

[Podcast Announcer]

Oh, my God.

[Charity]

Perfect. Perfect.

[Drew Phillips]

And want to hear people with mental illness psycho babble.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Drew Phillips]

Then Emergency Intercom's the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartradio app, search emergency Intercom, and listen now.

[Joe]

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bach youh Happy Hour. I'm Joe, and I'm back with my co host, Charity. Charity, welcome.

[Charity]

Thank you. Happy to be here.

[Joe]

And we have two guests. We have Dotton, your husband, and. No. Oh, you're a fiance. Oh, yeah. You guys are.

[Charity]

Yeah, it's okay. Oh, yeah, he is and will be.

[Joe]

And. And Jeremy's here. Jeremy, welcome back.

[Jeremy]

Yo. I feel like we're all co hosts.

[Joe]

You could. Yeah, you could. You could be a. You could be a co host. You're. Honestly, you're professional with the muting and not muting your mic.

[Jeremy]

So I'm like, right on a freeway in Los Angeles. So I'm just trying to be respectful.

[Charity]

I appreciate that.

[Joe]

Wait, wait, you're in the. Are you in your car right now?

[Jeremy]

No, no, I'm at my buddy's place in la, and he's right off of a busy road.

[Joe]

Got it. Got it. And Daughton. How you doing, Dotton?

[Dotton]

I'm doing good. I'm doing good, brother. Life's good. Just got back to New York a couple days ago from a much needed trip to California. So life's good, brother. Living the dream. You know how it goes.

[Joe]

Did you guys go together?

[Charity]

Tell them how much you missed me?

[Dotton]

So much I had to sprint it back home. No, we went on a cruise that ended in Miami, and then after that, I went to California. She went to Montana with the girlies.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Dotton]

To take pictures in the snow and in bikinis. Literally. That was the entire purpose of that trip. Her charity was for all them to take.

[Joe]

Wow, he's throwing shade.

[Charity]

I'm gonna keep it really cute on Bachelor happy hour right now. I'm gonna keep it.

[Dotton]

Hey, you know how it go. We get.

[Jeremy]

No, no, don't keep cute. Yeah.

[Joe]

How do you feel about that?

[Charity]

He liked the photo, so that's what mattered. He liked what he saw.

[Jeremy]

I saw some comments from dying.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Dotton]

I didn't say I didn't like it.

[Charity]

We went to celebrate Jess's birthday, and we was like, why not? We're in Montana. Let's dial it up just a singular notch, okay? And that's what we did. And everyone's photos were great, and we had a great time.

[Dotton]

Okay, what's the.

[Jeremy]

What's the Latia connection? She seemed like the odd man out.

[Dotton]

That was very random. That's a good question.

[Charity]

Oh, it's not. If y' all know me. I'm like. I'm like mother bear to everyone. And, yeah, I. Katie and me and a couple other girls really just connected with her earlier on. She lives in Utah, so it was, like, close.

[Jeremy]

You still.

[Joe]

You still are friends with most of the girls from your season, huh? You guys are all pretty close.

[Charity]

Yeah, we are.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Charity]

A blessing.

[Joe]

Don, are you close with anyone from your season anymore?

[Dotton]

I think I would say we have the closest season ever in Bachelor history. Bachelor history? No, all the guys were tight. We all went to Mexico, like 16 of us last year, which is rare, right? At this point. I feel like it's usually like, groups of, like, two, three, or four, and then some of them hate each other, and we don't have any of that, which is sort of like what, Jeremy's. That's like Jeremy's group. They're like that, where they all kind of hate each other. But we're. We're all. We're all real cool. We get along real well.

[Joe]

I love how Dutton throws out bachelor history. Like, you've. You've never watched or you didn't even know you get engaged on the show.

[Dotton]

Hey, I'm a historian.

[Charity]

I went back 17 seasons, and the boys are not.

[West Prop]

They don't talk.

[Dotton]

I've been doing this. I've been in these streets for a while now. Joe, put some respect on my name, bro. That is true.

[Joe]

That is true.

[Jeremy]

Do. Do you not think about all these other guys kissing your fiance, like, when you're hanging out with them?

[Charity]

No.

[Dotton]

Wait, that's very funny. Not original, but the answer is no, I do not.

[Charity]

So, Jeremy, are you still close with the guys from your season?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I mean, you know, we're not all like a tight knit group, like. Like.in's cast or your cast, I should say. But, yeah, we're still close, I think. You know, me, Austin, a few of us might go to Nashville soon. Well, yeah, we'll do some trips.

[Charity]

Well, I see any of you guys at Stagecoach.

[Jeremy]

I don't like country music, but I heard it's a scene, so I'll go. I'll be there.

[Charity]

No, you won't, because you'll be in paradise.

[Jeremy]

No, I won't.

[Dotton]

Yikes.

[Joe]

All right, all right. Let's talk about that for a second. Well, first of all. First of all, Jerry, why do you have your shirt off right now?

[Jeremy]

It's a great question. I don't like wearing clothes. No, it's. It's like. I don't know. I mean, it happens to be 50 degrees in New York today, but it's been like 15 degrees. So I booked a book to flight to LA and it's 80 degrees. So you just. I'm trying to get a tan.

[Dotton]

Yeah, it's a beautiful app.

[Joe]

And you're saying you are definitely not going to paradise? Is that what you're saying?

[Jeremy]

I never say. For 100% certainty.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Jeremy]

It's not in the cards right now.

[Dotton]

Why he's gone.

[Jeremy]

You know, no specific.

[Dotton]

Reason you'd be trying to keep it cute.

[Charity]

No, no, it is us. It is.in charity and Joe, don't keep anything cute over here.

[Dotton]

Jeremy is the king of pretending. Like, I don't know, like. No. You gonna do it?

[Joe]

Jeremy, after watching Grant Season, has anything. Is. Has any of the girls that you would want to meet change? Like, did any of that change for you?

[Jeremy]

No. And I. I happened to meet a bunch of them back in, like, November in New York, so they're all cool, but no, it doesn't. Doesn't change anything. Okay.

[Joe]

Okay. All right. So Jeremy's not. Not going to paradise, but I, I think. Do we want to place a wager on this podcast right now? Charity? Do you guys think he's gonna be there?

[Dotton]

I will bet the house.

[Joe]

I. I'm with you. I. I agree.

[Dotton]

I will bet ABC's bank account that he will be.

[Charity]

Okay, so we can obviously let it rest that you're probably, or probably will be at Paradise. We don't know yet. But you are in LA right now. So I'm curious, are you doing out there?

[Jeremy]

It was sort of a last minute trip. I wanted some sun and then they were like, yeah, you should come through the tell. So I'll be front row maybe if they like me, I'll be front row getting some reactions from you during the girls fighting.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Charity]

So England after, probably.

[Joe]

All right, Dalton, have you. Have you watched. Have you been keeping up with the season?

[Dotton]

As much as I can, yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

So from what you've seen overall, how do you feel Grant's doing?

[Dotton]

Jesus. I think he's doing good. I mean, I think he's doing good. It's just like, he's. I mean, he's got a different personality than anything that, like, I might sort of approach it with. So, like, I think for the way that he's doing it, I think he's doing good. And, man, I would say, like, it's a tough thing too. You get criticized so much on that show for doing, you know, the smallest thing wrong, and I can't really think of anything egregious that he's done, you know, but, yeah, he's just like, he's got a different personality and I think it comes off a little bit different, but nothing, nothing bad. I think he's doing okay, you know?

[Jeremy]

What do you. What do you think of the music? You're a big music guy of, like, his music. Yeah. Or just like, involving music in the show.

[Dotton]

Oh, I mean, I don't think much of it, like, good for him. I think it's great. I heard the one song. The one song is good. You know it.

[Charity]

Loki is a bop.

[Dotton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeremy]

It's not bad nights like this.

[Dotton]

Okay.

[Joe]

Jeremy, Jeremy, are you at all surprised by anything Grant has done thus far? Like, has anything shocked you at all? Is it all on par with, like, his personality and who he is?

[Charity]

Yeah, because you're like, you're close with him, right?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I'm close with him. I feel like it is pretty on. On par. He is a lover boy. And I feel like when you say you're a lover boy, it actually might mean you're not. But he really is. I think he's approaching it well. I mean, you guys know how the show works. Like, not everything will be shown. So I think as an audience, sometimes you could be surprised at who might make it far, who might go home. But I'm not, I'm not necessarily surprised, but I think he's doing a great job, and I'm pumped to see who he's engaged to.

[Dotton]

I think he's done a pretty good job of, like, sort of reading out problematic people, which is, you know, I think one of the most important things, like, as far as who's left, I don't really see anybody.

[Joe]

I, I, I really agree with that, actually. I think he's done. I think he's done a really good job at that too. Yeah. Which also, it doesn't, it doesn't really make for the best tv. But I feel like he's cut. I feel like he's got to the root of the problem quicker than most leads do.

[Charity]

I disagree, because this man is. No, just Zach Shallcross. That man sent people packing. If they look like, I will say it. Definitely. He has, like, to a certain degree, like, yes, Dalton, he sent them packing eventually. But I think it has taken him. And not in a battle. I think he definitely is more practical about it. He's not, like, quick to, like, make a decision, which I do admire to a certain degree. But he has left some, I think, there for the plot a little bit longer, I think.

[Dotton]

So Drop some names. Who.

[Charity]

I'm not gonna do that. Watch the season.

[Joe]

Well, yeah, and I think Zach was, Zach was definitely the bachelor of like, oh, wait, you're there for the wrong reasons. You gotta go like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't play around. Okay, so right now we have, we have four women left. Zoe. Zoe, Lata, Juliana, and. And Dina. Are we surprised at all that he sent home Carolina and Seraphina? Because I actually, I really liked. I really like Seraphina. Oh, and Alex. But Alex got the first one on one, and then we kind of never saw her again.

[Charity]

I know. I hate it. I love, I love her. I love her.

[Dotton]

I say. Yeah. Alex was, I feel like is the most. One of the better, best choices, probably, like, from the little. We know, like, so, yeah, a little surprised. But.

[Joe]

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[Podcast Announcer]

New York, NY Chapter 18 Prince Lorian's voice gently wakes you from your dreams of him.

[West Prop]

I can't face one more sunset without you by my side. Come with me and I vow your desires will be my North Star forevermore.

[Podcast Announcer]

You're ready. You have Nexplanon etnogestrel implant 68mg Radiopeg to prevent pregnancy. Nexplanon is a non daily prescription birth control for women that goes in your arm and may take a few minutes to insert by your doctor. Don't use NexsPlanon if you're pregnant or may be pregnant, have or had blood clots or certain cancers, have liver disease, liver tumor or unexplained vaginal bleeding. Once the implant is placed, you and your doctor should feel for it. If at any time you can't feel the implant, contact your doctor right away and use a non hormonal birth control method such as condoms. Removal of the implant may be difficult or impossible if it isn't where it should be. While in common, ectopic pregnancy Pregnancy that occurs outside the womb can occur, which can cause serious internal bleeding, infertility and even death. You are likely to experience changes to your period. Ovarian cysts may occur and usually disappear. Nexplanon may raise the chance of serious blood clots, which can cause heart attack, stroke or death, especially if you smoke or have other risk factors. Nexplanon doesn't protect against HIV or STDs. With less than one pregnancy per 100 women who use Nexplanon for one year, Nexplanon is over 99% effective. No matter the fantasy, talk to your doctor, call 1-877-467-5266 or visit nexplanon.com for more information. Ask your doctor about nexplanon.

[West Prop]

All right, West West Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You already know our get down. If you grew up in our urban areas, a comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving feds taking over American cities Government hop out, boys hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place, the turfs and of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot and boy, did we pull up from the logo to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from the spot politics podcast to keep it a whole century in America.

[Charity]

What sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we.

[West Prop]

Treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the Hood Politics with Prop podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Podcast Announcer]

Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.

[Drew Phillips]

And I'm Drew Phillips.

[Podcast Announcer]

And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

[Drew Phillips]

If you're a crime junkie and you love crazy crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated adhd.

[Podcast Announcer]

Oh, my God, perfect.

[Drew Phillips]

And want to hear people with mental illness psycho babble.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yes, yes.

[Drew Phillips]

Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartradio app, search emergency Intercom and listen now.

[Podcast Announcer]

The super secret Bestie club podcast season four is here and we're locked in. That means more juicy cheeseme, terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex.

[Dotton]

No, no, we're not doing that this season.

[Podcast Announcer]

Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.

[Dotton]

Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it.

[Jeremy]

Get in here.

[Dotton]

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[Joe]

Okay, that's us.

[Charity]

What the heck?

[Dotton]

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[Dotton]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Joe]

Jeremy, how about you?

[Jeremy]

I. I'm actually not too surprised. I was not throwing Shad. I think Alex is great. Seraphina seems great. I think people were surprised at Zoe because she didn't have a one on one, but I'm. I believe in the momentum. So, like, I. I didn't think I was gonna necessarily get a one on one. I still thought I was going to hometowns.

[Charity]

So did you have a one on one before hometowns?

[Jeremy]

I got the last one. So, like, right into hometowns. Okay, but like, I wouldn't have been. Obviously I would have been upset if I didn't get it.

[Dotton]

But.

[Charity]

But would you have still been fine if Jim was like, okay, that's a different story.

[Dotton]

Yeah.

[Charity]

Okay, so that's where we see Grant is bringing Zoe home without a one on one. And I was like, I don't know if I personally could do it. I don't know if I could.

[Joe]

Yeah. Would you, Jeremy, Would you have done it?

[Jeremy]

Between you and me, we were. I was talking about that with producers. Like, I don't know if I would.

[Dotton]

Have, like, actually brought her home if.

[Jeremy]

I didn't get that one on one. Yeah, well, that didn't happen.

[Joe]

Jeremy, you. Not to rub it in, I don't think you really care. But you got sent home after your one on one, correct, or after your hometown? After your hometown.

[Jeremy]

Oh, yeah, sorry. After my hometown.

[Joe]

After your hometown news, or can you kind of just like. Yeah, like, kind of just run through that with us? Like, how did you. Were you expecting it after that or was it more of a letdown since she finally did meet your mom and everybody?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I mean, my hometown was interesting where I still think it went great. And obviously it might not have gotten the best reaction to the audience. Like, it. That was kind of like the scary one of the four. I actually was surprised I went home. I'm pretty confident, slightly delusional. Maybe my producers were too. I thought I was going all the way. The question in my head wasn't like, if I was getting sent home, it was like, would I be ready to propose?

[Charity]

Got it.

[Joe]

Really? Do you think you would have been ready?

[Jeremy]

I wasn't at that point. But, like, you know, the show moves in such weird speeds.

[Joe]

For sure.

[Charity]

Overnights can change a lot of things.

[Jeremy]

Oh, tell me more.

[Charity]

No, we're talking about it.

[Joe]

That. And how about your how about your hometown? How was that? Did that change anything for your relationship with Charity?

[Dotton]

I definitely, for sure. I mean, up until that point, it was like, I knew I was feeling it. But again, you don't know how that bubble kind of is affecting you. And, like, it's so easy to get delusional. And, you know, all the dates are perfect. So it was nice to get that external validation from my family, who honestly, sort of similar to, like, almost expecting sort of how I expected it to be with what's her name, the girl who's Dina, like, sort of expecting something like that because my parents, like, oh, they're not gonna play that. But the fact that they were, for one, like, so open and supportive, which was nice for, like, my personal relationship with them to know that. But then in terms of the show and Charity, like, they saw it. Like, they saw it. I didn't ask for them to look at it. I told them, hey, be as critical as you can be, because this is crazy to me. There's no way that I actually feel this way. And when they help me confirm that. So, yeah, it was huge. And then that was like, okay, all gas, no brakes. Let's. Let's ride this thing to the end.

[Charity]

So, yeah, I want to. I want to ask you, because you mentioned, like, Dina, and obviously, like, we see in. In the Hometown episode that her parents chose not to, like, come. So, like, she didn't have her parents, like, support, so it was just her friends. And, like, obviously, like, I. Like, it was no secret. Like, I. Obviously, you're the first person I said I was, like, falling in love with at Hometowns. But, like, if your parents hadn't have been there, do you think that that would have, like, change your outlook on, like, our relationship? And I guess I could answer that, too.

[Dotton]

No, I don't think so. I. Although I expected them to be more critical, I went into it also. I'm sort of stubborn in this way, but also feeling like I'm gonna do what I want to do. Like, you know, if my feelings are strong, then it's going to be okay and I'm going to move forward. And so, no, I. I wasn't going to let that be, like, you know, the total, like, the only thing I make way my decision on. But again, it was a. Just a huge added bonus to, like, have them there. And again, I was surprised. You know, I didn't think they would be that supportive, but they loved it and they were all super happy. And so, yeah, it. I would have still moved forward for sure. But yeah, just an added bonus and more. More weight to. To, I guess.

[Joe]

I guess that would be pretty rough if, like, you br. If you're at your hometowns and you're. You're about to leave and your parents are like, don't do it. Like, yeah, you're making a huge mistake. We hate it.

[Dotton]

Yeah.

[Charity]

That would have actually destroyed me. Like, I was like. I was so nervous, like, for his hometown. I was like, if, like, well, I thought we weren't gonna meet his parents, but then they showed up, and then I was like, okay. Now I'm like, it's actually, really, like, happening. I hope they like me. And if they don't, like, what does this mean? Because I was like, so, like, yeah.

[Joe]

What do you think that. What would have. What would have that done to you mentally if you left.in's hometown and he and the parents were like, nah, nah. Like, we vote. We vocalize that we don't like.

[Charity]

You see, that's the thing is, like, I mean, I'm very similar to Dot, and in this way, it's like, I probably would have been like, well, sorry.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Charity]

Yeah, I'm still gonna do what I want to do, and I obviously respect them, but, like, yeah, like, it would have hurt me. Like, I obviously would have wanted that, like, validation from them and just, like, that acceptance. But, like, I think it would have been different because, like, the problem was, is, like, not if they wouldn't have liked me. It was just like, am I going to meet them before proposal? Like, that's where we were, like, uncertain of. I think I have a little bit of confidence that I just do well with parents. Like, parents. Not to toot my own horn, but, like, I do.

[Joe]

Well, you are. You are, but that's okay.

[Charity]

Yeah. So I was not really worried that they weren't gonna like me, but just, like, if I was gonna meet them and have that opportunity to deck before. But luckily, all is well.

[West Prop]

So.

[Dotton]

Wait, Joe. Joe, what about you? I know, obviously, like, yours is. You didn't have a hometowns on Bachelor tv, but, like, what about you and Serena? Like, was that a concern or, like, were you nervous? Because you're tough for you. You got engaged on the beach, which is like.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a tough situation because, like, her parents didn't love. Obviously, they. And rightfully so, they didn't love the idea of her daughter getting engaged to someone that they never met. And that was. That was a. That was initially a tough hurdle, and I kind of. I knew that going in Like, I knew. Like, I understood where they were coming from. I wasn't. You know, I wasn't gonna be, like, well, too bad. Like, I get it. Like, it's. It's a. It's kind of a up situation, but I'm. I'm similar to Charity, where, like, parents, they eventually. They eventually, you know, they break down. They love me, too, so it worked. It worked out. How's your grandmother?

[Dotton]

Oh, she's great. I just saw her two days ago. She was the last person I saw before I. I flew back to New York. She's awesome. Yeah, she's doing good. Looking the same as when y' all saw her on tv. Thriving. Yeah, she's doing really good. Yeah. Yeah. You remember her? Is she. Is she a memorable person? Is that what she is?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Charity]

Yeah, that's. I think that's who everyone remembers.

[Dotton]

Crazy. Two seconds. Two seconds of screen time and, like.

[Charity]

More memorable than, said, the best bar in history. Bonded in heaven, period.

[Jeremy]

What you said.

[Charity]

You said, we're bonded in heaven in.

[Joe]

In.

[Dotton]

In Yoruba. Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Period. I know that. I know that's a native tongue. Thank you.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So, Jeremy, I. I. When I watched. I remember watching you on the show and watching Hometowns and you. And you. I'm a little shocked to hear that. You were like, oh, I thought, like, she was gonna choose me because I kind. I was like, you seem pretty realistic, and I just didn't think. I just didn't think you guys were there yet. Were you heartbroken? Were you heartbroken when you left?

[Charity]

Was the other hometowns?

[Jeremy]

What'd you say? Charity.

[Charity]

Sorry. Who was the. I'm trying to think who the other.

[Jeremy]

The final four were. Me, Devin, Marcus, and Jonathan.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Was I heartbroken? I'm not gonna say I was heartbroken. I was definitely a little sad.

[Dotton]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

But, yeah, I definitely understand, like, if you're watching that without going through, like, the experience, you'd be like, oh, yeah, Jeremy's definitely going. Obviously not that.

[Dotton]

I knew you were going home.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I'm sure you did. No, like, as a cast member, you don't know how the other interactions are, so you can only judge it based on yourself and.

[Charity]

Right.

[Jeremy]

I was pretty tunnel vision with it, so I actually did not think I was going home.

[Charity]

So I'm back.

[Jeremy]

I was like, okay.

[Charity]

Yeah, like, from audience perspective, it's like, what we see, like, but you're obviously living it. It's completely different. It went better than what was shown, is what you're saying.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it definitely went better than what was shown. But also at the same point, I'm not going to just gas myself up. Like I was not. Me and her were not at that point yet. Like I was not in love with her at that point and other guys that express that. So it all. It all worked out.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Once.

[Joe]

Once it was over, it was. Was it over or she. She's single. Did you like reach out after or anything like that or.

[Jeremy]

No, I don't think she's single. But now we. We.

[Joe]

Well, she was single for. She was. She was single for at least a couple days after.

[Dotton]

Joe think he slick.

[Charity]

He does.

[Dotton]

He trying to. He trying to get this podcast a million views, please.

[Charity]

He should, I think. I mean, we can give Jeremy a little bit of credit. I think he is a little bit of a gentleman and he would have probably waited if he wanted to reach out to Jen. But we. We all watched the finale. It was not good timing. It would have never been good timing. I don't think so. All is well.

[Jeremy]

Good timing for a dance part.

[Dotton]

Yeah, I was gonna say.

[Charity]

I'm out of the conversation now. I have nothing else to say.

[Joe]

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[West Prop]

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[Charity]

The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society, so what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you.

[West Prop]

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[Jeremy]

Hola.

[Honey German]

It's Honey German. And my podcast, Gracias. Come Again is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition.

[Joe]

No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned in, like, over 25 years.

[Honey German]

Oh, wow. That's a real G talk right there.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Honey German]

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[Dotton]

I won't say whitewashed, because at the.

[West Prop]

End of the day, you know, I'm me. Yeah, but the whole pretending and coat, you know, it takes a toll on you.

[Honey German]

Listen to the new season of Grass has come again as part of Michael Tura podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Joe]

Jeremy, you. You mentioned that you're not.

[Dotton]

You're.

[Joe]

You don't want to go to paradise. You're probably not going to the Paradise. There's a chance you're going to paradise. But you've also said that you've met some of Grant's girls. Can you tell us who you met?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I've met. I've met Alex. I met Beverly. I met Chloe, Seraphina.

[Joe]

Any, like, any spark flying with anyone, like.

[Jeremy]

No, this. This is just, like, friendly encounters. Like, first time meeting them. They're all good people.

[Joe]

But did you guys, like, say, like, hey, like, are. Are you going to paradise?

[Charity]

Are you thinking about paradise? Conversation exchange?

[Jeremy]

No, there was not.

[Joe]

Okay, so stepping away from the show for a minute, Charity and Dotton, you're in New York. Anything. Anything new upcoming? What are you doing?

[Charity]

Living life. It's really, like. I'm sorry, we don't have much to give I know, like, what everyone wants to hear, but we have just. We are not speaking out on that until we have everything solidified, until we are ready to, like, speak out and move forward with everything.

[Joe]

I was really just, like, curious if you guys were, like, going out to dinner this weekend. I wasn't like.

[Dotton]

That'S so.

[Charity]

Why.

[Dotton]

Why?

[Charity]

You just.

[Joe]

I don't know why you're coming at me.

[Dotton]

Like, coming at you.

[Charity]

I just, like. It's like, okay, what's the. What's the update? And, like, I always feel like that's the update. People are like, okay, what's next? And it's like, well, yes, we will be going out to dinner. Would you like to come, Joe?

[Joe]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would, actually. I would. Serena's been gone. Serena's been on a cruise, so I.

[Jeremy]

Live in New York, too.

[Joe]

Saturday. Yeah, but you're in LA right now, Jeremy.

[Jeremy]

I'll be back Monday. Give me a break.

[Joe]

All right.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Joe]

All right. We could all do. We could all go out this weekend coming up or next week on a cruise. Next weekend.

[Dotton]

Serena's on a cruise without you?

[Joe]

Yeah, she's on a cruise without me.

[Dotton]

You know what they say. That's what I'm saying.

[Charity]

I have a child.

[Joe]

Honestly. Honestly, like, I'm not worried about a guy that goes on a cruise. A single guy.

[Charity]

Exactly.

[Dotton]

Could be less concerned.

[Joe]

Jeremy. How about. How about you? When are you. You come back to New York? What do you got going on?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I wish I. I had, like, a huge life update, but, no, I'll be back in New York in a few days and chilling. It's cold. I'll probably be on my couch, go to whatever events I get invited to, and. Yeah, cool. Nothing crazy.

[Joe]

Wait, Charity, are you going to the women tell all? No. Right?

[Charity]

No, I will not be there.

[Joe]

But you are going to afr.

[Charity]

Listen, if the universe aligns, yes, I will be present. Front row.

[Dotton]

Okay.

[Joe]

Okay, how about predictions for Grant season? Who do you think he's going to end up with? Who's going to get their heart broken?

[Charity]

Okay, so right now, after hometowns, I think top two would easily be Latia and Juliana. I just. I had my thoughts on amazing, incredible girl, but I just don't see it with her and Grant. I am wanting more from Juliana in Grant's relationship, and right now, I think Latia is his strongest. His strongest, like, relationship. So I am very excited to see this all unfold. Yeah, it seems like things will get a little dicey, so I would love to be at afr.

[Joe]

Okay. I like that. I, I agree with you.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, guys. Yeah, I, I, I agree with Charity. I think that's the final two. I mean, I'd be shocked if it wasn't. I loved Latia's hometown with Grant. I think they have something special. I loved her little conversation with her grandpa and then her mom after she. She seems like a super quality girl, but I love to be at AFR too. Guys.

[Joe]

How about you?

[Charity]

I know, don't give us like some realistic answer. Come on.

[Dotton]

No, I'm gonna piggyback off what y' all said.

[Joe]

Really?

[Dotton]

I mean, yeah, I was surprised. Like, I was fully expecting actually a pretty bad hometown because of the whole Mormon things. But I forgot the Mormons are like the nicest people on Earth, so of course it went well. And they're like super sweet and. Yeah, she had a really, really sweet hometown. Dina. I feel bad for her. I feel so bad. No, truly, like, so sad. She was strong. She was a little ice queen. So I don't know. I don't know if they were, they were end game anyways. I'm trying to think who else? Who are the last two again? There's Julian. Yeah. I think Zoe was a potential. I see, I actually see a, like, I don't know, based on the little. I know, like some similarities between him and Zoe. And I think there's a lot of potential that. What? He hasn't taken out a one on one yet, so it's not, it's kind of untapped. But out of all the four, I feel like that's the one that he should definitely explore the most and, and that there's potential otherwise. Yeah, it's Lydia. So I see Lydia and Zoe. Oh, sorry, Latia.

[Joe]

That is true. That is true though. I forget, like, Mormons are like the nicest. I would have left that house, been like, I'm not Mormon, but like, you guys are so happy. I'm gonna be more. No, literally, you're doing, you're doing something right. Because this looks great.

[Dotton]

Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful family, giant house.

[Joe]

You know, everyone's smiling. Like, they're smiling the whole time. This is, this is fantastic.

[Dotton]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay, one more. If there, if there was going to be a Bachelorette season, who would you have liked to see as the lead from this season?

[Jeremy]

I think it depends on who wins or not.

[Dotton]

Like, I.

[Joe]

Well, let's, let's just, let's just figure. Yeah, let's just figure. Grant picks no one. Right. Like who?

[Jeremy]

Okay.

[Joe]

Out of everyone, would you like to see be the lead?

[Jeremy]

I, I Could see it being Latia.

[Dotton]

Yeah, Yeah, I agree. I would say not. Not Latia, actually. I would say. I mean, who do I want? Who I want, I guess would be Alex. I don't know. She seems chill, seems smart, cool, normal.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Alex too.

[Dotton]

I mean, yeah, I think Carolina would make for interesting tv. You know, if you're looking for that.

[Charity]

I feel like. And you said it. Alex is normal, but like her one liners this season delivered and I feel like that's a side that probably didn't have to come out as much or probably she wouldn't want. Has want to come out as much with like the girls, but like on a season of your own, it would inevitably come out. And I feel like she would have a great season. And also I would pick Latia if she.

[Dotton]

Yes, of course. Miss. Miss Build a bear workshop you. You love could have one liner.

[Charity]

Listen, Alex was chill. She kept her demeanor, but she also. She let it be known. And like, I respect that. Let it be known. Okay.

[Dotton]

Right, right. I see. I see her in you.

[Jeremy]

I see that.

[Joe]

I think. I think Alex would have had a messy season too, because I think a lot of guys. A lot of guys would have fell hard for her and it would have caused a lot of commotion in the house.

[Charity]

House, exactly.

[Joe]

That's what we need. That's what we need. But we're gonna need. We just gotta see now if Jeremy goes to paradise. You guys, thank you. Thank you so much for taking the time charity. You've been a great co host. You come back anytime. And to all our listeners listening to Bachelor happy hour, we really appreciate it. Make sure you subscribe, download. We'll have new interviews for you every week. Thank you.

[Jeremy]

Thanks, Joe.

[Dotton]

Later, y'.

[Jeremy]

All.

[West Prop]

All right, West West Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop podcast. You know, I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here mandering all over the place. Hop out boys. Snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein, we had to reach out to homie Jamel Hill because she gonna keep it a century.

[Charity]

The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you.

[West Prop]

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[Drew Phillips]

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[Joe]

Now, let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land Jeopardy truthers believe in? I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. They gave you the answers and you still blew it. The Puzzler listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Honey German]

On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic of Texas. She's holding down the fort for her party in one of the most conservative states in the union.

[Charity]

I think that ultimately who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves.

[Honey German]

To be punched and just say thank.

[Charity]

You like they will punch back.

[Honey German]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Joe]

Each week I, your host, Mandy Money.

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Gives you real talk, real advice with.

[Joe]

A heavy dose of I feel you, sis.

[Podcast Announcer]

Like on Fridays when I take your questions for the baqa, whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace.

[Joe]

I got you.

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Listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an iHeart podcast.