Charity’s 411 on Grant’s Hometowns!

Summary

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Bachelor Happy Hour – "Charity’s 411 on Grant’s Hometowns!"

Episode Date: March 4, 2025
Hosts: Joe Amabile & Charity Lawson
Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour (iHeartPodcasts & Warner Bros.)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, co-hosts Joe Amabile and Charity Lawson take listeners behind the scenes of the most recent "Bachelor" hometown dates—specifically those of current Bachelor, Grant. With Charity stepping in as special co-host, the duo dive into authentic, candid talk about each contestant’s hometown segment, dissecting Grant’s connections, energy, and the emotional beats of each visit. The conversation is lively, playful, and filled with real behind-the-scenes context.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Grant’s Vibe at Hometowns

• Low Energy Observed:

  • Joe and Charity note that Grant seemed especially exhausted or emotionally checked out during the hometowns, especially compared to the typical energy seen at this critical stage of the season.
    • Charity: “His energy was… I’m sorry, I love Grant, but I’m like, it was giving nothing.” (06:12)
    • Joe agrees, observing this “tired energy” at every single hometown.

• Impact of Casual/Familiar Environments:

  • The dynamic of large, boisterous family gatherings versus intimate meetings comes up repeatedly as a challenge for the lead’s energy and connection-building.

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Juliana’s Hometown – Newton, Massachusetts

Discussion starts: [05:09]

• Stereotypical Italian Family Setting:

  • Joe and Charity comment on classic Italian-American experiences: pizza, cannolis (both are unimpressed), and a huge family party.
    • Joe: “It’s really like your stereotypical Italian neighborhood—bada boom, the pizza… they got cannolis. I don’t like cannolis personally.” (06:21)

• Large, Intimidating Gathering:

  • Both were struck by the huge family presence.
    • Charity: “This is the biggest hometown I’ve seen in a minute. There were so many people in the backyard.” (07:36)

• Preference for Intimate Gatherings:

  • Charity would prefer smaller, more meaningful conversations over “small talk with 30+ people,” while Joe likes to be “thrown to the lions” for his first.
    • Charity: “Give me intimate any day. I'm good at small talk, but...that's so exhausting.” (08:24)

• Analysis of Grant & Juliana’s Connection:

  • Both hosts agree Grant and Juliana are compatible, but something is missing.
    • Charity: “They’re each other’s safe space, but I don’t know if it’s necessarily the good, safe space, if that makes sense. It’s like the safe route or the safe option.” (10:09)
    • Joe: “So you think they’re settling?” (10:21)

• Emotional Backstory:

  • Juliana’s past trauma is acknowledged, but Charity and Joe feel these “hurt in the past” stories are very common on the show.
    • Joe: “…I feel like every season we had something.” (12:44)

• Family Interactions:

  • Grant does a solid job with Juliana’s father, who plays the protective Italian dad role.
    • Charity: “He was very… transparent, especially about his feelings, which I really admire because that’s obviously parents’ number one question.” (13:36)

• Memorable Moment:

  • Grant shows his "lone wolf" tattoo to Juliana’s mom, prompting a Real Housewives comparison and laughter.
    • Charity: “Not the mom getting a glimpse of the lone wolf!” (19:36)

• Wrap-Up:

  • Both agree: Grant feels safe with Juliana, but doubts remain about long-term passion or certainty.

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Zoe’s Hometown – New York

Discussion starts: [20:43]

• Wedding Dress Photo Shoot:

  • Seen as a forced, "bad luck" move, since Zoe never got a one-on-one date.
    • Charity: “Bad luck. This is not good.” (21:09)

• Lack of One-on-One Bonding:

  • Both struggle to understand why Grant chose Zoe for hometowns over others he’d spent more time with.
    • Charity: “Going into hometown without a one on one date… I just don’t know.” (23:48)

• Zoe’s Family Dynamics:

  • Discussion on Zoe’s adopted background and estranged step-parents; a sister present for support.

• Key Conversation with Sister:

  • Joe picks up on Grant subtly signaling he’s unlikely to choose Zoe.
    • Joe: “He told the sister ‘I really like Zoe’ – that’s not ‘I’m falling in love with her’.” (25:10)
    • Charity agrees, noting the sister seemed “oddly at peace” about the likely outcome.

• Respect but Less of a Romantic Spark:

  • Charity summarizes: “She’s below that (Juliana), but like… Grant respects her. I like you, but I don’t think it’s gonna go… more than this.” (27:29)

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Latia’s Hometown – Wyoming (Mormon Country)

Discussion starts: [33:18]

• Late Revelation about Religion:

  • Debate over whether Latia should have disclosed her Mormon faith to Grant sooner.
    • Charity: “That is a little bit much to drop on him…” (33:44)

• Expectations Around Faith:

  • Joe notes Latia isn’t asking Grant to convert.
    • Charity: “She just was sharing… this is how I have been raised.” (34:56)

• Host Perspective on Faith’s Role:

  • Charity would consider religious disagreement a dealbreaker in her own life. (36:05)

• Another Huge Family Gathering:

  • Wyoming setting, “hundreds” of family members, and the Mormon tradition of making specialty sodas.
    • Charity: “I was like, soda’s a big deal?” (37:13)

• Grant’s Anxiety & Family’s Acceptance:

  • Grant is nervous, but Latia’s family assures him acceptance regardless of faith; this relaxes him considerably.
    • Charity: "I really admire them vocalizing… to him, it was really important." (37:51)

• Strongest Emotional Connection:

  • Both hosts peg Latia as the front-runner due to substantive, deep conversations and vulnerability—unlike Grant’s interactions with other women.
    • Joe: “He’s showing up to everybody else’s house half tired, and with Latia, he’s opening up his heart.” (39:35)
    • Charity: “This is a strong relationship.” (39:31)

• Potential Challenge:

  • Latia’s timeline for wanting kids soon is flagged as possibly new information for Grant.
    • Charity: “Her timeline of wanting to have kids, like, very, very soon… I could tell he was a little like, ‘okay, this is possibly new information.’” (41:21)

• Memorable Moment:

  • The infamous family tug-of-war; Joe jokes about refusing to participate if it were his own hometown.
    • Joe: “If this was my home… and we’re playing tug of war in the front… I’d be like, go yourself.” (41:58)

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Dina’s Hometown – Chicago

Discussion starts: [42:20]

• Parents Do Not Attend:

  • Both hosts are deeply sympathetic and frustrated at Dina’s lack of family support.
    • Charity: “I literally started crying for her…there was nothing that was positive about it besides her friends being there.” (42:36)

• Friends Step Up:

  • Grant feels most relaxed with Dina’s friends; there is zero romantic chemistry noted.
    • Charity: “It was more of the safe friendship, like the colleague relationship.” (45:04)
    • Joe: “I trust what you’re saying…more of like a friend zone.” (45:04)

• Elimination:

  • Dina is sent home in LA; she handles it with dignity and practicality.
    • Charity: “She just had a good outlook… it’s more like, empowering and just like…straight to the point.” (45:54)

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Final Three & Looking Ahead

Wrap-Up Discussion: [46:56]

• Ranking:

  • Latia is the clear front-runner for both hosts, followed by Juliana, with Zoe trailing.
    • Joe: “The front runner right now is Latia…then Juliana…then Zoe.” (47:16)

• Impact of Overnights:

  • Both agree overnight dates could still change everything.
    • Charity: “The conversations you have in overnights, if you’re doing them right—yes. A lot of things come to light.” (47:26)

• Observations on Season Pace:

  • The season felt faster and less substantive in parts, possibly due to more surface-level dates and a compressed timeline.
    • Charity: “I also feel like the length of the dates, or like, substance of the dates, it just didn’t have a whole lot.” (48:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Grant’s Fatigue:

  • “It was giving nothing…I was like, this poor man is probably exhausted.” – Charity (05:29)

• Large Family Hometown Parties:

  • “That is a nightmare…walking in, knowing you have to make your rounds to that many people.” – Charity (07:55)

• On Settling vs. True Match:

  • “They’re each other’s safe space, but I don’t know if it’s necessarily the good, safe space…” – Charity (10:09)

• About Faith Dealbreakers:

  • “If Danton was like, no, I don’t want to raise my kids with the Christian faith, would that have been a deal breaker for you?” – Joe
  • “100%.” – Charity (36:05)

• On Family Absence:

  • “Be there for your kid. Like, this is your kid. Like, be there.” – Joe (43:18)

• Charity on the Security/Intensity of Connections:

  • “I feel like the conversation–substance, the depth of it–it goes beyond surface level…this is a strong relationship.” (39:31)

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Important Timestamps

• Juliana’s Hometown: [05:09] – [20:43]
• Zoe’s Hometown: [20:43] – [33:18]
• Latia’s Hometown: [33:18] – [42:20]
• Dina’s Hometown: [42:20] – [46:56]
• Wrap-Up/Final Three Discussion: [46:56] – [49:13]

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

This episode is filled with humor, realness, compassion, and Bachelor Nation inside perspective. Joe and Charity bring a mix of tough love, empathetic insight, and the clarity of people who’ve been through the Bachelor process themselves. For fans, it’s a frank, useful summary of this season’s crucial hometowns and sets up plenty of interest for the unpredictable overnight dates.

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For those who missed the episode, this recap will give you everything you need: key turning points, emotional beats, and the real tea on which connections might go all the way.

Transcript

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[Joe]

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bach yout Happy Hour. I'm Joe, and I am here with a special co host today, Charity. Charity, welcome to Bet yout Happy Hour.

[Charity]

Thank you, Joe. This is crazy that we're co hosting together. Who would have ever thought.

[Joe]

I know, I know. Well, you've. You've probably been on this podcast more than anyone, I would think.

[Charity]

A little bit. Yeah. But have my. My fair turns of interviewing with you all. But this is a different. This is a different side. I'm excited.

[Joe]

I know you have to show up now. You really. Yeah, actually, that's not true. I would say there's probably. There's probably more pressure being the one that's being interviewed.

[Charity]

You think?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Charity]

I feel like I'm a loose cannon. So when I'm interviewing, I'm just like. Or being interviewed. I don't really care. I don't think too much. I don't feel like.

[Joe]

Yeah, but like, when I Could just, like, since I'm doing the interview, I could just badger you with questions if, like, somebody's, like, very, like, you know, they answer, you know, very quickly. I could just keep going with question. Well, I don't know.

[Charity]

It depends. It depends on the person. It really does.

[Joe]

I don't know what I'm saying. This is starting off rough. It's really starting off. Okay, let's. Let's get into it. So we have hometowns, and the first hometown is Juliana in Newton, Massachusetts. I will say Grant is giving me, like, I'm tired energy.

[Charity]

Okay. So I was. I thought it was just like. I was like, okay, this is the first, like, first hometown episode. What is my thoughts of Grant? But, like, I don't know. Like, his energy was. I'm sorry. I love Grant, but I'm like, it was giving nothing. I was like, okay, this poor man is probably exhausted, and, like, rightfully so. His season is going by truly so fast. So I could only, like. I think I was on the same, like, recording or filming schedule as him, maybe one week longer, but it's just like. I know at this point you were like, he's. He's be tired. So I saw it all over his face, his mannerisms, and I'm like, okay, is it just Juliana? But I think he was like that probably with everyone, which was like, okay, every.

[Joe]

Every single. Every single hometown. I was like, yeah, this guy. Either this guy's really exhausted, or he's just, like, completely checked out.

[Charity]

I hope not.

[Joe]

No. So we go. We go to a pizza place. It's really like your stereotypical Italian neighborhood being bada boom, you know, the fucking pizza. Come, let's make a pizza. Yeah, they went. They. They got cannolis. I don't like cannolis personally.

[Charity]

Never had. Well, actually, I've had one. I don't think I'm a fan either, to be honest.

[Joe]

What's your favorite dessert?

[Charity]

Italian dessert or in general?

[Joe]

Let's do Italian dessert.

[Charity]

Does she. Is cheesecake Italian, right?

[Joe]

No. Does it sound Italian cheesecake? Couldn't be more American cheesecake. That is what that. That cheesecake is. Is. Is America. That is what we would think.

[Charity]

I said that with the, like, is it cheesecake? I don't even know if I've had an Italian dessert. That's crazy. Don't.

[Joe]

Have you ever had tiramisu?

[Charity]

Yeah. It's not my favorite, though.

[Joe]

Okay, that's fair.

[Charity]

I'm pretty.

[Joe]

I like my. Mine's panna cotta. That's my favorite. It's Just like, heavy cream. Really?

[Charity]

Yeah. That would literally not do. That would do not wonders on my stomach, truly.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's. That's how Serena is too. Okay, so we go. We go to her hometown. We go to a family party. There's like a thousand people there.

[Charity]

I literally was like, this is the biggest. Like, I don't know, maybe because I'm used to just not that many people, at least when I was a lead. But, like, I was like, this is the biggest hometown I've seen in a minute. There was so many people in the backyard. I was like, this is crazy.

[Joe]

Like, poor Korean and Latias. I mean, we'll talk about Latia's hometown.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Joe]

But that also.

[Charity]

No. Insane. That's an. I'm sorry. As a lead, that is a nightmare. Like, walking in, knowing that you have to make your rounds to that many people. And keep in mind, we're. We just got through talking about how tired Grant is. He's probably like, okay, okay.

[Joe]

But here you were. You were a lead.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

For your first hometown ever. Would you. Would you rather walk into a big party like that or more of an intimate setting with just, like, the parents and a brother?

[Charity]

Intimate any day. Give me intimate.

[Joe]

Really?

[Charity]

It's like, I rather have, like, substantial, like, conversations, like, one on one, rather than like, like, I'm just not. I'm good at small talk, but I don't, like. It's not something I want to do with, like, 30 plus people. Not at all. Like, that's so exhausting. I'm so sorry. And I feel like people, at least for me, it's like once you have those conversations, like, over and over, people can kind of, like, pick up. Like, either you're, like, not feeling it, or you're just, like, trying to get it over with. And that's not how I want someone to, like, read me, if that makes sense.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I prefer the other way.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I prefer to be thrown in the lions. Then I want my first one to be insane, because of course you do that. Then I'll just feel good, like, and then I'll feel like. Like I know what I'm doing after. Because then everything will be easier. Yeah, but you think.

[Charity]

But it doesn't always go that way.

[Joe]

I would just. I don't know. I just. I. You know, I feel like talking to parents is just awkward in general. Like, that first meaning and then, like, having to do is setting where, like, you're dating other people and they know. And they know you're on a show, and they're like, is this even real? And you're like, I think I'm in love, but I don't know if I'm in love. It's like, what are we. What are we supposed to say here? What did you. How do you feel about this hometown in general?

[Charity]

Okay, so I, like, obviously, I think, like, Grant and Juliana are, like, compatible to a certain extent, but. But I feel like. And they're very. They are very cute together. So, like, I love them together. I just feel like, at least watching this episode or just, like, their relationship and how it's progressed up until this point, like, I feel like they're each other's, like, safe space, but I don't know if it's necessarily, like, the good, safe space, if that makes sense. I feel like it's, like, the safe route or the safe option. Like, I. They obviously have, like, disclosed the law.

[Joe]

Interesting. So you think. You think this is. They're like. This would be like a settle. Like, they're settling.

[Charity]

I don't like using that word because it sounds so bad when you say it out loud. Like, I'm so.

[Joe]

It does, but that's really what you're saying. That's what you're saying to say.

[Charity]

I think it's like. And, you know, we still have a couple weeks, so I'm like, maybe, like, the depth of it will progress, and I think that's just what I'm waiting for. Like, obviously, their. Their last one on one day was like, they. You know, Juliana shared, like, what she went through, like, as a child and growing up, like, things that were really impactful, and it really aligned, like, very similarly with Grant. And I thought that was like, okay, this is really great for them because they can definitely, like, resonate on that together. But to me, I still feel like I'm, like, I'm waiting for, like. I don't know, like, it's just a spark. You don't feel like, okay, it's like, it's cute, but I'm like, I want to feel like, okay, this is like, hubby, I don't know.

[Joe]

I will. I will say that was one thing we. We always, when we were watching the show, always said about you and Danton was There. Was. There was that initial spark there, and it progressed as the season went on. We were like, yeah, these two really love each other. Where I kind of agree. I feel like I think Grant really likes Juliana, and I think she really likes him.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But I think they really like each other.

[Charity]

No, it's. It's without liking. No, it's. They definitely like each other. I am not, like, discounting that at all.

[West Prop]

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[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. When you were. When you were talking to Dotton, I remember Serena and I were like, oh, Charity's, like, in love with this guy.

[Charity]

No, literally.

[Joe]

Yeah. But it could also be. It could also be both of their personalities, too. Right?

[Charity]

And that's the thing. Yeah. I'm like, I don't really know, like, well, what we see from Juliana, but, like, I mean, we've seen her in different roles, like, on the show already, so I'm like, she seems like she's someone who is, you know, bold and, like, has a personality. But I think, like, when she gets with Grant, she kind of, like. What's the word I'm looking for? Not, like, going a little bit of a shill. It's just, like, it becomes very, like, cutesy. I don't know. I. I sound really bad saying this, and I'm not like, I. They are so cute, and I like, they. I love them together, but I'm just like. Like, it's, like, very. Yeah.

[Joe]

Something's missing.

[Charity]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Basically, Juliana talks about, like, being hurt in her past, and I'm not trying to discredit that at all, but I feel like every season we had something.

[Charity]

I knew you're gonna say that.

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[Charity]

I was like. I watched her package, and I was like, yes, same story. I was like, me, too, girl.

[Joe]

Yeah. Well, everybody that goes out the Bachelor, for the most part, has been hurt in the past, or.

[Charity]

It's almost like it's a pre work. You cannot get on this show without being hurt.

[Joe]

So for sure. What did you think? The parents. I feel. I felt like the parents conversation was pretty solid, I think.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I feel like Grant knew how to talk to her father, and, like, they.

[Charity]

Were kind of really good job.

[Joe]

Yeah, they. They were kind of on the same page. I think he, like. Like, the Italian father really wanted. I feel like he knew, like, how to talk to him, and he did a really good job.

[Charity]

Yeah, it worked, definitely, like, yeah. Sat in that role like, 100. Like, he was, like, a little, like, you know, very much dad. But I think as a lead, I feel like it can sway either way with, like, obviously, the. The conversations with parents, and some people can get really intimidated and not answer those, like, in depth. But I think, granted, like, a phenomenal job, like, he was not backing out. I think he was very, like, transparent, especially about his feelings, which I really admire because that's obviously parents number one question coming in. It's like, have you said I love you yet? Like, where do you know, where does my daughter fall? Which I hate. I'm like, why are you asking to rank your daughter right now? Like, is she number one? Is she number two? But, like, it's a fair question. And from a parent standpoint, I get it. But he did really good. Yeah.

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[Charity]

Podcast called Emergency Intercom.

[Drew Phillips]

If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated adhd.

[Enya Umandzor]

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[Drew Phillips]

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[Charity]

Yes, yes.

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[Ed]

My name is Ed. Everyone say hello Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mum is a cousin. So like, it's not like, what do.

[Wisecrack Narrator]

You get When a true crime producer walks into a comedy club. I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.

[Ed]

I just normally do straight stand up, but this is a bit different.

[Wisecrack Narrator]

On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

[Ed]

On 22 July 2015, a 23 year old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house.

[Wisecrack Narrator]

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[Joe]

I liked when he was showing the mom his tattoo.

[Charity]

Okay, I literally wrote that. No, hold on.

[Joe]

She looks like a real housewife of.

[Charity]

Like New Jersey in my notes. Wait a minute. I said the lone wolf tattoo showing to the mom sent me like, I was like, not the mom getting a glimpse of the lone wolf. I was like, period.

[Joe]

Yeah, that was. I thought that was funny. I actually wrote that down too.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Joe]

And then, yeah, Grant at the end says he's falling for her. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I. I think, I think he is. I mean, it seems that way.

[Charity]

Yeah, I. I do too. I think. I do feel like there is. And I'll get in depth. I'll like wrap up my entire thoughts once we like talk about all of the hometowns and that way it'll make more sense. But like I said, I think I still stand by what I said. Of, like, it just seems safe. Like, it seems like, okay, like, he feels safe with her, she feels safe with him. But it's like, is it like full confirmation that this without a doubt is my person? And I feel like you might still have like a little bit of doubts with each other, but hopefully we'll see, like, you know, overnights. I mean, overnights could change that 1000% and we know. We truly do know.

[Joe]

Okay. Movie God to Zoe in New York.

[Charity]

Yeah, I have a soft spot for Zoe. I'm not gonna lie.

[Joe]

I like Zoe. I like Zoe. I thought I. I mean, it's a hometown, but like, also a date because they're like doing like, she's putting on wedding dresses. Like the wedding dress photo shoot thing I just thought was a little strange.

[Charity]

No, me too. I literally wrote. I was like, bad luck. This is not good.

[Joe]

Yeah, bad luck for sure. And it felt like. It felt like Zoe didn't get a one on one date. And they're like, okay, we're here's your one on one day.

[Charity]

No, literally, I was like, this is like a copy paste of, like, a previous, like, bachelor date that a group date would have happened or maybe even a one on one date in previous seasons. So they're like, okay, we'll use it for her hometown. Which I did like, that they emphasize and they focus on, like, what Zoe was, like, most comfortable with. And I did, like, that was, like, really nice to see. You can kind of see her stepping out of her, like, show. But I'm like, Zoe's never had a problem, like, stepping out of her show all season. Like, she's been fine. Like, girl has been standing on her own. She is quite independent. Like, she'll say what she needs to say. But I think just like, I could tell with Grant, like, he was definitely a little, like, timid with that date. And I don't know why, but I read. I'm. Listen, I'm a reader of body language. I was like, I don't know if brands really like messing with this date.

[Joe]

Well, I think. I think Grant. I think Grant. I don't know if he chooses Zoe, but I don't think he does. And I think he. I think.

[Charity]

Why do you say that? Just because. Okay, say it.

[Joe]

No, no, no. I just think. I. I don't. I just don't think he's picking her. I think I just. She didn't get a one on one date. And I think Carolina shot herself in the foot 1,000%. And it was like, I'll just take Zoe. I'll take Zoe over Carolina.

[Charity]

Not to like, like, that's what I'm saying. He also had Alex and Seraphina. So I'm like, he had options.

[Joe]

Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did have options. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. But I will say, like, the wedding dress, like, having to put on a wedding dress. I. Yeah, that's bad luck. I don't like that.

[Charity]

Yeah, no. And I could only imagine from his standpoint too, like, obviously taking someone or going into someone's hometown without a one on one date, which that was his choice. Like I said, like, obviously he sat there at the rose ceremony and he had to make a, like, a decision which I'm still to this day trying to figure out. Like, not in a bad way, because, like, Zoe's great and she also deserves, like, you know, her opportunity to, like, progress her relationship with Grant. But I'm in my head and just from what we've seen, it's like, okay, well, we had Alex or Seraphina. He also had one on one, one time with, like, how, how come they didn't get, like, chosen? And that makes, it's just a giant question mark in my head because going into hometown without a one on one date, like, I, I was in the same position last year. I was like, oh, it could be Tanner. But, like, I didn't, like, it just didn't work. And I was like, I'm not taking.

[Joe]

It could have never been Tanner.

[Charity]

It could have never been. But let's, let's be real. It could have never. But I was like, you know, I was trying to give everyone a chance and, like, it didn't happen. So I was like, you're not, like, it's just not going to work. You're not coming to hometown without a one. And so, like, to see Grant handle this, like, I, I, I just don't know. I feel like there was a lot of, like, uncertainty, like, a lot of, like, doubts.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I don't think you're wrong at all.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Zoe's step parents, she said she cut ties with them a year ago. She was adopted. But I have a question. Is her sister. Was there? Is that her real sister? Is that.

[Charity]

I want to say her real sister? I believe so.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Charity]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she mentioned it earlier on in the season.

[Joe]

So the, the one thing that really stuck out to me during this hometown was when Grant was talking to the sister.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Joe]

And I personally think he was essentially like, yeah, like, I'm not choosing. I'm not choosing.

[Charity]

Oh, wait, okay. Did I. Wait, I need to know. How did you pick up on that? Because I'm like, I'm looking at my notes and I'm like, okay. I said they were both holding back. Yeah. The parent conversation went well. But I don't, I didn't make any notes about the sister conversation. Wait, tell me.

[Joe]

Well, because he said he's falling for Juliana and he looked. I think he really respects Zoe and I think he really likes Zoe. And he emphasized, like, he told his sister, I really like Zoe.

[Charity]

That's a good catch because I, you.

[Joe]

Know, so, like, so I, and I think she read it as well, where she's kind of like, okay, yeah, I think he's just not going to choose my sister, but he respects her. And that's kind of, that's how I read it.

[Charity]

Interesting. Yeah. The sister seemed, she somewhat seemed oddly at peace after their conversation. I did get that vibe, but I don't think I, it registered to me that In a way that she like, had a way of knowing that her sister was going to be fine, but it wasn't going to be with him. I don't know. That's interesting.

[Joe]

Okay, watch it again. Watch it again.

[Charity]

I will have to go back. I'm like, not the emphasis on the really light. Okay, Grant, relax.

[Joe]

Overall, what'd you think about this hometown?

[Charity]

I thought it was good. I mean, it was. It was good. I think it, you know, I. I really do like how like, they emphasized, you know, a non traditional family, like, format. And like, Zoe's story really is like super special in my eyes. And I think she does, like, carry herself well and like her aunt said, just as a very resilient person. So you definitely see that. But yeah, like, I think it was definitely a little bit of like, not tension, but just like, okay, we are both going into this, like, really unknown because like you said, it's like they didn't have a one on one. They don't have like anything to kind of like come in with just singular time together, apart from like group dates or whatever else. But their little conversations, I guess leading up is why Grant said he like, chose her for hometown. So it makes sense. Like they share similarities to some extent. But yeah, I think it was a safe. It was a safe hometown. Again, I don't think it was like, it didn't really like. Oh, hit me.

[Joe]

Okay. So. Yeah, same. I agree. So you put Juliana and as like safe, like the relationships, like, safe kind of settling. Maybe. Maybe that spark, you're not seeing it yet. Where's Zoe?

[Charity]

She's below that, but like, so safe. Yeah, I'm trying not to use like incorrect words, but like, okay, Zoe's is like a step below. But like what you said. Grant respects her. So I think to that if you like look at safe in that sense of like, okay, I respect you. I have a lot of respect for you and I. I like you. But like, I don't think it's gonna go like, I don't know if it's anything more than this, you know?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, no, that's how I feel too.

[Charity]

I. I would feel like. Yeah, I think I would be really shocked, but I don't know what happened. So.

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[Enya Umandzor]

Hi, my name is Enya Umandzor.

[Drew Phillips]

And I'm Drew Phillips and we run.

[Charity]

A podcast called Emergency Intercom.

[Drew Phillips]

If you're crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated adhd.

[Enya Umandzor]

Oh my God, perfect.

[Drew Phillips]

And want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble.

[Charity]

Yes, yes.

[Drew Phillips]

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[Ed]

My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like, what do.

[Wisecrack Narrator]

You get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.

[Ed]

I just normally do straight stand up, but this is a bit different.

[Wisecrack Narrator]

On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

[Ed]

On 22 July 2015, a 23 year old man had killed his family and then he came to my house.

[Wisecrack Narrator]

So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand up comedy and murder take center stage. Available now listen to Wisecrack on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Joe]

Okay, so now we're going into Mormon country. No, no, no. Okay, so Leta is Mormon. Do you think she should have shared that information with Grant earlier? Because I feel like she just dropped that before hometowns.

[Charity]

Yeah, so the thing Is. Is like part of me wonders if it came up, like, maybe in like, a small conversation. But it was like, let's continue this later. You know how that happens. It's like, okay, like, I bring up something or you bring up something, and it's like, we don't have enough time to really, like, dive into this. But I want to save this for, like, a space where we are, like, alone. So I do wonder if it came up. Obviously, I don't know, but I do agree. I'm like, okay, that is a little bit much to like, drop on him. But I think she. They probably had like, a mutual understanding of just like, in her head at least. Like, Latia, like, knowing, okay, you take faith very serious. So, like, she probably thought not much about it if. If that makes sense. But I obviously now, like, I've been reading up on Mormon religion and I'm like, okay, I know I have never known Mormons like any Mormons growing up, so I didn't realize how intense of a religion it is. And all respect to it, but for Grant, who I don't think obviously is not Mormon, it could be a bit of a life adjustment. And I think when he.

[Joe]

Well, I guess. But I guess only if. If she, like, wanted him to convert to Mormonism, which I. Doesn't seem like she does. It doesn't seem like that.

[Charity]

Yeah. I'm like, did she even mention that? I don't think she did. She just like, I'm from, like, you know, I am of Mormon faith. I grew up Mormon religion. So it's like, I don't think she ever mentioned, like, I need this. Like, this is going to be a part of my life with you in it. I think she just was sharing, like, this is how I have been raised. And so I think that's like, a different lens that people should, like, consider because I think, like, obviously they're two grown adults. Like, she's going to make the best decision in him too, for their lives together. If. Yeah.

[Joe]

And she did mention when she wants her kids to grow up in the church. So that's also. That's also like his. Because he might be like, no, like, I don't want that. And that that could be a deal breaker.

[Charity]

Her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. So, yeah, it's. It's interesting, but I definitely do think that she could have or should have said it a little bit earlier.

[Joe]

Are you. Are you religious?

[Charity]

Yeah, I'm. I'm Christian. So.

[Joe]

Okay, you're Christian now? Is that now? It's none of my business. What. What you and Danton want to do. But, like, if. If Danton was like, no, I don't want to raise my kids with the Christian faith, would that have been a deal breaker for you?

[Charity]

You 100.

[Joe]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Charity]

Yeah. And the thing is, it's like, I'm like, I take, like, my relationship with. Or my faith, like, as a personal relationship with God. And, like, so does. So does Dawton, which is, like, where there is an alignment. Like, I try not to get too, like, caught up on just, like, you know, religion and, like, the code of all of that, because I think that's where a lot of people, like, it can get very tricky. But, like, ask me. I would talk about my relationship with God, I would talk about my faith, and that's where it is, and I planned to do that for my kids. So I think that's where, like, the alignment happens. But, yeah, like, it would be a deal breaker if he was like, absolutely not let my kids do that, you know?

[Joe]

Yeah, absolutely not. Okay, so we get. We go to Wyoming. Beautiful, beautiful house. Another. Another. Like, we're not. It's not intimate. There is a hundred people on the front lawn.

[Charity]

No, it's insane. I was like, what is this?

[Joe]

Yeah, it was. It was. It was wild. And they're doing, like, the Mormon thing where they make. They make the sodas. You know, that's a big thing.

[Charity]

Yes. I didn't even know. This is. I'm saying I'm reading up on a lot of things. I'm like, soda's a big deal.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grant. Grant was. He was definitely panicking. Pri. He would. This was the date. I thought he was the most nervous going into it seemed like, Absolutely, absolutely.

[Charity]

His energy was completely off that day.

[Joe]

But I thought. I mean, the family, like, they seem to be fully acceptant of him, and we're totally like, hey, like, we're Mormon. This is what we believe. You don't need to. To do that. We accept you either way, just as long as you're a man of faith.

[Charity]

Which I. I like. I think that was a point in the episode. I was like, I really do admire them vocalizing that and verbalizing that. To him, it was really important because I think in his mind, that, like, definitely lifted a weight off his shoulders. He probably was like, oh, my God, the whole time. But he's like, okay. And, like, you can even tell that, like, his interview after.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charity]

His energy definitely, like, it was a lot, like, looser and happier after having that conversation with the parents. And I really like, I love that. I just loved it. And her family is very sweet.

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[Joe]

Yeah. I mean, I would have walked in, I would have been like, all right, I guess I'm lying. I'll be a Mormon. Let's go. Let's go, people. But I really, I really, I really like Latia. I think she's got a great personality. I, I think they, to me, I feel like they're the strongest, like they have the strongest connection. I agree for sure. Right.

[Charity]

1,000%. And I say this because I'm like, this is in comparison to everyone else. I feel like the conversation, like substance, like the depth of it, it goes beyond surface level. And that is what I'm looking for as a viewer watching this. Of like, okay, how can I distinguish between who potentially is going to possibly be or become the fiance, the wife later down the road? And it's like, I feel like their conversations of what is shown at least is telling us, like, okay, this is like solid material. Like, this is a strong relationship.

[Joe]

Yeah, he really, like, opened up to her.

[Charity]

He cries. Like, I thought they cry every time they talk.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's showing up to everybody else's house half tired, and then with Latia, he's opening up his heart. So I'm just like, yeah, like this, this, this to me is a no brainer. And I, and I felt, I was like, okay, she dropped, you know, Mormon. I don't want to be like, oh, she dropped the Mormon bomb on them, but. Because it's not that big of a deal. But she essentially opened up about, about being Mormon. And I could sense like some hesitation, like Grant worrying if they were going to accept him or not. But then after the date, they were so good at being like, we fully accept you regardless. To me, I'm kind of like, oh, then how do you not like Latia is who you're choosing?

[Charity]

Exactly. And that's exactly how I feel. I will say. And I wanted to see if you clocked this when watching the episode when he sat down with. I don't know if it was Latia's mom or her stepdad when they were mentioning like her timeline of like, how quickly she wanted to have kids. Did you, did you meant, like, did you peep that? And I kind of. Yeah. So I, I made a note. I was like, they had a conversation to where, again, we don't know if Latia talked about it or, I don't know, maybe I missed it if she talked about this with Grant. But like, basically her timeline of wanting to have kids, like, very, very soon. And I wonder, like, two. And he didn't seem like it was, like, off putting, but I could tell he was, like, a little, like, okay, like, this is possibly new information in me. I could be wrong, but, like, seeing him take that in, I was like, oh, it was really interesting to have her parents kind of introduce that new concept to him about, like, where she was at in her life of, like, okay, she's gonna want to have kids, like, in the next year or two.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that could be. You know, the truth is, now that you mentioned that Grant hasn't really vocalized much about wanting to, like, start a family and have kids on this in this entire season. And I feel like the most leads usually talk about that.

[Charity]

Yeah, he says he wants a family, but, like, that's as. That's as much as we get. We don't go in specifics of, like, I want to be, like, I'm ready to have, like, be a dad like, soon. It's just like, I want a family. Okay. Okay.

[Joe]

I want a family in 15 years. That's what I want, a family. I also wrote down that they played tug of war. I just was, like, thinking that was crazy.

[Charity]

I was like, grant, please let go. Like, he, like, did not let go of the rope. And how he was getting track.

[Joe]

If this was my hope to. I had something. Dad, we're playing tug of war in the front. He would literally be like, go yourself. You think I'm getting up and playing tug of war, but, yeah, overall, I. I feel like this is the strongest couple.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. Okay, now. Now we go to Chicago. Dina. She says that her family's not going to be there, which her parents not being there. I hate. I. That. That really bothers me.

[Charity]

No, it. I started, like. I literally started crying for her and, like, also for Grant, but mainly for her, because you could tell that she was, like, slightly disappointed. I don't know if she knew that going into hometown that her parents weren't going to, like, show up or, like, be willing to participate, but, like, hearing her, like, the whole, like, the whole tone of the day was just. It was very, like, sad. It was just sad. There was nothing. I'm sorry. Like, gorgeous girl, beautiful, smart, all the above. But there was nothing that was, like, positive about it besides her friends being there and supporting her. It was really. It made me really sad because I was like, I just wonder, like, if it would have been different, if that makes sense, and I'm sure it would have.

[Joe]

Yeah. I'm sure it would have, but for. For me, it's like, I. I could totally get behind and understand you not even liking the show and being, like, somewhat against what the show is and what it represents. Right, fine. But, like, be there for your kid. Like, this is your kid. Like, like, be there. Like, to me, that's, like, that's showing more immaturity than what you think the show is.

[Charity]

Right, Right. Put all things aside, truly, because I'm.

[Joe]

Like, yeah, like, it's your kid.

[Charity]

Exactly. Like, I was like, oh. Like, I mean, literally same. Almost same. I was like, my. Like, we obviously just got through talking about my religion being of Christian faith. Like, we grew up in the church. Like, obviously none of this. The concept of this show is probably against everybody's religion. Like, no one's supposed to be dating 88 people at the same time. So, like, everyone loses. But, like, my parents would have never, like, just not. And, like, I just feel so much for her because I could tell, like, she was probably thinking in that moment, like, is this going to change the course of our relationship? Like, the whole day? And I wish she could have just probably enjoyed it. And she was obviously really happy to, like, we see her friends come and support her, but I don't know, like, I feel like in the back of her mind, she was always thinking about that.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. It was nice having her friends there. I. I actually thought Grant. That was the most relaxed. Grant seemed to.

[Charity]

To be okay. Well, yeah, probably because it was. No, like, it was nothing. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

So I'll hang out. I'll just hang out. Let's, like, do whatever.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Like, zero pressure. I don't think, like, I don't think. I don't think Q's picking Dina ever.

[Charity]

Really? Well, yeah, I don't really have. I mean, from what I saw, like, not a whole ton of chemistry.

[Joe]

No, it just seems more of a. It's more of the safe friendship, like the colleague relationship. Yeah, it's like the relations. Like, I trust, like, he trusted Dina. Like, when Dina said something about Carolina, he's like, okay, I trust what you're saying. So I think it was definitely more of like a friend zone. So I don't really think the parents being there was make or break, but I just think for her, like, it would have been nice to have that support.

[Charity]

100. 100. And like. Yeah, it just was really sad when I think, well, we'll get there when we go back to. Once we get back to la.

[Joe]

But, yeah, so, okay, so we're there. We go. Because we don't really have to talk more. Much more about this. Yeah, we go to. We go to la and he sends Dina home. And she was kind of like, yeah, like, makes sense. She.

[Charity]

She wasn't really very accepting. And I will applaud her on that because I was like. We didn't see a whole. I mean, like, it was sad, but we didn't see crocodile tears. It wasn't the dramatic. She was just very, like, practical about it, which I was like, yes, girl, absolutely. Like, you. You had your head in the right place this whole time. And the reality of it is, like, it's probably going to be very hard for anybody to, like, considering the basis of the show is, like, in two weeks you were getting engaged and you would want your parents blessing. That would probably also, if they chose to not come again, they would never, like, meet the guy that you're proposing or who's proposing to you. That's crazy. So I. I love that she just had a good outlook on that and it wasn't like a whole, like, super sad, sad moment for her. It's more like, empowering and just like. Okay, straight to the point.

[Joe]

Yeah. And she. She just comes up. She seems very intelligent and, like, pretty socially aware. And I think she just. I just think she knew. Like, I. I don't. Like, like, I think, like, if. If he sent Latia home, I think we all would have been, like, shocked, including her. It would have been like, what?

[Charity]

Would have been gagged.

[Joe]

Yeah. What the. But now, okay, so now we have. We have Latia, Zoe and Juliana. And to me, yeah, like, the front runner right now is Latia. And then I would. I would. I would put Juliana ahead of her and then. And then Zoe.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But I mean, overnights could change things.

[Charity]

Overnights can change a lot of things.

[Joe]

You think? So, like, overnight could change your decision, right?

[Charity]

It really can. I'm telling you, the conversations that you have in overnights, if you're doing them right. Yes. A lot of things. A lot of things come to light.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Or they don't. And then that's.

[Charity]

One or the other.

[Joe]

Yeah. But, yeah, yeah, I think. I think home or overnights could definitely change things. Overall, I think it was pretty. Pretty standard hometowns. I think this is the first time we got, like, two houses where we had, like, 85 family members there.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But, yeah, pretty pretty straightforward.

[Charity]

I was, like, shocked that the girls got to see, like, we did not get to see each other after hometown.

[Joe]

Oh, really?

[Charity]

Yeah, I was like, not them having, like, A Kumbaya moment and, like, sipping, like, whatever, like, at a bar. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, I love that they got to see each other. I would have really loved talking. But that's when I also knew that. I think Dina was like, yeah, it's not me, or it's not going to be me. Because the girls were sharing all their experiences of, like, how good their hometowns were. And then she was like, well, like, my parents didn't come. And then you can kind of see, like, Julianna's face. Like, it was like she almost saw a ghost. She was like, what? Like, I couldn't believe it. So I think she knew, and that that also broke my heart for her. But, yeah, it was a overall decent hometown.

[Joe]

It was a fast season. I. It really. I know they said it was shorter, but it really felt shorter.

[Charity]

No, it did. Like, I also feel like the length of the dates were just. Or, like, maybe like, again, substance of the dates, it just didn't have a whole lot. So, like, that's also, like, will make it feel a lot faster. So. God bless Grant. Truly.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, that is it for our recap. Anything else you want to say?

[Charity]

No, I'm excited for overnight overnight.

[Joe]

And thank you guys for tuning into Bachelor happy hour. Make sure you download and subscribe and stay tuned in for our next episode, because charity isn't going anywhere.

[West Prop]

All right, West. West Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know, I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here mandering all over the place. Hop out, boys. Snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jamel Hill. Cause she gonna keep it a century.

[Jamil Hill]

In America with sales and politics, our narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now.

[West Prop]

Listen to the Hood Politics with Prop podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Enya Umandzor]

Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.

[Drew Phillips]

And I'm Drew Phillips.

[Enya Umandzor]

And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

[Drew Phillips]

If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated adhd.

[Enya Umandzor]

Perfect.

[Drew Phillips]

And want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble.

[Charity]

Yes, yes.

[Drew Phillips]

Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartradio app. Search emergency intercom and listen.

[Joe]

Now, what would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on Earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charity]

On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic representative of Texas. She's holding down the fort for her party in one of the most conservative states in the union. I think that ultimately who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and.

[Jamil Hill]

Has shown that they won't allow themselves to be punched and just say thank you like they will punch back.

[Charity]

Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Mandy Money]

Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance bro trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No, thank you. Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week I your host, Mandy Money gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel you, sis. Like on Fridays when I take your questions for the baqa. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Charity]

This is an iHeart podcast.