Drama, Babies, and Icks | Golden Hour

Summary

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Bachelor Happy Hour: Drama, Babies, and Icks | Golden Hour

Date: February 28, 2025
Hosts: Susan & Kathy

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Episode Overview

In this lively edition of "Bachelor Happy Hour: Golden Hour," Susan and Kathy tackle the latest Bachelor episode drama, offer candid relationship advice, and play a hilariously honest round of "Icky or Picky." The conversation veers from franchise recaps to deep-dive advice for listeners navigating love, family, and personal boundaries—serving Bachelor Nation fans a mix of humor and heart.

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Breakdown of Key Segments

1. Recap: Latest Bachelor Episode Drama

(Starts ~05:13)

Highlights:

• Susan and Kathy discuss recent Bachelor developments set in Scotland, including standout dates, emotional connections, and the dramatic group dynamics.
• They break down contestant interactions, speculate about editing tricks, and dissect contestant motivations with frankness and warmth.

Key Quotes & Moments:

• On setting:
  • "Scotland? Really? Listen, you got to go to the Santa Monica Pier and have cotton candy." — Kathy (06:16)
• On contestant connections:
  • "When Grant first said Scotland... he's right. Scotland is this beautiful, misty, you know." — Kathy (06:16)
  • "Juliana really has good connection. But you know, I'm just wondering where it came from." — Kathy (07:44)
  • "They bonded over their families’ addiction issues. I love that." — Kathy (06:54)
• On group date drama:
  • "Carolina is painted to be...someone who seems to need a lot of attention and isn’t afraid to go after it. But I feel like there’s something we just aren’t seeing." — Kathy (09:30)
• On top contenders:
  • "I love Juliana. Hometown girl. But to me, it's coming down to those two." — Kathy (14:53)
• Contestant exit predictions:
  • Clear speculation about which contestants will be front-runners or go home this week.

2. Advice Segment: Listener Questions

(Starts ~18:09, after recaps and fan mail reminders)

Three main listener questions are tackled:

a. Deciding About Having Kids

• Issue: A couple is uncertain about children in their future.
• Advice:
  • Kathy: "If you love the guy and you agree on everything else... take the risk. But when the shoe drops—if it does—and you’re on opposite sides, that could be the end." (27:42)
  • Susan: "It's not the end, but you need a bigger conversation." (28:24)

b. Dealing With Parental Pressure to Have Kids

• Issue: A married listener and her husband want to remain childfree, but her parents won’t relent.
• Advice:
  • Kathy: "Put it in writing. Tell them it’s affecting your relationship and if they can’t accept it, you’ll see less of them." (31:17)
  • Susan: "Say, 'Mom, I feel guilty every time you say that to me... We don’t want children. It’s our choice.'" (32:13)
  • Both note that firm boundary-setting is necessary.

c. Being Taken Advantage of for Babysitting

• Issue: A recent grad is constantly asked to babysit her niece, missing out on her own life.
• Advice:
  • Susan: "You are absolutely right. You are living—that’s her baby. It’s not your job." (36:08)
  • Kathy: "This is about boundaries. Lily, you have to set the parameter. Gently, calmly, tell your sister, I can't do this three times a week." (37:41)
  • Both address how difficult (but necessary) it is to draw these lines with family.

3. Game Time: "Icky or Picky"

(Begins ~46:00)

Susan and Kathy read through a hilarious list of “icks”—quirky habits or traits that give daters pause—and debate whether each is a justifiable dealbreaker or just being overly picky.

Notable and Memorable Reactions:

• On ‘runs with a backpack’:
  • Susan: "It's picky." — (46:58)
• On ‘picky eater’:
  • Kathy: "That gives me the ick." — (47:10)
• On TV habits:
  • Kathy: "That’d be icky for me. I don’t watch it? You think it’s picky?" — (47:39)
• On ‘bad tipper’ or 'Instagram models' following list:
  • Kathy: "We just broke up. That's way beyond ick." — (51:01, 51:31)
• On vaping:
  • Susan: "I like watermelon ice. That’s not icky for me."
  • Kathy: "To me, I won't date a guy who vapes." — (50:05)
• On baby talk:
  • Kathy: "Maybe once to try to be funny, but..." — (52:41)
• On men who cry when they're in the wrong:
  • Susan: "I like a man that could cry. I really do. But when you call him out and he’s wrong, he cries?" — (53:34)
  • Kathy: "And you know why he’s crying, Susan? When you call him out, how bad? You slapped him. You slapped him so hard." — (53:39)

Meta-Commentary:

• Kathy and Susan add in an “Ew” category for behaviors that go beyond ick.
• They joke about their own dating lives, boundary-setting, and how being older (and, in their words, pickier) shapes what truly matters in a partner.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time | |---------------------------------------------|------------| | Welcomes & intro to episode | 04:11 | | Bachelor episode recap & Scotland dates | 05:13 | | Carolina & group dynamics discussion | 08:09 | | Latia & Grant’s connection | 11:09 | | Rose ceremony predictions | 14:53 | | Listener advice #1: Children dilemma | 26:20 | | Listener advice #2: Parental pressure | 30:33 | | Listener advice #3: Babysitting burnout | 35:00 | | Transition to “Icky or Picky” game | 46:00 | | Game: “Icky or Picky” | 46:55 | | Hosts reflect on their own dating lives | 54:18 | | Closing remarks & preview of next episode | 56:00 |

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Memorable Quotes

• “It’s not the end, but you need a bigger conversation.” — Susan, on couples debating children (28:24)
• “Anonymous, you might get together, you’re 27... you might be 34, 35, and really decide you don’t want children. That’s okay.” — Kathy (29:36)
• “Write them a note and say it is affecting your relationship.” — Kathy, to Marina about her parents (31:17)
• “If you want to be really cruel, buy your mother a puppy. Say, here’s something to keep you busy...” — Kathy, with Susan laughing (33:47)
• “You just hit on something really important. The mother might feel like a failure the moment.” — Susan (32:34)
• “This is about boundaries.” — Kathy, on family and babysitting expectations (37:41)
• “Set the boundaries, Lily. And hopefully this will help you to set boundaries in other parts of your life.” — Kathy (40:24)
• “Icky and picky and ew. We have to add ew.” — Susan, inventing new categories for dating red flags (54:00)
• "I want a man who knows how to make out…" — Susan, about her own dating bar (55:12)
• “Never say never. That's the title of this podcast.” — Kathy (56:00)

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Tone & Style

• Warm, irreverent, and empowering: Susan and Kathy speak with candor, wit, and the authority of experience. They blend humor with heartfelt life advice and never shy from potentially thorny questions.
• Direct but compassionate: Even when doling out tough love, the advice remains empathetic.
• Conversational: The interplay is full of banter and gentle ribbing, keeping listeners engaged while discussing serious life dilemmas.

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Summary

This episode of "Bachelor Happy Hour: Golden Hour" is a quintessential blend of Bachelor recap, real talk, and playful interaction. Susan and Kathy move seamlessly from dissecting show drama and contestant psychology to dispensing practical relationship and personal boundary advice. The “Icky or Picky” game closes the show on a laugh, as both hosts acknowledge how age, wisdom, and life experience have shaped their views on love and self-respect.

Perfect for:

• Fans wanting Bachelor episode recaps with behind-the-scenes insights.
• Listeners seeking relatable, no-nonsense advice on relationships, family, and boundaries.
• Anyone who loves hearing two friends keep it real about life's messy, hilarious, and sometimes icky moments.

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Transcript

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[Susan]

Welcome back, everybody, to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you so much for coming back and listening to Kathy and I.

[Kathy]

We are so ready to jump into another episode where we get to give advice and talk about our lives. And I. I'm sounding like a broken record, Susan, with this allergies, I can't. I just.

[Susan]

I'm telling you, week after week, I want you to take medicine.

[Kathy]

You know what I want to do? I want to go to Fiji and lie on a beach somewhere.

[Susan]

And, well, we can do that. We can do that.

[Kathy]

I mean, really, it's really bad. But all right, until I get on the beach, which I keep saying, you know, which we should be there in just a few weeks. Today, though, we're going to answer more of your fan questions. Make sure you're submitting all of your questions and comments to [e-mail] GoldenHour we love reading them. We love hearing from you. So please, please, please continue to do that.

[Susan]

Yes, send us Everything. Your questions, your updates, your comments. You can do it all. And you can also DM us on Instagram. BachelorHappyHour. Okay, time to get into the episode. Kathy, we gotta start with the latest Bachelor episode. Come on, now. What did you think?

[Kathy]

Okay, I gotta say this coming off the bat. When I first got married, I lived in Scotland. And so it was really hard for me to watch, especially since it was right on the anniversary of my husband's death. We lived in Scotland, first two years of our marriage. It is a beautiful country. I want to know why you and I haven't gotten to get, you know, go there on a show.

[Susan]

But maybe not. One of the things I said was, I am pissed. I mean, seriously, Scotland? Really?

[Kathy]

Listen, where do we go? Why are you complaining? You got to go to the Santa Monica Pier and have cotton candy. All right, let's talk when. When Grant first said Scotland. It's coming out of the romance books. He's right. Scotland is this beautiful misty, you know.

[Susan]

Beautiful Moors, the helicopter ride. Oh, my God. It was the best date ever. Dressed in royalty. She looked gorgeous. And then he put the pink necklace on her.

[Kathy]

The pink dress. Wait, I want to know. Does she get to keep that damn diamond necklace?

[Susan]

No. No. But did you notice how they shared really similar stories?

[Kathy]

That's what I was going to say.

[Susan]

I didn't know that. Gave me goosebumps.

[Kathy]

So was it so. I told you before. She comes from Newton, Mass. Where I come from, she is from my hometown, and my sister knew her uncle. So, like, I feel like she's family here. Juliana. Your family?

[Susan]

He had two.

[Kathy]

No, no, no. Somebody in her family had addiction issues, and he was saying that Grant's dad had addiction issues, so they bonded over that. I love that. But, Susan, did you wonder where their connection came from at all?

[Susan]

I like her. I like her a lot. She's very bubbly. Yeah, no, I didn't. I think they connected that night. I really do. But I also think he's telling everybody that he's connecting with them.

[Kathy]

Yeah, which makes it more disingenuous, right?

[Susan]

It's harder to believe trying to figure it out. Then we get to Carolina.

[Kathy]

Okay, wait, wait, wait. Did you love the dancers? They're called Highland Dancers. Like, I was watching the Bag Pipers, and let me just tell you how difficult it is to blow and get.

[Susan]

Salad when he did that.

[Kathy]

Grant, props to you. That is amazing. But here's the thing. The date was beautiful. Her pink dress was gorgeous. Juliana really has good connection. But, you know, I'm Just wondering where it came from. I just, you know, I just.

[Susan]

Maybe it's been there all along. They just haven't showed too much.

[Kathy]

Maybe it was the edit. Okay, so then we get Carolina on the group date and, you know, she's.

[Susan]

Pouty and then she gets blamed. But he did ask her when Dina was saying, you took him away today, too, and ruined all of our time.

[Kathy]

She had a space. But you know what? She. I don't know if anyone picked up on it, but when she said, you know, he's all the girls, I found this interesting. And it's typical, I think, of younger women. All the girls were talking about how they thought that they were having this romantic conversation. In other words, they thought it was all going positive, when in fact their conversation together was not warm fuzzy. It was, what's wrong? What are you thinking? And she was saying she wasn't sure she's ready. They all thought that that conversation was about love and them being in love. And really they didn't have a connection. They both were saying, this is really hard. I just found that interesting that the girls jumped to the assumption.

[Susan]

Yeah, that they did, but you could tell but her by her face the whole time. She was not involved. She was not being a team player. It was a group date. And it was the smallest group date that they had so far. And she was not being a team player. I. When Zoe finally got to talk to him and made her feel better. Yeah, I mean, that was really cool, too. And she did get a rose.

[Kathy]

I know, but here's the thing. I think that I can't help but believe there's more going on than what we see. Because Carolina is painted to be. And maybe she is. You know, we know how edits go. Zip it. She is someone who seems to need a lot of attention and isn't afraid to go after it. But I feel like there's something that we just aren't seeing. There's something that just doesn't seem right to me.

[Susan]

I don't know, I just feel like she could be moody, you know, and she did take some, if you will, in the beginning on the show with all the girls on the couch. And again last night, they didn't gang up, but. And then what was it? Serafina and said, it's over. It's just.

[Kathy]

We're not talking about it, we're just not cold.

[Susan]

I was imagining me sitting there hearing that.

[Kathy]

Yeah. I felt again, though, I feel like Susan, you're right. I thought that was cold and a bit harsh. But on the other hand, we don't know what was going on prior to. We just don't know. And that's what's hard for me on this show. I feel like it's a little disjointed. How are we getting to where we're getting? But let's try talk about.

[Susan]

How about the Drake? Did you know the Drake Day? That's what they call it.

[Kathy]

I gotta be honest, I've never heard of it. Never heard of it. I don't live there. Tears. But I was very proud. May I say if you go, if just little point of factor. If you go to Edinburgh and you say Edinburgh, you will be stoned. And they all knew that it was Edinburgh. So I gave them great props for that.

[Susan]

I loved how Latia and Grant tied the infinity. Now I like them together. They were, they were really easy.

[Kathy]

They seem to have a natural connection.

[Susan]

Yeah, they did.

[Kathy]

They, they. She is a nurturing spirit. I think he likes that.

[Susan]

And how about him saying how he eats? He ate alone and you know, she was wiping his tear. That was just so beautiful.

[Kathy]

Susan, did you. I don't, I don't know, but tell me. I was going to ask about that. Does Grant. I feel like that's the only time he cried on one. On one.

[Susan]

I believe so.

[Kathy]

And that makes me think as much as I love my hometown girl, I feel like he's got this very strong connection with Letia that I'm not seeing with the other girls. But it's, you know, the look, it's.

[Susan]

The moment, it's what they're talking about that brings, you know.

[Kathy]

Yeah. Now her Mormon faith and the fact that she hasn't brought home men and that she's only dated, has never dated outside of her faith. I think that could be really tricky. I really do. I mean you and I joke about, you know, you're full blooded Italian, we'll.

[Susan]

See you on hometowns. That's where it's gonna happen.

[Kathy]

We'll see how that goes. I think that could be Kathy.

[Susan]

What did you think of Carolina taking Dina upstairs towards right before the rose ceremony happened and did the hugging and the cause. Dina was on her side in the beginning and then she turned when she saw things that she wasn't seeing. Remember she used to stick up for her. Yes. I was glad that they kind of made up.

[Kathy]

I mean, I feel like, you know, I have to be honest, I feel like maybe there might have been some pressure to see what, what happened when they went upstairs again. To me, I'm struggling Because it seemed a little bit like, why is she doing that at the. You know, they're standing for the. You and I stood for a rose ceremony.

[Susan]

I know. I know. You don't. You know, I thought she really wanted to clear the air because she knew Deena had her back for so long, and she.

[Kathy]

Or she knew she was going home and she wanted to leave on Aino. How would she know? I think she felt it. Maybe she said when she said to Grant, they're sitting on that rock. When she said, you know, I don't. I can't remember exact words, but, you know, I'm just not sure about all this. I saw a change in his face. Like, you're not sure it's over. Like, so I kind of feel like she had the sense she was going home. And I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't think she's as bad as what they paint her out to be, but I'm. Again, I just kind of question.

[Susan]

There's a drama on any. Every show. Every show, it just so happened to be hers.

[Kathy]

Her. But I wanted to say one more thing. That Grant, when he cried, he was saying he wanted family and a family who would love him and have dinners together. And she said, that's exactly what I want. And he said he felt like she was a safe place. And I think as good looking and all the things that he has. I do think that he has some insecurities. And I feel like with Letia, he doesn't. He doesn't.

[Susan]

He was sharing how much he wants.

[Kathy]

A family, and he's been sharing that since night.

[Susan]

One deep, deep conversation they were having. I didn't see him go that deep. Like he listened to other girls, things, issues, wishes, you know? But this one was pretty deep. I liked it. But I still love our Juliana.

[Kathy]

Oh, I love Juliana. I told you. Hometown girl. But to me, it's coming down to those two. I don't know. I feel like it's gonna be between those two, and that's why I'm really anxious to see. I love the preview about Juliana's father. Like, I'm Italian, I thought, oh, I.

[Susan]

Got nervous when I saw that.

[Kathy]

Gabby, I want to go. I thought, oh, my God, the baseball bat. The baseball bat's coming back out.

[Susan]

You think that scared him? Do you think it scares them?

[Kathy]

I think it would scare the hell out of me. Let's talk about who went home. It leaves us with Carolina. Adios. And Serafina and Alex. I felt sorry for them, you know, he sounded like he had a connection with them.

[Susan]

And again, you have to get it down, though. You have to.

[Kathy]

I know, but what we saw, for me, was a disconnect. What we saw was him having this great conversation, not so much with Alex recently, but definitely with Seraphina. And so I was like, wow. You know, I mean, I'm. I don't. Do you see the big connection with Dina? I don't.

[Susan]

I liked her from the start. I think she's impressed by who she is, how she carries herself. She's intelligent. I think he likes the professionalism in.

[Kathy]

Her, but I don't see the passion.

[Susan]

I don't see. I don't feel the passion. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kathy]

Maybe I am just jaded now, you know, Maybe that's what the deal is, because I feel like he's told. First of all, I think Grant, but he's told everyone I love, you know, I want. I can see you having a family with you. I could see having a. What? You being my wife. I could see us having a family together, eating dinner together. So I'm sitting there, like. I feel like we're playing Russian roulette here or darts. You know, let's just throw one and see where it lands, you know?

[Susan]

What about on our show? We didn't know what was happening with the other women and Gary at the same time. You know, we only knew our moments. You know what I mean?

[Kathy]

Well, I knew. I knew moments.

[Susan]

Because I watched. Yep. I look forward to see what happens.

[Kathy]

I can't. I'm just. So wait. Do you want to vote? Who do you think it's going to be? The. Fine. Who do you think is going to win?

[Susan]

Oh, who. Oh, I can't say it.

[Kathy]

Who. Who's the other. It's. Wait, who. Who's the fourth? We've got Latia. We have Juliana. We have Dina. Who's the fourth? Zoe. Zoe is the fourth. And I haven't really seen a great connection with Zoey either.

[Susan]

I think they're comfortable, too.

[Kathy]

Yeah, well, comfortable. So if you had to go out on a limb. Who are you going with? Are you going with Juliana?

[Susan]

I like it to be Juliana, but I think the other night when they. Yeah. Gosh, I don't know, Kev.

[Kathy]

Well, I would have, but I want to be at the parade in Newton, Massachusetts, when. If Juliana's the one, I want to. You know, I want to have the Golden Bachelor parade with the, you know, gorgeous new young one. But I kind of feel like Latia. They have a more. A bigger connection, but we'll see. You know. All right. Well, this is fun. We can't wait for next week. Now, you ready, Susan? Let's get into the Question of the day.

[Susan]

Here we go.

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[Susan]

Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.

[Curly]

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[Kathy]

Get in here.

[Curly]

Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people.

[Susan]

The diva of the people.

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[Kathy]

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[Curly]

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[Curly]

In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets.

[Kathy]

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[Susan]

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[Kathy]

What's one piece of advice you'd give someone before they lose their virginity? Susan, to. To me, this is so simple. So simple. Be sober.

[Susan]

Good point, good point.

[Kathy]

It might be somebody you don't ever want to wake up next to again. It may be a guy. Maybe just a thrill. Maybe just be fun. You just maybe wanted to get laid. Yes, I said that. But that's all okay, as long as you do it with your full faculties. You got to be sober. Don't be high. Don't. Don't be drunk.

[Susan]

And not only that, make sure you're safe and make sure you're in the right environment and that it really has meaning for you. I'm sure you're not losing your virginity. Just. But lose your virginity?

[Kathy]

Oh, no, I think seriously. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Susan]

Well, you're asking me my advice. That.

[Kathy]

But to young people. You think young people only have sex with people that they want a serious relationship with?

[Susan]

I hope everybody thinks that.

[Kathy]

Susan, honey, all. What do you want from me? I mean it. Also, you gotta. You know, you gotta protect yourself. You have to use condoms. You know what I mean?

[Susan]

Protect yourself. Be safe.

[Kathy]

Well, now, here's the thing. There's other, you know, there's other ways. I want any guy I'm sleeping with if I don't know him well. I want him to come with a lab report. I want his blood test.

[Susan]

That was last week.

[Kathy]

Now, I have a funny story about that, but it's not for. It's not for public consumption.

[Susan]

Okay, so we're going to get right into the fan questions.

[Kathy]

Yeah, let's get away from virginity. Who even remembers what that's like? Like.

[Susan]

I'll read the first one. Kath. It's from Anonymous.

[Kathy]

Okay, go, go, go.

[Susan]

Hi, Kathy and Susan, I really need your help. I've been with my boyfriend for a couple of years now, and the other night, he unexpectedly sprang a big conversation on me. He was talking about our future with shared finances, where we might want to live, et cetera. They're all things we should be talking about. I just wasn't prepared to have that conversation. Anyways, he told me that he wants to have children. And I was really shocked. I always knew he was more open to it than I was, but I didn't expect him to want kids as much as he does. He says he's flexible and emphasizes that he's not totally sure. Here's my problem. I have the same feelings about my desire to be child free. I can see that changing down the line, but as of right now, I'm really leaning towards no. Is this the end for us? I'm 27 and he's 28. And we both agree marriage and anything kid related will be saved for our 30s. Thanks, ladies.

[Kathy]

To me, this is. It's an easy answer. Yeah, but wait a minute.

[Susan]

Did you see her at the beginning? She was so shocked. Like, isn't that what couples talk about? That's a good thing. They're communicating.

[Kathy]

Well, it is a good thing. I think she just. Maybe two years in, everyone's got a different timeline. Maybe she just felt like we're still having fun. She's 27. Maybe she's in her mind thinking mid-30s is when she's gonna move in. Who knows? Who cares, really? The fact is neither one of them is dead set on having kids. This happens. Can I tell you how many? Not how many, but I know at least three children's friends who ended up divorced. Because it read just like this letter. I'm not sure. He's not sure, but we love each other, we have the same goals, we wanna travel, we wanna do this, but we're not sure about kids. And inevitably, one or the other came out, they wanted kids, and the other one came out definitely not wanting kids. And it was a deal breaker in their marriage. So anonymous.

[Susan]

But she's saying.

[Kathy]

He's saying it's a risk.

[Susan]

He's flexible.

[Kathy]

Yeah, right now he is, but he's leaning towards them, she's leaning against them.

[Susan]

She's not sure either. But she sounds like maybe down the line. But right now she's not ready.

[Kathy]

So my answer, my advice is if you love the guy and you agree on everything else or many other things, then take the risk. You know, move in, have the conversation about finances, do all those things. And then when the shoe drops, and that is, you come to him and say, honey, I've decided I never want children. And he says, that's a problem. Cause I've decided, I really do, that's probably gonna be the end of your marriage, in my opinion. It could be because resentment will grow on both sides of the table.

[Susan]

But I don't think that conversation is the end for you. That's what she's asking. No, it's not the end, but it's.

[Kathy]

You both have.

[Susan]

What it is, is you need a bigger conversation.

[Kathy]

Yeah. The bigger conversation is, are you willing to take the risk because we may end up on opposite sides of the table and it. Excuse me.

[Susan]

But then, Kathy, don't you feel a little pressured if we're saying this? She might feel pressured, like, okay, what day am I going to feel like I know the answer to that? You don't know.

[Kathy]

Well, but the friends that I had, their kids, the ones I only know of, one of my friend's kids who was on the fence and decided they wanted kids, if they were leaning to not having them, the ones that were leaning towards not having them once they were married, they definitely decided they didn't want them.

[Susan]

Yeah, I have friends with no kids. I mean, it's. I know a lot of people with no kids, but when one wants and the other doesn't, that is a problem.

[Kathy]

It's. You know what? I hate to say it, but it's like, can you get over that? It's like if a spouse cheats on another spouse or a partner cheats, you know, you gotta. You have to decide either it's gonna be a deal breaker or it isn't. Because it could go either way.

[Susan]

Yeah, it could. And you don't want to resent the person that doesn't want to have the children when you did, you know?

[Kathy]

Well, you will if you want children and your partner says no. And here's the thing, Anonymous. You might get together. You're 27. You might be 34, 35, and really decide you don't want children. That's okay.

[Susan]

But then he might think it's too late for him or something, or he.

[Kathy]

Might decide he really wants kids. So now, you know, you end up splitting ways. You gotta start over, you know?

[Susan]

It's a possibility.

[Kathy]

Yeah, it's a possibility. I guess what I would say to you is, accept the risk if you love the guy. If you love the risk.

[Susan]

Yeah, exactly. It's a risk. We wish you luck, though.

[Kathy]

Let us know if you get pregnant, if you get married, if you move in. And by the way, when you're doing up the chore list, make sure he is doing the laundry and the vacuuming. And if you need a good idea for a Christmas gift, buy him a vacuum. All right, question number two. Marina writes.

[Susan]

Hi, ladies.

[Kathy]

Hi, Marina. Hi, ladies. I'm really frustrated, and I feel like you guys could be a Big help right now. I'm 32 and I've been married to my husband for three years. Ever since we got engaged, my parents have been hounding me on when I'm having children. My husband and I have always wanted to be child free and that hasn't changed for either of us. Well, they need to reach out and talk to Anonymous. Okay. I've tried telling them so many times. I've tried the sit down, sensitive conversation. I've snapped a few times. You name it, I've tried it. But I'm at a loss. They still are confident I'm going to change my mind. What do I do to get through to them that I'm not having kids? It's making me crazy and I need them to can it. In other words, you know what? They need to zip it. Susan, thank you. I love you two so much. Here's what you do, Marina. Put a note in. Write them a note because they clearly aren't listening to you in person. Write them a note and say it is affecting your relationship. If they want to continue seeing you and your spouse, partner, whatever, then they're going to accept that you're never going to have children. You're not adopting, you're not getting a cat, you're not getting a dog, you're not getting a pet hamster, and you're not having a baby. And if you don't want to accept that, you're not gonna see very much of us. I think it's time to lay down the bar here. She said she's tried everything. What do you think?

[Susan]

I agree with the fact that you have to sit your parents down. And I.

[Kathy]

She did. She has sat him down.

[Susan]

I know I'd sugarcoat it a little more and say, mom, like you said, it will affect our relationship. Because I feel guilty every time you say that to me. Why don't you understand? We don't want children. We? My husband and I. It's our choice.

[Kathy]

You know what, Susan? You just.

[Susan]

Their choice.

[Kathy]

You just hit on something really important. I don't think the other thing that could be is that the mother feels like in some way she's failed. Because why, you know, why wouldn't my child. I birthed. I had my child.

[Susan]

Why wouldn't you have children?

[Kathy]

That's what I'm saying. So she might feel like a failure the moment.

[Susan]

Why would she feel like a failure if her daughter didn't have. She wants grandchildren. I get it.

[Kathy]

That's what I'm saying. Like I failed some way that my daughter but you know what I would say to.

[Susan]

She said she's tried everything.

[Kathy]

I know. So write her a note and tell her.

[Susan]

She's telling them.

[Kathy]

Yep. Write her a note, Marina. Write her a note.

[Susan]

This time, just say it's gonna come between us. You're making it hard. You're making it to the point where we don't want to spend time with you because that's all. All you talk about.

[Kathy]

That's what I said.

[Susan]

My husband and I are making this choice, Mom. I'm sorry to disappoint you. And, God, I hope she has other children, that maybe they'll give her grandchildren. But, yeah, you got to just keep trying.

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[Susan]

Or on another note, I dare say this. God. Yeah, mom, we're trying. Just not happening.

[Kathy]

Oh, shut her up, Susan. That's a lie.

[Susan]

No, I know.

[Kathy]

Then it's going to be one. You do ivf. Why don't you do this? We're not adopting. We're not getting a hamster. We're not. Or if you want to be really cruel, Marina, buy your mother a puppy. Say, here's something to keep you a busy mach.

[Susan]

You just have to share with them that it's your husband and your life. You're not bringing children into it. I'm sorry, Mom. Move on.

[Kathy]

I'll tell you, my. My daughter, they talk about whether they're gonna have a second child or not. I don't weigh in. I say whatever you want to do. Yeah.

[Susan]

Yeah. It's their life.

[Kathy]

It's their life.

[Susan]

Their life. But good luck, sweetie. And that's a tough one.

[Kathy]

It is.

[Susan]

Because it is your mom. I know you love her, but. Yeah.

[Kathy]

Susan, are you all trying. Wait, Are you at all. No, do not try, Marina. Do not try. No.

[Susan]

Keep on trying to tell your mother.

[Kathy]

I know. I was making a joke.

[Susan]

Okay.

[Kathy]

Susan, do you love it? Wait. Do you love it that we agree on so many things?

[Susan]

Sometimes I'm shocked sometimes, but yes. Yes. I love it when you see it my way.

[Kathy]

I love it when you show good thinking skills and reasoning skills. Which means you agree with me. Carry on. Go.

[Susan]

Okay. Lily. Hi, Susan and Kathy. I'm such a huge fan of the pod, and I was hoping you could help me out with something. I graduated from college about seven months ago and. And got a remote job right out of school. Right around the time I started my job, my older sister gave birth to her first kid. I love my niece so much, but I literally cannot babysit anymore. My sister asks me all the time. I've been watching my Niece. Three times a week for the past five months.

[Kathy]

I need her phone number. Wait.

[Susan]

Sick of it.

[Kathy]

I need her phone number. My daughter needs a babysitter, okay?

[Susan]

I'm missing out on time with my friends, time with my boyfriend, and I'm honestly exhausted after working all day. My mom snapped at me when I tried to open up to her about it and told me I was being lazy, unreasonable. My sister can afford a nanny, but she doesn't want one because she doesn't want to spend the money if she has a free sitter.

[Kathy]

Me.

[Susan]

Lol. Am I being unreasonable? How do I talk to her about this? Love, you guys. Oh, my God. Can I say something? You are absolutely right. You are living. That's her baby. And you know what I'd say? If it's an emergency or once in a while, you want to go out with your husband, I'll do it, but I cannot do it three times a week.

[Kathy]

Can I tell you, I agree with you, but, you know, it's a bigger issue here, and I think families sometimes struggle with this. It's called boundaries.

[Susan]

And how about the mother getting on her? You watch her, then.

[Kathy]

But that's what's telling me there's a boundary issue in this family, because Lily is not able to set boundaries with her older sister or her mother, nor her mother. And the mother is not setting appropriate boundaries with what she says to Lily. So the issue here is Lily. You know, we all want. A lot of our questions have the similar theme in that they're looking for a magic pill. You know, a magic thing. Susan and Kathy, what could you tell us that would magically. Lily, this is not gonna be an easy conversation, but it's a conversation that needs to be had. You need to gently and quietly and calmly tell your sister exactly what Susan said. It's unreasonable for you to ask me. I have a life. This is your child. You need to raise your child in an emergency. Yada, yada, yada, everything.

[Susan]

Or give her one specific day a week that you're willing to come babysit. Other than that, I can't because I'm falling.

[Kathy]

Whatever it is. But my point is, you, Lily, have to set the boundary. You have to set the parameter, because your sister has already shown you that. That she will take whatever you're willing to give and then some.

[Susan]

But how about the mother, Kathy? I mean, look at what the mother said. You were lazy, unreasonable. How come the mother. The grandmother's not babysitting?

[Kathy]

To me, that's a red herring. It's superfluous. To the conversation. I don't care. They just need.

[Susan]

And it's a sin because they're gonna get mad at her over this. I feel your pain. I really do, Lily, but. But you have to set your foot down or charge her. Okay? Then you're going to have to pay me if I have to do this three times.

[Kathy]

I don't think it's the money. I don't think it's the money. She said she's missing out with time with her boyfriend and her friends.

[Susan]

Yes, she is. She works full time and has to babysit three times a week.

[Kathy]

Susan, don't yell at me. I'm in agreement with you.

[Susan]

Lily. Give me her number. I'll handle this for you, darling.

[Kathy]

Lily, trust me. We haven't had this conversation in a long time. But when Susan's up set, she has a cadre of baseball bats and she will use them. Do not, I repeat, do not give Susan her phone number. But seriously, sweetie, this is all about setting appropriate boundaries and communicating to your family. And you know what? Sometimes conversations aren't fun. Sometimes they're difficult. But that doesn't.

[Susan]

It's not going to be fun.

[Kathy]

It doesn't mean you don't have to have them. So good luck. Let us know what happens. I'm sure you love being an auntie, but that doesn't mean.

[Susan]

It's not like you love her any less by doing this. But you need to sit your sister down and just say, I think you're taking advantage of me. What is your sister doing that she needs you to babysit three times a week?

[Kathy]

See, Susan, you are a very different person than I in that way. And then we're gonna move on to my favorite game. It's not. She doesn't owe her sister an explanation. Sorry. All you have to do, Lily, is say, I can't do this. Next Friday's my last day. I love you and I love my niece or nephew, whatever, but I'm not going to be able to do it. Why not? Because I am not prepared to do it any longer. You don't owe anyone any more of an extra, so you don't have to say, why don't you get a nanny and pay for it? You don't have to do that. Keep it simple. Keep it calm.

[Susan]

Sometimes that's hard, though.

[Kathy]

I said at the beginning, it's hard to communicate these tough things. Set the boundaries, Lily. And hopefully this will help you to set boundaries in other parts of your life. Let us know what happens. We're rooting for you.

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[Susan]

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[Kathy]

Okay. Susan?

[Susan]

Yes.

[Kathy]

I want to play a game. It's called icky or picky. Okay.

[Susan]

Yes, it is.

[Kathy]

Okay, so we're switch off. Yep. Okay. We're going to switch off.

[Susan]

Go reading things that girls consider icks. Or we both say if we do think it's an ick or if they're being too picky, and if it's. It's not really a big deal.

[Kathy]

So you and I can never be too picky.

[Susan]

Just saying. All right, Kathy.

[Kathy]

All right, Ready? All right. You know, I know because I have kids that use this term all the time. But for any of you listening who don't know, an ick is something that makes you suddenly lose interest or attraction towards someone. Sometimes they're lighthearted and just a temporary ick moment, but others can wind up totally killing the vibe. All right, is it icky or picky?

[Susan]

If he runs with a backpack on?

[Kathy]

Could care less. It's picky.

[Susan]

It's picky. Yeah.

[Kathy]

He'S a picky eater. Nah, that's a dick for me. That's icky. Yeah, no, that's icky for me.

[Susan]

Oh, is it?

[Kathy]

Yeah, he's picky. That guy that I dated for a short period of time, he only ate certain foods and at certain times of the day that if that's what we mean by a picky eater, that gives me the ick. If by being a picky. But if being a picky eater means he doesn't like artichokes, then it's fine.

[Susan]

All right, how about when you ask what he's. What his favorite show is, he replies with, I don't really watch tv.

[Kathy]

Are we being honest?

[Susan]

Yeah, we're being honest.

[Kathy]

That'd be icky for me. I don't watch it. You think it's picky?

[Susan]

Yeah, I don't care if you don't watch tv.

[Kathy]

Really? So the next time you have a guy over that you're dating and you want to scroll up and watch a movie and he says, sorry, I don't really watch tv, that's not going to give you the.

[Susan]

Asked what his favorite show it's not watching a movie. I'm looking at what's your favorite show? And he goes, I don't really watch tv. That doesn't necessarily mean he won't watch a movie.

[Kathy]

Okay, you're being picky on this icky, picky, picky deal.

[Susan]

No, I'm not.

[Kathy]

All right. He doesn't wear socks with his shoes.

[Susan]

Picky, definitely. I think that's cool.

[Kathy]

You know who doesn't wear socks with his shoes in his photo shoot? Guy.

[Susan]

Guy. I don't either. A lot of times.

[Kathy]

I don't either.

[Susan]

He only wears his hats backwards. Oh, God. We have to be talking about young Ick is right.

[Kathy]

Yeah. He plays the air guitar when he dances. Listen, if I can get a guy to dance with me, I don't care if he's dancing. Sneakers.

[Susan]

He's getting into the sound, baby. I hope it's not every song.

[Kathy]

He's grooving and moving.

[Susan]

Yeah, it's picky, all right. He uses a three in one soap. Oh, he's such a man. I'm just not sharing the soap. That's picky.

[Kathy]

And you know what? I want to know what the three and one are. But let's not go there. All right, let's see. Oh, he plays guitar and he's really bad at it.

[Susan]

Icky.

[Kathy]

That's kind of icky. Can I just tell you, though, my son in law. I can say this because I don't think he's going to listen to this podcast. My son in law loves the Beatles and I was babysitting this weekend and he was. They were getting ready to go out and he was making us all breakfast. He loves the Beatles. He was playing. He plays Beatles songs for my granddaughter and he sings with them. Oh, Susan. It is when I tell you tone deaf, my daughter. Let me just say his wife has perfect pitch. She sang in her. In her college Glee club. She was the pitchfork. They didn't need a. You know, they would just say, caitlin, give us a C. Give us a D. Oh, mom. Oh, my God. Listen, is going this. My grandchildren are either going to, you know, have careers on stage or they are going to. People are going to be walking out. Okay, go ahead.

[Susan]

All right. He vapes a lot and it's always flavors, like watermelon ice. Oh, I like watermelon ice. That's not.

[Kathy]

See you vape.

[Susan]

That's icky for me, right?

[Kathy]

Yeah, to me. I won't date the guy who vapes. So.

[Susan]

Okay, that's icky for you, picky for me.

[Kathy]

No, it's not icky. It's lights out for me.

[Susan]

That's not a choice. It's icky or picky. Follow the rules of the game, missy.

[Kathy]

Oh, look who's talking. She couldn't figure out moral quandary, so we had to come up with three new games. Okay, whatever. All right. He uses Snapchat and asks you for yours. I don't know any adult anymore who uses Snapchat.

[Susan]

Oh, my God. That's all my kids use.

[Kathy]

Young kids. Not our age.

[Susan]

My son is not. Well, not our age, but it's my son. I mean, he's 36. That's all they use. That's maybe picky.

[Kathy]

That's a Philly. Who cares? He calls women females. That's just picky.

[Susan]

Picky, picky, picky.

[Kathy]

He's a bad tipper.

[Susan]

Wait, he uses a ton of emojis when he texts. Now, in the beginning, I would think, okay, it's picky, but it's not icky.

[Kathy]

It's just picky. He's a bad tipper. I'm breaking the rules again. I'm out. I'm out. You're out. It's a red flag. And we just broke up. All right?

[Susan]

His Instagram following list is 98 Instagram models.

[Kathy]

That's also. We just broke up. That's way beyond ick.

[Susan]

Okay, he has a ton of pictures with fish.

[Kathy]

I'm breaking up with guys Fast and furious here. I'm out.

[Susan]

Wait, are these questions that somebody that's a potential date or just somebody in general? Like, he's a fisherman, that he likes to fish.

[Kathy]

That's his prerogative. I don't care. I don't want to look at. No. Okay. He excessively identifies with his Harry Potter house.

[Susan]

Icky. Icky. I say no more. Okay. His mood is entirely dependent on how well his football team does. Even if he doesn't have money on the game.

[Kathy]

I mean, it's typical. Yeah. It's about icky for 10 seconds, then it's just picky. Who cares? He speaks to you in baby talk. Oh, Susan, I love you. Wait, that was Kathy talking to you with baby duck.

[Susan]

That was just maybe once to try.

[Kathy]

To be funny, but yeah.

[Susan]

Okay.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Susan]

He thinks reading fiction books is a waste of time.

[Kathy]

That to me, my business. Well, I read a ton of fiction. Yeah. My husband read mostly biography, so I think that's really picky. As long as he reads who? As long as he's reading and it's not staring at pictures of naked women, I'm good.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Kathy]

All right. Listens to podcasts, particularly golden hour on Bachelor Happy Hour. That gets him a red rose. No. Listens to podcasts on how to be an alpha male.

[Susan]

Ew.

[Kathy]

Ew. See, there's icky, picky, and then there's ew, ew. And then there's, you're out the door.

[Susan]

Oh, God, he cries. If you call him out when he's in the wrong, he cries.

[Kathy]

Well, men can cry.

[Susan]

I like the man that cries. I like a man that could cry. I really do. But when you call him out and he's wrong, he cries.

[Kathy]

And you know why he's crying, Susan? When you call him out, how bad? You slapped him. You slapped him so hard.

[Susan]

No, I don't hit. No, no, no. Don't ever say that. I would never hit you, Kathy.

[Kathy]

Well, I'm never wrong. I'm never wrong. So.

[Susan]

Yeah, well, this is true. Wow. Icky and picky and ew.

[Kathy]

We have to add ew, Icky, picky, ew. And what was I thinking when I accepted a date with this guy? Or I never want you to darken my doorway again. I mean, there's all kind. It's very fluid. You and I have a very fluid spectrum. But we can start with, I'm telling you what.

[Susan]

You know what, Kathy? What I really wish. And people out there listening. I bet you wish it, too, either for yourselves or for us. That we had somebody to talk about.

[Kathy]

Whether he's icky or Biggie. Well, here's. No, here's the thing. Here's the thing for all you listeners. Susan and I, we joke around. Oh, we haven't had a date. We both have had dates, but we're both speaking of hickey and picky. We both are looking. We are both picky. And we're looking for the guy that we want to spend this last great chapter with. And so, yeah, we'll have a date with a guy. A couple of dates. Rumor has it that Susan has a date tonight. We'll be asking her how it goes. You know, it's a first date. Maybe it'll go well, maybe it won't.

[Susan]

It's not the first. It's the second.

[Kathy]

Oh, you're right.

[Susan]

It's the second.

[Kathy]

Oh, it's a second date. Whoa. What happens on the second date?

[Susan]

Except nothing. Maybe kissing, but that's it.

[Kathy]

Susan loves to kiss. She's always telling me, I want a man who knows how to make out. I mean.

[Susan]

Yeah. And if you can't make out, just keep on going.

[Kathy]

Susan doesn't care if he lives in a tent under the bridge.

[Susan]

No, I do. No, I do. Oh, yes, I do. I care if they live on the boat. I care if they live under the bridge.

[Kathy]

What? Wait, what's wrong?

[Susan]

Like, a good kisser?

[Kathy]

What's wrong with living on a boat?

[Susan]

No, I wasn't referring to a yacht, Kathy. Or a houseboat.

[Kathy]

Oh, okay. You know what? I would kind of hear me. I want to. I gotcha. I would want to jump out of an airplane. That's one of my things. And I'd kind of like to live on a houseboat if I had a.

[Susan]

Yeah, for a little bit. Not my permanent address, unless it was really.

[Kathy]

How about a yacht in San Tropez?

[Susan]

Okay, then we talk. Yeah.

[Kathy]

Never say, Susan. Have you not learned yet?

[Susan]

Never say.

[Kathy]

Never say never. That's the title of this podcast. Never say never.

[Susan]

This is going to wrap it up for this, and we definitely want your opinion on Icky, picky, and ew. Thanks so much for joining us for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.

[Kathy]

Listen, if you didn't have fun today, you do not have a fun factor in you. We really hope you enjoyed this. Please follow Bachelor Happy Hour. And we have new episodes coming out all the time. Sometimes we have guests. Sometimes we're just dishing out advice. Sometimes we're just giving you some insight into what Susan's and my life is really like.

[Susan]

And some things really spill, and we get a little bit each time.

[Kathy]

That's right. And you got. You got to tune in next time, because I promise you, the first question I'm going to be asking Susan is, how was your day?

[Susan]

How was your day? Okay. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you submit your questions to us, because without them, we'd have nothing to talk about. Now, I shouldn't say that because we have plenty to talk about, but we do like reading your questions. And you know how to do it. You can go to bachelornation.com golden hour or now you can DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.

[Kathy]

Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours golden hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Till next time, stay warm through the.

[Susan]

Rest of this winter because it's almost over. Wait, Kathy, real quick. Did you notice the days are just. Just a teeny, tiny bit longer?

[Kathy]

There you go.

[Susan]

We're heading towards the light.

[Kathy]

So we're heading towards the light. Have a great week. See you next time.

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[Susan]

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