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Rachel Lindsay
Hello, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Rachel, and filling in for charity. Today, we have the one and only golden bachelorette. Joan is here with us. And today we have one of our most anticipated guests. We have Emily Maynard. We are so excited to have her here today. Bachelor Nation loves her. We love her. And so before we get into all that, Joan, you are in Punta Cana.
Joan
Hello. Thank you for having me. I'm dressed, like, not like I'm in a winter climate like I usually am. Chalk is right out here on the balcony with me. We're having a couple of days vacation, so I'm happy to be here with you, but I'm also happy to be.
Rachel Lindsay
In some warmth, and you look tanned. You look fantastic. I just saw you in some not so warm and fantastic weather. We got to catch up. I caught a cold, so if anyone hears my voice, I apologize. Thank God.
Joan
Yeah. You sound terrible.
Rachel Lindsay
Yes.
Joan
I didn't get it, but I think we were at all the same places together. I. I think the only thing you did different than me is you got that massage while I was doing I Do part two, so I think that's where you got it.
Charity
Yes.
Joan
Otherwise, we were together the whole time, but that was so fun. We got to be with, like, all the cool people from all reality tv.
Rachel Lindsay
I feel like I know literally, we had so much fun, and anytime I get to hang out with Joan and Trista, I feel so, so good. You guys are so much fun. I don't think people realize how much fun we have on these trips.
Joan
We do. I mean, if they captured it on film, people would be, like, knocking on the door trying to get these invites. So let's not, like, let anybody really know, because we love doing this, and we're so lucky that we get to get invited to these things and, like, to be in San Francisco during the super bowl is such a treat. There's so much energy and so much going on. I loved being there. And that whole radio row, I'd never been to that. That's a production.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh. It was so overwhelming. It was crazy.
Joan
Yeah, it was crazy. It was fun.
Rachel Lindsay
Joan, what have you and Chalk been up to?
Joan
Just laying on vacationing right now? We were laying this, and we had a couple nice dinners, and we're only here for, like, a quick turnaround because we have to be in LA to do something else the end of this week. So we are just here, like, doing a couple days, and it's beautiful, and it's just, like, nice to be away from the freezing cold. And he and I haven't seen each other in, like, three weeks. So it's time we got back together. So we're still together. Even if you haven't seen pictures of us, I'm going to really try hard to get a cute picture of us tonight. But, like, you know, like I always say, we're living in the moment, so we're really bad about social media, and I got to do better. I know.
Rachel Lindsay
No, Joan, you don't have to prove anything to anyone. You and Chalk are vacationing. You are having a great time. You're protecting your relationship. I'm so here for it. And I don't want to keep you long because I'm sure you want to get back to the sun. So let's get into some bachelor stuff.
Joan
I would love that. In fact, I would love to talk about Taylor, Frankie, Paul's new promo that just came out, and even the key art, it is so different than anything we've ever seen. What do you think about it?
Rachel Lindsay
Well, I want you to go first, because I think our opinions might be a little bit different. I want to know what you liked, what you didn't like.
Joan
So I love that we are not trying to make this something that it's not like, we're not trying to pretend that Taylor is this typical bachelorette that we've all been for so many years, kind of. We're trying to be perfect. We're trying to be, you know, kind of wholesome and pure and have, like, perfect, uneventful, or un. Like, there's no drama in our lives. And then we have Taylor, and she is full of drama. And they're not trying to hard it, you know, hide it. They even, like, have the headlines out there, and they have her talking about herself and how she doesn't think she's good enough. I mean, they are giving us so many glimpses. Of what we're gonna see when she's actually on TV and we're watching episodes. I. I kind of love it. I feel like we're. We're, like, embracing what we. What they cast, and they had to do that.
Rachel Lindsay
What did you think about the key art? Like, her poster?
Joan
I thought it was really cute. I don't even know what my poster looked like, to tell you the truth. I know you remember yours. I couldn't even tell you. I. I don't think I've ever seen it, to be honest.
Rachel Lindsay
I want to picture of you in my house.
Joan
Oh, God. It's probably not gonna be pretty. I don't think there is one.
Rachel Lindsay
I don't think it's gorgeous.
Joan
I don't know about that. Yours is so good. I hope you have a picture of yours. But hers is very telling. Like, how about the little square that said instead of mom talk, it says the Book of Mormon, the Book of more men. I'm like, that was clever.
Rachel Lindsay
I loved that.
Joan
That.
Rachel Lindsay
I think, though, Okay. I think there's so much pressure for Taylor to, like, revive this. Like, revive the franchise. Just be. But they gave her this key art, this promo cover, and it kind of looks like. Do you remember that AI trend that was going around where it was, like, people and it was like, they were Barbies, and then it was, like, their accessories, like, why did we do it? Like, a looking key or for someone that, like, needs to turn this franchise around.
Joan
Yeah, okay, I. I get that. Totally. I think they're just trying to give, like, all the pieces of her life. Like, they did the mom and they did, like, you know, the more men, and they, like, put her Crocs there. Like, I think that people don't know that she's, like, super casual, that she doesn't dress up in evening gowns. She. If you look at her secret Lives of Mormon wives, they're a lot of times in sweats and in, like, workout gear. And I think that they are just nodding to all the things that are so different from Bachelor in the past. Like, we're always in evening gowns. We're always dressed up like, this is not the tailor. This is not the typical bachelorette. And I think they're trying to lean into that and show that.
Rachel Lindsay
I will say. And I'm not sure how Taylor feels. This is all just me speaking, and I know that this is pretty much out of Taylor's hands, actually. I don't know. She might have had more say. I had absolutely no say in my key art in my Promo. But I think the one thing I wanted when I came in was I wanted to feel like the Bachelorette and I wanted to have this fantasy, and I think she's, like, not able to escape the Mormon Wives. Like, part of it. This is a totally different franchise. She agreed to be the Bachelorette, and it feels like this is kind of like following her. And I'm just, like, watching all these clips of her on Mormon Wives. Like, she. I don't feel like she wants that to be what her season's really about. It's a part of her. Her kids are a part of her. Her faith is. But do I want to see, like, clips of her crying over Dakota in her promo? I don't, personally. I want to see something fresh.
Joan
Yeah. I do see your point of view there, that we're like, this almost looks like a spin off of Mormon Wives as opposed to a Bachelor thing. Okay, I get it. I get it. I totally do. Yeah. Maybe we're just trying to get all that out of the way in the beginning. Like, we acknowledge it. Okay. And now let's. Let's go and see her fall in love.
Rachel Lindsay
I get it. And, like, I liked the. Though look what she made me do. I'm sure. I can't even imagine the amount of money they paid to get, like, all the money went to get that song. And I loved, like, there it is, the glass cracking. I think they could have done it. Like, my favorite promo of all time is Michelle Young's and how it went from, like, she was playing basketball and then she was a teacher, and then she was in this beautiful ball gown, and it was so well done.
Joan
And.
Rachel Lindsay
And I wish Taylor would have gotten something similar to that where it was.
Joan
Maybe it's not Taylor.
Rachel Lindsay
Maybe it's not. And she was, you know, she was in her sweats, which I'm sure she loved. But I would like to know if she also kind of wanted to be like, all right, I'm also the Bachelorette and this is, like, my promo. Yeah. So maybe it is up to her. I'm just kind of comparing it to the Bachelorettes of the past. She is so different. And again, I don't know how much say, probably. Probably not any that she got, but I just want the best for her, and I wanted her promo to be, like, jaw dropping. Iconic.
Joan
Elegant. Elegant and classy and not a nod to all this, like, crazy stuff that, like, her past is all about. Like, that's all we know about right now. I know. I see that. Maybe she could have gotten a Clean start a little bit. I just don't think that Bachelor Nation would have bought it. I think they would be like, we know what the past is, and you're trying to make her look like something she's not. Possibly.
Rachel Lindsay
Well, Taylor, we're excited. We have.
Joan
We are excited no matter what.
Rachel Lindsay
Yes. Today we have one of our most anticipated guests. We have someone that is so legendary, one of my favorite bachelorettes of all time. We are about to bring on Emily Maynard. I'm so excited. Joan, how are you feeling?
Joan
I can't wait to talk to her. I got to know her a little bit when we did our little reunion of all the, you know, former bachelorettes, But I am dying to, like, really dive into things and talk to her today. Yes.
Rachel Lindsay
So let's welcome in Emily.
Joan
Hi, Emily. Welcome to Happy hour. We are so excited to have you.
Rachel Lindsay
I think you are one of our most anticipated guests. I think I could speak for all of Bachelor Nation. You are one of the most iconic bachelorettes of all time. So we are so happy to have you here. Thank you again.
Emily Maynard
Thank you so much.
Joan
I feel like this has been such a long time coming, but, like, it's kind of a reunion for us because we just saw each other a few months ago at the Bachelorette reunion for Taylor season. I think we should really talk about that.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, for sure.
Rachel Lindsay
I think the last time you guys had a reunion was it seven years ago.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, I. I want to say it was right before Hannah's season, so 2019, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
You have. I mean, had so many exciting updates since then, and I can't wait to touch on all of them. But I guess coming back for the second time, how did it feel?
Emily Maynard
Coming back for the second time was. It was so much fun. I got to see everybody and meet all of you younger girls, which was awesome.
Joan
Older?
Emily Maynard
Oh, no, newer.
Joan
Newer.
Emily Maynard
I say newer.
Joan
You look younger. So.
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Emily Maynard
But it was funny because as we were all coming down to the lobby of the hotel, you know, I've kind of fallen off from watching the show for a while, and so I'm sure the feeling was mutual from the newer people. But, like, the only reason I knew that a lot of them were bachelorettes was because of the bright red jumpsuits we were wearing. I'm sure they were like, who is this lady?
Joan
But I don't think anybody said that about you, to be honest. I think you have one of the iconic seasons. In fact, I went back when I. When I got the Bachelorette gig, I went back and watched your season because you did it so well, and you're the only other person that had been on it as a mother. So I, I love that. I mean, your story is very different than mine, but I did love that you came with, like, like an extra element to your life. Like, you had lived a little more than probably a lot of your contestants had.
Emily Maynard
Well, thank you so much. Yeah, they, you know, ask you to go back and remember some of the times from your Bachelorette season. And honestly, like, I don't remember a ton.
Joan
Is that right?
Emily Maynard
Yeah, I, I anytime. Like, sometimes you'll be on Tick Tock or Instagram and they'll have, like, throwback, whatever, and it'll be, you know, a little clip of me in a bunch of a lot of different clips, and I just want to hide.
Rachel Lindsay
It's.
Joan
Oh, I loved your season. I know it's hard to watch yourself. I'm sure, Rachel, you feel the same way, and I know you do now, Emily, that it's weird to watch yourself. And I kind of agree a little bit. I've forgotten a lot of things I did on my season, and mine wasn't that long ago.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, I didn't remember a lot of the dates. I think it's God's protection.
Rachel Lindsay
Honestly.
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Rachel Lindsay
Well, of course I remembered you, Emily. I think you have just had so many iconic moments. The world fell in love with you and your story. Like Joan said, you are a mother and the new Bachelorette, Taylor is a mother as well. So I was curious and each of us got to kind of go off and have a conversation with her. What conversations were you involved with with Taylor?
Emily Maynard
We talked about her daughter or her kids being there and my daughter being with me during filming. I wasn't sure at that point in her season if they were, like, able to travel with her or what, but Ricky was able to travel with me a lot, which was awesome. And I was really, really grateful that they let me do that. But honestly, do y' all remember? Were any of y' all in my conversations?
Joan
I wasn't in it.
Rachel Lindsay
I was in the failure conversation, the doing things wrong. So you were obviously not in my conversation, but I feel like you had some iconic, like, lead takedown moments on your season. Things that Taylor might face. Did you talk to her about any of that? Like the men possibly saying things about her children?
Emily Maynard
Honestly, every. I mean, I hate to say this. Every conversation I was in, I am not like a. When I get in the room full of all of you ladies, I kind of go into my own little shell.
Rachel Lindsay
I was the same.
Emily Maynard
I kind of just sat back and listened a lot because a lot of the girls, they are not that way. So I did not want to. I didn't really talk to Taylor a lot. I didn't talk to her at all, one on one. And I figured if she had any questions about It. She could have asked me, but I. I didn't really talk to her much.
Joan
Did you. Did you give her any advice that you could think of being in kind of the same situation as she. As she was, because you were one of the only people that could actually give her, like, a real coming from experience kind of advice?
Emily Maynard
Yeah, I mean, I think I told her just to kind of forget that you're a mom for a minute. I know that that's probably the opposite advice that most people would give, but in my head, a lot was, well, what are they going to say? I can't do this.
Joan
I'm a mom.
Emily Maynard
I can't do this. I'm a mom. But it's truly the only time in my life since I was, like, before I had Ricky, so since I was 18 that I didn't have somebody asking me to open up a fruit snack. I didn't have to worry about flushing anybody else's toilet. So I really took advantage of that.
Joan
I love that. Did you feel like Taylor was doing the same thing?
Emily Maynard
I hope so.
Joan
Yeah.
Emily Maynard
I hope so. I mean, I watched her on Mormon Wives, so I feel like she has a good balance.
Joan
She has three kids, so I bet it was really kind of a vacation being away from her kids a little bit. I know that I have four, but mine are all grown. But I remember five minutes just in the bathroom without somebody bothering you was like a treat. So, yes, I get. Yeah. Being away for that amount of time, I'm sure you miss them a lot, but it's also a little, like, you get a chance to breathe and maybe, like, get back in touch with yourself, which is what you really need when you're on a show like this.
Emily Maynard
Yeah. Like, really figure out what is important to you and who you are. I learned a lot about myself and during that whole process, just things that I like about myself, things I don't like about myself. And I always. Even whenever I was on the Bachelor and going into the Bachelorette, I told everybody to journal because I. It was like, the only way I could get my feelings out because there was so much going on in my brain that I just had to write a lot. And that. That would be my advice for, like, a lot of the other bachelorettes going forward is to journal. Like, on those long flights, just journal. And what a gift it is for me 100 years later to be able to go back and reread, like, all this nonsense and funny stuff that I forgot.
Joan
Yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
I was going to ask if you still had any of your journals.
Emily Maynard
Oh, I saved. Literally, I'm. I am. I throw everything away, but I save, like, sentimental things, so I still have, like, One of the guys gave me bobbleheads the first night. I still have those. I mean, I saved, like, my room keys. I saved. I stole a robe from the Greenbrier. I still use that regularly.
Rachel Lindsay
I stole a rope, too. Yeah. I still have souvenir.
Joan
I had no idea I could steal stuff.
Emily Maynard
I still have so much stuff for my season. I saw all my journals, anything. Any letter anybody wrote me, I saved it.
Joan
Yeah, I have all that stuff, too.
Rachel Lindsay
Did you get to keep any of your clothes? I know back in the day, Carrie said the Bachelorettes got to keep, like, shoes.
Emily Maynard
So once filming was over, I got a shipment. You know those, like, giant suitcases that you travel with? Yeah, they just ship those to me. I had, like, eight suitcases and, yeah, everything.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh.
Joan
I got some of mine. I got a good chunk of mine. None of the evening gowns, but I got a lot of other stuff. Rachel, did you get it? I'm sure you got some of your stuff.
Rachel Lindsay
I think I have a couple parachutes, and that's really. I know. I know I need to go back and. And ask for some more. But, Emily, I do have one more question. Just going back a little bit. I feel like I was kind of similar at the reunion. There were so many big personalities in the room. It was kind of, like, hard to get a word in. Is there anyone out of the Bachelorettes that you're still close with that you were, like, excited to see again?
Emily Maynard
I love Andy.
Rachel Lindsay
She's the best.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, I love Andy. I got to meet Tasia, and I really liked her. I got to meet Hannah, and you know, all these girls, you feel like you know each other just from social media and all of that. So I felt like I knew Hannah. I really love Rachel Lindsay. She always makes me laugh. And, I mean, I really love all of the girls.
Rachel Lindsay
They are, like, such a good group. We are, I think, so lucky to have our little Bachelorette family. Do you think Hannah's season was about when you stopped watching? I feel like that's the normal, like, cutoff we normally hear.
Emily Maynard
I stopped watching after my season.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh. Wait. I kind of love that. It's hard to watch back.
Emily Maynard
Yeah.
Joan
So you. You didn't watch any guys coming off of your show?
Emily Maynard
No. No. Oh, wow. No.
Joan
Interesting.
Emily Maynard
And two of my guys have been the Bachelor since then. I know, and I didn't watch either. My husband watched it, so, yeah, I Just. And two hours is. Is. I had. I had babies pretty soon after my season was over, so that was just too late for me to be up. I don't have two hours.
Rachel Lindsay
We lived it. We don't need to re. Watch it.
Joan
Yeah, I haven't watched mine either.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, I. I don't even want Ricky to watch it. I. I'm sure she's seen, like, clips here and there, but we don't talk like that.
Joan
Oh, that's so funny. I feel like you did such a good job. You should be proud about how you did it. You were so elegant and mature at such a really young age, and you had a lot of responsibility in your life, and you just, like, juggled everything so well, and I. I feel like you should be really proud of it. I know you don't want to watch it. I know it's hard to read for me to watch mine back, but I just feel like if I were you, I would have been really proud of, like, what I did.
Emily Maynard
Thank you so much for saying that.
Joan
And talking about kids. I mean, so you are a mom. Obviously. You have a huge family. I only have four, and I always think I'm like a albatross. You have six kids, and now you're a grandma. And I feel like you and I are the only grand grandmothers in Bachelor World. How do you juggle that? How do you juggle having your own babies and then also being a grandma?
Emily Maynard
Well, she's not even three weeks old yet, so I'm still trying to figure it out. I will say, like, I. I've never been the mom that, like, just sits and rocks her babies all day long. Like, that's just not my personality. And so Romy's dad, his. His parents will come over, and that's her name, Romy. Which is funny because it's Jojo's baby's name, too.
Rachel Lindsay
I love that. So beautiful.
Emily Maynard
So whatever. But he was growing up was always like Emily and Ricky, so she wanted Ricky and Romy.
Rachel Lindsay
But anyway, I think it's perfect.
Joan
It's a really over.
Emily Maynard
And just hold her.
Joan
Just hold the baby.
Emily Maynard
And I'm like, you're gonna. I can do that, grandma. Than me. Oh, my God.
Joan
Oh, no, no, no, baby. They need all of the grandma stuff. So if you're like the action grandma, that's good. I'm the holding grandma. I'm a little bit of both. But I love holding a baby. It's probably my favorite thing to do in the entire world.
Emily Maynard
I like, like getting up with her at night. And I love all of that, but I just have too much stuff going on and, like, too much things. Too many things in my brain. And my kids are always yelling at.
Rachel Lindsay
Me.
Emily Maynard
That if I had the opportunity to sit all day and just. I would. But it's just that stage.
Joan
You don't have time for that.
Emily Maynard
And I'm not too far removed from the baby stage that I miss it yet.
Joan
Yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
I was about to say.
Joan
Yeah, it's so true. You just have your own.
Rachel Lindsay
He just turned three.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, he just turned three, and he's a dream and just so much fun.
Joan
What's your. What's your grandma name? Are you like, a. Like Grandma, or do you have a funky name like the rest of us now?
Emily Maynard
I'm Lovey.
Joan
Oh, my God. I love that.
Rachel Lindsay
I love that. Like, Kris Jenner, right?
Emily Maynard
Is that what she is?
Rachel Lindsay
I think she's Lovey. It's iconic. I absolutely love it.
Joan
Yeah. Lovey is so cute. I'm Jojo, because Joan, obviously.
Emily Maynard
Oh, that's cute.
Joan
Yeah. But I felt like it's. It would feel. I mean, you are so incredibly young. I felt like I was too young to be grandma because my mom is grandma. She's 93. I was like, how could you be. How could somebody call me grandma? So I can't imagine, like, you will never be old enough to be grandma.
Emily Maynard
Well, my kids called me Mama Maynard for a little bit, so I was like, yeah, no, because I have a mama. And I was like, yeah, no, no, no, That's.
Joan
That's not doing that guy.
Emily Maynard
No.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh. You mentioned Romy. She's only three weeks old. How is that getting the call that Ricky was going into labor? Were you so excited?
Emily Maynard
Well, she had everything scheduled. Okay. So I was there at, like, five in the morning, and it was really exciting. It was so fun. It's. I've never been on, like, the other side of it, like, waiting in the waiting room, and it was really fun.
Rachel Lindsay
Did you. I was gonna say, did you get to be in the room at all with her, or were you in the waiting room?
Emily Maynard
I was in the waiting room. I stood. I was like, outside of. She had a C section, so I was, like, outside of the operating room, so I got to go in recovery with her and everything. So, yeah, it was. And I could, like, hear her whenever Romeo was born, I could hear her, like, crying in the. And it was really sweet.
Rachel Lindsay
I love Ricky and Romy. That's like. It's so Gilmore Girls.
Emily Maynard
Like, I know. It's really sweet.
Joan
Yeah. I Love an liberation too. Ricky and Romy is so cute. Yeah, yeah.
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Joan
Is there anything else you'd like to share, like with the listeners about what you have going on in your life? I mean, I know you have such a busy life with kids, so anything else that we could. Any Any other news?
Emily Maynard
I have a new product coming out. Use my coat. I'm just kidding. I don't have anything to say.
Joan
When did you have time to do that?
Rachel Lindsay
I'm just kidding.
Emily Maynard
I don't have anything going on. Just, you know, just carpool and carpool.
Joan
I have those days. I have a lot of those days.
Rachel Lindsay
Emily, you told Chris Harrison, I think, at the last reunion that you were ready to get a minivan. Have you bought one yet?
Emily Maynard
No. I know I am at the point where I need one because my car is like a clown car. Every seat, like, when we get out of places, they just keep coming. Kids just keep coming out of this car. And I'm sure people think it's, you know, like, wonder what's going on in there. But I have not gotten a minivan just yet. I just. My ego and my pride just won't let me do it.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my God.
Joan
I had one. It's not pretty.
Rachel Lindsay
It's not pretty functional.
Joan
I have them for years. Yeah, but they are so convenient because you can climb into the back and put kids in seat belts and car seats so much easier than you can do it in the suv.
Emily Maynard
I did. So, like, they had this Christmas light tour around Charlotte, and so I. My husband's in the car business, so I borrowed, like, a Sprinter van from the dealership and I would drive one of those in a heartbeat because I was able to, like, go through the drive thru at Chick Fil A, hand everybody out. Like, walk through the little aisle. It's like a church van.
Rachel Lindsay
I cannot see you driving a Sprinter.
Emily Maynard
Here's your Chick Fil A. Here's like, every. Like, nobody touch each other. Like, everybody stop fighting. That's what I would drive.
Joan
Yeah, they're hard to park. Yeah, they're hard to park, I think. Yeah, sure. You can't go to the carpool line in that.
Emily Maynard
No, no. And my kids didn't get in it. I would have to park way far away. Like, they wouldn't even.
Joan
Yeah, they'd be mortified. So. Yeah, yeah, I know. I know they have opinions.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh. Well, this is so amazing, Emily. Anything else? Like, any updates you have for us, Anything you want to share with the listeners? I'm sure they've missed getting all the updates from you.
Emily Maynard
Um, no. I mean, I. I wish I was more exciting.
Rachel Lindsay
No, you are. This is so exciting.
Joan
You're, like, living the life that we all imagine. Like, we come on the show hoping for a normal life. Like, that's why we're there. We're trying to find our person and start, you know, start the next chapter of our life. And you did it. You did it perfectly.
Emily Maynard
Thank you. I. Yeah. I love my life. I'm so grateful for it. Like, I couldn't have picked it better. My husband's amazing. Yeah.
Joan
Beautiful family.
Emily Maynard
Thank you so much. I think everybody's New Year's resolution is like, oh, I'm gonna, like, get off of Instagram. Mine's always like, I need to post more on Instagram.
Rachel Lindsay
Yes. We want to see.
Joan
We wish you would. Would you please do that? I know it's, like, a lot, so. No, I know. Well, when you do, we all. We all. We all pay attention. So we love seeing your updates. So if you feel like taking a picture every once in a while, we're looking for them.
Emily Maynard
Well, thank you.
Rachel Lindsay
Before, I think I was going to say, Emily, are you going to be watching Taylor season, do you think?
Emily Maynard
I mean, I hope. I hope so. I just.
Rachel Lindsay
If you get the chance.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, like, if I. Yeah. Yes, I want to, and. Because I feel like the season is so different and it's. Everything is so different. I mean. Yeah, whenever I was the Bachelorette, it was like, you have to be so wholesome. They. Yeah, you had to be so wholesome. And.
Joan
Yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
Do you feel like she's the opposite? A little bit.
Emily Maynard
I feel like she not. Not that she's not wholesome, but that she just marches to her own drum and just kind of doesn't really care what people think. And as much as I said, oh, I don't care what people think, I did care a lot. And so I think it holds all of us back a little bit, just knowing that everybody's going to be watching this. But also because she has so much history with reality TV already that, you know, by the end of my season, if there was a camera in the room, it felt like a microwave in the room. Like, I really didn't notice it. So hopefully she's already there and doesn't really think about it as much.
Joan
Yeah, I don't think she holds back. I don't think she did in her season when she was on Secret Lives. Yeah, I think she just was always, like, unapologetically herself, which I love that about her. Even if it made her look bad, she still was super honest. And I feel like maybe that is a great intro for the guys that they don't feel like they have to be perfect and they can show their real selves. I'm so surprised how the Bachelor has taken such a different path on this one. What do you think about that? Do you think that we are evolving with the times, like we need to? Or you're like, oh, my gosh, what's happening to our Bachelor?
Emily Maynard
I. I think it's great. I. I also, like, my daughter watches all the other ones that are a little bit more risque or, like, edgier, and I don't. Do you guys watch those?
Rachel Lindsay
I was gonna ask which. Which ones.
Emily Maynard
Like Love Island.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, yes.
Emily Maynard
And there's one. Is that Molly May.
Rachel Lindsay
Molly Mae's on Love Island? Yes.
Emily Maynard
Yeah. Ricky loves Molly Mae.
Rachel Lindsay
Like, great. Yes.
Emily Maynard
All of those shows that are a little bit, like I said, edgier. Maybe it's time for the Bachelor to kind of go in that direction. And it just. I just think of as this, like, iconic show that I know, you know, is. It's just always been the same way.
Joan
Yeah.
Emily Maynard
It's changing and it's exciting, but it kind of makes me a little sad. But I think the fact that Taylor is a mom and I think it really makes sense that she's actually looking for somebody.
Joan
Yeah, totally. Did you see the promo or the poster that's come out?
Emily Maynard
I did see the poster. Yeah.
Joan
Yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
What did you think?
Joan
What do you think about that?
Emily Maynard
I mean, I think it's so cool. Yeah, I think it's so cool.
Joan
I love it.
Emily Maynard
On my season, because I was a mom, I complained a lot because I'm like, does my date really have to entail me cutting up oranges and taking them to soccer practice? Like, can I, like, can I do something else?
Rachel Lindsay
Can I go to Paris and have wine? Like, yes, yes.
Emily Maynard
We did a lot of kid centered things. Like we went to a park with a bunch of kids that weren't even mine.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, no. They love those kind of dates on the show.
Emily Maynard
Yeah.
Joan
I mean, they had this vision of who you were, and they wanted to really play up on that. And I wonder if they're doing the same thing with. With Taylor. I mean, they have a vision of who she is. I wonder if they're going to play up on her kind of, you know, a risk taker and having done so many things in her life already.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
So help you at all with the guys when you went on those sort of dates, like, see how they were with children or was it more the one on one time?
Emily Maynard
No, every guy when I dated, like, it was like, I love my nieces and nephews. I'm the best uncle ever.
Joan
Oh, yeah.
Emily Maynard
Like.
Rachel Lindsay
Like, I'm sure they're all, of course you are.
Joan
Yeah, it'll be.
Rachel Lindsay
It'll be interesting for sure. Is there anything. We talked about it changing so much that you would like to bring back that the Bachelor used to do that? Maybe they've stopped.
Emily Maynard
I really liked way back in the day when they would go. I don't know if I ever did it, but, like, they would go in the room and look at everybody's pictures. That always made me laugh.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh. I remember that. I think Ashley sees in the one before. You still had the pictures that always made me laugh.
Emily Maynard
I wish they would bring back Bachelor Pad where they competed for money.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, yeah. When did they stop doing that?
Emily Maynard
Probably.
Rachel Lindsay
Like, did they only do one season?
Emily Maynard
I don't know.
Rachel Lindsay
You don't know?
Charity
Okay, I'm producers gonna jump in here because, like, justice for Bachelor Pad, it's the greatest show of all time.
Rachel Lindsay
We've done it. I don't know much about it.
Charity
Oh, you will be watching all of them. As long as you are hosting this podcast.
Rachel Lindsay
I need to go do my. My research.
Emily Maynard
The last one season. I forget which one. Yeah, one season. So, like, the end, the two. The couple, but they're not really a couple. Like, they just kind of partner up. So it's not like Bachelor in Paradise where you're, like, in love with these people, but you just partner up for all these games. And at the end, it's like you both have to write on a paper, like, keep the money or split the money. And if you both say keep the money, you whatever. I think that was the rule. But then at the end, this guy wrote, split the money. So he got all of it, and she got none. And it was, like, the biggest deal ever. It was so exciting.
Rachel Lindsay
Fun fact.
Charity
I was actually sitting in the audience when that happened.
Joan
Really?
Charity
12 hours during the filming. I will never forget when Nick Peterson stood up and held his big sign and said, keep the money.
Emily Maynard
Yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my God.
Charity
And Rachel Trueheart goes chasing him, sobbing hysterically, being like, I can't believe you did this to me, you guys. That's the reason that made me want to work it on this franchise.
Rachel Lindsay
Do you think that. I mean, it didn't work out for you, but do you think this franchise still has the ability to work for some people?
Emily Maynard
Yeah, I mean, it has. Who's the last Bachelorette that has stayed together?
Rachel Lindsay
Is it charity or Joan, who was.
Joan
Well, I like you can't hardly count me. I'm old. The young crew. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's right out there on the balcony right now. I'm in Punta Cana right now with him.
Emily Maynard
Oh, my gosh. You're living the dream. That's awesome.
Joan
I am so lucky. So, so lucky. But I think of, like, the young people, probably Charity. I mean, Zach and Katie, Charity and Daughton. We've got some really good. And Joey and Kelsey, We've had, like, a really successful, like, run lately.
Emily Maynard
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Joan
I mean, there are some that weren't. I mean, Jen didn't work out, and, yeah, there were some that didn't work out, but, I mean, we've had some really good ones lately.
Emily Maynard
That's life, too.
Rachel Lindsay
Emily, how did you meet Tyler?
Emily Maynard
We met at church.
Rachel Lindsay
That's amazing.
Emily Maynard
Yeah, it was after my season of the Bachelor, and I just kind of, like, went into a hole, and so I started going to a new church, and I started, like, doing this weekly jewelry club through my church for this school. And he was one of the coordinators, so every Thursday he'd help Ricky and I carry out our beads to my car. And he never asked me for my phone number. Never, like, was not interested in me at all. Which, of course, made me fall in love.
Rachel Lindsay
I was gonna say, were you interested in him right away or was it slow burn?
Emily Maynard
I was. I, like, told my friends. I was like, I met my husband.
Rachel Lindsay
And you were right.
Emily Maynard
But he, like, I said, like, did not show any interest in me at all, so. And actually, whenever my season was on, his brother told him, you need to meet her. She lives in Charlotte. And, like, I think you guys would be like, she's your wife.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh. How quickly after, like, everybody knew except for him.
Charity
Yes.
Emily Maynard
Well, we. After I got back from a Bachelorette, that kind of blew up a little bit. And so that was, like, October. I want to say that that ended.
Joan
So.
Emily Maynard
So we had our first date in January.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh.
Emily Maynard
And it was, like, a done deal.
Rachel Lindsay
And when did you guys get married?
Emily Maynard
The following June.
Rachel Lindsay
So you guys knew?
Emily Maynard
Yeah.
Rachel Lindsay
Sign, sealed, done. Ready for the minivan and ready for the kids.
Joan
Yep, we do look at you now.
Rachel Lindsay
Beautiful story, Emily.
Joan
Everything works out except this joke.
Rachel Lindsay
Yes. No. You are incredible. You are so beloved in this franchise. Before we go, what is the last piece of advice that you would give to any of our future bachelorettes? To Taylor, to anyone after her?
Emily Maynard
My advice would be to enjoy the time without your phone journal and just, like, enjoy somebody else being in charge for a little bit. And remember that it's such a short amount of time. Like, I cried when my season was, when we were done filming, because it was Just so much fun. I had so much fun. And just be so grateful for that opportunity because it. I mean, it's just such a small group, and it's such an honor, and I have the best time.
Rachel Lindsay
Oh, my gosh. And keep all the clothes.
Emily Maynard
Yes.
Rachel Lindsay
So before we go, Emily, we need one quick throwback of one of your most iconic lines. When you were kicking someone out of the mansion, you said, get the fuck out. So are we able to hear it in the 2026 version?
Emily Maynard
Yes. Get the fuck out.
Rachel Lindsay
Sound just as good as it was. So good.
Joan
I think that's how we end today's episode. Emily, thank you so much for joining us today. We had such a great time.
Emily Maynard
Thank you all so much. Thank you so much. This was so fun.
Rachel Lindsay
Yes. Thank you, Emily. And thank you to all of our listeners. Make sure you like and subscribe. We will have more interviews with more of our iconic bachelorettes coming up, and so thank you.
Emily Maynard
Bye.
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This episode of Bachelor Happy Hour features a much-anticipated interview with Emily Maynard, one of Bachelor Nation’s most beloved and iconic Bachelorettes. The hosts, Rachel and Joan, discuss Emily’s experiences on the show, motherhood, her recent reunion with fellow Bachelorettes, and her thoughts on the evolving Bachelor franchise. The episode brings listeners plenty of behind-the-scenes insight, relatable mom moments, and a dose of nostalgia—including Emily reprising her famous “Get the f*ck out!” send-off.
00:00-03:20
03:20-04:48
06:07-11:37
"We're not trying to pretend that Taylor is this typical bachelorette...she is full of drama. And they're not trying to hide it." (Joan, 07:02)
"I think there's so much pressure for Taylor to, like, revive this...and it kind of looks like...that AI trend...like they were Barbies, and then it was, like, their accessories." (Rachel, 07:55)
"I wanted to feel like the Bachelorette and I wanted to have this fantasy, and I think she's not able to escape the Mormon Wives part of it." (Rachel, 09:03)
12:14-15:18
"Honestly, like, I don't remember a ton." (Emily, 14:24)
17:51-21:51
"It's truly the only time in my life since I was, like, 18 that I didn't have somebody asking me to open up a fruit snack..." (Emily, 20:09)
21:51-23:55
23:55-25:26
"I stopped watching after my season." (Emily, 24:07)
25:28-28:56
"Her name, Romy, which is funny because it's JoJo's baby's name, too!" (Emily, 26:16)
31:31-33:40
"I don't have anything going on. Just...carpool and carpool." (Emily, 31:50)
34:39-37:27
"I feel like she...marches to her own drum and doesn't really care what people think...I did care a lot." (Emily, 35:13)
38:09-40:34
40:47-41:39
"That's life too." (Emily, 41:39)
41:39-43:12
43:15-44:28
Emily’s closing advice to future leads:
"Enjoy the time without your phone, journal...just enjoy somebody else being in charge for a little bit...it’s such an honor." (Emily, 43:30)
The episode ends with Emily delivering her iconic line:
“Get the fuck out.” (Emily, 44:22)
On memory and reality TV:
"I don't remember a ton ... sometimes you'll be on Instagram and they'll have a throwback, and I just want to hide." (Emily, 14:37)
On motherhood during filming:
"It's truly the only time in my life... that I didn't have somebody asking me to open up a fruit snack." (Emily, 20:09)
On promo changes for Taylor:
"We're not trying to pretend that Taylor is this typical bachelorette... she is full of drama. And they're not trying to hide it." (Joan, 07:02)
"I think there's so much pressure for Taylor to, like, revive this...and it kind of looks like...that AI trend." (Rachel, 07:55)
On advice for new Bachelorettes:
"Just journal...what a gift it is...to be able to go back and reread all this nonsense and funny stuff I forgot." (Emily, 21:06)
The callback the fans waited for:
“Get the fuck out.” (Emily, 44:22)
| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:20 | Joan joins, vacation chat, catching up | | 06:07 | Taylor’s promo and franchise evolution | | 12:14 | Emily Maynard welcomed, reunion reminiscing | | 17:51 | Motherhood on (and after) the show discussion | | 21:51 | Bachelor keepsakes, what contestants got to keep | | 23:55 | Emily’s viewing history (spoiler: she doesn’t watch anymore)| | 25:28 | Mom/grandma chat, life with six kids, grandma names | | 31:31 | Emily’s current life – minivans, Sprinter van story | | 34:46 | Emily’s thoughts on watching Taylor’s season, show shift | | 38:09 | Bachelor Pad, old show traditions, and best moments | | 41:39 | Emily’s love story with her husband Tyler | | 43:15 | Final advice for future Bachelorettes | | 44:22 | Classic signoff: “Get the fuck out” |
Warm, funny, and nostalgic. The conversation flows with a deep sense of camaraderie and respect, peppered with banter and candid admissions. The hosts and Emily keep things real, owning both the glam and the struggles of Bachelor Nation fame and motherhood.