Exclusive: Blake Moynes, ‘Perfect Match,’ and the NSFW ‘Paradise’ Moment You Never Saw | Happy Hour

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bachelor Happy Hour

Episode: Exclusive: Blake Moynes, ‘Perfect Match,’ and the NSFW ‘Paradise’ Moment You Never Saw

Date: February 12, 2026

Hosts: Charity Lawson & Rachel Recchia
Guest: Blake Moynes

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Overview

In this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour, Charity and Rachel welcome Bachelor Nation favorite Blake Moynes for an open, laughter-filled conversation. The trio dives deep into Blake’s worldwide conservation work, behind-the-scenes Bachelor Nation dynamics, near-miss reality TV appearances, and wild tales from "Paradise"—including a few NSFW moments you definitely didn’t see on TV. Along the way, they discuss friendship, ethics in wildlife tourism, and Blake’s candid self-reflection on love and reality TV.

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Key Discussion Topics & Insights

1. Blake’s Wild Life (Literally) [03:01]

• Blake updates the hosts on his busy life, working with non-profits across the globe on animal conservation projects.
• He rattles off upcoming trips: Zambia, Namibia, Kenya, South Africa, shark work in Florida, Australia, the Maldives, American bison in July, elephant seals, and more.
  • “This year, we're... Zambia, Namibia, Kenya, South Africa... Shark work next week... Going to Australia... Maldives next month, American bison in July...” — Blake [03:37]
• Charity expresses her dream to do an African safari and requests Blake as her future safari guide.
  • “Blake needs to come be our little host, our little tour guide.” — Charity [04:38]
• Blake highlights that he offers unique, impactful trips focused on conservation, working directly with NGOs for exclusive, ethical experiences.

2. Safari Stories & Bachelor Cameos [05:49]

• Rachel reflects on joining Blake’s Africa trip, calling it the “highlight of [her] life.”
• Blake teases future trips bringing along Bachelor alumni to increase visibility for conservation.
  • “Influence for impact. Bringing people out of their comfort zone increases exposure around these organizations.” — Blake [05:49]
• Hints at a mystery “trio” of Bachelor Nation folks coming to Botswana this year (spoiler speculation at [26:55]).

3. Wild Adventures vs. ‘Perfect Match’ [10:27]

• The hosts quiz Blake about “Perfect Match.” He reveals he was this close to joining but backed out due to seeing someone and lack of excitement.
  • “I was very, very, very close to going with Rachel, and at the last minute I just... I could not pull trigger on it.” — Blake [10:37]
• Rachel and Blake share their shift from initially distant acquaintances (with a notorious plastic straw incident) to becoming close friends through Paradise and adventures.
  • “He yelled at me for using a plastic straw. And that was the first time we had a conversation.” — Rachel [13:26]
• Charity and Rachel recall the speculation about the two being more than friends.

4. Paradise Unseen: The NSFW Moment [14:06]

• The infamous “roast” night in Paradise, when “Tequila Blake” let loose.
  • “They had to completely cut Blake's roast...I've never heard anything like that in my life.” — Rachel [14:11]
  • The jokes were so wild ABC couldn’t salvage even a bleeped edit.
    • “I remember Jesse looked at me right away and was like, dude, this is an ABC show. We cannot put this [on TV].” — Blake [15:43]
• Resulted in tension with Jess, Blake’s then-Paradise partner.

5. Navigating Ethics in Animal Tourism [21:07]

• Charity voices her wish to visit an elephant sanctuary, raising the issue of ethical concerns.
  • "Elephant sanctuaries are like, you know, they can be like, yeah, a little not okay." — Charity [21:07]
• Blake breaks down the complexity; nature of the sanctuary, who runs it, and animal engagement rules are crucial.
  • “There's a lot to consider...you’re supposed to really limit human interaction, but sometimes that’s what finances the care for orphans.” — Blake [21:25]
• Details how his trips ensure funding supports NGOs directly; experiences are built for impact, not just tourism.

6. Making Expeditions Accessible [25:03]

• Any motivated listener can join Blake’s impact-focused trips—built in partnership with NGOs rather than commercial lodges for exclusivity and ethical engagement.
  • “Anyone can come on and we usually run...six different destinations a year.” — Blake [25:03]
• Opens new adventures (Maldives, Costa Rica, Australia) for Bachelor alum and general public alike.

7. Mixing Love, Adventure, and TV [27:32], [41:15]

• Charity proposes fitting her honeymoon into Blake’s conservation projects: “I’m literally telling [my fiancé] Donn as soon as I’m done...”
  • Planning is underway for May in South Africa, possibly assisting on an elephant-focused project.
• Rachel and Charity campaign for a Bachelor season built around Blake’s wildlife lifestyle, with Charity suggesting, “We already know what the headline would be, the theme...”
  • “Would you ever do another dating reality show, or are you retired?” — Rachel [41:15]
  • Blake says he’d only do it if it fit his life, didn’t waste anyone’s time, and both sides understood his commitment to travel and conservation.
    • “If you're going to be the Bachelor, you have to be completely in the right mindset, right spot in life...the hardest part is actually the after, I think.” — Blake [44:51]
    • “Right now, I know I would fail that person coming out of the show in this current moment.” — Blake [41:33]

8. Scary Encounters & Animal Stories [32:05/34:57/35:49]

• Blake’s scariest experience: nearly blacking out while free-diving with sharks, saved only by a friend noticing him face-down in the water. [32:15-34:20]
• Facing poachers in South Africa: stationed for anti-poaching patrol, hearing possible threats at night, communicating with rangers with limited English. [34:57]
• Worst animal fear: primates—specifically chimpanzees and spider monkeys, due to intelligence and unpredictable behavior. He recounts being attacked by capuchins in the Amazon, bit on the thumb and neck, and how he remained calm. [36:36-40:43]
  • “Primates, chimps...because their intelligence is so high... One held a grudge for two days and attacked a woman when she came back into town!” — Blake [36:36]
  • “I got attacked by a capuchin monkey...I just stayed calm, covered my ears, and called for help.” — Blake [40:01-40:25]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Influence for Good:
  “Influence for impact... the exposure that lessons in conservation get from just you being there is so important.” — Blake [05:49]

• On the NSFW Roast:
  “They had to completely cut Blake's roast because... it was the most insane thing she's ever heard.” — Rachel [14:11/16:13]

• On Ethics in Animal Tourism:
  “I wouldn't blanket statement sanctuaries... it depends who runs it, what they're actually doing, and whether it's ethical for the animals.” — Blake [21:25]

• On Being The Bachelor:
  “If you're going to be the Bachelor... you better be fucking ready to give them that [commitment] on the outside when the time means the most and actually come through as the person you say you’re going to be.” — Blake [45:26]

• On His Scariest Experience:
  “I remember feeling really woozy... I popped up to the top and was face down and my body was convulsing... very close to having a blackout, which has killed a lot of people.” — Blake (nearly drowning) [32:52-34:20]

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Segment Timestamps

• Blake’s life as a conservationist & world traveler [03:01—04:46]
• Rachel's safari experience [05:29—06:53]
• NSFW Paradise moment (“Tequila Blake” at the roast) [14:06—16:54]
• Perfect Match ‘almost’ cast [10:27—11:57]
• Forming a real friendship in Paradise [12:34—18:39]
• Travel, conservation & ethical animal tourism [21:07—26:41]
• Listener participation in expeditions [25:03—26:41]
• Scariest wildlife encounters (sharks, poachers, monkeys) [32:05—40:43]
• Would Blake do more reality TV? [41:15—43:51]

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Tone & Atmosphere

The tone is authentically playful, candid, and warm, with a balance of heart, humor, and deeper reflection. Blake is self-effacing and open; Charity and Rachel alternate between genuine curiosity, fan-girling over adventure tales, and classic Bachelor-style banter.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

Expect a lively hour where the curtain lifts on not just the jungles of “Paradise,” but the real ones, too. Blake’s stories range from the wild (literally close encounters with sharks and monkeys) to the real (his reluctance to chase further TV romance without being all-in). You’ll get ethical travel tips, behind-the-scenes Bachelor trivia, and genuine friendship moments between three of Bachelor Nation’s most sincere personalities.

Whether you’re here for the drama, the animals, or the untold roast jokes destined never to air, this Happy Hour delivers.

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Next on Bachelor Happy Hour: More insider interviews, possibly an elephant-centric honeymoon, and the continuing adventures of Bachelor alumni making a difference worldwide.

Transcript

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[A]

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Charity.

[C]

And I'm Rachel. And today we have a very special guest, one of my closest friends, Blake Moines. Welcome to the new Bachelor Happy Hour.

[A]

Yay.

[D]

Thanks for having me. It's. It's fun to see you on here, Rachel. I feel like you're going to deliver, and I've already listened to a couple of your podcast charities, so I feel like you guys are going to be a great duo. I really.

[C]

Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much.

[A]

We appreciate that. I mean, we're honored to have you. I was telling Rachel, I was like, you're like the Robert Erin of Bachelor Nation. He's like, I like that compliment.

[D]

Yeah, to some degree. You know, the Irwins are legendary, so, you know, getting to that point is something else. But we definitely share a few things in common. I definitely couldn't dance like that guy, but I think you could.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, if I have a little tequila, right? You know.

[C]

Yes, Tequila. Blake, we will get into all that because I feel like we have so much. So much to talk about. You were actually just on Happy Hour not too long ago. There was some speculation that you might have been on another season of the Bachelorette.

[A]

Oh, tell us more.

[D]

Essentially, there was like a mix up or things. Joe and Serena heard my name at the airport around the same time that they were potentially going to film here and there in Salt Lake and all these things. And the producer's name was named, my name was named, but I wasn't there. So I think it's coincidence. And then knowing that my ass is, you know, been on a couple of those, it was like not. Not out of the question that he would maybe go and do something crazy like that again. So speculation. But that didn't end up happening.

[C]

Absolutely. Where in the world are you right now? You look like you're at home?

[D]

Yeah, I'm at home now for another two weeks, and then. Then it's an onslaught of craziness again. I don't get back basically, till, like, October.

[C]

Tell us about it.

[A]

Yeah, I'm like, I am, like, so intrigued by, like, your adventure. So I, like, obviously this is, like, my first, like, real time having a conversation with you, but I'm, like, I'm. I'm here for it, so I need to know, like, everything that you do, and obviously, you being. You're about to be gone, like you said, for how many months? That's insane.

[D]

Yeah, it's. Where do I start? Okay. So I essentially just work all over the. The world with different nonprofit organizations that focus on different animals that could be trip specific things, like, you know, Rach came on last year. It could be media film specific, and it's basically expeditions, and we kind of storytell on all of the species that are at risk and the challenges and the. The triumphs and. And everything in between. And so, yeah, we just. Yeah, this year, we're. We're going Zambia, Namibia, Kenya, South Africa.

[C]

I want to go to Kenya.

[D]

Yeah. Shark work next week or next. Yeah, in two weeks in Florida. Going to Australia. Do more manatees in Florida. We're going to the Maldives. Next month, it's American bison in July, elephant seal. Like, it's just like, we're. We're all over. We're all over. So.

[A]

Yeah, I love this. Honestly, like, really fascinating.

[D]

Like, but charity, do you have. Do you have, like, an animal that you've always had, like, a. I would love to go and do this or a place or a destination that you would.

[A]

I mean. I mean, I'm glad that you're asking me, because I was also telling Marissa I was like, for part of our honeymoon, me and Dot, and we want to, like, do, like, this, like, African tour and do, like, a safari. So, like, I want to be, like. I mean, kind of similar to what you and Rachel did. Like, I need to be on grounds. Like, I. I want to get in there. So, I mean, I'm a lover of all animals, and I love that obviously, this is, like, your passion, but also, like, your career, and I think it's amazing. So, yeah, like, if the opportunity ever comes for me and Dot and to do that, I would love to. But, yeah, I was like, blake needs to come be our little host, our little tour guide.

[D]

Well, I could definitely point you in the right direction if you don't do it with me. But if you do do it with me, we can Definitely deliver.

[C]

And, oh, my God, Blake is on their honeymoon.

[D]

Yeah. I'm the one showing up in the morning with their coffee and waking them up with a cute little good morning. And, you know, today we're going to go do this. Make sure you got the right bo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I mean, listen, if you. If you actually are serious about going out and doing that type of point in the right direction and set you up to do things that exclusive access stuff that you could not do, you know, pay for technically.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God. No, I'll have. I mean, if it won't be me reaching out, Dalton definitely will, so. Well, we'll chat after this. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

No, that's so exciting. I truly feel like Africa was the highlight of my life. Like, Blake knows this. It was my dream to go on a safari and go to Africa, and we just had the best time ever. And, Blake, are you planning, I guess, on bringing more bachelor people into that world or what do you have planned for the future with that?

[D]

There. There's a lot being worked on right now, I think, you know, when it comes to. We'll call it influence for impact. Right. So, you know, even Brach, you know, you coming along and doing that, the notoriety, exposure that even to lessons in conservation from just you being there alone and not actually putting even Taylor, any crazy campaigns to help with that, but, you know, more eyes and understanding around these organizations, the work that they're doing is. Is so important. And so, yeah, we, you know, we've done, I think now, four or five, you know, special guest type projects in the past, and we know that how much more we can do when we bring people along and get them out of their comfort zone a little bit. And, you know, Rach, you had it fairly easy in some way because that was very, like, high level. Well, you've done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, no, no, no. Okay. Well, this year, Botswana. I can't tell you who's coming to Botswana just yet.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Is it a bachelor?

[D]

Yeah, there's. It's a. It's a trio, actually.

[C]

There's a tree people.

[D]

Yeah. And so after the. And Rach, it's a different kind of itinerary than what you've done. So we've. It's a different. Different location on the second half. Same thing. Helicopter flying, all these different things. But then it's the package at the end that these. That you probably wouldn't have loved and, like, tent. Like tenting out with the rangers.

[C]

Blake knows. I don't camp.

[A]

I was gonna say Rachel, how did you, like. I. I can't. How long were y' all even there for? Like, forever.

[C]

Well, to me, that was, like, camping, too, a little bit, because we were in it. Like, there was, like, a tent. Like, we were not inside a hotel. But it, like, was really nice. Obviously. There's, like, indoor plumbing, and there was, like, a bedroom, but, like, still, that's like camping to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Blake knows I can't do it. I get scared.

[D]

No, you did. You did. You did great, though, on your outfits and, like, everything.

[C]

That's why he says every time he's like, the outfits.

[D]

Well, they were.

[A]

They were.

[C]

Thing he knows to compliment me on. He's like, your outfits are really, like.

[A]

How was her survival? How was her, you know, how is she managing?

[C]

Yeah, how was I?

[D]

No, I mean, you're easier than I thought that you're going to be.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

Yeah, I thought I did, you know.

[D]

No, I mean, I. Listen, like, you know, we have a bunch of other, you know, guests that were on that trip, and I think the. The one thing which is interesting for. For guests, right, they don't get to meet people that have been on these shows and things before, and they were all just, you know, I love her. I love her because she just, you know, was easy to fit in and get along with everybody. So she, you know, I like. Like, Rach, I'm reviewing a lot of that stuff that we've been putting together. These, like, vlog experiences from no one's seen yet that eventually will come out, but, you know, you can see you and, you know, San Joe and every. Yeah, it's. It was a lot of fun. She did great. She did great. And. And she dove in. I mean, she had a little breakdowns here and there, naturally.

[A]

Wait, whoa. Over what?

[C]

Over 1.

[A]

Please tell me, and I'll tell you if it's valid or not.

[C]

When I was on the Africa trip, it was, like, a couple weeks before Perfect Match was about to air. And while I was there, I was getting texts. Their editing is a little bit different. And they were starting to ask me questions, and they're like, what did you mean by this? What did you mean by this? And I was so nervous about all the Clayton stuff coming out, and I just was trying to have a good time and put everything out of my mind. And one night, I did have a couple glasses of wine, had a full breakdown next to a hippo. Full mental.

[A]

Okay, wait, no ballot. Because I was like, sorry, hippos. Yes.

[C]

I'm like, these things come out of the water. They do.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like. And they run. They, like, charge. So I'm like, no, that's okay. And.

[C]

And that was a. I had or. I think that was it.

[A]

I think that was it.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, listen, it's a. It's a ruler. Like, there's a. There was. You were definitely managing a lot. At the same time, it's a very overstimulating. There's all these things. You're constantly on the go. There's no time to really sit and, like, when you're trying to, you know, manage the overthinking that comes with that. And what's going to happen on the. There's a lot going on, so. Yeah. And, you know, you came over to the. To my tent, and you're just like, I just. I need a second.

[C]

I'm dramatics of the impression right now. Okay, Blake, we know.

[A]

That was really good. I need a second. That was, like, spot on. I'm like, yeah.

[C]

Speaking of Perfect Match, Blake. Oh, you were supposed to go on Perfect Match.

[A]

You were.

[D]

I was very, very, very close to being going to. With Rachel, and the last minute, I just. I just could not. I could pull trigger on it.

[A]

Wait, okay. No, we. Okay, we.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. Because I'm like, I need to talk about this. Okay. It. Was it, like, personal reasons? Like, is it public knowledge why you didn't want to, like, go or what, like, kind of stopped you?

[D]

There was a combination of things. I was seeing somebody kind of at the same time. Right. You remember? And so it was. It wasn't like a full relationship, but it was like. And then the same time, it's like going to do another show that I was unsure about. I just. It was. There's too much. Too much hesitation, and I didn't feel really confident and excited to go, so I wasn't like, the saving grace is knowing that Rachel was likely going when I was at her apartment talking about it. And it was, you know, we were close to go. Rachel was only, what, maybe weeks before or something.

[C]

Huh. Well, yeah, I think they were casting. I can't remember when we were talking about it, but you were the only.

[D]

Other name I was on the phone at, like, your place. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'm not to say something crazy. So did. Did Clayton take your spot? Because that's never.

[C]

No.

[D]

I don't know. I mean, like, I know they were pressing hard. Like, hard to make it happen. Then when I think they're on me every day.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I Don't know. I don't know. I think around the same time, too, like, it was out there. Rachel and I were always hanging out and. And, you know, doing the sea troll stuff together, all these things. So I think they naturally, they wanted some type of, like, curiosity around who was going to be there with Rachel.

[A]

We all did, and I delivered.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Wait. I mean, I guess we'll never know, but I. I would have loved to see that play out. I mean, like, that I feel like.

[C]

Everyone saw In Paradise. We were there together, so it would have probably been, like, a similar experience, I feel.

[D]

Yes. Yes and no. I think, though, too, like, our relationship. Our relationship now is, you know, we were, like, friends there, but now it's like, I know you in a whole different. You know what I mean? Like, there's so much.

[C]

Of course there. Blake. To be my friend in paradise, because we were not friends before Paradise. I actually really didn't like Blake before.

[A]

Wait, really?

[C]

This is true? Blake, do you remember? Okay, so the first night I met Blake, he did not say a word. He was there with our former manager, and he was sitting at the end of the bar, just silently listening to my conversation. And by the end of the dinner, he had so many tequilas that he yelled at me for using a plastic straw. And that was the first time we had a conversation.

[A]

Honestly, I was 50. 50, because I'm like, the plastic straws we do not use. I do understand that she had a.

[C]

Go at me in the middle of the restaurant the first.

[A]

Like, who are you?

[C]

Yeah, I was like, who are you?

[D]

First off, I don't yell. Rach, was that being a bit of a. In the starting, giving you Blake?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah. But I'm. But I'm like, I'm. I'm harmless. I'm just a little bit more out there when I'm drinking.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

He'll. Blake. I feel like that. Yeah. Is that, like. Is that a. Your alter ego?

[D]

I only get to actually. Oh, yeah. A little nothing.

[A]

Sheila.

[C]

Blake. The night of the roast.

[D]

Yeah, that was. Yeah, that was a little. That was a little.

[C]

They had to completely cut Blake's roast because.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

It was.

[C]

I have never heard anything like that in my life. And I'm trying to think. You were partnered with Mercedes, right?

[D]

No, I was. Sorry. Oh, we had partners, right.

[C]

Yeah. Who was your partner?

[D]

Kylie. Kylie.

[C]

Kylie. Okay. And that was the day that Katie Thurston came down to the beach and you guys had a little chat. And I think you were also going through it a little bit with Jess at the time. So Tequila Blake did start to come out early in the day, and by the time we got to that roast, the things that came out of Blake Boyne's mouth, I mean, I'm trying to even remember.

[A]

I was like, don't give us the words, but, like, give me, like. So I. Because obviously, I'm like, I don't even. I don't even think I heard about this from anyone.

[C]

Blake, explain yourself.

[D]

I, I. Okay.

[A]

He's like, I don't.

[D]

First off. So, yeah, I don't have that much of a filter when I'm drinking, and I'm not great. Like, just jokes off the cusp. Like, a lot of my humor where people are like, laugh, like, would be like, you just said that. Like, I'm. I can be off the cusp and say, that's like a little bit fucking wild.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And so there were specific things. I remember. I remember the first thing I came out with was something around Katie and John Hershey and how. Something about. Because she mentioned that I like to be called Daddy, which was a couple. There was a joke, I think.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it.

[D]

Anyways, we went to the whole thing, and I remember Jesse looked at me right away and was like, dude, this is an ABC show. We cannot put this. Like, you, You. You can't talk.

[A]

Like, not Jesse Flagging.

[D]

Was. It was just things that were, like, a little bit much.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, just.

[D]

Just vulgar. Not necessarily mean. They weren't vulgar.

[A]

Not just like, pg. Not family friend friendly.

[D]

Yeah. Like, if the whole thing would have been bleeps and it was just. Yeah, things.

[C]

I don't even think they could have bleeped it out, how vulgar it was.

[A]

I'm screaming. Rachel is like. She is double downing on this. She's like, no, it was the most insane thing she's ever heard.

[D]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

We'll leave it at that. We'll leave it at that. Good to know.

[C]

ABC should release the tapes. That's all. No, he's like, no, no, no, we'll keep.

[A]

We'll keep Tequila Blake in the archives for now. We'll bring him out. We'll bring him out in person. Not on Badger happy hour.

[D]

We'll.

[A]

We'll find him in person.

[D]

Yeah. It would be good, though, to see that, to see those lines, because I. I remember them being like, the boys coming to me after and being like, bro, you're crazy.

[C]

I mean, you and Jess broke up. Was it that night or like the next day?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

She was not happy with you after.

[D]

That.

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[A]

Speaking of, obviously, like, you just said that you guys, like, didn't really have, like, a relationship before you guys went on your season of Paradise. So, like, at any point when you guys came on the beach, like, I know, like, you, Blake and Jess, y' all paired up pretty quickly, but, like, was there ever any interest with you guys exploring, like, a relationship or what was that dynamic like? Like, at the time, I feel like.

[C]

It was, like, immediately I just forced Blake to be my friend because we were the two, like, older people on the beach that have been engaged. And it was kind of. I just felt camaraderie with you, even though we got off to a really rough start.

[D]

Yeah, it was. It was kind of like a. It was almost like a safety feeling in a way. And I think the. Like, I had started talking. I think the first day was when I started talking to Jess, and I think, what, Rachel, Sean or Hilton?

[C]

Yes, that's when I was in a relationship with John. Really liked that one.

[D]

Yeah, I did. You know. Yeah, I was giving my 2 cents across the board and everything that you were kind of doing. And, you know, you didn't always listen, which is okay, but I was, you know, trying to be there as much as possible for you. So, yeah, it was kind of like we. I think we just felt a little out of it in comparison. Everyone else knew each other well, and we. We were the ones that kind of didn't. But I think that's where I think some of the core friendship and trust started coming from it and comfortability and familiarity. And then from there, it was like, yeah, we went. Did sea turtle work and all that stuff, and then it bought one. And so, you know, when you. When you spend that amount of time with somebody and doing some of those other cool things outside of paradise, you know, naturally just become much closer. So that's where I think majority of it came. Like, the. The friendship kind of came from.

[A]

And like, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Blake is the only person in the world. I feel like he will actually tell me, like, what I'm doing wrong and give it to me actually so straight. Like, Blake knows if I ever need an opinion on something, which I do often, he is the one I go to. So we're thankful for paradise and for our old management, or at least I am now.

[A]

You guys have a really, like, beautiful, like, friendship. Obviously, I'm like, enough that it keeps the Internet speculating between you two. But I loved, like, obviously to hear both sides from you guys of how Yalls friendship formed and all the cool things that you guys get to do together. So I love that.

[D]

Yeah, there'll probably be another time where she comes back and doesn't. Does another thing. Another.

[C]

Another project, hopefully. I wanted to do the manatees. I was about to text you about that after, because, you know, that is the one I want to do.

[D]

Well, we can talk about that because there's. There's still room to potentially pull that off.

[C]

Perfect.

[A]

Yeah. I need to. I need to get on. On. On Blake's.

[C]

Yeah, we need.

[A]

I'm trying to go, like, listen, I'm trying to get in there.

[C]

What do you want to do? Like, if you had one animal that was specific for the trip, what would you want to do?

[A]

I'm like, first of all, actually, Blake, you can correct me if this is, like, controversial, because I know, like, a lot of people are like, oh, these are, like, not good to do. But it is, like, kind of in conjunction with, like, my top two things on my bucket list is like, elephant. I know elephant sanctuaries are like, you know, they can be like, yeah, a little not okay.

[D]

But yeah, I mean, it's. It is. You're. You're very right. And it is. It can be controversial, and there's a lot of depth to it. And so I wouldn't. Blanket statement sanctuaries. I think the. The functions and the. You're able to do at certain sanctuaries, and there's a lot of behind the scenes of, like, is there a traffic component here? Is this actually ethical for the animal? You know, you're supposed to not. You're supposed to really limit any human interaction, but at the same time, you know, if that's what's drawing. Say, for example, in Botswana, we went to Elephant Haven, Right. If there's no one coming through those places. There's no funding. And those elephants are all orphans. What happens to them? Right. They're no longer. So I think it's, it's, it's trying to manage each situation and look at them specifically and not. Yeah, throw a blanket statement overall. And there's different regions and areas. And then, you know, who's the one running the play? Like, what's behind it? Who's. Who's the. You know, there's just a lot to consider. So you're not wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

There's just ways to go about it in certain places that you'd want to avoid.

[A]

Exactly. So trying to do that as ethically as possible. But I love elephants, so I'm like, if I could ever see or just be in proximity close to one, I would. It'd be a dream come true. So that's what I want to do. And obviously the safari already mentioned, so.

[C]

Charity and dawn for an elephant project would be amazing.

[A]

No, I, I would actually, like, you don't understand. I would actually, like, I would be crying the entire trip. I'm not kidding. It's like, it's number one. Like, it's number one on my list of anything I need to accomplish in this lifetime. And it's that I'm so serious. So, like, if you make it happen, I owe you my life. I'm laying it down, writing it down right now. No, I love all follow. And I'm like, I love that. It's obviously, like, him explaining the whole, like, ethics behind it. That's obviously very huge to me because I'm like, yeah, like, we're not doing anything. We're not. God, I wish SeaWorld would be done. Like, it's like, stuff like that. I'm like, that's just horrifying. I'm like, I can't. I can't bring myself to support. So I, like, I definitely would love to do these things the right way. So I feel like obviously this is your line of work and you have a lot of knowledge about that.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, there's already things coming to. To mind. And so in May, we're going to South Africa to execute a. A film project with a partner that I've worked with a few times now. And that's where you know when they need funding to. Maybe it's an elephant that's been, you know, gored by another elephant through a tusk, or maybe they need to replace a. For, you know, science, research purposes. That is an ethical way in which you can Never really time it because it's only if the animal needs support or funding to which, you know, you can get up close and personal in a way that is supporting the, the reserve or the, the research initiatives or the vet procedures. And you can kind of help while, while that elephant's down, you know, taking the, the hair samples and measuring and you can be up close in that way where it's, you're actually supporting an initiative. And though that is, that is not overly challenging to pull off. We're probably doing it in May, this May anyways. But yeah, there's, there's definitely opportunity for all that.

[A]

Beautiful. I do want to ask like, and this might be in May, listen, fingers crossed. This might be another like dumb question. But I say no questions are dumb. But like how, like obviously Rachel went on these trips with you but like say someone that's like listening to this, like, how is that something that's like ever accessible to like the public? Like, how do people get to come on these like expeditions and do these types of things that you guys are doing?

[D]

So we have different programs that someone, we've done annually. For example, you know, Botswana with Rachel last year is one that we actually put out. It's one of the ways when we can, we work directly with the NGOs which is what we do differently from any, I don't know, TripAdvisor. Wherever you're finding a safari, we build them out not with a lodge directly, we build it out with a non profit partner that allows us to access exclusivity and activities that typical operators cannot, while at the same time limiting the funding that goes to operators and it goes directly to NGOs. It's a lot more work on our end because we are now becoming the trip facilitator in person and all of that. But that's the way in which we can provide really rich experiences and impactful experiences where you're interacting with the NGO from the people that know it best. And so we create these programs that yes, anyone can come on and we usually run, I don't know, six different, different destinations here. This year we're coming out with new ones. Maldives for the first time. Next month, Costa Rica, we'll be going to Australia. There's a bunch of new ones coming. But yes, we do offer up to, to other people who are like minded and want to go out and do these things and actually do more of an impact trip versus just a passive supply.

[A]

I love this. I'm like everyone should, everyone should know about this. Like I Know, like, it makes me sad though, because I'm like, you know, like people like are just so quick to just book, you know, whatever on their little vacation and it might not be the best, like, obviously thing for the animals, the environment, whatever. And it's like Blake H. I'm. Yeah. I don't know. We need to like spread the word.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm getting too excited.

[D]

It will be, I think this, you know, when you guys find out who's coming on to Botswana this year, it'll. I think it'll be a. Fun to follow along with because these people are very entertaining and you'll, you'll. It'll make sense as soon as you figure out who.

[A]

But is it like.

[C]

I want to know something.

[A]

Is it like Justin?

[C]

Oh, my gosh. It's like Justin, Andrew and Greg. I'm gonna actually.

[A]

It has to be now.

[C]

Wait, a trio?

[A]

Is it them? Wait, did we just guess because they.

[C]

Were on the same season.

[A]

He can't say Blake was. If it is. If it is Justin, I'm. He would make it. No, honestly, I could not go on that trip because I would laugh. Nonsense, doll.

[C]

Can you imagine the content that's going to come from this trip? I will be absolutely following along. I love how we're like confirming it.

[A]

I know. We're like.

[C]

A trio. It has to be.

[D]

Well, you're gonna find out very soon because we. We are announcing it very, very, very soon.

[A]

So exciting. Legendary.

[D]

And throwing those guys into the mix of like the, you know, we're going out living little, Little tents. Tents. No, no, I'm saying we as in I'm not telling you who. Yeah, living with the rangers and trackers who go through the habituation process. So they're going to be very out of their element, these people.

[C]

And so, so this is going to be very different than the last trip. The last trip was very fun.

[D]

That's a. That's an add on. So we're going to do similar rage to what you did. Different second location of how we flew or. Yeah, we flew into the second location. That private resort or private lodge. Different private lodge. Different area. And it's like one of the most densely populated with leopard is going to be and wild dogs. You didn't get to see wild dogs.

[C]

Last time, but you wanted to see one bad.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Yeah, so we're gonna get that this time. But yeah, then we're doing a. Another three day, four day, like getting in 4x4s, driving into the middle of nowhere. Meeting up with the rangers and living with them boots on the ground, doing their patrols in there. So it'll be. Yeah, it be good to. To see those guys in that. Exciting.

[A]

Wait.

[C]

Okay, wait.

[A]

Before we, like, switch gears, Blake, with what you know about me, which is, like, I don't know how much, probably limited information, but do you think that I would. I would do well in something like this? Like an X, like, kind of similar to what you and Rachel did? Do you think that I would fare well?

[D]

Yeah, I do. I do. And I think that if you. It doesn't take very long, especially if it's just something specific around elephants, where you're getting to live out a dream or you just buy in. And I think once you realize the. How rewarding it can be when you're actually doing something that's impactful at the same time and it's not right and you're getting involved, it's. I don't know how to explain it aside from, like, you just have to do it, but it's. You just buy in and. And, you know, you're there to. Usually once in a lifetime, you're probably not going back. And, yeah, it depends, you know, what challenges we throw at you. And we would make sure we navigate that properly, but, you know, we would know your limits before going in, but at the same time, we would challenge. We will challenge your comfort zone a little bit. And I think after, no matter what you walk with and be like, I'm so glad I did that, or I'm so, you know, you. You'll be just fine.

[A]

I feel like if Ds there, if.

[D]

Ds there, you know, you. You know.

[A]

Yeah, but. Oh, perfect. He said that one thing which is, like. Which is buying in, and I'm like, I feel like I do well with stuff like that. It might take me, like, at least 24, 48 hours, however long. But it's like, once I can see or just, like, I'm immersed in it, it's like I'm there and, like, obviously always after, I'm like, yeah, this is the best thing I've ever done for myself, so I think I would. Would do well. We'll say.

[D]

We'll say we take care of everything. We take. We took, like, Rachel, like, we just. We handle everything. There's nothing you to really worry about at all. And, yeah, we set you up for. We set you up for success, so I would not be worried at all.

[A]

Perfect. Okay. Well, then it's happening.

[C]

I can't wait. I love how we Plan this all on Bachelor happy hour.

[A]

I know my hundred minutes plan. Yay. We'll do like a pre honeymoon. Since he said May, I'm like, oh, this is quick.

[C]

I need you guys on this trip.

[A]

No, I have to, like, I'm literally telling dawn, as soon as I'm done.

[C]

Tell him in the airpod.

[A]

Yeah. Hello, Charity.

[B]

You're.

[D]

You're in New York.

[A]

Yeah, I am. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay.

[D]

Yeah, we can make it happen. I'm sure.

[B]

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[C]

After we planned Charity's honeymoon, now we're gonna quiz you. What's the scariest experience you've ever had?

[D]

Scariest experience I've ever had.

[C]

Like drowning one. Have you talked about that?

[D]

Oh, yeah, that was. Yeah, that was not. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, man, I'm so sorry.

[D]

Yeah, well, yeah, that's a bit of a long story, but really quickly. Essentially, I came back from Kenya, was really, really sick, and had the flu, and you're not supposed to be diving at depth when you're not to supposed coming back from a sickness. Have brand new fins, are really, really long. I hadn't dove earlier that day, and I was wanting to get one good big dive in, and I did not realize how far down I dove on. This was free diving, so no, no, no tanks.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And by accident, not realizing that, I went down 70ft diving with sharks.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

And when I went down all the way down there, I remember turning around. The reason I realized it was so deep was that I saw the bottom and I'm like, I've never seen the bottom. Here is 100ft of water. And so when I turn back around, I remember how far, like, the sun was coming through the light, and the people at the top of the Water just look like ants. So I dumb start panicking a little bit. Not that I was out of air, but realizing I'm deep here and gravity starts to take you after 30ft and pull. So I started fighting my way back up, expending a lot of energy and realizing then you're getting the gulp feeling.

[A]

Of like, oh, man.

[D]

And you're like running out of air. And then I don't remember anything. About 15ft from the surface and I remember feeling really woozy. I was coming up and then I don't remember anything that I popped up to the top and was face down and my body was convulsing. It was like a jackhammer because I had no oxygen left my body. So I very close to having a blood. A blackout, which has killed a lot of people. I was very fortunate that somebody was right at the top to be able to flip me over on my back and get me out of the water, essentially. But, yeah, terrifying in that, you know, a multitude of factors can play into these scenarios. And yeah, you know, you really got to think these things through. But it was a combination of unfortunate, unforeseen and not. Yeah. So I've learned my lesson there. I'm way more careful.

[A]

No, that is very scary. First of all, thank you for sharing that. I mean, I can't imagine that would actually. I would probably never go back in the water. I know I would never again. Yeah. No. Oh, my God. That's. That's scary.

[C]

You need to come on one time and tell the truly story. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. It was wild. Learned a lesson, but. And I'm just. Yeah, way more. We work. I think I can do anything, you know, so, like, I just, like, I'll handle whatever. I'm fine. I'm fine. And then sometimes you, you know, you do things like that. And there's other wildlife issue, like interactions and things.

[C]

Wildlife interaction.

[D]

I had to. I mean, there's been. Been a few, I think. Yeah, there's been. There's been a few, but more so. One was a part of the ranger program that I took into my certification, South Africa, which was. Which was scary where there's a poaching incident where I was like outposted in the. In the. In the middle of nowhere, basically with a ranger that speaks Xhosa. That. We were both in the program together and we didn't. He didn't speak English very well and he. He had firearm. But we were there because Ryan would just got poached like two days before. So we were doing like an outpost and we were in the middle of nowhere, in the dark. And I remember we heard footsteps nearby, which we were supposed to, like, radio. It was like, there's, like, little. Like there's a. But there's others.

[C]

You have to talk about all these. No, literally, so interesting.

[A]

Full exclusive interview. Like, we have all the time in the world. Because I. I'm so fascinated.

[C]

But I tell the full story. It is like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's crazy.

[A]

Oh, my God. But I feel like. Yeah, like you said, you have that person. Like, you have to have that type of personality with, like, the things that you're doing. Like, there's no way. I'm Like, I would have one incident. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I love the world, but I gotta go. Like, I'm out. Like, that's it for me. Like, we're good. Okay. Yeah. Okay, let me see.

[C]

Like, let's give them an easy one.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Most traumatic thing you've ever been through. Would you ever go back to paradise?

[A]

Okay, I want to ask this one. This one's probably something Rachel already knows, but is there an animal or. If there is, like, which animal are you most afraid of? He probably is, like, primates.

[D]

Primates, chimps. There's something. There's a few animals that make me worried only because I've never necessarily interacted with them and because their intelligence is so high that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, there was an instance where there's a spider monkey that scalped somebody. You know, this. These are the incidents. Like, so, for example, right. You can kind of understand and read behavior of like a lion, for example, right? That, you know, sure, they can act on emotion or be triggered in some ways, but there's typical behavior that you can typically pick up on in scenarios. And you can gauge, you know, red, yellow, know, you know, green signs of, like, when you're safe, technically, even on foot. But when it comes to primates, and you're thinking about the. They're almost like children. So imagine that a. That's how I take it. A child. You take something from it, Right. Freaks out. Right. But this child is. Actually has something that is extremely strong. And if they want something, they're going to take it back and they can really hurt you. And so because you can read behavior, yes, it can be a thing of. I stepped on its tail by accident in this instance, right. And it wants to come back and. And bite. But this woman actually tried to keep it away and kick by accident. She went back into town. This is in the Amazon in the middle of nowhere at this sanctuary in the middle of nowhere. She came back into town for two days. That spider monkey waited for her to come back on ship as soon as it saw her. Two days later, held a grudge, attacked her and, and you know, but like chunk of her hair gone. So. Primates, extremely intelligent, incredible animals. But I think, because I don't know enough about them and there's. They're more complex than, you know, reading an animal based on instinct or, you know, natural behaviors. There's other things that can trigger those animals. Bam. Ocean or whatever it is. And so there's just something I don't. Something that makes me more respect them more.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Didn't you have a spider monkey thing? Something happened with the spider monkey with you?

[D]

No, I've had great instances interactions, but.

[C]

Yeah, you've had like some story about the spider monkey.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, I just had. Yeah. No. Oh, oh, capuchin. No, I got attacked by a capuchin monkey in the, in the wild. Yeah. It was on the trail in front of me. And I was warned, don't go through this region of the Amazon on the way through this other building. And I had seen spider monkeys up in the tree. So I went over by myself to look at them. Capuchin jumps onto the trail in front of me on the ground. And it's being all cute, kind of walking up to me, like turning its head and doing like this. And I'm thinking, this is, this is cute. And we had worked because they are partly habituated in the fact they just had a soft release from this sanctuary to be rewilded again. And so I'm like, okay, I think this, this specific individual, I don't know who it is, but it must recognize me from maybe yesterday or feel comfortable, princess. And it was. Started going, it was going like this up like towards me, like, so I, I naturally put my hand down. He didn't. He. He. With his hand, he grabbed my fingers. He came up onto my hip and I'm like, alone. And I'm like, this is kind of wild. I know there's no one around. Came up onto my shoulder as soon as he came up onto my shoulder. And we were taught this in the interactions with the other capuchins, just be careful. You need to make sure you cover your ears right away if something starts, because they know your vulnerability and they can rip that thing off.

[A]

Off.

[D]

So out of nowhere, not even. Yeah, out of nowhere, two more jumped from trees above me that did not know where there landed on my shoulders. I covered my ears right away and and boom. What? Just exactly what they said. One. One bit into my. My thumb here, and then I'm a bit into the back of my neck. And I didn't freak. I just stayed calm.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

And then so. Good, because I didn't know what to do, so I just, like, yelled for a buddy of mine who was in a different building further away, and he came out and just, like, started clapping, and then he just kind of took off. But, yeah, then I had, like. Yeah. So, like. And I forgot. I forgot about that story. But, yeah, there's primates as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[A]

We just. I'm like, I'm learning. This is like. Yeah, I'm learning so much. I could listen to, like, I know all day long. I'm like, this is like PBS kids for me.

[C]

Truly, you are a Disney princess. Like, these animals just, like, sense that he has good intentions, and they know.

[A]

I'm like, we need a. We need a show for Blake. Like, that's. That's next. He needs a little educational education. Yeah, Like, I would. I would listen.

[D]

Maybe one day. We're working on some things, so.

[C]

All right. Well, speaking of that, would you ever do another dating reality show or are you retired?

[A]

I. I mean, that's a long pause.

[D]

No, I mean, I. I've. It's been. It's been three now that I've said no. 2 within the last, obviously, from last year. And there's two this year, Rachel, you know about that. Well, at least one of them, I think, anyways, I think would have to be a very specific kind one. And the right timing, I think right now would be challenging to pull off because I know. I know I wouldn't be the. I know I wouldn't. I could go on fake it. I could go on and fake and go through the motions of it, but I know I would probably be a shitty boyfriend outside of it, knowing how much travel and stuff. And so knowing that I know I would fail that person coming out of the show in this current moment. And so if I know that, then I would go in playing the game, and if I'm going to go in, I lean in, I do it right. I want to do it right. And actually, yeah, you know, so, yes and no. It really depends on timing, what show. But likely, you know, going in a different direction. Probably not a dating one, and maybe leaning into the stuff that I actually care about and. And, you know, more of the wildlife adventure type stuff, if anything, or a competition or something different, you know.

[A]

Yeah, I respect that.

[D]

Oh, what would you did you say would I ever be.

[C]

Would you ever be the Bachelor?

[D]

Rachel?

[C]

I'm just asking.

[D]

No, again, I think it's a. It's a. It's a. It would be a timing.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Thing. It would be a timing thing. And I think the other thing there is. I think that if that was going to happen, people would know who I am, what they're signing up for. It's not me as random coming into a. You know, say it was perfect match where they. Who's this guy? Would you travel? Explain it to me. I think people. If, you know you're announced is that people are going to know. Is this life for me. I see how much he's. You know, and they're going to. So there's more of, like. I think they would be more understanding. Understanding. I think the challenge is people don't really understand me that well, and I don't do a great job of. Yeah. So, mate. It would have to be the right year, and it would have to make sense. And I think a lot of things have to come to line up, and I just. So. I don't anticipate that ever happening.

[A]

That's such a mature answer. I'm like, blake, I'm like, if we were to ask anybody else. Yeah. Tomorrow. And it's like knowing damn well that they have no business doing any of that. So I respect that. I actually really respect. Did. Like, that's a true, honest, genuine response. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, that. Well, listen, you. You're not doing yourself any favors. You're wasting time. You're wasting your time now. And, yeah, like, listen, people have a hard time, as is in the dating world. And so if you're going to be the Bachelor, you have to be com. You guys know, you have to be completely in the right mindset, right spot in life. And, you know, if there's any, you know, red flags, things you're unsure of, you know, that's all going to come out in the wash in the end. Because the hardest part is actually the after, I think probably. Right.

[B]

And so.

[D]

And so. And so that. That life. Yeah, listen, you owe it to somebody. If they're going to be coming to spend their time and give you and devote it to you during the whole process, you better be fucking ready to give them that on the outside when the time means the most and actually come through as the person you say you're going to be. And right in this exact moment, I know it would be extremely challenging for me to do that unless they could come along with me with every Adventure. But then I'm taking away from their life, you know, so they. They'd have. There's have to be a real good understanding of. Of both parties inside.

[A]

So I love this. Okay. Blake is our next bachelor. We'll have to get a cast that is purely devoted to his lifestyle.

[C]

I'm so here for this.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's so much. There's so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think it could be a really fun season because I would like to see them, like, imagine the challenges. Like, can you put up a tent?

[A]

Yeah. I think he's like, he has, like, the perfect, like, lifestyle to, like, honestly curate an entire season around. You know, it's really. We already know what the headline would be, the theme. Like, it's just. Yeah. Like, finding someone that obviously fits the mold for yalls lives and compatibility. But I think it would be really fun. So I'm putting your name in the hat. I've seen. I have no powers, but I'm putting. I'm putting your name in that.

[C]

People talk about Robert Irwin being the bachelor if he can.

[A]

We got one here.

[C]

We have a Robert Irwin here.

[A]

Robert can do the one in Australia. We love Robert, but we'll take Blake.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah. I would definitely be wild. It would definitely be wild. Some of the destinations could be a.

[A]

Lot of fun if that ever same. Yeah. But like, and me and Rachel could come and host a little date.

[D]

There you go. There's your elephant right there.

[A]

There's my elephant one.

[C]

She's on the elephant. Date the elephant one on one.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I love it. Well, Blake, thank you so much for being here. We loved having you. We would love to have you again to hear all your stories. But thanks for being here.

[A]

Yeah. So much fun. Obviously, chatting and this being our first official chat, but we have so many more to come because we have a whole honeymoon to plan with you. So you better hold your word. You better hold your word. Like, I'm not kidding. You can't tease elephants with me and.

[D]

Not make the only thing on the page. Just the only thing on the page.

[A]

I love that. All right, well, that is all for today's episode. Again, Blake, thank you so much. We loved having you. And to all of our listeners, be sure to subscribe. We have way more fun interviews coming your way with Bachelor Nation Faves.

[C]

Bye.

[D]

Bye.

[C]

We still don't have an ending.

[A]

Yeah, we don't. We're like, figured it out. Bye Bye. Bye. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.