EXCLUSIVE: CK & Monica: A NASCAR Connection | Golden Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour: Golden Hour

Episode: EXCLUSIVE: CK & Monica: A NASCAR Connection
Date: December 23, 2025
Hosts: Kathy and Susan
Guests: CK & Monica Brewer

---

Overview

This warm, lighthearted episode of "Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour" spotlights the blossoming romance between Bachelor Nation alums CK (from Jones's season and Bachelor in Paradise) and Monica Brewer (from Mel's season). Hosts Kathy and Susan dive into the duo's unique love story, from their first DM exchange to navigating long-distance, meeting each other's families, and contemplating a future together—all with the usual Bachelor humor and candor. The conversation is rooted in authenticity, offering listeners an inside look at how two beloved contestants found unexpected connection after the cameras stopped rolling.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. How CK and Kathy Became Friends

• [04:43] CK and Kathy recall meeting nearly a year ago at a Carmel golf tournament.
  • “I think my first words to you were zip it. And it sparked a lifelong friendship.” – CK [04:43]
• CK first noticed Kathy’s outfit, leading to a friendly bond.
  • Kathy jokes, “Any guy that pays a compliment to a woman about how she’s dressed must be a good guy.” [05:05]

2. Introducing Monica Brewer

• [06:09] Monica shares her background: 63 years old, Huntsville, Alabama, mother of four, grandmother of five, and Delta Air Lines flight attendant.
  • “I am Monica Brewer. I’m 63 years old. I live in Huntsville, Alabama. I am the mother of four children and five, as of November 25, five grandchildren.” – Monica [06:09]

3. CK & Monica’s First Contact: The DMs

• [06:51] Monica reveals CK "slid into her DMs" after her season aired.
  • “He slid into my DMs.” – Monica [06:51]
• CK clarifies, saying he, “kicked the door down and jumped in there. I’m CK and I’m here to whisk you off.” [09:23]
• Monica admits initial skepticism, didn't even know who he was at first [10:58].

4. Sparks Fly: Early Connection

• CK intended to wish Monica well but quickly confessed he didn’t want Mel to pick her on the show [07:12].
• Both share playful banter about CK’s persistence and Monica’s initial one-word reply: “Okay.” [09:49]
• Monica reciprocates after leaving the show, turning a friendly DM into hours-long phone calls [18:57].

Notable Quote

• CK: “I poured my heart out to her and gave her this heartfelt message. And you know what her response was? It was just, ‘okay.’ And I thought, well, wait a minute.” [09:49]

5. Why They’re Drawn to Each Other

• [11:45, 17:11, 18:57]
  • Monica is attracted to CK’s passion, kindness, and faith.
    • "Specifically, I love his passion. He's passionate about everything he does." – Monica [11:37]
  • CK values Monica’s beauty, faith, resilience, and the fact that they’re age-appropriate matches.
    • “She’s age appropriate, and she’s 63. I’m 63. We share the same fundamental faith...She’s had hardships...and still has this glow about her...that’s hella compelling.” – CK [17:11]

6. Gift Giving & Humor

• CK gives Monica a rose necklace with diamonds, poetic recompense for her not getting a rose on the show.
  • “I got this because he couldn’t stand to see me not get a rose.” – Monica [11:54]
• Monica shares she ‘acquired’ CK’s Gucci watch; both joke about Gucci purses as the next step—playfully encouraged by the hosts.
  • CK: "She has the Gucci glasses. Now she’s got my Gucci watch. The only thing missing is a Gucci purse, baby." [36:44]

7. Navigating Long-Distance Love

• [21:56-22:47] Their relationship is bi-coastal: Monica in Alabama, CK in California.
  • Monica: “It’s a long distance relationship.” [21:56]
  • CK wants to end the distance, aiming for Monica to relocate to California by Q1 of 2026.
    • "I want to be able to see her, I want to be able to spend unlimited time. So part of that is her moving to California at some point early in Q1, 2026." – CK [22:25]
• Monica, as a flight attendant, is open to changing her work base to L.A. but may commute if necessary [23:11].

8. Family Introductions & Holidays

• [20:12] Both have met each other's families, spending Thanksgiving together in California with CK's "entire crazy family."
  • “We spent Thanksgiving dinner with my entire crazy family, even the crazy ones.” – CK [20:17]
• Monica's mother and CK’s mother have both met their significant other.
  • "My mother loves her to pieces." – CK [20:50]

9. Bachelor Nation’s Reaction

• Friends from the franchise are overwhelmingly supportive [25:04].
  • Monica: “Everyone is super excited for us...everyone loves him.” [25:04]
• CK leans into support and advice from his Bachelor friends, sharing a heartfelt story about realizing his deep feelings for Monica, culminating in an emotional pep talk from Mark Anderson.
  • “Mark spent 30 minutes on the phone with me. Had me crying like a baby...ck, this is what we live for. You’re falling in love. Just fall. Just lean into it as a gun. Let it go.” – CK [32:24]

10. Future Plans

• Aside from moving to the same city, both are taking things step by step, with hosts joking about moving in and sharing rent [23:05-24:05].
• Despite the teasing, both stress enjoying the process and building a solid partnership.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sending the First DM:

  • Monica: “He slid into my DMs.” [06:51]
  • CK: “I kicked the door down and jumped in there.” [09:23]

• On Forming a Connection:

  • “We sometimes stayed up six to eight hours at night talking on the phone.” – Monica [18:57]

• On Matching Values:

  • CK: “We share the same fundamental faith and belief from a Christian standpoint. She’s raised her children, so she’s positioned to move forward with a partner." [17:11]

• On Bachelor Nation Friend Support:

  • “Just lean into it... you’re falling in love. Just fall.” – Mark Anderson recounted by CK [32:24]

• On Family & Holidays:

  • “We spent Thanksgiving dinner with my entire crazy family—even the crazy ones.” – CK [20:17]

• On Gift Giving:

  • “She has the Gucci glasses; now she’s got my Gucci watch. The only thing missing is a Gucci purse, baby.” – CK [36:44]

---

Important Timestamps

• [03:05] - Show intro and excitement about the episode
• [04:43] - CK and Kathy recount how their friendship started
• [06:09] - Monica introduces herself
• [06:51] - CK’s initial “slide” into Monica’s DMs
• [09:23] - CK dramatically “kicked the door down” into Monica’s inbox
• [11:37] - Monica describes what drew her to CK
• [17:11] - CK describes his affection for Monica
• [18:57] - Monica recalls late-night conversations that strengthened their bond
• [20:12] - Meeting families and spending Thanksgiving together
• [21:56] - Long-distance relationship challenges
• [22:47] - Plans for Monica to relocate to California
• [25:04] - Friends and Bachelor Nation’s reactions
• [32:24] - Support and encouragement from Bachelor Nation men
• [36:44] - CK jokes about Monica accumulating his Gucci accessories

---

Closing Sentiments

The episode ends with hosts and guests exchanging mutual admiration, laughter, and excitement for the future:

• “Your smile, Monica, is radiant. It has everything. And CK, you too. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you smile like this… So I love this. It was great having you on the podcast. I hope 2026 brings you both just love, happiness and health.” – Kathy [37:43]
• “We’re golden, but we’re not dead. So keep doing [your thing].” – CK [35:01]

---

Episode Takeaway

CK and Monica’s relationship is a testament to surprising, genuine connection in midlife—infused with laughter, supportive friends, and determination to build something lasting. Their playful banter, thoughtful reflections, and joyful attitude—blended with “Bachelor Nation” camaraderie—underscore the importance of resilience, faith, and the magic of love found off-screen.

---

For full episodes, find Bachelor Happy Hour’s Golden Hour on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, or wherever you listen!

Transcript

[Monica Brewer]

This is an I heart podcast.

[Susan]

Guaranteed human.

[Commercial Announcer]

Did you know Tide has been upgraded to provide an even better clean in cold water? Tide is specifically designed to fight any stain you throw at it, even in cold butter. Yep. Chocolate ice cream. Sure thing. Barbecue sauce. Tide's got you covered. You don't need to use warm water. Additionally, Tide pods let you confidently fight tough stains with new coldzyme technology. Just remember, if it's gotta be clean, it's gotta be tied.

Okay, time to cut to the chase. Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruises are amazing. Honestly, you should book one. Right now we're talking about kid free cruises to Grand Cayman, Jamaica and Virgin's private beach club in Bimini. No kids, no chaos, just great food, DJs, live music, always something to do. And your cabin, basically a sanctuary. Plus over a thousand in value included Wi Fi soda, 20 plus restaurants and zero hidden fees. I mean, hello. Learn [e-mail] or contact your travel advisor. Ever been at a pharmacy counter and your mind goes blank when the pharmacist asks any questions? That's why you need to listen to beyond the Script from CVS Pharmacy and iHeartMedia. Starting January 14th. Hosted by Dr. Jake Goodman, each episode features real conversations with CVS pharmacists, the health experts you see most, breaking down the questions you wish you'd asked from which meds may not mix well to what vaccines you need before a big trip. They'll bust myths, decode trends, and share practical advice you can actually use. Listen to beyond the script on the iHeartRadio app and Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[CK]

The holidays are already in full swing. The lights are up, you got good people, good food and good vibes. And there to help keep that energy going is Sprite Winter Spice Cranberry with that crisp cranberry flavor with a smooth winter spice twist. It's the drink that livens up game nights, gift exchanges, or just catching up in the kitchen with a burst of holiday flavor. It's a seasonal favorite, but it's only here for a limited time, so grab it while you can. Sprite Winter Spice Cranberry Sprite Obey your thirst.

[Commercial Announcer]

We know no one's journey is the same. That's why Delta SkyMiles moves with you. From earning miles on reloads for coffee runs, shopping and things you do every day to connecting you to new experiences. A SkyMiles membership fits into your lifestyle, letting you do more of what makes you you. It's more than travel. It's the membership that flies, dines, Streams, rides, and arrives with you. Because when you have a membership that's as unique as you are, there's no telling where your journey will take you next. Learn [e-mail] SkyMiles.

[Kathy]

Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us. We're so excited to be back. How are you today, Susan?

[Susan]

I'm so good. So good. So excited about today's guest, too. Oh, boy. Today we have two very special guests.

[Kathy]

Please, drum roll. Drum roll.

[Susan]

Our brand new golden lovebirds, CK And Monica B. Hi, you two. Welcome to Golden Hour.

[Kathy]

How are you, Monica?

[Susan]

Can we stop calling you Monica B Yet, or should we continue the monic.

[Kathy]

Can we call you just Monica?

[Monica Brewer]

Well, you can. Yes, please. You can call me Monica.

[Kathy]

Okay. Can I both say, look at this.

[Monica Brewer]

Will not let Monica thee die. I think that will be forever.

[Kathy]

That's right. Well, let me just say both of you have great smiles on your face. So there's a whole lot we want to dive in today. Let's get started. And I'm going to lead us off. So for anyone who doesn't remember and how could you forget, CK is from Jones season and as well as the season, this past season of Bachelor in Paradise with me and Monica, otherwise known as Monica B. Is from melt season. So before we get started, before we get started, CK everyone knows, or if they don't, they're about to find out. You and I have become very good friends. So let's tell our listeners how that came to be. So tell everyone. How did you and I become such good friends?

[CK]

Well, we originally met almost a year ago in Carmel at the. At the golf tournament. And we immediately became friends. And I think my first words to you were zip it. And it sparked a. A lifelong friendship. And so for that, I'm very happy and pleased.

[Kathy]

Yeah, that was. That is exactly where we met. And you taught. You said something about the outfit I had on. I don't remember, but you said that you liked the outfit. I and I thought any guy that pays a compliment to a woman about how she's dressed must be a good guy.

[CK]

And Kathy, I was very impressed. I mean, I thought initially, I go, you. You had to spend at least $2,500 on that. You said, CK no, it's 350. So thank you very much.

[Kathy]

The day I spent $2,500 on a pair of slacks is the day I won the lottery. And you'll be the first to know, I promise. No, but then we. And then, of course, we were on. We like to joke. We were on paradise together and CK promised me a date. But then, Monica, I don't know if you know this, when we got there, CK wouldn't talk to me. He just ignored me.

[CK]

I got sick. In all fairness, I got. I think you remember that, Kathy. I got sick and I was just never the same afterwards.

[Kathy]

Uh huh. No, it's a good story. And he's sticking with it.

[CK]

That's right.

[Susan]

Well, you're our friends.

[Monica Brewer]

That's what matters.

[Susan]

And Monica, since this is your first time on our podcast, tell us a little bit about you.

[Monica Brewer]

Yes, I am Monica Brewer. I'm 63 years old. I live in Huntsville, Alabama. I am the mother of four children and five, as of November 25, five grandchildren.

[Kathy]

Congrats.

[Monica Brewer]

I work as a flight attendant for Delta Air.

[Susan]

Congrats.

[Monica Brewer]

Well, thank you. Thank you so much.

[Susan]

And can you tell me how you two met? How did you two meet?

[Commercial Announcer]

Oh.

[Kathy]

Shall I?

[Monica Brewer]

Or do you want to tell me?

[CK]

Susan, first of all, you're going to get two versions of that. So I'm going to give you. Monica's gonna.

[Susan]

Okay, I want both sides.

[CK]

That's right.

[Monica Brewer]

I don't think he likes when I say this because he thinks it sounds sleazy, but he slid into my dms.

[Kathy]

Oh, well, Monica, that begs the question. While he was sliding, what did he say? Look at. He's got a Cheshire. What do you say, Monica?

[Monica Brewer]

He says that he was just wishing me well on the season. That was kind of the first message. But then he says, I'm interested, so I hope Mel does it. See what I see? I hope he doesn't kiss you.

[CK]

Sorry.

[Monica Brewer]

Not sorry. And there was one other thing. Like he did wish me well, saying he hoped that I could go as far as I could, but that I didn't end up with Mel.

[Kathy]

Well, let. Wait, I'm going to tell you, Monica. CK called me and he said, I need to know something.

[CK]

And I said, kathy, go on mute. Kathy, go on mute right now.

[Susan]

Let me hear his version.

[Kathy]

Oh, wait, wait, I'm not going on mute. He called me and he asked me if you had stayed whatever week it was. And of course I knew that you hadn't. That you were gone, that he hadn't chosen you. And I said, I. I can't answer that. Ck, you know, you. No, come on, Kathy, you're my friend, tell me. And I, of course I did not tell him. And I said, you know what? You're just gonna have to wait out. So, all right now, ck, what's your story?

[Susan]

Okay. CK Tell me.

[CK]

So, so Susan, here's the truth of the matter, right? So Kathy said, CK I. I asked her, did Monica get the first impression? Rose. And she wouldn't tell me. And I knew it wasn't. If it wasn't Monica, it was Jerry. And I got confused. And so for two months, I swear, I mean, I'm just stressing out. She got the first impression, Rose. She's probably gonna end up with him. And then you and Kathy go on the program and you tell Monica, just kiss him. Kiss him. And I'm in my living room saying, no, don't kiss him. What are you doing?

[Susan]

You're like, I want to meet this woman.

[CK]

That's right. I can't do that. She's kissing Mel.

[Susan]

So that's so exciting. That's more exciting than being on the show. You sitting there watching, going, you're hoping nobody touches her. Because that's right.

[Kathy]

Okay. Monica is gorgeous. I mean, she really is. Monica, you are simply beautiful. We all know that. Other than that CK make me happy woman. Don't tell me it was simply her beauty what attracted you to Monica.

[CK]

Well, first and foremost, I'll get to that. Kathy. But the way I really met her is that I did. I. I didn't slide into her DMs. I. I kicked the door down and jumped in there. The door down? Susan said, I kicked the door down. I said, I'm CK and I'm here to whisk you off. So that's kind of what happened. And then I poured my heart out to her and gave her this heartfelt message. And you know what her response was? It was just, okay. And I thought, well, wait a minute.

[Susan]

Okay, yeah, Monica.

[Monica Brewer]

At least I responded, oh, well, yeah.

[Kathy]

You know, she's a woman of few words. I mean, she's. She said, okay, you know, shoot your shot. Do it. So wait, TK I want to know because you and I Talked for the 10 minutes you were in paradise. You. Did you ever think that you were going to date someone from Bachelor. Bachelor Nation?

[CK]

No, I, I did not. Because I. I just didn't think that there would ever be the kind. The type of connection that I look for. And, you know, you and I talked, Kathy. And like, I'm positioned to look for my. Forever. Forever. Right. Like I'm. I'm making that a. A purpose and a point.

[Kathy]

You know, he. Monica, I have to tell you, every time. CK and I. CK Used to call me all the time. You know how I knew he met someone? He stopped calling. I used chitchat. With me talk to about.

[Susan]

Obviously he was cute. Sliding or jumping into your dm? What did you see about that intrigued you that you wanted to know more?

[Monica Brewer]

Well, initially I didn't know who he was, so. Okay, I. After I was off the show, I said, well, let me, let me circle back and see and look into it. So I actually reached out to him after that point and we started to connect. But, well, on the show, you know, they ask all the time, what are you looking for in a mate? And of course I want someone God fearing, someone family orientated. Check, check. Someone kind, someone who's nice to me. Check, check. But specifically, I love his passion. He's passionate about everything he does.

[Kathy]

Smile on his. Whether it's.

[Susan]

I know he makes you laugh.

[Monica Brewer]

Does he make you job or his family or me?

[Kathy]

Has he bought you any nice gifts yet? What'd you get for Christmas?

[Monica Brewer]

Did you see this?

[Susan]

Oh, it's beauty.

[Monica Brewer]

This is a rose with diamonds.

[CK]

Oh.

[Monica Brewer]

And I got this because he couldn't stand to see me not get a rose. So this is.

[Susan]

Oh.

[Monica Brewer]

This is, this is like. This is like first date.

[Kathy]

Wait, I want to know, man. I want you to know this. This podcast is all about the two of you. One. Except for this. Where the hell is my gift? Ck, I've been your friend longer than she.

[Commercial Announcer]

Okay, listen, if you're even thinking about a vacation, I've got four words for you. Virgin Voyages, Caribbean Cruises. Because these cruises, they are totally next level. Honestly, you should book one right now to top line it. Beautiful destinations, best food at sea, and luxury that will make you wonder why you ever tolerated buffets and screaming children. You heard that, right? It's kid free. And just thinking about that is relaxing. We're talking about amazing destinations like Grand Cayman, Jamaica and Puerto Rico. Virgin even has its own private beach club in Bimini. I mean, come on. Then there's the food. There are so many different options. All of them are quite literally multi award winning. And with over a thousand bucks of luxury inclusions, the value is ridiculous. Wi Fi soda, 20 plus legit restaurants, group workouts and entertainment. No surprise charges, no nickel and diming. Just good times. They've got DJs, theme parties, live music. Something's always going on. And when you're ready to relax, your cabin is your sanctuary. Ocean views, private terrace, signature red hammock. Go check it out@virgin voyages.com or hit up your travel advisor. You deserve this.

Okay, so question. Are you one of those people that starts your holiday shopping in like July?

[CK]

July.

[Commercial Announcer]

I mean, no, never. Like, I like to shop. Actually, I like to shop on Christmas Eve because I find it to be a little more festive.

But you, like, start decorating right after Halloween?

No, after Thanksgiving. Okay, that's different. That's different. Halloween? No, not Halloween.

You know, I consider myself to be a pretty good gift giver. I've got my list and I've checked.

It twice, probably three times. She takes the holidays very seriously.

I can't help it, you know, I love finding the perfect gifts for everyone. And Walmart has all the top brands. Nespresso, Sonos, Nintendo.

Nintendo at Walmart. Who knew?

I know. And more. All of your shopping in one place.

How much more shopping? Oh, boy.

Just saying. Get all the brands everyone loves at Walmart. Head to Walmart.com or download the Walmart app to get all your gifts. This season, 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000. This is where mindset comes in. Someone will be eliminated.

Pressure is coming down. Trainer games On Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com no one's journey is the same. That's why Delta SkyMiles lets you do it your way. From earning miles on reloads for coffee runs, shopping, and things you do every day to connecting you to new places and experiences. A SkyMiles membership fits into your lifestyle, letting you do more of what makes you you. It's more than travel. It's the membership that flies, dines, streams, rides, and arrives with you. Every great journey deserves a great story. And when you have a membership that's as unique as you are, there's no telling how your story will unfold or where that journey will take you next. SkyMiles is the membership that will be here for all your big and small moments. The membership that's there for every solo adventure or family trip. The membership that comes with the power of partnership from brands you love. The membership that moves with you. Learn [e-mail] SkyMiles Big things are happening at your local CVS. Extra big. So hurry on over because extra big deals are here. These are deals so extra that they absolutely cannot be missed. And every two weeks, there's going to be more. So you've got to keep coming back so you can keep on saving on all the brands and products you and your family use every day. And speaking of saving, extra care is the way to Save at cvs. So use your extra care card to unlock savings every time you shop. And if you're not a member yet, now is the time to join. And the best part, it's completely free. Just sign up online or in store and you'll start saving instantly. And always be sure to check the CVS Health app for deals and savings. Visit your local CVS store or cvs.com extrabigdeals to shop this week's deals and stock up on your favorite products.

[Susan]

What is your favorite part about each other? I'm asking you both, whoever wants to go first, what is your favorite part? CK about?

[CK]

I'll take it first. Susan, that. For me, that is a softball question, because there are so many redeeming qualities about Monica that really kind of set me off. Right. For me, in my mind, as a man, to say, that's the one. You know, first and foremost, she's age appropriate, and she's 63. I'm 63. And I think that's ideal. We share the same fundamental faith and belief from a Christian standpoint. She's raised her children, so she's positioned to move forward with a partner. And she's had hardships and difficulties and challenges in her life, and she's overcome that and still has this glow about her. And I think that for me, as a man, that's hella compelling. So, you know, it's that and other things, I think that really sort of sparked.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but you. That is so sweet to get. But. But I'm. I'm the realist here. That's all lovely. Yeah, but you didn't know any of that when you reached into DMs. It was her beauty. Just admit it, and we can move on.

[CK]

Okay, so if you can just let me tell this. So we, the men, we were in Las Vegas, right on our reunion. And I think it in that day when we're at Topgolf, that the women, the 24 women, came across the screen. And I was at the bank with my golf club. And Chalk said, ck, you gotta come look at this one. And I said, no, no, not now, Chalk. I'm really busy. And finally he came and he drugged me over there. And when I laid my eyes on her, I said, that's the one. And. Yeah.

[Monica Brewer]

Oh, yeah.

[Kathy]

You know, that happened to me yesterday.

[Susan]

All right, this is kind of exciting. Okay, now you're Monica.

[Kathy]

So I got a few questions. Well, go ahead, Monica.

[Susan]

You this. Yeah, go ahead. What was it for you that drew you to this man right here? I mean, it wasn't just the dm. It's the first look when you first see each other. Tell me from there. Right.

[Monica Brewer]

Of course. He's very handsome. And I didn't know who he was because I, I wasn't really into the Bachelorette that season. So I went back and I saw him and I thought he was very handsome. So I doubled back to the, to the dm and instead of just saying, okay, I had a full message this time and I left my phone number. So we started to talk via text and the phone. And we have a lot of good conversations. We sometimes stayed up six to eight hours at night talking on the phone. Very good company the next day, but it's fun.

[Kathy]

So wait, have you guys been talking? Yeah. Have you guys met each other in person?

[Monica Brewer]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Several times.

[CK]

So Kathy, Kathy, when you ask Monica where she, where she's residing, she said Huntsville. And I know from having gone there one time that it's not Huntsville, it's Huntsville. So you're right. It's Huntable.

[Monica Brewer]

That was good.

[Kathy]

Huntsville, Alabama. So you've both been to each other's homes, if you will, each other's cities to visit each other?

[CK]

Yes.

[Susan]

How about.

[Kathy]

What about the holidays? Yeah, what about the holidays?

[Susan]

Are you spending together or.

[CK]

Well, so Monica, let me take a portion of that. So we spent Thanksgiving, a portion of Thanksgiving with her family that lives here in Southern California. And then we spent Thanksgiving dinner with my entire crazy family, even the crazy ones. So I said, I want all the crazy ones to come. So you know what you're getting into here.

[Monica Brewer]

So they're not crazy.

[Kathy]

They're loving people.

[Susan]

But that's big that you're introducing each other to your families. Oh, that's important.

[Kathy]

Wait, CK, have you met Monica's kids and her, her family?

[CK]

I met her, her son who lives here, and her extended family and the children, the grandchildren. And of course, she's met a lot of my extended family, and my mother loves her to pieces.

[Kathy]

Okay, so the next question is. The next question is, Monica, I'm going to ask you first. Actually, no, I'm going to ask you. CK First. How would you describe your relationship?

[CK]

Nascar. So it's felt like Monica has to tell me from time to time, ck, it's only been two months, and it really hasn't been two months. It's been just shy of two months. And I told her just last night that it feels like six months, because to her point, we've been talking sometimes two, six, eight hours. And she's very big on Staying connected. And that's her way that she feels loved is text message and respond to my text messages. If I can call, if I call, you pick up the phone, let's have a conversation. And that's the way she feels connected. And I'm getting used to that because I've been flying solo for so long.

[Susan]

What about you, Monica? You need to feel wanted and I get it.

[Monica Brewer]

Well, it's a long distance relationship.

[Kathy]

How long is it going to be? Long distance?

[Susan]

Oh, are we jumping the gun?

[Kathy]

I don't know. They said it's long distance. I said how long is it going to be long distance?

[Susan]

I mean it is pretty far apart. Is one willing to go to the other or vice versa? Half and half.

[Monica Brewer]

Because that is the biggest complication who's traveling, you know, where we're going to meet, where we're going to be. So yeah, we have. Would be easier.

[CK]

I. I don't like the idea of long distance, particularly if I did. If I didn't like her as much as I did, then long distance will be ideal because, you know, there's a buffer. But I want to be able to hear what I want to see her, I want to be able to spend time with her. I want to be able to spend unlimited time. And so part of that is her moving to California at some point early in Q1. 2026.

[Kathy]

Q1. You could tell he's a finance.

[CK]

He means.

[Kathy]

He means first quarter. Which transl. January, February or March for those of you who are not into finance. So wait, Monica, you are a flight attendant. So what if, by the way, congrats. That you guys apparently are going to be living in the same house, home, city, whatever it's going to be. But you're a flight attendant. How's that going to work?

[Susan]

Monica, change your base.

[Monica Brewer]

Oh, change bases. Exactly. That would be ideal. But if I cannot change bases, then I just have to commute back to.

[Kathy]

You're going to have to deadhead back to Atlanta.

[Monica Brewer]

Yes, yes.

[Kathy]

The things we do.

[Monica Brewer]

I would switch bases usually, which sometimes it takes a minute to get into a base, but you know, sometimes it doesn't. So it just depends.

[Susan]

And your airlines. LA is as a hub or. No.

[Monica Brewer]

LA is definitely a house.

[Susan]

Yes, it is.

[Kathy]

It is.

[Monica Brewer]

It's a basic.

[Kathy]

Well, we'll cross the finger. So now let's see. They're moving together. C.K.

[Monica Brewer]

Wait, wait, that's what.

[Kathy]

That's what you said.

[Monica Brewer]

I'm just not in the same house.

[Kathy]

Okay, same city.

[Monica Brewer]

Yes.

[Kathy]

Well, good. So you get to see each other Are you going to cook dinner for him?

[Monica Brewer]

I can't wait. Yes.

[Susan]

Why would you pay your own rent? Why don't you share?

[Kathy]

That's not for you to ask, Susan.

[Susan]

Too soon?

[Kathy]

I don't know. They only been dating for 10 minutes. I think it's a big move that they're moving to the same city. I applaud you guys for taking your time. Monica, I don't know what the hell you're thinking. Cooking for him. That's. I'd make reservations, but that's up to you.

[Monica Brewer]

Well, we make those, too, but, yes, I enjoy cooking.

[Kathy]

Well, okay. So you're both.

[Monica Brewer]

I like to do.

[Kathy]

All right. So you're both in a Bachelor. You're both in Bachelor. I mean, I can do it, but, you know, I prefer not to. So you're both in Bachelor Nation. You're both from different seasons, different times. Bachelor Nation. What did your respective friends in Bachelor Nation think about this? I'm assuming that most people. I mean, you're telling us on our podcast, you're letting the world know that you're together now. But what. Obviously your friends know what has been their reaction?

[Monica Brewer]

Everyone is super excited for us. They've met, of course, CK at after the rose. He met most everybody, and everyone loves him. He's very personable, and they, you know, they witnessed that, and they love him, and so they're excited to see what happens with us.

[Susan]

Who told first? You said Kay or you, Monica. Who told their.

[Kathy]

Their Bachelor?

[Monica Brewer]

I don't know. Kathy.

[Kathy]

I don't know because remember, you.

[Monica Brewer]

I know you know because at before. At Women tell all you approached me about ck.

[Kathy]

He told me to. He told me to. I was doing his spy work for him. And just may I say on national. This podcast, Monica, see if you can make it happen. CK Promised me a fabulous gift, and it's not arrived yet. So if he's a man of his word. If he's a man of his word. Yeah, don't. Don't give me that smile. CK get action. I want action. No, he's.

[Susan]

So Kathy told you.

[Monica Brewer]

She did what? She said she was going, thank you, Monica.

[Kathy]

So here's what happened. CK Literally used to call. We used to laugh and talk, and then he started calling always, Monica this, Monica B. That. I said the same thing, Susan. Can we stop calling her Monica B. I don't think you're dating Monica P. As in Peter. You're dating Monica B. As in Brewer. So anyway, he asked me to.

[Monica Brewer]

He says it every day, daily.

[Kathy]

He told me to find out what you were thinking, it was like, it was like a high school move, you know, hey, sending your friend into the, you know, in the locker room, hey, tell me what she's thinking. I said, yeah, she's in. She's in for it. I think it's. What did your guy friend say?

[Susan]

What a way to make a woman feel good.

[CK]

Yep.

[Susan]

I like your style.

[Commercial Announcer]

Okay, listen, if you're even thinking about a vacation, I've got four words for you. Virgin voyages, Caribbean cruises. Because these cruises, they are totally next level. Honestly, you should book one right now to top line it. Beautiful destinations, best food at sea, and luxury that will make you wonder why you ever tolerated buffets and screaming children. You heard that, right? It's kid free. And just thinking about that is relaxing. We're talking about amazing destinations like Grand Cayman, Jamaica and Puerto Rico. Virgin even has its own private beach club in Bimini. I mean, come on. Then there's the food. There are so many different options. All of them are quite literally multi award winning. And with over a thousand bucks of luxury inclusions, the value is ridiculous. Wi Fi soda, 20 plus legit restaurants, group workouts and entertainment. No surprise charges, no nickel and diming, just good times. They've got DJs, theme parties, live music. Something's always going on. And when you're ready to relax, your cabin is your sanctuary. Ocean views, private terrace, signature red hammock. Go check it [e-mail] or hit up your travel advisor. You deserve this.

Okay, so question. Are you one of those people that starts your holiday shopping in like July?

[CK]

July?

[Commercial Announcer]

I mean, no, never. Like I like to shop. Actually, I like to shop on Christmas Eve because I find it to be a little more festive.

But you, like start decorating right after Halloween?

No, after Thanksgiving. Okay, that's different. That's different. Halloween? No, not Halloween.

You know, I consider myself to be a pretty good gift giver. I've got my list and I've checked.

It twice, probably three times. She takes the holidays very seriously.

I can't help it. You know, I love finding the perfect gifts for everyone. And Walmart has all the top brands. Nespresso, Sonos, Nintendo.

Nintendo at Walmart. Who knew?

I know. And more. All of your shopping in one place.

How much more shopping? Oh boy.

Just saying. Get all the brands everyone loves at Walmart. Head to Walmart.com or download the Walmart app to get all your gifts. This season, 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract worth $250,000. This is where mindset comes in. Someone will be eliminated.

[Kathy]

Pressure is coming down.

[Commercial Announcer]

Trainer Games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com no One's Journey is the same. That's why Delta Sky Miles lets you do it your way. From earning miles on reloads for coffee runs, shopping, and things you do every day to connecting you to new places and experiences, a SkyMiles membership fits into your lifestyle, letting you do more of what makes you you. It's more than travel. It's the membership that flies, dines, streams, rides, and arrives with you. Every great journey deserves a great story. And when you have a membership that's as unique as you are, there's no telling how your story will unfold or where that journey will take you next. SkyMiles is the membership that will be here for all your big and small moments. The membership that's there for every solo adventure or family trip. The membership that comes with the power of partnership from brands you love. The membership that moves with you. Learn [e-mail] SkyMiles Big things are happening at your local CVS. Extra big. So hurry on over because extra big deals are here. These are deals so extra that they absolutely cannot be missed. And every two weeks, there's going to be more. So you've got to keep coming back so you can keep on saving on all the brands and products you and your family use every day. And speaking of saving, extra care is the way to save at cvs. So use your extra care card to unlock savings every time you shop. And if you're not a member yet, now is the time to join. And the best part, it's completely free. Just sign up online or in store and you'll start saving instantly. And always be sure to check the CVS Health app for deals and savings. Visit your local CVS store or cvs.com extrabigdeals to shop this week's deals and stock up on your favorite products.

[Kathy]

CK what did your friends say? The.

[CK]

The guys look, all the guys from Jones season, and we're all very, very, very, very close. And, you know, they, they applauded the relationship. Pascal was, you know, all hands down, as were all the other men. And Jordan, everyone gave me the thumbs up. I will say this, however, when I really start to develop deep feelings for Monica B. I, I struggle with. Okay, who am I going to call to sort of rationalize these Feelings like I'm walking through the aisle of the supermarket and they got the music playing, and if it's a romantic song, I'm standing in the middle of an aisle in the supermarket, and I get home and I'm like, who do I call to rationalize these feelings? I was going to call Pascal, and I thought, no, probably not. So I called Mark Anderson, and Mark spent 30 minutes on the phone with me. Had me crying like a baby, like, ck, this is what we live for. You're falling in love. Just fall. Just lean into it as a gun. Let it go. Yes. And I'm.

[Susan]

I'm really feeling this.

[Kathy]

You're feeling it? I'm freezing. As in frozen.

[CK]

Yeah. So. So we're at dinner the other day, and I told Mark. All of us were at dinner. I told Mark, just for making me cry like that. You're paying for dinner, buddy. I mean, this is.

[Kathy]

Now, how did you get to know Mark so well?

[CK]

Well, you know, during the show, you know, and you all know this. During the show, you're. You're only really close with certain people, right? And then after the show, you know, you start to develop closer friendships as you have intimate conversations. And the one thing I really, really love about the relationship that we have with all the men is that if I call, they typically pick up the phone and they answer.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[CK]

Mark moved here to Southern California, and I wanted to welcome him and talk with him through it and this, that, and the other. So if you ever talk to Mark nowadays, you're going to get another version of Mark because he used to be mannered. And the other day, he's like, these mofos on this freeways out here are just like.

[Susan]

I text him. A couple weeks ago, there was a rumor, you know, the stuff on. On the social media, and I said, is it true that said that they were engaged? And he said, why? Who wants to know? I go, talk to me, Mark. He said, what I read isn't true, but you never know. So I think it's coming. We got to have him on Kathy. Both of them. But we've been asking you guys all the questions. We're going to give it to you. Do you have any questions for Kathy or myself?

[Kathy]

The Neiman Marcus phone number I'm happy to give to you before we hang up.

[Monica Brewer]

So I just want to say that you guys are amazing. You are trailblaz, blazing, setting the. The paths for us, and I just. Thank you. You're everywhere. You're doing the thing, and just. Congratulations. Keep up the good work.

[Kathy]

Thanks, Monica. That's really sweet.

[Monica Brewer]

Thank you.

[CK]

I will echo and double down what Monica just said. I mean, I see the pictures of you all at these different events, and, like, I feel proud that you all dress the way that you do. I mean, I love it. I love the. You know, you're not back in the 80s or 90s or even 2000s. I mean, you're fashionable, you're fashion forward, and you're just out there doing your thing. And I applaud that. I mean, we're golden, but we're not dead. So keep doing.

[Susan]

Yes. Darn right. Somebody just made a comment. I was receiving an award in Las Vegas being an officiate, and it was such an honor. And the dress that the. The designer sent for me to wear, somebody said, you're not 30 anymore, Susan. How could you wear that when 9,000 other comments came in like, you rocked it? You looked elegant. There's always one.

[Monica Brewer]

There's always one.

[Susan]

So we'll never dress like old people, Susan.

[CK]

I will. I will ask you this. So I'm gonna ask Monica B. If she could put her left hand up in front of the camera like this, and there's a story behind what you see on her wrist all the way up.

[Susan]

Monica. Oh, a beautiful watch. A bracelet.

[Kathy]

A bracelet.

[CK]

Yeah. Ask her to tell you about the watch.

[Susan]

Okay.

[Kathy]

Tell us about.

[Susan]

Hey, Monica.

[Kathy]

Tell us about Monica. Our host of this podcast would like us to ask you.

[Monica Brewer]

Well, when I was visiting in California the last time, I just. I saw it on the table and I kept it.

[Susan]

Is this yours, darling? Because it looks good on me, basically.

[Kathy]

Are you saying you took CK's watch?

[Monica Brewer]

It fit.

[Kathy]

Monica.

[Susan]

I have lots of love.

[Kathy]

Monica. I love that. I. If I were you, I'd. The next thing I'd be going through is looking for his American Express card. I have no problem.

[Susan]

Wait, he bought her that beautiful necklace. I love a man that likes to give gifts.

[CK]

I know.

[Monica Brewer]

It wasn't that sweet. That was so thoughtful. This is first date material. Bought it before he even met that.

[CK]

Yeah. Susan. Kathy, here's the real story behind that watch. So what she said is true and that. That's half of it. The other half of it is she has the Gucci glasses. Now she's got my Gucci watch. The only thing missing is a Gucci purse, baby. I mean, so get busy.

[Susan]

Valentine's Day is coming.

[Kathy]

Monica, did you say that the only thing missing's a Gucci purse?

[Monica Brewer]

He said that. Oh, my God.

[Susan]

He knows. So look for it for Valentine's Day. Make sure.

[Kathy]

And you know what, CK I think you can get a better price if you buy two for one.

[Monica Brewer]

Oh, that's right.

[Kathy]

I'll take the other one. Monica, you'll listen, you can have CK he just has to buy me a nice present every once in a while.

[Susan]

Okay, well, Gucci has a brand new style out that I just saw for the summer. It's the big with the white, so I'll take that one.

[CK]

Just saying.

[Monica Brewer]

Oh, wow.

[Susan]

Since we're giving gifts, but you guys are great.

[Kathy]

Thank you. We have had so much fun having you. You are wonderful guests. I. I for one. And you know, C.K. you're a dear friend. I am so happy of you. I know it's going to work out. You are fabulous together. Your smile, Monica, is radiant. It has everything. And CK you too. I don't think I've ever seen you smile. Like a cat weaves ear to ear. You can't even stop yourself. So I love this. It was great having you on the podcast. I hope 2026 brings you both just love, happiness and health.

[CK]

Thank you. I love it.

[Susan]

And we're. Kathy and I are going to be out in LA just for a minute. I'm doing a wedding out there, so maybe we could do dinner or something that night.

[Kathy]

Yeah. Monica, you can cook. Monica, see you in person.

[Monica Brewer]

Yes. Well, not this time I'm not. I don't have a res.

[Kathy]

We'll come to your house and you can leave all the Gucci handbags on the table. We'll just pick the one we want.

[Susan]

We'll just take one. And you know what? Thank you to all the people listening to us. I'm sure you're just as happy for this couple as we are. Make sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes and new guests. Guests coming out all the time and.

[Kathy]

You don't want to miss listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Until next time, have a great week.

[Susan]

Enjoy.

[Commercial Announcer]

Ever been at a pharmacy counter and your mind goes blank when the pharmacist asks any questions? That's why you need to listen to beyond the script from CVS Pharmacy and iHeartMedia starting January 14th. Hosted by Dr. Jake Goodman, each episode features real conversations with CVS pharmacists, the health experts you see most, breaking down the questions you wish you'd asked from which meds may not mix well to what vaccines you need before a big trip. They'll bust myths, decode trends, and share practical advice you can actually use. Listen to beyond the script on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Ten athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000. This is where mindset comes in. Someone will be eliminated.

Pressure is coming down. Trainer Games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainer games.com this is Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels. Sunday mornings I've got my game day ritual, coffee, lucky socks and now new Morning Uncrustable sandwiches.

[Kathy]

It's all about that 12 gram protein.

[Commercial Announcer]

Boost with the new uncrustable Bright eyed berry or up and apple flavors. Bright Eye Berries got a feisty receiver.

[Kathy]

Energy up an apple.

[Commercial Announcer]

Your classic do it all tight end, soft, pillowy, packed with protein and easy enough for Gronk to grab from the freezer.

[Kathy]

Whether you're on the couch, driving to.

[Commercial Announcer]

The tailgate or heading to the locker.

[Kathy]

Room, new Morning Uncrustable Sandwiches are the MVP of snacks.

[Commercial Announcer]

Your new Sunday kickoff ritual starts here with new morning Uncrustable sandwiches packed with 12 grams of protein.

I consider myself to be a pretty good gift giver. I've got my list.

Checked it twice, probably three times. She takes the holidays very seriously.

I can't help it. You know, I love finding the perfect gifts. And Walmart has all the top brands. Nespresso, Sonos, Nintendo, Nintendo at Walmart.

Who knew?

I know. And more.

Get all the brands everyone loves at Walmart. Head to Walmart.com or download the Walmart app to get all your gifts this season.

[CK]

Janice Torres here and I'm Austin Hankwitz. We host the podcast Mind the Small.

[Commercial Announcer]

Business Success Stories produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Intuit QuickBooks for season.

Four to talk to some incredible small business owners.

[CK]

The big thing about working at tech is that it's ever evolving, ever changing. Everyone's a rookie. That's how fast the industry is changing. So what I'm really excited about is to be part of that change. So listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Monica Brewer]

This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.