Gerri: Strong, Sassy, and Sexy | Golden Hour

Summary

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Bachelor Happy Hour | “Gerri: Strong, Sassy, and Sexy” (Golden Hour)

Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour
Hosts: Susan and Kathy (with guest Gerri Flowers)
Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of “Bachelor Happy Hour” features a heartfelt and lively conversation with Gerri Flowers, a standout contestant from the current season of “The Golden Bachelor.” Hosts Susan and Kathy dive into Gerri’s personal journey—her resilience as a widow, mother, and entrepreneur, and her courageous leap back into dating on national TV. The focus is on embracing new chapters, female empowerment, and vulnerability at any age, punctuated by Gerri’s wit and warmth, with playful asides about Bachelor Nation and “Golden Hour” behind-the-scenes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Gerri Flowers: Her Story and Spirit

• Who is Gerri?
  • Mom of three, CEO of a home care agency, and now a Golden Bachelor contestant.
  • Self-described as a giver, listener, and someone “looking for love” who’s always given “150%” to others.
    Quote: “They would say… she’s a giver, she’s a listener. She’s amazing. I mean, wow.” (Jerry Flowers, 05:10)
• Transition to Dating Later in Life
  • Gerri’s husband died at age 47, leaving her to raise three young children.
  • She transparently shares how dating wasn’t a priority because “my investment was my children.”
    Quote: “Dating was not on my radar… these little people needed me.” (Jerry Flowers, 07:18)

2. Family, Loss, and Resilience

• Loss and Single Motherhood
  • Gerri opens up about the loss of not only her husband but also her son.
  • She shares her pragmatic mindset: “I never said, why me. Never said that. Because my philosophy was, why not me?” (07:18)
• Children’s Support
  • Her kids encouraged her to seize this new stage: “Mom, you have given us so much. It is your time.” (08:24)
  • Joyful anecdote about her son noticing she was laughing again when preparing for the show.

3. Making Time for Herself and Embracing a New Chapter

• Refocusing on Herself
  • For the first time in 18 years, Gerri decides to do something for herself, describing the feeling as both freeing and a little ‘selfish’ (in a good way).
    Quote: “Now I can be… selfish. And do something for Jerry… it’s really about me.” (Jerry Flowers, 11:37–11:40)
• Age as Empowerment
  • Gerri reveals she’s about to turn 65 and celebrates it: “I’m freaking proud of you.” (12:40)

4. Prepping for “The Golden Bachelor”

• Keeping It Secret
  • Told only a small circle (including her kids and hairdresser!).
  • Adjusted plans based on her grandson’s birthdate—committed to family first. (19:41)
• First Impressions & Nerves
  • Worried about her hat staying put and not her nerves.
    Memorable moment: “My only thing was that hat. That was the only thing that was making me nervous.” (21:42)
  • Genuine excitement meeting Mel (the Golden Bachelor): “I felt butterflies. Who feels butterflies at 64 years old?” (Jerry Flowers, 21:11)
  • Playful aside about her “body parts talking” to her when feeling chemistry. (21:17)

5. Inside the Mansion: Dynamics, Rooms, and Friendship

• About the Other Women
  • Gerri describes the women as “gorgeous” but stresses self-confidence: “We are all fearfully and beautifully made. So don’t compare yourself.” (21:52)
• Building Bonds
  • Her room was “the party room;” jokes about the smallest room being the most popular.
    Quote: “We were like the party room, to the point the handlers used to say, are you guys OK?” (39:03)
• Friendship & Support
  • Gerri brings a spiritual, supportive role—offering prayers for others (Jeremiah 29). (40:10)
  • Distinct absence of jealousy: made friends and kept peace even when other contestants (like Nicole) were more assertive romantically.

6. Competitiveness, Confidence & the Dating Process

• Healthy Competition
  • Acknowledges there’s “a little competitive” energy, but focuses on self-assurance: “If you’re confident in yourself, he’ll see me.” (46:09)
• Dating in Your 60s
  • Gerri claims it’s “easier” now—less falling for old lines, more directness.
    Quote: “You’re not falling for the lines…you can see through the…BS.” (23:43–23:49)
• Positive View on Reality Romance
  • She and the hosts affirm that the process, even on TV, can foster real connections—overcoming skeptics.
  • Endearing anecdote: “My husband walked down the…hospital going to see a sick patient. I saw him and was like, oh my God, I have got to marry that man.” (46:57)

7. Memorable Moments in the Mansion

• Cheerleading Group Date
  • Fun and chaos with a Paula Abdul group date, switching from athletic gear to cheer outfits.
    “We thought we’re gonna play flag football…We had no idea. So when she came out…it was like, Oh, my goodness.” (30:01)
  • Supportive atmosphere: experienced dancers helping others, camaraderie among women.
• Night One & Rose Ceremonies
  • Surprised by receiving the first impression rose: “Are you kidding me? I was floored. I couldn’t even say…Did he just call my name? Yeah. Really?” (24:09)
  • Confidence after symbolic moments (like Mel’s burgundy suit): “That was my husband’s school, Morehouse College…I got a rose.” (43:18)
• Coping with Eliminations
  • Emotional farewells; Gerri never speculated on who would leave, kept it “about enjoying the moment.” (44:53–45:18)

8. Reflections on the Golden Bachelor Experience

• Growth & Affirmation
  • For hosts Susan and Kathy, and now Gerri, the show brought renewed self-love, confidence, and purpose.
  • Gerri reiterates, “I hope they see that about me…they can do this. Take it one second at a time…and just go and have fun.” (44:20)
• Message for Women at Any Age
  • “We’re strong, sassy, and sexy. That’s us.” (51:51)
  • Joyful message: “It’s not over in your 60s. It’s just beginning, you know, and share that message, and people will love you.” (Susan, 51:31)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On resilience:
  “Why not me?” – Gerri Flowers on her response to life’s adversity. (07:18)
• On family support:
  “Mom, you have given us so much. It is your time.” – Gerri recalls her children’s encouragement. (08:24)
• On romantic chemistry:
  “Who feels butterflies at 64 years old?” – Gerri, when seeing Mel for the first time. (21:11)
• On confidence:
  “If you’re confident in yourself, he’ll see me.” – Gerri on competition in the mansion. (46:09)
• On the show’s value:
  “It’s not over in your 60s. It’s just beginning…” – Susan, affirming life after loss and new beginnings. (51:31)
• Signature phrase:
  “We’re strong, sassy, and sexy.” – Gerri, encapsulating the spirit of the Golden Hour cast. (51:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:24 – Gerri introduces herself and her background
• 07:18 – Discussing widowhood, loss of her son, and resilience
• 08:24 – Children encourage Gerri that it’s “her time”
• 11:37 – Admitting it’s finally about herself
• 12:40 – Owning her age with pride
• 19:41 – Preparing for the show; keeping it secret
• 21:11 – Butterflies meeting Mel / Playful chemistry declaration
• 24:09 – Her shock at receiving the first impression rose
• 29:55 – Paula Abdul cheerleading date: surprises and support
• 39:03 – Party room memories and new friendships
• 40:10 – Supporting fellow contestants with prayer
• 43:18 – Confidence after symbolic moment (“burgundy suit”/rose)
• 44:20 – Empowering message to women: “they can do this”
• 51:51 – Closing mantra: “We’re strong, sassy, and sexy.”

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Episode Takeaways

• Gerri’s journey is a testament to resilience, female empowerment, and rediscovering romance at any age.
• The “Golden Bachelor” experience is as much about sisterhood and self-growth as it is about finding love.
• Listeners are left with the encouragement to own their story, be vulnerable, and embrace new adventures—no matter their life chapter.

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[Susan]

Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Kathy and I are so excited to be joining you again today.

[Kathy]

So excited to be back today. Today though, we have such a special guest. Please welcome from this season of the Golden Bachelor. Jerry is here. Hi Jerry. How are you?

[Jerry Flowers]

Jerry, good to see you. I'm excited. I am great. I'm doing so good. So good.

[Kathy]

We are so excited to have you here. You're our very first guest from the very first second Golden Bachelor. A lot of firsts there.

[Susan]

Yep Jerry, there's so much we want to dive into today. We've got to get started. We have a zillion questions, but we want to know about you.

[Jerry Flowers]

Okay, what about me? What about Jerry Flowers? Jerry Flowers, an amazing mom. Jerry Flowers, a CEO, owner of a home care agency. Jerry Flowers, who is looking for love. Jerry Flowers, who has given 150% to people, to you Name it. If they say, if they said my name. She's a giver, she's a listener. She's amazing. I mean, wow. They would say that.

[Kathy]

You are so amazing. So, Jerry, tell us what we're going to get into. All of it. You know, we want to know how you got on the show. We want to know. But what was dating like before, before you went on the show? What was dating like for you? Kind of like my dating life. A big.

[Susan]

We all have similarities, don't we?

[Jerry Flowers]

Well, I will tell you. When I first got interviewed for the said to me, first of all, this is not your real age. Second of all, what's the matter with the men in Rockville? And I said, I don't know.

[Kathy]

Did you say, how much time do you have? Because I'll explain it to you.

[Susan]

Had you ever watched the show before?

[Jerry Flowers]

I have. My mother loved the show. My mother loved the show. And the person who signed me up for Gay Melnick loves both of you, loves sending hugs and loves. Loves you. But you know, dating was not on my radar. It was. And I'll be transparent about that. I mean, dating is a type of thing where you have to go out and invest and do it and work on it. My investment was my children who, you know my story. My husband died at 47 and left me with a 14 year old, 8 year old and 4 year old. And I'm like, what am I supposed to do with these children who I adore?

[Kathy]

Yeah. So wait, I have to, I have to jump ahead. I mean we're going to talk about, you know, the first impression, all that, but a widow at 47 and raising kids and when you sat and talked with Mel, like that really resonated with him that you said it. You said it had been 18 years and now it was your time. Talk to us a little bit about.

[Jerry Flowers]

That because, Yeah, I mean, 40, 47 years old, you know, he's here today, gone tomorrow, had no, like, what am I doing with my life? We're supposed to retire, we're supposed to talk what our children supposed to do for college. What am I supposed to do with these children? And I'm Saying I never said why me. Never said that. Because my philosophy was, why not me? Why not me? Because I had recently. Not recently, like maybe 8, 10 years, 14 years. Prior to that, I had lost my son at 14 years old. So I had lost a son as well. So I was like, okay, I've got to get up and do this. And I. And I did. But dating was not on my radar because these little people needed me.

[Susan]

They were too busy.

[Jerry Flowers]

They really, really. I was too busy.

[Kathy]

So I was you. I mean, you are. Raising kids is a, it's a serious endeavor. I mean, any of us who do it, we know, right? We all share that in common. What did your kids say when you decided to come on the show?

[Jerry Flowers]

They were so elated. They were so happy. They were like, mom, you have given us so much. It is your time. You know, it was really symbolic. My son David said to me one day, I'll never forget. He said, mom, you never laugh. Why don't you laugh? I was like, wow. And then when I got ready to go on the show, he said, mom, you were laughing. I was laughing.

[Kathy]

How old are your kids, Jerry? How old are your children?

[Jerry Flowers]

Now I have a 32 year old who just blessed me who's getting married. Fiance. She has a fiance, Mike. Oh, yeah. Who blessed me with this amazing little boy, three months old now. Michael David Alexander. He is. Was born Juneteenth. Okay. Then I have my Dr. Flowers, Amber Flowers, who is getting married to her Dr. Miles Sims on Saturday. Doctors in the house.

[Kathy]

Oh, boy, you're a busy lady.

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, you can't even imagine. I won't even tell you where I parked my car for this. I don't even know where my car is when I go out. I don't know where it's at.

[Susan]

And then I have it when you shared. It's your time. It's both of your times. When you said that to Mel, it.

[Jerry Flowers]

Because it was. And then I have David.

[Susan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry Flowers]

David who? Ladies, there's nothing worse for your son at 4 years old to run downstairs and I say, I have a surprise for you. And he said, mommy, Daddy's coming home.

[Susan]

Oh, God.

[Jerry Flowers]

I said, no, sweetheart, Daddy's not coming home. But I have something else for you. But no. And those. And my children. So we have the 31 year old, the 27 year old, and now we have David, 22.

[Kathy]

Wow.

[Susan]

Bless you.

[Kathy]

Wow, that's, that's, that's a lot. But you know what? You have the energy. I mean that to me. Obviously we were, we were on that show, and. And we had those poignant moments with our Gary. But I found it so interesting that you were able to open up so easily about your time and that you had. You raised your kids and. And Mel was so open in this first episode about him raising his children. And I love that it just. You and you said, I really feel like I have a strong connection with him. Talk about that.

[Jerry Flowers]

I did, because it was so. I don't talk about it much, Kathy. I really don't. I don't go around saying my. I worked for a job for a year and a half. They didn't even know my husband had passed. I don't go around talking about it. So for some reason with him, that twinkle in his eye, that sincerity, I just opened up. I just opened up.

[Susan]

Did you feel better? Did you feel good?

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, I felt so much better, Susan. You know, I don't want to say it's a burden. It's not a burden, because it's been a blessing and a gift. But it's so nice to talk about it and talk about it to the point that I've done what I needed to do. I've given them the foundation, and now I can be. I don't want to use the word selfish, but now I can be selfish.

[Susan]

You can be.

[Jerry Flowers]

And do something for Jerry.

[Susan]

It's about you now.

[Jerry Flowers]

It's really about me. It's really about me, and I say that sincerely. It's really about me.

[Kathy]

I. I'm very curious how you balance. You. You are CEO of a. You know, home health care, and you have kids, and you're planning weddings. How are you. Before we even get into night one, which we're about to get into, I want to know how. I'm a mother of three and I have two grandchildren. So how do you balance all of that?

[Jerry Flowers]

You know, I just. First of all, I pray. Ladies, I'm going to just be very transparent about that. I pray first, and God give me the strength, because I get tired. I get tired, but I just keep going. I just keep going. And I just say, why not me? First of all, I have life. I mean, one thing about this show, everybody's gonna finally know my age. My children never knew my age. My children didn't know my age. And I have a big birthday. I'm gonna be 65. And you know what?

[Susan]

Congratulations.

[Jerry Flowers]

I'm freaking proud of you. I am so.

[Susan]

You are damn right.

[Kathy]

Do you need Medicare? Do you need Medicare advice? I can help you out, Jerry.

[Jerry Flowers]

You know what? I have been putting that off for a month. Arp. Trash. Trash. I can't do this. But you know what?

[Susan]

You just welcome it. Just welcome it. It's all good. It's all good.

[Kathy]

You know what? It's coming for you whether you're ready or not.

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[Susan]

What did you do, if anything special to prepare for this journey? Like what were your thoughts into it? Getting on the airplane and thinking, wow, what am I about to do?

[Jerry Flowers]

You know, I only told very few people. Like I have a few friends of mine. They're still mad at me. I didn't tell them, I don't care. But. But I only told very few. My small circle and my prayer partner and my children. And of course I had to tell my hairdresser because you had to do my hair. So that was a must.

[Susan]

That's a must.

[Kathy]

That's a must.

[Jerry Flowers]

That's a must. But I told very little and I just prayed on it and I just said the biggest thing for me if my grandson would have been born July 9th, I wasn't coming, but he Was born Juneteenth. And I said, I'm going.

[Susan]

I'm ready.

[Kathy]

Okay, so let you know. We've all been there. We've all been in that limo. Talk to us about night one. I know how I felt. I thought I was going to trip walking across that driveway. How did you feel getting out of the limo?

[Jerry Flowers]

I was like, what am I doing? Don't forget I had the cap on. So I'm like, please don't let the cap go to the side. I'll be on tv. My stethoscope's gonna choke me as I'm getting.

[Kathy]

Oh, no. We heard you.

[Susan]

We heard you.

[Kathy]

The world heard you say you were going to take care of all of his needs. We all heard. Yes, I did.

[Susan]

And I met you, and I like that you want. You like to be his dessert after a long day's work. And you were hoping he was hungry.

[Jerry Flowers]

I hope he was. I hope he was.

[Susan]

But when you actually laid eyes on him, like, what did you feel?

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, my. He was so. He's handsome to the point that I'm telling you ladies, I felt butterflies. Who feels butterflies at 64 years old?

[Susan]

Can you have butterflies?

[Kathy]

We all want to. That's what we're looking for.

[Jerry Flowers]

And ladies, I want to tell you. And I won't tell you else. What was tingling. Else also, too. I love her.

[Susan]

Kezi.

[Jerry Flowers]

I won't tell you because I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm alive.

[Kathy]

So were you nervous getting out? Obviously, you know, your. Your. Your body parts were talking to you. But were you nervous talking to him?

[Jerry Flowers]

My only thing was that hat. That was the only thing that was making me nervous. I didn't want it to fall. Yeah. I didn't want that hat to fall. Yeah.

[Susan]

How about when I saw the other women?

[Jerry Flowers]

Like, the women are gorgeous. The women were beautiful. The women were just. But it's one of those things, and this is true. We are all fearfully and beautifully made. So don't compare yourself. There's a reason why you are here, and you're unique, and if you can hold on to that, because it's a lot. The women are beautiful. They all are. They look great. You know, when I came back, I got a personal trainer, you know, because. But. But you are who you are, and that's what I want the ladies to understand out there. And you are who you are.

[Kathy]

Yeah. Well. And I think that is a great message. Our message has always been, you know, this is our chapter. This is your next chapter of your life. And you know, we all want to make it the best chapter. And I think all of the women. I think we share that coming into this environment that so few women get to experience, that we are special and we. We should feel special about ourselves. And you clearly get it now.

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, yeah. And my daughter, my Dr. Flowers, says to me all the time, mom, this is your chapter. Now this is your turn. You're living what. What people did in their 20s because you were raising a sick child. You're doing in your 60s, and how fun is that? And how much wisdom now that you have.

[Kathy]

Right.

[Susan]

Well, that's what makes it so much better, because you've had your life, your experiences, and now, again, it's time for you and to be able to do something like this.

[Kathy]

Do you think. Do you think it's harder or easier at this age to. To date with all the things you have in your life?

[Jerry Flowers]

I think it might be easier just because you're a little more pickier.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Jerry Flowers]

You know what I'm saying? You're not falling for the lines. Yeah.

[Susan]

Really?

[Jerry Flowers]

Right. Okay. Come on now.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Jerry Flowers]

You know what I'm saying? Like, really. You know, you can see through the. I don't want to say it. The bs.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Jerry Flowers]

So.

[Kathy]

And so. You clearly are. I love you because you're direct like I am. And I love that you say what you mean. You mean what you say. How shocked were you when you. I wasn't. How shocked were you when you got the first impression? Rose?

[Jerry Flowers]

Are you kidding me? I was floored first. I was out of my mind. I was like. I couldn't even say. I'm sure that that's what came across. I'm like, what? Did he just call my name? Yeah. Really?

[Susan]

He did. He did.

[Jerry Flowers]

I really. Both my girls were. When they got engaged, it was a surprise. I know how they felt with that.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

What?

[Susan]

It felt like this. Because it was a surprise.

[Jerry Flowers]

I had no idea.

[Kathy]

Listen, Jerry, you clearly are someone who is who they say they are. And I think. I think everyone sees that about you in this first episode.

[Jerry Flowers]

Really?

[Kathy]

I think so. I mean, I. I was not at all surprised that.

[Jerry Flowers]

And the ladies said that. All the ladies, even though they clearly knew what it meant. When I saw the. Rose, you know me, you know, I was happy drinking my Prosecco. I was happy to have Lamarck. I was a happy camper.

[Susan]

I had a good time. I look good. I feel good.

[Jerry Flowers]

I'm not taking care of anybody, Jerry.

[Kathy]

I had. I beat a track to the bar. I had, like, a little golden pathway to the bar, I know exactly.

[Jerry Flowers]

Why does the bartender know my name? But it was just a lot. But I was happy. I was happy. So when the rose came, I was like, down. When it was on the, on the table, on the plate, I said, oh, that's a pretty rose. Let me go get some more of LaMarca. And that's how I, I just didn't. I had no idea. I had. No. I really.

[Susan]

It was a nice surprise.

[Kathy]

It's a nice surprise, but I feel like you're the girl who, you're the woman who just is who, who you are. You come out as yourself. And I think Mel really appreciated that because I want to know what you think. You know, what you went through, right? You had all the girls. What do you think he was going through that first night?

[Jerry Flowers]

What do you think, first of all? Well, I was just getting ready to say that first of all, he had to face all us beautiful women when he walked into that, that, that living room and you could tell he was like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, can you.

[Kathy]

And, and can you imagine? I think, I hope everybody, when they watch this first episode, gives this guy some grace. I know you all did because how many times personally I can speak, have said stupid things off the cuff. And I think when he saw you women, I think it was a, you know, not literally, but a slap in the face. Well, he got a puppet slap, but you know what I mean? I think it was. I think he really thought, wow. I think. Do you agree?

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, I agree 150%. Yeah, I agree. Because I sat there, I saw them, and you know what I saw more than anything? I saw their hearts. I saw their hearts. I mean, I was like the person they came to, to pray for every day. Whatever they were praying, I was praying for them, whatever. And they all really accepted his apology. I felt that very sincerely.

[Susan]

You know, even I did. Even I did because I was one to judge. I didn't like what he had to say. I was like, okay, hearing him and being humble and really was grateful for the forgiveness that you women gave him.

[Kathy]

And to be able to start over.

[Susan]

For this journey that he wanted to go on, I really took a different take.

[Jerry Flowers]

And Susan and Kathy, who's perfect? The only man I know that's perfect is the man upstairs.

[Susan]

We all open our mouths and insert foot from time to time.

[Jerry Flowers]

I, I do it a lot. I do, but I do it.

[Kathy]

I do. I also, you all, when he apologized and I thought his, his reaction was real. I mean, I don't think there was anything put on about that?

[Susan]

No.

[Kathy]

And I think a lot of people, you guys, I mean, did you feel like this is not going to go well until you saw him? I just wonder how you felt up coming up to it. Because we're not talking about the comment. I mean, right. Yeah. I'm talking about what he had said. Were you like, this guy's really gonna have to prove it to me because I love a man who will say I need to earn it back and.

[Jerry Flowers]

Right.

[Kathy]

I love that about him.

[Jerry Flowers]

I. I think so. I. And I. And I. I heard the comment and I'm like, what's up with that? And then, you know, the rumors. They're getting rid of them. They have a new one, whatever. And I was just like, you know what? I'm going. And I'm going. Because some people said, oh, you shouldn't go. Why are you going? They were just talking. They didn't know what was going on. They didn't even know I was going to be on the show. Didn't know. And I was like, come on, guys, let's give him some. When I say, even when we're interviewing the first night, they said to me that. I said, you know what? I. I hear what you all are saying. I accept his apology. And don't ask me that anymore. I just don't.

[Susan]

I don't want to hear about me.

[Jerry Flowers]

Yeah, it's behind me.

[Susan]

Sincere.

[Jerry Flowers]

Yeah, very sincere and very humble.

[Susan]

And that's okay. Let's start this over.

[Kathy]

Okay. So. So. So we're. We're all in a love Mel fest. Now. I haven't met him yet, but I'm looking forward to.

[Jerry Flowers]

You've never met Mellow.

[Kathy]

No, but I'm looking forward to it. But I want to know that I have to tell you. I went into paralysis over the cheerleading. I was a cheerleader. But the fact that you all learned those cheers, that cheer so quickly. Tell me about that. What was that like for you doing and seeing Paula?

[Jerry Flowers]

What? First of all, first of all, just. We'll back up. We were listening to her song on the.

[Susan]

Oh, my God.

[Jerry Flowers]

We were all excited on Team Paula. I'm team. So we get out there. Yeah. And when they. We thought we're gonna play flag football, you know, us women were over. We like to take control. We kind of know what's gonna go on. We all. We know that. And we had no idea. So when she came out, it was like, oh, my goodness. And you want us to do what now?

[Kathy]

Wait, wait, Jerry. You all. I'm Assuming you came to the stadium in your cheer outfits. Yes. No, we put them on. Okay.

[Susan]

I believe us, Kathy, with the costumes that we had to. Yeah.

[Kathy]

Oh, I. I definitely do remember, we.

[Jerry Flowers]

Came in athletic wear.

[Susan]

Yes.

[Jerry Flowers]

Okay. And we're just like, okay, we're gonna have to play flag.

[Kathy]

That makes sense. Okay. That makes total sense because.

[Jerry Flowers]

And that's. And every. Every one of us said that. Everyone said the flag football. We're gonna do some type of drill or he's gonna make us exhaust. You know, we all.

[Kathy]

You know, who can throw the longest pass kind of thing.

[Jerry Flowers]

Yeah. Who can throw the longest. Who can catch the. We all.

[Susan]

And when he was imp.

[Kathy]

He looked. It was impressive watching you guys, both of you. Both teams did a great job. I mean, you really did.

[Jerry Flowers]

You know, we had a few that were like, okay, Jerry, be serious now. Come on, Jerry. I'm, like, having fun. Leave me alone. But, you know, but some were very serious. And I. And I was. I was good because I was a dancer a little bit. And look, my daughter did cheer. She was a part.

[Kathy]

There were a lot of dancers.

[Susan]

Yes, I saw.

[Kathy]

I mean, there's you. There's Cindy's a dancer. There's a couple of other dancers there.

[Jerry Flowers]

Cindy was. They were phenomenal. They were fun. But you know what was good about. They all helped us. They helped us. Okay.

[Kathy]

That's what women do, Jerry. That's what women do.

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[Susan]

At this point in time, is your heart getting like, are you into him? Are you watching others? Okay, okay.

[Jerry Flowers]

A lot of them were already into him.

[Susan]

Okay.

[Jerry Flowers]

I was getting there. I was getting there.

[Kathy]

So. So who were your friends? I want to know, because on our season, and there, as you just pointed out, there were some women in our season that were more into Gary in the beginning than others of us. So who did you gravitate to? Who were your friends? And how did that work with the positioning, if you will, with Mel?

[Jerry Flowers]

Well, with us, we had the smallest room, but we had the best room. We had Carol. Carol, who is my ace.

[Kathy]

Carol.

[Jerry Flowers]

Carol. Carol, who I love. And we had Cindy, who was in our room. So she used to come over and be like, this is your room. Get out. But she still would come over, get out, Cindy. And then we had Amy and then Robin.

[Kathy]

Those are great women.

[Susan]

Yes.

[Jerry Flowers]

And then we had the other ones that came in. We were like the party room, to the point. The handlers used to say, are you guys okay?

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[Jerry Flowers]

And we're like, you know, I can.

[Susan]

Name the smallest room. Everybody congregate it, Right?

[Kathy]

That's funny, because Susan and I were in the master, and that's where everyone. And Teresa came and wanted to do yoga, and they threw her out. April, on our show, get out of here. Get out of here. Go to that room.

[Jerry Flowers]

Do you know in that big room, one of the big rooms, there was a sign that says, we are asleep at 9. Don't disturb. And I'm like, can I go and rip it off?

[Susan]

She should have been in our room.

[Kathy]

Kathy, are your roommates. Were they the ones you gravitated to?

[Susan]

For you were close to somebody in another room at all?

[Jerry Flowers]

You know what? It's interesting because I prayed a lot with everybody. Everybody. I had a prayer, and I have on my nightstand, I had Jeremiah 29. For I have the plan for. To prosper you, not to harm you, but to bring you hope for the future. So if somebody was having some problems with another lady, Jerry, pray with me. Okay? Come on.

[Kathy]

Well, funny you should mention that, because it seemed that the women were getting frustrated with Nicole and her makeout sessions in the pool.

[Susan]

Well, that pool party.

[Jerry Flowers]

Yeah, some of them were, but it was it. Nicole is passionate. Yeah, Nicole's very passionate. Passionate and beautiful. And so she's a little more open than maybe some of us are or for.

[Susan]

That's how I'm not afraid to go up to him.

[Kathy]

Yeah, no, she's. I mean, that girl had her octopus arms, though. I was like, I have to say, those arms wrapped around him. And when Cindy ever said, she's Nicole, she's climbing the tree. Wait, I died.

[Susan]

I couldn't. I couldn't.

[Kathy]

Died laughing. But I just thought Nicole seemed good for her. But, I mean, I just wonder because in our. I'd be lying if I did say we had a couple of women who were very territorial. Shall I say that's a good word, territorial. And it caused. It caused a little friction. So I just wondered if, you know, how were you feeling? Because clearly you're a peacemaker. You're. You're someone.

[Jerry Flowers]

There's that libra in me.

[Kathy]

Yeah, well, good justice. You're a woman of justice. There you go. But how. How did that feel?

[Jerry Flowers]

It didn't bother me. It didn't. Honestly, it really. I wasn't like. Didn't really. I mean, like, come on, Joe, you.

[Kathy]

Didn'T want to get your lips on that. Come on.

[Jerry Flowers]

I did get my lips on it, Cathy, so thank you very much.

[Kathy]

Oh, excuse me. Excuse me.

[Jerry Flowers]

He. He. He's a great kisser.

[Susan]

Not that I saw the first couple kisses, because I had that in my notes. Like a kiss. It was like. Oh, come on, Mel, give me something here.

[Jerry Flowers]

No, I mean, I kissed him. I kissed him. I kissed him. I did. I kiss him at night, maybe.

[Kathy]

Oh, you definitely did that. I saw that.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Jerry Flowers]

Well, ladies, I'm not dead.

[Susan]

Did you get the butterflies then? Did you feel special?

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, I felt like Cinderella.

[Susan]

Yes.

[Jerry Flowers]

And I still feel like Cinderella. And I will share with you ladies, and you can take this the way you want it. And he has big hands, so you can take that any way you want.

[Susan]

Enough said. Can we talk about the outdoor rose ceremony? That was cool. Oh, that was the first night. Like, how long that night goes, right?

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, oh, you mean the first. First night when I got very first night. But you know what? You want such a high. I know we have this question here that says, how is your endurance? I used to work three jobs, and I work the night shift, day shift, So I had two jobs in the morning, during the day, 24 hours. So I worked. So for me to be up like that, nothing. It was nothing. And I was on a high. I'm in a mansion.

[Kathy]

Well, wait, I want to know. Were you worried about Obviously, you got the first impression was. But on the second ceremony, how were you feeling?

[Jerry Flowers]

No, you know why? Because I did my little Jeremy, my prayer, and I want to say the second ceremony, I think he came out in a burgundy suit, if I remember correctly. And when I saw that burgundy suit, because I looked up and I said, come on, David. I'm getting nervous. And when he came out in a burgundy suit, that was my husband's school, Morehouse College, I said, I got a rose. I'm not even thinking about it. Oh, girl.

[Susan]

Well, yes, you did have a rose, and you didn't need to think about it.

[Kathy]

You just knew you were getting it.

[Jerry Flowers]

I knew it.

[Kathy]

Wow.

[Jerry Flowers]

I knew because of what I asked for and I saw, and I'm pretty sure it was that burgundy suit he wore. And I just knew what now, the first rose.

[Susan]

It got you. The second.

[Kathy]

You strike me as a very confident, confident and. And. And know who you are kind of woman, which I personally love, because I want women our age to feel that way. And the more of us out there that are. Are espousing this, the better I like it.

[Jerry Flowers]

I hope. And I hope they see that about me. Now. Take all this X to interior. You know me. But I just want them to know they can do this. They can do this. Is it hard in the beginning? Yes. Yes. But take it one second at a time, one minute at a time, one hour at a time, and just go and have fun. That's what it's all about.

[Susan]

Enjoy the moment. I have to ask you, when we saw two rose ceremonies, so were you surprised at the second rose ceremony, who had to leave, or did you know.

[Jerry Flowers]

If I was surprised? I was just sad because I had formed a bond. Yes.

[Susan]

Yeah. We hated saying goodbye, too. Kathy.

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, it's. It's wrenching. It's wrenching. And. But, you know, I never sat around and said, when. Who's going home today? Who's going home today? I just never. It must have been the Lamarck or the Prosecco. I don't know. I just never.

[Susan]

But we all had to be prepared to leave.

[Jerry Flowers]

Well, we had to. And I. Yes, you have to be. Yes, you have to be. But I didn't, you know, because it's almost like we were competing, but we're really not competing because we're all this cheerleader.

[Kathy]

Well, that's actually a question I was. I wanted to ask you, Jerry, did you feel people used to ask us this. Did you feel like you were in a competition or an adventure to find love? Or are they the Same thing.

[Jerry Flowers]

I mean, the competition with the other ladies.

[Kathy]

Yeah, Sorry. Yes.

[Jerry Flowers]

I mean, there was a little competitive there. There was. There's a little bit. I mean, you always got the ones who always ran up to him first.

[Kathy]

Pushing their way out the door of the.

[Jerry Flowers]

Yeah. Knocking me down.

[Susan]

Is it always Nicole?

[Jerry Flowers]

Yeah, we love her, but, you know, it's okay because if you're confident in yourself, he'll see me.

[Kathy]

Well, and also, don't you think we're only in the first episode. But I. And I certainly don't know how it ends, but I. From our season, even though Gary and Teresa didn't make it, I think the process itself works. Do you?

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, I do. Yeah, Absolutely, I do. I mean, people say. And you get your people who say, oh, you can't find love in that time. You know, you get those people. There's always going to be someone saying something negative. Course my husband walked down the. The. The hospital going to see a sick patient. I saw him and was like, oh, my God, I have got.

[Susan]

I'm going to marry that man. That's what Kathy says, Jerry.

[Kathy]

I met my husband the first night of college at a fraternity party, looked at him across the room and looked at my suite mate and said, you see that guy over there? She goes, yeah. I said, I'm going to marry him. And 18 months later, I did. So I get it. Yeah. I believe in chemistry. I mean, you said it. You used the word chemistry. Chemistry is a real thing and it's Right.

[Jerry Flowers]

So. So no matter who's pushing through you, no matter who's doing, he'll see you.

[Susan]

But you're at one point looking around going, I think I see these two look at each other, or I see you never felt like that you were just good with everything.

[Jerry Flowers]

I really was. I mean, I could tell that. And I may not. I could tell there was. He had an attraction. I could see that.

[Susan]

Okay, you noticed that.

[Jerry Flowers]

Yes.

[Susan]

How could you not? Right?

[Kathy]

I mean, you can't have an equal attraction. But I wish people, this is my. My plug for Mel and was the same for Gary, that it's almost an untenable situation. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love to be having 25, 23 men, whatever, fawning over me. Let's be clear. But I think it's gotta be so difficult for. For them. And I think when they handle. When. When Mel not only, you know, he was coming and digging out, frankly, he had to come in and dig out and he did a great job. So I, you know, I give these guys great credit, and I give the women great credit because I'm a big believer in women, supporting women. And to that end. To that end, we've been bulleting you with questions. You got any? Got anything? Open the floor. Before we. Before we head out of this great interview, do you have anything you want to know about us? Questions?

[Jerry Flowers]

I do. I mean, what is life after the Bachelor? What is life like for you all? What is life like?

[Susan]

It's still just as great as when you're on the show. Because for me, I. I love myself from being on that show. I'm okay with who I am. You know what I mean? Like, I was like.

[Jerry Flowers]

You were like that before you even went on the show, though, Susan.

[Susan]

You were like, I always was me. Kathy, I could say for both of us, I'm sure, unapologetically, authentically us, like, I am who I am. But after being on that show, it gave me more confidence, if you will. I was okay with somebody else being happier than I got to be, you know, and happy for them.

[Kathy]

For me. I knew pretty quickly that. Gary. By the way, this is hard, Jerry. Gary. I'm trying to keep the name straight here.

[Susan]

I know, Jerry.

[Kathy]

I was pretty clear.

[Susan]

How many times did we call him that? Kelly?

[Kathy]

Yeah. That Gary and I were not going to be a nice guy, but not my guy. But I will tell you, for me, being on that show was a gift. My husband, I'm sure, you know, my husband died by suicide. And so for me, so for me, it helped bring me back to life and help me find that joy again. But the biggest takeaway for me from being on the show, and I still feel it to this day, is when somebody says to me, kathy, listening to you, I. Now I feel like I have a purpose. I want to live my life. I want that. I am so grateful that this experience means something to other people that they can find joy. They can say, you know what? If she can do it, I can do it. So to be that little, maybe set little example for someone to feel better about themselves, that is everything to me.

[Jerry Flowers]

Right? Right. Yeah, that's spot on. That's how exactly how I feel. I mean, I can heal you. I can bring you back to life, but your soul and just to make you feel good about yourself, that's something that's within.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Susan]

Now I'm in your comfort zone, going on to. I mean, you're on national tv. That's not in your everyday comfort zone. You know what I mean?

[Jerry Flowers]

No, no. But I want to help I'm whoever it is. Whoever's. Whoever knows me. I'm a. I'm a giver. That's my love language.

[Susan]

I'm a gift.

[Jerry Flowers]

And I do it like blinking my eyes. Like, it's like blinking my eyes. It's so natural. And I'll feed you. I don't eat, but I feed people, and they say that all the time. But what about as far as feed people? I do my. Feed them. They'll tell you that she never eats. But as far as, like, the publicity, all that, like, I don't have to be the center of attraction. That's not.

[Susan]

You will. People will recognize you. And it's always warm and loving, and you've given us hope. Like, there's. You're not never too old to live. It's not over in your 60s. It's just beginning, you know, and that. Share that message, and people just will love you.

[Jerry Flowers]

And that's why I said we're strong, sassy, and sexy. That's us. I'm sorry, Kathy, what were you gonna say?

[Kathy]

I think that's a great place to end it.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Kathy]

That says it all.

[Jerry Flowers]

When you come to Rockville, I want you guys to look me up, please.

[Susan]

We will. We'll share each other's numbers afterwards.

[Jerry Flowers]

Thank you.

[Susan]

That was so much fun. And we want to thank you. You're such a wonderful guest. Jerry, we're so happy that you're in our lives now. Welco to the family.

[Jerry Flowers]

Oh, yes, you are. You know, if I had known you sooner, I would invite you to the wedding on Saturday.

[Susan]

I'm telling you, I could have officiated the wedding.

[Jerry Flowers]

Now you tell me.

[Kathy]

Yeah, now you tell. I. I knew she'd get that in. But. But, Jerry, really, it has been a delight getting to know you better.

[Susan]

Thank you.

[Kathy]

And we also want to thank all of our listeners. Yes, be sure to tune in. Follow Bachelor Happy Hour. We have new episodes coming out every week that you don't want to miss.

[Susan]

And make sure you keep submitting those questions because that's what we love to talk about. You can go to bachelornation.comgoldenhour or you can DM us on Instagram. BachelorHappyHour.

[Kathy]

Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until next time, have a great week.

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