Bachelor Happy Hour – Golden Hour

Episode: Getting Honest | Golden Hour
Date: February 26, 2025
Hosts: Susan and Kathy (Bachelor Nation alums)

Episode Overview

This episode of Bachelor Happy Hour’s Golden Hour is all about honesty and real talk. Co-hosts Susan and Kathy tap into the emotional side of Bachelor Nation, responding to fan questions on relationships, family boundaries, modern dating, and parental dilemmas with their signature warmth and witty banter. From “is jealousy healthy?” to awkward family dating scenarios and giving the “sex talk,” Susan and Kathy aim to offer wisdom (and plenty of laughs) from lived experience—delivering relatable, heartfelt, and at times hilariously frank advice for listeners navigating love and life at every age.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

Catching Up: Illness, Golf, and Favorite Bachelor Nation Friends

(04:12 – 06:47)

• Kathy talks about being sick (again!), humorously venting about “cedar fever” and threatening (jokingly) to move to Tahiti.
• The hosts chat about an upcoming golf trip to Carmel, poking fun at fellow Bachelor cast member Guy’s obsession with golf attire and the joys of planning photo-ready outfits.
  • Quote (Kathy, 05:08): “Guy, you’re a girl. This is what girls talk about.”
• On golf handicaps: The women agree not to take it too seriously—“Have a couple drinks, it’ll all be fine!” (Kathy, 06:16)

Fan Questions Segment

(06:50 – 41:38)
Susan and Kathy dig into fan-submitted questions, providing candid, practical, sometimes cheeky advice. Major topics:

1. Is Jealousy Healthy in a Relationship?

(07:50 – 09:38)

• Susan: “You shouldn’t be jealous, but a little bit…maybe it means you care.” (08:09)
• Kathy: “To me, jealousy means it’s symptomatic…of not trust.” (08:22)
• Both agree: Jealousy = Unhealthy; trust and security are key to any good relationship.

2. My Parent Is Dating My Boyfriend’s Parent—What Do I Do?

(10:00 – 12:28)

• “Is this totally weird and incestual, or should we support them?” – Anonymous listener
• Susan: “I think this is awesome…You let two people meet each other organically, which is everything we always dreamed of.” (10:49)
• Kathy: “It’s only incestual if your mother is sleeping with your brother—or you. That’s what incest is. If she is dating your boyfriend’s father, that’s called a date.” (11:11)
• Both encourage celebrating love and not overthinking or shaming the coincidence: “Let them do them.”
• Susan offers to officiate if a wedding results!

3. Grandma Wants to Be Called “Mama”

(17:49 – 20:31)

• Listener “Erin” writes in about her own mom wanting her grandkids to call her “Mama”.
• Kathy: “These are your children…You can be Grandma, you can be Kiki, Mimi, Gigi…but ‘Mama’ is a mom’s name. You cannot.” (19:44)
• Susan: “Mama is a mommy’s name…and yes, it’s weird. You’re not in the butt before it gets too far.” (20:07, 20:23)
• The consensus: Set a gentle but firm boundary. Other “grandma names” are fine.

4. Sex Talk Showdown: To Preach Abstinence or Be Real?

(21:08 – 26:38)

• Anonymous writes in: My husband insists on an abstinence-only talk with our daughter. What do I do?
• Susan: Relates to having a similar disagreement; encourages a private, realistic talk between mother and daughter.
  • “It is 2000 and whatever—it’s absolutely not just about abstinence.” (21:54)
• Kathy: Advocates for honesty, sex education, and empowering kids with knowledge about pregnancy, STDs, and respect.
  • “The sex talk is not just about should I approve of my daughter having sex, or my son—it’s so much more than that.” (24:54)
  • “Play this podcast for him…We have girls, we have boys, we’ve had the talk, we have grandchildren. We’ve seen it all.” (25:57)
• On birth control: It’s not about “encouraging sex,” but about preventing unplanned consequences and keeping kids safe.

Game Time: Red Flag or Red Rose – Dating App Habits

(31:57 – 41:38)

Susan and Kathy play a lightning-round game, rating common online dating behaviors as “red flag” (bad) or “red rose” (good). Highlights:

• Not looking for a long-term partner
  • Kathy: Red flag for her; Susan: Red rose for honesty.
• Mirror selfies in profiles: RED FLAG, especially with bathroom backgrounds and shirtless shots. (34:21)
• Prompt: “Don’t take yourself too seriously”: Kathy thinks it’s a red flag.
• “Mama’s boy” in bio: Both say, run away—red flag.
• Message you but never ask for your number: Red flag.
• Picture with a hunted animal/fish: Immediate, emphatic red flag from both.
  • Quote (Kathy, 37:15): “If I never see a guy again with a shirt undone, with a cracked open beer in one hand and a big dead fish… it will not be too soon.”
• First DM asks why you’re single: Kathy thinks it’s too much, too fast (red flag); Susan is neutral, having asked (and been asked) the same question in casual chat.
• Requests an immediate meetup versus phone call first?:
  • Kathy prefers phoning for safety—recommends Google Voice numbers to protect privacy.
• Messages only late at night: Both, emphatically, red flag.

Reflections on Dating and Modern Love

(42:00 – 44:19)

• Susan and Kathy reflect on the dating scene: online apps, the challenge of more single women than men, and the unchanging “universality” of the desire for love and companionship.
  • Kathy: “Things don’t really change that much in the dating world. We’re all looking for someone to love and to be loved.” (42:58)
• The struggle to find new faces on dating apps, “organic” meeting through friends, and the perennial issue of men seeking younger women.
• They joke about not putting their ages on apps until after someone already likes them.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |------------|---------|-------| | 05:08 | Kathy | “Guy, you’re a girl. This is what girls talk about.” | | 08:22 | Kathy | “To me, jealousy means it’s symptomatic…of not trust.” | | 10:49 | Susan | “I think this is awesome…You let two people meet each other organically, which is everything we always dreamed of.” | | 11:11 | Kathy | “It’s only incestual if your mother is sleeping with your brother—or you. That’s what incest is. If she is dating your boyfriend’s father, that’s called a date.” | | 19:44 | Kathy | “These are your children…you can be Grandma, you can be Kiki, Mimi, Gigi…but ‘Mama’ is a mom’s name. You cannot.” | | 21:54 | Susan | “It is 2000 and whatever—it’s absolutely not just about abstinence.” | | 24:54 | Kathy | “The sex talk is not just about should I approve of my daughter having sex, or my son—it’s so much more than that.” | | 25:57 | Kathy | “Play this podcast for him…We have girls, we have boys, we’ve had the talk, we have grandchildren. We’ve seen it all.” | | 37:15 | Kathy | “If I never see a guy again with a shirt undone, cracked open beer, and a big dead fish… it will not be too soon.” | | 42:58 | Kathy | “Things don’t really change that much in the dating world. We’re all looking for someone to love and be loved.” |

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Catching Up & Golf Banter: 04:12 – 06:47
• Fan Questions Begin: 06:50
  • Jealousy: 07:50 – 09:38
  • Parents Dating Each Other: 10:00 – 12:28
  • Grandma wants to be “Mama”: 17:49 – 20:31
  • Sex Talk Dilemma: 21:08 – 26:38
• Red Flag or Red Rose Game: 31:57 – 41:38
• Dating Reflections & Wrap-Up: 42:00 – 44:19

Tone and Feel

Warm, humorous, and big-sisterly, Kathy and Susan blend Bachelor Nation savvy with real-life vulnerability—striking a balance between tell-it-straight advice and gentle, relatable encouragement. Lots of laughter, candid anecdotes, playful teasing, and a repeated invitation for listeners to write in with any question, “anonymously or not.”

Listener Takeaways

• Trust is the foundation of every healthy relationship; jealousy signals problems.
• Family romance crossovers are weird—until you realize love is random and worth celebrating.
• Boundaries with family members—even your own mom—are not rude, they’re necessary.
• The “sex talk” should be honest, comprehensive, and definitely cover more than abstinence.
• Online dating comes with new rules: Keep safety in mind, be wary of sketchy profiles, and don’t be afraid to swipe left on obvious red flags.
• It’s okay to admit you’re picky or still looking—everyone is searching for connection and love.

Final note:
Listeners are encouraged to keep sending questions (even anonymously) and to reach out for help in the dating landscape—Kathy and Susan might not have all the answers, but they’ll always have empathy, humor, and real talk on tap.