Getting Honest | Golden Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour – Golden Hour

Episode: Getting Honest | Golden Hour
Date: February 26, 2025
Hosts: Susan and Kathy (Bachelor Nation alums)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Bachelor Happy Hour’s Golden Hour is all about honesty and real talk. Co-hosts Susan and Kathy tap into the emotional side of Bachelor Nation, responding to fan questions on relationships, family boundaries, modern dating, and parental dilemmas with their signature warmth and witty banter. From “is jealousy healthy?” to awkward family dating scenarios and giving the “sex talk,” Susan and Kathy aim to offer wisdom (and plenty of laughs) from lived experience—delivering relatable, heartfelt, and at times hilariously frank advice for listeners navigating love and life at every age.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Catching Up: Illness, Golf, and Favorite Bachelor Nation Friends

(04:12 – 06:47)

• Kathy talks about being sick (again!), humorously venting about “cedar fever” and threatening (jokingly) to move to Tahiti.
• The hosts chat about an upcoming golf trip to Carmel, poking fun at fellow Bachelor cast member Guy’s obsession with golf attire and the joys of planning photo-ready outfits.
  • Quote (Kathy, 05:08): “Guy, you’re a girl. This is what girls talk about.”
• On golf handicaps: The women agree not to take it too seriously—“Have a couple drinks, it’ll all be fine!” (Kathy, 06:16)

Fan Questions Segment

(06:50 – 41:38)
Susan and Kathy dig into fan-submitted questions, providing candid, practical, sometimes cheeky advice. Major topics:

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1. Is Jealousy Healthy in a Relationship?

(07:50 – 09:38)

• Susan: “You shouldn’t be jealous, but a little bit…maybe it means you care.” (08:09)
• Kathy: “To me, jealousy means it’s symptomatic…of not trust.” (08:22)
• Both agree: Jealousy = Unhealthy; trust and security are key to any good relationship.

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2. My Parent Is Dating My Boyfriend’s Parent—What Do I Do?

(10:00 – 12:28)

• “Is this totally weird and incestual, or should we support them?” – Anonymous listener
• Susan: “I think this is awesome…You let two people meet each other organically, which is everything we always dreamed of.” (10:49)
• Kathy: “It’s only incestual if your mother is sleeping with your brother—or you. That’s what incest is. If she is dating your boyfriend’s father, that’s called a date.” (11:11)
• Both encourage celebrating love and not overthinking or shaming the coincidence: “Let them do them.”
• Susan offers to officiate if a wedding results!

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3. Grandma Wants to Be Called “Mama”

(17:49 – 20:31)

• Listener “Erin” writes in about her own mom wanting her grandkids to call her “Mama”.
• Kathy: “These are your children…You can be Grandma, you can be Kiki, Mimi, Gigi…but ‘Mama’ is a mom’s name. You cannot.” (19:44)
• Susan: “Mama is a mommy’s name…and yes, it’s weird. You’re not in the butt before it gets too far.” (20:07, 20:23)
• The consensus: Set a gentle but firm boundary. Other “grandma names” are fine.

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4. Sex Talk Showdown: To Preach Abstinence or Be Real?

(21:08 – 26:38)

• Anonymous writes in: My husband insists on an abstinence-only talk with our daughter. What do I do?
• Susan: Relates to having a similar disagreement; encourages a private, realistic talk between mother and daughter.
  • “It is 2000 and whatever—it’s absolutely not just about abstinence.” (21:54)
• Kathy: Advocates for honesty, sex education, and empowering kids with knowledge about pregnancy, STDs, and respect.
  • “The sex talk is not just about should I approve of my daughter having sex, or my son—it’s so much more than that.” (24:54)
  • “Play this podcast for him…We have girls, we have boys, we’ve had the talk, we have grandchildren. We’ve seen it all.” (25:57)
• On birth control: It’s not about “encouraging sex,” but about preventing unplanned consequences and keeping kids safe.

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Game Time: Red Flag or Red Rose – Dating App Habits

(31:57 – 41:38)

Susan and Kathy play a lightning-round game, rating common online dating behaviors as “red flag” (bad) or “red rose” (good). Highlights:

• Not looking for a long-term partner
  • Kathy: Red flag for her; Susan: Red rose for honesty.
• Mirror selfies in profiles: RED FLAG, especially with bathroom backgrounds and shirtless shots. (34:21)
• Prompt: “Don’t take yourself too seriously”: Kathy thinks it’s a red flag.
• “Mama’s boy” in bio: Both say, run away—red flag.
• Message you but never ask for your number: Red flag.
• Picture with a hunted animal/fish: Immediate, emphatic red flag from both.
  • Quote (Kathy, 37:15): “If I never see a guy again with a shirt undone, with a cracked open beer in one hand and a big dead fish… it will not be too soon.”
• First DM asks why you’re single: Kathy thinks it’s too much, too fast (red flag); Susan is neutral, having asked (and been asked) the same question in casual chat.
• Requests an immediate meetup versus phone call first?:
  • Kathy prefers phoning for safety—recommends Google Voice numbers to protect privacy.
• Messages only late at night: Both, emphatically, red flag.

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Reflections on Dating and Modern Love

(42:00 – 44:19)

• Susan and Kathy reflect on the dating scene: online apps, the challenge of more single women than men, and the unchanging “universality” of the desire for love and companionship.
  • Kathy: “Things don’t really change that much in the dating world. We’re all looking for someone to love and to be loved.” (42:58)
• The struggle to find new faces on dating apps, “organic” meeting through friends, and the perennial issue of men seeking younger women.
• They joke about not putting their ages on apps until after someone already likes them.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |------------|---------|-------| | 05:08 | Kathy | “Guy, you’re a girl. This is what girls talk about.” | | 08:22 | Kathy | “To me, jealousy means it’s symptomatic…of not trust.” | | 10:49 | Susan | “I think this is awesome…You let two people meet each other organically, which is everything we always dreamed of.” | | 11:11 | Kathy | “It’s only incestual if your mother is sleeping with your brother—or you. That’s what incest is. If she is dating your boyfriend’s father, that’s called a date.” | | 19:44 | Kathy | “These are your children…you can be Grandma, you can be Kiki, Mimi, Gigi…but ‘Mama’ is a mom’s name. You cannot.” | | 21:54 | Susan | “It is 2000 and whatever—it’s absolutely not just about abstinence.” | | 24:54 | Kathy | “The sex talk is not just about should I approve of my daughter having sex, or my son—it’s so much more than that.” | | 25:57 | Kathy | “Play this podcast for him…We have girls, we have boys, we’ve had the talk, we have grandchildren. We’ve seen it all.” | | 37:15 | Kathy | “If I never see a guy again with a shirt undone, cracked open beer, and a big dead fish… it will not be too soon.” | | 42:58 | Kathy | “Things don’t really change that much in the dating world. We’re all looking for someone to love and be loved.” |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Catching Up & Golf Banter: 04:12 – 06:47
• Fan Questions Begin: 06:50
  • Jealousy: 07:50 – 09:38
  • Parents Dating Each Other: 10:00 – 12:28
  • Grandma wants to be “Mama”: 17:49 – 20:31
  • Sex Talk Dilemma: 21:08 – 26:38
• Red Flag or Red Rose Game: 31:57 – 41:38
• Dating Reflections & Wrap-Up: 42:00 – 44:19

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Tone and Feel

Warm, humorous, and big-sisterly, Kathy and Susan blend Bachelor Nation savvy with real-life vulnerability—striking a balance between tell-it-straight advice and gentle, relatable encouragement. Lots of laughter, candid anecdotes, playful teasing, and a repeated invitation for listeners to write in with any question, “anonymously or not.”

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Listener Takeaways

• Trust is the foundation of every healthy relationship; jealousy signals problems.
• Family romance crossovers are weird—until you realize love is random and worth celebrating.
• Boundaries with family members—even your own mom—are not rude, they’re necessary.
• The “sex talk” should be honest, comprehensive, and definitely cover more than abstinence.
• Online dating comes with new rules: Keep safety in mind, be wary of sketchy profiles, and don’t be afraid to swipe left on obvious red flags.
• It’s okay to admit you’re picky or still looking—everyone is searching for connection and love.

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Final note:
Listeners are encouraged to keep sending questions (even anonymously) and to reach out for help in the dating landscape—Kathy and Susan might not have all the answers, but they’ll always have empathy, humor, and real talk on tap.

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[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Welcome back, everyone, to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining Kathy and I today. We're so thrilled to be here.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Hey, Susan, how are you doing today?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Good. Good, Kath.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I gotta say, I'm struggling again. Everyone who knows me knows I've had two bouts of bronchitis. Now I'm fighting what we lovingly refer to in Austin as cedar fever. I cannot cut a break. I just. I think I need to move to Tahiti. You want to go?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

That's winter cat.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay. But we are going pretty soon. In a few weeks, we're gonna go play golf in Carmel. I can't believe I gotta tell you. I was talking with Guy from Jones season last night. We've decided I'm his big sister. You know, he calls me for advice. He's telling me he's like a girl. Susan. He's asking me what I'm wearing.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, wait, wait. You know, he's been taking lessons, got new clothes. Oh, no, that's where I'm going with photo shoots. Bless you guys.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Guy said to me, well, you know, what are you wearing? I said, I don't. Haven't figured it out yet. I've got 18 million. Golf. Golf photographer, let me tell you. And he went through this whole thing. Guy, if you're listening, I warned you I was going to tell it. He was talking about how his dad, his favorite player, golf player was Gary Player, who was, you know, if he's even alive, you know, way old Guy. But Gary Player's signature thing. He always dressed in black. So in honor of Gary Player, Guy went out and bought an entire. No, wait, you need to hear this entire new black. Black outfit. He's telling me I got new black shoes and black pants and black shirt. And I'm thinking. And I said, guy, you're a girl. This is what girls talk about. And he goes, and I bought new clubs.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

So, Kathy, let me ask you something. Did you get a new outfit for Carmel?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

No. No. That's. That's why I was laughing. I said, guy, you got to be kidding me. And then. And then we're talking about golf handicaps because remember on one of our recent episodes we had Keith and he. And he was saying he's got like a 7 or a 10.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I don't know, pretty.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I personally cannot count that low. But he was talking about his head. And so I told Guy that. And Guy starts panicking. I said, guy, it doesn't matter. Have a couple of drinks. It'll all be fine. He goes, I don't drink. I said, perfect time to start.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

It's all about playing the game. It doesn't matter what you're.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Anyway, Guy, if you're listening, can't wait to see you.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Can't wait to play against you guys.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Susan and I will. I told him I was hooking up, playing with Keith because I needed that low handicapped offset vibe. He was dying.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Anyway, today, it will be fun. It will be fun.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

It's gonna be great fun. But today, while I'm sniffling, we're gonna answer some more of your fan questions. And guys, we. You know the drill. But if you don't one more time, make sure you're submitting them to bachelornation.com golden hour. Just write us in your comments, your thoughts. Susan and I not only like to answer them on air, seriously, don't we talk about them off air, too? Absolutely.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

And you remember them when someone else asks some Kind of a question. And you refer back. It's crazy, but please send us everything. Your questions, your updates, even something that we talked about and you did already, and you finished it. Whether you used our advice or not, let us know. And remember, you can also DM us on Instagram. Bachelorhappy hour. Okay, time to get in into the episode. Let's start Kathy with the question of the day.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay. All right. Susan, is it? Here we go. It's not moral quandary. I just want an answer.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Thank you, Lord.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Is it healthy to be any amount of jealous in a relationship?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

And.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, I'm so glad you're answering this first.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, God. So I think I know in my brain that you shouldn't be jealous, but a little bit.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay, you know where I'm going. Tell me what that means. Define jealous.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

To me, it would mean, like, you really care. Like, you know, you care. I hate the word jealous. Like, non trusting. Is that what you mean by jealous?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I'm just. To me, jealousy means it's symptomatic in my mind of not. Of not trust. Yes, for me it is. And it's, you know, if a guy is asking me, well, who are you on the phone with? Or, why can't I come over tonight? Or, you know, what are you doing? Why can't you take my phone call? That's jealousy. And that means a lack of trust. So, yeah, I don't like it.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah. But no, to answer the question, no, it is not healthy.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I agree. If there's trust, it's going to be a great day. We're agreeing right off the bat, yay us or agree. We agreed. We agreed.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You said we're green. I'm like, what's green?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, that's just my voice. Because I can't talk with all the cedar fever in my throat here. But no, I think. I think that you're right, and I don't like jealousy. I think it's not a good look on a man or a woman.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I don't even like the word jealous. Sometimes you can be envious of someone or something. You know what I mean?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But that's different. You know what? That's when you say that people confuse the meaning of the. Not to be an English teacher here. But jealousy, as you just pointed out, is not envy. I don't think either one are particularly attractive. But all right.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But we're human.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

All right, so we're gonna move on. We've settled that question of the day. We're gonna get going with our fan questions.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I love These.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

So let's get into them and I'm gonna go ahead and read the first one and we'll see. It's from Anonymous. And just to remind everyone, if you're uncomfortable using your name, please write us anyway. You can just say Anonymous and we will still answer your question.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Absolutely.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay, here we go. Kathy and Susan. Help me, please. I'm freaking out right now. My boyfriend and I have been together for six months and we just found out our parents went on a first date. They sat us down and told us the other night. They're saying that after they met due to us dating, quote, one thing led to another and they just started connecting. I'm starting to think it's more than just one date, but according to them, it was just the one. Is this totally weird and incestual or should we support them? I really, really like my boyfriend, but this is just so strange. He and I haven't talked about it yet because we're taking space to think on things. Oh, Susan, goodness.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I think this is awesome.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

So do I.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Just think you met. You let two people meet each other organically, which is everything we always dreamed of.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Exactly. What's wrong with it? Stop freaking out and let me say. I want to say to everyone, it's only incestual. Anonymous. If your mother is sleeping with your brother or you, that is what incest is. If she is dating your boyfriend's father, that's called a date.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

How fun would that be? When they're getting together, though, you wouldn't have to do two different visits. You could all do it at once. I love this.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

It is not intentional. You may feel it's weird, but you know what, Anonymous, I would encourage you to think about, I don't know, if it's your mom or your dad and whether it's his mom and dad or whether the mom's dating the mom and the dad just dating the dad.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I don't care.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Whatever it is, try to celebrate love. Try to celebrate dating. Try to celebrate the fact that we're all looking for someone to care about and love. And if this is, as Susan said, how they've organically met, try to accept it. It may feel a little weird at first, but, you know, focus on your.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Boyfriend and you never mind about them. Let them do them. You know, I think it's wonderful, but thank you so much for the Let us know what that is. I love it.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I know we've never had a question like that. Anonymous, let us know what happens. And as I always plug for Susan, if they decide to get married. Susan is a wedding officiant, so give her a call. Or you, or you. I'll be the maid of honor. All right.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Thanks again for writing in and good luck. And just try to accept Like Kathy said.

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[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

All right, question number two is from Erin. Hey, ladies, I need your help because I'm concerned. I'm being harsh. The other day, my mom told me she wants my kids to call her mama as her grandma name. That's what I want them to call me as I'm their actual mom. She was asking me if it was okay. She told me. I didn't know how to react. Oh, God. So I sort of was speechless. She seemed upset when I didn't immediately say yes with excitement. But she's also been talking to my kids, 4 years old and 1 year old, and referring to herself as mama, Mama loves you, and so on. What do I do about this? Is this weird or am I being too sensitive?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Can I take the first crack at this one?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Sure you can.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Is she. Is this anonymous? Let me look back.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

It's weird.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Erin. It's Erin. Aaron, let me say to you, Erin, these are your children. When I have two grandchildren and Susan has several. I don't know about you, Susan, but when I had. When my oldest son, my only son who has a child asked me what my grandmother name, what I wanted to be called, I said I wanted to be called Kiki. And they looked at me, they said, kiki. That was my nickname as a child. And they said, you don't want to be grandma. I said, no, and I don't want to be granny. And I said, if it's okay with you, I'd like to be Kiki. And that's how my kids. And actually a guy I dated for.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

10 minutes called, so how do you feel about mama?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I think it is up to Aaron to say mom, Mama. You know what I would say? Mama. This mama isn't comfortable with calling you mama. Kids are confused easily. We're not going there, literally. Erin, just say to her, no, I don't want.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

No, that's a mom's name.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

That's a mom's name. I'm their mom. You can be Grandma, you can be Kiki, you can be Mimi, you can be Gigi, you can be any other name you want, but you cannot. Do you agree or not?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I certainly do. Mama is a mommy's name. And I don't know why your mother's thinking this way, but she said, is it weird?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I think it is weird. The mother wants to be called Mama. I do. So don't allow it, Erin. She'll get over it. Grandma. Granny will be just fine when your 4 year old and 1 year old start calling her whatever the name is.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Can I just say Erin? It's weird. Yes, you are right. It is very weird. You're not in the butt before it gets too far.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay, Erin, let us know though before we move on here. Aaron, let us know if you need.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Me to call your mother. I could do that.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

And trust me, when Susan tells her the way it's going to be, trust me, Aaron, that's the way it's going. All right, here's our next question.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You're getting all the anonymous.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

It's okay, we don't care. Because you know what the questions, and we've said this before, if you want to write in anonymously, feel free. Because the questions you're asking don't pertain to your name. Whatever you're thinking, lots of other people are thinking too. So just keep writing away, keep sending.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Stuff and you can help other people without even realizing that's right.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay, Anonymous writes, hey Susan and Kathy, I need your help. My oldest is at the age where it's time to have the sex talk, but we have a big problem. My husband is hell bent on going the abstinence route and I'm incredibly frustrated. I never thought he would want to do this, but he refuses to have us tell our daughter anything other than don't have sex. I wanted to have this conversation with just her and me, but he's insisting on being in the room. How do I go about talking to him about this? Is he right? Any advice would be great. Thanks, ladies.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Well, can I just tell you, my husband and I had the same issue?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Really?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, he was all about abstinence until you are married and I said it is 2000 and whatever it was. Okay. Absolutely not. I don't know if you're going to love this advice, Kath, but obviously he's hell bent and it's her daughter. You have a private one on one with her between you and her. Okay, you need to talk.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Are you okay, we're. We're really getting into this. Everybody. You're going to love this conversation. I. Let me. Let me first.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Let me finish. Let me finish.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Wait. Would you supply birth control to her?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Depends on her age.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Well, that's.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

That's so.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But. Okay.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I mean, she's only just having the talk. You're not ready for birth control.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Dear God, I hope so. That is so funny you said that, Susan, because the first thing I was going to say is. Anonymous. I'm guessing you have waited, like many people do, until your daughter, in this case, is a teenager. If you haven't had the talk about sex and what it means to be a mom at a young age or a dad, the responsibility, the cost, if you haven't done that before, they're a teenager, that the hormones have taken over. And, you know, I don't think, personally, abstinence works. I think I love the saying, abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

It's absence.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I know.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Making a joke.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Come on, work with me here.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I just think he's, like. He's hiding behind a rock somewhere.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Well, I think I would have the conversation. Anonymous. My husband and I were in agreement. So, you know, we. We got our daughter birth control. And, you know, some people are going to say, oh, you're just inviting your child to have sex. No, what I'm inviting is to disinvite uninvited, unwanted pregnancy. I talk to my children about safe sex. You know, being on the pill is not. Is. Does. Is not the solution.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You keep you from getting dead. Right.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

There's a lot of communicable diseases, Anonymous. There's a whole lot more at stake than when, unfortunately, I was young and STDs were few and far between, but that's not the case anymore. So it's a bigger conversation with your husband than pregnancy. It's about STDs. It's about respect. It's about love. It's about, how do you want to remember your first time? Those are the conversations I had with my daughter. Did you have those with yours?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Absolutely did. And my sons. And it was funny because the things I'd say to my son, they were like, mom, seriously, I go, boys, you know, you got to learn, you know what no means? Yes, mom, we know no means no. I know. Even if she's going now and while you're doing something and you think no, she's just say no. No means no. You don't want to go to jail.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You don't want to rape. That's What I'm saying, there's so much more explaining. The sex talk is not just about should my, you know, approve of my daughter having sex or my son. It's so much more than that.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

It's.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

That's where the respect comes in. I was trying to sort of put it under an umbrella.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Boys are the worst because they. They're like, serious, Mom, Mom. I go, listen, Daddy says, you wait till you get married. Mommy says. And then I just said, one more question, guys. They go, what? I said, are you comfortable buying a condom? They're like, oh, my. Mom, they have the men's room at the mall. I go, what? You already know this? I was a little late.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Susan's boys were eight. They went from the Lego store. They went from the Lego store to the boys room at the mall. I'm kidding.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Anonymous conversation. Also, she asked, how do I go about talking to him about this? You need to go privately with your husband as a babe. It's not just about saying it's okay to have sex. It's about educating your child.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I have a better idea. Susan. Anonymous. Play this. Play this podcast for him. Let him hear what we say, because Anonymous is husband. We are two women who have raised children. We both have daughters, girls and boys. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We have girls, we have boys. We've had the talk. We have grandchildren. We've seen it all. And so you're, you know, you're. You're on the new frontier here. So.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

And it's Daddy's little girl. I understand where he's coming from. I do. However, get with the times. Be upfront with your kids. Don't wait too long.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah, I love that. All right, so Kat, let us know. Wait, Anonymous, Just let us know how it goes. And if she does end up pregnant, I'd love her to be named after Susan.

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[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Kathy, it's game time. It's called Red Flag or Red Rose.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, God. Oh, okay, so you're gonna win this game because, you know I don't get roses. Well, you don't get many more than I do either, so it's a toss up.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I got one more.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Let's go, let's go.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

All right, so today we're going to be playing Red Flag or Red Rose. We'll switch off, naming different dating app tactics men use and deciding if we give It a red flag or a red rose and I'll start us off. Are you ready?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Knock yourself out.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Their profile says not looking for a long term partner.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Well, that depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a long term.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Partner, is it a red flag or a red rose?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I just said it depends. I'm looking for a long term partner, so for me it would be a red flag. What about you?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

So, you know, it's funny that that question came up because when I was on the dating sites, I struggled because your choices, you can't write something, but your choices were long term, serious relationship. What were the other ones? Friends. It doesn't say friends with benefits or casual relationship, so it's tough to. But you have to accept what it says. He's not looking for a long term partner, so that's a red rose because he's being honest.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, I'm misunderstanding. A red flag to me means I'm sorry, I give him kudos for. I give him a red flag. Red rose for being honest. For me. I wouldn't, I, I'd scroll on by. So maybe I'm not understanding.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

We're talking about dating app tactics and what we think.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay, I would give him. Or I'm sorry, I would give him a red rose because he's being honest. Okay, the. Their pictures are strictly mirror selfies.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Wait, Kathy. I want to open a business and show a man how to.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

So, guys, we have talked about this. In fact, we're going to talk to our producers. We want to do an episode about teaching men how to write the profiles, what pictures to put up and which one's not. Sir, Gentlemen, available men out there do not take pictures. The red flag in a bathroom. And please keep your shirt on.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Contact us if we get enough of you. We'll do a whole session towards it. All right?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Really? Red flag.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Prompt says, all I ask is that you don't take yourself too seriously.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I don't even. That's kind of a red flag, that one.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

The prompt says the way to win me over is if you're able to sit through a football game even if you don't know what's going on.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I'd be insulted because I understand the game of football.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

So I'd probably give that a red rose. I mean, he's so scared.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I think what these questions are is sort of honest reactions, right? They're just being honest. But I would to that guy, if I were interested in him, I would write a text and say, not only will I sit through the football game with you. We will discuss the plays and what they coulda, shoulda, woulda done.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Do you give them a Rosa? A flag, A rose. Okay, go ahead, do the next one.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

All right. They keep DMing you on the platform. Oh. Instead of asking for your number.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Red flag. Yeah, that's a no brainer. They call themselves a mama boy in their bio.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I'm, I'm, I'm. That guy doesn't get a flag or a rose, he's out of there.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

He should just give it up. That's a red flag to me.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Red flag. Okay, okay. They like you swipe on you first, but they don't send you a DM when you match. Not including bumble. It's. It means they're not interested. It's a red rose.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Well, they swipe because they like the picture. And I guess they'll go back later. I mean.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, I think a lot of guys and you and I have done the same thing. Oh, that guy looks interesting. You, you, you, you.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You know, you go back later and look and go.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

And then you'll get the profile and go, what the hell was I thinking last night?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But I wouldn't give that a red flag.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

No, I'd give it a red rose.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah, I'd give it a red flag.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, he thought better of it. Or she thought better of it. Yeah. Okay.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

They match with you on every dating app, but they never DM you. Red flag.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Red flag. Yep. God, Susan. What? Did we have our Wheaties this morning? Like, what the hell? We're agreeing on every. Okay, they have a picture. Oh, God, I can't even read this. They have a picture with an animal or fish they've hunted.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Red flag. Red flag. Red flag. Red flag.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Red flag. Wait, can I just. Wait, can I just say. Let me just say. I am from Boston. You know, I live in Texas. I know. I'm going to take heat for this. If I never see a guy again with a shirt undone, with a cracked open beer in one hand and a big dead fish hanging from a fishing line ever again, it will not be too soon.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Wait a minute. I didn't even finish. I didn't even hear the rest of it. With an animal or fish they hunted.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I don't care. Red flag.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Unless you're into that, of course.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay, look at me. Look at me. Repeat with me. Red, red flag.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Okay, moving along as your first messaging. They ask what you think the reason is that you haven't found someone yet. Oh, God, they ask that all the time.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

They do. You Know, I don't think that's a flat window. You do? Oh, I do?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You do?

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Why?

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I'll tell you.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

They're curious.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah. I think the question, the, the prompt here says, as your first messaging, I think that's a conversation you and I have talked about. You know, when is it appropriate to talk about this, that, or the other. That's a conversation for later down the road, in my opinion. So to me, a guy, that's a pushy guy. And what. You know, I don't know if we have time here, but I'm just going to quickly tell you. I met a guy. He actually reached out to me on Facebook because we have mutual friends, and he jumped in. Susan already knows this, all of this that I'm telling, but I just want the audience to hear. He jumped in very quickly, you know, how long has it been? So you've had a relationship? He. He jumped in.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

20 questions. Yeah.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah, 20 and 20 deep questions. And I was telling my daughter Caitlin, and you know, and Caitlin said, mom, that is a red flag. She literally used that word. And I said, tell me why. She said, it's too much, too fast. Can I just tell you? After one date with the guy and several phone conversations, she was absolutely right. This guy was running at warp speed. So I think it's a red flag. I do too much.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

First one we're gonna disagree on because I've been asked several times and I've even asked men. Not many, but I mean, when you're looking at a picture and reading a few words about somebody and now you're chatting.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Not on the phone, just by DMs. You say, what's a good looking guy like you? Why are you still alone? And my answer was, I'm really picky, you know, I know what I want. You asked.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I just think it's a weird question when you're first messaging. But, you know, we're agreeing mostly today, so I'll take it. All right. Their first DM is telling you that they're a personality guy.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

There's nothing wrong with that.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

They asked to see you immediately upon matching. I give that a rose, too. I give that a rose. That's how I am.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Well, I'm a little different from you, Susan. We've talked about this too. I would rather talk on the phone first before meeting someone. I kind of want to get a little vibe before I meet them. It can just be one phone call. And for those of you out there, who don't. And I've told Susan to get this, you know, safety first. You don't want to give somebody your. I don't. Anyway. My phone number. First off, I give them my Google phone number. And those of you who don't know what that is, look it up. You can get a phone number.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Two lines.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Huh?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You have two lines. You told me. Yeah, you shared that with me.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But the reason I give the guy the Google number is it's not traceable. He cannot find out where I live. With a cell phone number, you would be amazed what you can find out. So those of you who are on dating my PSA today is get a Google number. You can't be traced. Okay, your turn to go.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

How about the only message. They only message you at odd hours of the evening, 11pm or later, flat.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Red. Red flag.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

How dare you. And that has happened as well.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Susan, would you answer it?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Hell no. Yeah, I mean, well, I have two people that I was really curious or interested in and it was a mistake. So there you go.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

No, I don't even. Well, first of all, I turn my phone on silent when I go to bed. The only time my phone is ringing is if my kids call me. Cause I have them on a special thing. If they call me in the middle of night, my phone rings. I don't know. Susan, we have had. I don't know what to say. We've had so much fun today answering questions. We're agreeing too much. What does this mean? Are we morphing into each other?

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

This doesn't mean anything, Kath. Wait till we get to a different game. You'll see.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But it was fun. I like that game. I'm really serious. Don't you think we should do something about helping? Guys, please.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

So I don't know if enough men are actually listening, but women out there. I know you have friends and your friends have friends. Tell the guys about us. I'm serious. And we could help them. We could tell them to tune in or reach out and not.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Guy was asking me about dating last night. And. And, you know, it's like he goes, oh, you know, you have some good thoughts. I'm like, yeah, because I'm a woman and I've been there. But, you know, here's the thing that I'm. You know, I've been single. It's coming up on I can't Believe It. Almost six years since my husband passed away. I'm realizing that things don't really change that much in the dating world. You said it yourself. On another episode, we're all looking for someone to love and to be loved. That's kind of universal at this point. You know, it just. It looks a little different at our age.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But it's about the dating apps that we were talking about today. I mean, at one point, I was opposed to ever going on them again. And then you sit and you're by yourself for a while, and you go, let's check it out. And then only to find the same people on there. Why haven't they found anybody? You get discouraged. But then again, it is the way of the world.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Well, but it really is. Well, it is and it isn't. I mean, I read something recently that said people, they're going back to more organic ways.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You know, meeting in clubs or somebody introducing you.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah. Who was saying that to us when we interviewed? Was it Keith, I want to say. And he said he was on the.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

He went back on.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. But he said most of his dates come from friends.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Friends of friends.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

But you know what the problem for women is? There's more single women than men.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

There's more women in the world than men, when you think about it. And we're growing older, and I truly believe men kind of go first. So that makes it even. The odds are even worse.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

And what is the other fact that, you know, it's always been a hot button for me, but I've had to accept it. Men usually are looking for younger women.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I don't think we have. We should put our ages down. Not until after you get to know somebody so they know how old you are.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

On the dating app, Susan, you have to put your age down. In fact, a friend said to me, I should lie, but I'm not going to.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I know.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Oh, boy.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You know, like I said, this goes so fast, but I know it. Does anybody that's listening tell the men to reach out? We are not opposed to helping them out. Get a better profile, better selfies. Yeah.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

In the meantime, Susan, friends pick friends up. So I'm going to be on the lookout for you. Okay, folks, that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy hours Golden hour. We've had a blast. We hope we've helped you with our questions. Thanks so much for tuning in.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

Yes. And those guys that did anonymouses, we're really thinking about those questions. We really are. So let us know and be sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming out every week. And you guys do not not want to miss these.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

You don't think about it. Who wants to miss this. But listen, we just said anonymous questions. We don't care. You don't need to assign a name to it. We're going to answer the question regardless, so feel free to reach out to us. Very simple. Go to bachelornation.com golden hour or DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

And listen to your Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the I Heart Radio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Ciao for now.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

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[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

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[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

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[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

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[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic representative of Texas. She's holding down the fort for her party in one of the most conservative states in the union.

[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

I think that ultimately who will become.

[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

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[Kathy (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

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[Susan (Bachelor Happy Hour Co-host)]

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