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Kathy
Hey everyone, we're back for part two with Jared Freed. Let's get right into it. So since you are a man of truth, intelligence.
Jared Freed
That's me.
Kathy
Good looking.
Jared Freed
I am not.
Kathy
Until our listeners want to know, we we answer questions. Susan and I answer questions every week. But you know, we're not so smart. We don't have the life experience experience that you have.
Jared Freed
That's right.
Kathy
So we thought you might join us today and help us with some golden advice.
Jared Freed
I love you're not golden. Let's do it.
Susan
All right, I'm gonna go with the first one. My name is Britt and I'm 33 years old. I've been dating for years and at this point I really just want to find my person, settle down and hopefully start a family someday. I've been seeing a guy for the past couple of months and overall he's honestly great. He's kind Has a great job, a close family and treats me really well. But there's one thing that keeps bothering me. Oh boy. And I can't tell if I'm overreacting or if it's actually a red flag. He's an extremely picky eater to the point where I usually let him choose where we go for dinner because I know he. He's particular about food. But even when he picks the restaurant himself, half the time he still can't find anything he wants to eat and then spends the rest of the night complaining about being hungry. It genuinely drives me crazy because I'm always thinking then why did you choose this place? I know it probably sounds minor, but it started to feel bigger to me because it affects almost every. Every date night and honestly just feels exhausting. Part of me worries I'm being too picky or dramatic, especially because I really do want a long term relationship and don't want to throw away something good over a habit. But another part of me wonders if little incompatibilities like this actually matter more than we think in the long run. Yes, dear. So I need your honest advice. Is this something I should just accept and laugh off or does this kind of behavior become a bigger issue over time? Help.
Kathy
What do you say? No, we want to know what you think.
Susan
I know what she has to.
Jared Freed
She has two problems. There's two problems here. It's not the food and being picky because there's. Everyone's dating someone that doesn't enjoy things they enjoy. This is. That's a normal thing to have different with your partner. Like I. It's very important for me to connect on food with my partner. You know, that's something I love to do with Emily. I like to go out to eat and we eat so much that we hate ourselves and then we agree to not touching in bed for 24 hours. It's like our favorite pastime. Now wait a minute.
Kathy
You sleep with her?
Jared Freed
Oh yes. Separate beds.
Kathy
Okay.
Jared Freed
Separate beds. If we eat too much, then she does the guest room and that's. And I do the regular room. So I. The. So the. But the. For this person that might not be as important for her I would have a huge bigger issue with him picking the place and then complaining about how hungry his later. Like that takes a level of la. That's a lack of ownership of your decisions. Like that could be made into a bigger real issue. And what she needs to do is to stop saying to herself I'm 33 and been dating for years. Like so like it's a combination of those two. One, you have an issue that's you're not attracted to and two, you're afraid of losing. Okay. To then be back in the situation of dating again. She's freaked herself out of dating again so much that she's not even willing to have a normal conversation with her boyfriend. So that's her biggest issue is that she's so afraid of being single again that she won't communicate with her now boyfriend to make it a great relationship. So she's just settling for an okay one where she's not talking about this. Does that make sense?
Susan
Yes, it makes sense. But I, I see something deeper because she mentions there over time it will get bigger. You will resent him. You will not want to go to dinner with him ever.
Jared Freed
Right. And she's. But she's not bringing it up. But that's because she's afraid of being single.
Susan
Talk about. And he's picking the place. Pack him a freaking goodie bag what he likes.
Kathy
No, no, no, Susan, Jared's right.
Susan
I think it'll. It'll hurt them in the long run.
Jared Freed
It will. But this is, this issue's. This is a. In the book walking Red flag, which you can preorder now you. These are called 10 cent fights. 10 cent fights turn into $10 fights the more you push them off. This is a 10 cent fight you deal with.
Susan
Right.
Jared Freed
Every time you're complaining about a place that you chose.
Susan
What?
Jared Freed
Why are you complaining about it? That's a fight that a couple can have and can survive from. You can't survive from. I resent you so much because 20 years sound like an idiot 20 years later. Right.
Susan
She's saying that he does it every time he complains afterwards. I wouldn't want to go.
Jared Freed
She's just listening to it. She's not even calling him out.
Susan
Right, right.
Jared Freed
Call him out on it.
Kathy
But listen what I'm saying.
Jared Freed
There's books on tape you can get my book on.
Susan
We can get your book.
Jared Freed
Pre order now. Walking red.
Kathy
Pre order now on walking Red flag. Red flag. Flag.
Susan
You heard it here.
Kathy
Here's my question though, guys. I don't think any of this has to do with food picking the restaurants. Picky eater. I think this is a whole different issue.
Jared Freed
He doesn't go down on her. You're right that this was all just to say, oh, sorry, he's very picky.
Kathy
You know what? Right before I go and order my book on Amazon, I'm in Lisbon, Portugal. I'm heading over to the Ferrari Dealer. Because I'm going to have way better luck there. I'm saying I think it's about control. There's something else going on with this guy. It has nothing, in my opinion, to do with being hungry.
Susan
It's.
Kathy
He's. There's something else going on.
Jared Freed
But Kathy, I. That may be the case, but I'm telling you with like, especially with when, when someone wants to argue with me, I think men live very much in the tangible and not very much in the intangible. Like what you're saying is like years of therapy. Like men don't like therapy because they want to like Mr. Fix It. You know, they want to go, well, what's on off switch. So she needs to attack the issue, not the diagnosis that he has this big fucked up problem. Well, the issue is you're a, you're a 10 year old. Who, who is. It's making me not want to.
Kathy
You.
Jared Freed
Every time you order chicken fingies and then you complain about the chicken fingies not being that good. You're annoying about this. Let's talk it out. And if he, if he can't have that conversation. She's afraid she's going to be single. And I would say to her, you're 33, you're young, you're beautiful. You listen to this podcast. You must be amazing. You'll be okay. So don't you know what they say, Kathy? You know, scared money never wins. Isn't that the.
Susan
Why I never heard that.
Jared Freed
What Scared money never wins? When you play with money that you're afraid of losing, you lose. So this person is playing with scared money because they're so afraid of being single again. 33 have been dating for years, I find. Yeah, shut the up. Dating free. I Every time someone says I've been dating for years, what do you think? Some of us all. Everyone has.
Kathy
I haven't yet.
Susan
We still are.
Jared Freed
Let's do another one.
Susan
Okay, go for it.
Kathy
Okay, here we go. Hi, Kathy and Susan. My name is Rachel. I'm 39 and lately I've started to feel really discouraged about the whole dating experience. I used to get excited about meeting people and believe dating would eventually lead to finding a real partner and building a life together. But now it honestly feels like dating has lost a lot of its meaning.
Susan
Meaning?
Kathy
Everything feels so casual, temporary and surface level. People say they want a relationship but then disappear the second things require effort, vulnerability, or consistency. The hardest part is that I genuinely do want love. I want marriage, a family and a real partnership someday. But lately I've caught myself wondering if that kind of relationship is even realistic anymore or if I build it up too much in my head. My friends are all either married, engaged, or having babies. And while I'm so happy for them, I'd be lying if I said it doesn't make me feel left behind. Sometimes I'm trying to stay hopeful, but I can feel myself becoming more guarded and cynical with every disappointing experience. How do you keep your heart open without completely burning out from dating?
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Susan
Thanks.
Jared Freed
Let me give some. Can I. Can I speak directly to Rachel and just let her know that I think she's wonderful and I think she's deserving of love. And I do believe at some point she will find love, because there's really a but for every seat. So you're gonna be fine, Rachel.
Kathy
Do you really believe that?
Jared Freed
I do. I do believe that. I think Rachel's in her own way.
Susan
Why?
Jared Freed
Because she just wrote into us everything she repeats to everyone at every turn and every opportunity she gets.
Susan
Poor me.
Jared Freed
She's a horrible first date because she's miserable and you are a genius. I'm just. Thank you. I, I, I. And I don't mean to be mean to her because I, I'm trying to be upfront with her so she can hear it. She's not. Listen. She just gave us everything she wrote. Can I just tell her I've heard that speech from every single woman that's ever existed in the year 2010 through 2026? She just called. Did what I call. She just did her blog. All that she just said is stuff we've heard before. We've said it. We've heard it. It's a speech that every. Everyone's disposable. Anytime someone says, oh, disposable, everyone disappears. I, I've heard it until they don't. Until they don't. So, like, I think Rachel, the problem she has is her words are really making everyone avoid her. Like, she's not. She needs to start getting local instead of national. She needs to concentrate on a good first date. That's it. She's so into everyone disappears, and she's so into telling everyone.
Susan
Her.
Jared Freed
Her hot take on dating, which isn't even original, isn't even new. That she's making everyone want to get away from her.
Susan
Her.
Jared Freed
Honest to God, all my friends are married and having babies. I could have given you her speech before she gave it. I've heard it so many times. And that's also because I'm in the dating space, so I Get it. But I'm just saying she's got to delete the apps. She needs a refresh, she's got to delete them. She's got to go hang out with her married friends. She needs to hang out with her married friends and get her groove back and find out what it feels like to hang out with people who she's not trying to get something from. Because right now she dates to get something. She dates to get love, to get a relationship, to get married, to get babies. Go hang out with people and relearn. She has forgotten what it's like to hang out with people who don't owe you and you don't owe them. They're just people who love fun, right? And then here's the additional advice. Those people you hang out with, their husbands, they're not gonna fix you up. But you want to be the first name that husband thinks of when she, he thinks of single woman. Because all you're going to get out of your friend's husbands at a, at a bet at maximum, a friend's husband will go, oh, Rachel's cool. That's it. That's all you're going to get. You're not going to get fixed up. You're going to have your friend who's going to go, oh, isn't your friend Jason available? And he'll go, yeah, Rachel's cool. She's going to change her whole branding to the friend and her husband right now. They wouldn't fix you up. You need to go hang out with them. And this feels slow, but it's going to be less miserable than the road you're going to.
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Kathy
I have a question. I think this is what you're saying. It seems to me that this Rachel who's 39 is probably scared, times running out, all those things, you know, that the clock's ticking. She wants a kid. She's 39, so there's probably part of that going on. But I also think, I think you were saying this, that she comes to every relationship with this premeditated, you know, she's got her, her gay book, she already knows how the date's going to go. So. So that's the energy she puts out. Is that what you're saying?
Jared Freed
Well, no, I would say it's like going to the casino and saying the only way I had fun is if I won a million dollars. You know, what if you win 10 bucks? What if you win a hundred bucks? What if you have a good first
Susan
date, you know what I'm saying? But I had fun because it was.
Jared Freed
Yeah, yeah. But I had a good time. That's why I went to the casino to have a good time.
Kathy
No, I thought, I thought you were saying that she comes, which is kind of what I read out of this that she comes to every relationship with sort of her checklist and they're not, and then they're not meeting the checklist she had. And then she, then she goes, oh yeah, Jared, he's one of those guys, you know, she compartmentalized.
Jared Freed
That's even. I just think she's miserable and I think that rub that. And I think there's no win for her other than getting married and having babies. And then here's what's going to happen. She's going to have all that and she's going to hate her life that she's built because she never had fun along the way to see if she actually likes the person. I just, I, I, I just think if she backed away. Cuz her whole speech, I've heard it before, it's just crazy. Like I, I can't believe how original she thinks it is. Like I, I, I just, if I were her, she has friends, she referenced her friends. Go hang out with them without trying to get something from them. Like go have a fun night with your friend and their husband and be fun. Be the fun Rachel that they, that we know lives inside. And just do that. See what happens, you need. Because what happens is when you're single and I've been in this, you just go on date after date after date and then you forget what it's like to be a human. You forget what it's like to like be yourself and like do those stupid, you know, fun things with your friends that you do. And then you go, oh, this is, this is what I do. Oh yeah.
Susan
Something that she said. Everything feels so casual, temporary and surface level to me. You're going on this date hoping that you're going to have that chemistry he's going to be. And then they, you know, drift away. It's because you're not being you. Now me, I scared half the people that didn't want to call me back because I am me on every day.
Jared Freed
You'd rather. But that's a win fail fast. You know, like, but, but she's like, she's on that, you know when she says everyone's casual. You don't have to be casual.
Susan
Don't try to win them, they're trying to win you. That's how I would go on a date. Look at me.
Kathy
No.
Susan
And let's have fun.
Kathy
I think she's coming with guys. I think she's coming with a checklist. I'm 39. Yeah, because you have a good.
Jared Freed
Yeah, but that's part of it.
Kathy
But then, but see, that's the problem. She's saying they're coming casual. They're not coming casual. They're coming to have a date to see if there's any connection.
Jared Freed
Right.
Kathy
She's on the first date scene. Is this guy any.
Jared Freed
Here's the thing. Guys say after you. What do, what do guys say on dating apps? And I'm not saying this is right, but you have to just understand the beast that you're trying to, to, to battle. They yeah, you're trying to tame this beast. Guys say, I'm just looking to have fun. I don't want someone who takes it too seriously. That's every guy says that I just going to have fun. I don't want anyone to takes it too seriously. That's okay. I, I, I think you just listen to that. So are you fun? A first date is meant to be fun. That guy is not wrong.
Susan
You got laugh.
Jared Freed
You can be fun while also admitting to what we're going towards. I can have fun on a day while also saying I'd like to have a family one day.
Susan
I, I agree.
Kathy
Yeah.
Susan
And that's what I did for years.
Kathy
And leave the checklist at home. Rachel.
Susan
All right, we have another one.
Jared Freed
Okay.
Kathy
All right.
Susan
Hi, friends. My name is AMANDA and I'm 27. I honestly don't even know where to begin when it comes to dating, so I could really use some advice. I'm not really a bar person and I truly hate dating apps. I've tried them, but they just make me feel drained and discouraged more than anything else. I do participate in a lot of activities and hobbies that I genuinely enjoy, and I try to stay social and put myself out there, but they're not really the kinds of environments where people flirt or ask each other out. I've actually never had a boyfriend before, and sometimes I feel embarrassed admitting that. At my age, I think people assume relationships just naturally happen for everyone, but for me, they never really have. I'm friendly, social, and open to meeting someone. I just honestly never get asked out. At this point, I feel less confused about relationships themselves and more confused about how people even get dates in the first place. It seems like everyone else knows some unspoken rule that that I somehow missed. I'm trying not to lose confidence, but it's hard not to wonder if something is wrong with me. And when years keep going by without anything ever really happening, romantically So I guess my question is, how do people actually meet someone naturally these days? And if you were someone who found love later than your friends, how did you stay hopeful in the meantime? Thank you. My heart's breaking for her.
Kathy
I know.
Jared Freed
Yeah.
Susan
My heart's breaking. Breaking. I feel so bad. I have no words. That's unusual.
Jared Freed
I have some words.
Susan
You better have them.
Jared Freed
This story, she's got to. She's got to figure out a new ladder statement because she just brought three people to tears.
Susan
I swear to God.
Jared Freed
With her. I. Well, she's got to start. Figure out how she talks about herself because she's fun. She does everything I do. What are the hobbies? What do you like to do? You know, I. This idea that 27 never had a relationship. No one's the thing.
Susan
Asked her.
Jared Freed
Well, I. I think that that's more normal than she wants. I. I know she's telling. She's written her own rom com.
Susan
Well, what about her asking somebody else out?
Jared Freed
She can ask me why, but I. I think, like, it starts with. Your story's not that original. Here you go again. Well, I'm just saying.
Kathy
Jared, you are.
Susan
You are this poor girl.
Jared Freed
I'm just saying that. I've heard this before. 27, and never having a relationship isn't something to be embarrassed about.
Kathy
No. She said she's never had a dick.
Susan
Never even been asked out.
Kathy
She's never been asked on a date.
Jared Freed
I mean. And you guys keep screaming it out. Quiet. We don't need to keep. You know, you guys are all.
Host 1
All.
Jared Freed
I'm not harsh. I'm trying to concentrate on the good, which is. She said she has hobbies and she likes to participate in a lot of things. But then she's going, but no one asked me out of those things. No, no, keep with your hobbies. I. Every guy wants to meet a woman who likes things, who has interests. So dig into those interests. I love when I get lore. I love hearing about what you're interested in because then I don't have to do. I don't have to talk. Okay. I want to hear about your. So she's got stuff she likes, so that's a good.
Susan
But you don't flirt at those things.
Jared Freed
She said, fine, but then.
Kathy
Wait, wait. Maybe her activities. Hold on, guys. My advice to single women and Susan's heard this always is Jared. Do the things you love and the right people will come into your life. However, Amanda, if you are in a sewing circle or you are in a needlepoint class, or you are. You're not going to be.
Susan
What's that stuff called that they spin in your mold?
Jared Freed
Pottery class.
Kathy
Pottery.
Jared Freed
I don't know.
Kathy
I'm saying tennis.
Jared Freed
What if the only event she does are at the retirement home? Mahjong and sewing. Mahjong's in, actually. Right.
Susan
It's really wives that husbands.
Jared Freed
No, Rajang's getting in for, like people in their 20s and 30s. It's like. It's a thing.
Susan
Like backgammon was for us.
Jared Freed
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Backgammon too. There's a backgammon club in New York that I get emails from all the time.
Susan
I love that I play well.
Jared Freed
Kathy. I. Let me. What you're. What you're saying Join a.
Kathy
Join a sailing club. Join a running club. Join. I don't care if you're not a bar girl. Join a. Something where there's men.
Jared Freed
No, disagree. Just. I'm sorry, Kathy.
Kathy
Or go break up Jared and Emily because he's interested. I give up.
Jared Freed
I agree with her. I think her. She. Let's. I'm being harsh, but like, let's stick to the positive. She has interests.
Susan
Yes.
Jared Freed
She. Let's say she does go to female heavy clubs. Go out with those women. Let's go out with those women and go have a night. The sewing club. Now let's go do a sewing club bar night. Or do a sewing club night. Park day. We're going to have during the day and we all get to know each other in this different way. The sewing club women have sewing club husbands. What's your deal? I'm single. Oh, my God. My husband's got a friend. This. I. I think we have to swim with the current. Telling this sewer to go join the catamaran club is crazy. Kathy.
Kathy
Yeah. Okay. So we're going to go find a yenta because that's what you're saying. Sand. You find somebody that can figure.
Jared Freed
Every group has a yenta. Every group has an. An annoying Kathy that's going to speak up for them.
Susan
It's called Karen. It's a Karen.
Jared Freed
Same thing.
Kathy
I can't get a date myself, Jared. Trust me, I'm not fit. I'm not working out for anybody else.
Jared Freed
But I'm just saying swim with the current. I. I don't think she should change her life upside down to go find a man. That doesn't seem to be her strong suit. Her strong suit is that she has hobbies and interests. So let's dig into those and find a group there that you can go to dinner with.
Kathy
I have interviewed and talked with a lot of guys in their 20s and 30s. And they all said it's really difficult when you see a gaggle of women who are to go up and approach that. It's much easier if you see one or two women at a bar or in a thing, you know, at a group activity. So I think if you know her sewing club is out there. I think you're asking a lot. That guy at 41. At 41, you're old, you've done it all. But you know what? She's 27. She's trying to find an age appropriate guy who probably doesn't have the confidence. You know what I'm saying?
Jared Freed
Kathy, you're, you're missing a huge piece of this, okay? She's never been approached, never been on a date, never. Never had someone come up to her. Her at a bar, getting a guy to come up to her, that's something that we can't really push. And, and she doesn't like the bar scene. Right. The insecurities of men who can't go up to women of big groups. That's not what I'm getting into. I think this person with interests and hobbies, if you dig into those interests and hobbies and make friend groups through those interests and hobbies, you're swimming with the current. And now friends have friends. But you're saying don't go out with those people.
Kathy
No, I'm saying get involved in activities where there are both sexes.
Jared Freed
No, do. Do the things you already do. Like I, I think like that. Like to me, like join a saw, you know, a kickball team. Because there's men. No, no, go hang out with the women that are at the sewing club and go, that's your group. And now you get confidence through that group. It's a slower process. I'm telling you, I'm not gonna go up to someone in a bar, whether it's two people or four people. But if someone said to me, my friend is that I met in sewing class is like such a cool chick and she is looking to meet someone and I think you'd be great for her. Here are some pictures. Check her out. And I'm like, wow, she's pretty cute. Yeah, let's make it happen. That's like a high level date, you know, that's not like a, a high end, you know, buying customer, you know, as opposed to hope for a rando to come up to me.
Susan
Amanda, Amanda, pay attention. You're only 27. You're doing everything right. Enjoy what you do. Stop worrying about it. And yes, Some people look at our little guest today. How old are we? 41. And he's just now saying, yes, first real serious relationship. So don't give up. You're only 27 and the right one hasn't approached you. That, that's all. And don't be afraid. If you are interested in somebody and you have your eye on somebody. I love this one. You go drop the napkin with your phone number on it and say, oh, you might want to look. Look at that.
Jared Freed
I think that's, like, ahead of her, where she's at right now. She's writing into us with her violin, you know, story about how she's never met anyone. I, I, I just think she has to acknowledge it's not that weird to have never dated someone when you're 27. It's really not in the hookup culture that we live in today with the one offs. I, we don't even know if it's true from her because a lot of people write into me, I've never had a relationship, but they've had millions of relationships. They just don't call them relationships. It wasn't a guy that was like, you're my girlfriend. It's like, well, those are relationships. You hooked up with a guy for three months.
Susan
That's a relationship. That's a relationship.
Jared Freed
You know? So I, I think, like, a lot of people speak into themselves this tragic tale because all of us want to be this, like, overcame the odds. Look at all these people that get married. They make a tik tok. I. A year ago, I was sitting here in Lisbon and I was wishing on a star for a boyfriend, and look at me now.
Kathy
Wow.
Jared Freed
Like, women want that. So I'm not really giving in to that. I'm saying, she's doing just fine. It's not that weird if I went on a date with a girl who's 27 and said, I've never really had a boyfriend, but I had some people I dated for a few months here and there. I wouldn't be so weirded out by that.
Susan
No, there's nothing to be weird.
Kathy
Okay, so, Jared, we have one more question, and this is from Kathy from Austin, Texas. What the hell am I doing?
Jared Freed
How do I, how do I find a converter in Lisbon to charge my vibrator? Okay, Kathy, you're not Kathy, you're not doing anything wrong. You're in Lisbon. I got a great restaurant for you there.
Kathy
Great.
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Susan
All right, we got a new one. You ready for this?
Jared Freed
Yeah.
Susan
The man Slater. You're gonna. You're gonna have a ball with this one. We're gonna give you a common text from a guy, and you have to tell us what they actually mean from a man's point of view.
Jared Freed
Okay.
Susan
She's just a friend.
Jared Freed
She's just a friend. Yeah. I would need more context, but is this your boyfriend that texts you this?
Susan
You know as much as we do? Work with it. Come on.
Jared Freed
She's just a friend.
Susan
She's just a friend.
Jared Freed
I would never marry her.
Susan
Okay.
Kathy
All right, here's the next one.
Jared Freed
At a minimum, at a plain and simple, I would never.
Susan
I was thinking more on the terms, like, you're a girl, and she's. He's saying. She's asking a question, and he says, she's just a friend.
Jared Freed
Yeah. I would never marry her.
Kathy
Yeah, that's what he's saying. If you text that to a friend,
Jared Freed
it means whoever that woman is he's talking about, he would never marry.
Susan
Okay.
Kathy
Okay, how about this one? A guy text to whomever. I'm bad at texting.
Jared Freed
I don't care enough about you to get back as quickly as you think I should.
Susan
Okay. I don't want to hurt you.
Jared Freed
I don't want to hurt you means I'm going to hurt you if I make a promise right now that you want me to make.
Kathy
Oh, my God. Which is. Leads right into the next one. I'm scared of commitment.
Jared Freed
I'm scared of commitment. I want to keep. That's. He's saying. Exactly. I. I would say that's a. That. If someone wrote, I'm scared of commitment, I'd be like, that's a really honest, nice guy.
Susan
All of these sound like he. He's just not that into you.
Jared Freed
Well, I don't like that term. I don't like. He's not that into you. That's. That.
Susan
All right. I'm just keeping things casual.
Jared Freed
I'm. I don't want to be in a committed relationship, but do you want to
Kathy
go to bed with her?
Jared Freed
Yeah, I'll you. But I'm not gonna go to your cousin's christening.
Susan
I like you. I'm just confused.
Jared Freed
I like having sex with you, and I want the relationship to Stay as it currently stands.
Susan
Okay. Okay.
Kathy
How about this one? My ex really messed me up.
Jared Freed
My ex really messed me up. I'm still afraid of commitment. And I'm finding a really good, good scapegoat that isn't going to get blamed on me.
Susan
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Kathy
What about this one? I don't post anyone I date. This one's meaningful to me. I don't post anyone I date.
Jared Freed
It depends on if they're a poster. You know, I don't post anyone I date. And they post every day. That's someone that doesn't want to commit to you.
Kathy
That's an. That's in Jared's next book of red.
Susan
I'm private with my relationships.
Jared Freed
I'm private with my relationships that I'm trying to backtrack to where that would come from. That means the woman's not comfortable with where you guys are. And he's trying to basically get himself out of it. And. Yeah, and. And he's trying to make this a morality play. When someone references how they act with social media, especially a lot of men do this, well, they're basically saying that social media is frivolous and you're making something out of something that's. You're making something more important than it has to be. But that's them not admitting to the world that you live in, that we all live in. That's kind of like it's, it's a way of, you know, making yourself a moral. Taking moral high ground, in my opinion.
Susan
I'm not talking to anyone else.
Jared Freed
I'm not talking to anyone else.
Kathy
I'm probably talking to somebody else.
Jared Freed
Wow. I'm not talking to anyone else. I've said that. And that just meant that was a way of saying to someone that I'm dating them, but I'm also not committed to them.
Susan
Okay, you're.
Jared Freed
So it's like two fold. I'm not talking to anyone else. But I'm also not making this a relationship.
Kathy
And so if you said let's the other one. Next one is let's not overthink it. Is that the same thing you're over?
Jared Freed
Let's not overthink it is. Is. Is. I'm giving you a little crumb to feel better about this relationship. But it's not the whole meal that you really want.
Kathy
You're breadcrumbing them.
Jared Freed
I don't know. I don't know what that means. I, I just think you're giving someone a little bit so that they'll shut the up. Is that, that's breadcrumb. Okay, get. Get with the j. I don't like the jar.
Susan
I need to work on myself first. I'm just naturally flirty. I'm not in the right head.
Jared Freed
Everyone Susan's texting with is some, like, you know, some Italian guy living in, you know, in the south side.
Kathy
I got one for you, Jared, because I get this all the time and they don't.
Jared Freed
They. I like being too loud. What do you get all the time?
Kathy
No, I like independent women.
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Jared Freed
Well, we'll see. We'll see. You know, like, I like independent women. And then, you know, I. Okay. I, I, I mean, I don't like. That's like a show. Not tell. Like, tell. There's a lot of people that, like, tell you who they are before having to be who they are. So, like, like when you say, I like a type of woman. Okay, cool. You know, like that. Those are just words, you know?
Susan
How about when he says, I didn't want to lead you on?
Jared Freed
That's him saying that I'm willing to be beneath a boyfriend, but not a boyfriend.
Susan
I don't deleted the apps.
Jared Freed
Then they deleted the apps. That's a good, that's a good one.
Kathy
How about this one? I'm old fashioned. One of my favorites.
Jared Freed
I'm old fashioned. I. That.
Kathy
Not the drink. Not the drink. Chair. No, I, I am an old fashioned.
Jared Freed
I'm old fashioned. Usually. Is someone trying to tell you who they are without having to be who they are.
Susan
I've never introduced a girl to my friends before and are.
Jared Freed
Well, they must not be a very mature person.
Susan
I don't care about looks. I care about personality.
Kathy
I don't care about looks. I care about personality. Come on.
Jared Freed
It's just a lie. They wouldn't be, they wouldn't be talking to you like, you know, like, they're, they're only talking to you because of your looks that matter to them. Again with the looks conversation. It always goes down a road of, like, good looking, bad looking, but good looking is. Everyone has their types. Everyone has their particularities, you know, like,
Susan
so can I just give you my honest opinion? For every one of them, that's a guy that's just not that into you. He'll sleep with you, he'll have some fun. Fun with you. But, girlfriend, he's not the one you're bringing home to mama.
Kathy
Or, Or Susan, wait. Maybe he's literally. It's either that or he's keeping the cards open to see if something else better comes along. He Might take. He might.
Jared Freed
But both of those perspectives are very mean to yourself. Like, no one, no guy thinks that way. Like, you know, they're just waiting for something else to come along or he's not that into you. What? You know, I. I think all these texts that you just gave, they're crazy responses to a woman generally who's asking for more, and they're getting back answers to get them to stop asking for more. So, yeah, fair enough. So if I was to group all these texts, these are responses to a woman asking for more. So I think a lot of these people, if you're asking for more and not getting it, you have to ask yourself, when do I get turned off? Yeah. You know, so.
Kathy
Okay, so, Jared, I got one last thing to say to you. Okay, I'm gonna say it one more time. You need to give up being a comedian because your advice is stellar. Other than this fabulous book coming out, you're still on tour. I'm on tour for those of you in my hometown. He's going to be in Austin, Texas. When? When?
Jared Freed
The 28th, 29th, the 29th, 30th and 31st of May. I'm gonna be in Austin, Cleveland, the Hamptons, Miami, Red Bank, New Jersey, Foxwood, Portland, Maine. And then I'm doing a book tour where you can buy the book and you can come to a. It's not a stand up show. It's gonna be a live dating talk show.
Susan
Oh, Kathy, Kathy, we gotta book that. That.
Jared Freed
New York, Boston, Philly.
Susan
When?
Jared Freed
I gotta get you in Philly. When? At the tla.
Kathy
When?
Jared Freed
My girlfriend's gonna be there. I'll introduce you. When?
Kathy
Hey, can I come?
Jared Freed
Like, it's gonna be June the first. When am I doing this? June 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th and 13th. New York, Boston, Philly, D, Chicago, Denver.
Susan
I'm there.
Jared Freed
And you can get a book and I'll sign your book and then you will do a dating talk show. You can send me the text you get from guys. I'll do Brotta Stone. I'll translate the text and you can. We're gonna take people's dating apps and I'm gonna give them makeovers.
Susan
Awesome.
Jared Freed
And I'll take audience questions and we'll do a whole thing. And then a big part of the book, again, a lot of what I talk about and why you think I'm being harsh is because we got to take ownership. I think a lot of people want to blame the dating world and the apps and everyone's disposable, but they never Take ownership of them. So I sent the book to a friend and this is something very interesting that happened. She goes, I have a boyfriend now. And I go, no way. She goes, your book, your book helped. And I go, how? No, come on. I. You know, to me, I wrote a book where I made jokes. Like, I didn't think. I didn't think this book would help anybody.
Susan
Look at that.
Jared Freed
She goes, it helped because the chapter, I was reading a chapter and I. And it made me ask him a question that I never would have asked. And I said, really? She goes, there's a chapter called what type of single are you? And it goes over all these types of single that I made up and. But based in truth. Like, there's sad single, there's very single, there's single, all these types of singles. And she was like, I decided I'm a mix of like this single and that single. And then I asked the guy I was dating, I was like, what type of single are you? And then he had to, like, put words behind she. He read all the singles. He goes, I'm. This one. This is. This one's me. And it was like, single and ready. And she was like, I never would have had that level of communication to hear that he was single and ready.
Susan
Fire, people.
Jared Freed
It was crazy. I. I swear to God. So we're gonna, we're gonna start every show with what type of single are you? And then you're gonna wear it as a name tag. I love this.
Susan
I love.
Kathy
Okay, Jared, where can people find you on socials as if they.
Jared Freed
Jared Free. Just Google me as douchey as I can say. Jared freed on Instagram TikTok, the wizard of ha. And you're amazing.
Susan
And I will see you next month.
Jared Freed
Actually, Kathy's on vacation. She's still working hard.
Susan
Just in a few weeks. And please make sure to rate, review and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcast and you can follow us on social media, Bachelor Happy hour and Bachelor
Kathy
Nation, and we will see you next time. But in the meantime, make sure you pre order Jared's book.
Jared Freed
We got the plugs, Kathy.
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Podcast Date: June 9, 2026
Special Guest: Jared Freid
Hosts: Kathy, Susan (Charity Lawson & Rachel Recchia not present in this excerpt)
This episode of “Bachelor Happy Hour” brings the comedy and blunt advice of Jared Freid—a comedian, host, and dating expert—to answer Bachelor Nation listeners’ questions about modern dating. With Kathy and Susan hosting, Jared provides honest, practical, and sometimes hilariously tough-love guidance to women sharing frustrations and doubts about dating, relationships, and finding “the one.” The episode is a lively mix of listener letters, advice, and a fun round of “Man Translator,” where Jared decodes classic guy texts.
[Listened letter from "Britt", Age 33 — 06:46–13:01]
[Letter from "Rachel", Age 39 — 13:01–26:32]
[Letter from "Amanda", Age 27 — 26:35–36:44]
[42:49–50:56]
Kathy and Susan put Jared on the spot to interpret typical ambiguous or evasive dating texts from men. Jared delivers deadpan, direct translations:
This episode is a must-listen for anyone burnt out, confused, or demoralized by modern dating. Jared Freid delivers stitch-in-the-side laughs and real guidance, pushing listeners to confront their beliefs about love and take agency in their dating stories. Whether it’s raising your standards, keeping your heart open, shifting your mindset, or decoding “guy speak,” the hosts and Jared keep it honest, empowering, and fun.
Takeaways:
Find Jared Freid:
On tour, on social (@jaredfreid), and with his book "Walking Red Flag" and live dating shows nationwide.
For Bachelor Nation fans seeking both laughs and tough truths: this episode delivers golden advice—and a reminder that you’re never as alone as you think.