Jill’s Back and Better Than Ever! | Golden Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour: Golden Hour

Episode Title: Jill’s Back and Better Than Ever!
Release Date: September 10, 2025
Hosts: Joe Amabile, Serena Pitt (implied), along with "Golden Hour" co-hosts Susan and Kathy
Guest: Jill Chin (Bachelor in Paradise fan favorite)

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, fan favorite and Bachelor in Paradise alumna Jill Chin returns for an in-depth chat with Susan and Kathy during the "Golden Hour" segment. Jill reflects on her Paradise journey, navigating friendships and heartbreak, her stance on potentially returning as the Bachelorette, updates on her dating life, and her thoughts on behind-the-scenes drama. The discussion covers the nuances of finding love in the franchise, self-love, body image, and lasting relationship advice, with plenty of laughs and authentic moments throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Jill Reflects on Leaving Paradise

[04:01–06:03]

• Jill admits she found re-watching her Paradise exit more "pathetic" than "girl boss" but stands by her authenticity, saying:

  “When I watched it back, I was like, wow, it's sadder than I thought it was gonna be. Like, I thought it was like a girl boss moment... and it was, like, kind of pathetic.” – Jill (04:20)

• She discusses her discomfort with being friend-zoned and her decision to leave:

  “I hate being friend zoned here. I've just... I'm everyone's friend. This isn't good for me. It's not healthy.” – Jill (04:47)

Public Reaction and Bachelor Nation Support

[05:25–06:10]

• The outpouring of support was refreshing for Jill:

  “Usually it's all, like, criticism and you're so blah, blah, blah. But no, this time I feel like it was the most kind of accurate to how I felt.” – Jill (05:31)

• Many fans even suggested she become the next Bachelorette, a notion she firmly brushes off:

  “Oh, my God. I tell them to be quiet.” – Jill (06:14)

On Being the Bachelorette, Dating, and Keeping Life Private

[06:21–08:13]

• Jill expresses no desire to be the Bachelorette:

  “I don't think I would, no... I've been at Bachelor Nation for 4ish years now, and I haven't found a single guy that I could see myself with.” – Jill (06:48)

• She candidly describes her return to the dating world—her struggle with dating apps and general disillusionment:

  “I was told there was going to be hot people, there was going to be cool people. As far as I can tell, I'm the best one on there.” – Jill (07:36)

• Jill hints at having someone special but keeps details private:

  “Well, maybe I am, but I'm just not going to tell you.” – Jill (08:26)

Paradise Drama: Jeremy, Brian, and Susie

[08:45–12:11]

• Jill provides insider opinions on current Paradise conflicts, specifically criticizing Jeremy:

  “I don't really care for Jeremy. I think he's one of those people that is only nice to women that they find attractive…” – Jill (09:51; 10:10)

• Regarding drama around Susie, Jill empathizes with her friend:

  “She's just being talked about rather than being able to… say things herself.” – Jill (10:36)

• Jill and the hosts laugh about Jeremy's over-the-top proposal talk:

  “Let me just back up. You think a guy is delusional for calling a woman that he's talked to for, let's call it 10 minutes and, and saying, I'd get down on a knee and propose her?” – Kathy (11:11)

Speculation About Couples’ Long-Term Prospects

[12:11–12:35]

• Jill is skeptical about most Paradise relationships lasting, but singles out a few couples:

  “Spencer and Jess. They've always been good, you know, they're so cute. They're so sweet.” – Jill (12:17)

More Paradise Messiness: Sean, Alicia, and Jonathan

[18:50–21:53]

• Jill calls the Sean-Alicia situation a “huge mess... and it's only going to get messier, from what I understand.” – Jill (18:56)
• She shares insights into her dynamic with Jonathan, revealing the confusion over his intentions:

  “He kissed me on the date and he says, well, you know, we, we kiss. We kiss friends. He's. Yeah, I kiss my friends. What?” – Jill (21:44)

Learning from the "Goldens" and Lessons from Bachelor Nation

[22:16–23:30]

• Jill appreciates the wisdom of the “Golden” cast, wishing she'd tapped their advice:

  “Seeing the way that you were moving... is like so good for us to be able to look up to.” – Jill (22:29)

Personal Growth and Looking Forward

[23:30–25:18]

• Turning 30, Jill is excited about dreams coming true—though she keeps details secret:

  “It's actually my dream come true, so. It's so exciting and I can't wait. And no, my dating life is good.” – Jill (25:18)

Relationship Wisdom: Butterflies vs. Comfort

[26:08–27:20]

• Jill’s take on long-term relationships:

  “Being best friends and being able to... be comforted by that person is 100% more important.” – Jill (26:25)

• The hosts agree, noting that “relationships ebb and flow” and that commitment matters most.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the dating app struggle:

  “As far as I can tell, I'm the best one on there.” – Jill (07:36)

• On Paradise drama boiling over:

  “Now that the money is involved… it's getting pretty cutthroat.” – Jill (08:58)

• On Jeremy and honesty:

  “I think someone needed to tell Bailey, and he had a good opportunity to do it, so why not do it? And also, he had a chip on his shoulder from Jeremy. So if I wanted to get revenge, yeah, I would get revenge.” – Jill (17:43)

• On choosing comfort over butterflies in love:

  “Of course you want both all the time, but God, you know, God doesn't give us both hands.” – Jill (26:42)

• On Bachelor Nation wisdom:

  “I've never seen somebody's body and thought about it for more than a second... The people who judge are. There's something deeply wrong with them.” – Jill, on self-acceptance (34:48)

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Listener Q&A Segment: Cultivating Self-Love

[32:17–38:48]

• Jill counsels a mom struggling with post-baby body image, stressing self-kindness and perspective:

  “You can't have your body prevent you from doing, from doing anything in your life... I think, you know, like, be kind to yourself. You created life and it's a beautiful thing.” – Jill (34:48)

• Kathy and Susan add their own stories, emphasizing patience, movement, and giving oneself grace.

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Jill Turns the Table: Hosts Personal Qs

[39:03–44:28]

• Jill inquires about Susan's long-distance relationship and whether she regrets not going on Paradise—finding Susan content in her choice.
• She then asks Kathy for advice to "younger" Bachelor hopefuls:

  “This is just like a jumpstart of a relationship. But as you said, Jill, when you leave here and you jump back into the real world, you're gonna have to manage things like money...” – Kathy (40:50)

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The Influence of Money on Paradise

[42:37–44:49]

• Jill admits she never saw the $500,000 as hers (“No man is worth that money. I'm sorry.” – 42:41), while Kathy insists love and money are separate:

  “You can still walk away from paradise with no money and have a great love.” – Kathy (43:24)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Jill’s Paradise Exit Reflections: [04:01–06:03]
• On Not Being the Bachelorette & Dating App Realities: [06:21–08:13]
• Drama with Jeremy & Brian: [08:45–12:11]
• Who Stands a Chance as a Couple: [12:11–12:35]
• Self-love and Body Image Advice Q&A: [32:17–38:48]
• Hosts Respond to Jill’s Questions: [39:03–44:28]
• Discussion on Relationships vs. Money: [42:37–44:49]

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Episode Tone & Style

Lighthearted, authentic, and supportive, the conversation is marked by honest self-reflection, playful teasing, and warmth among friends. Jill’s openness and dry humor shine throughout, matching the hosts’ approachable and big-sister energy. The overall tone empowers self-acceptance, values real-life relationship building, and encourages living authentically—regardless of reality TV narratives.

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Summary by Bachelor Happy Hour Podcast Summarizer
For Bachelor Nation fans and newcomers alike, this episode is a must-listen for its candor, relatability, and behind-the-scenes insight—delivered in the sparkling, genuine style Bachelor Happy Hour is known for.

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Okay, Today we have a very special guest joining us, One of our first returning guests and Bachelor in Paradise fan favorite Jill Chin is here. Hey, Jill. Hi, Jill, you look so different out on the beach.

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I know. Like, worse or better.

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No, you look amazing. And I thought, Let me just get this out. You were nothing but class. I'm sorry that you cried like you did, but I admired you, and you were being real and honest with yourself.

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Thank you.

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Congratulations.

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When I watched it back, I was like, wow, it's sadder than I thought it was gonna be. Like, I thought it was like a girl boss moment. Like, okay, yeah, like, I'm gonna leave on my court. And it was, like, kind of pathetic. I was like, oh, my God, Jill.

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Do you guys all tear it up?

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Jill, do you remember me coming up to you going, wait a minute, wait a minute. You're leaving? Because I overheard you, and I was like, what? You said. I just. Tell us what. Tell us what you said. Do you remember that?

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No, it's all a blur. What did I say? Tell me.

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You were just like, I hate being friend zoned here. I've just. I'm everyone's friend. This isn't good for me. It's not healthy. And I was like, but stay.

[B]

And you went there to find love, right? Not somebody's friendship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?

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And I feel like I can see I have, like, I can see what's going to happen. So you know what, what's going to happen? Is Sean going to give me his rose? Probably not. Like, why am I going to. Why do I even want Sean's rose? Do I even like Sean?

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Yeah. How do you feel about that now?

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Reasons.

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Yeah, I feel. Oh, I feel absolutely fantastic. I feel like I made the right choice.

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How does it feel feeling all the love from Bachelor Nation and all of us after leaving it?

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Honestly, it's been such a crazy experience getting all of the messages and how many people resonate with me. And it's honestly because I've never really had that from Bachelor Nation. Usually it's all, like, criticism and you're so blah, blah, blah. But no, this time I feel like it was the most kind of accurate to how I felt. And, you know, people were seeing kind of the real emotions, and I'm always going to keep it real with you guys. So. Yeah, no, it's been, it's been really heartwarming. And. Yeah.

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How do you people out there that feel the same way you did in situations, you know, they, they resonate with that.

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And how do you feel about all the comments? People said you should be the next Bachelorette.

[A]

Oh, my God. I tell them to be quiet.

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Oh, is that, is that, is that something you would not do then?

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I don't think I would know.

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Wait, so you say no? Wait, before you say no, Jill. Wait, before she says no, I got an idea. We did paradise together, right? Golden. And. Yeah. How about you be the Bachelorette and I'll be the golden Bachelorette? We'll do one show with two Bachelorettes.

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I like where this is going. We should definitely pitch this. We should pitch this. No.

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Do share. Why would you consider not doing it? What would your.

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I mean, I've been at bachelor nation for 4ish years now, and I haven't found a single guy that I could see myself with.

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That would be my fear.

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It just takes one in jail.

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I know, but still, like, I, I, I feel like the next guy that you everybody knows about will be my husband. Like, I'm not going to. I just can't do it anymore. Like, it's, I mean, obviously, would it be a fabulous opportunity? Yes. But, like, I'm also like, I got things to do. Like, I gotta, like, I'm 30. Like, we gotta get this thing rolling, you know?

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I don't know. Wait a minute. Wait. So you're gonna keep your private life private? I hear you. So are you dating?

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I am dating. Yes, of course. I'm dating.

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Oh, we want to hear your pride. Tell us all about your private life that you don't want to share.

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Well, I mean, like, I'm dating. Okay, so here's the stupid thing. So I've. I haven't done the dating apps since college, literally. So I really never done the dating app. So I downloaded a hinge. Oh, my God. I was told there was going to be hot people, there was going to be cool people. As far as I can tell, I'm the best one on there. Like, I'm telling you, it's been such a struggle. Like, I hate it so much.

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It's like a job, isn't it?

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It's like a full time job. I'm like, all right, I got three dates this week. I got this guy next week, this guy I got to check in with, and I'm like, I just can't. So. Yeah, but I. I am dating, obviously.

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Well, how did you meet the date? Like, what? Give us the.

[A]

Oh, well, there's like, there's been a couple. There's been a couple, you know, ponies in the stable, if you will.

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But I take it you're not serious about anyone yet.

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Well, maybe I am, but I'm just not going to tell you.

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Okay. All right. I want to get back to you.

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I want to have more than one date with the same person.

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Of course.

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Of course. Yeah.

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She's not a. She's not a serial dater. All right, I want to get back since you're not going to share. I want to get back to some paradise because I want.

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Okay.

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I want to get the tea on this.

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Yes.

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What is your thoughts on all the drama in paradise since, you know, since you left and, you know, all that, Jeremy's phone call, everything that. To Susie, just all of the drama. What do you think about it?

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Well, I mean, it's like you could see these things kind of bubbling beneath the surface and now that the money is involved, you know, getting pretty cutthroat. I don't know if Brian. I'm not sure if Brian would have told Bailey. I think someone had to. My God.

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Wait, do you mean Jeremy? Do you mean you're not sure if Jeremy would have told Bailey?

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I can't tell Brian.

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I don't know if Brian. I don't know if Brian would have. If the competition element wasn't involved. I don't know that. Maybe he would have, maybe not. It was a great opportunity for him to do that. I would say it was a good play, but again, like, you're taking people who aren't, you know, who didn't sign up for a competition style show to play in this competition. So, I mean, the whole Jeremy thing, I. Okay, I hate to say this, but.

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There'S no one listening but us. Jill, go ahead.

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Right. No, yeah, it's an echo chamber. But like, I. And I've told him to this to his face. I don't really care for Jeremy.

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I've said it on can I. I.

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Can'T tell you, but there are some people that I. I will not, you know, I can't out other people, but I can tell you you are not alone in that comment.

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I know. And it's like, whatever. Like, you know, I met him in person and he wasn really nice to me. He's. I think he's one of those people that is only nice to women that they find attractive or they, you know.

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Or they care to know about.

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Yeah, they care, right? Or, like, thinks it's worthy of their time. So that's fine. But I have.

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Well, you're gorgeous, so that.

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Thank you. Appreciate it.

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So you're friends with Susie. Have you guys talked about all the drama that. That took place about her?

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Of course we have. Yes, of course we have. Which is so funny. Like, she's like, I was on the show for like 24 hours and this narrative just continues throughout, which is interesting. And I also, I mean, I feel terrible because it's like, you know, she's being mentioned a lot, but she can't speak her own truth. You know, it's like she's. She's just being talked about rather than being able to, like, you know, say things herself. I think. Well, I don't know. I think Jeremy was a bit delusional because he's like, oh, you know, like, I'll just. I'll just propose. Wait, wait a minute. Let me.

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Let me just back up. You think a guy is delusional for calling a woman that he's talked to for, let's call it 10 minutes and, and saying, I'd get down on a knee and propose her? You think that's a. Sounds like a delusional guy? I don't know, Jill.

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Oh, yes, man.

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I know it's. Right. It's. Which is like, I don't know what he's thinking, but also, it's like, she turned you down, brother. You were gonna marry her. Yeah, I just. It didn't make any sense to me. It's never made any sense to me. Bailey's such a catch. Like, out of Jeremy's league. So it's like, let's go with that. Like, she is so deserving, but, you know, like, oh, God, I. I hope that these. Obviously, I wish the best for everybody, and I hope everything works out.

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Yeah.

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Do I, like, you know, in my practical mind, do I think that all these relationships are gonna work out? Probably not, you know, but lessons are learned along the way, and those are valuable, too.

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Well, who do you. Wait, who do you which? Which ones do you think have the best chance of working out?

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Spencer and Jess. They've always been good, you know, they're so cute. They're so sweet. Is this the best chance.

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Wait, should I break the news now that Keith and I are engaged?

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That's what I was gonna say. I was like, maybe you and Keith. Maybe you and Keith. Or like Jonathan and Leia.

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I need your honest opinion with the man code. And everybody was mad at Brian for telling. Did you respect him for doing that?

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Yes, of course I did.

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And do you feel like he did it for the wrong reasons, like you said earlier, or he really did care about her?

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I can't tell. Brian's hard to read. Brian's another one where I'm like, also this shout out to Brian's family. Brian's family loves me, so I can't really say anything about him.

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I love him.

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I mean, I'm not sure that there's a lot going on up there in sense of, like, I'm trying to manipulate.

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Wait, wait. With Brian?

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Yeah.

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Oh, my God. Okay.

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I think she's saying he wasn't doing it just to manipulate.

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No, what she said, there's not a lot upstairs there.

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Well, okay, I'm. You know what I'm saying. But in terms of, like, being extremely manipulative, I don't really think that was his M.O. i think someone needed to tell Bailey, and he had a good opportunity to do it, so why not do it? And also, he had a chip on his shoulder from Jeremy. So it's like, if I wanted to get revenge, yeah, I would get revenge.

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And Jeremy, you know, saying. I mean, it's. It's almost comical when Jeremy says, you know, I was going to tell her. I was, but, you know, I had to get a good night's sleep. And I'm sitting there going, yeah, I was going to tell her, but, you know, I had to wash my socks. I was going to tell her, but I had to write my grocery list. I was going to tell her, but I was dusting my end table. Like, come on. But let's.

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Eight days later. Eight days later. Like, you're really going to wait that long? He's like, I didn't think it was relevant, but you kept bringing it up. I didn't know that it was still pervasive. I knew that there was, like, that he had maybe regretted his decision, but I didn't know that up until the night that I left that he was actively talking about this. I had no idea it was like that.

[B]

What about the Sean and Alicia and have you talked to Sean since the show?

[A]

Yeah, I've talked to Shawnee. I've Talked to Sean. I mean, okay, that whole thing is a mess. It's a huge mess. Whoa and whoa. Huge mess. And it's only. It's only going to get messier, from what I understand.

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Can I just say it looked like on the previews.

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I have two things to say. I love the fact that I am not involved in that.

[B]

I'm proud of you, Kathy.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Yeah, I agree with you, Jill. It's messy, unkind. There's so many different, you know, and yet both of those people were. Were. Everyone was so kind to me on Paradise. I mean, they were lovely people to me and good conversations. So I'm sort of mentally sort of caught in the middle with that whole thing.

[A]

I. I would agree. I don't have a lot of experience with Alicia. What I can say is, like, this is so tough because, like, you know, this is what I've had to learn throughout my, like, my seasons or my time in Bachelor Nation is like, you get so close to people within such a short amount of time, but you've only really known them for, like, three weeks.

[C]

Yes, that's right.

[B]

But wait, do you really know them?

[C]

That's right. Well, you don't really. It's the reality of it. But. All right, so we've covered what you think about others. Now I'm going to hit you up one. Tell us about Jonathan. What really happened between you and, you know, what have you guys talked about with regards to all this? The drama, et cetera? What. What's going on? What happened? Spill the beans.

[A]

Well, okay. I mean, obviously, we had a misunderstanding. Misunderstanding? I misinterpreted these things that he was saying to me with the information.

[C]

Oh, you mean the one when he said I couldn't maybe date you? You mean that one, Jill, when he said maybe I could date you?

[A]

Yeah. He was like, oh, you're making my decision hard. You make my decision hard, or something. And I was like, oh, maybe there's a chance. After I just said, you know, like, are you open? Blah, blah. So, of course I misinterpret rid of that, right? I mean, totally.

[C]

Women never.

[B]

I mean, this is with everybody.

[A]

Yeah, I know. And, like. And that was honestly, like, I feel so bad for Leia, but, like, that was. It was validating for me to kind of see the pattern unfold. Like, okay, he's maybe really not even trying, I don't think. Yeah, it's not me. I think that he hasn't really given anyone a fair shot. And it's like, I'm giving Sean a Crack. Like, come on, like I'm giving Sean a crack.

[B]

This is me trying.

[A]

This is me trying. It's like you can be surprised by people. Do I think that, like, Jonathan definitely shut things off, like a little too quickly, I think, because I think like, we had a good, like he said, we had a good friendship. Brother, I've known you for a day. Like, we, we don't really know each other. I don't know.

[B]

This isn't a friendship friendship.

[A]

And then like, you know, and then he kissed me on the date and he says, well, you know, we, we kiss. We kiss friends. He's. Yeah, I kiss my friends. What?

[C]

Well, Jonathan, if you're listening, I never got one from you, so that, that argument does not hold water.

[B]

And Jonathan, if you're listening, you and I are going to sit down, we're going to have a little talk. Jonathan, Some therapy.

[C]

Jonathan, you better, you better, you know, you better be careful because Susan does wield a baseball bat. Okay, I have another question. Wait, I have to ask her one question before because I don't want to run out of time to ask this.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Did you learn anything?

[B]

She took my question.

[C]

Oh, I'm sorry. Since I was there and I'm a Golden, I thought, you know, have you learned anything from the Goldens that you've held onto while you're on Paradise?

[A]

Oh, my God, yes. I. First of all, I loved having the Golden's there. I thought it was like, it was so fun. You guys brought the energy and like, seeing the way that you were moving, the way that you guys move throughout the journey in life is like so good for us to be able to look up to. And I honestly should have used you guys as more of a resource because I was like spinning in my head and like, not using you guys. So I wish I used, you know, you guys as a resource more. But in having like, you know, some deep chats, it's like, I got to see what, you know, some of you guys are divorced or have lost loved ones, and so it's like you get to see that perspective from, you know, like, if they could go back or, you know, things that they've learned from the later end of their relationships. I think we only think about, like the budding early romance in Paradise. But getting to kind of think about what happens at the end and how meaningful that is was really important. So I really loved it. I really. It was so good.

[B]

Is there anything you wish you would have done differently or are you happy with everything? Good then you were also.

[A]

I'M so happy. Yes. I was exactly myself. I wouldn't change anything. I left when it was my time, my sparkle was going and.

[C]

Yeah, well, let me say, first of all, it's not too late. Call me anytime. Talk about. Always have an ear for that. But I also want to know. You were saying, I think I read or something, that you wanted to see Alex. I can't even say his last name. Or. Brian Whitzman. Are you in contact with either of those guys?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[B]

Is there anybody wasn't there that you wish was there?

[A]

Yeah, I wish either of them were there, but I. Yeah, but you know.

[C]

There is a little thing, Jill. You could reach out to them. You don't have to meet them on Paradise.

[A]

No, I know I. That we. We have both of those people I have been in contact with in the past. And I'm pretty sure that they know that the door is open. Okay, but so I. It's not important.

[C]

What is wrong with these guys, Susan? What is wrong with these guys? You are beautiful.

[B]

You know, that's old saying. The grass always looks greener on the other side, and then all of a sudden it turns brown and then there's no.

[C]

Men are idiots. Not all men, but can we just agree this morning that many men are just idiots. The fact. The fact that you are single blows my mind.

[B]

I know.

[A]

It's okay. There are like. It is okay.

[B]

It is.

[A]

I'm in such a happy place in my life. Like, I turned 30. I've got some very exciting things coming up, and I'm just. I'm happy and I am dating and it's fine.

[C]

And you're.

[B]

And can I just say the exciting things coming.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you traveling or.

[A]

So the funny thing is I can't. And I love when people. I actually hate when people do this. When they're like, but I can't tell you. I know. I hate that. And I'm like, but no, I actually can't tell you guys, but it's very exciting and it's actually my dream come true, so. It's so exciting and I can't wait. And no, my dating life is good. It's actually really good. And I'm super happy.

[B]

When will we find out this exciting news? What do we know?

[C]

I'll call her later and I'll get it out. I'll let you know.

[A]

I actually don't know. I actually don't know. I'm like. I'm bound to secrecy, which is like the best kind of secret.

[B]

That is. That's so awesome. I'm a little envious. I wanna know what it is.

[C]

All right, we gotta move on. We're gonna go into our topic of the day. Okay. We're just gonna ask a question where you're gonna give your thoughts on it. Okay. Jill?

[A]

Yep.

[C]

All right. What matters more in a long term partnership? Being best friends or being head over heels? Lovers. Would you rather have constant butterflies or constant comfort in a relationship? What says you? What do you think, Jill?

[A]

I think that, oh, my God, that's so tough because you get the butterflies at the beginning and you get the head over heels at the beginning. But I think long lasting, being best friends and being able to, you know, be comforted by that person is 100 more important.

[B]

I agree, but I want both all the time.

[A]

Of course you want both all the time, but God, you know, God doesn't give us both hands.

[B]

I know, but having your best friend, it's.

[C]

Yeah, I think we can all safely. I mean, I think a long term partnership, it evolves over time. And the butterflies, you know, the caterpillars turn into butterflies, the butterflies fly away. Whatever it is. I think over time relationships change. So that's why I think I always want to have that best friend.

[B]

I agree, but I like getting excited when he walks into the room even a year later, like, oh, there's my man. You know, like that. That's a good feeling.

[A]

It is a good feeling. I think that there's a good mix. But like, yeah, it ebbs and flows. Relationships ebb and flow. And you have to, you know, sometimes you'll have that spark, sometimes you don't. But as long as you're committed to one another and to making it work in the relationship as a whole, you're going to be fine.

[B]

Absolutely.

[D]

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I'm Drew Phillips and we run a.

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No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned like over 25 years.

[B]

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Oh, yeah.

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We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators and culture shifters sharing their real stories of failure and success. Josie and Doug Muketo, you were destined to be a star. We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of Cheeseman, a lot of laughs, and those amazing vivas you've come to expect. And of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity struggles and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewashed because you have to do the code switching.

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I won't say whitewashed because at the.

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Yeah.

[D]

But the whole pretending and co, you.

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Know, it takes a toll on you.

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Listen to the new season of grasses. Come again as part of Michael Tura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

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The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here and we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement, terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh, well, this season we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not gonna wanna miss it.

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Get in here.

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Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people. The diva of the people. I'm just like texturex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself.

[D]

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Friendship, heartbreaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets.

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Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[B]

We have these questions written in by our fans and we give them a bit of advice and to today we would like your input. Is that okay?

[A]

Yes, of course. I love giving advice.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

This one is from Carly, and she's 36 and from Miami, Florida. From woman to woman, I've been really struggling with my body. Every time I look back at photos with my family and friends, I find myself critiquing how I look instead of enjoying the moment. I think that's just a female thing. This has been going on since I gave birth two years ago, and lately I feel like there's no excuse to still look this way. Most of the people I know with toddlers have already lost their baby weight, and it makes me anxious about the possibility of getting pregnant again. Though my husband and I want to give our daughters a sibling, I worry about how I'll look and feel after the second time. I know my body created life, blah, blah, blah. And I understand all the self love narratives, but that doesn't stop me from feeling frustrated and unhappy with myself. I'd love some words of wisdom on cultivating self love. Does this struggle with our bodies as women ever truly go away as we get older? Or is it something we just learned to live with?

[C]

Well, Jill, since you've had four or five children, how did you feel after your first?

[A]

That's what I was like. I feel like I can't really comment on this. My best friend just had a baby though. This is her second baby and she's kind of dealing with the same thing. And I would never blame anybody for taking, you know, measures to make themselves feel good and look good. I'm not saying like, you know, anything extreme, but if it's something little you can do, definitely do it. But I think that for me, I, I've heard this before, that it's like, like I've never seen somebody's body and thought about it for more than a second. I like if someone's on the beach, like, you know, I'm always self conscious on the beach. I've never gone to the beach and seen a body that has stuck in my memory. You know, it's just not at the forefront of my mind. And the people who judge are. There's something deeply wrong with them. I think that, you know, you can't have your body prevent you from doing, from doing anything in your life. Especially, you know, if you want to have more kids or, you know, whatever. I don't think that I fully understand like, like the self consciousness and feeling like, you know, that, that worry. I totally understand it. But there are things in life that you really can't control and there's things that you can control and you have to kind of like pick and choose your battles. There's a lot, there's people out there with, you know, like physical disabilities that can't change their, their situation. And so there has to be that level of acceptance. But I think, you know, like, be kind to yourself. You did, you created life and it's like a beautiful thing and you should, you should just enjoy it.

[B]

I agree. And there's always surgery after the second one if you need it and that's gonna make you feel better. But it's about the self love part that for me came with maturity way later in life and loving when I came off the Golden Bachelor. That was the first thing I said. I'm good with who I am. I'm comfortable in my own skin. Yes, I do the same thing, Carly. Look at pictures and go, damn, I look good then. If I only knew what I know now. And look. Look like that. Be dangerous. So, like, it changes. It's normal. It's life.

[A]

And I feel like. I feel like it's always the grass. Like you said, the grass is always greener. I look at pictures of me from, like, two years ago, and I'm like, oh, my God, if I was only looking like that. But that time I was looking at pictures years ago. You know, you have to, like, enjoy where you're at.

[C]

Yeah. But I will say, having children, I gain. I have three. And I gained a lot of weight with each child, Carly. And I will say it took me almost a year to get off the weight with each child. And each.

[B]

Which is normal.

[C]

Well, I had a lot of friends who, you know, a month later were back in their skinny jeans. And, you know, that wasn't me. I had a rough time for. I get your problem here, Carly. I was exactly there. I had a really hard time getting the weight off. And what I would say to you is everything that Jill and Susan are saying, which is, you know, give yourself some grace and some time. But the other thing that might help you is just get on, walk, do something for yourself. 10 minutes of exercise that'll make you feel like you're moving towards your goal of getting back in shape, feeling better about yourself. Because nobody can tell you to feel good about yourself. If you don't, you're just not going to hear it. Right. And I think as we get older, things shift. Well, things shift. But you, like, I frankly look better now than I did when I was younger, just because I work hard at it. So I don't think necessarily where she says, do we struggle with our bodies? Does it ever truly go away? I think that's up to the individual woman. A lot of women, I think, use getting older as an excuse. That's their choice to do it. But menopause is crucial. Critical, too. You know, for some people, it didn't bother me at all. That's what I'm saying. It's just everyone has their own journey. But I think, Carly, the biggest thing is be kind to yourself. As Jill said, you've brought this child into the world, and you don't wanna look back 10 years from now and say, you know, so What? I was £10 or £15 more I wished I'd had another child, so.

[B]

And also know, Carly, that it is so normal. We all look good 10 years ago in our pictures. Two years ago, it was a good picture.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[B]

But look where you are now. You have children, you gave birth, and you're still hot. You know, you're hot in your own way. You gotta feel good about yourself.

[A]

I think what helps me. This is, like, the last thing I'll say about. Because I don't have kids. But I think for me, like, whenever I'm feeling that way, I think if everything is temporary, like, I'm like, okay, this is just the way that I look now, and that's okay. And it's gonna change. And so everything is temporary.

[C]

I love that. That is very good advice.

[B]

Be good to yourself and. And love yourself because.

[C]

And let us know if you get pregnant, what you have, because kids are great. You know, go from two to three. Maybe go and have four. You know, just go with. You know, they're fun. Babies are fun.

[B]

Any questions you have for us before we have to.

[A]

Oh, my God. That I have for you guys.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So, Susan, are you still with that French man?

[B]

Yes. Well, he's there and I'm here. That's a struggle. But yes. Yes.

[A]

Okay. And. Yeah, Brie. So how are you dealing with, like, the distance?

[B]

It sucks.

[A]

Sucks. Yeah.

[B]

Especially because he was due to come tonight night and he canceled. Yes. He couldn't. The gentleman, his friend that was going to watch his dog. Well, that guy was walking his own dog, and he got in a fight with a stray and he got mange, and it's really contagious. It was, like a big thing, and I only found out a couple days ago, and I was like, oh, it's like deflating your balloon, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't know when the next time that I'll see him. So. Yeah, that part is nice. Not fun.

[A]

That part's not fun. Okay, but so do you think, like. Do you regret not, like, you know, being in a relationship and not going on paradise?

[B]

No, he's a great man.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I love to hear that.

[B]

And he makes me feel good. You know, I. I love being around them. Kathy knows.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's bad.

[C]

I'm sick of hearing about it. Susan, it's my turn.

[A]

Literally, like, everybody who has, like, a happy relationship, I'm like, congratulations, Many.

[C]

I'm so happy for you.

[A]

Yes. Okay, now my question for Kathy. Okay, so what did. What was your perspective on paradise and what Would you tell the younger people there?

[C]

About what?

[B]

Good question.

[A]

About. About the way that we were acting.

[B]

What you saw, you know.

[C]

Well, do you mean the drama or just getting to know guys? I mean, getting to know.

[A]

I think, okay, maybe, like, on how to, like, cultivate properly. Do you think paradise is a place you can properly cultivate a relationship?

[C]

Absolutely. I think is what I said to the young ones. I call them the youngins. I said to all of them, use this time. You know, this is a rarity where you have no responsibilities. You don't have to cook, clean, you're not at your job. You have all this time to get to know someone. And this is just like a jumpstart of a relationship. But as you said, Jill, when you leave here and you jump back into the real world, you're gonna have to manage things like money. You're gonna have to find out where you're gonna live. You're gonna find out if you really are compatible when the pressures of the outside world face you. So my advice to all them was give yourself some grace and realize that things will change a little bit when you go home. Doesn't mean it's good or bad. It's just there's gonna be an adjustment period when you go home from paradise.

[B]

And I think Jess is doing a good job of that, because when she says, I don't know that I'm gonna move right in with you immediately. And that made me nervous because it was like a Cliffhan. And then they talked about it, and he's such a sweetheart, and he goes, we'll do it on your time. You know, I'll be patient. But his friends are all getting married, having kids, and he wants to stay up with that so the kids can be raised together. And I get it.

[C]

And, I mean, there's.

[B]

Give her some space sometimes.

[C]

And I think there's several relationships there that. Not in necessarily our paradise, but overall, over the seasons of paradise, that people have met and married and have great relationships. So it's like anything else in life. You know, you have to kiss a lot of frogs. But it's a great opportunity to have these budding relationships and see where it goes. So, yeah, I thought it was. I think it's a great opportunity.

[B]

I'm sorry, Jill. Have you ever been on one where they threw money in it?

[A]

No, no, no. I've never been on one that they throw money on it. And. And people are like, do you regret not staying for the money? I'm like, that $500,000 was never gonna be Mine. Like, there's no way. Who is gonna be with Sean. Like, no, but wait. No man is worth that money. I'm sorry.

[C]

No, no, no. You're. You're mixing it up. And I've said this repeatedly, just because you. You have your relationships on one end, you have your money on the other, Right? So during these challenges, depending on who wins and it doesn't. Keith and I have a great relationship. We couldn't. Half the time, we couldn't get the answers right. So the money and the relationship are different in my book. You can still walk away from paradise with no money and have a great love. I think you could conceivably walk away with paradise with a lot of money and no relationship, just the couple you had there coupled up. So I don't necessarily think money and love go together in. In that.

[B]

I think it was a big twist when they threw that in. And now towards the end and they're giving, you know, making you think twice, it's going to be love or money. So somebody. All I could think of is somebody that I think is so in love is going to diss the other person and take the money.

[C]

I would.

[B]

That would be bad.

[C]

Keith and I. Keith and I had said. We've said. It's been aired on the show a couple times. We had said we would never take money from kids. I mean, our.

[B]

Well, you're in a different situation.

[C]

Well, no. Well, no, because I've talked to a lot of my friends who are my age. They're like, are you crazy, Kathy? And I said, no, I'm not. Here's the thing. At my age, connections and relationships with people are far more important to me than adding some more money to my bank account.

[B]

Not for you, but they're 20, 30.

[C]

You know, that's what I said for young people. They want love. They're starting their lives. That's why Keith and I could never take the money. These young kids could use the money to pay off college debt, buy their first home, all those things that, to me, would be such a good use of money. That's awesome. I hope that answers your question.

[A]

Yeah, no, it does.

[B]

Jill, we love having you, and you'll be back with us again. Trust and believe me, because we love having you. And unfortunately, that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour.

[C]

Oh, thanks so much for joining us. And be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming out every week that you really don't want to miss.

[B]

Make sure you submit your questions. You Know what to do? Go to bachelornation.com goldenhour or you can hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour. And Jill, as soon as you're allowed to tell us, we want to know.

[A]

Okay? You will be hearing from me.

[B]

I'm gonna go to sleep tonight thinking, what could it be? What could it be?

[C]

We loved having you, Jill. But in the meantime, in the meantime, listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's golden hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Till next time, have a great week.

[D]

All right, West West Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand more than you give him credit for. Between Jerry out here mandering all over the place. Hop out, boys. Snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jamel Hill cuz she gonna keep it a century.

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The American public is used to being entertained.

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We're a consumption society.

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So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you.

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Listen to the Hood Politics with Prop podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[C]

Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.

[A]

And I'm Drew Phillips, and we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated adhd.

[C]

Oh, my God, perfect.

[A]

And want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble.

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Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

Then Emergency Intercom's the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartradio app, search emergency Intercom and listen. Now, it's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone and there is help out there.

[C]

The Good Stuff Podcast, Season two takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a nonprofit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join hosts Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front line of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe saved my life twice.

[A]

Welcome to season two of the Good Stuff.

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Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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That has DNA right now in a.

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Backlog will be identified in our lifetime.

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[C]

He never thought he was going to get caught.

[A]

And I just looked at my computer screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[B]

This technology is already solving so many cases.

[A]

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[C]

Wherever you get your podcasts.

[A]

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