Kathy, Susan, and Your Dating Woes | Golden Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour – “Kathy, Susan, and Your Dating Woes | Golden Hour”

Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour
Date: November 26, 2025
Hosts: Kathy and Susan

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Episode Overview

This "Golden Hour" edition of Bachelor Happy Hour features Kathy and Susan diving into a fun, spirited conversation about holiday traditions, grandparenthood, and relationship questions submitted by listeners. With Thanksgiving in the air, they celebrate family, reflect on loss, and dish out real talk on serial dating, jealousy, and how to respectfully balance family roles. The discussion is warm, humorous, and honest—perfect for anyone looking for advice and camaraderie from women who have lived a little.

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1. Thanksgiving Traditions & Family Memories (03:58–19:04)

• The episode kicks off with Kathy and Susan exchanging heartfelt and hilarious stories about their holiday traditions.
  • Passing down holiday cooking responsibilities to the next generation.
  • Importance of family heirlooms (china, silver, etc.) at the table.
  • The joy (and madness) of big family gatherings.
  • Unique family recipes—Italian wedding soup, pecan pie, eggnog bread.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “My kids do the cooking, I bring the wine, the champagne, and I bring my homemade eggnog bread. But I don’t have to do the turkey.” – Kathy (04:25)
  • “Thanksgiving is my favorite… because the gift giving isn’t there… it’s a family day.” – Susan (07:20)
  • “Everybody eats, you drink, and then you’re staring at piles of dirty dishes. Come on. It’s not all a Norman Rockwell day. Let’s be serious.” – Kathy (07:38)
  • Susan on using real china vs. paper plates, and siblings who break tradition. (08:17–09:13)

Dealing with Loss During the Holidays

• Kathy and Susan candidly discuss the difficulty of missing loved ones at the holiday table—acknowledging grief and honoring those who aren’t there.
  • “There’s one really important person missing… my husband.” – Kathy (10:24)
  • “Our list is getting so big. I’ve lost two brothers, both parents. We can’t mention them all by name now, right?” – Susan (11:07)

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2. Holiday Cooking: Disasters and Debates (11:35–19:04)

• Arguing over stuffing recipes—inside the bird or on the side? Sausage as a secret ingredient?
  • “Has anybody ever put sausage in their stuffing? This is—” – Susan (11:35)
  • Jell-O salad nostalgia and its supposed comeback.
  • Cookie exchanges: fun family chaos or a waste of good flour?
  • “Cookies exchange to me… are like Halloween getting a banana… No, thank you. I want to make my own cookies.” – Kathy (18:40)

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3. Relationship Q&A: Serial Dating & Communication (25:01–30:32)

What Do Serial Daters Miss Out On? (25:01)

• Kathy and Susan debate whether being a “serial dater” means you miss out on something by never being single.
• Differentiating commitment issues from lifestyle choice.
  • “Some people don’t want to be committed… do they like being alone? Yeah, they spend time by themselves.” – Kathy (26:39)
  • Both agree serial dating isn’t for them, but also defend it as a valid lifestyle choice for others.
  • “I don’t think I’d be good at serial dating at all. I’m a relationship person.” – Susan (27:39)
  • Caution about expectations: “Don’t go dating a serial dater… and expect you’re gonna turn him or her around because you’re probably delusional.” – Kathy (30:28)

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4. Listener Questions: Compromise, Jealousy, and “Hall Passes” (30:32–45:25)

Should I Stop Swearing for My Boyfriend? (30:32)

• Listener “Anonymous” worries after reading her name in her boyfriend’s journal criticizing her swearing.
  • Kathy: “Don’t say a word… Stop swearing. That’s all. It’s that simple.” (32:04)
  • Susan: “Never tell, because it’s not like you were snooping… You want to know things that bother him so you don’t do them any more—that’s like a gift.” (33:09)
  • Both strongly agree this is a minor thing, easy to compromise on.
  • “If that’s the biggest issue you and your boyfriend have, you’re lucky!” – Kathy (35:32)

My Boyfriend Picked an Influencer as His Hall Pass (41:04)

• Listener Shelly is unsettled her boyfriend picked a (real, non-celebrity) influencer as his “hall pass.”
  • Susan: “It’s not fun to be jealous, but that’s what this is.” (42:14)
  • Kathy: “A hall pass means if Matthew McConaughey rings my doorbell and I’m married…it’s okay if Matthew and I… It’s just kind of a fun thing, like a celebrity crush, really.” (43:00)
  • Both see Shelly as overreacting, reminding her it’s harmless unless it’s about someone real and accessible.
  • “When you really gotta worry… is when he’s telling you he’s got a crush on the girl next door, literally. Then you might have a problem.” – Kathy (44:50)

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5. Golden Spotlight: The Joys and Challenges of Grandparenting (45:27–58:57)

• Balancing grandparent wisdom with kids’ parenting styles.
  • Never asking children when they’re having kids—respecting boundaries.
  • “Worry about your own life, not your children's. It’s their decision.” – Kathy (46:06)
• Learning to bite your tongue when you disagree with your child’s parenting.
  • “There is a dichotomy between the amount of advice they want and the amount of advice we want to give.” – Kathy (49:12)
  • “I might have bitten my tip off a couple times.” – Susan (47:42)
• On being a grandmother (“Mimi” and “Kiki”).
  • Both women are deeply passionate about grandparenthood, cherishing the special bond and the freedom to “give them back.”
  • “I love it beyond…because they love me. They’re never mad at me because I always say yes most of the time.” – Susan (50:39)
  • “One of the best things about being a grandparent… they come and they go. I love on them… and then it’s like ‘here you go, honey, bye, bye! Kiki loves you!’” – Kathy (58:22)
• Challenges:
  • Feeling pressure to be the “fun” grandparent; coming up with creative activities.
  • Coping with distance from grandchildren or missing big moments.
  • Worrying about being “here” for their milestones.

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6. Closing Thoughts & Community Call (58:58–59:51)

• Kathy and Susan invite listeners to submit their own ideas for easy crafts and share grandparenting tips.
• Encouragement to stay engaged and grateful during the holidays.

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Key Timestamps

• Thanksgiving Traditions: 03:58–11:07
• Grief and Family Loss: 10:24–11:21
• Cooking Debates/Chaos: 11:35–19:04
• Serial Dating Discussion: 25:01–30:32
• Listener Q: Swearing Compromise: 30:32–35:27
• Listener Q: Hall Pass Jealousy: 41:04–45:25
• Grandparenting Deep Dive: 45:27–58:57

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Tone & Style

Warm, lively, and filled with relatable humor (“Damn, Shelly, you found out about me.” – Kathy (42:14)). The hosts share candid personal details, laugh at their failures, and dish out advice as if chatting across the kitchen table. They’re nurturing but blunt—never mean, but always honest.

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Memorable Moments

• Kathy’s story about friends mishandling a Thanksgiving turkey:
  “Even I know that one. She goes, ‘I’ll just stick it back in the freezer.’ I said, you cannot.” (14:18)
• The “cookie exchange” rant:
  “Cookies exchange to me… are like Halloween getting a banana… No, thank you.” – Kathy (18:40)
• On the joys of grandparenting:
  “They come and they go… and then it’s like ‘bye! Kiki loves you!’” – Kathy (58:22)

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Summary

This episode balances laughter and wisdom, providing both lighthearted entertainment and real talk about the importance of gratitude, flexibility in family, and understanding in relationships. Kathy and Susan don’t claim to have all the answers, but they do deliver straight-up advice and plenty of support for anyone navigating the messiness of family, love, and getting older—just in time for the holiday season.

Transcript

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[Susan]

Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us. We're so excited to be back. Kathy.

[Kathy]

Always, always excited. I'm great. I'm great. Today we're answering more of your questions, but thank you. First, we wanted to wish you all a very, very happy Thanksgiving. Can you believe Thanksgiving is here?

[Susan]

Susan, I cannot. But I don't know if anybody is as crazy as I am. I think every year it gets worse instead of better.

[Kathy]

Well, for me, I have passed the torch, as they say. So my kids do the cooking, I bring the wine, the champagne, and I bring my homemade eggnog bread. But I don't have to do the turkey.

[Susan]

Do you hear this, people? Well, wait, did you hear what she's saying? When was the last time that you made a turkey? Because you just said I passed.

[Kathy]

Well, I passed the torch, meaning our tradition is always to get out the Christmas china. And that's the first day we use it. It's Thanksgiving Day. And my daughter now has my Christmas china. My son and daughter have my sterling silver and the crystal glass. All the stuff we use for the holidays. But we have traditions, like, I make pecan pie. I make eggnog bread. I make cranberry bread. I do the baking. My husband always did the turkey. So when I say I passed the.

[Susan]

Fork, okay, that's what I was doing.

[Kathy]

The turkey is now residing at my daughter and son's house.

[Susan]

She's not a girl in the kitchen, but she can bake. And you did tell me about that egg.

[Kathy]

Now I'm going to bring you some. What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

[Susan]

What do you entertain? Of course. I can't even count. Maybe 20, 25 pound bird. The soup has already been made. You know, I make Italian wedding soup.

[Kathy]

Which is because, you know, I heard the pilgrims came across with some Italian wedding soup. That is amazing that you have kept the recipe.

[Susan]

But I have graduated to dictating side dishes. I always and forever did everything on my own. And I'm getting up there and nobody wants to take that torch, if you will. So now I have somebody bringing the green bean casserole. And somebody's always. Somebody brings pumpkin pie. But go ahead, make it. You want Mac and cheese?

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Go ahead.

[Susan]

You want sweet potatoes.

[Kathy]

So do you have traditional foods that you. Cause we do traditional foods that you only cook on Thanksgiving.

[Susan]

Only on Thanksgiving and Christmas is the same. And if I swayed on Christmas day, they would have heart failure. Heart failure. I am so bored with Christmas dinner.

[Kathy]

So wait, you do the exact same thing for Thanksgiving and Christmas?

[Susan]

No, absolutely not. Because I'm not that big of a fan of turkey. So I do the ham, but we add the Italian to Christmas. It used to be on Thanksgiving as well with the raviolis, the meatballs. Now they go, what? We're not having raviolis? Not on Thanksgiving, No.

[Kathy]

We add the Jewish. We have kugel. No, I'm just saying we do like pecan pieces, sweet potatoes. We do mashed potatoes, gravy. The stuffing seems to be always different. We seem to experiment on stuffings, which, you know, I don't get. But I love Thanksgiving. It's my daughter's, actually my daughter's favorite holiday. It's not my favorite. I love it.

[Susan]

It is one of my favorites. You know why?

[Kathy]

Let me guess. You get to cook.

[Susan]

No. The gift giving isn't there. It's not that everybody has to say something they're grateful for. It's a family day and. Or friends. But it's just to be together. There's no side stuff, no present opening, and kids running around looking, you know, fighting over a gift or.

[Kathy]

The babies I love. We do the same thing. I will also say my son started this tradition recently with his family. Every night at dinner, they say the highs and lows for their day, which I love. And so at Thanksgiving, you know, we always have the same prayer that we say every year. And you're right, it's about family. It's about eating. But come on, come on, Bachelor nation, come stay with me on this. I love all the food, but it's craziness, right? Everybody eats, you drink, and then you're staring at piles of dirty dishes. Come on. It's not all a Norman Rockwell day. Let's be serious.

[Susan]

I don't know if anybody else out there is like this, but, Kathy, like you, my grandmother's china would only come out on Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter. My sisters, who never entertain on a holiday and cook. My one sister doesn't cook at all. Lisa is a really good cook. And they all come. Never ever do I not want to put that china out. They have a rule. Don't even think about setting the table. I go, what now?

[Kathy]

I put, it's at your house. Yes, you.

[Susan]

They don't get paper plates. Are you ready for this? Paper turkey plates.

[Kathy]

Big, they're sturdy.

[Susan]

And even the silver. I go, are you freaking crazy?

[Kathy]

Wait a minute. Wait, wait.

[Susan]

They're killing me.

[Kathy]

Hold on. Killing me. Hold on. I want everyone to hear this. You use paper plates.

[Susan]

No, I don't.

[Kathy]

They will.

[Susan]

My china will be set right in front of me.

[Kathy]

I say your house, your rules. Anyway, I. I really cannot believe that the holidays are here. As you know, I already have all my Christmas decorations up. But I really do love to take a moment at Thanksgiving and really just be in the moment to be grateful for my family, my friends, my health. And I wish. I know you do too. But I wanna wish everybody the happiest and healthiest of Thanksgiving. I hope if you're alone, you find a neighbor, a friend, somewhere to donate your time. I just hope you find someone to share a meal with and just look back on the air and be grateful for all of your blessings. Because even though times are tough, say it out loud.

[Susan]

Say something or a few things that you're grateful for. I mean, giving thanks is what this day is about. Also, for those that are gonna be sad that just. I just went to the UPS store a little couple hours ago, and she just lost her dad. It's Always seems like it's this time of the year, people lose people. I don't know why that find that it's around holidays that people pass.

[Kathy]

I don't find that as much, but thanks a lot for putting that on me. Now. I'll let you know if somebody drops dead today. But I think, and you and I have talked about this, for me, the holidays are hard because I really try to maintain all the traditions. And we'll talk about this again on another podcast, maybe before the holidays. But I try to maintain all the traditions with my family. But you know what? There's one really important person missing in my immediate family, and that's my husband. He's not at the table, and my parents aren't there. And these were the times when we all got together. And I think the holidays bring that up. But you know what? I try to focus on the positive. My grandchildren, my children, who is there and who's not there?

[Susan]

So during the prayer, we always talk about those that aren't with us. And our list is getting so big. I've lost two brothers, both parents. You know, it's like, okay, we can't mention them all by name now, right?

[Kathy]

Well, Susan, I'm wishing you a happy, happy Thanksgiving.

[Susan]

Thank you, Kathy.

[Kathy]

And you. Wishing all our listeners one too.

[Susan]

Happy, healthy, everybody stay healthy. And be grateful.

[Kathy]

And be grateful, because we have a lot to be grateful for.

[Susan]

So how do you make your stuffing? I love this, people. I mean, those of you that are listening, let me know. Has anybody ever put sausage in their stuffing? This is.

[Kathy]

I do. That's Canadian. I do.

[Susan]

Is it?

[Kathy]

Yeah, my stepmom's recipe had sausage in it, and it's delicious. But I told you, every year we seem to try a new stuffing, so I never get the same one twice.

[Susan]

Right. Now, did you stuff the bird or do you like it on the side? Baked by itself. I like it stuffed.

[Kathy]

We stuff the bird, but we don't typically eat it because all the things of bacteria and botulism and, you know, things that I can't pronounce with 19 syllables, but apparently when you stuff the bird, there's things, bacteria that gets in it. So typically, I cook and I have done this stuffing before. Do one outside the bird and then one inside the bird. Scoop out the bird. It does flavor it, you know, it does flavor bird.

[Susan]

Flavors the stuffing, too.

[Kathy]

I'm going to blow your mind right now, Susan. This is a yes or no.

[Susan]

Okay.

[Kathy]

Kathy, has ever made turkey soup from the turkey carcass?

[Susan]

Yes.

[Kathy]

You are right.

[Susan]

Yes, why else would you say that, Kathy? That was a no brainer.

[Kathy]

I know, but you know, I don't cook, so.

[Susan]

Has Susan ever made turkey soup from the carcass?

[Kathy]

I'm gonna go, no, you're right.

[Susan]

Oh, my gosh. I know all that. I'm not doing that too. I give it away and somebody else makes it and I'll eat it.

[Kathy]

Unbelievable. I cannot believe you don't make turkey soup.

[Susan]

All right, well, I make a lot of soups, too.

[Kathy]

I know you do. Well, Happy, how about.

[Susan]

How about the frosting? The bird? Okay. Who 25 pound bird. I'm reading the thing and I go, oh, my gosh. It was like 24 hours a pound or something. I was like, wait, wait, wait. No, wait. I've got five hours per five or one day per five pounds.

[Kathy]

I'm like, oh, my God, get out your calculator. I have the funniest story before we get on with our. Our show here. Yeah. I was over to friends. Oh, gosh, at least a week ago, and she was so proud. She'd been to Costco and she had her. She goes, you know, turkeys are expensive and they're hard to find and, you know, whatever. And so she's got the turkey and a couple of us are over there having, you know, ladies chat night with wine. And we both look at each other and I said to my friend, bath you. What are you talking about? It's ten days before Thanksgiving. She goes, it can stay in the refrigerator. Said, for 10 days? Yes. I started laughing. She knows that I don't cook. I said, beth, I don't even.

[Susan]

You knew that.

[Kathy]

Even I know that one. She goes, are you serious? Wait, it gets worse. She goes, I'll just stick it back in the freezer. I said, you cannot.

[Susan]

Well, was it defrosted already?

[Kathy]

Yes.

[Susan]

Oh, yes, yes. Throw that bird out.

[Kathy]

I said, you have two choices here. Throw that bird out or cook it tomorrow and bring me some turkey. I don't know what she did because I did not get any turkey.

[Susan]

One of those deep fried turkeys.

[Kathy]

I. I live in Texas. I have. Yeah, I have. Yeah.

[Susan]

I mean, it's okay. It's just not. Your house. Doesn't smell good. And that beautiful golden turkey that sits there just shining.

[Kathy]

I actually love turkey. I mean, I love.

[Susan]

I.

[Kathy]

You're gonna be shocked. As you know, Susan, I can cook. I just don't. I make a homemade cranberry sauce. None of this crap out of the can for me. I make if when I used to cook and have Thanksgiving Here. Like I said, my husband Darrell did the, did the bird. The kids, as I got older, would bring, you know, the mashed potatoes or something. Well, really not, because my husband had to have them a certain way, so he made those too. But I would do all the baking and I would make homemade cranberry sauce. Now, can I give you reason number 4962, why I don't? Because I would spend the time making it and my kids would come over and go, where's the sliced, you know, the ocean spray out of the can. I was like, what? I mean, really? It's just like, really, kids.

[Susan]

What about salads? Like, you know how you prepare a beautiful salad with every meal? Right.

[Kathy]

Most meals we don't do green salad.

[Susan]

On the holidays, they go, don't make the salad.

[Kathy]

We don't have room. No, but do you. Okay, Susan, we're gonna show our age here. Do you make Jell O salads?

[Susan]

I've had them. No.

[Kathy]

Okay. Can I tell you, I saw on the news and we all know everything you see and hear on TV is true. They said that Jell O salads are making a huge comeback this year. And I have some great ones with Coca Cola, that it's like a fizzy salad. I might crank them out again and make one. Yeah, with cream. I'm just trying to prove to everyone that I can cook. So when Mr. Wright does come along, I can cook him a fabulous Thanksgiving.

[Susan]

Did you make your own whipped cream?

[Kathy]

I do make my. I absolutely. When I make all my pies, I make homemade whipped cream. I'm weird baking. I will do anything from scratch. I, I make my own pie crust. I do not buy the store bought pie crust baker.

[Susan]

I'm not.

[Kathy]

You know why? I'm a good baker. And you know why you're not? I love you.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

But you know why?

[Susan]

Measure out everything and you follow the.

[Kathy]

Directions and baking is precise.

[Susan]

A little bit more of this or a little pinch.

[Kathy]

Not in baking. Not in baking. In baking, if you put in a little too much baking powder or baking soda, the thing is going to rise right over the pan. You have to measure or if you.

[Susan]

Forget it, it won't rise at all.

[Kathy]

Well, exactly. But I'm saying I am. I measure. You're exactly right. And baking is a precise.

[Susan]

I do make cookies, Italian cookies, only once a year around Christmas. And this year and of course I make the regatta cookies. And you gotta ice in every one of them and put the sprinkles on them, the whole bit. But this year, my Sisters. And I do a cookie day at my house. I have the smallest oven, the biggest house, but the smallest oven. They've got these grand ovens. Nobody goes to their house. They just like to destroy mine. And we have music playing and mimosas go. And it's fun. And we are all full of flour. And who's making this? Everybody makes a different cookie. Well, this year I also go to a cookie exchange and it's usually the day after me and my sisters. Guess what, Kath? This year my cookie exchange is the day before I make cookies. So now I gotta throw that in the mix.

[Kathy]

Or Susan, it would not be beneath me. I gotta be honest. Making Christmas cookies, I do it with the grandkids to ice. You know, the sugar cookies. Yeah, but that dough and stuff, I don't. I just buy the sugar cookies and we cut them out and decorate them.

[Susan]

Grandkids.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but I have never. Well, actually I went to a cookie exchange once and they're a nightmare. They're a nightmare. I'm people out there.

[Susan]

Do you guys like cookie exchange? Because what I bring home half of it I wouldn't even eat.

[Kathy]

Well, it's like, you know what? To me, okay, I'm gonna take flack for this. Cookies exchange to me, are like, are like Halloween getting a banana, you know, someone giving you a sliced apple, like, no, thank you. I want to make my own cookies.

[Susan]

Kathy, we could go on talking forever, but it's time to get into the episode. So let's start with the question of the day.

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[Susan]

Okay Cath, what do you think think about serial daters. And what do you think are the most important things they miss out on by never being single?

[Kathy]

Okay, so I'm gonna. I hold on to your chair. Susan, I'm gonna ask you to explain something to me.

[Susan]

Okay?

[Kathy]

Are you ready? A serial dater to me means Someone who never settles down with one person. They're just constantly. That is where the cereal comes in. Constantly dating people. They're, you know, they got Sally one night, Susie the next. And if you're a guy. Right.

[Susan]

Yes. Yes.

[Kathy]

Okay, so my question is they never commit. Well, they never commit, but the question I have is a question on the question of the day. Is it that they don't ever want to be single or what you just said that they don't want to commit. Because I'm not sure. So that's my question. Do you think being a serial dater means they're afraid or missing out on being single?

[Susan]

What do you think that that's what they enjoy and they only want to date, so they don't want to commit. But what the question read was, what do you think are the most important things they miss out on by never being single? I think what you would miss out on is meeting the right person, like when you're not looking and you're not crazily dating 100 people.

[Kathy]

But maybe they don't want it. That's my point.

[Susan]

That's exactly right.

[Kathy]

That is my point. I'm. They. I think people who are serial. I think it's a. This is a judgy question in my book.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Kathy]

Because some people don't want to be committed. I have friends now at this age who say to me, I don't want to be with one man. I like going out and dating. And. And do they like being alone? Yeah, they spend time by the. They travel by themselves. So I don't think they're necessarily connected. I think, is what I'm saying. I. I think that people who are serial daters, either what you just said, don't want to commit, or they just like, you know, varieties, the spice of life.

[Susan]

Have they dated more than one person at one time?

[Kathy]

Could you say no? I mean, I've had a date with someone and then a week later gone out with someone else and then maybe gone back and had a date with the first guy. But no, I don't. Listen, I'm old. I can barely remember the days of the week at this point. Let's see. Was it John tonight? Jim? I can't remember.

[Susan]

I could not keep that together.

[Kathy]

No.

[Susan]

But I don't think I'd be good at serial dating at all. I'm a relationship person.

[Kathy]

Yeah, I am, too. I am too. But I think I. I think for me, I am definitely single. Sad to say at this point, but I think I don't miss out if I. If I am dating, like, do you feel like you missing out? You are actually a good example, Susan. You have to be dating. You're rarely single. I mean, now you're really not single. But you've always said to me for years, but no, but you always had someone to date you always.

[Susan]

No, I went years.

[Kathy]

Well, since I know you met me. Yeah.

[Susan]

After you met me. I didn't meet Frederica until this year.

[Kathy]

No, you were dating you dad several dates with guys in the time I've known you. Do we need a list?

[Susan]

Dates? Because I went back to somebody I was familiar with to hang out with.

[Kathy]

Date. No, no, no. But then you had some other guys you dated. I. I don't know. For me, I don't mind. I'm very happy being by myself. And I've had to come to terms with that because I never thought I would be so.

[Susan]

But nobody thinks that.

[Kathy]

Yeah, but I think for me, like, they're serial dating, which is, you know, I need something.

[Susan]

Serial daters. Okay, So a man dates constantly.

[Kathy]

Yeah.

[Susan]

And for me, looking at that picture, I wouldn't be able to ask him certain questions like, well, what are we doing this week? Because you got to wait for him to ask you for another date. There's one relationship. What if he's dating? Serial dating. But he dates the same person every week.

[Kathy]

Well, wait a minute. Wait a second. You're saying he's the serial dater. I'm saying, what if I'm dating? Which I haven't done, but if I'm dating, let's call it three guys at a time, you know, And I. And I. Maybe I'm gonna call him and say, hey, Rick, do you want to go to the balloon festival in Albuquerque with me next weekend? I mean, it doesn't always have to be the guy. I'm saying, for me, I can't do it. It's too. I can't keep my own day straight.

[Susan]

You know, I would get their names confused, even. I mean.

[Kathy]

Yeah. I don't necessarily think people miss out on anything. Not being single if they. I think it's a. It's a lifestyle. It's a choice.

[Susan]

I do.

[Kathy]

And I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily to be a serial dater.

[Susan]

I wouldn't know. Date. I'm sorry. I wouldn't want to date a serial dater because that. My idea of dating is getting to know somebody to go into a relationship and get comfortable with. To me, dating, you don't have sex. You don't ask certain Questions. You don't expect things, right? Like you would in a relationship.

[Kathy]

Well, yeah, I think. I think I know this wasn't precisely the question, but you and I often go rogue on these things. I think the bigger issue is what you just said. You have to know if you're dating a serial dater, what the limitations are, and if you're both good with it, great. But that's to your point. Don't go dating a serial dater who you know is dating you Friday night, somebody else Saturday night, somebody else for brunch on Sunday, and be expected that you're gonna turn him or her around because you're probably delusional. All right, let's get into our fan questions and see if somebody wants to know about serial dating today. I'm going to start us off. Here we go. Question one is from Anonymous. Hi, ladies. I need to know if this is something I should compromise on. So I was using my boyfriend's iPad the other day. He gave me the password when he got it and told me I could use it whenever. And he accidentally left his journal up. When I realized, I went to swipe away, but I saw my name. I only caught a glimpse of it, and it was about him hating that. I swear so much. I really wish I didn't see it, but now it's stuck in my head. We've been together for over a year and he's never brought this up before. Should I say something? I don't even really swear that much. I'm not sure what to do and would love any advice you have. Thank you. Oh, I can answer this so quickly. Don't say a word so quickly. You want to be your boyfriend. It's really simple, sweetie. Stop swearing. Stop swearing. That's all. It's that simple. And your boyfriend, Your boyfriend. I would bring it up to him. After you go six months without swearing, I might say, hey, Johnny, did you notice that I don't say the F word? I don't say, you know. You know, the whole sounding like saying, I'm on air. Did you notice? And when he looks and says, yeah, say, you know what? I saw it in your iPad that you didn't like me swearing. And I like you so much that I made that change for you. And, oh, by the way, be careful what you put in your iPad, because I do have the password.

[Susan]

No, I would never.

[Kathy]

I'm kidding. I was joking at the last, but I think. I don't think it's.

[Susan]

I don't think I would tell. I mean, it doesn't sound like she read the whole thing. She just saw.

[Kathy]

I mean, I'd let it go. I would just. I'd stop swearing, and I would let it.

[Susan]

Stop swearing. Try to be more.

[Kathy]

I mean, how do you stop swearing, Susan?

[Susan]

Damn it, Kathy.

[Kathy]

Yeah, I mean, but that's a good one.

[Susan]

Anonymous. Like, never tell, because it's not like you were snooping. You would just want to use it. But first of all, I'm impressed that a man still writes a journal. Okay, but to leave it up on his iPad.

[Kathy]

Well, hold on. Wait a minute.

[Susan]

Maybe he wanted her to see that.

[Kathy]

There you go. Look at you. Conspiracy theorist over here. I think. I mean, listen, what I would say is, get your own iPad, stop using his. And. Oh, you never.

[Susan]

You want to know things that bother him so you don't do them anymore? That's like a gift. It's a gift. And if you really do like them. And I swear a lot, too, but I don't swear, like, at people, but I just say stupid words Anyhow.

[Kathy]

Wait a minute. I have to ask a question.

[Susan]

Yes?

[Kathy]

The first question she said was, I need to know if this is something I should compromise on. What's the compromise, sweetheart? Anonymous. I mean, it's either hell yes or hell no. You're either. There's no comp. You're going to say every other day.

[Susan]

I mean, well, maybe she. Because she's obviously thinking she doesn't do that much, but maybe it's more than she realizes. So just take a. Do a self check.

[Kathy]

Okay, so we were talking earlier about compromise and settling. Yes, this would clearly be a compromise issue. And probably anonymous, the smallest one you're ever going to compromise on. I mean, is he a goody two shoes, though?

[Susan]

I mean, does he not even say damn? Like we don't know who we're dealing with?

[Kathy]

I don't know, but I find it interesting that you and I were talking about compromises in earlier podcasts. Compromising and settling. This is clearly not settling. It's. You know, life is tough, Anonymous. Life gets tough. If you're happy with your boyfriend, compromise. And I put quotes around it. Stop your damn swearing, okay?

[Susan]

And he's never brought it up to you, so just leave well enough alone. That was a little gift from your little guardian angel, saying there's one thing that he's not real, it doesn't care for. So just alter it a little bit. Don't change overnight and be holier than now. You know, just be you, but just be aware, that's all.

[Kathy]

Yeah, be aware. And you know.

[Susan]

Yes.

[Kathy]

God, if that's the biggest issue. You and your boyfriend.

[Susan]

I know. You're lucky.

[Kathy]

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[Susan]

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But you like to start decorating right after Halloween?

No, after Thanksgiving. Okay, that's different. That's different. Halloween? No, not Halloween.

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[Susan]

All right, the next one, Kathy, is from Shelley.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Susan]

She says hi, Kathy and Susan, I need to know if I am overreacting. My boyfriend has always had a crush on a really popular influencer.

[Kathy]

Oh, no, I've. Shelly knows about her.

[Susan]

Talk about her once when it came up in a group setting. But I'm fully aware of how he feels about her, lol. Well, during a game night with our friends, he was asked if he has a celebrity hall pass. To which he stated, this influencer. We've never discussed this and it honestly really put me off. I hate the idea of hall passes and would not be comfortable with that since it's so unlikely it'll ever happen as it's. Is it worth me bringing up that I am not okay with it? I guess since she's an influencer and not a full blown celebrity, it feels slightly more possible. I just can't get it out of my head. Let me know if you think I'm overreacting. Can I just say one thing? It's not fun to be jealous, but that's what this is.

[Kathy]

Can I. Can I. I mean, we're going to talk about this, but Shelley, first of all, when you said your boyfriend all has always had a crush on a really popular influencer. Damn, Shelly, you found out about me. Just kidding. Yes, you are. Oh, she is overreacting.

[Susan]

Yes.

[Kathy]

So let me just say my Kathy.

[Susan]

School me hall pass.

[Kathy]

Okay. I knew you. That's where I was going. A lot of people don't know what it means. A hall pass means if. If, you know, if I have a. If I have a Crush on Matthew McConaughey and I'm. Hey, can I have a hall pass? Meaning if Matthew McConaughey comes around, you know, I can get it on.

[Susan]

Hall pass means with your partner. In other words, it's okay.

[Kathy]

Hall pass means if Matthew McConaughey rings my doorbell and I'm married. In or in a relationship. It's okay if Matthew and I.

[Susan]

Yes, it's okay with your. Whoever. Person.

[Kathy]

Yeah, it's called the hall pass. Like a free ride.

[Susan]

Say no to hall passes.

[Kathy]

Well, come on. Are you overreacting, Shelly? Yes, you are. My kids talk about hall passes with each other. You know, that somebody, an athlete that one finds attractive or. I mean, it's. It's more just a kind of a fun thing. I think Susan's right. Jealousy. Especially of somebody who's out in the lithosphere who has probably no chance of ever meeting your boyfriend. And it's like. It's like a celebrity crush. Really?

[Susan]

Yes. I mean, and I know how she feels because I feel like. Well, I want him to think that about me. I want him to get excited about.

[Kathy]

Me instead of serious.

[Susan]

Sure. I've always done that.

[Kathy]

No, no, no. You're gonna have a problem if Frederic has a celebrity crush on Jennifer Aniston. Or. Or Dicky.

[Susan]

My. My ex husband loved Julie Roberts.

[Kathy]

And that bothered you?

[Susan]

No.

[Kathy]

Okay, well, that's what we're talking about here. A. A really popular influencer, which means that she is probably on social media and she's. Who cares? I don't mean to make light.

[Susan]

No, I agree with that. I do agree with it, but it's the feeling that he thinks somebody's all that when you want him to think you're all that. That's how she's feeling right now.

[Kathy]

Insecure. You're both insecure?

[Susan]

Yes.

[Kathy]

Both of you. Shelly, you and Susan need to have a little conversation.

[Susan]

I'm graduated.

[Kathy]

Trust me.

[Susan]

I'm 60.

[Kathy]

Okay, I, I, I have.

[Susan]

But I get it.

[Kathy]

I think it's cute when you really got to worry. Shelly. And is when he's telling you he's got a crush on the girl next door, literally. Who lives next door. Then you might have a problem or he spends too much time with the boss's wife. Now you got a problem. Do I think you're overreacting? 100%? Yes.

[Susan]

Shelley obviously thinks he's hot. Yeah. But you know somebody that you think's hot. That's all.

[Kathy]

But he's your boyfriend, you know? Enjoy it and relax. I really think you're overreacting.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Kathy]

And I don't mean to make fun of Shelley, but let it go.

[Susan]

Let it go.

[Kathy]

Okay.

[Susan]

All right. Today we're going to do another golden spotlight. This time, we're talking about grandchildren that we adore. Kathy. Okay. How to ask your children politely about when they're having kids, balancing your children's wishes as parents and your wisdom about parenting as a grandparent. What? It's like.

[Kathy]

Whoa, whoa. Let's take one of the. Okay, let's take one at a time here. Let's. Let's start with. I have never asked my children if and when they were having kids. Did you?

[Susan]

No, I did not. I got surprised really early on.

[Kathy]

Yeah. I don't think it's appropriate to ask your children when they're having kids, that's their decision. And I will tell you, my husband and I were married eight and a half years before we had our first child. And my fabulous in laws, yes, they did say when are you gonna have children? You know, and then we had three. They said when are you gonna stop having children? So, you know, I have learned to never ask those questions. I think that is, we, we know that we love being grandparents and, and we don't. Some people don't say it with any malicious intent. It's really, I just want to be a grandmother. I want to be a grandfather. But I really think you don't know what's going on behind closed doors. You don't, you don't know if your children can afford the child. You don't know if job. You don't know if they maybe can't get pregnant. You know what? Worry about your own life, not your children difference.

[Susan]

And I think a lot of this is, and this is difficult for many, many grandparents. When you're watching your child and their spouse or your, you know, whether it's your son or your daughter, how they're raising their children and what you don't agree with some things, it's really difficult to bite your damn tongue. I might have bitten my tip off a couple times. I think it's only once or twice that I've actually raised my voice for my opinion that I think they're dead wrong. And you really need to think about this.

[Kathy]

Well, I will tell you how to stay neutral. Neutral? Yeah.

[Susan]

But it kills you when you walk away, Kathy. It eats me up.

[Kathy]

Well, I stay neutral for the most part, except occasional. First of all, you know, my son is remarried. The one, Kyle, the one. You, you officiate his wedding and his, my granddaughter, who's seven is just, just an angel. I mean, but you know, she's a product of divorce. She's had to grow up quickly. She has great manners. I think my son, Kyle, if you are listening, I think you are a fabulous dad. Now, my daughter and they're, they have a two year old and. But I, she's going to kill me for saying this. The other day I said, caitlyn, you're raising a terrorist. I mean the child is so stubborn. I love her. I laugh, but I, it's very.

[Susan]

To her Mimi or Kiki.

[Kathy]

No, no, I am not stubborn. She, except her father. Oh yeah, he is stubborn. Caitlin can be stubborn. But oh no, this child. There's, there is now a picture of my granddaughter in the dictionary under the word stubborn. But I say very little. Like, occasionally, I will say something, and my daughter now listens to me because, you know, I don't know if you know this, Susan, but I was very stupid in my daughter's eyes until she had a child.

[Susan]

Oh, my. I share that.

[Kathy]

It is.

[Susan]

I told you, she calls me now.

[Kathy]

How did you do this?

[Susan]

How did you.

[Kathy]

I do think that we have wisdom, and I think our kids, when they want our advice, they'll ask for it. Unfortunately, there is a dichotomy between the amount of advice they want and the amount of advice we want to give is the product problem. But it's their like, ask, by all.

[Susan]

Means, we'll give them our opinion or.

[Kathy]

Oh, come on. Are you saying you never give advice when you're not asked?

[Susan]

No, I try not to. With Britney, I do.

[Kathy]

You try, Christopher.

[Susan]

I jump in if I think he's too hard on Mason, and I'll say it. I jump in more when I think they're being unreasonable and you're having a bad day and you're taking it out on your kids. Kids. You know, we just had a situation like that, and Dickie was venting with me, and I said, you know, Dickie, I did those things. He goes, she was cussing, like, he didn't do anything wrong. I said, we've had. You weren't here. You were off playing baseball. I was dealing with kids day in, day out, and they didn't submit their homework or their project on time yet it was done. I am frustrated. I'm having a bad day. And yes, we do stupid things that we regret, but. But it happens, so don't judge them for that.

[Kathy]

Yeah, I mean, I. I don't, and I don't think you do either. I want to know, on a scale of 1 to 10, Susan, how much do you like being a grandmother?

[Susan]

Oh, my God. So much.

[Kathy]

Susan's grandmother's name is Mimi, and I'm Kiki. So how do you like being a Mimi?

[Susan]

I love it. I love it. I love it beyond. Because they love me. They love me. They're never mad at me because I always say yes most of the time. I mean, I have said no, but it kills me.

[Kathy]

So. The little terrorist who shall go nameless. When I. When I come into her house lately, she'll look at me, well, when I first come, and she'll go, kiki. And she'll run and hug and kiss me. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, now it's time to have dinner or something. And I'll say, okay, Reese, we're gonna get up in your high chair, whatever. And she'll say, no, Kiki, no. And Kiki, sit there. I mean, I'm telling you, the child is. I killed it. I love those. My two granddaughters like no other. I. I don't think I was prepared for how much I would love them. No, now, I know, but here's my question. I mean, we know Frederic lives, so you just have to work with me here. How do you feel about moving away? Because I know your. Your daughter's children don't live quite as close, but pretty close. How would you feel about. But I. Chris's daughter, you see a lot. How would you feel about not being able to see your grandchildren like.

[Susan]

Like on a weekly basis? I'd have to. I. There would be some rules that I would get here every eight, 10 weeks. Yeah.

[Kathy]

Oh, yeah. My thing is, I couldn't do it. Mine would be once a month if I would come and spend a week out of every month if I could. Because they grow so fast.

[Susan]

I know they do. And you miss so many things, like they're. I was with you, actually, on a cruise, and Stella had her first dance recital, and I wasn't there. And it killed me, but it killed my son even more.

[Kathy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Susan]

I was there for her first cheerleading game in the rain. So at least I got to do that. So, you know, there's.

[Kathy]

Do you.

[Susan]

Some things can't be helped.

[Kathy]

That. That's. It can't do. You see, I see my children doing some of the things that I did as a parent. I see them do now, even though, like, I'll give you an example. Kyle's daughter, my granddaughter Lindley, she plays piano. And you don't know this, or maybe you do. My three kids were. They won competitions. They had offers for free rides for music. I mean, they were really good, but. But I. I was a terrorist. They practiced an hour a day, every day. They were really accomplished pianists. And they used to. And moan about it.

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[Kathy]

But now Kyle has Lindley taking piano, and he's not as rigid, I mean, who could be, as I was about practice? But I see that he realizes how important it is a musical instrument is.

[Susan]

And, I mean, you're paying a lot of money to have them get lessons. And the piano, it's itself. And so. But it's just.

[Kathy]

It's just. It's the. It's the structure of. It's. First of all, I mean, I love music and I love hearing piano, but it's the structure of this is Part of your day. You're going to practice in. In. Lily might only practice 10 minutes. But I love seeing Kyle, you know, you know, tapping out the beat like I used to and just see what, you know, seeing him, it's like you see the, the next generation interest in.

[Susan]

It with her and that's. That's so important as a father. That's a great bonding moment. Even though she'll bitch about it sometimes. But she's young yet.

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So.

[Kathy]

What is the hardest challenge you find about being a grandparent? Other than us keeping our mouth shut about discipline. What's the hardest thing you find about being a grandparent?

[Susan]

I don't think anything's hard except when I. Like you said, other than my children being too hard on them. And what's hard for me, the youngest ones, the 24 year olds. I don't know that I'll be here for their wedding.

[Kathy]

Oh, Susan.

[Susan]

They're four. Kat. What am I gonna.

[Kathy]

I got a two year old. I'm gonna be there for her wedding. I'm older than you are. Think positive, girlfriend. Put out the universe.

[Susan]

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[Susan]

I don't find anything hard except you're gonna laugh.

[Kathy]

You're gonna laugh when I say this. Okay, I. And I can't believe I'm admitting this. So my sister, who lives in Canada is the most creative person on the planet. Like she, when we went there this summer, she had made capes for the granddaughters and hair ribbons and she makes stuff out of egg cartons. I don't know where. I don't know where it comes. She is so creative. That's not who I am.

[Susan]

That's not me either.

[Kathy]

But, but for a challenge for me is trying when, when I babysit them, coming up with activities because I want my grandchildren to want to come and spend time with me. And I know that it's all my friends who have older grandchildren say, kathy, enjoy them young. Because when they get to be teenagers, the last thing they want to do is come to Kiki's house. So it is a challenge for me to come up with things when they're little, you know, you can put them in the stroller and we're going to go leaf hunting. Turtle hu. Look at the birds.

[Susan]

Take them to the park.

[Kathy]

I'm saying all those.

[Susan]

Take them to Walmart or the Dollar Store and let them pick out new things. Like the Stella the other day got press on fingernails and I have to come home and do it or polish their nails for girls.

[Kathy]

Yes, that kind of stuff. I'll do that. But I'm. I'm. I'm trying to. My grandmother was an experienced grandmother. I remember planting bulbs in the garden with her. So I'm constantly trying to come up with those things that my granddaughters will remember as opposed to taking them shopping. I want to have experiences, and it's a challenge.

[Susan]

I remember shopping, too, Cath.

[Kathy]

Well, your grandchildren. Well, mine are like, no, we dig in the dirt.

[Susan]

We do.

[Kathy]

We. That's a challenge for me and Toby.

[Susan]

Toby digs in the dirt with me, and they want to water the flowers. And Mimi, this one really needs it.

[Kathy]

Yeah, it's. But you know what? It's good. We're teaching. But we're teaching them that. That their place in community, that there's more important things than themselves.

[Susan]

IPad time. Like.

[Kathy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Susan]

I had her not too long ago for the day, and I remember asking her mother, is her iPad in there? Is it charged? She said, yes. We never got on it. We didn't have enough time.

[Kathy]

Wait a second. I don't let you let your. I do not. My. So my. My Lindley. Her mother. I sad to say, this Lindley is on the iPad all the time. She can go outside when not at her dad's house. No iPads. When she comes to my house, there is no tv. Unless, like, late at night. Well, not late at night, but, you know, after dinner, we might watch a half an hour something on Disney to get her settled for bed. But I am. That is. Technology is absolutely. No. When I have my granddaughter, they have enough.

[Susan]

When I'm cooking dinner and she's not just getting tired. And I'll let her sit with her iPad and put a movie on it for. Or on the tv, and we never even get to watch the whole thing. Yeah, but that's about the only time. Because we stay busy now for a rainy day. We color. We, you know, try to play a game. We dance. We put the music up.

[Kathy]

Before we. Before we leave this topic, I have to. I have to say this. One of the best things. I never thought I would say it. One of the best things about being a grandparent. They come and they go and they go. I love on them. We play. We have so much fun. Kiss, love. I mean, I'll do anything.

[Susan]

And then real nice.

[Kathy]

And then it's like, here you go, honey. Bye bye. Kiki loves you. Kiki Caesar. And we FaceTime.

[Susan]

See you next time. Blow kisses.

[Kathy]

Yeah, kisses. Exactly. I mean, I love them, but when I was in my 50s. You're gonna think I'm nuts. When I was in my 50s, I used to think about, you know, adopting a child I talked about and he looked like I was crazy. But I, I still have the energy, if you want to be honest, to raise a child. I'm just more selfish now. And there's other things I wanted, but I have to admit handing them back over is like, okay.

[Susan]

Yeah, I know.

[Kathy]

Bye. Love you. Okay, well, that is so much fun. Thank thank you to our listeners for joining us today. We hope you learned about grandparenting. Well, I don't know. You know what? I would love to hear your ideas. Please send me your ideas for craft ideas. Crafts. I need craft and they have to be really simple. Don't tell me to like get egg cartons and, you know, cut them with fringe scissors. Like keep brushing.

[Susan]

Oh yeah. Yes, ideas. Anyway, and make sure guys to follow us on Follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes and more conversations coming out every week that you don't want to miss.

[Kathy]

And make sure you submit your questions to us. Go to bachelor nation.com golden hour or DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy.

[Susan]

Hour and listen to Bachelor Happy Hours golden hour in the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcast guest.

[Kathy]

Until next time, have a good week.

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