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Hello everyone and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Rachel.
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And I'm Charity. And today we have my dear friend and Bachelor in Paradise alum Kylie Russell. Hi guys.
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I'm so excited to be here with my girls.
B
So happy to have you. It's been truly I feel like some time since we've had like a sit down podcast with you. So how are you? Let's just start there.
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It's truly been so long. Lots to unpack here but I'm excited to be back. I'm doing well. I'm in like a new era of my life and I'm excited to tell you guys all about it.
C
I'm so excited to unpack this era because I just have to say Kylie got on and she has the hair, the makeup, everything looks fantastic. I want to hear about this new era before we get into the new era. Okay. We gotta unpack a little bit of the old. Just a little. Yeah.
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Just a little. Yeah. I don't know. I guess I'm scared to talk about this because I've talked about it over and over again. It's been like my story for the past three years, ever since I left paradise. But I'm glad to finally close that chapter. I know there's like an elephant in the room even, and I are no longer together. And I think I'm okay with that, actually. I know I'm okay with that. We're just both two very different people who want two very different things in life. And we clearly tried for three years, no ill will towards him at all. But I think it's time to officially, like, close that chapter and move on and actually find my person.
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Mm.
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No. I'm so, like, happy for you. I'm so proud of you. Because obviously, I know, like, there's good parts of it, but there's also very much, like, hard parts. Like, doesn't matter who you with, how long you're with someone. But take us back to. Obviously the last time you were on this podcast, we kind of uncovered a lot of. Bit of a lot of you guys's relationship. And I want to know, and I'm sure our audience wants to know what. What made you decide that you wanted to, like, give it another go? Like, what signs were there that basically kind of like gave you, like, the push?
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Yeah. So I think for me, I am a lover girl I love so hard. And at the end of the day, Aven was my first ever love. And so I had moved to San Diego. He had become like my family here. And I just wanted that sense of home, being away from my home. And we rekindled everything, honestly, was like, from the. From the time we decided to get back together until now, unfortunately, everything was amazing. We moved in together. Life was truly starting to unravel. And I saw myself having a future with him, having babies, getting married, doing all the things. And then as we kind of progress and when you live with someone, it's definitely very eye opening. And we just realized we wanted different things. I'm a big family girl. I love the East Coast. And Avon has created a life for himself in San Diego. And I respect that because San Diego is truly such a beautiful place. But when I raise babies, I want to be close to my family, even if that's not technically Charlotte, just somewhere that's not like a five hour flight away. And that's not something that he was wanting, and that's a big life decision that we needed to agree on. And unfortunately, we just couldn't come to terms with that. And so there was obviously other things, but that was one of our main, kind of, like, you know, spots in the road where we couldn't figure it out. So, yeah, I just had to take the. I'm almost 30, which is crazy. I am 20, 28, not yet 29. But I just want things for my future, and I can't continue to waste time. So I need. I needed to step away and truly be able to put myself in a circumstance where I can find my person. So, yeah, it's sad. I wouldn't wish heartbreak on literally my worst enemy. I'm still. I feel like I still go to the grieving process. Last night, actually, I had a dream that I saw him out with another girl, and, like, I woke up kind of sad because I'm like, he was my person. So, yeah, it's. It's hard. It's something. It's been several months now. It's been almost six months, so it's been a while. But, you know, every day is different. It's all a part of the healing journey. And I'm just ready to move forward. Forward. I'm. I'm happy. I'm truly, truly happy. And I think this is the first time in a long time where I'm discovering who Kylie is, what she wants, and I'm starting to really love myself. And I love every aspect of that.
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I love that. That, like, makes my heart, like, smile. Kylie, like, I love hearing you say that. Like, that is, like, so huge and just, like, I can tell. Just, like, a step in the right direction. Truly.
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Thank you. No, I'm super excited, obviously terrified, because having to start completely over, I don't want to do that. The dating scene. I have not dated, like, outside of a reality TV scenario in three years. I don't even know what that looks like. I don't know how to put myself out there, but I'm like, you'll be fine.
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You'll be absolutely. I think as soon as people just get word that you're single, because I think I really knew. Yeah, your inbox is going to be flooded.
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Okay. That's what I'm saying, because I'm like. Is my Instagram giving, like, taken? Because it's been a while since I got, like, I. You know, I get the dms, but, like, I need a cute, like, crush. And it's been a while. Slide in my DMs that I actually like. So I'm like, boys, hello. Like, I'm trying to post like hot photos now, like let them know back at it.
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I think a lot of people, I mean, even me, we watched you, I mean, fall in love in paradise. And then it kind of has been this on again, off again where people weren't sure if you were taken. So now knowing you're single, what are you going to take from your relationship with Aven that you want in a new relationship? Like, what are the positives about the relationship?
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Yeah, there are so many positives. I think for a long time I was always scared that I was always going to be looking for the next best thing in relationships. Prior to even, I was always scared to settle down because I'm like, okay, what if there's someone else out there that I would like more? And with like Justin Bieber himself could have walked in the door, been like, kylie, I want you. And I'm like, no, respectfully, even as my man, I want to stay with him. It made me realize that, like, when I find my person, I'm going to truly love them and I'm going to want no one else but them. So there are people out there that can provide that for me and I am going to be able to settle down one day. I also think just like I have so much to give and offer in a relationship and I truly learned relationship with Aven. Like, I am a good girlfriend. Like I go over and beyond when it comes to the birthdays, the holidays, and I just want want my partner to truly feel so loved and so cared for. So I just, I know I have a lot of love to give and I'm ready to give that to somebody.
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So, like when you talk about obviously discovering yourself and like you're like realizing and seeing a lot of that right now, obviously in your relationship with Avon, was there parts that obviously were difficult to navigate with him, but in those moments, were you able to see then like, things about yourself that you were like? Like, I know that this is like true to my core versus like this is Aven and we aren't aligning here. Like, what are those some of those things, like, look like for you guys?
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Yeah, it definitely made me realize some non negotiables. I do feel like when you love someone, a place is more of a, like a home is more of a person rather than a place. And I kept trying to tell myself that, but when I would go home, I would have major FOMO because my family is so close to one another. And I just like, want to be able to experience that with my family. Like I said before meeting Aven and before moving to San Diego, I used to be like, okay, I'm only staying in Charlotte. Like Charlotte or bust. Now that I've experienced other things, I've experienced the west coast. I don't necessarily have to move to Charlotte, but I just want to be somewhere closer where it's more convenient to get to my family when I do have my own family. So I think a non negotiable that I learned within this relationship is there has to be some type of compromise on our living situation. Because I just don't think it's simply going to work if someone is so dead set living so far away from the east coast. So as much as I was like, committed to San Diego, I do feel like a breath of fresh air because now I'm like, okay, I don't have to live here forever. I can enjoy it now. But then when I'm ready to start settling down, I can move back closer to my family.
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I'm like, does this mean that you're coming back to Charlotte? Like, I did look at some homes. So let me know.
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I mean, we've been talking about this forever. I will gladly. We can raise our babies together.
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No, literally, next door.
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Cute friend or something. Because in order for us to get there, I need to listen.
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I know a few in Charlotte, but I'm like, we, the world is your oyster now. So don't you worry.
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Truly.
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Don't have to add.
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Kylie, are you actively dating or have you been, like, on the scene a little bit? It's been six months.
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Yeah. So actively dating would be a stretch. I recently downloaded a dating app. Never done that before. Trying to navigate that, which is terrifying.
C
Which one did you download?
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Ariah.
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Perfect. You're gonna find your husband in like three months.
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Oh, my God, I hope so. I haven't, like, gone on any dates. I haven't kissed any other men, so I'm definitely like a rookie when it comes to this. I think I truly forgot how to, like, flirt because it's been so long. I think I got it. But like, I'm just like, okay, I don't want to. It's this, this balance of, like, I don't want to come across, like, too strong. I don't want to act too mysterious. Like, I need to start reading books, listen to some podcasts because it's been a while since I've been out in the field.
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I feel like that's Very common, though, because I'm, like, I always think about, like, myself when I was, like, transitioning out of, like, okay, I haven't dated. I haven't been on the dating scene. And, like, it's very common, like, what you're explaining. I feel like there is no, like, timeline of, like, when you're supposed to or how you're supposed to act. Like, it just comes naturally because your body will, like, like, kind of send signs of, like, okay, I'm ready for this. Or, like, I should, like, you know, maybe slow down here. Like, I'm anticipating or feeling a little anxious about this. So I feel like you'll know. But, like, Kylie, when I say, like, I can't wait to really be like, all right, so here's my girl. She's single. Like, she needs a date to my wedding.
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So, like, anyone listening, please? Charity's wedding is coming up really soon. I am kind of freaking out because I need a plus one. I can't, like, bring my mom to this. So if you hear that. Nice. In a suit. And you would like to come with me, please?
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And you're fine. Like, I mean, you do have some requirements, so, like, to be fun, gorgeous, good time, all the above immediately, literally. Wait, can we. Can I make a request for who I want you to come to my wedding with?
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I'm kind of scared, but don't be scared.
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What if we. What if I. No, like, what if I reached out to Shane? I feel like. I feel like you should bring Shane. And Shane from Taylor season is who I'm referring to. Everybody obviously single, if I'm allowed to say that clearly.
C
Gorgeous. If we're allowed to say that. He talked to Charity. Charity already has the.
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Yeah, we had. We bonded at Stagecoach. Very fun personality. I mean, there's no wrongs. He would know a lot of people at the wedding, so it's like a win win situation. I don't extend those invitations out because I'm like, you need to pass the test to come to my party. Hello.
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Okay. Well, if you approve. I trust you with my life, Charity. Obviously, I've never met him. We do follow each other on Instagram, and from what I can see, like, from the outside, he looks really good. Obviously, there's a lot of things that we got to figure out. Make sure he checks out all of the boxes, but I wouldn't be opposed to that.
C
I love when hot people date hot people, and I think this would truly be my dream. And on top of it, like you said, going back to the dating world, it's daunting coming from me. I feel like when you're on the Bachelor, when you start dating again, you're like, okay, so what are your plans? Do you want a family? Like, you're coming out the gate. So hot. And he is also from the bachelor world, so it's kind of.
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Kind of perfect.
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Works. I love this.
A
Like, I'm very excited. Like, I said I would not be opposed, but I guess we got to see if Shane's on board with this.
B
Okay, well, listen, I'll get to work. Don't you worry about the job will get done.
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Some good words for me. Charity.
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Absolutely.
C
What are some other qualities that you're really looking for moving forward past this last relationship?
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Yeah, so I've always been someone who is very faithful. Grew up in, like, a Christian household, went to Christian school, but recently I got baptized, and I've truly become, like, on fire for God and Jesus. So someone who kind of shares similar values into that. I think it's really important. And it's hard if we come from different backgrounds when it comes to our faith and religion to build a family and to build a foundation on that. So someone who shares those values and then someone who's very, like, ambitious and motivated. For me, my career is everything. I recently went back school to get my doctorate, so I'm doing all of the things.
C
Kylie. So excited.
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Yeah.
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Doctor. So huge.
B
Wait. Oh, my God. I'm like, we can't, like, gloss over.
C
That's amazing, Kylie.
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Thanks, guys. I'm getting my doctorate in midwifery, so I get to deliver all of the babies in about two years. I'm still in the thick of everything,
B
so can I request you as my worst.
C
She delivers all the bachelor babies from here out.
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No. Literally, no. So I'm doing all of the things, trying to further my income, further my career, and I just want someone who is as goal and oriented as I am. So build an empire with all the cute babies, a nice little. Do all the things together. So, you know, the bare minimum at this point, but someone who is willing to go above and beyond for me,
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honestly, I can't get over there. Yeah, no, I can't either. I'm like, it is a bare minimum, but, you know, it's. You'd be surprised how hard it is to come across like, it's like, what? Like, what's going on?
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No. And I feel like I. I mean, I'm definitely not someone to toot my own horn, because we all know that me and my self confidence struggle a little. Bit. But I do feel like I have so much to offer to someone when it comes to just, like, my. My character, the. The things that I'm willing to give and the love I have to share and then all, like, kind of my resume, like, what I'm building for myself and what I hope and dream have. So I think I'm like, I know I'm a. So I'm just waiting on the right guy to realize that and want to, like, you know, be my husband.
C
This is, like, hurting my heart.
B
No, no, because I'm like, you literally are like. You're perfect in person and on paper. So I'm like, I've been in.
A
I have, like, franchise.
B
How would it. How would you say, dating? Or you haven't been dating in San Diego, but, like, is that something that you're like, okay, since you're there, like, I'm willing to explore, or does it. It scare you from what you've seen, maybe from your other friends? Just the face is telling me, yeah,
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I am a little jaded because the term Peter Pan is definitely tried and true. Being from the south, everyone gets kind of married and settled down, like, 24, 25ish. Here they're in, like, their 40s. They're like, oh, no. Like, I still have plenty of time. Oh, like, we actually don't, like, come on, we gotta start making moves to, like, you know, building something. I'm not gonna say, like, never say. I'm definitely going to try to put myself out here. I think it's hot, girl summer, so I'll put all my eggs in one basket immediately. But I think towards the end of the summer, I think I'm going to take this time for myself. And then as the summer ends, just kind of see what's out there for me. But I am scared because these Peter Pans, they'll bamboozle you for sure.
B
No, and that's the thing. It's like, I feel like my one, like, one dating advice that I always share, it's like. Like, you know me, Kylie. I'm like, ask those. Ask the hard.
C
Hard.
B
They're not even hard questions, but ask them, like, literally up front. Because I'm like, what you're not gonna do is now waste another, like, eight to 12 months of my life. And we're not, you know, we're in the same spot. Nothing's happening. It's like, you need to know these things, like, early on, because that's exactly what happens is, like, oh, they just think you're along for the ride and it's like, I am. But no.
A
Yeah. No. Respectfully, I want the real deal. I think I. I'm at the point in my life where I'm Mary and dating to find.
B
Yeah.
A
Who is 100 ready to settle down. I don't have time to waste. So if you're out here playing games, please respectfully, come nowhere near me.
B
Hello.
A
Yeah, Hello. I'm excited. Like, truly, I feel like the happiest I've been in a really, really long time. I'm enjoying Diego. I have so many friends now. I'm booked and busy. Like, I truly am living my best life. And I think it took, like, cutting that umbilical cord off to, like, be where I am. But even though it's hard, like, I'm. I'm so excited for what's to come.
C
I have to ask, because your glow up, like we said, is so iconic. Like, you are just radiating, like, the best energy. But obviously, like, what you went through was really hard. Three years of someone that you thought you'd be with. What was that process like when you were getting over the breakup and how you came to, like, this energy now?
B
Right.
A
So I think towards. Especially towards the end of my relationship, it became very comfortable and complacent. It was just easier to be with him because that means I didn't have to start over. So when I came to the terms and I thought of all the things that we struggled with and things that we were never coming to terms with, I told myself, okay, this isn't your person.
C
Simply.
A
I mean, as hard as that is to say, like, he just wasn't my person. And I stuck around for so long hoping things would change, and it simply didn't. So it was just very, like, eye opening and made me realize that, like, okay, it's time to kind of stand up, because I was sitting down for so long, stand up and just realize that, like, there is someone out there that's going to check all your boxes. You can't force someone into that. And as. As hard as it is, as sad as it is, like, put one foot forward and you got this. Like, you're gonna be okay. You've survived your toughest days already. Like, you're going to continue to survive this. And I also do think my family and my friends are so supportive. I wouldn't with a side of Lexapro and my family and my friends, it's has allowed me to get through this, but just. I think just being hopeful for the future has allowed me kind of enter my glow up era.
B
I love this. And speaking of friends, obviously, like, season 27, the most elite. I'm so sorry. The best of the best.
A
Yes.
B
How has it been, obviously, with, like, still having most of us, like, in your circle rooting for you, supporting you, like, how has that been for you?
A
Yeah. Although my bachelor experience didn't technically bring me a love that lasted forever, it brought me friends that I will cherish for the rest of my life. I'm lucky because even some of my friends, they literally live in my back door now just for like two minute walking distance. So we hang out all the time. We go to church together. I have you Charity, who I. I don't get to see as often, but when we do see each other, we just pick up like. Like we had been seeing each other every single day. So that's one of the things that I will forever cherish and thank this franchise for because I. It was. It's hard making girlfriends, especially in your. And so having a set of friends who kind of have been in the same experiences, who have the same morals, the same values, the same beliefs in your circle is something that I will always be grateful for. So thank you, bachelor. I know it didn't bring me like that love story, but it brought me the love story with friends that. That I'll have forever.
C
I love to cry and I feel like it did.
B
Kylie is so happy.
A
Everything to me.
B
Yeah.
A
If we could rewind back to my first ever podcast with you guys to now. I'm a completely different person in the best way. I've grown so much and like, my confidence and my ability to even speak, like, my experiences. I've traveled so much. I'm living across the country and if you would have told me back then that I would have moved from Charlotte, I'm like, in the best way has truly changed my life and just forever grateful for the experiences that it gave me.
B
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C
I love CeraVe. My dermatologist recommended it to me years ago and it works incredible on my skin. I love that the AM facial moisturizing lotion has SPF in it so I don't have to add an extra step to my routine.
B
I also love the PM Moisturizing lotion to help my skin recover and be restored at night. If you're looking to be hydrated all day, check out CeraVe.
C
It's developed with dermatologists and is fragrance free, paraben free and won't clog your pores.
B
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Okay, well speaking of, no more Bachelor. Is there a chance for maybe reality TV again? If we're like okay, enough with the real life dating, you know how we we just hop hop hop hop, right?
A
Well, I mean, never say never. I do know paradise is not until next year. I'm hoping by that point I will have found a man. But if I find myself still single, then I did live my best life on the beach. It's an experience that I wish I could always go back to. So if I'm single and paradise is calling, I'll dance. Definitely
B
heard here.
C
I was gonna say because I Was on the beach with you. And it was like, the first couple days, literally everyone, like, Kylie's being pulled left and right, and then even came in Locke down, which we loved. You got to have that, like, love story on the beach. The mom and dad. I would love to see you go back to paradise and date every single guy.
B
I want you to be like, yes.
C
Like, you're always grabbing guys.
A
I love the confidence, but I do feel like I think it's hard. I mean, I feel like if I went back a second time, I would kind of be like, old news, because, you know, I've been there, done that. So I was like, I want to,
C
like, this screen and be like, I was there with you on the beach. Beach. The way every man that came down would have taken you on the date if Avon left.
A
But you're so sweet. That's not necessarily true, but.
C
Right.
A
We're like, no, no. Okay. We're working on confidence. We're working on the confidence. But I know paradise was one of the best experiences. I was surrounded by all my best friends. I did fall in love. So to have that for a second time and maybe have a second opportunity, like, it would be something that I would be so grateful for.
B
So would there be anything that. Sorry. Would there be anything that, like, would scare you about going back the second time besides, like, being in your. In your words, old news? That's not true.
C
There's AC now, Kylie. Yeah. No sand in the beds. No crabs in the shower.
A
Thank God. No mosquito. Well, I don't know if there's mosquitoes. Like, I was one big mosquito bite when I was, like, it was bad.
C
We were suffering there, but having the best time, but living our best life.
A
Literally things that I would be scared about. I mean, I do worry because I was lucky with Aven, in a sense, because I do truly feel like he went down there to find love. I mean, we lasted for three years, but when it comes to reality TV Monday, there's a stigma of, like, are they there to actually settle down and to, like, find the person, or are they there for, like, 10 more Instagram followers? So I think I'm at the point, like, I told you guys, I'm at the point where I'm ready to, like, find the real deal and settle down. So if we're going out there so you can find a tripod in a dream, like, respectfully, like, but my. I just started twitching respectfully, like, I'm not your girl. So I think that would be the only thing about, like, are these Men who are going down there actually there for the right reasons, but if they claim to be and I can find my husband, then, yeah, I'm all for it. But period, scary thing.
B
Is there anything that you would change about Paradise? Obviously, we've seen, like, it be revamped last year. Was there anything that you were like, okay, I love this. Obviously, the AC That's a given. But, like, what about the format that you, like, didn't like? What would you, like, do better to, like, enhance your experience?
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Okay. So what I thought about this season of paradise is there really wasn't a lot of drama. I mean, there was some here and there, but I truly felt like it was focused on love, relationships, and finding connections. And then you see kind of with that being the whole goal and the idea behind the show, you see all of these couples flourishing in the outside world, like Andrew and Alex, Jess and Spencer. Like, they truly are living their best life. So I think going down there and focusing truly on the connections is something that I would be excited for. And then Kat kind of gave me some insider tea that you get to spend more time with your connection, maybe even sleep in the room with them. So, like, you just have more time to be like, okay, this is my person. We're connecting on X, y, and Z. And, like, I can see a future outside of him. So just more time with your partner and more intimate moments. I think that will be a game changer for. For me going back, period.
C
I have to ask, too. Me and Charity have had the honor to interview so many of Taylor's men, and they're all so fantastic. But outside of Taylor's guys, is there anyone that you would hypothetically love to see down at the beach?
A
Oh, my gosh. I, like, I feel like our nation is booed up like, Truly.
C
That's true.
A
I feel like a lot of the guys.
B
Is that the case?
A
I don't know. Can we spitball some names here? Because, like, I'm trying to think. Not Taylor.
C
I'm trying to think who I would love you with.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah. Who I would love you with versus, like, who's just single?
A
This is. Okay, this is a twist of events, and I need to speak to Cat about this because. Okay. I'm not pulling, like, a summer house. Like, no, we're not getting in the correct community. But I always thought John Henry was so cute and so just, like, pure and wholesome. We're both from North Carolina. We're both have, like, our country roots. Roots. But, I mean, that was Cat's man, I don't really know, considers that to even be her man at this point.
C
I was gonna say, if we were asking, I don't even think he would be top three. No offense. I love John Henry.
B
Right.
C
Was there a connection during our season of paradise that was like, that we
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didn't like, did I miss it? Because I was like, that's the last question. I thought you were about to say no.
A
There was no connection at all. I just remember whenever he came down on the beach, we had like. Like a small conversation and he kept saying, like, oh, yeah, my family really wants me to be with you. Like, they think that we would be a good match. Oh, like, I'm already getting the family approval. I love this.
B
Hello.
A
So, yeah, definitely not my typical type and a little different than what I would normally go for, but he just seems like a sweetie boy. But we would have Cat because, like, I'm a girls girl through and through, and I just like, if that would even bother her in the slightest. I like, obviously, no way. But I do think he's so. He's so handsome. So. Yeah.
C
And I have another misconnection from, like, my observations being down on the beach with you. Blake boy is single.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
Kylie, if I do recall, you ran up to the car,
A
but question mark there.
B
But wouldn't that be Jeff us?
C
Yeah. So it's like, we have Cat and Jess here. This was the problem of that season of paradise.
A
Like, truly, we were all close and no one wanted to step on each other's toes, which I respect. Blake and I like, it was very friendly. I don't know why. Like, he was always someone that I would go to for advice. He's obviously been there, done that. I do think Blake is a cutie boy as well, and I do find his career very interesting.
C
Think.
A
But, yeah, I would have to have a conversation with Jess. But, yeah, there was always this, like, flirtatious, like, some section. That's what I thought.
B
Here, please expand more. I'm like, did I. I not.
C
I was at the beach having just. I was drinking my champagne and watching Rachel.
A
That's what I did. I've never told anyone this, but when I got the first date card, the first night, I really wanted to take Blake, but, like, in my eyes, like, he's like a bachelor legend. Like, oh, it's Blake Moines. So. And I'm just like, Kylie. So I'm like, okay, is what he. He doesn't even know who I am. Is he going to think this is weird that I just randomly am taking him and at that point even really had a conversation. So it just felt very random to mention him. But then I'm like, okay, if I would have taken him on that date, like, what would my. My experience have looked like there? So I always have that what if in the back of my brain, especially with the things that kind of transpired after that. But I do think everything happens for a reason. At the end of the day, we all know how obsessed I was with Aven. And like I said, Justin Bieber could have come down on that beach and I probably would have still picked Aven. So I don't know. I might need to have two conversations with Kat and Jess just to see. But everything now.
C
Well, let's get him on the podcast right now.
B
I'm gonna throw one. I need to throw one wild car, though. Yeah, one wild car.
A
Scared.
B
Kylie's probably gonna be like, no way. What about Justin?
A
Justin Glaze. I just have good friends with Suit. Like, yeah, I really respect her. And like with Jess and Kat, like, their relationships with Blake and John Henry, they were just very like, they lasted like 20 seconds. At the end of the day, like, it is what it is. Susie and Justin, like, they were. It's kind of. It reminds me of even. And I like the back and forth. Loved each other. So that would be hard because I just have a lot of respect for Susie and I think Justin is a great guy. But I like with Blake and John Henry, it's a little different with. Yeah was a full blown, like, they loved each other.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah, I think I'll pass on that one.
C
Have you, like discussed this with Susie? Okay, guys, that's all for part one with Kylie and we are just getting started. So part two will be out tomorrow and we will see you all soon.
A
Bye.
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Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour
Hosts: Charity Lawson & Rachel Recchia
Guest: Kylee Russell
Date: June 23, 2026
This episode brings Bachelor in Paradise alum Kylee Russell back to "Bachelor Happy Hour" for a candid, heartfelt, and often hilarious conversation with hosts Charity and Rachel. Fresh off a major relationship transition, Kylee opens up about her breakup with Aven, her healing journey, entering a "new era," and navigating the daunting post-Bachelor dating world. The discussion ranges from self-love to non-negotiables, the pitfalls of Peter Pan types in San Diego, and even some Bachelor Nation matchmaking mayhem.
“We’re just both two very different people who want two very different things in life… I think it’s time to officially, like, close that chapter and move on and actually find my person.” — Kylee (05:00)
Knowing What She Wants: Kylee emphasizes lessons learned—she is a faithful and loving partner and now knows her non-negotiables, especially regarding proximity to family (09:50–12:28).
Value Alignment: She seeks someone with shared faith (having recently been baptized), ambition, and the desire to build a life together (22:00–23:02).
“Someone who shares those values and then someone who’s very ambitious and motivated… My career is everything. I recently went back to school to get my doctorate.” — Kylee (22:00)
Back to School: Kylee is pursuing her doctorate in midwifery, planning to deliver babies—and jokes about being the Bachelor midwife for franchise babies (22:41–23:02).
Confidence and Self-Discovery: The conversation reflects Kylee’s growing confidence and excitement for what’s next, crediting supportive friends, family, and a bit of Lexapro for her glow-up (27:00–28:16).
“If we could rewind back to my first ever podcast with you guys to now, I’m a completely different person in the best way.” — Kylee (29:39)
Supportive Bachelor Family: She treasures the lasting friendships gained from “The Bachelor,” noting that even if she didn’t leave with lasting romantic love, the friendships are “the love story” she’ll cherish (28:37–29:33).
Paradise Possibilities: Kylee says she’d be open—but hopes to be off the market before the next season. She's candid about wanting to avoid men seeking only Instagram followers, emphasizing the importance of authenticity (35:24–36:57, 37:24).
Ideal Qualities in a Partner: She’s looking for someone “ready to settle down,” with no time for “Peter Pan” types (24:37–26:06).
“If you’re out here playing games, please, respectfully, come nowhere near me.” — Kylee (26:06)
“I love when hot people date hot people, and I think this would truly be my dream.” — Rachel (21:12) “If they claim to be [there for the right reasons] and I can find my husband, then, yeah, I’m all for it. But period, scary thing.” — Kylee (37:24)
“I’m happy. I’m truly, truly happy. And I think this is the first time in a long time where I’m discovering who Kylie is, what she wants, and I’m starting to really love myself.” — Kylee (08:27)
“I haven’t kissed any other men, so I’m definitely like a rookie when it comes to this… I think I forgot how to flirt because it’s been so long.” — Kylee (13:22)
“I know I have a lot of love to give and I’m ready to give that to somebody.” — Kylee (10:52)
“There has to be some type of compromise on our living situation… I can enjoy [San Diego] now, but then when I’m ready to start settling down, I can move back closer to my family.” — Kylee (12:10)
“Thanks, guys. I’m getting my doctorate in midwifery, so I get to deliver all of the babies in about two years.” — Kylee (22:45)
“If I’m single and paradise is calling, I’ll dance. Definitely.” — Kylee (35:47)
This episode is an honest, relatable deep dive into heartbreak, healing, and hope—peppered with Bachelor Nation gossip and supportive female friendship. Kylee shines with vulnerability and self-assurance as she enters a bold new chapter, with Charity and Rachel cheering her on (and plotting her next Bachelor date). Whether you’re a Kylee fan, looking for modern dating wisdom, or in it for the franchise tea, this episode delivers warmth, laughs, and plenty to look forward to in Part 2.
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