Bachelor Happy Hour — "Litia Garr: Inside the Lives of Mormon Wives"

Date: February 5, 2026
Hosts: Charity Lawson & Rachel Recchia
Guest: Latia Garr

Episode Overview

On this episode of the official Bachelor Nation podcast, hosts Charity and Rachel sit down for a wide-ranging, honest, and layered conversation with Latia Garr, from Grant’s season. Topics include reflecting on her Bachelor experience, navigating public perception and controversy post-show, her relationships (both platonic and romantic), her podcasting journey, deep-dives into Bachelor Nation dynamics, and teasers about the "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives" circle. Latia is open and candid, bringing humor, warmth, and maturity in discussing personal change, friendships, and her hopes for what’s next.

1. Reunion, Friendship Origins, and Catching Up

Timestamps: 00:46 – 03:06

• Charity and Latia reminisce about their first meeting during a Montana trip for Jess's birthday with Zach’s season girls.
• Latia shares how her friendship with Katie (Bigger) blossomed from that experience.

  “All the girls from Zach season were on that Montana trip for Jess’s birthday, and so I got to meet Charity.” — Latia (02:16)

• Latia expresses excitement to reconnect and reflects on how fast a year has passed since her season.

2. Processing Bachelor Aftermath & Ongoing Public Discourse

Timestamps: 03:39 – 08:47

• The hosts bring up how Grant’s season continues to be a hot topic, and Rachel references Juliana’s recent interview and its discussions around Fantasy Suites and Latia’s comments.
• Latia clarifies her position:

  “I feel bad if she thinks she doesn’t like something that I said because I don’t mean any disrespect... I know that it’s sensitive, obviously.” — Latia (04:53)

• They discuss evolving feelings about their seasons, highlighting how time and distance bring new perspectives and healing—even as things from their season keep resurfacing publicly.
• Latia notes:

  “Different things hit you sideways, like, at different times too. I think, like, sometimes... I’ll see a clip. And I’m like, oh, yeah. I didn’t like that. I wish I would have said that different...” — Latia (06:52)

3. The Vulnerability of Public Scrutiny & Social Media Lives

Timestamps: 08:49 – 11:25

• The group discusses the phenomenon of public Instagram Lives and comment sections, especially Grant’s frequent engagement with the public.
• Charity muses about the pressures of rebranding in the wake of controversy, noting the thin line these social media interactions tread.
• Latia reflects on feeling “drinking from a firehose” during and after her season, remarking on the onslaught of speculation and scrutiny—especially unique for a Black Bachelor lead and contestants.

  “I got extra scrutiny for that reason... like, my reaction and the breakup and stuff. I look at the reaction the world had... through that lens now.” — Latia (10:30)

4. Navigating Racial Dynamics & Bias on Reality TV

Timestamps: 11:26 – 13:09

• Charity and Latia discuss the additional pressures and biases faced as leads or contestants of color on the franchise.

  “You almost kind of have to walk this line... of doing things almost, like, so perfect that you can’t make a mistake.” — Charity (12:28)

• Both express empathy for Grant but also emphasize the importance of self-protection and not over-engaging with online negativity.

5. The Role of Religion in Relationships & The Changing Narrative

Timestamps: 13:18 – 18:36

• Rachel asks about how religion factored into the end of Latia and Grant’s relationship—addressing conflicting public explanations from Grant.
• Latia shares:

  “Anytime I ever brought it up, he was like, no, it’s not an issue. What do you mean? No, that’s totally fine. No.” — Latia (15:21)

• She reflects on the disappointment that honest discussions about serious matters didn’t happen, acknowledging both the surreal demands of the show and how explanations sometimes shift post-filming.
• Charity and Latia agree on granting each other grace:

  “He’s not a special kind of villain because he says things to women and then changes his mind. I think that happens every day.” — Latia (18:47)

6. Burying the Hatchet & Social Media Spats

Timestamps: 20:29 – 22:23

• Latia describes a recent conversation with Grant intended to “bury the hatchet” and agree not to drag their situation online any further.
• Rachel inquires about Chase (Latia’s podcast co-host) being protective in Grant’s comment sections; Latia confirms he’s “a vigilante” but it’s all in defense and friendship.

7. Latia’s Circle: Friendships with Mormon Wives & Podcasting

Timestamps: 22:23 – 26:48

• Latia details her close friendships with Miranda and Layla from "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives," sharing how their relationships grew organically through mutual friends and co-parenting dynamics.
• Rachel and Charity tease a possible appearance for Latia on "Secret Lives," but Latia laughs:

  “I will tell you that they do not need me. They’re doing, like, great over there. They have enough going on.” — Latia (23:32)

• The trio also touches on the upcoming season with Taylor and possible spoilers (which Latia dodges).

8. Bachelor and Bachelorette Pressures & The Dynamic of a New Lead

Timestamps: 25:00 – 26:48

• The discussion shifts to Taylor as the new lead—her unpredictability, honesty, and “marching to the beat of her own drum.”
• Latia is excited:

  “She will do things her way that feel right to her... very honest... makes really entertaining TV.” — Latia (26:28)

9. Life After Reality TV: Podcasting & Personal Growth

Timestamps: 26:48 – 29:37

• Latia explains her move toward podcasting with Chase, wanting to showcase more of her personality outside her Bachelor “edit.”

  “I’m anxious to not just be the come on now girl.... it’s not the entirety of who I am. I feel like I have other things to say.” — Latia (27:00)

• She says the podcast will explore dating, being single, social life, and deep conversations—often with entertaining disagreements.

10. Friendship With Chase: From Skepticism to Podcast Partners

Timestamps: 29:36 – 32:10

• Latia admits to not being initially fond of Chase and laughs about their strong personalities and mutual growth.
• She praises Chase’s (and Miranda’s) role in helping her become more social post-show and describes his likable yet confrontational reputation.

11. Utah Dating Scene & Openness to Bachelor in Paradise

Timestamps: 33:12 – 36:46

• Rachel and Charity ask about Utah’s dating pool.

  “It’s like fishing in a very shallow puddle. It’s just everybody knows everybody and there’s no... no new blood, really.” — Latia (34:10)

• Latia is open to Bachelor in Paradise, but only depending on “who’s there—there may be some cuties.”
• They discuss which Bachelor alumni they'd love to see in Paradise, highlighting Seraphina.

12. Going Public With Dating & Navigating (Unwanted) Attention

Timestamps: 38:03 – 44:43

• Latia talks about the challenge of her private life becoming public, especially as details are sometimes shared by others rather than herself.

  “Online is never really where anything gets resolved. It typically just, like, makes things worse... there’s just, like, not a ton of allowance for nuance.” — Latia (40:14)

• Charity shares her own guarded approach toward protecting friends and family from excessive public scrutiny.

13. Setting Boundaries, Social Media Drama, and Owning Your Story

Timestamps: 44:43 – 49:09

• The group unpacks the difference between resolving issues privately versus fueling public drama online.
• Latia sums up her stance:

  “If I’m a bad guy in your book, that’s totally fine. It’s a frequency... If you just want a forum to share your experience, that’s great. I’ll use my forum to talk about mine.” — Latia (47:33, 47:48)

• She stresses the importance of kindness, respect, and not fueling hate, even as she maintains her readiness to speak her truth when it’s made public by others.

14. Wrapping Up: Wisdom, Podcast Plans, and a Look Ahead

Timestamps: 49:14 – 51:19

• Charity and Rachel praise Latia’s maturity and self-awareness.
• Latia reflects on learning from both the hosts—acknowledging how watching past Bachelor seasons shaped her approach to being blindsided by on-camera relationships.
• Latia teases her podcast “Lonely Friends,” which will resume in March with pop-culture recaps, reader submissions, and deeper life discussions.

Notable Quotes

• Latia on reality TV relationships:
  “He’s not a special kind of villain because he says things to women and then changes his mind. I think that happens every day. His just happened to play out on an entire season that was his own.” (18:47)

• Charity on pressures as a lead of color:
  “You almost kind of have to walk this line... of doing things almost, like, so perfect that you can’t make a mistake.” (12:28)

• Latia on social-media drama:
  “Resolving it is like, call me on the phone. But when you know you’re popping up in TikTok comment sections, like, that... that’s none of my business.” (44:14)

• Latia on handling public perception:
  “I’m just not one to dedicate time and energy to people that are committed to misunderstanding me. If I’m a bad guy in your book, that’s totally fine.” (47:33)

Episode Highlights & Memorable Moments

• The authentic reflection on what it’s like to be in the Bachelor franchise aftermath—especially where personal boundaries, race, and identity intersect.
• Latia’s approach to online rumors: “No one really ever asks for my opinion... So if you just want a forum to share your experience, that’s great. I’ll use my forum to talk about mine.” (47:48)
• Laugh-out-loud moments about the Utah dating pool being “a very shallow puddle,” and friendly teasing regarding who would do well on Paradise.
• Hints at future appearances for Latia’s circle on both “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” and “Bachelor in Paradise.”

Closing & What’s Next

• Latia is excited to expand her voice through the “Lonely Friends” podcast, returning in March.
• She teases potential appearances at Coachella, Stagecoach, and maybe more in the Bachelor/BravoVerse.
• Charity and Rachel express gratitude for Latia’s honesty and hope to join her on her podcast soon.

For listeners, this episode offers a mature, unfiltered, and insightful window into the real aftermath of dating on television, the pressures of public life, and the power of supportive friendships. Latia’s candor and grounded perspective set an example for navigating drama—and life after reality TV—with humor, introspection, and grace.