‘Love on the Spectrum’s’ Madison Marilla: Our Bachelor Nation Princess! | Happy Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour Podcast Summary

Episode: ‘Love on the Spectrum’s’ Madison Marilla: Our Bachelor Nation Princess!

Date: May 5, 2026
Hosts: Rachel Recchia & Charity Lawson
Guest: Madison Marilla (Love on the Spectrum)

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Episode Overview

This joyful episode of Bachelor Happy Hour welcomes Madison Marilla, star of Netflix’s "Love on the Spectrum" and a self-proclaimed Bachelor Nation superfan. Hosts Rachel Recchia and Charity Lawson dive into Madison’s recent engagement, her lifelong love for the Bachelor franchise, autism acceptance, her passions, and her vast encyclopedic knowledge of all things Bachelor Nation. The conversation is warm, candid, and full of laughter, sprinkled with personal anecdotes, wedding dreams, and some serious fan trivia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meeting Madison: Engagement Celebration

• Madison shares her excitement about her recent engagement to her “cowboy sweetheart,” Tyler, and reveals the challenge of keeping it a secret for nine months until Netflix aired the season.

  • “I'm also a Bachelor Nation super fan, too.” (Madison, 03:14)
  • “We got engaged on our anniversary, July 15th. And so we've had to keep it a secret for nine months.” (Madison, 04:58)

• Wedding Dress Dreams

  • Madison is thrilled about starting wedding planning, and especially the hunt for the perfect princess ball gown.
  • “I'm a big ball. I really want a princess ball gown. Lots of bling, lots of tulle.” (Madison, 05:40)
  • She reveals that Randy Fenoli from "Say Yes to the Dress" reached out and they may film her dress shopping experience. (Madison, 06:02-06:14)

2. Engagement Details & Relationship Balance

• How Madison & Tyler Compliment Each Other

  • Madison describes herself as a planner, while Tyler is spontaneous and “even-keeled”—a dynamic that brings balance to their relationship.
  • “I'm a planner and he's very spontaneous and when I get all anxious and whipped up, he is very go with the flow and very even keeled.” (Madison, 07:36)

• Shared Interests and Wedding Song Plans

  • Both love country music, amusement parks, and church.
  • Tyler is musically talented and has written songs about Madison; they plan to dance to one of his songs at the wedding. (Madison, 08:17-08:40)

3. Watching Her Engagement on TV

• Emotional Experience
  • Watching her engagement play out on TV was emotional, especially seeing the surprise visit from friends and family at their party.
  • “He took me back to the place where we had our very first date, which was very special.” (Madison, 09:07)
  • “My aide Megan, from childhood, flew from California to Florida to surprise me, which was very special.” (Madison, 09:29)

4. Life in Florida & Disney Adventures

• Madison enjoys living in Plant City, five minutes from Tyler, and their regular church and Busch Gardens dates.

  • “Just being five minutes away from Tyler. We go to church together every Sunday.” (Madison, 10:47)

• Tyler surprised her with a trip to Disney World, and Madison planned matching princess outfits while Tyler remained true to his cowboy style. (Madison, 11:26)

• Celebrating Childhood Loves

  • Favorite princess is Belle; favorite park is Magic Kingdom/Fantasyland; favorite ride is the Snow White coaster.
  • “Magic Kingdom. Especially Fantasyland.” (Madison, 12:16)
  • “I love the Snow White ride because that was my favorite princess growing up.” (Madison, 12:26)

5. Madison the Bachelor Nation Superfan

• Origin Story

  • Madison became a fan in seventh grade during Brad Womack's seasons; she’s watched ever since.
  • “My friends were getting into the show and then Brad Womack was the Bachelor at the time.” (Madison, 18:01)

• Favorite Memories & Seasons

  • Top moments include watching Sean and Catherine get married and following Ashley and JP’s journey. (Madison, 19:08)

• Personal Connections

  • Attended school with Juliana Pascarosa’s cousins; rooted for Juliana during her Bachelor season and recalls seeing family on hometown dates. (Madison, 20:05-21:28)

• Golden Bachelor Thoughts

  • Has watched all Golden Bachelor/Bachelorette seasons and wedding specials; saddened by Gary and Theresa’s split.
  • “I did see Gary and Teresa's wedding, and I'm sad it didn't work out for them.” (Madison, 23:02)

• Comparison: Bachelor vs. Love on the Spectrum

  • “I enjoy the drama on the Bachelors. It's very entertaining...But I love how Love on the Spectrum is very sweet.” (Madison, 23:21-23:26)

• Meeting Franchise Figures in Real Life

  • Confirms the onscreen “villains” like Brayden and Christina are much nicer in person.
  • “He was the opposite of how he was portrayed on tv.” (Madison on Brayden, 24:02)

6. Autism Acceptance & Advocacy (Autism Acceptance Month)

• Personal Perspective

  • “Autism is a journey, not a disorder. Autism is meant to make you. It is not meant to break you.” (Madison, 25:00)
  • Lists her gifts: crafting, encyclopedic memory (Disney facts, Bachelor facts, American Girl dolls release dates, saying hello in 50 languages, memorizing all states, capitals, presidents).
  • “There are so many gifts associated with autism... I know everything about Bachelor Nation.” (Madison, 25:00-25:56)

• Fun Trivia

  • Reminds everyone Brad Womack was Bachelor twice, Jason Mesnick made a final-pick switch, and Alex Michel was the first Bachelor. (Madison, 26:57-27:24)

• Inclusivity Tips

  • Advocates for sensory-friendly accommodations at events, always carries a sensory bag with fidgets, dolls, beads, noise-canceling headphones. (Madison, 35:21-36:00)

• Media Portrayal of Autism

  • “Yes, it's definitely improved a lot since I was a kid...Autism is a spectrum, so autism comes in every different shape and size nowadays.” (Madison, 34:34)

• Best Ways to Be an Ally

  • “...by including others on the spectrum, no matter if it's school or in public...having a sensory friendly room, like at loud events.” (Madison, 35:21)

7. Madison’s Passions: Dolls, Jewelry, and Memory

• Admits to loving both Barbies and American Girl dolls. She recently added Nanea and another Kirsten to her collection. (Madison, 29:22-29:31)
• Her jewelry is both a sensory comfort and creative outlet.
  • “My jewelry like my...doll play. Yes. There's one Barbie a fan just sent me.”
• Plug: Madison's jewelry business: MadisonUSA.com (Madison, 45:12)

8. Bachelor Nation Lightning Round (Superfan Game!) [36:26–44:47]

A delightful rapid-fire session where Rachel and Charity quiz Madison on Bachelor hypotheticals:

• Yacht/cruise ship over helicopter for a date. (36:44)
• Disney day with Hannah Brown: “She’s the Taylor Swift of Bachelor Nation, as everyone likes to call her.” (Madison, 37:20)
• Has met Kaitlyn Bristowe, Joey & Kelsey, and many other Bachelor personalities at CMA Fest meet & greets.
• First impression rose or final rose? “Obviously the final rose.” (Madison, 39:53)
• Who from Bachelor Nation should Rachel date? Madison offers honest, up-to-date options, showing off her memory for franchise contestants, their relationships, and current statuses.
• Enthusiastically discusses franchise lore—Bachelor Pad, Michael Stagliano, and Jesse Palmer deep cuts. (43:21–44:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On engagement secrecy:
  “We've had to keep it a secret for nine months.” (Madison, 04:58)

• On her relationship:
  “Tyler compliments me in all the best ways... I'm a planner and he's very spontaneous and when I get all anxious and whipped up, he is very go with the flow and very even keeled.” (Madison, 07:36)

• On autism:
  "Autism is a journey, not a disorder. Autism is meant to make you. It is not meant to break you." (Madison, 25:00)
  “If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism.” (Madison, 34:55)

• On being a Bachelor superfan:
  “I know everything about Bachelor Nation.” (Madison, 25:00)
  “Remember, Charity, you're 2023. Rachel, you and Gabby were 2022.” (Madison, 28:07)

• On TV villains vs. real life:
  “He was the opposite of how he was portrayed on tv.” (Madison, 24:02, about Brayden)

• Franchise callback:
  “Jesse Palmer's a good host, and he was the Bachelor for season five.” (Madison, 44:17)
  “We could talk about Bachelor all day long. Madison, this was so fun. We adore you, and we want you back whenever.” (Charity, 44:37)

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Important Timestamps

• [03:14] Madison joins and reveals she’s a Bachelor Nation superfan
• [04:58] Madison discusses keeping her engagement secret for 9 months
• [05:40] Describes her dream wedding dress
• [07:36] Madison talks about how she and Tyler balance each other
• [09:07] Reflecting on engagement episode and party
• [10:47] Madison on life in Plant City and local adventures
• [12:16–12:26] Favorite Disney park (Magic Kingdom) and ride (Snow White coaster)
• [18:01–19:25] Madison’s journey to becoming a Bachelor Nation fan
• [23:21] Comparing Bachelor’s drama to Love on the Spectrum’s sweetness
• [25:00] Madison discusses autism acceptance and her unique gifts
• [34:34] Discusses media portrayal of autism today
• [35:21] Tips on being an autism ally and details about her sensory bag
• [36:26–44:47] Bachelor Nation rapid-fire superfan game
• [44:37] Warm farewell and plug for Madison’s jewelry business

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Overall Atmosphere & Tone

• Warm, affirming, and enthusiastic. The tone is consistently supportive and respectful, with lots of lighthearted moments, inside franchise jokes, and admiration for Madison’s positivity and knowledge.
• Deeply engaging for fans of both the Bachelor franchise and "Love on the Spectrum," as well as advocates for neurodiversity.
• Madison’s voice and perspective shine throughout, creating a standout “feel-good” episode.

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Where to Find Madison

• Instagram & TikTok: @Madison__Marilla
• Jewelry Business: MadisonUSA.com

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Summary By Segment

| Segment | Timestamps | Key Takeaways | |--------------------------------------------|-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------| | Introductions & Engagement | 03:14–04:58 | Madison’s background, Bachelor fandom, and engagement details | | Wedding Planning Dreams | 05:04–06:14 | Ball-gown dreams, “Say Yes to the Dress” outreach | | Relationship Insights | 07:03–08:55 | How Madison & Tyler balance and share interests | | Watching Engagement Back | 09:07–10:10 | Emotional reactions, special family moments | | Florida Life & Disney Adventures | 10:19–12:44 | Moving to Plant City, Disney trip stories, favorite rides etc. | | Bachelor Nation Superfan Talk | 17:42–29:05 | Favorite seasons, trivia, personal encounters with cast/alums | | Autism Acceptance Month Discussion | 25:00–27:46 | Madison’s advocacy, gifts, tips for inclusion | | Franchise Trivia Quick Fire & Matchmaking | 36:26–44:37 | Fun hypotheticals, matchmaking, and deep-dive trivia | | Farewell and Plugs | 44:47–45:25 | Madison’s business and socials; hosts’ warm send-off |

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This episode is a must-listen for anyone who loves a blend of Bachelor franchise nostalgia, real-life romance, and heartwarming reminders of why embracing neurodiversity and inclusion enriches us all.

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[Rachel]

Hello, everyone, and welcome to a very special episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Rachel.

[Charity]

And I am Charity. And today we have a very special guest with us, Madison from Love on the Spectrum. Spectrum. Hi, Madison.

[Madison]

Rachel, a Charity. Thank you so much for having me. I'm also a Bachelor Nation super fan, too.

[Charity]

Oh, we are so delighted to have you.

[Madison]

Thank you very much for the. For the roses as well. Roses are my favorite flower.

[Rachel]

They look beautiful and they match your outfit.

[Madison]

Thank. Thank you.

[Rachel]

I love the red.

[Madison]

Thank you.

[Rachel]

Oh, we are so excited to have you on Madison. I've watched you throughout your journey, and I wanted to congratulate you on your engagement to your cowboy sweetheart.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Madison]

Thank you. And you know what was so funny was when I was a senior in high school, I had a dream about dating a country boy.

[Charity]

Did you?

[Rachel]

Oh, my goodness.

[Madison]

And because I was starting to get into country music when I was in high school, and little did I real. Little did I know, eight years later, the stars would align.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness. This. It was meant to be.

[Rachel]

It really was.

[Charity]

It was meant to be.

[Madison]

Yes. Ben Higgins was the bachelor that year.

[Rachel]

Oh, my goodness.

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[Charity]

We do love Ben.

[Rachel]

And now you're engaged and you have a ring. Are we able to see it?

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness. It's stunning. And it has. Oh, does it have rubies in it?

[Madison]

Yes.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness. It is gorgeous.

[Rachel]

Did he pick that out all on his own?

[Madison]

Yes.

[Rachel]

Oh, my gosh. So he knew that was your favorite color, and he put it in. That's beautiful.

[Charity]

So thoughtful. How has engagement life been for you?

[Madison]

It has been. It has been. It has been amazing. And. And I'm glad that the cat is finally out of the bag. Heart secret to keep.

[Charity]

Oh, how long did you guys have to keep it a secret?

[Madison]

You got engaged on our anniversary, July 15th. And so we've had to keep it a secret for nine months.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness.

[Rachel]

Netflix makes you wait a long time.

[Madison]

Like, I know the batch. I know the Bachelor. You guys only have to wait, like, three months, I'm guessing.

[Charity]

That's right.

[Rachel]

That's true. It's hard to keep a secret for three months. I can't imagine nine.

[Madison]

I know.

[Rachel]

Do you guys have any Fun wedding plans that you're excited for coming up.

[Madison]

Yes. We've only just started planning because we've had to keep it a secret for so long, but I'm very excited to find my wedding dress.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness. Do you have a specific style that you are dreaming of?

[Madison]

I'm a big ball. I really want a princess ball gown. Lots of bling, lots of tulle.

[Charity]

I can see that.

[Rachel]

I can see it too.

[Charity]

I can see it. It would be Disney princess moment.

[Madison]

Yeah. Cinderella inspired.

[Rachel]

Oh, I. Cinderella. I love that. Madison, I did hear you say on your season that you wanted to go and say yes to the dress. Is that a possibility in the future?

[Madison]

You know, Randy Finoli reached out and I got all crazy excited as that's another one of my favorite shows.

[Rachel]

Oh, my. Did he say that he wanted to make an appointment with you?

[Madison]

He did. And we've been talking and so. And you'll never know. It may be happening in the near future.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness. I'm so excited for you.

[Rachel]

I can't wait to see Randy would be able to find you your Cinderella belle inspired dress.

[Charity]

You're gonna have the best time. He knows everything about the wedding gowns.

[Madison]

Everything. Yes. I'm saying Cinderella because of the sleeves and the neckline. I want.

[Charity]

Oh, do you want like Cinderella, like a little bit of poof in?

[Madison]

Yeah, I want. I want like the cap sleeves and I want like a. I kind of want the scoop neck like Cinderella.

[Charity]

Ha.

[Rachel]

I love that Charity is wedding planning as well.

[Charity]

I am too. Yes. My. My fiance, Dawton.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Charity]

We are planning and I already have my dress. So.

[Madison]

Yes.

[Charity]

It's the most magical day. When you find your dress, you're going to be so happy. And the best part of it is like, as long as you feel like a Disney princess in it, that's all that matters.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Charity]

And you will. Yeah.

[Rachel]

You guys are soon coming up on your. Would it be one year of being engaged then in July 15th? Yes.

[Madison]

And it will be our two year anniversary.

[Rachel]

Two year anniversary. What do you think it is about your cowboy sweetheart that makes your relationship work so well?

[Madison]

Tyler compliments me in all the best ways for, For, For. For example, I'm a planner and he's very spontaneous and when I get all anxious and whipped up, he is very go with the flow and very even keeled.

[Charity]

Oh, that's. So you guys balance each other out.

[Madison]

Yes. And also, like, I like sweet foods, he likes spicy foods.

[Rachel]

It's true.

[Charity]

No, it literally is. They're like each other's perfect Match. I love this.

[Rachel]

But you guys have things in common, too. You both like country music, right?

[Madison]

Yeah, that is. That is very true. We both love country music. We both love going to amusement parks. We both love going to church.

[Charity]

Oh, amazing. Does. Does Tyler play the guitar for you?

[Madison]

He does. You know, he's working on an upcoming album, and he's written several songs about me.

[Charity]

I was going to ask, has he written any songs about you? I. I mean, he's perfect.

[Rachel]

Do you guys think you're going to dance to one of his songs for your first dance, or do you have

[Madison]

another one in mind? We're deciding, like, doing his own music. Like we're doing. Thinking about doing his own music. And he seren while we do our first dance.

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[Madison]

That's our plan.

[Rachel]

Madison, that is a dream. That would truly be a dream wedding.

[Charity]

I want. I'm like, can he teach Dalton how to sing in time for our wedding?

[Madison]

Because he knows the chord. He knows the chords to every song.

[Charity]

That's beautiful.

[Rachel]

He is very musically inclined.

[Charity]

He's very smart. Love that.

[Rachel]

I have a question. So we saw your engagement play out on tv just like the Bachelor. What was that like? Watching that all back?

[Madison]

It was very happy and emotional watching it all back. He took me back to the place where we had our very first date, which was very special.

[Charity]

Yes, I saw that. And then at the end, you guys had an engagement party.

[Madison]

Yes. Where we. Where all the cast came together. And I and three of my good friends from church came. My aide Megan, from childhood, flew from California to Florida to surprise me, which was very special. And all of Tyler's family came.

[Charity]

That is very sweet. That is very sweet.

[Madison]

And my parents and my brother were there.

[Rachel]

That is a dream engagement. And I loved watching it.

[Charity]

No, it was. I just finished watching it, like, I want to say, two weeks ago, and I was crying. It was. It brought me to tears. When he started playing the song for you and you guys were dancing and having just a special moment in front of everybody, it almost felt like it was just like you guys there. Even though you had all your family and friends, it just kind of took us in and we got to see just all the love in Yalls relationship in that moment.

[Madison]

I had no idea he wrote those songs for me.

[Charity]

Oh, you did? And so he kept it a surprise. I'm like, I'm gonna cry. He kept it a surprise for that moment?

[Madison]

Yes.

[Charity]

That's beautiful. He's very special. I love him.

[Rachel]

Oh, my goodness. Madison. So you're living in Plant City. Yes, how are you liking it in Florida and being closer to your cowboy sweetheart?

[Madison]

Yeah, before. Before I dated Tyler. Like, like when season three filmed. I was living in St. Pete at the time.

[Rachel]

Okay.

[Madison]

But I did grow up in California and Massachusetts.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Rachel]

What's it like being in Florida? I'm from Florida, so I know it gets very, very hot there. Lots of storms.

[Madison]

Yes.

[Charity]

But.

[Madison]

But like, I am loving play. I am loving living in Plant City. Just being five minutes away from Tyler. We go to church together.

[Charity]

Amazing.

[Madison]

We go to church together every Sunday and, like, Wednesday nights, like, I'll serve in youth group and kids church, while Tyler will go to choir practice and we'll go to. Tyler and I will go to amusement. We'll go. We'll go on. Our favorite place to go on a date is Busch Gardens.

[Rachel]

I love Busch Gardens.

[Charity]

I haven't been to Busch Gardens yet.

[Rachel]

Oh, it's so fun. Have you guys been to Disney World together?

[Madison]

You know, Tyler surprised. For Christmas last year, Tyler took me to Disney World.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness.

[Rachel]

I have to know.

[Charity]

I need to know.

[Rachel]

How was it?

[Charity]

I'm a Disney girl too.

[Madison]

We both know that was amazing. Like, another way Tyler compliments me is I love dressing up and he is not into dressing up.

[Charity]

So did you have all your outfits planned for your trip in Disney World?

[Madison]

Like idol my princess dress is all planned out. And idol my princess grit. Idol my pins. Whereas Tyler. Whereas he's just all, like, he's just all plain button ups and cowboy hats no matter where it is. He's not a dress up person.

[Rachel]

I love that he lets you be the star. Did you get to meet any of the princesses when you were there?

[Madison]

I got to meet my favorite princess.

[Rachel]

Was it Belle?

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness.

[Madison]

When I was little, it was Snow White.

[Rachel]

Oh, my gosh, I love Belle. Was she in her yellow dress or was she in her blue one?

[Madison]

She was in her yellow dress.

[Charity]

That's my favorite.

[Rachel]

I love that.

[Charity]

What was your favorite park? Do you have a favorite park?

[Madison]

Magic Kingdom. Especially Fantasyland.

[Charity]

Correct. It's a classic. I'm like, you can't beat Magic Kingdom.

[Rachel]

What's your favorite ride?

[Madison]

I would have to say. I would have to say I love the Snow White ride because that was my favorite princess growing up. And of course, that now that it's a roller coaster.

[Charity]

Right.

[Madison]

And I would have to say I also love Splash Mountain and Space Mountain.

[Charity]

Space Mountain is the best. It's very fast, but it's really fun.

[Madison]

Yes. And then at mgm, I love the. The rock and roller coaster, which is now turning the Muppets coaster and then Tower of Tear and then an animal kingdom. I love Everest.

[Charity]

It sounds like you like all the rides. I know. I'm like, I. There's not one that you said that you're like, I don't think I would get on. Does Tyler also ride the rides with you?

[Madison]

He does.

[Charity]

That's, you know, that's the best. I'm like, sometimes.

[Madison]

I love the Internet. I love the international dolls at Small World a lot.

[Charity]

Oh, yes. I. I have not done that ride in so long.

[Rachel]

Oh, it's so good. You guys complement each other so well.

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[Charity]

Okay, we are going to go into some bachelor stuff if that's okay, because I'm. Yes, I know that's like, probably one of your favorites, if not. Okay. So you mentioned being a fan of Bachelor Nation, so I'm curious what originally made you love the shows. Like the Bachelor.

[Madison]

Yes. I believe I was in seventh grade at the time, and. And my friends were getting into the show and then Brad Womack was. Was the Bachelor at the time.

[Charity]

We were just.

[Rachel]

We were just talking about him.

[Madison]

Yeah, that was.

[Rachel]

That was a while ago.

[Charity]

Yeah. And. And.

[Madison]

And I. And. And then I just. And then I got into a season, and then Emily Maynard won that season. Ashley became Bachelorette. Am I. And then. And then. And then Ashley fell in love with JP that summer when I first moved to Massachusetts. And then following following year. I mean, I remember that. I remember watching Ben's season and he's from where I grew up in California and which. And I remember watching his seat, his season, and then I just became hooked ever since then.

[Rachel]

Oh, my. Those were good.

[Charity]

You got in when it was peaked. Ashley, My Ashley is my favorite Bachelorette, like, hands down, that was like one of the first seasons I've ever watched, and I love her.

[Rachel]

Do you have a favorite season?

[Madison]

You know, like, you know, like, I. I would say one of the best moments was seeing Shawn and Catherine get married.

[Charity]

Oh. I mean, I'm right there with you. That wedding was beautiful.

[Madison]

Yes. Because I kind of knew when. When Shawn chose Catherine at the end of his season that they would get married.

[Rachel]

Do you.

[Charity]

Do you try to guess before the season starts of who might be the final person at the end?

[Madison]

Yeah, I kind of have a. I kind of have a feeling, like, I kind of felt like in Sean, like, because when Sean gave Tierra the first impression, Rose and she became the bad girl.

[Charity]

Yes, her.

[Rachel]

And her. Yes. Oh, my goodness. I love that.

[Madison]

Okay.

[Rachel]

Yeah. Are there any people that you connect with watching the show or any favorite contestants ironically looking.

[Madison]

Ironically. I went to heist. Like, I went to high school with Juliana Pascarosa's cousins.

[Charity]

Oh, wow.

[Madison]

In Massachusetts. I met Juliana Pascarosa at her cousin's graduation party in 2015.

[Charity]

Oh, wow.

[Rachel]

That's amazing.

[Madison]

And I graduated high school the next Year and saw her again at her cousin. That was in my graduating class. Classes, graduation party. So it was her cousin Alana whose graduation party I met her at, that I saw her get her cousin Sophia's party the next year.

[Charity]

Oh, wow. So you guys have kind of always known each other, seen each other.

[Madison]

Yeah. It's such a small town right where I grew up. And so it was. And it was so funny all these years later, seeing her on the. Seeing her on the Bachelor. I'm like, I know her.

[Charity]

I was going to ask, how was it when you saw that she was going to be on this show?

[Madison]

I was like. It was like. I was like, wait, I know her. And I'm like. I'm like. I was like, wait, I know her.

[Rachel]

Were you surprised when she got engaged, or were you so excited?

[Madison]

I was so excited. I was so excited for the fact that she kept making it week after week. I was rooting. I was rooting for her. I'm like, this girl's from where I'm from, and. And I was like, wait, I know her. In fact, they showed Massachusetts. They, like. They showed Boston. I was like, wait. I'm like, I want this girl to win. The fact that she. The fact that her cousins were in her. Her cousins that I went to high school with were in my home, were in her hometown. Date. I was, like, pausing. I was like, that's them.

[Rachel]

Oh, you saw everyone you knew. That's so special. I'm sure they were excited watching you as well.

[Madison]

Yes, they were.

[Charity]

Did you get a chance to meet Julian, Wait. Or seen. Have you seen Juliana recently?

[Madison]

You know what's so funny was she and her cousins FaceTimed me about a year ago.

[Rachel]

Oh, what a special relationship.

[Madison]

And then Grant was there, too, so I got to meet Grant over facetime as well.

[Charity]

Did you like Grant?

[Madison]

Yes. He was so nice. It was like they were on a trip in Fort Lauderdale.

[Charity]

That's sweet.

[Rachel]

Oh, so they were close to you?

[Charity]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rachel]

Out of all the shows, the Bachelor, the Bachelorette, and Bachelor in Paradise, which one do you like watching the most?

[Madison]

I. This is. I like all of them.

[Rachel]

Us, too. I don't know if I could pick.

[Charity]

She's a true fan. She's a real one.

[Rachel]

If you could go on any of them, just for fun, which one would you pick to go on?

[Madison]

Like, to be honest, like, as much as I love the Bachelor, I've already found love on the spectrum.

[Charity]

That's correct, sister.

[Rachel]

I love that answer.

[Charity]

She said, I got my sweetheart.

[Rachel]

She has the ring and the Cowboy, sweetheart.

[Charity]

I love that. Madison, have you had the chance to watch the Golden Bachelor Bachelorette?

[Madison]

Yes, of course. I've watched Gary season, Joan season, Mel's season. I've watched it all.

[Charity]

Oh, my God. Do you have any favorites from the Goldens?

[Madison]

I would. I. To be honest. Like, I. I enjoyed. I enjoyed watching. Watching all of it.

[Charity]

All of them. They are very fun.

[Rachel]

Did you see the Golden Wedding as well?

[Madison]

I did see Gary and Teresa's wedding, and I'm sad it didn't work out for them.

[Charity]

Us too, sweetheart. We are very sad. We were there and very heartbroken after.

[Rachel]

I have a question. What do you think shows like the Bachelor get right or wrong about love compared to your experience on Love on the Spectrum?

[Madison]

I enjoy the drama on the Bachelors. It's very entertaining.

[Rachel]

It is entertaining.

[Madison]

Yes, but love. But I love how Love on the Spectrum is very sweet.

[Charity]

Yes, yes, I would agree. It's very wholesome. You guys. It's straight to the point. There's no. There's no messing around. It's about love.

[Rachel]

I agree. The drama is fun to watch, not very fun to be a part of. So I'm glad you got your engagement ring. You got your man, and you didn't have to go through any of the drama.

[Madison]

Yeah. Charity, like, with. Like on your season, there was drama with Brayden, and I met Brayden in Nashville last summer at CMA Fest, and he was so nice.

[Charity]

See? And you know what?

[Rachel]

So nice.

[Charity]

He was nice.

[Madison]

He was the opposite of how he was portrayed on tv.

[Charity]

You're right.

[Rachel]

It's very true.

[Charity]

You're telling me.

[Madison]

I told Braden I'd mail him some earrings.

[Charity]

Oh, wait. He would love that. He really was.

[Madison]

Rachel, you got to meet. You got to meet Braden on Bachelor in Paradise.

[Rachel]

I did. Rachel, too.

[Charity]

Had her time.

[Rachel]

I think I still have one of his earrings. He loves earrings. Did you get to meet Christina as well?

[Madison]

I did. Christina Mandrell. She was villainized on Zach.

[Charity]

I was gonna say. You saw her on Zach season.

[Madison]

She was much nicer in person than she was on tv.

[Charity]

And that's usually how it goes. It's crazy. But, yes. Me and Christ Braden are all friends now, and life is good. So we love that.

[Madison]

Yes.

[Charity]

Okay, we're gonna go into autism acceptance month. That's April. And so we love how much awareness and how much you advocate for it. So what does autism mean to you personally?

[Madison]

Autism? For me, autism is a journey, not a disorder. Autism is meant to make you. It is not meant to break you. There's so Many gifts associated with autism. For. For me, I can. I'm a speedy crafter. I like. I like. I can make jewelry. I can make jewelry. Very speedy. I can sew. Very, very, very speedy. And some get. And some other gifts I have is. I know the whole entire Disney encyclopedia. I know everything about. There is to know about. About Bachelor Bachelor Nation. And I. I know when American Girl dolls were. Were released. And. And I have a. And I know how to say hello in 50 languages.

[Charity]

Oh, my goodness. That's amazing. Madison.

[Madison]

I have. I've had all the states and capitals memorized since kindergarten. Wow.

[Rachel]

Oh, my goodness.

[Madison]

I've all. I've had all the presidents in or memorized in order since, like, second or third grade.

[Charity]

Amazing.

[Rachel]

Absolutely phenomenal.

[Madison]

And I. And. And. And I have a very good memory for names and dates. Like, especially, like, flight attendants names, right?

[Rachel]

Oh, my goodness. The flight attendants.

[Madison]

Names of people I went to height. Names of. Names of. Names of old classmates of mine.

[Charity]

She has a great.

[Rachel]

Your memory is incredible. And your jewelry is beautiful. I just have to tell you, I admire it every time you're on my screen.

[Madison]

I remember, like, hotel. I remember hotel rooms.

[Charity]

Wow.

[Madison]

Like, I remember. I remember gate numbers, like where I sat on an airplane, like, days of the week. Things. Things hap. Things happened on.

[Charity]

So, Madison, you talked about knowing a lot of facts and remembering things, and obviously Bachelor Nation is a big one for you. So do you have any fun facts about Bachelor Nation or something that really is interesting to you that maybe not a lot of people might know about? Yes.

[Madison]

Like, like, for. Like, for. Like, for. For example, like, I know Brad Womack was the Bachelor twice.

[Charity]

Yes, that's right.

[Madison]

I know. Like, I know Jason Mesnick originally picked Melissa Rycroft, then went with Molly.

[Charity]

Correct. She knows.

[Madison]

I know. I know. Like, met and I know. And I. And I know. Like some other. Like, I'm thinking about some other. Some seasons. Like, I know Alex Michelle was the first Bachelor in 2003.

[Charity]

Oh, wow. See, I don't even know that.

[Madison]

Like, I watched all of her a minute ago. I watched all the old seasons during COVID with one of my friends.

[Charity]

Oh, wow. You watched them all during COVID Like

[Madison]

all the ones before Brad Womack.

[Charity]

Right.

[Rachel]

I need to go back and watch those. And me and Charity were just talking about who was bachelor twice, and I thought it was someone else.

[Charity]

She said another J. Is it Jake.

[Rachel]

Jake Pavelka?

[Madison]

Yeah, that's what she said. Jake Pavelka. I think that was. That was 2010. Womack was 2011. And then. And then Mesnick was 2009.

[Rachel]

We needed you a second ago, Madison.

[Charity]

We need you.

[Rachel]

You can be our third host, because me and Charity. Well, me specifically.

[Charity]

Me, too.

[Rachel]

My memory is not that good.

[Charity]

I'm like, who?

[Madison]

Remember, Charity, you're 20, 23. Rachel, you and Gabby were 2022.

[Charity]

That's right.

[Rachel]

I forget that sometimes.

[Charity]

Rachel's like, when was I.

[Madison]

How.

[Charity]

That's right, Madison, you have the dates on lock. That is so impressive and a gift.

[Rachel]

What parts of your experience feel most misunderstood by people who aren't autistic?

[Madison]

I would say when I was in. When I was in middle school and high school, I was. I. I found carrying my dolls around and using my toy bag to be an embarrassment at first. But then when I got to be in college, I. I became proud of it.

[Charity]

Oh, I love that.

[Madison]

Yes. And same thing with. Same thing with my. With my jewelry. When I got to be in high school, I realized I needed my jewelry for the. For the weight of it.

[Charity]

And so your jewelry is. Is probably one of the things that make you most happy and in your. Your dolls, right?

[Madison]

Yeah. My jewelry, like my. Like my. My doll play. Yes. There's one Barbie a fan just sent me.

[Charity]

Oh, amazing. I love her outfit.

[Rachel]

Have you gotten any new American Girl dolls?

[Madison]

I just got two new ones in the mail yesterday.

[Rachel]

Two new ones? Who did you get in the mail?

[Madison]

Like, I got Nanea, and I got another Kirsten doll.

[Charity]

What's there? What's there? I'm not. I'm not too familiar with.

[Madison]

Nanea was the Hawaiian one from Pearl Harbor.

[Charity]

Okay.

[Madison]

1941 curse in 1854, and she was the pioneer era.

[Rachel]

Oh, that's right, Madison. I had Felicity and Elizabeth. Do you have them?

[Madison]

Yeah, I. I have Felicity and a fan of sending me Elizabeth.

[Rachel]

Those are my two American Girl dolls.

[Charity]

I love American Girls. It's not too late. I can get into it now.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Charity]

I'm gonna go get me an American Girl charity.

[Rachel]

We need to get you one.

[Charity]

I was a Barbie girl, so I'm like, I missed out on the American Girl doll era.

[Madison]

Yeah, I'm both.

[Charity]

You like Barbie, too? Yeah. I had, like, the collector's editions. I loved them.

[Rachel]

She's the perfect combination of us.

[Charity]

No, she really is.

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[Charity]

do you feel like the media is improving in how it portrays autism?

[Madison]

Yes, it's definitely improved a lot since I was a kid because autism has become a lot more prevalent now. Autism is a spectrum, so autism comes in every different shape and size nowadays.

[Charity]

Yes, and I love how it's being. You guys obviously have your own show now, so we're getting to see like, like, you know, the life and the intricacies of that. So that's really special.

[Madison]

And one saying about autism is if you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism. That means no Two people on the spectrum are the same.

[Charity]

That's right. That is so true. That's beautiful.

[Rachel]

All right, the last question. What are some ways people can be better allies to autistic individuals in everyday settings?

[Charity]

I love this question.

[Madison]

I would say. I definitely would say for that one is.

[Rachel]

Is.

[Madison]

Is by including others on the spectrum, no matter if it's school or in or in public. Like, having a sensory friendly room, like at loud events like concerts or sporting events, because I get overwhelmed in those situations. And nowadays people are becoming more inclusive of that. Like, they even hand out sensory bags, which I tend to provide for myself because I'd rather use my own stuff than use what's provided, because I've been doing that long before that stuff became prevalent.

[Charity]

Right.

[Rachel]

What do you keep in your sensory bag?

[Madison]

Tons of fidgets, dolls, beads, everything that can help.

[Rachel]

I love it.

[Madison]

Noise canceling headphones.

[Charity]

I was gonna say, do you have noise canceling? I'm like, I do like those when I fly. Those help a lot.

[Madison]

Yes.

[Charity]

Amazing. Well, Madison, you are awesome in your advocating for autism, and we love how April is autism awareness month, and we are gonna forever do what we can to continue to support and uplift always.

[Madison]

Thank you.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

Okay, before we go, do you mind if we play a little bachelor superfan game?

[Madison]

Of course.

[Rachel]

Okay. These are gonna be fun questions, and I'm excited to hear your answer. Okay. Would you rather have your one on one date be on a yacht or a helicopter?

[Madison]

A yacht or a cruise ship?

[Rachel]

She said I had a cruise ship, so I feel you.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

Better than the helicopter.

[Madison]

I remember you and Gabby season was on a cruise ship and you guys stopped in Paris, which is my dream.

[Rachel]

Yes, we did.

[Madison]

I remember it was like you and Tino and Gabby and Jason had that one on one date.

[Rachel]

We did in Paris. I remember it was raining.

[Charity]

It was a dream.

[Rachel]

Beautiful day.

[Charity]

It was a dream. The best part. I love their season. Okay. Yeah. Would you have a Disney day with Hannah Brown or do bracelet making with Jojo Fletcher?

[Madison]

Hannah Brown, because she's the I. I. The Taylor Swift of Bachelor Nation, as everyone likes to call her, period.

[Charity]

She is, honestly. Yes.

[Rachel]

Having a Disney day with Hannah Brown would be so much fun.

[Charity]

It would be like she would make it so special too. I actually kind of, like, ever.

[Madison]

Like, like, just watching Colton season back, like, like, like I could. Like, I could tell that she was gonna be the Bachelorette the next season.

[Charity]

Oh, you knew.

[Madison]

Like, even though she was. She was portrayed as the villain. It was like all these people, everyone kind of wanted her to be the Bachelorette. And then she was on Dancing with the stars 1 Dancing with the Stars. That woman is an icon.

[Rachel]

Oh, she is an icon.

[Charity]

Hannah, make sure you watch this.

[Rachel]

I know Hannah's gonna. So excited to hear this.

[Madison]

Yeah. I also want to meet Maddie Pruitt.

[Charity]

Oh, yeah.

[Rachel]

Pilot, peak season.

[Madison]

She's very strong in her. In her Christian face.

[Charity]

Yes, she is.

[Rachel]

Okay, would you rather go on a double date with Joey and Kelsey or Alex and Andrew?

[Madison]

Joey and Kelsey, because I met them last summer at CMA Fest in the Spotify Lounge, and they were very nice.

[Charity]

Oh, they are actual angels.

[Rachel]

I think you can't lose with either. They would be great to double date with Truly.

[Charity]

Okay, go have a girls night with Kaitlyn Bristow or Gen Trian.

[Madison]

I am torn because I met Caitlin in the Spotify Lounge at CMA Fest last summer, and she's an icon. And also, Jen and I are both from Boston.

[Charity]

Oh, amazing.

[Rachel]

You've met so many people.

[Charity]

I'm like, you literally know everyone. I'm.

[Rachel]

She knows more people than me.

[Madison]

All these meet and greets last summer. Yes.

[Rachel]

And I bet they're just as excited to meet you.

[Charity]

Honestly.

[Madison]

I told Caitlin that I watched her season.

[Rachel]

Oh, Caitlyn had a great.

[Charity]

She had. I think one of. One of the.

[Madison]

Yes, it was so funny because Nick Vile, he was on Andy season, then he was on Bachelor in Paradise. He was again on Caitlyn season, then he went back to Bachelor in Paradise, and he went back to Bachelor in Paradise. Then he became the Bachelor.

[Rachel]

I think he holds the record.

[Charity]

No, he does. I'm like, he wasn't giving up.

[Madison]

He's another Bachelor Nation icon that I want to meet.

[Rachel]

Oh, he would be so excited. He'll probably meet you at the Netflix summer.

[Madison]

Then he started Age of Attraction.

[Rachel]

There we go. Have you watched that as well?

[Madison]

Yes. That's another good show. And then all of then. And then when Tyler and I and all the other Love on the Spectrum cast, we were at the premiere then the Age of Attraction people. They had their premiere the same week.

[Rachel]

Oh, yes, they did. Okay, last question. Would you rather get the first impression rose or the final rose?

[Madison]

Obviously the final rose.

[Charity]

Come on now, because what's the point? You know what I mean? Daniel Lane, we're here for the rings. Madison.

[Madison]

Yes.

[Producer]

I'm gonna jump in really quickly before we let Madison go, because I have a question for Madison.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Producer]

Okay, Madison, if you could set our Rachel here up with any guy from Bachelor Nation, who would you set her up with?

[Madison]

I'm Gonna have to like. I'm thinking about who's still sing, who's still single. Like, Grant is now single.

[Charity]

That's right.

[Madison]

Grant Snow. Grant Snow. Grant's now single. Jonathan is single.

[Charity]

Jonathan. What's Jonathan?

[Madison]

Jonathan from Jen season.

[Charity]

He actually has a girlfriend now. He just really.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Madison]

Thinking about the. I'm thinking about Charity from, From your season. Aaron. From your season.

[Charity]

Single Mercy. Aaron. Aaron. Aaron B.

[Rachel]

He's not single.

[Madison]

He's not.

[Charity]

He's actually. Yeah, he's not. He's dating Medina. Do you remember Medina from Joey season now?

[Madison]

I remember her.

[Charity]

They're dating. So they're now together.

[Madison]

And then, and then, and then, and then Xavier from your season, Charity.

[Charity]

Well, yes, Xavier is.

[Rachel]

Those are all great pics. You can't go wrong with any of those guys.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

I love those pics.

[Madison]

I'm just thinking about. I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about guys from that. That I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about recent. I'm thinking about recent guys.

[Rachel]

Yeah, we haven't had a season come out in so long.

[Charity]

In so long. Madison, what are your thoughts about Pilot Pete?

[Madison]

Pilot Pete, like, he, he took. He dated so many girls. Like, he chose Hannah Ann and then they didn't work out. Then he got back with Maddie Pruitt. They didn't work out. Then he got back with Kelly. They didn't work out. Now he's with another girl.

[Charity]

Right. Maybe he should just. Yeah, I think we'll leave Paul, what

[Madison]

did you think he was. He was runner up on Hannah Brown season.

[Rachel]

Who do you think Hannah Brown should have picked if she didn't end up with Jed?

[Madison]

Peter, obviously.

[Rachel]

Peter. Yes.

[Madison]

He was. My favorite guy on that season was Pilot Pete.

[Rachel]

Pilot Pete is great.

[Madison]

I was, I was rooting for him from the beginning. And then he did not get chosen. And then, and then he became the Bachelor.

[Charity]

Well, it. I was going to say it worked out, but no.

[Rachel]

Madison, I have a one more question. When you watched mine and Gabby season, who did you think me or Gabby should have ended up with?

[Madison]

With. I was thinking for Gabby. I really liked Nate.

[Charity]

I did too.

[Madison]

I was rooting for him because he was a single dad.

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[Rachel]

Me too. I was rooting for Nate.

[Charity]

He's. I, I do like Nate a lot.

[Madison]

But then, but then Gabby didn't. But then he came in fourth place on Gabby's side. But then she, when she was at her. She was at his hometown. She's like, I can't see Myself as a dad, which is the saddest thing ever.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Madison]

On your side. I rooted for Zach on your. On your end.

[Rachel]

We love Zach.

[Charity]

We do.

[Rachel]

And it all worked out because then he had his own season, and now he's with Katie and he's married. We love Zach.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Madison]

Yes. And then Charity, on your. On your season, I. On your season, I believe it was either Joey or Doton that I was hoping for.

[Charity]

Listen. And, you know, somehow I picked the right two at the end. Thank God. Thank God.

[Rachel]

You had a great final three.

[Madison]

Yes. And I. Yeah, I kind of knew that Braden would go on Bachelor Pad. I kind of had a feeling.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

He was perfect for Bachelor.

[Madison]

Him and Christina and Mandrell. They're meant for each other.

[Charity]

That's. That's right. We all said the same thing. It's, like, perfect. Everyone finds their perfect person. Did you watch Bachelor Pad? And do you think we should bring it back?

[Madison]

I definitely think so.

[Charity]

I agree.

[Madison]

Yeah, I did. I did watch it. I remember. I remember on. I remember. I remember how, like Michael Stagliano,

[Charity]

I

[Rachel]

need to go back and watch this.

[Charity]

I'm like, she knows every lore about Bachelor, and I love.

[Producer]

I have to just jump in. I'm one of the producers. I cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate your encyclopedic knowledge of this franchise, because I am sitting here as the only one who talks about how Bachelor Pad is the greatest show this franchise has ever made. And just to hear you even say Michael Stagliano's name had me screaming in the booth.

[Charity]

Because.

[Producer]

Because nobody else here understands what a key player that man was in the

[Rachel]

history of this franchise.

[Producer]

How dare you, Rachel Rickia.

[Charity]

Yeah. Madison will let us know what season was Michael on?

[Madison]

Jillian. Season.

[Charity]

Jillian. There we go. Duh. See? Yeah. Madison's gonna be our third host.

[Rachel]

Madison, we need you on this podcast.

[Madison]

Jesse Palmer's a good host, and he was the Bachelor for season five.

[Rachel]

He was.

[Charity]

That's right.

[Rachel]

And he's the reason we can't eat on camera. Cause he was eating so much on camera, he wouldn't talk to his date.

[Madison]

Jesse Palmer would.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

That's why when we eat our food, our food is not real in front of us. Because of Jesse Palmer, we could talk

[Charity]

about Bachelor all day long. Madison, this was so fun. We adore you, and we want you back whenever, truly. Because we have so much more clearly to talk about.

[Rachel]

And congratulations again on your engagement.

[Madison]

Thank you.

[Charity]

And for us and our viewers, we want to know, where can people.

[Madison]

People follow you at you can follow me on. You can follow me on Instagram at Tick Tock Madison, Madison Underscore Underscore Marilla and then my website for my jewelry business is Madison USA.com amazing.

[Charity]

We will. I'm gonna have to go browse. I'm gonna order something because I need some stuff.

[Rachel]

Everyone needs to order something. Follow Madison and make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour and Bachelor Nation. Make sure you rate, review and subscribe wherever you get your podcast.

[Charity]

Cheers. We're out. Thank you Madison.

[Madison]

Of course.

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