New Hosts Charity & Rachel Take Over! | Happy Hour

Summary

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Bachelor Happy Hour

Episode: New Hosts Charity & Rachel Take Over! | Happy Hour
Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Charity Lawson & Rachel Recchia

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Episode Overview

This lively kickoff episode celebrates the launch of Charity Lawson and Rachel Recchia as the brand new co-hosts of Bachelor Happy Hour. The two beloved Bachelorettes set the tone for their era: vibrant, unfiltered, and full of inside details from the world of Bachelor Nation. In this first installment, Charity and Rachel:

• Catch up on major personal milestones (including Charity’s milestone birthday)
• Spill behind-the-scenes tea from their seasons
• Reflect on how reality TV shaped their friendships and outlooks
• Share hot takes about the historic new season and lead of The Bachelorette
• Play “Never Did I Ever: Bachelorette Edition,” revealing hilarious and sometimes awkward stories from filming

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Main Topics & Discussion Highlights

Welcoming the New Hosts

[02:01-02:54]

• Charity and Rachel are introduced as the new official hosts.
• Playful energy between them, joking about the network's "worst decision" turning out to be the best.
• Notable quote:
  • Rachel: "This is the worst decision they've ever made."
  • Charity (laughing): "No, but I'm so here for it." (02:08-02:14)

Catching Up: Charity’s Vegas Birthday Bash

[03:15-08:43]

• Charity just turned 30 on December 30 (her “golden birthday”) with a blowout Las Vegas celebration.
• Many Bachelor Nation friends attended, with the camaraderie spilling onto social media.
• Rachel followed along “parasocially,” joking about watching Bachelor castmates like they were surreal Sims characters.
• Party highlights:
  • Difficulties planning an NYE birthday
  • Warwick (Sleepy Warwick) attending, new friendships among castmates
  • Vegas shenanigans (no arrests, fake rumor about an elopement for fun)
• Notable quote:
  • Charity: "It's Vegas, so we tried to do our best not to sleep. Exactly. It's gonna stay there." (05:44-05:52)

Wedding & 30s Life Plans

[07:05-09:54]

• Charity drops hints about her wedding plans:
  • Multi-dress affair, including a Nigerian cultural outfit, with plans to travel to Nigeria for a custom-tailored ensemble.
  • Destination wedding: destination described as “warm and sunny.”
  • Wedding party will be intimate—focused on family, NOT a massive bridal party from Bachelor Nation.
• On friendship with fellow contestants:
  • “We didn’t get the guy, so we got great friendship out of this, which is, like, the best thing.” (10:38-10:44)
• Tie-in with Rachel’s own wedding conversations.

Rachel’s 2025 Reflections: Holidays & Perfect Match

[11:35-13:41]

• Rachel spent the holidays at home journaling—a personal tradition.
• 2025 was a hard year, partially due to filming Netflix’s “Perfect Match.”
• Discusses dynamics of being a Bachelor alum on a new reality show—navigating press with fellow franchise exes, emotional challenges.
• Notable moment:
  • Rachel: “When I did that, I truly thought the Bachelor would just never speak again.” (12:10-12:21)

The New Bachelorette Season: Hot Takes

[16:12-24:40]

• The lead (Taylor) is described as a celebrity-worthy choice, “a household name.”
• Both are genuinely excited for Taylor’s unpredictable, dynamic energy, noting the franchise shift towards more “groundbreaking” choices.
• Draw parallels with iconic Bachelorettes like Kaitlyn Bristowe and Hannah Brown for their “rule-breaking,” chaotic energy.
• Conversation about Taylor never having been a contestant, and how her lack of contestant empathy could play out.
• Discussed potential for exes (Dakota) to show up on Taylor’s season—Rachel roots for drama, Charity for fresh starts.
• Rachel: "Taylor’s coming in already like, ‘this is who I am. I’m gonna make mistakes.’ And I think, like, the sky’s the limit for her at this point." (20:59-21:03)
• Charity: “We are on a path to success, and the success is finding true love.” (23:50-23:53)

“Never Did I Ever: Bachelorette Edition” Game

[27:08-36:43]
A fun, candid game with rapid-fire Q&A—shedding light on the realities of filming:

Forgetting Contestant Names

• Charity admits to forgetting names on night one—too many similar names, overwhelmed.
• Rachel only had 10 guys, so she remembered (except "Meatball's" real name).
• Rachel: “One of them was a Meatball. How do you forget that name?” (29:14-29:18)

Feeling Relieved by Cancelled Group Dates

• Both loved when group dates got shortened—Charity credits Barbie group date as an exception because it was genuinely fun.
• Reflections on group date drama, especially with Braden on Charity’s season.

Regretting One-on-One Choices

• Charity concedes regretting some picks: “There’s like three [I regret] … Warwick, Brayden…” (31:37-31:44)
• Rachel only got five dates on her season (due to logistics with Gabby), feels she missed opportunities—jokes about needing a redo, but says, “That’s the last thing this world needs.” (29:34-29:35)

Hoping for a Conversation Interruption

• Charity hates being interrupted—even when not vibing, wants natural closure.
• Rachel recalls an awkward magician conversation that she and Gabby both tried to escape.
• Rachel: “That was the one conversation I remember. We were like, let’s wrap it up. I don’t want to pick any more cards, please.” (36:08-36:11)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "We're alpha blind for good. Defying gravity. We have water bottles. I have a green one. She has a pink one." – Rachel (02:27-02:37)
• "I had the best birthday celebration… I had like, literally half of Bachelor Nation with me.” – Charity (03:51-04:16)
• “I didn't get the guy, so we got great friendship out of this, which is … the best thing.” – Charity (10:38-10:44)
• “Taylor is coming in already … ‘this is who I am, I’m gonna make mistakes.’ And I think, like, the sky’s the limit for her at this point.” – Rachel (20:59-21:03)
• “Leave all the exes at home. The toxic exes can stay.” – Charity (23:34-23:39)
• “One of them was a Meatball. How do you forget that name?” – Rachel (29:14-29:18)
• “There’s like three [one-on-one dates I regret]… Warwick, Brayden…” – Charity (31:37-31:44)
• “I don’t want to pick any more cards, please.” – Rachel (on the magician) (36:08-36:11)
• “More Bachelorette behind the scenes, and honestly, more of me and Rachel yapping each other's ears off.” – Charity (36:56-37:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• New Hosts Welcome: 02:01
• Charity’s Birthday Recap: 03:15
• Wedding Planning & 30s: 07:05
• Rachel’s Holiday & Perfect Match Story: 11:35
• Hot Takes on Next Bachelorette: 16:12
• Never Did I Ever Game: 27:08

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Tone & Takeaways

This episode brims with playful chemistry between Charity and Rachel, combining their Bachelor Nation bona fides, irreverent humor, and genuine life updates to set the stage for the new era of the podcast. Both showcase openness, self-deprecating wit, and deep franchise insight, promising future episodes full of real talk, behind-the-scenes gossip, and heart.

For anyone who hasn’t listened:
This episode is a must for Bachelor Nation fans—delivering a fast-paced, laugh-out-loud, and revealing look at what really happens on and off camera, plus an infectious enthusiasm for the future of the franchise.

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Transcript

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[Charity]

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Charity.

[Rachel]

And I'm Rachel. And we're your new host.

[Charity]

Yay. Literally, I couldn't even get it out. I'm like, say it.

[Rachel]

This is so crazy. This is the worst decision they've ever made.

[Charity]

No, but I'm so here for it.

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I'm here.

[Rachel]

But also the best.

[Charity]

No, literally, the best. Because first of all, let's just take a moment and we're. What are we giving? Let's. Let's give the viewers what we're giving. What are we giving?

[Rachel]

We are alpha blind for good.

[Charity]

For good.

[Rachel]

Defying gravity. We have water bottles. I have a green one. She has a pink one.

[Charity]

So I have her here with me always in spirit.

[Rachel]

And when we did Our test interview, I was wearing pink and she was wearing green.

[Charity]

So I showed up in green.

[Rachel]

It was written in the stars. My tarot cards told me it's meant to be Year of the Fire Horses. Serena said, and there's just a lot of energy.

[Charity]

We're taking off, baby. Listen. We're taking off. New things are coming, and we just have a whole new energy here. And I'm like, I'm just basking in it. I'm so happy to be doing this with you. Rachel. You don't understand. No one understands.

[Rachel]

I literally couldn't sleep last night because I'm so excited. We have so much to catch up on.

[Charity]

So much.

[Rachel]

Today is just going to be us catching up and spilling the tea. And immediately I need to know the tea. You just had a birthday in Vegas on new Year. Tell me.

[Charity]

First of all, you guys, I turned a milestone. It was my golden birthday. So I turned. I'm. I'm. Okay, I can say it now. 3, 0. On the 30th, I turned the big 30, which was crazy because I was so fearful of, like, I don't know, like, it just. I think, fear of the unknown. I'm very much an anxious person. And so I don't think I knew, like, really what to expect about 30s. But, like, literally everybody that I talked to, they were like, your 30s are going to be the best. Like, it's the best decade of your life. And I was like, okay, well, I do have something to look forward to. I just. Just with me, I'm like, I don't really know, like, how that's going to unfold, but when I say I had the best birthday celebration ever, like, I rarely do stuff for my birthday. I'm very, like, simple. Like, take me out to dinner, wine and dine me well, and take me back home. It's simple. But I had, like, literally half a bachelor nation with me. Please, let's moment of silence, because you guys know how that goes.

[Rachel]

I was literally following along. So parasocially, I was going to Rachel, to Charity, to Kat, to Jess. I'm like, what are my Sims doing right now? No, actually, what are they eating for dinner?

[Charity]

And you guys left us uncontrolled. So no one was on the sticks.

[Rachel]

And they literally, they released. And that's exactly what happened.

[Charity]

No, it was insane. But I will say, like, it was fun, I think. I didn't know. I was like, okay. Honestly, it's very hard. Again, like, I said to plan for my birthday. It's New Year's Eve. People are still, like, you know, spending time with their families, doing things for the holiday, still traveling is very, like, complicated. But literally, who was able to make it, Made it and made the most out of it, literally. Warwick. Warwick from my season, Sleepy Warwick.

[Rachel]

What is he doing here? I didn't know him and do were still friends.

[Charity]

No. So he, like, moved to New York last year, and they got, like, really close. So I'm telling you, it's like the New York people. Who's still here? Your good old pal Jeremy and Bailey.

[Rachel]

Oh, my God.

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[Rachel]

No, because I see. So I was supposed to go to Charity's birthday party. She was.

[Charity]

And I'm distraught. Let's not talk about it.

[Rachel]

No, I am so sad I couldn't make it. I just want to know the tea, like, what was happening, what you guys did.

[Charity]

Yeah, we, like. I mean, we. It's Vegas, so we tried to do our best not to sleep. Exactly. It's gonna stay there.

[Rachel]

At least you didn't get arrested.

[Charity]

No, never that. Hello. I do know how to conduct myself with a little bit of stuff.

[Rachel]

Did you guys get married? Little white Chapel.

[Charity]

Like, we thought about it. I did.

[Rachel]

I could totally see you.

[Charity]

Do. We thought about it. I was like, should we just do it and be iconic?

[Rachel]

First episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. Charity. I'm actually married. She's married.

[Charity]

Newsflash.

[Rachel]

We're starting rumors already.

[Charity]

Yeah, go ahead and let that be the teaser. She's married. I got married, we eloped in Vegas, and life is good. We're off to a great start.

[Rachel]

No, that's so iconic. My parents eloped in Vegas on New Year's Eve.

[Charity]

Wait, really?

[Rachel]

Yes. So fun, you guys. I love that if. Well, we'll talk about wedding planning, but.

[Charity]

Next year, we'll be married, so. Hello.

[Rachel]

Oh, my gosh. Your 30s are going to be getting married. 30s are just the hottest year ever.

[Charity]

I'm so excited for it, honestly, because I just know, like, I feel like a new energy has come over me. Like, I. I don't know. I'm hitting the ground running. Like, I just feel. I feel good. I feel good. I feel happy. I'm rejuvenated. It's like a reset. Like, we're starting over. Um. So, yeah, I am very excited for my 30s, and I know great things are going to be in store. Which one of these, being the host.

[Rachel]

Of Bachelor Happy Hour. Oh, my God. Wait, but for wedding planning, do you guys have anything, like, already set or what's going on with that?

[Charity]

So you guys know that I can't Talk about this.

[Rachel]

Can you give us a little tease?

[Charity]

Okay.

[Rachel]

Do you have the dress? How many dresses are you going to have? Are you going to do multiple or just the one?

[Charity]

I literally am going to do two more because there's going to be a, like, Nigerian, like, cultural component. So we're going to do like the whole get up in Nigerian headwear, like, truly from head to toe, which I'm so excited about that.

[Rachel]

Chills.

[Charity]

And the plan is for me to go to Nigeria this summer, hopefully. Like, I'm praying to God that I'm like, I can make it happen. Because Nigerian tailor, like, the people who tailor outfits, they are like, one of a kind. I'm not kidding. They, like, make everything. Like, it was like you were born in the outfit. So I'm like, I have to go over there. I need to have them, like, do all my measurements. I need to do it in person over there. Custom and like, correct. Very custom. So that's going to be that. And then with my reception dress, because it's. I guess I can tease it's destination. We're going to be feeling very warm and.

[Rachel]

Oh, my God.

[Charity]

Warm and sunny. And so I need to have something that's very like, okay, that's speaks to the location that we're at. And it's definitely going to give, like, opposite. I think my gown is very. It's beautiful. Like, I don't want to give too much away, but it's very, like, classic and just traditional. And me, like, it's. It's giving Barbie truly. But I want my reception to be like, okay, this is like the other side of charity that I'm fun, I'm playful, I'm sexy. Hello.

[Rachel]

Yeah, can't wait.

[Charity]

We have like, three.

[Rachel]

No, literally, I remember all of your rose ceremony dresses. Like, you can pull anything off. And the gal has, you know, Carrie Fetman, who does our job.

[Charity]

Come on out.

[Rachel]

And he would always say, he's like, charity was like, so easy to dress. I put her in a bag and she looked phenomenal, which was the opposite for me. I gave Carrie such a hard time. I'm like, carrie, we have to hide my boobs. We have to do this. And he's like, rachel, I don't know what to tell you. So I cannot wait to see this dress. If it's. Listen top your finale dress, which was.

[Charity]

Oh, it will. Oh, it. Absolutely. Without a doubt, yes, it's. It will give everything. Just know the wedding looks are going to be like, you're gonna be gagged. Gag is all I Can say, do.

[Rachel]

You guys have a wedding party? Like, are you doing bridesmaids and stuff?

[Charity]

So I wanted to kind of be reserved to, like, just family. I'm gonna have, like, obviously, like, friends and people that I'm close with. Like, you guys are gonna be able to, like, come in and, like, get ready with me, but, like, not a whole, like, traditional part. Like, I don't know. I think that's, like, the one decision where I'm, like, 12 bridesmaids is, like, an actual personal headache. I just really want to exactly have.

[Rachel]

The entirety of Zach season standing up there.

[Charity]

And the fact that you already know that is, like, a testament itself. I want to eliminate any personal headache. And not that the girls would give me a hard time. They would be understanding, but it's just not something I want to go through. Like, everyone's coming on the bachelorette trip. Don't you worry. Like, we will have a time. But in terms of the bridal party, it's just going to be like, family. So, yeah, I think I made the simplest, most best choice for that.

[Rachel]

I think. I love that it's kind of skewing that way now. More like traditional. Just family or having, like, no wedding party. Because, like, you guys are so close from Zach season. I've always been so jealous. Years go by, and you guys still do, like, so much together, and I never get to see my cast, which is so sad.

[Charity]

No, I know. It's, like, the one thing I think I am grateful for. I'm like, obviously, like, you know, I'm. I'm with Dot, and so we're not reflecting on Zach, but I'm like, we didn't get the guy, so we got great friendship out of this, which is, like, the best thing, honestly, the best thing. I should probably do a rose ceremony to, like, pick out. If I was to do bridesmaids to take out the girls like me stand out there, they would be like, f off Charity.

[Rachel]

Jesse Palmer walks out at the end, and he's like, I'm sorry, ladies. You will not be in Charity's bridal.

[Charity]

Party if you didn't make the cut or you didn't get to save the date. So sorry. We'll see you at the next one.

[Rachel]

Take a moment and say your goodbyes.

[Charity]

Imagine. Imagine. I cannot.

[Rachel]

Oh, my God.

[Charity]

Yeah, we have so much. Literally, like, it's going to be such a busy year, which I'm Like, I said, I'm locked and loaded, but I feel like we've chatted in a little bit too much about me. I Need to get into what we have going on with Ms. Rachel. Let's talk about it. What's up with you? How was the holidays for you?

[Rachel]

Holidays were great. Just went home to Florida. Very slow. I feel like you said it's like a fresh start to the year. I had an amazing new year. I sat in my apartment and I drank champagne, and I wrote my journal, which is literally what I do every year.

[Charity]

And it's so on brand.

[Rachel]

It's so on brand. I literally was like, this year was so hard. Like, I'm dripping tears onto the page so I could remember this forever.

[Charity]

Wait, Rachel. But why was it hard? Tell us more. Was it Perfect Match?

[Rachel]

Honestly, Perfect Match, which it's so crazy that I am here. We talked about this a little bit with Joe and Serena. When I did that, I truly thought the Bachelor would just never speak again.

[Charity]

You're an icon.

[Rachel]

No, I'm so happy to be here because even when I was on Netflix, I am just so proud of, you know, everything I've done with the Bachelor franchise. And unfortunately, I wasn't the only one there from the franchise, which, you know, made it a little difficult.

[Charity]

I actually still can't get over that. I will never get over it.

[Rachel]

And you know what? I can't either. Because when I was leaving, I thought there was no way there was another bachelor person there, let alone child, my ex. It was just crazy. And reliving everything was just. You know how it is.

[Charity]

Oh. Oh, I know. Difficult.

[Rachel]

And Netflix, they wait almost a year after you film, and then you're, like, living everything again. So all emotions are coming back up. And, I mean, I'm sure everyone saw me and Clayton going back and forth in the press. It wasn't.

[Charity]

I'm literally laughing.

[Rachel]

I know. So it was just a crazy year, but we are looking up this year. We have to look up.

[Charity]

You came out on top. You always come out on top. Do you understand that?

[Rachel]

I ride my way to that finish line. I swear I have a talent where I could just go completely under the radar, and I will find my way to the end.

[Charity]

You will. And I love that about you.

[Rachel]

And I. I got to eat crickets. I got to go out of my comfort Z. So, you know, maybe this year we go on, like, Fear Factor or something, maybe, and I can hone in on my new set of skills.

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[Charity]

Maybe. Listen, we'll manifest that for you. Yeah, I will. I'll manifest that for you. I am. I'm ready. I'm ready for everything that's coming for you specifically. Yeah.

[Rachel]

And speaking of what is coming, should we talk about Bachelorette?

[Charity]

Oh, right. Please hold on. I need a sip of water.

[Rachel]

No. And same because I need to know all your thoughts.

[Charity]

Oh, I have many and so do you and we're like the perfect people for this, which is great. Okay. Shall we?

[Rachel]

Yeah, It's. I mean first of all, this is a historical season because it's his first time oracle. They've taken almost like a celebrity. I would put her up there. Like, she's.

[Charity]

Oh, she.

[Rachel]

My mom knows who she is. That's like a household name at this point.

[Charity]

It is.

[Rachel]

As our lead, which I was.

[Charity]

It's kind of crazy. I don't even want to say I was shocked because I knew. Like, I knew something had to happen, but I was shocked. I'm not going to lie. When I was like, oh, this is. This is groundbreaking. Hello, do you hear? It is groundbreaking. Like, what is going to happen? But I think, like, once the news settled, I was like, wait, this actually might just be the best thing for the franchise, which I. Listen, we will be sad because we have no choice, but I'm sad because I am actually going to be so entertained by her season. I'm so excited that Taylor is literally going to be our Bachelorette or. She is not going to be. She is.

[Rachel]

And she's fully filmed. Like, she could be engaged right now.

[Charity]

And we have. I'm looking for every, like, little Easter eggs, like, in. In her content.

[Rachel]

Yes.

[Charity]

She's always doing something. I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to find some. Do you think that she's going to spoil her season? There's no way.

[Rachel]

You know what? I don't know.

[Charity]

I know we're like, I hope she does.

[Rachel]

I hope she does. I was going to say, this is so crazy because normally I don't think there has been a season where I didn't know the ending. Like, we hear so the grapevine, like, we hear so much. I don't know anything about this, which.

[Charity]

I think I love that because it's like, obviously, I mean, we're gonna watch, but it makes, like, the excitement for us because it's like, you can't predict. Like, you literally have to watch every single episode from start to finish to figure out, like, okay, this is maybe where she's headed. Maybe she took a different turn here. We don't know. We know nothing.

[Rachel]

I know. And you know what the thing about Taylor is? When I watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wife, she always surprises me every time. I was like, there's just no way. She just does something else. And she's going to bring that energy to this season. 1000 polarizing, 1000% are going to love her. They're going to hate her. It's going to be everything that you need, and she has it all.

[Charity]

Yes. Very, very dynamic contrast, which I feel like if I had to compare her to, like, already, like, a Bachelorette season I feel like her energy is very similar to Caitlyn. And I don't know, I love Caitlin, but, like, I feel like she's just. Caitlyn's someone who just plays literally by her own, like, playbook. Like, she doesn't follow anyone's blueprint. Like, I feel like Taylor is very much giving that same energy, if not more. And we clearly see it on Mormon Wives, so truly.

[Rachel]

No, I completely agree. I know that. I heard she spoke to Hannah Brown before. I could see there being a little bit of Hannah Brown in there. But I think everyone forgets the chaotic ness of Kaitlyn Bristowe season. By all, everything that was going on behind the scenes, I'm pretty sure she was, like, sneaking around, like, when the guys were out.

[Charity]

She was.

[Rachel]

And Taylor is going to be right behind her, and we need that golden age of the bear, like the Bachelor back, and she's going to give it.

[Charity]

Yes, exactly what I said. I was like, I hope that she gives us something that I feel like, at least for me, I definitely. I played the rules. I was like, I'm not gonna get in trouble. I'm like, I really do want to find my husband. And not that she doesn't want to find her husband. I know she will, or hopefully she will, but, like, for me, I played by the book. I feel like Jen played pretty much by the book, and now it's Taylor. So there has not really been, like, a Bachelorette that's like, okay, let me just do my own thing. And I feel like that's the mindset she came in to this with. And I just know it's going to be great tv. I'm. I'm literally so excited.

[Rachel]

I'm so excited. I completely agree, too. I think one of my downfalls as a lead was the fact that I took it so seriously.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

And I felt so, so much pressure, especially because Gabby was there as well, to just be a perfect lead and do everything right. And I think watching back, it's like, there's so many moments that people missed out on getting to know me because I was so afraid of that. And Taylor's coming in already. Like, this is who I am.

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

I'm gonna make mistakes. And I think, like, the sky's the limit for her at this point.

[Charity]

Right. I do think that that's going to be something that she hopefully uses to her advantage because I will say, like, as obviously we both been in the same position and like you said, I definitely came in like, okay, I can't. Kind of a little fearful of, like, messing up, but it's like, that is the point of the journey is like, you literally don't know what you're doing. You're figuring out. No one has ever done this. This is a very unique situation where you're dating this many men and having to, like, go on dates and have conversations. So I feel like, because she's already kind of had, you know, an experience with Mormon wives and mom talk, like, she. She already has that under her belt. It's just more so the environment, I think that'll be, like, bit different and challenging for her, but I feel like she'll be fine. And I hope that she does utilize that to her advantage, because, listen, I want to watch it.

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[Charity]

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[Rachel]

I was gonna ask you too. Do you think it's gonna be hard for her never having been on the other side?

[Charity]

Oh, actually, you know, that's actually really good because I didn't even think about. I'm like, we do kind of have that, like, empathy coming in because we were a contestant. It was like, oh, like, we don't want to hurt, you know, so and so, at least for me, I feel like we're empaths. So we're like, I don't want to hurt him or I don't want to hurt their feelings. And I feel like she might already have that in her, but I think maybe that. Maybe that might fuel her to be like, I don't care how you feel. And that might be great, but I think it might be harder for her for sure.

[Rachel]

I know it's so hard because I'm sure you've had this experience. Men would always come up to me and be like, well, you don't get it. Like, you don't know how you. Like I feel.

[Charity]

And I'm like, yes, I do. Yes, I do. I actually.

[Rachel]

You have to be patient. You have to. To give me, like, time to figure it out. I think we're gonna see that side of her where she's able to be empathetic. And not that she isn't a Mormon wise, but she's spicy on that.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

I think we're gonna get soft, Taylor. Yes.

[Charity]

Because she's gonna be by herself, too. She's not, like, in. She's not with her other girlfriends. Like, it's. This is her moment. She doesn't have to, like, maybe feel like she has to be a little bit superior to her castmates. Like, I feel like this is gonna be her time to, like, sink in and bask in her feminine. So we'll see. We'll see what that brings.

[Rachel]

But do you think Dakota is gonna show up? Listen, because I want that personally. Sorry, I know you do.

[Charity]

But I'm like for her say, because I, I am just healthy minded. I'm like, I don't want any extra.

[Rachel]

There's one of us that's engaged and it's not new. So let's see whose mindset is better right now.

[Charity]

I'm like, leave all the exes at home. The toxic exes can stay.

[Rachel]

And I love an ex.

[Charity]

You know what? And there we go. There's a difference. Love an ex and I love a man. So take your pick.

[Rachel]

Crying stop.

[Charity]

I feel like he would show up, but I hope he doesn't because I don't want him to like upset. I don't want him to derail her. Like we are on a path to success and the success is finding true love. So.

[Rachel]

No, truly. I was thinking.

[Charity]

But it would be chaotic.

[Rachel]

Yeah. No. And even like watching it back. I think the men do struggle watching you have other connections. Just. Yeah, the Bachelorette, these men, or I guess her fiance is now gonna have to watch back that season two seasons of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which is gonna be really about that, I think. But hopefully, you know, he is a strong guy. Cuz she needs a guy who's just not going to care.

[Charity]

Secure, secure.

[Rachel]

You know, weed him out early if he can't handle it. So that'll be interesting. There's so much at play for this upcoming season.

[Charity]

There's so much. We are so excited, honestly. Like, we have a. It's a matter of time before we're in front of our TVs with our glass of wine.

[Rachel]

Night one I cannot wait.

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[Charity]

Okay Rachel, I feel like we are just on a roll with our convers and they're been so good but I think we should, you know, spice things up with a little game. How are you feeling about that?

[Rachel]

I could not agree more. I think we should give a little behind the scenes tea from both of our seasons even though we're a little washed up now.

[Charity]

But it's all good.

[Rachel]

We still have so much to say so we're gonna. Gabe called. Never did I ever. Bachelorette Edition I'm gonna take turns reading a question and then spill the tea for my.

[Charity]

Okay, perfect.

[Rachel]

I'll start.

[Charity]

Start.

[Rachel]

Never did I ever. Yes or no. Forget a name mid convo.

[Charity]

Oh, I have.

[Rachel]

You have. Do you remember who it was or you still don't remember?

[Charity]

It was. It was night one. To be fair. Let's be very clear. I don't know anyone's names, not even my own. But I remember like asking. I forget who. Well, I won't say who. One of my producers. I was like, like who is this? And I had to ask like two times because there was just a lot of like also similar names. So it wasn't because I'm like, I wasn't into them. I think I just was. There was a lot going on. So mine is less like juicy. It's just more like I couldn't think.

[Rachel]

I mean, night one, Your brain is literally scrambled. I think people know now that we start like, at like, what, 8pm and we go to like 8am Correct non stop. So correct. That I'm functioning and having, like, a cell in my head is just, you know, that was an accomplishment for me. I feel like on my season, we went from like 32 to. I only had like 10 guys in, like, two episodes.

[Charity]

So way. That's crazy.

[Rachel]

So I feel like I knew everyone's name. I knew so much about them because we didn't ever. I didn't ever date 32 guys. I dated 10 and barely at that because half of them tried to leave. So, yes, I remembered the names. I was pretty good at the details. But I can't.

[Charity]

I'm literally crying because you are so funny, Charity.

[Rachel]

Literally. And one of them was a Meatball. How do you forget that name?

[Charity]

You cannot. I fear you can't.

[Rachel]

You truly can't. Like, you can't. I actually maybe didn't know Meatball's first name. I think I need a redo.

[Charity]

We need a redo. I'm gonna petition for a Rachel redo because, honestly, this is crazy.

[Rachel]

That's the last thing this world needs.

[Charity]

No, we need it.

[Rachel]

Absolute last thing. Okay, next question. I'm actually excited to see what you say about this one.

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[Charity]

Never did I ever. Oh, do you want me to read it?

[Rachel]

No. Yes, you go.

[Charity]

Okay. Never did I ever feel relief when a date got canceled or shortened. Please. Every single time. Every single time. Unless it was a date that I wanted to be on. Like, if my one on ones ever got canceled, I'd probably cry. But a group date. Let's hang it up. Let's wrap it up. Ready to get back in my bed?

[Rachel]

Yes. Group dates are hard.

[Charity]

I don't care. I don't care.

[Rachel]

I feel like on a group date, I was never really getting to know anyone. I was just watching them, like, make a fool of themselves and.

[Charity]

Yes, cheese.

[Rachel]

And, like, play games. But.

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[Charity]

Oh, my God. Well, yeah, now. Now I have to give a disclaimer.

[Rachel]

Wait, wait. Disclaim.

[Charity]

But the only good. Well, I can't even say the only good. My favorite group date of my season was Barbie Day, which I had the most fun on. So that one did not get shortened. And I did not want it to get shortened, but it almost did because of someone on my Season. But that's neither here nor there, actually. Like at the cocktail party. But that's neither here nor there.

[Rachel]

Did someone like get too drunk?

[Charity]

No, they just was. They're being.

[Rachel]

I'm sorry, I'm just curious.

[Charity]

Correct. Just being my man, Braden.

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[Rachel]

When they was getting.

[Charity]

I was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna take the rose back and I should have. That's like my one regret.

[Rachel]

I remember the Barbie group day, but I don't remember the Bardi. Like the after party. Was that when it was like.

[Charity]

That was. I think it was a cocktail party. Yeah, it was like literally the next day. Yeah, but that's neither here nor there. Like I said.

[Rachel]

I feel like that was the only drama of your season. Like you. It was everything. So cute.

[Charity]

Thank you. And you see the common denominator. It's always men.

[Rachel]

No, truly. Okay, next question. Okay. Never did I ever regret who I chose for a one on one, please. Did you?

[Charity]

Yeah.

[Rachel]

Was it Warwick?

[Charity]

There's like three.

[Rachel]

When he fell asleep on your date.

[Charity]

Warwick. Brayden.

[Rachel]

Brayden did get that one on one.

[Charity]

That was the little baseball date. Please. It's just actually enough. Oh, my God. Just to give a disclaimer. I literally do not hate Brayden. Like, I'm a great friends with him and he's married now to Christina. We love it. He just created a little bit of chaos on my season, which what would my season partially be without that? So we do love Brayden. But yeah, so that is just, you know, for me, looking back some moments that I don't think I personally was too proud of of myself. But hey, everything worked out how it was supposed to. Now Rachel, your turn. So I know, I know you do have some regrets. Let's talk about it.

[Rachel]

Regret who I chose? Well, you know, she's like, no, I have a lot of regret from my season. I think looking back, it was difficult though. Again, like, there's so much people don't know about me and Gabby season because normally you get two one on ones a week and a group date. But Gabby and I only got one.

[Charity]

A week because one date.

[Rachel]

One. One on one a week. So I only had a total of like five.

[Charity]

Your whole season.

[Rachel]

Yes. So looking back, it's.

[Charity]

I did not know that.

[Rachel]

Yes. I feel like I missed out on not only just going on dates with people, maybe on Gabby's side I could have gotten along with or guys that just missed out. And that's. I wish that we had more time for that. And it wasn't anyone's Fault. Like, me and Gabby were filming four dates in a week instead of three, so it was already overwhelming. But it's just hard because, I mean, I only got five dates and with only four people because Zach got two, so that's just.

[Charity]

Actually, I don't think I. Oh, my God.

[Rachel]

Yeah. That's the one thing I wish.

[Charity]

She actually does need a new season. This is insanity. She's like, no, I don't want it. Oh, my God, please.

[Rachel]

We all clearly know I'm not good at picking, so I don't think a second time around is going to help that at all. Clearly.

[Charity]

Listen, you mature and we learn.

[Rachel]

Yeah, I thought. I thought I learned. I thought I matured, and then I went on Perfect Match. That's how I know I did it.

[Charity]

I won't argue with you.

[Rachel]

Should we go to the next one?

[Charity]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Rachel]

Okay, let's do. Never did I ever secretly hope someone would step in and end the conversation.

[Charity]

I actually don't like that. Even if I don't like. Like, if I'm not even truly vibing. I need to see things out, start to finish. I hate being interrupted. I hate being rushed. Yeah, no.

[Rachel]

So did you hate when someone would be like, can I steal you for a sec?

[Charity]

I did, because. Well, I'm trying to. Yeah, actually, I did. I'm like, even like, conversations where I was like, no, I'm, like, ready to be done with. But, like, I just wanted it to conclude, like, naturally, organically, like, the. Okay, can I steal you? Like, I just be very scattered brain, and I'd be like, oh, like, you know, and then it's like, as like, elite, sometimes you're not really. You gotta let them kind of, like, have that conversation and just would be very awkward and weird. And I hate. I just hated it. So, no, like, let me, like, wrap up naturally, and then I'll come and grab. Or we'll do whatever we need to do.

[Rachel]

Charity, do you remember the moments when you'd be having a conversation and the guy trying to steal you would just stand there?

[Charity]

Literally, it's just like a figure. I'm like, please, like, can you scoot back?

[Rachel]

You have to pretend like you don't see them because you're trying to give your full attention to it is the worst thing. But there is a strange man just hovering.

[Charity]

It's a shadow. It's a shadow. I hated it so much. And I'm so bad because again, I get distracted easily. I'm like, oh, what's that? And then I'm like, oh, I See a man. He's coming in. What do I do? No, I can't. I hate it.

[Rachel]

No one teaches you how to navigate. It's so difficult.

[Charity]

No.

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[Charity]

Did you want that.

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[Rachel]

I feel like I just never really had the opportunity to be with a bunch of people that I wasn't, like, necessarily into because it just was all of a sudden a group of 10 that I really liked. So I feel like I always wanted to have those conversations. There was my night one, there was a magician.

[Charity]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel]

I remember there was a magician, and he sat down and he just kept doing these magic tricks. And I remember me and Gabby were, like, sitting together, and we didn't want to be, like, there at the same time. And that was the one conversation I remember. We were like, let's wrap it up. I don't want to pick any more cards, please. Like, let's go.

[Charity]

I need to go back and watch this tonight. I am.

[Rachel]

And the funniest thing, too. This is so. Side note. You know how we always eat the Listerine strips?

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

And they turn your tongue blue sometimes.

[Charity]

Yes.

[Rachel]

He's talking. He's doing a card trick, and he just looks at me and he goes, why is your mouth blue? And I'm like, I robi. Gotta call it.

[Charity]

We've overstayed our walk.

[Rachel]

We've overstayed. Yes, Absolutely.

[Charity]

I'm dead.

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[Charity]

I love this. I'm, like, learning so much about your season that I thought that I literally already knew.

[Rachel]

There are so many more questions I want to ask, Charity, and clearly, we just can't shut up. But we will be continuing this next week. We are so excited to officially be here and be your new hosts.

[Charity]

Yay. Because we just got through our first episode as your new host for Bachelor Happy Hour, we have so, so much more in store for the upcoming weeks. More Bachelorette behind the scenes, and honestly, more of me and Rachel yapping each other's ears off. And yours too. So, with that being said, without further ado, that's it for today's episode. Catch us next week. Be sure to subscribe. We'll have more episodes. And, Rachel, let's cheers our way out of here.

[Rachel]

Cheers.

[Charity]

Cheers. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.