Noah Erb: The ‘Bachelor Mansion Takeover’ Champion | Golden Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour: "Noah Erb: The ‘Bachelor Mansion Takeover’ Champion" (Golden Hour) — April 8, 2026
Hosted by Kathy and Susan | Guest: Noah Erb

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Episode Overview

In this "Golden Hour" edition, Kathy and Susan sit down with Noah Erb, Bachelor alum and winner of HGTV's "Bachelor Mansion Takeover." The conversation covers Noah's journey from the world of reality TV romance to his surprising win on a competitive home renovation show, with plenty of inside scoop on design drama, cast dynamics, and personal challenges along the way. Listeners are treated to a candid look at the realities of televised renovations and Noah’s heartfelt reflections on family and loss.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Introduction & Setting the Stage

• The finale of HGTV's "Bachelor Mansion Takeover" is airing the same night as the recording (02:09).
• Noah Erb, known for his season with Tayshia and Clare during the COVID Bubble, shares that this was his first time at the iconic Bachelor Mansion (03:44).

Noah’s Experience Entering the Mansion

• Uncertainty and Excitement:
  Noah explains the cast went in with little idea of the challenge’s scope—initially imagining a straightforward remodel, only to be overwhelmed by the complexity and unknowns.

  "We just kind of thought we're going to remodel a mansion… walking in, I instantly was like, okay, I don't know what this show is yet. No clue." (02:57-04:07)

• He notes the challenge is unlike anything he’s done even with his wife Abigail (“Abby”), as partnerships and time pressure amplify the stress.

  "It was so much harder than at my house with Abby doing the design." (05:17)

Design Dynamics and Cast Chemistry

• Different cast members brought diverse regional design sensibilities, leading to clashes and creative surprises.
• Debate over the infamous "gold arches" and other polarizing design choices became a recurring theme:

  "You can't put an arch in every spot, you know?" (08:08) "When we watch, we'll see what makes it on the episode... I basically erased everything that Stone and Alicia did.… ripped all Joan's arches out…" (08:59)

• The challenge of group decision-making was central:

  "We're working with five other people to try to convince them. And we have one hour to select, you know, go through 60 items." (05:13)

Inside Stories & Notable Moments

• Gold Arches Drama:
  The tale of Joan (dubbed “Joan of Arc”) wanting arches everywhere becomes a running joke.
• Cast Standouts:
  • Courtney’s Arizona style vs. Sam’s North Carolina influences.
  • Brendan, the painter, is praised for practical skills and should have stayed longer, whereas Alicia and Joan are pinpointed as a problematic pair (21:12-21:53).

Behind-the-Scenes of “Bachelor Mansion Takeover”

• The pressure cooker environment included sudden eliminations by cast vote and last-second redos of key rooms.

  "The producers would come in and say, alright, you guys have an hour to send someone home. And the producers would leave... so stuff like that." (23:09-23:22)

• Noah’s Design Philosophy:
  Three words: "Moody, functional, calm."

  "I might not be the most technical designer, but I can sell vibes..." (19:13)
  He valued simplifying spaces and letting bold pieces stand out.

• Kitchen Renovation Highlights:

  • All Z Line appliances, custom panels, and an estimated $300,000 value ("prettiest kitchen I’ve ever been in"). (15:33-15:58)
  • Noah prefers practical decisions, citing real-life renovation mishaps and solutions with Abby at home.

• Trends Noah Loves/Hates:

  • Loves: Color drenching and painted trim matching the wall (“a few shades off”).
  • Hates: Standard white trim and outdated gray color schemes.

  "I don't think you—we—should have ever painted our trim white. Somebody made a mistake with that." (20:15)

Personal Stories & Emotional Moments

• Family and Loss:
  Noah reveals that midway through filming, his mother was diagnosed with a severe illness. He considered leaving but stayed, motivated by her encouragement.

  "I'm talking to her and she's saying everything's okay, but I'm like, you know different.…I don't know my mom will be able to watch this." (24:22-24:39)

  • His victory and the show were intertwined with this personal journey:

    "Best news in my life. Worst news of my life. At the same time, you know, my mom is…my mom passed in October... it was still, like, trying. I'm trying to figure this out on a TV show." (25:54-26:08)

• Renovation as Therapy:
  • Grew up with a big family, working with his hands, and now enjoys collaborating with Abby on their home (27:00-27:14).

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Listener Q&A: Renovations Edition (33:15)

• Paint Disaster Solutions:
  Courtney asks about regretting a bold green wall color.

  "If you're going to take the time to do all the work…you might as well change it to something you like because it's not going anywhere and you don't want to be in a highlighted room if you hate it." (34:28-34:47)

• DIY Refresh vs. Full Renovation:

  "At the point where you don't have a plan, where you've started it, it becomes a full renovation." (35:22-35:25)

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Rapid Fire: Home Renovation Preferences (36:34)

Noah's takes on renovation choices:

• Open floor plan vs. defined rooms:
  Open for small homes, defined for bigger spaces (36:55-37:08)
• White kitchen vs. bold cabinets:
  Prefer white cabinets, bold counters (37:15-37:29)
• Marble vs. butcher block countertops:
  Marble for longevity, butcher block can harbor bacteria (37:32-37:48)
• Demo day vs. final reveal:
  "I love a demo day…Saves me so much money. It's the most fun I've ever had. I normally drink a little tequila." (37:54-38:06)
• Budget vs. splurge:
  Splurge if it’s your forever home, budget elsewhere (38:11-38:31)
• Farmhouse vs. modern stainless sink:
  Modern stainless for the attachments (38:41-38:54)
• Neutral vs. statement colors:
  "Keep things mostly neutral. And then have a couple statement…" (39:06)
• Vintage/thrift vs. new:
  "Huge sucker for vintage…we buy things off marketplace and they're so cool, they're made better.” (39:34-39:46)
• Wallpaper vs. paint:
  "Almost got divorced…doing wallpaper…so I'm gonna go…" (39:56-40:07)
• Smart home vs. old school fixtures:
  Loves Alexa and Lutron for lighting, skeptical on very expensive high-tech systems (40:18-41:07)
• Fixer upper vs. move-in ready:
  "I'm a fixer upper all day" (41:20-41:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You can't put an arch in every spot, you know?" — Noah (08:08)
• "I might not be the most technical designer, but I can sell vibes." — Noah (19:13)
• "Best news in my life. Worst news of my life. At the same time, you know, my mom is…and my mom passed in October…" — Noah (25:54)
• "If you're going to take the time...you might as well change it to something you like." — Noah (34:28)
• "At the point where you don't have a plan... it becomes a full renovation." — Noah (35:22)
• “I love a demo day… I normally drink a little tequila. Bring on a demo day.” — Noah (37:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:08] — Taping the night of the "Bachelor Mansion Takeover" finale, intro of Noah
• [03:44] — Noah’s first time at the Bachelor Mansion
• [05:13] — Design challenges and group dynamics
• [08:08] — Gold arches debate & design drama
• [15:33] — Kitchen renovation details and upgrade costs
• [19:13] — Noah's design style
• [20:12] — Trends Noah loves and dislikes
• [21:12] — Who should have stayed/left on the show
• [23:09] — Show mechanics: eliminations, producer involvement
• [24:22] — Personal hardship: Noah's mother’s illness and impact on mindset
• [27:00] — Origin of Noah’s renovation passion
• [33:26] — Listener Q&A: paint regrets and DIY definitions
• [36:34] — Rapid-fire renovation choices

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Conclusion

This episode offers a fun, genuine blend of renovation insights, cast camaraderie, and intimate glimpses into Noah's personal and professional growth. Noah’s charm, self-deprecation, and emotional transparency shine as he reflects on remodeling under pressure—and under the strain of family loss. He leaves listeners with both practical advice and heart, making this a can’t-miss for fans of reality TV, home design, and Bachelor Nation alike.

Find Noah Erb on IG: @noah_erb
For more behind-the-scenes: @BachelorHappyHour | @BachelorNation

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Transcript

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[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. I'm Kathy.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

And I'm Susan and thank you all so much for joining us again. We are recording this on April 6th.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

You know what that means, Susan?

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

What does that mean?

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

The Easter Bunny came yesterday. And more importantly, the finale of HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover airs tonight.

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Tonight.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay. So Susan, I'm so excited. Today we are joined by Bachelor alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion take winner Noah Erb. Congrats Noah and welcome to the podcast.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

How you doing ladies?

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Hi Noah.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

We're so super stoked to be here and thank you.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'm super excited to talk about this show. Finale is airing. Shoot. What day is it?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

In 15 minutes.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

This comes out on Wednesday So, yeah.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Are you pumped or what?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I really am. This show is so crazy to me

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

because I really didn't know what it was. No, I don't think anyone really did. We just kind of thought we're going to remodel mansion, and, you know, so

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

now to get to be able to

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

watch it all back and my family.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

So wait, before we get into this, Noah, I just want everyone to hear, because before we start recording, you so graciously offered to share your winnings with Susan and me, and I just. That's sweet. I think you are just the sweetest. And Abby, the four of us couldn't be happier.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I'm a lover, and I'm so glad that we could all do this together.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

My wife's not gonna go for any of this, and I already spent all the money, so she's got it already.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I need to find another guy to try to get it from. It's gonna be me.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

All right. I've tried.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

So it's to my understanding that you didn't go to the Mansion before. This was your first time, right?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Yeah. So let's take it to the beginning.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So my season was Taisha, Claire, Covid, Bubble.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Never got to see the Mansion. I was kind of bummed about that. But this time, coming in, you know,

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

you hear about the mansion, but you

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

don't really know what it looks like because TV is hard to tell. You know, they put the cameras in certain spots and there's certain areas you never see. You know, we're remodeling bedrooms that you really never see. And it's like, so walking in, I instantly was like, okay, I don't know what the show is yet. No clue.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

But the fact that we get to

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

even do anything is really cool to

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

me because over the last couple years,

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

me and my wife, you know, have been doing this pretty much non stop and stuff like that. So it's like, this is right up my alley.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

So which is harder? Which is harder, Noah? Doing the mansion or doing your house with Abby? Because I. I follow you on Instagram and watch your videos. You guys have done a lot to your place.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Thank you.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

You think I'm silly enough to say

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

it's hard to work with Abby on a podcast? Come on.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

No, Abby and I, we have a good team. I actually told Abby I'd, you know, we.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'd talk to her at night and I'd say, you would be so good

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

at this show, but you would hate

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

this show because there's so many elements of it that it would Been super easy, but we're working with five other people to try to convince them.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And we have one hour to select, you know, go through 60 items.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And it's like it was a completely different animal to where it's like, it was so much harder than at my house with Abby doing the design.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

At your house, did you have anything that was non negotiable that you had to have that Abigail was feeling different about?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Well, I'm still working on my golf

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

simulator in the garage that I'm saying

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

is for our kids.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

So I put a loft in.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

But, no, I'm a pretty easy. I, you know, I come from the icu.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Like, I don't fight over a lot of things. I'm pretty easy unless it's a terrible idea. Like, yeah, that works for me.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

There's only a couple things where I'm

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

like, that's not gonna cut it. And that's kind of how we started was she'd give me options. And now it's to the point her design is better than mine. You know, it's like, I don't.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

She'll give me some options.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

One or two, like, do like this, and I'll say my opinion, but, you know, it's completely different.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Now, when you say design, Noah, when you say design, do you mean she'll say, do you like this fabric or that fabric better, or do you like this wall being moved here or that wall being moved there?

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

The pink color.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So this is. This is where I took things from home and put it on the show. It was no different from me trying

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

to convince Joan we can't do a

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

gold arch over the pool, you know,

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

to the entry, it's like, well, we'll

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

come back to that.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

There's certain things that you can't do. So when it comes to the construction

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

side, Abby kind of let's, you know,

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'll steer her and what is actually realistic, because I'm the one doing it or I'm help. Somebody's hired, you know.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay, I'm sorry. The gold arch over the pool. Who.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Who had the worst taste of the cast? And you got to be honest.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Oh, we're getting into it. Yes.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

We want the down and dirty.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So I don't know. I think it's hard to say. So for me, it's hard for me

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

to say who's the worst taste because everyone's from a different part of the country.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And like, you showed me a picture earlier from Arizona.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Courtney's style in Arizona is completely different from Sam's style in North Carolina and Oklahoma is. You know, people have their things, but,

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

you know, then you have Chris from

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

New York, and it's like everyone had their own style, like, where they're from.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Oddly enough, the girls, all the designers had the most. Like, I could pick a magazine, any magazine that, you know, it's going to

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

have some sort of gold feature, like, predictable style patterns, and that's what it would turn out. So it was like, I don't think anyone was bad in their own right. It was just predictable style from all the designers of the house. You know, the ones that were smearing it in our face that they're the best designers and we're idiots. And, like, you know, it's me and

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Dean sitting there, like, rubbing.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Rubbing foreheads, like, okay, design, buddy, design, you know, but everyone had good design in their own right. It's just people were stuck to, like,

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

what they knew, I think.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And that's. You can't really hold it against them, but you can't put an arch in every. Every spot, you know?

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Wait, who wanted to put arches in? Everybody talk. Who talk to us about the gold arches. If we're. Unless we're getting hamburgers here. I want to know what really happened.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

McDonald's.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

That's what I was thinking.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

All right, we'll keep it brief.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

We'll keep it brief.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

All okay. I. I agreed a lot with, you

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

know, at the bar, I wanted arches because they match the arches of the house, and it's like, okay, cool. But then, you know, what's her. Let's. It's Joan. You know, it's. It's Joan.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

It's our golden.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Furthermore, it's Joan of Arc.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I don't know if you know that.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It's medieval time, so Joan of Arc

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

would put an arch everywhere, everywhere, when it, you know, there shouldn't be an arch.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So actually, when we watch, we'll see

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

what makes it on the episode. But. And I wasn't trying to intentionally do this, truthfully, but I basically, I got to redo the main mixer room that all six of us did before, and it turned into a disaster because it's six people doing different areas, you know, the same room. So I got to redo that room, and I didn't do it intentionally, but I basically erased everything that Stone and Alicia did.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I knocked down Alicia's wall, let the light, ripped all Jones arches out, you know.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Wait, pause. I need to know. When you say redo a room, are you talking about the decor, like, the added pillows or the things or the walls and the furniture for.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So this episode, the finale, there.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

There's a few things. One, the mixer room didn't look good. There's a few rooms in the house

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

where, like, maybe it was circumstances. Maybe.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Can I just say, Noah, if. If home renovation doesn't work out for you, you have a great future in politics. Let.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I hope it doesn't come to that, to be honest, but there are rooms. That bachelor was like, hey, we're also trying to.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

You know, we were doing this for Taylor, Frankie, Paul, who was coming at the end of the season at the time.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So we're all like, okay, it's got to look good for tfp.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Everything from tfp.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And then they're like, hey, this doesn't look good.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

So, Sam, me, and Tammy got to redo a few spaces, and that was like, make or break for me because it was the biggest room. So I got to redo the paint, the style of it. I redid my credenza, and I basically, in my mind, was thinking, I'm just gonna do everything Nate Berkus said.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I love that.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Who's gonna. Who's gonna tell me and Nate Burkus

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

that were wrong if we both are saying the same thing?

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Did you just throw them out? Discard them? Everything they did.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I knocked down Alicia's wall. Get some more light into the. From the kitchen. Put it back to a bookshelf.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I got rid of Joan's mailbox because.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I'm sorry. Mailbox?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Well, there was one in the mixer room.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

What is this? Sending letters to Santa Claus?

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[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Since the day we met.

[Podcast Host (Serving Pancakes)]

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[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

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[Podcast Host (Serving Pancakes)]

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[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

If they redid this show, which I'm

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

like, dude, let's do a different mansion

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

at another celebrity's house. Get different casts, pull some other people on. Like, let's get crazy with it, you know?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Yeah, but having fun is fun because you've like Joan people were, they didn't

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

like how Joan and Alicia got along. They were A little aggressive for them. They banded together, like, even if they weren't on the same team. But Joan has been around for, you know, she's owned a few houses. She's been around for a little bit of time, and she's got money. So she's by default, knows pretty good style.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It's like, of course you can at

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

least, you know, Joan's not going to build a bunch of stuff where Joan messed up. And she got too. A little too aggressive and cocky with some of the, you know, other people and it.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

But it's like you could hop on. It's like you could have good style.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

You know, you can add your piece because there's. We're working together. So it's. Towards the end was just me and Tammy to finish the kitchen, and that was different because it's like I have the whole kitchen.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Oh, my goodness.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I don't.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Oh, my goodness. I want to know, does the damn dishwasher work? That's what I want to know. Does the dishwasher.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Oh, let me shout out. Let's see. Let me shout out Z line really quick. We have all zone Z line appliances. The fridge is panel ready.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

So there's. It all matches the cabinet.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Oh, nice.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'm.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I'm not.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I didn't get to add everything up, you know, in my head, but if I was a. If I was subbing that out, I would say that's like a $300,000 kitchen.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Wow.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

How much it would cost. It's so pretty. It's the prettiest kitchen I've ever been in.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I can't wait. I got to tune in.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Yeah, we got to go back and see. I got to tell you. No, I'm in the process right now of having stuff done to my house. Tom. They're ripping out my bathroom floor and putting a new floor, and I'm. I. I've put all new hardwoods upstairs. This is Kathy's version of living in hell. I don't want to do it. I don't want to live through it. I just want.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Oh, my God. She's been complaining.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Kathy, you happen to be talking to a good listener. Let me tell you something.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Part of when I left the ICU to.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I didn't leave the icu, but when I stopped working in the hospital last few years ago, I was like, what else is going to replace that? You know? Trauma icu.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Yeah.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I have a passion now for, like, construction and helping people like you. You just knowing a few things or even just so you don't get Ripped

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

off or just so it's a good job.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Or it's like you can do little

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

things that can increase your life, your house, make it all better. And it's not that hard, you know, These panels behind me were $75 to make from Lowe's.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It's like somebody like you, it's like, I think it's great, you know, peek your head in there. Don't be that annoying.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Karen. That's telling people what to do. But it's good, you know?

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Trust me. I do not. The only thing I did was after they laid the hardwoods, the one thing I said was I didn't want, like, there's a lot to remodeling houses. I said I didn't want, like a. Where the floor meets the bathroom. The hardwood. I didn't want. I did not want a piece of transition. I said, bring that wood right up to. They didn't. So guess who's ripping out some hardwoods next week?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And they have to redo it, and they should.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Our kitchen was the same thing.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

We redid it twice. Because I'm a loving man. That's the only way I can put it. I was a yes man at the time. Newly married. I'm not saying no, but we redid

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

it twice and had to match because

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

we did tile and had to match our hardwoods with the rest of the house. And they're hand scraped. They're beautiful.

[Podcast Host (Serving Pancakes)]

Yeah.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

So we had to rip out, you know, do some crazy stuff to try

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

to get it all level because I

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

don't want to when I'm sliding around with my socks on.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

That's right. I do not want to splinter. I do not want to live my life.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I don't want to stub my toe.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I'm with you. All right, so, Noah, I want to know what. You're definitely not the golden arches guy. What is if you had.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I just took down the arches. I used to have them in the kitchen going into the dining room.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I'm an arch guy because I put arches in my kitchen. But you got to be particular about them. That's all I'm saying.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Not every entry, not every entry needs a hamburger. I got it. Okay. What is your personal design style in three words?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Moody, functional, and let's call it calm.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I like that. Juicy moody.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Yeah.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So I'm on.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I'm lighting. Are you talking about lighting?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Well, just like, I like the vibe and the feeling of I don't have

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

all the technical design. I could get into the technicalities, I guess, but for me, I hope they show this.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

When I walked the judges through the

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

mixer room, I said, listen, because Tyler

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

made fun of me. Like, are you good without Abby?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And I'm like, listen, I might not be the most technical designer, but I can sell vibes, and I got to walk them through the mixer room and show. So I kind of like that style

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

to feel the feeling you want.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Yeah.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

If you want it to be calm,

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'm like, okay, let's add some sort of stone, darker wood. It's like. And then make the cool, fun stuff. Be a fancy rug or something that's just kind of subtle, but not. I don't like all tons of stuff, right?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

What?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Doing the mixer room, I didn't add anything. I took stuff out because there was way too much. I like things simple and then, like, the bold pieces to speak for themselves.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

You can come do my house. You and Abby can come do my house anytime you want.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Come on now.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

All right, so what's a home trend? I mean, seriously, I'm. I'm up to my neck in this home renovation now. What's a home trend you love that's current? And what is one that just needs to go by the wayside? Aside from marches immediately in general, I think.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I think color drenching is coming back.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I don't think you. We should have ever painted our trim white. Somebody made a mistake with that.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

We need gray. Gray is over.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I think if you're going to do trim, it needs to be a few shades off.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Color of whatever paint you're using on the wall, just so it kind of all blends in. I don't like the stark, so I think.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Hold on. I'm about to paint my wood trim around the wood trim around the windows.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

This is bathrooms. I feel like. I feel like window casings are different.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Window casings are different because then you can. You know, it's a window, but okay. Crown molding and baseboards, and I just. I'm not a fan. And then one, I think to get out. Oh, I guess that was two. You know, I insert it both.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

So do you have anybody in mind when I ask you who you think should have stayed longer and who you think should have left earlier from the show?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I think Brendan probably should have stayed longer because Brendan was, like, our painter. So, like, that's why me and Brendan were the ones that were the team behind team the Tuscany room, you know, the green kind of room. And he knows, like, general contracting stuff. So I think he. He saved me. Then he went home. But I think he is Somebody that should have stayed longer and somebody that

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

should have went home.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Let's see.

[Podcast Host (Serving Pancakes)]

I know.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

You don't have to say.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I really do. No, I think. I think Alicia and Joan, because they

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

were so banded together, they got themselves.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

They both should not have made it far.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

That was like. Everyone was kind of like, okay, we gotta split them up. So I think them as a couple shouldn't have made it as far as they did.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

And Hoodie, what was the hardest part for you? Getting everybody else's opinions? Or, like, what did you find difficult?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I mean, that is very hard.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

In my mind, I was thinking, okay,

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

if I can combine, like, treating this whole show like a general contractor, where, like, Sam's a. Or Sam is a builder, Brendan's a painter.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Like, they all have their own strengths.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Dean, let him go wild on something, hope it's cool. And it's like, treat it like that in the hospital. So, like, that was something that is hard to do because I would, in real life, never have to do that, because everyone's opinion is equal. But it's also, like, that was something that I finally kind of. I felt like I did well. And what was the second part of your question?

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

What was the hardest part of the show for you?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

The hardest part. There's a couple. There was a couple elements. There were a couple elements of this

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

show that were very difficult. And then I had some external life parts, which. I don't know if that's going to show tonight or not, but we can get into that, too. So it was like, there were elements of the show that everything just switched.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

You know, we would. They would.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

The producers would come in and say, all right, you guys have an hour to send someone home. And the producers would leave.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I hated that part.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And we'd be like, wait, like, there's not even anyone in here making sure.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Like, we have to vote in an hour anyways.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So stuff like that.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Or.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Okay, challenge. A challenge.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Loser goes home, Winner gets to have immunity. It's like, oh, okay.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And then about midway through of the show, my mom had.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I knew she was having some sort of health issues before. She had an ultrasound that showed some hot spots and stuff. And she was coming over and doing the song and everything before I left. And then about midway through that show, I got a call. Ct, actually. So I. And I know how to understand CT reports. And, you know, and it was pretty much me reading this, thinking, okay, this is. This is not even what I thought it was. You know, this is past that point. Like this. I. I debated going Home, you know,

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

and you don't know what's going on at home.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

But she's got the whole family, you know, we've got 20 nieces or 20 grandkids. She has. So it's like she's surrounded, you know?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Yeah.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

11 kids, so she's surrounded. But I. I was struggling because I'm talking to her and she's saying everything's okay, but I'm like, you know, different. I know you're gonna die. You know, I. I said that in the interview. Like, I don't know my mom will be able to watch this. And it's like.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So there were.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

There were those things where it's like, okay, that's tough. I'm either. I either need to do this or not. You know, I am having fun, but it's like. So once I kind of decided, like, okay, mom doesn't want me to come home. I'm just.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

And there was nothing you could do to change it, so.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

No, exactly.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

No, it was.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And she didn't. She had her own wishes. And I'm like, however, I can use the money to help go do whatever treatments or whatever you want to do, whatever you think is going to give you peace. Because I, you know, I've. I've had the fortunate and unfortunate situation of seeing a lot of people die just from my career. And it's like, you need to make sure people have autonomy and peace. And it's like, if I can do that. And she was like, you know, win the show. You can win the show. Yes, dude, I'm gonna win the show.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

You know, that kind of, like, switch. That was, like, a pivotal switch.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'm like, dude, I'm going to win this show. And, you know, I don't even care. We'll see what happens.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So it was a crazy show because it was something, you know, HGTV is

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

something I've always wanted to do. I talked about it, you know, when I was in nursing school. I'm like, yeah, you guys see me on hgtv? I don't know when, but you will.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It's like, to get a bachelor HGTV show.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Best news in my life.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Perfect, right?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Worst news of my life.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

At the same time, you know, my mom is, you know, and my mom passed in October, so we got. Got time with her, and I got to take care of her. And it was a beautiful moment, but it was still, like, trying. I'm trying to figure this out on a TV show.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Yeah.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

That I'm also trying to renovate and do interviews and like, not cry in my interviews. And Joan and Alicia are pissing me

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

off, and it's like, you know, and Dean tried to send me home. I'm like, this is. I. You know, I. I would always think, like, I would love to do this

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

show again, not having all this stuff going on.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

But then I'm like, like, thinking about it. I probably wouldn't have won or had

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

the drive to win, you know, and it's like, okay, oddly enough, it all worked out in it.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

But I have a question. Have you always been into this? Even during your career in the hospital, have you always enjoyed doing home renovations?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I love working with my hands. I like.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I like being challenged. We used my parents, you know, 11 kids, homeschool family. We worked. They used most of us, you know,

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

like, we would work growing up doing, you know, stuff.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

They would drop us off at a house, and we would work, you know, stuff like that.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And then I kept up.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

You know, when I was 21, I bought my first house and did, you know, worked on it and so you enjoy it, though?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Yeah, I love it.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And now it's something I get to do with my wife, and it's like. And she loves it, and she's taken design classes, and I'm like, Like, this is all better than I. For sure.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I see a future show.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

A future show. I think. I think, no, you're gonna have to run. If. If your wife comes to you, Abby comes to you and says, I think I want to put in a lot of arches. You might want to rethink.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

She's not a arch person. I had to convince her for the two. We have, like, a half kind of arch.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

She's not an arch person, and she knows how to use a hammer. So I'm. Arches aren't safe around here.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

You got to be careful. Well, I think it's great that you and I'm sure your mom was thrilled that you stayed, you know, for the end of the show, and. A tough one. Yeah, a tough deal. But she.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I. I wish she would have got

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

to watch it, obviously. But I did get to come home with, you know, I stole the briefcase of money. They should. They give us a briefcase of money. I put that on my flight.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

It's in Tulsa. Obviously, I'm keeping that. So I walked home with a silver.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Like, Howie Mandel had a briefcase of money.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Briefcase number one. Number two.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Yeah.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And it was also good because I'm

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

like, I got to be like, order your supplements.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Order whatever things you're doing.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Because it's like, this is why.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Anyways, yeah, you're an amazing.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It was. It was awesome how it all worked out.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

That is awesome.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Wow.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

At what point did Joan leave? It was fairly earlier.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Joan and Alicia left at the mixer room challenge, where.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Oh, the girls versus the guys.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Yeah.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay. And then they both left.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And then it goes into me doing the mixer.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Sam.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

We called it Sam Torini.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

He did the Santorini room and redid that. And Tammy got her own entry that hadn't been done. And then the winner of that. That or the loser of that one goes home. The winners, you know, duel in the kitchen, and it's like, it didn't slow down. That's why I. All my friends, you know, told me the show, they're like, we didn't even know what we were watching, but we

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

loved was like, dude, same for me. I'm watching it.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'm like, wait, I actually love this show. It's. It's actually pretty hilarious. Like, this is great.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So, all in all, fantastic experience for me, you know?

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Well, if you get your own show, decorating or building or reside, do not forget your small friends over here.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

There's nothing small about us guys.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I never forget the little people.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

You know that.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

We're not little, we're not small, and we're not quiet.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

And I would. I'd like the record to show. I would love my own show. I'm trying to get Abby convinced. So let's all convince Abby comment on her Instagram. She doesn't have to do anything. Just let me be the idiot.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And she just makes fun of me and laughs like we do in real life.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Yes, we can help her with that.

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[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

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[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

All right, well we need your help here though, because every week we answer some questions and this is our Renault edition, so we're hoping that you might have some thoughts here.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay, I need help because I think I've made a huge mistake. I painted my living Room this fun, bold green that looked amazing in the sample, but now that it's on all four walls, it literally looks like a highlighter exploded in my apartment. I keep telling myself to trust the process, but it's been a week and I still hate it. Is there a way to tone it down without fully repainting, or is this one of those situations where I just have to accept defeat and start over? Courtney. Thanks, Courtney.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Hi, Courtney.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Thank you for tuning in to Delilah. I'm going to take this from the top.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I gotta say, we were in that same situation on this show.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Sand painted. It was supposed to be a moody green. It was Yoda green, and it didn't look good.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I'm not dissing Sherwin Williams.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

They were great sponsors. It wasn't a good paint selection. And you know what, you can try to tone it down. But if in my mind, if you're going to take the time to do all the work because you have four walls there, you might as well change it to something you like because it's not going anywhere and you don't want to be in a highlighted room if you hate it.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

So, Courtney, call me up.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'll drop my email later.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Me and my wife will be over

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

there soon for our first episode of Noah and Abby take on Renault.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Thanks for tuning in.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

In other words, start over, Courtney,

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

or call no one happy. Either way. It works either way.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

But I do have a question. When does a simple do it yourself refresh officially become a full renovation?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

At the point where you don't have

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

a plan, where you've started it, it

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

becomes a full Renault renovation.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

If you started something and you didn't have a plan and it grew and it got out of hand, you see how that rhyme.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Story of my life. You do one little thing and now

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

the whole room has to renovation.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

It's better to take a step back and let do the parts you can and hire somebody because you're. You need a new house at that point. Yeah.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

So, Kathy, when we get our beach house, are you going to let me decorate or are you going to hire?

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

No, I'm calling Noah and Abby. They're going to do it for free as advertisement for the new show.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

They're going to have 3.99. If I get a bed in one

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

of the rooms, that's how

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

this has been so much fun. Answering the. Having your expertise here. Noah, you can submit your burning questions to us and Noah by going to bachelor nation.com golden hour and come back each week and see if we answer yours. Because if it has to do with decorating, the answer is always golden arches. All right, so we have time. We have time. We're gonna. We're gonna do a game here. What do you say, Susan?

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Renovation, Rapid fire. You ready? This is a game where you pick this or that. Okay. When it comes to home reservations, is

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

this secretly one of your houses and you're trying to just get me to design?

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay, I'll go first. First open floor plan or defined rooms?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I think it depends on how big the house is. But if you have a small house, open it up because it'll make it feel bigger. If you have the space, make them defined and make them more intentional. I think it goes a lot further.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay. White kitchen or bold color cabinets?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It just.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I think a white kitchen is. I think a white kitchen is fine. If you're gonna do.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Because we go white kitchen and do bold counter.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Anything else?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Let's just leave the cabinets.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Not bold. Let those just be functional.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Marble countertops or butcher block.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Oof. Marble. I think butcher block.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

It's.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It's cool.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

It'll get old, right?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It does get old. It wears down.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Marble can stain, and it can be a hassle, but it's stone. Butcher block actually can kind of harbor bacteria too.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Yeah.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay. Demo day or final reveal? What do you like better?

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I love a demo day.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I put my uncle no.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

No hat on, and I just go crazy. It saves me so much money. It's the most fun I've ever had. I normally drink a little tequila. Bring on a demo day. Yay.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Budget friendly or luxury Splurge?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I think it depends on where.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

What kind of house that is to you. If it's some. A house, you think you're going to be there for 10 years plus splurge a little bit, budget for it, and then splurge on a couple things. We just bought our first fancy rug the other day. You know, I'm 31. First time. I hope to have it 10 years. It was worth the splurge.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

All right, I'm. I'm jumping around here because these are things I. I need answered. Farmhouse. A farmhouse sink or a modern stainless sink.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Oh, man. I think now the modern stainless sinks

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

have all these attachments that are amazing, and they're so worth it.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

You can cutting boards, draining.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Yeah, they make all sorts of attachments. It's worth it. You can still make it not look too space. Shippy.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Neutral tones or statements, colors.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I. Oh, you got to combine those.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

That's.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

That's the.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

That's the secret sauce.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Keep it all.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Keep things mostly neutral. And then have a couple statement shout out to Courtney's fireplace. It looks a lot better after I change the paint and knock down Alicia's. You know, that's his place. It's his thing.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Let me just say. No, you might need a bodyguard after Alicia and Joe. Listen to this. Okay, how about this one? Because some of these are my favorites. Vintage, thrifted, or brand new. I bet you like a mix.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I'm a. I'm a huge sucker. Look at me.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Look at this shirt. I'm a huge sucker for vintage.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

We actually, unless it's a great brand,

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

we buy things off marketplace and they're

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

so cool, they're made better.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Refinish it. Do whatever. Pay somebody to refinish it. We love thrifting stuff that's high quality wallpaper or paint.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Abby and I almost got.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Got divorced before we were even. Actually, I think we just got married. We almost got divorced from doing wallpaper because it's the worst thing I've ever done in my life. So I'm gonna go.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Thank God. Me too. I'm right there with it. Okay, what about this? I struggle with this. Smart home tech or old school fixtures?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Personally, I get that people don't like the smart home tech.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And you think it's weird. You think the government's watching you and it's giving me.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

My house is linked to Alexa. My light switches are Lutron.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I haven't. This finger hasn't touched a light switch in two years.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Why about.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

Hey, Alexa, turn off the light.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It wasn't crazy expensive.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And it's like the greatest thing I've ever done.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Okay, but what about the iPad? Things that are on the wall? That stuff I have. I'm talking about the really high tech stuff for you.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Some of it's on the front of the refrigerator. Right.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It's like I don't think all that's worth it because it costs so much. If you're talking about higher end than what I was just talking about, I don't think that's all worth it because

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

it costs so much to get it repaired. Yeah. All those systems are so expensive to get.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

My Alexa's name is Ziggy. I changed her name.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Yeah.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Turns every light on, dims them. I love it. I love it. I don't even want to ask you this one. Fixer upper or move in. Ready.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

I'm a fixer upper all day.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

I knew that.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I like. Yeah, I like a lady that could

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

use a little bit of work. Not Abby. Abby was Perfect.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Obviously not that late, but a little

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

bit of work and I got it. I got it figured out.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

You know, I'm curious. How long do you guys think you'll stay in the house you're in? Because you spent, you told me, like, two years doing it. Right.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

I think we're going to be here a long time. We're going to have kids, hopefully. You know, I would love to start

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

having, you know, kids is here, and we want, you know, a few kids

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

here till the house.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Wait, do you want to break. Wait, do you want to break the news?

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[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

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[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Abby?

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

No.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

No, she's not.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Did she. Do you know something? I don't know.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Just trying to start a rumor there, Noah.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

No, one more. I think we're going to be here for a long time. We want it. We have this little vision that we

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

walk around our house that we did everything to.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

It looks really nice.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And we tell our kids that, and it's just cool.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

And you're completely done now. Everything you wanted to do is finished.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Yeah.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Never, never, never finished.

[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

We are doing the yard. Abby's getting a new bathroom. We're doing the yard finally, because we spend tons of time.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And then my garage, because I'm obviously gaslighting into her, letting me garage simulator.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

So here's the.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Here's the deal on that.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Really, here's the deal. Houses are never finished. Friendships are never finished. But this podcast, unfortunately, is finished. And we just want to thank you, Noah, for joining us on Bachelor Golden Hour. Where can our listeners follow you if they aren't already so they can see

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[Noah Erb (Bachelor Alum and HGTV Bachelor Mansion Takeover Winner)]

Very smooth. You, Kathy, Way to set that up. You can find me at Noah Underscore herb.

[Hoodie (Noah's Nickname, likely Noah himself or close to him)]

And I think Abby is the same. It's her last name, first and last name. We're doing tons of fun stuff. This is, like, what we love to do. So this has been great. Thanks for having me on.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Absolutely. I think I'm going to tune in. I might get ideas from this guy. And make sure to rate, review and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

And you can follow us on social media at BachelorHappyHour and Bachelor Nation.

[Susan (Co-host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

See you next time.

[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

Have a good week.

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[Kathy (Host of Bachelor Happy Hour)]

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