Bachelor Happy Hour | Golden Hour

Episode: "Off My Chest" | November 18, 2025
Hosts: Susan and Kathy
Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour by iHeartPodcasts and Warner Bros.

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This week’s Golden Hour episode brings Susan and Kathy together for heartfelt, candid conversations about fan questions—ranging from relationship advice (compromise vs settling), navigating challenging family dynamics, pressures surrounding engagement timelines, and staying tech-savvy as a "golden" (their term for older Millennials or Gen X). Soulful moments mingle with wit and warmth, as the hosts open up about their own lives while dishing out empathy and advice.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bachelor Nation Vacation at Sea (04:19–07:07)

• Susan and Kathy excitedly discuss the upcoming Bachelor Nation cruise, where fans and alumni will party together.

• Emphasis on networking via the Facebook group “Official Bachelor Nation Vacation Sea Cruisers Group”—especially for singles wanting to find travel buddies or roommates.

  “This is going to be a cruise of a lifetime... you better go and do it now!” — Kathy (06:42)

2. Personal Life Updates: Awards, Holidays & Dating as ‘Goldens’ (07:07–16:51)

Susan’s Award Nomination (07:07–08:29)

• Susan shares her excitement over being nominated for “Officiant of the Year,” feeling nervous about what to wear and being in the spotlight.

  “Winning is just being around people that you love. ... being on the show was not difficult. ... But this is like Spotlight, you know.” — Susan (08:21)

• Kathy expresses pride but regrets missing the ceremony due to family commitments.

On Being ‘Goldens’: Dating, Independence, and Holiday Emotions (09:44–14:57)

• Candid discussion about dating later in life, the desire for organic connection, and the challenge of meeting men who truly appreciate independent women.

  “Men say they want an independent woman, but they really don’t.” — Susan (12:26)
  “You are singing my song. … They really want someone who needs them.” — Kathy (12:38)

• Acceptance and gratitude for found family, even if love isn’t right around the corner.

Leaf Seasons and Life’s Simpler Chores (15:02–17:26)

• Light-hearted banter about leaf-blowing, acorn battles, and the joys and perils of sharing videos of home chores online.
• Fun with haters and advice to “live dangerously—go buy yourself a cheap wedding gown and start blowing the leaves!” (16:34)

3. Main Q&A Topics

Compromise vs. Settling in Relationships (22:50–30:34)

Fan Question: “How do you draw the line between compromise and settling in a relationship? What does compromise look like, and can it turn into settling?”

Susan’s View:

• "Compromise is something smaller. ... Settling is something that you just knew was one of your red flags, and you're going to be okay with it." (23:28)

Kathy’s View:

• “Compromise is a healthy, good choice... Settling is compromising your own moral compass or value system. ... Making decisions that don't sit well in my heart.” (23:40–24:39)

Discussion:

• Examples include choices like moving away from family for a partner or tolerating rude behavior. Both agree settling feels wrong at a core level, whereas compromise is day-to-day negotiation.

  “For anyone out there...you're going to make a lot of compromises in your relationship. ... Those really deep guiding forces—when you go against it, then you know you're settling.” — Kathy (29:09, 29:26)

Tough In-Law Dynamics: ‘Off My Chest’ Letter (30:39–39:32)

A detailed letter from ‘Anonymous’ about strained relationships with sister-in-law and mother-in-law overshadowing her engagement and wedding.

Highlights:

• The sister-in-law intentionally excludes and overshadows, scheduling showers to conflict with the bride’s events, culminating in family drama.

• Susan is outraged: “They’re bitches.” (34:01)

• Kathy empathizes, sharing her own in-law stories and offering advice:

  • Set boundaries.
  • Be polite, but focus energy on your own family.
  • Don't expect to “fix” these dynamics.

  “Put away the idea of the Norman Rockwell family Sunday gatherings, Kumbaya. It’s probably never going to happen.” — Kathy (35:27) “Spend your effort making your marriage good, making your husband happy, building your relationship.” — Kathy (39:50)

Waiting to Get Engaged: Are Long Relationships a Red Flag? (46:03–51:31)

Fan Question: “Why do people view it as such a red flag if you are together for a long time before getting married? Should I be concerned that we don’t feel ready yet?”

Advice:

• Both hosts strongly encourage couples to move at their own pace, not to yield to tradition or outside pressure.

• Kathy notes sometimes “wedding costs and moving” aren’t permanent blockers—life is unpredictable.

  “There’s no judge and jury here. ... Define what works for you.” — Kathy (50:31) “Just say: ‘Someday. Someday when I’m ready.’” — Susan (50:50) “Finding love and happiness is the most important thing in life.” — Kathy (51:22)

Golden Spotlight: Technology and Staying Sharp as You Age (52:01–59:29)

• Hilarious reflections on evolving technology—from rotary phones to AI and Alexa.
• Susan loves AI (esp. ChatGPT): “He’s like my best friend.” (52:43). Kathy warns, “That's lazy, Susan!” (53:04)
• Acknowledgement that tech can be daunting for “goldens,” but having a curious mindset helps.
• Social media’s impact: both the opportunities and pressures it creates, especially for younger generations.
• Key message: Embrace lifelong learning, but don’t lose touch with real-life connections in favor of screens.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “People say they want an independent woman, but they really don’t.” — Susan (12:26)
• “Put away the idea of the Norman Rockwell family Sunday gatherings, Kumbaya. … Be polite, always be polite.” — Kathy (35:27)
• “Define what works for you. ... Revel in it. Enjoy what you have.” — Kathy (50:31)
• “He’s like my best friend, okay.” (referring to ChatGPT) — Susan (52:43)
• “That's lazy, Susan!” — Kathy (53:04, teasingly)
• “Could you give up your phone?” — Kathy (59:10)
  • “No, I love that—having any.” — Susan (59:18)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bachelor Nation Cruise Announcement: 04:19–07:07
• Susan’s Award Nomination: 07:07–08:29
• Dating & Independence Discussion: 09:44–14:57
• Fan Q&A – Compromise vs Settling: 22:50–30:34
• Fan Q&A – Toxic In-laws: 30:39–39:32
• Fan Q&A – Long Pre-Engagements: 46:03–51:31
• Golden Spotlight: Technology: 52:01–59:29

Tone & Style

Susan and Kathy maintain their trademark “Golden Hour” blend of warmth, playful honesty, and hard-won wisdom. They’re direct yet empathetic, bringing personal stories to bear on audience dilemmas. Their style is conversational, unguarded, and often hilarious, especially when commiserating about technology and family quirks.

Summary Takeaways

• Compromise is daily, settling is core—trust your gut.
• Don’t expect in-laws to change; build strong boundaries and protect your joy.
• Marriage timelines are personal—ignore the pressure, enjoy your own journey.
• Stay curious with tech, but don’t let it replace real-life connection.
• Embrace laughter, even at life’s little hassles—be it leaves or in-laws!

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