Kathy (2:34)

I remember.

Parisa (2:35)

Yeah. And I was just like, oh, my gosh. Wow. From Chicago. Okay. And when I also. When I met him that next week, I also had a girls trip planned with Seraphina, Dina, and Latia. We were going to Go to Chicago and stay with Dina. And I was like, oh, this is a weird timing. So I'm just meeting him now in Miami and I'm like, I'm going to be in your city next week. Um, and so it. It was easier. You know, when you first meet someone, you just like, it's kind of nerve wracking to plan, like, the next time you see them. It was really nice to have, like, to be with my girls at that time and just set it up of like, oh, just meet us out. Meet us out for drinks after dinner. And so, yeah, I mean, it was.

Susan (3:23)

Is he from Chicago, like, originally or.

Parisa (3:25)

Yeah.

Susan (3:26)

Okay.

Parisa (3:27)

Yeah.

Kathy (3:27)

So how is moving. How has it been for you, moving to Chicago?

Parisa (3:31)

Oh, yeah. So I moved in at the end of October, like November, and it's been amazing. I love this city so much.

Kathy (3:39)

And even the winter,

Parisa (3:42)

not bad actually. You would think because I'm from Michigan. You would think, like, oh, it's the same. It's not the same. It is so much colder and windier and the wind makes it much colder than what it actually is.

Susan (3:55)

Yes, yes, yes.

Kathy (3:56)

What is. Has that been the hardest adjustment?

Susan (3:58)

Yeah, I was just gonna say, what's the biggest adjustment?

Kathy (4:01)

The weather.

Parisa (4:02)

Yeah, I think the wind making everything, like, you have to wrap your face when you walk. I've never wrapped my face before in the winter.

Susan (4:11)

You better. You better. Your lips will freeze.

Parisa (4:14)

Yeah, so, yeah, that's been the hardest part.

Susan (4:18)

So what do you see yourself for long term? Living in Chicago or you just wanted to try it out or.

Parisa (4:25)

Yeah, I grew up coming here a lot, so I'm really familiar. I've always loved the city, but, yeah, definitely see myself here long term.

Kathy (4:33)

Wow.

Susan (4:33)

So tell us about your first date in Chicago.

Parisa (4:37)

Oh, so the first date, I guess you would say, like, so he had his guy friends and I had my girlfriends and I. I like that. I feel like that's a really fun first date state where it's just like, there's no pressure and, you know, you get to know each other in that group setting. And so again, there's no pressure for a conversation. You know, it's just like very natural. And then after that, we planned a more formal one on one date after we both saw, like, okay, like, this is kind of nice. Like, we definitely are interested.

Susan (5:14)

Level.

Parisa (5:15)

Yeah. Interest in each other. And so, yeah, immediately after it was that same night we planned, like, oh, when can we see each other again?

Kathy (5:23)

Wow.

Susan (5:23)

And what did you do then? Did you do dinner or.

Parisa (5:26)

Yes, we did dinner at this really nice Restaurant in the city. Oh, my gosh. The name, I think it's called, like, Tre Dita. And it's just like, all windows overlooking the city, very romantic, dim lighting.

Kathy (5:43)

So wait, I gotta back up. Did you guys spend the holidays together? I know, I've followed you on Instagram. You guys have been doing some fabulous trips.

Parisa (5:51)

Yes. Yeah, we've been traveling a lot, but we did not spend the holidays together. We were both with our families for the holidays.

Kathy (5:58)

Have they met each other? Have you met families?

Parisa (6:00)

I met his family because they live here. Oh. Actually, he met my dad. And when my dad came and helped me move, he met my dad. But the rest of my family, since they don't live here, that is. That's planned for later.

Susan (6:16)

Yeah, you have to plan that exactly. Exactly.

Parisa (6:20)

Yeah.

Susan (6:20)

What does he love? The critters. Like, you like the critters?

Parisa (6:24)

You know, so funny. So we always. We love to have, like, when we have date nights, we love to, like, be really, like, spend these date nights asking each other questions. Like, we're all about, like, awareness when it comes to, like, like our own, like, personal awareness and then our emotional awareness and then, like, joint, like, as a couple. And so we found these really fun accounts. Grammar. Like, you can ask your partner, like, what's three things that surprised you about myself? And like, so, like, we'll always go through these questions. One of them was that with me having my interest in, you know, in critters, and he said he's definitely never, definitely never thought he would ever date someone who enjoyed those kind of things or, you know, like, kind of like the camping type, like, living in the wilderness. Yeah. And he never thought about that. And he's not really interpreters himself, but he would always tell me, you know, like, the fact that I'm so interested and I. This is something that makes me so happy that it's something that, like, he wants to learn more about and, like, share that.

Kathy (7:37)

Well, I want to get back favorite color.

Susan (7:40)

I'm sorry, I have to know.

Kathy (7:41)

Oh, who's the color girl?

Parisa (7:43)

Oh, do you know, I've never asked him. I was so traumatized by that whole thing that I don't even care to ask. I don't want to ask anyone.

Kathy (7:51)

But I got to say, I want to say to you, though, that is one thing. When I met you on paradise and, you know, I think the world of you. I think you are a lovely human being. And. And you are a girl, a woman who likes to ask questions, who wants to get deep. And I love the fact it sounds like he's right there with you on that.

Parisa (8:10)

Yeah, that's one thing. It really stands out about him and the initiation he takes with, like, asking these questions to get to know me, but then. But really to get to know me, like, deep in here of, like, how I.

Susan (8:25)

How you think.

Parisa (8:26)

My thought process. Yeah. How I think of things and like, our communication styles and all of that. So it's. We definitely. We have really. I don't. Like, just our time together, it just feels very, like, connected.

Kathy (8:40)

And I love that because that's something.

Parisa (8:44)

Oh, yes, we have.

Kathy (8:45)

Wait a second. Is this. Is there a future? Is this guy. Is this the guy?

Susan (8:49)

Is he the one?

Kathy (8:50)

Is he your guy? No one's listening, Paris. So you can be honest.

Susan (8:55)

It's just.

Parisa (8:57)

I just like, I can't. I don't know why. I'm like, you know, I'm very superstitious. I never want to jinx anything and I ever want to be the type of, like, this is amazing. This, you know, best thing ever. This is it. Because you just never know. You really. You never know. But I mean, this definitely, it is so different. And I feel like you. Everything happens for a reason. Like, you have to go through so much in order to learn about, like, what you want in your life and what you don't want and, like, what makes you happy in order for you to. To, like, just know, like, when you meet that person, it's like, oh, wow. Like, this is what I've been looking for. And so, yes, I definitely feel like we are there, you know, in that category.

Kathy (9:39)

Would you move in? Would you move in with him?

Parisa (9:42)

We talked about that too.

Susan (9:44)

Yeah, you have talked about it.

Parisa (9:45)

Yeah. Like, so, like, that would be like the next step.

Susan (9:50)

Did you sign a year's lease?

Parisa (9:52)

Yeah. Yeah, I signed a one year lease.

Susan (9:54)

So we gotta wait till fall. Yeah, yeah.

Parisa (9:56)

And that's okay. Cause it's just like, I like that I like not rushing anything and like, when the timing aligns, then, like, kind of checking in and like, okay, like, is this, you know.

Kathy (10:08)

Oh, I like. It sounds very measured. I like this. It's. You seem like you have a great connection with him, but you guys talk. It's measured. You're. You feel comfortable, cared for. All the things that you want to hear in a relationship.

Parisa (10:21)

Oh, yeah, no, it's great, actually. I'll share one thing that I've been loving that we do. We do shared notes on the Notes app and we'll have, like. Because we just. We hold each other accountable when it comes like, to, like, our personal life and professional life. And one thing that I. I love doing with him is we share our, like, New Year's resolutions with each other. So, like, I have my New Year's resolution on our shared list.

Susan (10:46)

Whoa, there's a list there.

Parisa (10:48)

There's a list. And, like, we just, like, we keep each other, like, in the loop of these things, and then we have the Bold 10 list under it of, like, things that we need to do this year to put us, like, outside of our comfort zone. And, like, yeah, like, so we just have that there. And then I just. I like these kind of things. Like, just.

Susan (11:13)

Is it, like a bucket list when

Parisa (11:15)

it comes to, like, things that we want to. Or just goals we want to reach in our. In our lives? And, like, I feel like your partner is. And your. Your partner should be, like, your number one supporter in your life and your cheerleader. And it's just. I feel like it's so good to have them involved in all of that.

Kathy (11:36)

What does he do, Parisa? I'm curious, because he sounds very. Like he has a very high EQ like you do. What does he do?

Parisa (11:45)

He owns his own. His own real estate company here in Chicago.

Susan (11:51)

Ah, a thing. Buying a house. He'll know what to do. Yeah.

Kathy (11:57)

Oh, yeah.

Parisa (11:58)

He's really. Yeah. He helped me find my place here. So if anyone in Chicago needs real estate.

Kathy (12:03)

Wow.

Susan (12:03)

Are you in the city?

Kathy (12:04)

Local.

Susan (12:05)

I mean, proper city.

Parisa (12:07)

Yes. Yeah, I'm in, like, the West Loop area in Chicago.

Kathy (12:13)

So has he met any of your Bachelor Nation friends, girls?

Parisa (12:17)

Yeah. Yes, he met all of them.

Susan (12:19)

On that first date?

Parisa (12:21)

Yeah, on that first date. You know what's so funny, too? So we had that. That night out. Then all of us girls, we go to this really nice cafe for brunch. The next morning, he's at the same cafe with his mom.

Susan (12:33)

Oh. Huh.

Parisa (12:35)

It was. It was. So I'm like. I look over. I'm like, guys, no one look, but that's.

Susan (12:40)

There he is.

Parisa (12:41)

And at first, too, we saw the back of the woman. I thought it was. He was on a date. A brunch date.

Susan (12:47)

Yeah.

Parisa (12:47)

I'm like, oh. And then we saw when she. No, I think that is his mama. That must be his mom. And then everyone looks. And then. Yeah, he then saw us and he walked over. It was just. It was weird. It was a weird coincidence that we were all at the same place, but it was.

Kathy (13:03)

It sounds magical to me that it doesn't

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Susan (14:05)

What about Brian? Do tell. Are you friends? Do you communicate at all? Or is it Cut ties and.

Parisa (14:13)

No.

Susan (14:13)

Yeah, that's it.

Parisa (14:15)

Yeah.

Susan (14:15)

Benito.

Parisa (14:17)

Yeah, I. I had a lot of moments when we were there in paradise where, you know, like, you get those gut moments, and, like, as a woman, you never want to listen to your gut, but then you always know you should have listened to it, and it's just always like you have in those times. You're just like, no, this is different. This is different. It was.

Susan (14:38)

It wasn't different because you want it to work. I think our intuition is on point always.

Kathy (14:44)

Yeah.

Parisa (14:45)

Yeah.

Susan (14:45)

We fight it sometimes, but I could.

Kathy (14:47)

I honestly can say, look, being with you in paradise, you look so calm. Your whole demeanor is like you. You look confident and comfortable, so I love seeing that.

Parisa (14:58)

Oh, thank you.

Kathy (14:59)

But speaking of Bachelor paradise, who are you still really good friends with from Bachelor Nation? Who are your besties?

Parisa (15:06)

So Alex comes a lot to Chicago because Andrew lives here, Right. Andrew actually lives around the corner from my boyfriend, which it's so, like, we definitely. We've been hanging out a lot when she's here, and it's been fun. We just had Andrew's birthday a few weeks ago, and so then that was a good time. Just all of us celebrating together.

Kathy (15:28)

Yeah.

Parisa (15:28)

And then Alicia as well. Alicia is going to come here for St. Patrick's Day. It'll be. It's my first time in Chicago for St. Patrick's Day, so I feel like it'll be a really fun weekend with the Green river and.

Kathy (15:42)

Yeah, you know, how fun.

Susan (15:45)

Yeah.

Parisa (15:46)

But.

Susan (15:46)

So a question for you. Would you ever go back to reality TV if asked?

Parisa (15:54)

I was. I always think about that. I think I would now if it was a new show around what I do as, like, for my career. So something like if there was a show similar to, like, love on the spectrum dating, like, individuals on the spectrum dating, because that's with my field. I'm a behavior therapist, and I. I would love to join my fields with just dating and, like, communication and dating, coping skills and, like, emotional regulation, all associated with dating. I feel like that would be a lot of fun.

Kathy (16:40)

Have you got anything planned for 2026? What. What are you working on? I. I'm assuming when you moved to Chicago, you took your job with you, right?

Parisa (16:49)

Yes. Yeah, I'm actually so a couple things, but to bounce off that, I actually am finishing writing a book right now about mixing so my world with, like, applied behavior analysis, the science of human behavior. I am colliding that world with dating. And this. I'm actually almost done. And that's kind of been. I started this, actually, after my season on the Bachelor with Grant season, and it just. It kept, like, evolving as I just. As I continued experiencing new things with dating and testing these theories in my field on dating and, like, reinforcing the behaviors that I want to see in my relationships. So all of that kind of came from my experience and as well as, like, my. My friends, too. Like, I'm kind of, like, getting. Interviewing them and getting their take on their experiences with dating. But, yeah, like, that's my big thing right now for this year.

Kathy (18:01)

Do you have an editor? I mean, is this going forward? Are you.

Parisa (18:04)

Oh, yeah, yeah. Right now, I'm on the part with just, like, adding in my friends and their experiences and tying it in with each chapter. But basically, it's. It's going to explain why so many women, including myself, get stuck chasing avoidant men, or why mixed signals start to feel very addictive in relationships and then, like, anxious attachment, how that can get reinforced over time without us even realizing it. So, like, the main point of the book is just going to teach the readers how to stop reinforcing what you don't want in a relationship and to start reinforcing secure and healthy behaviors instead.

Kathy (18:51)

Wow. Good for you, Parisa. Wow. I want to read it. I want. I want a copy when it comes out.

Susan (18:57)

Yes, absolutely.

Parisa (18:59)

I actually, like, I wanted to touch on one thing that you were saying. You always told me. This always stuck with me when you told me, you know, because I feel like a lot of us women have always experienced a guy telling us that we're too much, and that had that stuck with me because, you know, you can't help but feel so shut down when someone's just like, you need to stop. You're too much. You're being too much. Like, you can't help but, like, crumble inside. But, yeah, I'll never forget. And you were like, no, honey, I'm not too much. You're just not enough.

Kathy (19:32)

Yeah, I'm glad you remembered that, because you know what, Priest? Honestly, as you know, I'm pretty gregarious and outgoing and all that, and I get that from men. And so never forget that. I have to tell myself that, you know, no, I'm not too much. You're just not enough for me. And so I'm glad you remembered that because that's a good. That's a good axiom to. To. To live by.

Parisa (19:55)

Absolutely. Yeah. And it's. I wanted to tie all that in. It's just like that. We don't want to reinforce that in a relationship.

Kathy (20:05)

Well, feel free to dedicate the book to me. Parisa, I really. I can't. I cannot say, though it seems like your life now is. It's. It's calm, it's. You seem very interested in this guy. He's taking you on some amazing trips. When I talked to you, I can't remember where he took you. Was it Canada? Banff or something? Whistler.

Parisa (20:29)

Whistler.

Kathy (20:30)

Yeah. I was. You were like. Because you always said you like to travel every weekend, remember?

Parisa (20:36)

Yep. Especially in the summertime. Just having always. And even something that's, like, you know, local or close, you know, to your, like, your city. But, yeah, that trip was so incredible that he planned. And then he even planned, like, this huge hike, knowing that this trail would take us through, like, all these different terrains and all the critters I would be exposed to. It was amazing.

Kathy (21:02)

That's a great guy right there.

Susan (21:03)

To plan anything.

Kathy (21:06)

Do you plan dates? Does he plan them? Who does most of the date planning?

Parisa (21:10)

We both do. We definitely. Yeah, we both do. And then we also know we both love surprises, so we're always, like, sneaking in surprises here and there. It's like. It's nice to, like, have that, like, same love language.

Susan (21:22)

Yeah, it is. I was just going to say, do you know your love language? What would yours be and what is his?

Parisa (21:28)

I. So, for me, I just, like. I definitely. Like, we were talking about this, too. Like, we hit all of the love language. All the love languages. But for me, it's definitely quality time and physical touch.

Susan (21:43)

That's me. Yeah.

Parisa (21:44)

Yeah.

Kathy (21:45)

I would say. I would say you. Gift giving from you.

Parisa (21:49)

Oh, gift giving, too, for sure. Sometimes I can't even hold in the surprise.

Susan (21:55)

Yeah, but your love language is what you. How you feel love. What she likes to do is not her love language. In other words, it's what you feel loved.

Parisa (22:09)

Also from his side, too. Yeah.

Kathy (22:14)

Wait a minute. We. I get confused on this every time. When I asked. When you asked them what their love language is, is it what they receive or give? Susan. Which is what.

Susan (22:26)

What they feel they receive.

Kathy (22:28)

Okay, so when I said to you, prisa, I'm sorry, I screwed up, then I. Because I always think of what my love language is to give. But you're saying it's to receive.

Susan (22:40)

It's what you feel, how you feel loved. When somebody does.

Kathy (22:44)

Okay, yeah, whatever.

Susan (22:46)

How about him? Does he.

Parisa (22:48)

Oh, yeah, his. I think his are exact the same. He loves the quality time. We're both. And we both are. We talked about, like, words of affirmation, like, of course we both love.

Susan (23:03)

Like, we always saying beautiful things.

Parisa (23:05)

Yeah. And acknowledge. Yeah. All of that. But we're really big on, like, we always say, like, love is. We like to look at, like, love as a verb. And so it's like all, like, the actions. So it is. Of course, it's like, you know, it's important to see. Speak that language and like, compliment and. But the actions always need to be there, too. Or those words just kind of, you know, they'll feel empty over time.

Susan (23:30)

How long has it been? How long have you been dating?

Kathy (23:32)

Since November, you said, Right.

Parisa (23:34)

Yeah. That's when we really became. We became like, official after the summer.

Susan (23:40)

Okay.

Parisa (23:41)

Yeah.

Kathy (23:42)

Because you met him right after paradise.

Parisa (23:45)

I actually, I met him before paradise.

Kathy (23:47)

That's right. That's right. That's right. Yes, you did.

Susan (23:49)

Yeah.

Parisa (23:50)

And I. I met him before and at that time, too, it was. I knew I was leaving and he knew, like, all me and like the girls that we were all talking about that with him. And it was one of those things, like, I left. It was. Yeah. Like a month later. So I never. I only saw him like twice.

Kathy (24:08)

Did you call him when you got back from Paradise? I can't remember what you said.

Parisa (24:13)

I. I texted him when I was back back, and I kind of like just left it how it was because it was just so sticky with everything.

Kathy (24:25)

Yeah.

Parisa (24:25)

Going back from paradise. And like, he knew that, too. He knew, like, he's familiar with the show and he knew everything. Like, you know, what to expect. And I just thought, you know what? Like, if anything happens, I'm not the type. I'm not going to wait for him to message me or to make a move. Like the Ball was always going to be in my court because I was the one who left and I had just all of that going on. So that was going to be my thing of, like telling him later on, like, if something worked or didn't work or if I wanted to see him again.

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Kathy (25:55)

We've got a couple of questions because you are so wise, Parisa. So we have a few quick advice questions for you. What advice do you have to any woman that is single right now? What advice would you give? And I'm one of them.

Parisa (26:10)

My advice, I feel like you just, you can't have any expectations or plans. You really have to let go and just go with it and see where things. Just see how things develop with someone with going on dates. One thing that really helped me, I go in on the date viewing it as at least let's make a friendship out of this and just take off. Take out all the expectations and all the pressure. And I feel like if you live in the moment and you're having fun, your true self will show and like that person will really get to know you for who you are and not that pressured version. And yeah, like, I just, I feel like you'll make dating feel a little bit easier on yourself if you just take that approach

Susan (26:59)

and not judge a book by its cover or by a picture or that's.

Kathy (27:03)

Stop looking at me when you said those things, Susan.

Susan (27:05)

It's difficult.

Parisa (27:07)

Yeah.

Susan (27:07)

How about what would you tell someone who's going on the Bachelor for the very first time? Welcome to our world. What advice would you give them?

Parisa (27:18)

My advice very almost like similar just trying to be yourself. Like living in the moment and you cannot think ahead and plan like the next. Like assuming how the next Conversation is going to go or prepare for that conversation. Like, you really can't. Like, you have to just go with it. And it's almost like, you know, like, you know who you are, you know your values, you know your interests. So, like, let go in the moment and let, like, that muscle memory just take over, you know, once it's being authentic.

Susan (27:52)

Yeah, yeah.

Parisa (27:53)

Like, when it. When it starts to feel forced and, like, scripted, then it's just like, that's not your true self.

Kathy (27:59)

I just have to say, though, everybody. Susan, do you agree? Every person, we ask this question a lot about what. What, you know, what advice you have for people going to the Bachelor. I think pretty much everyone. Correct me if I'm wrong. Susan. Everyone says, be yourself. And Susan and I, of course, are always ourselves. But it doesn't. You know, I'm not sure that in the world of the Bachelor, I'm not sure being yourself in that little bubble, in that short period of time, someone really gets to know the real you,

Susan (28:34)

even though you are being yourself because the time together.

Parisa (28:37)

Yeah, I know. That's when it gets tough. That's when I kind of. It gets hard because you don't have that much time, so you have to make the best of it.

Kathy (28:47)

Right?

Parisa (28:48)

But I've. From what I've seen, though, like, it's always those little moments that are, like, off camera where that, like, you both get to see who that person is

Susan (29:00)

and you hang on to that, Right?

Parisa (29:02)

Yeah.

Kathy (29:02)

Either that or throw it off. Yeah.

Parisa (29:05)

Yeah. But I know. And it's. It's hard. It for sure is, because I think a lot of us, too, we always look back and we're like, I should have been more myself. Myself during that, and I should have said that.

Kathy (29:17)

Yeah.

Parisa (29:17)

Yeah. I'm, like, thinking back to my conversations with me and, like, my friends. Like, it's. You just. You do get caught up, and it's hard. So I feel like that's always our advice. It's just, like, take it from us. Try, like, to just stay in the moment and focus and, like, just be yourself. Like, as hard as it is or as hard as.

Susan (29:36)

Yeah. Do you have any regrets of anything that you said or did on the show?

Parisa (29:41)

No, I never. No regrets. If any. If I ever have a regret, it's. I wish I did this.

Susan (29:48)

Yeah. Like, I wish I said something or.

Parisa (29:50)

Yeah, I wish I said something. But, you know, I feel like in the end, it's. You should. I don't know. I feel like in the end, it's. For me, I don't want to have regrets because it always leads to something else. And there's like always a reason.

Kathy (30:07)

And I. And I will say prisa, and no one's paying me to say this. You were. You're a lovely human being today. You are incredible. On paradise, your kindness, your big heart was evident from the very beginning. So I hope you have no regrets about Elise paradise and her beauty.

Susan (30:25)

I mean, you look so relaxed right now.

Kathy (30:29)

She does.

Susan (30:29)

And true to yourself, and I love that for you. I'm very happy for you.

Kathy (30:34)

I want to meet the guy, though.

Susan (30:36)

Yes, of course. Wait, you didn't, you didn't ask her yet. Does he have a father, an uncle?

Kathy (30:41)

Oh, yeah, that's always my question. Does he have a father and an uncle for me? Could you, could you get working on that? I'll move to Chicago. I'm good.

Parisa (30:49)

They're married.

Kathy (30:50)

They're always married. They're always married.

Parisa (30:53)

But, you know, I'll ask around because, you know, they. They know a lot of people.

Kathy (30:58)

There you go. We can be neighbors. Presa.

Susan (31:01)

Do you have any questions for Kathy or I?

Parisa (31:06)

How's. Yeah, how. Wait, so are you guys both doing the cruise? Is that next year?

Kathy (31:11)

November. So this November.

Parisa (31:13)

Wow.

Susan (31:13)

Oh, wait, so this, this year, this coming.

Kathy (31:16)

Yeah, it's 2026. November. For all those people listening, November 16th through the 20th of November, come join Punta Cana. Cruise into Punta Cana.

Susan (31:27)

Have some fun.

Parisa (31:29)

So does that mean, like, you think there'll be some singles on the cruise too, for you guys?

Susan (31:33)

I mean, it's a lot of bachelor

Kathy (31:35)

nation people, so probably a lot of single women.

Susan (31:39)

I know people write me and they're bringing their spouse and I'm not going

Kathy (31:43)

to break up a marriage. No, no, no, no. You know what? Maybe the captain of the ship will be single. Yeah, Aim high.

Susan (31:54)

Kathy's going to head the parties, I'm telling you.

Kathy (31:58)

Oh, man. Well, I don't know. It's. I just. I just want to say this. It really is fabulous seeing you, Paris. And. And I definitely want to meet Gabe because I think you are a very special person.

Susan (32:09)

You sure are.

Parisa (32:10)

Thank you so much. You guys should both come to Chicago.

Kathy (32:12)

I'm waiting for the summer.

Susan (32:13)

I used to live in Chicago part of the time, not in the winters. My. My ex used to play for the Cubs way back when when they didn't have lights. It was all day game, so it was the most normal baseball life. Yeah. Yeah. Do you. Have you been to Wrigley Field or you go to the other end?

Parisa (32:30)

Not yet. That's on my list for this summer.

Susan (32:34)

That's fun. It's so fun.

Parisa (32:37)

That's funny. You guys should both come when it warms up. Susan, are you still dating that guy?

Susan (32:42)

Yes.

Kathy (32:43)

Oh.

Parisa (32:44)

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah.

Susan (32:46)

Yeah, we'll see.

Parisa (32:48)

Okay, so then we're only gonna be looking for singles then for Kathy.

Kathy (32:52)

Damn right.

Susan (32:53)

It's all about Kathy. Well, Kathy and I are heading out to California soon, so we're going to spend a week up in the desert. Maybe we'll find somebody there.

Parisa (33:02)

Oh, fun. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah. Well, I want to know too, whenever, you guys, because I go to California a lot as well because Alicia is in California too.

Susan (33:13)

The last time in Chicago was when the Dancing with the Stars group, actually, it was Val. It was his own thing. And they did a performance there and I flew in. I don't know if they're doing that this year. I'll have to.

Kathy (33:26)

Wow. We're gonna. We are definitely Presa definitely want to see you, but unfortunately that's gonna do it for today's episode. It is. Thank you, Presa, for joining us. Thank you to everyone listening. We just. It's been a fabulous having conversation with you, Paris, and again, so happy to see you. So happy.

Parisa (33:47)

Thank you so much.

Susan (33:47)

Love having you on. I know. And make sure that keep us in the loop now. If any moving, move ins or rings happen or anything like that, we want to be the first to know.

Parisa (33:59)

Thank you so much for having me. It was so nice talking to you both.

Susan (34:02)

Absolutely. Be sure everyone to keep sending us your questions, just go to bachelornation.com golden hour and keep them coming.

Kathy (34:11)

Keep them coming. Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours golden hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen. Listen to your podcasts until next time. Have a great week.

Parisa (34:26)

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