Peg, Mel, and the Future Ahead — Part 2 | Happy Hour

Summary

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Bachelor Happy Hour: Peg, Mel, and the Future Ahead — Part 2 | Episode Summary

Podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour
Hosts: Joe Amabile & Serena Pitt
Guests: Mel and Peg
Release Date: November 14, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode continues the conversation with Mel and Peg, the standout couple from the latest Bachelor Nation season, exploring their developing romance, values, and plans for the future. Hosts Joe and Serena guide the discussion from behind-the-scenes insights to light-hearted games, offering listeners a warm, lively look at how two fan favorites are paving their new life together post-show.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Integrity in the Bachelor Mansion

• Peg’s Impression of Mel: Peg admires Mel’s integrity, noting he “is integrity,” not just someone who “has integrity” (04:11). She appreciates that he didn’t throw around “I love yous” to every contestant, reserving the word “for when it really means something” (04:13).
• Mel’s Perspective: Mel reflects on maintaining honesty with the contestants:

  “If you told me and you told her the same thing, it gets around... I just told the truth in my honest feelings.” (04:35)
  He credits Peg for sharing these values, which contributed to their connection.

2. Essentials Beyond Love

• Serena asks what qualities, apart from love, drew them to each other.
  • Peg: The real connection became apparent during their overnight, away from cameras, when Mel’s sense of humor and authenticity shone (06:18).

    “He’s a chatty Cathy, believe it or not, Bachelor Nation.” (06:23)

  • Mel: He was drawn to Peg's energy and colorful personality—

    “She colors outside the lines… has a tremendous amount of energy, and not sometimes, like all the time… And also, she’s crazy. And I like crazy.” (07:09)

3. Peg’s Background and Life as a First Responder

• Mel lists Peg’s impressive background:

  “She was on the fire department, police department, bomb squad… taught with the Secret Service, the CIA, the FBI, down in Huntsville, Alabama.” (07:19)
  He loves “a lot of background, a lot of depth” and her sense of fun.

4. Fun with Danger: Bomb Squad vs. Bachelor Mansion

• Peg describes walking into the mansion as more “nerve wracking” than disarming a bomb:

  “Meeting him, meeting all the women, walking into that mansion. I was so nervous because it was out of my comfort zone.” (09:18)

5. Developing Chemistry & Early Friendship

• Both detail how their connection grew from initial attraction to friendship to romance. Mel recalls:

  “I had a crush on her as soon as she walked out... then at the first talks… it just built from there and, you know, the rest is history.” (11:04)

• Peg laughs about their first group date and how opportunities for genuine conversation felt scarce due to show logistics.

6. Approach to Love: ‘Growing’ vs. ‘Falling’

• Peg articulates her desire for a lasting relationship, stating:

  “I don't want to fall in love because you're going to break your face. I just want to grow in love.” (19:36)

• She stresses the importance of building a “firm foundation,” especially at this stage of life.

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Life After the Show: Logistics, Travel & Family

7. Managing Distance:

• Mel and Peg explain their bi-coastal lives—Vegas and Orange County are just “a 45-minute plane ride… or three and a half hour drive.” (20:44)
• Immediate plans include travels to Vegas, Michigan (for “Hob Nobble Gobble”), Toronto, Montreal, Rio for Christmas, and the Super Bowl in Santa Clara.

  “Vegas for now… then Michigan… then Rio for Christmas, Super Bowl in Santa Clara.” (22:01)

• Peg celebrates the freedom retirement brings:

  “When you’re in your 60s… it’s really nice being retired and being where we’re at in our life. You do what you want to do when you want to do it.” (23:49)

8. Involving Family

• Mel’s kids won’t join for Christmas as they have their own commitments, but the couple stays involved in their lives (23:21).
• Peg's daughter lives in Vegas, and the couple enjoys balancing time with both families and friends.

9. Favorite Memories from the Show

• Mel:

  “Favorite moment was… the mud baths. I never had a mud bath before, and I’m in there with the girl I have a crush on... it was warm. That was one of my best moments on the show.” (27:52)

• Peg:

  “Casey and the Sunshine Band— all that music we grew up on… I was really just in the moment enjoying time with him.” (28:38)

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“Newly Happy Couple” Game — Fun Facts & Memorable Moments

Segment starts at 35:33

The hosts play “Who’s Who” with Mel and Peg:

• Better cook: Mel (“I cook all the time… best soup ever.” (35:42))
• More forgetful: Both claim not to be forgetful.
• Music taste: Mel (“Motown, baby.” (36:33))
• Sleeps in more: Mel (“If I could sleep in, I'd sleep in.” (37:02))
• Funniest: Peg, but Mel gets credit for subtle humor.
• Cuddler: Both
• More outgoing: Both (“Chatty Cathy here. Just wait, you guys.” (37:57))
• Better driver: Mel (“I operate within the speed limits.” (38:07))
• More adventurous: Both. Mel: “I ran with the bulls, played football in the NFL, scuba dived.” (39:12) Peg’s career as a first responder is cited as “adventurous plus.”
• Better dancer: Peg
• More organized: Peg thinks she is.

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Notable Quotes

• Peg: “For me, love takes time. And there's value… I’m not going to just throw it away… is that sustainable?” (04:15)
• Mel: “I had a crush on her as soon as she walked out.” (08:11)
• Peg: “I don't want to fall in love because you're going to break your face. I just want to grow in love.” (19:36)
• Mel: “She’s crazy, and I like crazy. I don't like boredom.” (07:19)
• Peg: “When you’re in your 60s… you do what you want to do when you want to do it.” (23:49)

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode is candid, heartwarming, and playful, with a heavy dose of gratitude and mutual affection from Mel and Peg. The conversation is peppered with light banter, compelling personal stories, and advice for finding sustainable love later in life.

Listeners gain insights into what makes this couple work: shared values, communication, life experience, and a sense of humor. Their energetic, open approach to love and adventure—at any age—offers inspiration for forging meaningful relationships beyond the Bachelor cameras.

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Transcript

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[D]

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[A]

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[D]

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to BET yout Happy Hour. I'm Joe.

[C]

And I'm Serena.

[D]

And we are back with part two with Mel and Pat. Should we get into it?

[C]

Let's get into it.

[E]

You know, I do have to say one thing, you guys, knowing Mel now, in really getting to know who he is and what came to me the most about his character is he doesn't have integrity. He is integrity.

[C]

Oh, that's really nice. That's a great compliment.

[E]

That's sinking. No, that is like, because I, you know, and I really respected him because he didn't go around telling all these women, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you. I don't respect that because for me, love takes time. And there's value to the word love. And I'm not going to just throw it away around just because I've got chemistry with you. The chemistry, it. Okay, that's great. But is that sustainable?

[A]

And you. I could have been attracted. And I was attracted to all of them in some degree, but you just can't go there and just tell them, you know, like if you told me and you told her the same thing, it's like, you know, because it gets around and then, you know, then it gets. It gets leaked or it's on camera, then everybody else watches it. I just told the truth in my honest feelings. And I and Peg was the same way. So that was the connection and the chemistry and, you know, and it worked out.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, I will say all the women we've interviewed and even on the women tell all, they've all spoken really highly of Umal, which doesn't always happen with the lead. So, yeah, I really appreciate that.

[A]

And a few of them have come to me and said, thank you for being just the way you were on the show, because I was honest and they weren't misled. So easy to just fall into that. Like you said earlier. What you fall into it. You can fall into that little area, that gray area. Like, I really like you. I'm falling. I'm falling in love with you. It's like, yeah, I don't want to go there if it's not true. I just don't want to.

[C]

Yeah, you don't want anyone to feel misled or blindsided.

[A]

I still wanted to make sure that she's the one. Right. I crush on her, but I'm not in love with her right away.

[C]

Yeah, love seems to be obviously important to guys. You want to love the person that you're with, but not the most important thing. What were some of the things for each of you that you were looking for from one another to be like, okay, like, great, like, love. But, like, I really see these qualities or I feel this way about this person, and that is bringing me confidence that, you know, I could see a life with them.

[E]

Oh, my gosh. The. At the overnight, that's when I really got to know him. No cameras, no, you know, mics, no lights, none of that stuff. And he's a chatty Cathy, believe it or not, Bachelor nation, He's a chatty Cathy. And I was like, whoa, where did this come from? You know, but that's being able to let your guard down without the. The cameras in your face or the mics or the. You've got, you know, people around you. It's really. It's really hard, you know, to express yourself and to get in your feels when all of this stuff is going on. So. I loved his honesty, his directness, his integrity, you know, he's honestly. He's got a great sense of humor, believe it or not. Everybody, you know, it's just. It takes time to get to so know somebody.

[D]

Yeah. How about you, Mel?

[A]

Well, you know, I know Peg. She colors outside the lines. And I have to have someone like that. I have someone with tremendous amount of energy, and not sometimes, like, all the time. And then when I saw that, I go, that's my girl right there. That whole energy and says what she wants. And when you look at her background, you know, it tells A lot about you, too. Someone who is sacrifice, right? And you're giving of others. She's, you know, she's a first responder. She was on the fire department, police department, bomb squad. She. I found out later she taught, you know, with the Secret Service or the CIA or the FBI. FBI down in, you know, in, like, Huntsville, Alabama, down south. So all these qualities. I go, so there's a lot of background, a lot of depth to her. And also, she's crazy. And I like crazy. You know, I like crazy. I don't like. I don't like boredom. You know, I'm not. I'm not a boring guy either.

[E]

No, I mean, it's not.

[A]

It comes across because I'm just answering the questions on, you know, when I'm being honest. And everybody wants that for me to be crazy. I'm not crazy like that. But in the relationship, I love to have fun. I really do. And she's the best person to have fun with. Like, the best. And I knew it. And I knew it. So that those are the qualities. And I saw those early on. I go, I had a crush on her as soon as she walked out. So I saw her out of the bomb, you know, I saw her in her dress. I go, that's my girl right there.

[D]

Crazy. Crazy is important, right, Serena?

[A]

It's just important.

[C]

Joe's crazy. Yeah. And I love it.

[D]

Peg, have you. Have you ever had a real close call with a bomb?

[E]

Oh, yeah. So a couple of times.

[A]

You guys all close calls, man?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's a bomb. Like, you don't send the bomb squad in unless it's a close call because.

[E]

You just don't know what you're going to get. You're walking up on a device, you know, and you don't know what the device is. You don't know if it's, you know, if it's inert or if it's live. You just don't know. So, yeah, it's, you know, I put that bomb suit on and I'm like, all right, just let's, you know, say a prayer here.

[D]

What's more nerve wracking? The bomb suit walking into a bomb or the bomb suit walking into the mansion?

[E]

Walking into the mansion.

[B]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm telling you, I was so nervous, by far, meeting him, meeting all the women walking into that mansion. I was so nervous because it was out of my comfort zone. I've never done anything like this before. And you're on live tv, you know, you're on TV and you're supposed to get into your feels, and, you know, it's just. It's very different.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

With a bomb. You know, Worst case, you die on the Bachelor. You have to watch yourself back. Look like an idiot. That's. That's hard.

[A]

That's forever.

[D]

Yeah, that's forever. Very true. Peg, we touched on you meeting Mel's boys, but what did you think of Diane, his close friend?

[E]

Oh, I love Diane. We still talk today. I just was on the phone with her a couple of days ago and just chatting with her. She's extremely smart, extremely compassionate, and we just sat down in the interview in Antigua, and we just, you know, we were like two Chatty Cathys. We, you know, we were just talking and talking, and we were talking over each other, and I really, really like her, and I'm really looking forward to her, to spend more time with her. I really great person.

[C]

Mel, you said when Peg sipped out of the limo, you instantly had a crush on her. And I feel like you guys definitely had, like, a spark chemistry right off the bat, as a viewer, it looked like you kind of really built a strong friendship as well. Kind of early on that developed into a more romantic, deeper connection. Can you just kind of, both of you, walk us through your relationship journey, and if you feel like that's accurate, how it progressed?

[A]

Well, you know, when she came out with a Bombs, I didn't see her, like I told you, but then there's a diversion because they couldn't get the bomb to blow up. So they took me off, and then they somehow got her, and I wasn't really paying attention. I go, who's the. Who's this? Right? And I go, oh, that's the. She had the bomb in her hand. I go, oh, that's the same girl that was in the. In the. In the. In the suit. And I was taken back. I go, wow. I go, I. I, you know, boom. I have a crush on her. Right. Right there. Then at the first, you know, the. The. The. The interviews or the talks, she was one of the last ones. So the sun was coming up, and I saw her, and I go, wow. Go. That's the same person that I just met. So it sort of developed there. And then she goes, oh, yeah, I live in Vegas, and I also come to Orange county, and I live in Orange County. I go, how's that even? How's that even work, Right? So then on our first group date at the Coliseum, you know, they have people next to you the entire time where you can't leave, like where are you going? Where are you going? Where are you going? Right? You know, they got cameras and everything, but Paulette Duo was there. So when Paul Abdul came, everybody went to Paul Abdul. I left, right? Their guard was down. I left and I went around. I played with the mascot a little bit and then I went off and I go to Peg. I go, hey, can I talk to you? I don't really know her. I just. My second time talking to her, hey, can I talk to you for a minute? So she comes out of her, you know, she's doing her routine. She comes out and I go, hey, tell me how you, how you live in Orange county sometimes and you live in Vegas. I go, I live in Orange County. She goes, well, it's 50. 50. I'm retired. You know, I've been retired for 10 years. I'm like, 10 years ago. You must retired when you're like 50 years old, you know, something like that. So I was doing the math on it and I go, oh, okay. So then I go, all right, that might work, you know. So then I kept on adding to the, to my story in my head. One thing led to another. I already had a crush on her. Finding out a little bit more about her, and it just built from there and, and, you know, the rest is history.

[B]

Chapter 10. Ronan's eyes widened as the moon enveloped their secret sanctuary. Go, he warned. I'm losing control. Luna defiantly stepped forward, tracing the scar across his jaw. Then lose it, she whispered. She was ready. She has Nexplanon etinorgestrel implant, 68mg radiopaque to prevent pregnancy. A non daily prescription birth control for women that goes in your arm and not in your uterus. Don't use nexplanon if you're pregnant or may be pregnant, have or had blood clots or certain cancers, have liver disease, liver tumor, or unexplained vaginal bleeding. Once the implant is placed, you and your doctor should feel for it. If at any time you can't feel the implant, contact your doctor right away and and use a non hormonal birth control method such as condoms. Removal of the implant may be difficult or impossible if it isn't where it should be. While uncommon ectopic pregnancy, pregnancy that occurs outside the womb can occur, which can cause serious internal bleeding, infertility and even death. You are likely to experience changes to your period. Ovarian cysts may occur and usually disappear. Nexplanon may raise the chance of serious blood clots, which can cause heart attack. Stroke or death, especially if you smoke or have other risk factors. Nexplanon doesn't protect against HIV or STDs. With less than one pregnancy per 100 women who use Nexspanon for one year, Nexplanon is over 99% effective. No matter the fantasy, talk to your doctor, call 1-877-467-5266 or visit nexplanon.com for more information. Ask your doctor about Nexplanon.

[C]

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[A]

July?

[D]

I mean, no, never. Like I like to shop. Actually, I like to shop on Christmas Eve because I find it to be a little more festive.

[C]

But you like to start decorating right after Halloween?

[D]

No, after Thanksgiving. Okay, that's different. That's different. Halloween? No, not Halloween.

[C]

You know, I consider myself to be a pretty good gift giver. I've got my list and I've checked.

[D]

It twice, probably three times. She takes the holidays very seriously.

[C]

I can't help it. You know, I love finding the perfect gifts for everyone. And Walmart has all the top brands. Nespresso, Sonos, Nintendo, Nintendo at Walmart.

[D]

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[C]

What about you, Peg?

[E]

You know, it's just, you know, it's building for me. What love means is getting that firm foundation and just I don't want to fall in love because you're going to break your face. I just want to grow in love.

[C]

Love.

[E]

And that growing in love is sustainable. And at this. And I said that when we were in Antigua, I said, you know, I don't, I don't want to waste another five years on a, on something that's not going to work. So to take that time in the very beginning of a relationship and really be conscious of are these qualities that are going to fit for me and are these qualities that are going to fit for him and a nice firm foundation just to, you know, just build and build on that relationship and just fall deeper in love with each other. Because, you know, love does grow. It really does. It's not something that just happens overnight.

[D]

Have you guys talked at all about how you are going to make it work logistically?

[E]

Oh, hell yeah. Oh, my God. You guys ready?

[A]

I'll start. I'll start.

[C]

Ready?

[A]

Thanksgiving, I'm foundation. First of all, she lives in Vegas, right? Okay. She lives in Vegas. So that's only a 45 minute plane ride. It's up and down. They don't even have a service.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Or it's like a three and a half hour. Four, you know. Right. Which is a good ride. You know, it's, it's pleasant. So that's not Vegas.

[D]

I, I love Vegas. I would, I would live there. Just saying.

[C]

I can't live there. You'll gamble all our money away.

[A]

No, I won't. Somewhere in Ohio where it's completely boring, right? Yeah, yeah. Or so I'm in Southern California. It's. We're all. We're here in Southern California. It's November. It's great. Vegas is always good. Right? And so then, so, right, for the immediate future, we're going to go to Vegas and then we're going to go to Michigan. There's something called Hob Nobble Gobble. You can Google that it's bigger than the Grammys. And then go to.

[C]

Wait, what is it?

[E]

Ask for Thanksgiving. We're going to be over there for Thanksgiving to spend time with his.

[A]

Hobnobble Gobble. You can Google. It's the biggest thing ever.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Where all the CEOs and all the people come in. It's bigger than the Grammys. So after, after that you go back to Vegas.

[E]

Back to Vegas after that. Because we're going to go to the sphere, you guys. We're going to go see the wizard of Oz. Yeah. We can't wait a story behind that. But in his birthday is on the 7th, so I'm going to take him to a Raiders game. We're going to go to a Raiders game. And then after that we're going to spend Christmas, two or three weeks in Ria.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait. So we go back to Michigan to go for Thanksgiving.

[E]

Thanksgiving.

[A]

Thanksgiving with my friend. And then we go. Then we go to Toronto and Montreal.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Just to break it up. Yeah, just. We come back for the University of Michigan game. Ohio State game. Right.

[D]

Aren't they playing? Aren't they playing? Aren't they playing in Wrigley this. This weekend?

[A]

Michigan with Western.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

And then following the following two. Two weeks later, we play at home against Ohio State. Okay, Ohio State, which is right around the 29th. Right. And then. Then a couple weeks later, we're going.

[E]

To Rio for Christmas. In Rio?

[A]

I have friends. I have. One of my best friends lives in Rio. He's been my friend for 40 years. So we're gonna go and spend it. I go to Rio all the time. So I go. It's a great place to spend Christmas. And then New Year's, it's hot there, right? It's. It's flipped, so it's summer there, so it's like 90 degrees this. We spend Christmas and New Year's there. Then we come back, and then my friend works for espn and we're going to do the super bowl up in Santa Clara.

[C]

Amazing.

[D]

I mean. Yeah, we just got the whole calendar.

[C]

I'm stoked for you guys. You're going to have the best time. Are your kids all going with you as well for Christmas?

[A]

Not invited.

[C]

Oh, they're on their own for Christmas. Bye.

[A]

They're playing. My boys play baseball. One plays in college, one plays in high school. So they got their own schedule. But we're going to go out and watch them play in Palm Springs. And so they're going to be sort of in the mix. I asked them, do you want to go to Rio with us? Because, you know, my wife was Brazilian. So they have friends and family down there, and they go, no, we're busy. We got stuff to do.

[D]

So, Pag, where does your. Where does your daughter live?

[E]

She's in Vegas.

[D]

She's in Vegas. Okay.

[E]

After I retired, I moved to San Clemente for a couple of years. And I have friends and family in San Clemente that's 20 minutes from where he is. And I've just been going back and forth there for 30 years. And here's the nice thing that I need to tell you guys, because you're young when you're. You. You know, you work your entire life. You've done the marriage, you've done the colleges, you've done the kids. The. The dog, the house, all that stuff. So when you're in your 60s, because everybody always asks, it's really nice being retired and being where we're at in our life. You do what you want to do when you want to do it. There's no this or that. It's always an and. And that's what's nice about working so hard our entire lives, right? And because you want the and, there's no this or that. So we have the Vegas house and our Orange county house, and we're traveling and the kids. So it's really fun. We just, you know, go live life. You guys, the thing is done.

[A]

And I have friends all over the world, so that I haven't seen since before COVID And now I'm going to get a chance to, you know, you know, go back and visit. And I go, peg, you're going to love these places. You know, and she's going to show me the same thing. You know, she has all her friends all over the place, too, so we're going to go visit them and have fun.

[C]

What are you guys going to Toronto and Montreal for? I'm from Toronto. I'm in. I'm in Toronto right now.

[D]

Oh.

[E]

Oh, wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Need to talk to you.

[A]

Yeah. How this stuff works out exactly? This hobgobble, gobble. Google that.

[D]

Bigger than the Grammys, bigger than the.

[A]

Grammys, better than the Grant, bigger and better than the Granby Hop novel gobble. And that's the. Like the Friday before Thanksgiving. So instead of going back to California or Vegas, you know, we gotta not kill time, but spend some time away. I don't spend the entire time in Michigan, so I go Toronto is. I'm from Detroit, so I go Toronto from Detroit so I can. Like a couple hours. So we're gonna go there and then spend a couple nights in Toronto, then take a train to Montreal. I've never been to Montreal. Hang out.

[C]

You'll love it.

[A]

It's great. Back my friend's house in Michigan, celebrate Thanksgiving there. Then two days later is the game. So that's why we're going. That's where we're spending time in Canada.

[E]

All right, well, give me your number so we can connect and we can.

[C]

Text you and I'll send you guys a bunch of time.

[A]

I loved it.

[E]

You've been trying.

[C]

Toronto's great. You're gonna have a great time.

[D]

Peg. Peg, what did your going back a little bit to the show and off of scheduling. Peg, what is. What did your daughter think when you told her it was a happy ending.

[E]

She was like, really? Really?

[D]

She. Did she think you were going to get heartbroken at the end?

[E]

No, she didn't.

[A]

No. They all knew that she was going to win. I go to. I go to their house and her friend, Atlanta.

[E]

Right, Atlanta. We wouldn't be here. She love you, Atlanta.

[A]

She goes. Nothing surprises me about Peg. Nothing. She goes. If she came back and says, oh, I just got finished walking on the moon, they go, okay, yes, Peg, Right. I remember that. About what they said about her. Nothing really surprises them about her. What she does. And I got to know that. And nothing surprises me about her that, you know, if she says she's going to do something, she can do it. And her daughter was like, oh, okay. It's surprising, but not really. Yeah. Surprising to you, but not really. Of course, you. Yeah.

[D]

I could see that. This question is for both of you. Looking back on the season, what are some of your favorite or what's like, maybe one. Favorite memory that you have together?

[A]

Go ahead.

[E]

Favorite memory we have together.

[A]

Okay. When we were in the mud.

[D]

You are a Chatty Cathy, Mel. I'm picking up on it. I'm picking up on it.

[C]

Yeah. What the heck? Why do they do you so dirty and make it seem like you don't talk?

[E]

You.

[C]

You have so much to say. But you know what? We did say that on this podcast, after the tell all, they showed some bloopers and we said, I feel like they're hiding Mel's personality from us.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And this is my B material. It's not even my good stuff. Wow. What was the question again?

[C]

Tell us your favorite moment from the season with Pet.

[A]

Favorite moment was they. They had the mud baths. Right. And there was two of them. Right. And then I don't know how they go, well, we're gonna get rid of one. And I had just gotten to the. The cold plunge because they did it backwards. I was cold plunge then because they had the. The mud bath first and then the cold plunge. It was a cold plunge. Now it's freezing. I go, I'm hoping this is going to be warm. Right? And it was like, late in the day because the sun was going down and you're on top of the mountain, so it gets cold up there. And so that was really a cool moment because I never had a mud bath before, and I'm in there with the girl across me that I have a crush, but I go, this would be good, man. And it was warm. It was warm. So I want to come out. That was good. That was one of my best moments on the, on the show.

[E]

Love that you Casey in the Sunshine Band because all that music we grew up on and it just took me back to being 16 years old again and I didn't care about the, the the cameras or the people. I was really just in the moment enjoying time with him and those songs were just so, you know, just brought me right back to being a teenager again. It was just so fun and just to let go of all those preconceived ideas and people are watching me and what are they, what are they going to think and all that other stuff and just be in the moment. And I think that was the one of the best moments for me.

[D]

Love that.

[C]

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[A]

July?

[D]

I mean, no, never. Like, I. I like to shop, actually, I like to shop on Christmas Eve because I find it to be a little more festive.

[C]

But you like to start decorating right after Halloween?

[D]

No, after Thanksgiving. Okay, that's different. That's different. Halloween? No, not Halloween.

[C]

You know, I consider myself to be a pretty good gift giver. I've got my list and I've checked.

[D]

It twice, probably three times. She takes the holidays very seriously.

[C]

I can't help it. You know, I love finding the perfect gifts for everyone. And Walmart has all the top brands. Nespresso, Sonos, Nintendo.

[D]

Nintendo at Walmart. Who knew?

[C]

I know. And more. All of your shopping in one place.

[D]

How much more shopping? Oh boy.

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[D]

All I know is what I've been told. And that to have truth is a whole lie.

[F]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[D]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[F]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[D]

Through she sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[F]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[D]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or.

[A]

Burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[C]

They literally made me say that I.

[E]

Took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured.

[A]

Gas on her.

[F]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[A]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[F]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley. Feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

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Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. Molly I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi the Heidi Fly Story. And I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films. We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading?

[C]

That's us taking hold of our Life.

[D]

In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined stardom, then left it all behind. I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man. With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Gentle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Atlanta is a spirit. It's not just a city.

[A]

I didn't really have an interest in being on air. I kind of was up there to just try and infiltrate the building.

[D]

It's where crunk was born. In a club in the West End. Four World Star. It was 5:5:9, where a tiny bar birthed a generation of rap stars, where preachers go viral and students at the HBCU turned heartbreak into resurrection. How do you get people to believe in something that's dead? Well, dreamers brought Hollywood to the south, and hustlers bring their visions to create black wealth. Nobody's rushing into relationships with you. Where are you from? They want to look you in the eye where the future is.

[A]

Nostalgia stocking the chat. GPT she like you really the first lady to have a gangster girls tape in Atlanta, Georgia. Like, that's what separates you from a lot of people. And I was like, you know what?

[D]

You right.

[A]

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[D]

I'm big rude. Let us guide you through the stories.

[A]

Behind Atlanta's most iconic moments.

[D]

Listen to Atlanta is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, we are going to play the newly happy couple game. It's who's who. You guys ready?

[E]

Got it.

[D]

Okay. Who's the better cook?

[E]

Mel, by far.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I cook all the time.

[E]

Great cook.

[A]

I cook all the time.

[E]

Chef level.

[D]

You talk. Mel, what do you. What do you not do? Mel, what's your favorite. What's your. What's your best dish?

[A]

Today was eggs and bacon.

[E]

No, but your best, best dish?

[A]

You know, I make the best soup ever. All of them. And it was sort of mundane like soup, but if you tasted it, you go, oh, my God.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I try to make soup a lot, and, like, it's hit or miss. And Joe knows that.

[A]

Who had it? They know it's for real.

[D]

Okay, who's more forgettable or forgetful?

[C]

Neither of you are forgettable.

[D]

Who is more forgetful?

[E]

I think we're both forgetful.

[A]

I'm not forgetful. No, I'm not. I'm not.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Make a point to be not forgetful.

[C]

Who has better music taste?

[E]

Oh, Mel. Motown, baby.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I have my playlist and I knew she'd like it. Even it's off. It's not all Motown, but a lot of Motown. But it's that genre, that style. Love it. And all she does is dance to it. I go, I knew she'd love it.

[E]

Love it, love it.

[A]

New stuff, old stuff. She loves it.

[D]

I mean, I get in the car with my dad, the first thing he says is, siri, play photo. Who sleeps. Who sleeps in more?

[E]

You do.

[A]

Oh, I do.

[E]

I'm up at like 6:00'.

[D]

Clock.

[A]

I get up early too, because my boys get at 6 o'. Clock. But given the. If I could sleep in, I'd sleep in. So I said it'd be me.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Who hogs the bed?

[E]

Both of us.

[A]

Yeah, both of us.

[C]

Who takes longer to get ready?

[E]

Oh, I do.

[A]

Yeah, probably.

[E]

I do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Who is the funniest?

[A]

Oh, Peg's the funniest.

[C]

I don't know.

[E]

He's. You guys. I know you guys. It's hard to believe, but he's.

[A]

I just let her run. I just let her run with it because I go, this is gonna be so good.

[E]

He's pretty funny.

[A]

Just let her go. Really is.

[E]

It's pretty funny.

[D]

Serena, you skipped a question. Go back.

[C]

Go.

[D]

You gotta ask it. You gotta.

[C]

Okay, sure. Who's the biggest cuddler?

[E]

We both are.

[A]

Yeah, both.

[E]

It's crazy. Insane.

[D]

I like that you skipped that.

[C]

Who is more outgoing?

[E]

We both are. Chatty Cathy here. Just wait. You guys.

[D]

You're both outgoing. You're both very outgoing.

[C]

Who.

[D]

Who's the better driver?

[A]

Oh, I'm a better driver. I. I operate within the speed limits.

[C]

You saw her, I was gonna say, though, on the. On the atv, but you didn't see on the.

[A]

On the dune buggy. Was. She's asking me the whole time. Let me drive. I go, no, no, let me drive. Let me drive. No, no. I didn't know. When I saw the dune buggy as a date, I go. In my head, I go, I bet she has one of these. And she was like, I wanted home. She had a big one, right? And I knew it. And she got all Excited. Let me drive. No, no, no. Because I know if she already had it, nobody knew that she's gonna go crazy, right? So finally they go, let her drive. I go, oh, God. I'll be my best behavior first thing out of the shoot. Gone, right? I go. It took her about a second, right? So acting up.

[C]

So much fun, though. That was a great part of the day. Who's the better dancer? Oh, by far, you are a great dancer. Who's more organized?

[E]

I don't know. I think I might be. Yeah, I think she and I think I am.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Who is more adventurous?

[E]

I think we both are. Believe it or not. Believe it or not, he ran with the bulls, for God's sakes, in Spain. And everybody's saying how boring is not boring.

[A]

I scuba dive. They go, oh, you know, look, the guy was scared of the stingrays. I got in, though. I think, Joe, you said you weren't gonna go in at all.

[D]

Yeah, I wouldn't have went in, but. No, I probably would have went in, but I would have been similar.

[A]

And I told the woman who organizes the dates, I go, no animals, right? No animals, no horses. She put me right on a horse. I hadn't been on a horse since I was like three years old. One of those little walk around things. I'm on this big old horse, right? I'm like, you know, the minute you.

[C]

Said, don't put me on a horse, they went, yeah, that's why.

[D]

That's reality TV 101. Whatever they ask you, you're scared of nothing.

[C]

I'm not scared of anything. I'll do anything.

[A]

But being adventurous, I did it, right? I scuba dived, I ran up the ball. I played football in the NFL. That's adventurous. Yeah, right?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, very much. Very much.

[C]

I don't blame you for the stingray thing. I've done it, and it's nerve wracking.

[E]

Wouldn't have done it. I would not. I would have said, nope, peace out. I'm on the boat.

[A]

But adventurous, you know, to fight fires and to be a police officer and a bomber, that. That takes it all. I mean, adventurous plus, you know, you're not scared of anything. You fearless.

[C]

Also, you both went on the Bachelor, and I think that's very adventurous.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. You have to be somewhat adventurous to go on the show. That is it for the game. You guys, this was a lot of fun. Thank you so much, and we're very happy for you.

[E]

Thank you guys for having us.

[C]

We didn't know how this season ended for, like, so much of it. But Peg, I loved you so much for right from the get go and I'm so happy for you both. I think you're an incred like you're such a fit. You're such a great couple and we're just really excited for you guys.

[D]

Thanks Peg. If she loved you that much she would have. She would have picked you. But she didn't. I did so well.

[C]

You went first in the draft. We saw it happen first in the draft.

[D]

And to all our listeners, thank you so much for tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.

[C]

We have new and exclusive interviews every single week. Thank you so much for listening and stay tuned. Bye. Let's Talk about Sex actually, let's talk about pregnancy prevention. There are a lot of birth control options out there. You might have even tried a bunch. Have you heard of Nexplanon etnogestrel implant? 68 milligram radiopaque. It's a prescription birth control for the prevention of pregnancy in women. When thinking about the right birth control for you, learn about your options. You may not want to take one daily or have one that goes in your uterus. Nexplanon is the birth control implant that goes in your arm. Don't use nexplanon if you're pregnant or maybe pregnant, have or had blood clots or certain cancers, have liver disease, liver tumor or unexplained vaginal bleeding. Once the implant is placed, you and your doctor should feel for it. If at any time you can't feel the implant, contact your doctor right away and use a non hormonal birth control method such as condoms. Removal of the implant may be difficult or impossible if it isn't where it should be. While uncommon ectopic pregnancy, pregnancy that occurs outside the womb can occur which can cause serious internal bleeding, infertility and even death breath. You are likely to experience changes to your period. Ovarian cysts may occur and usually disappear. Nexplanon may raise the chance of serious blood clots, which can cause heart attack, stroke or death, especially if you smoke or have other risk factors. Nexplanon doesn't protect against HIV or STDs. Talk to your doctor. Visit nexplanon.com or call 1-877-467-5266 for more information. There are so many options out there, so it's important to talk to your doctor and find the right birth control for you. Ask for yourself.

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[B]

Hey, I'm Nora Jones and I love playing music with people so much that.

[E]

My podcast called Playing along is Back.

[B]

I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Over the past two seasons I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Levy, Rufus Wainwright, Mavis Staples. Really too many to name and there's still so much more to come it this new season. Listen to Norah Jones is Playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[A]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[F]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast.