Peg’s a Firecracker! | Golden Hour

Summary

Bachelor Happy Hour | Golden Hour

Episode Title: Peg’s a Firecracker!
Date: October 21, 2025
Hosts: Kath & Susan
Guest: Peg, contestant from "The Golden Bachelor" (Season 2)

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Episode Overview

In this dynamic and laughter-filled episode, Kath and Susan sit down with Peg, a standout contestant from the second season of "The Golden Bachelor," for an energetic, honest, and heartfelt conversation. The hosts and Peg explore her journey on the show, her unique career as a firefighter and bomb tech, her approach to dating and authenticity, and memorable behind-the-scenes moments with the other women in the mansion. Throughout, Peg’s no-nonsense humor and bold personality are front-and-center, offering deep insight and plenty of quotable moments for fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Peg’s Background and Unique Career Path

[03:57]–[06:16]

• Las Vegas roots: Peg was born and raised in Las Vegas, NV.
• Firefighting trailblazer: Hired in 1992, she was only the fourth woman to join her fire department, facing a predominantly male and at times unwelcoming environment.
  • “They did not want women on the fire department at all.” – Peg [04:53]
  • Many women hired left within 6-12 months; Peg persevered for over 25 years.
• Career progression: Started on ladder and pumper trucks, fought fires, worked on ambulances, and eventually got “bored” and sought new challenges.
• Became a bomb tech: Promoted to arson division, attended the FBI Bomb Academy, and served as a bomb technician.
  • “I felt like I was the main character in a spy novel.” – Peg [06:11]
  • Peg described the job as “so much fun” and deeply rewarding.

2. Journey to ‘The Golden Bachelor’

[06:47]–[08:03]

• How she joined: Peg’s best friend Alana, a lifelong fan of the franchise, signed her up as soon as auditions opened.
  • Peg initially resisted: “There is no way I’m putting myself on national television.” – Peg [07:21]
  • She completed the application under her friend’s persistence.
• What pushed her over the edge: Her daughter’s encouragement:
  • “Mom, what else are you doing? ...I’m tired of you calling me ten times a day.” – Peg [07:48]
• **Peg was not actively dating before joining but was open to new experiences.

3. First Night at the Mansion

[08:12]–[09:32]

• Impressions: Peg was both excited and intimidated by the accomplished, gorgeous women in the house.
  • “Oh, shit. These are beautiful, gorgeous, accomplished women.” – Peg [08:52]
• Meeting Mel: Had only three minutes to talk to him, but made them count.
  • “I went in with the idea of, is he good for me?” – Peg [09:14]
  • Turned the tables and asked Mel what he was looking for, not just focusing on whether she fit his needs.

4. Peg’s Approach to Authenticity and Relationships

[09:13]–[12:16], [18:19]–[20:12]

• Asserted her needs and boundaries early, focusing on genuine connection.
• “If you are that guy on that podcast, I don’t want to date you.” – Peg [11:31]
• She values authenticity and doesn't want to "fall in love with anyone’s representative."
  • “When somebody falls in love with you, they're going to fall in love with your authentic self.” – Peg [20:02]
• Known for being high-energy and direct, sometimes to the point of “annoying the shit out of a lot of people.”
  • All three women (Peg, Kath, Susan) connected over being “too much, but not for the right person.”
  • “I am who I am. You love me, you hate me.” – Peg [19:46]
  • “No, no, I'm not too much. You're just not enough for me.” – Kath [23:23]

5. One-on-One Date and Personal Sharing

[11:14]–[12:16], [18:02]–[22:11]

• OC Fair date: Peg was candid with Mel, asking for clarity about his intentions after a controversial podcast appearance.
• Opening up about the past: She and Mel bonded over similar past hurts (infidelity in previous marriages).
  • “His wife stepped out on the marriage, and my ex-husband stepped out.” – Peg [20:24]
• Connection: There was a notable, “electrifying” moment between them.
  • “There was a moment that we both looked in each other’s eyes and it was electrifying. And I was like, oh shit, I'm in trouble.” – Peg [22:04]

6. Life in the Mansion & Dealing with Group Dynamics

[22:20]–[24:57], [30:13]–[33:37]

• Adapting to groups of women: Peg was used to the direct and “no-bullshit” environment of the firehouse and found the bachelorette house very different.
  • “I'm used to directness. I'm used to no bullshit… One of the girls told me I needed to have more feathers. And I'm like, no, I don’t.” – Peg [23:10–23:18]
• Drama avoidance: Peg napped through much of the “Nicole drama,” prioritizing rest and maintaining focus on Mel.
  • “I just don't pay attention to that stuff. I was there for Mel. I wasn’t there for women drama.” – Peg [24:50]
• On Nicole’s influencer intentions: Peg disapproved of participants not there for genuine reasons.
  • “Don’t come on a dating show and take somebody else's spot that’s truly there to find love.” – Peg [31:16]

7. Reflections on Dates and Upcoming Hometowns

[34:39]–[37:03]

• Group date fun: Peg emphasized fun and lighthearted connection; believes the hard work in life is over and now is the time for enjoyment.
  • “Our heavy lifting, it’s over with… now it’s time to really just enjoy each other and enjoy life.” – Peg [35:33]
• Looking forward: Peg teases her hometown date will feature the firehouse (and perhaps a joke about fire poles).

8. Personal Life and Bonds

[38:26]–[39:02]

• Peg’s go-to “desert island” friends from the show: Terri, Tracy, and Debbie—because of their diverse skills and personalities.
• Deep bonds with her castmates, described as “besties.”

9. Empowerment, Self-Care, and Age

[39:22]–[40:15]

• Conversation about facelifts and self-care, focusing on doing things for personal confidence, not for others.
  • “Do whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better… but you don’t need it.” – Kath [39:46]
• Peg’s example encourages women her age that “life is not over” and to keep living fully.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Peg on authenticity in love:
  “When somebody falls in love with you, they’re going to fall in love with your authentic self… not the representative.” [20:02]
• Peg on women in her field:
  “They did not want women on the fire department at all. They just did not… but I stayed.” [04:53]
• Peg confronting Mel:
  “If you are that guy on that podcast, I don’t want to date you. I don’t want to waste my time and I don’t want to waste your time.” [11:31]
• On being genuine among “too much” personalities:
  “I am who I am. You love me, you hate me.” [19:46]
  “No, no, I'm not too much. You're just not enough for me.” – Kath [23:23]
• On reality show drama:
  “I got bored with it. I’m like, bye, I’m going to take another nap.” – Peg [32:49]
• On living fully at any age:
  “You are a perfect example… proving to them that life is not over. Get up and live again.” – Susan [39:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time | |---------------------------------------------------------------|----------| | Peg introduced, early firefighting career | 03:57–06:16 | | Journey to The Golden Bachelor | 06:47–08:03 | | First impressions/night at the mansion | 08:12–09:32 | | Approach to love & authenticity | 09:13–12:16, 18:19–20:12 | | The OC Fair one-on-one date | 11:14–12:16, 18:02–22:11 | | Group dynamics and mansion drama | 22:20–24:57, 30:13–33:37 | | Bonding with Mel, thoughts on group dates, comedy moments | 34:39–37:03 | | “Desert island” picks and friendships | 38:26–39:02 | | Conversation about self-image and empowerment | 39:22–40:15 |

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Final Thoughts

This episode was a whirlwind of laughs, genuine moments, and firecracker energy courtesy of Peg and the hosts. Peg’s story of resilience, honesty, and pursuit of real connection (on the show and in life) stands out as an inspiration for women of all ages. The chemistry among all three women fostered an environment of candor and comedy, leaving listeners rooting for Peg—and reminded that it's never too late to be authentic, speak your mind, and have a little fun.

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Transcript

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[Kath]

Welcome back to Bachelor happy hour's golden hour. Thanks for joining us today. We're so excited to be back. How. How are you, Susan?

[Susan]

Always excited to be back, Kath. I can't wait for today. We have a very special guest. Please welcome from this season of the Golden Bachelor. Peg is here.

[Kath]

Hey, Peg. Hey, Peg.

[Susan]

Look how gorgeous she is.

[Kath]

I mean, do you wake up looking that beautiful? That's what I want to know.

[Susan]

The hair, the cleavage. You are something.

[Peg]

No wigs. No wigs here.

[Kath]

Your hair is really. You look absolutely gorgeous.

[Susan]

And that smile could light a room. Really. We're happy to have you.

[Commercial Narrator]

Yeah.

[Susan]

So talk to us.

[Kath]

Let's get started. There's so much we want to dive into. Here we go. First, we want to get to know you a little bit better. Let's just start at the beginning. Where are you from?

[Peg]

Born and raised in Las Vegas. Las Vegas, Nevada. Born and raised.

[Kath]

Okay.

[Jane Austin]

Wow.

[Susan]

I'm coming your way soon.

[Kath]

I know. Do you win? Do you win on the strip?

[Commercial Narrator]

Do you win?

[Susan]

Don't even gamble. People from Vegas probably don't even go to the strip. Is that right?

[Peg]

I can tell you I've gambled probably five times in my entire life.

[Susan]

And I have a question. Is it hard to date in Las Vegas?

[Peg]

Really hard to date? It's very hard to date here.

[Kath]

You know why? All the men are throwing their money away on the craft table. That's what's going on there.

[Susan]

And they don't live there. They just visit.

[Kath]

But you have had an incredible career, and my son was a firefighter. So I love you because thank you for your service all those years that you were one. But tell us about your life as a bomb tech.

[Peg]

Well, it was really. It was fun because I was on the fire department. I was hired in 1992. I was the fourth woman hired on, so you could only guys imagine. And back in 1992, it was kind of.

[Susan]

It was crazy.

[Peg]

And, you know, they did not want women on the fire department at all. They just did not.

[Susan]

And. But somehow you got in there.

[Peg]

I did, and I stayed because a lot of the women, when they get hired on, they leave about six months to a year. They leave because if you can't handle.

[Susan]

The heat, get out of the kitchen.

[Peg]

The guys don't want you there. They really don't, you know, So I did that for eight years on the floor. It's called fighting fires. I was on the ladder truck company. I was ventilating. I was on the pumper truck putting the fire out. I was on the ambulance. And then, to be honest with you guys, I got bored. I got bored.

[Susan]

I was going to say, did you have a favorite out of those?

[Peg]

When I was a bomb tech, So I got bored on the floor because the guys, you know, they love it. It's a big boys club, and they have a lot of fun and they smoke cigars and they play cards and they do their video games in between all the calls. And it really is a boys club. But the guys were great. I just have to say that. So I promoted to the arson division, so I went through the fire academy. And then after that, when I was promoted to the arson division, I went through the police academy. And after the police academy, I did that for a while, and then I was became promoted to a bomb tech. So I went through the FBI bomb academy in Huntsville and Redstone Arsenal. So the bomb. The bomb being a bomb tech, it was so much fun. I really, really enjoyed that. The guys were great. What I did for a living was great. I felt like I was the main character in a spy novel.

[Susan]

Did you actually get called to a scene and have to.

[Kath]

Yes. Oh, my God, no. Susan, she sat around and played video games.

[Susan]

Well, you know, you just learn it. But how many bomb threats are there? And you have to go dissect the bomb. Like what?

[Peg]

When you. We roll up on scene, we have our trucks, we have our equipment. Nobody knows we're coming because it's the entertainment capital of the world. So we slither in and we slither out there. We have a pipe bomb or we have an unknown device, we mitigate the situation, and then we get the hell out of there.

[Susan]

Yeah, right, right, right, right.

[Jane Austin]

Wow.

[Kath]

Boy.

[Susan]

Okay, tell me, how did you know? Did you watch the Bachelor? I mean, were you a fan of Bachelor? How did you get to beyond the Golden Bachelor? Do you saw.

[Peg]

I watched Tristan's and Ryan's season. That was it.

[Susan]

Okay, so tell us how you got here.

[Peg]

Well, my girlfriend Alana, my best friend from high school, she has never missed a season. And as soon as they advertised it, what, you guys, three years ago, two and a Half years ago, I think it was. She called me right away and she just said, you. I'm signing you up. You've got to do this.

[Kath]

I love it.

[Peg]

Have to do this. I'm like, there is no way I'm putting myself on national television. There is no way. I am not going to do it. But she just kept on me and on me and on me. So I went ahead. She had started the process. I finished it.

[Kath]

You're. I'm guessing your friends and family supported you. How did you prepare to go on this? What? You know what. What were you hoping for? What were your expectations going on the show?

[Peg]

Well, when they announced Mel on a Wednesday, I think it was in April, I. They announced him. I'm like, oh, okay. He's kind of good looking, you know? And I'm thinking in my br. And I'm like, I don't know if I want to do this. But then my daughter's like, mom, what else are you doing? You have nothing else going on in your life. I'm tired of calling me ten times a day.

[Kath]

So. So. So I'm dating. You weren't dating, I take it, prior to this?

[Peg]

No, I know you guys. I go on a date here. I go out on a date there.

[Kath]

Well, I'm glad you do.

[Susan]

Okay, what did it feel like? Well, now you're there. You're there. Okay. Getting out of that limo for the first time. What were you thinking? What were you feeling? Cause we know you as being vivacious.

[Kath]

Like us, you know, energy vivacious. Like, what was it when you stood out and you had to talk to him for the first time? Tell us about those first.

[Peg]

I had the bomb suit on. I had the bomb suit on. The bomb didn't go off.

[Susan]

I know you tried.

[Peg]

So then we just did what we needed to do. I got dressed, and honestly, I can't remember two words I said to him.

[Susan]

But how about the women when you walked into the house? Just.

[Peg]

I was like, oh, shit. These are beautiful, gorgeous, accomplished women. And I'm really, really excited. Super excited for the whole entire experience.

[Kath]

So how much were you able to chat with him on the first night? Because you know how crazy that is. It's. There's a lot of women, not a lot of time. Did you get to chat?

[Peg]

Three minutes at the. At the.

[Jane Austin]

Three minutes.

[Peg]

It was three.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Peg]

And I asked him, I said, what are you looking for? I said, this is what I'm looking for. Because I went in with the idea of, is he good for me? Yeah, you're tal. You're handsome, you're successful. I dated that before. I wanted to get to know who he was inside and get to know if he was right for me in my life.

[Kath]

And you did that in three minutes. Peg, I'm really impressed.

[Susan]

I remember asking these questions, thinking, wow.

[Kath]

Yeah.

[Susan]

She wants to find out, is this a good fit for me? And I gotta be honest, it's obvious, and I admired it.

[Kath]

Yeah. Because that's who, you know, that's kind of who I. We are that way.

[Susan]

And I didn't do that the first night. My first three minutes. No, I didn't. I was just.

[Peg]

I said to him, I said, well, what are you looking for? This is what I'm looking for. And I said, what are you looking for? And he said, you.

[Susan]

I know, I know. That was cute.

[Kath]

That was very cute. Okay, so the first rosetime of year, you've been up all night, the whole day. Were you confident? Were you nervous? How were you feeling?

[Peg]

I was so nervous. You guys. We're in this process. We go from our normal life, so we get whooshed into this, you know, this process of, you know, this dating, you know, reality show. And my heart was just pounding a million miles a minute. And I think we. All the girls were nervous. We were just.

[Kath]

Come on.

[Susan]

Did you expect your name to be called? Did you think you were in it? Yes. Okay, that's good.

[Kath]

Good. Be honest.

[Commercial Narrator]

Confidence.

[Susan]

Yes.

[Kath]

Who was there? Anyone that left that you were surprised they left?

[Jane Austin]

Yes. Tracy.

[Peg]

I just love Tracy. Her and I are really good friends to this day, and I just loved her. And I was just. Yeah, I just couldn't wrap my brain around that one.

[Kath]

Yeah, I heard she's got a lot of hats.

[Susan]

She died. She was adorable.

[Kath]

All right, so we're gonna fast forward a little bit. You get the one on one last week. Let's just get right into this fun day. Let me just. In case, Peg, your memory is faulty, which I know it isn't. I never had a one on one date. Neither did Susan. So we're desperate to hear all about it. What were you feeling when you found out it would be you?

[Peg]

Well, I was excited because, you know, I did not go in to hear Guns a Blazin because I was not happy with that podcast. And you can ask my daughter. I was like, you know, I was not happy. I'm like, I've dated those guys. I don't want to date those narcissistic, egotistical asses anymore. I've been there, done that. So I really kind of I paused and I knew I was going to get some alone time with him. And when I did, at the OC Fair, we were eating our turkey legs and we were, you know, drinking our beer and stuff. And then we had a break and I went to him, I said, look, I need to ask you something. I said, I'm glad that you apologize to all the women. I get that. I said, but I need to know who you are. And I told him this. I said, if you are that guy on that podcast, I looked him directly in the eye. I said, I don't want to date you. I don't want to date you. I don't waste my time and I don't want to waste your time. And I'm sitting here like a little Chihuahua because I'm like, I'm not going to open up my heart. I've dated these guys before and all they do is rip your heart out and they leave you bleeding everywhere.

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[Diplo]

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[Kath]

Watching your date with Mel. He, like I said, the three of us, you know, we leave no prisoners. He looked like he was just watching you have a great time. Like, your energy, you could see that. He was like, wow, look at her energy. How did you feel about that? The whole thing?

[Peg]

You know what, you guys, I. After I got an apology from him personally and we talked about it a little bit, I realized he's not the guy that everybody's perceiving him to be. And I suspend judgment because I really wanted to know who was inside. Yeah, he's tall, good looking, all that great stuff. But are you right for me? Can you fit into my life? You know? And I just. I let down My guards and I just really started to have a good time. I have a lot of energy, you guys, and I annoy the shit out of a lot of people.

[Kath]

Raise your hand.

[Susan]

That's three of us. We said we're from the same mold.

[Kath]

Remember? The three of us. We both just all. Do you see us? We raised our hands in unison.

[Susan]

I mean, wait, I have a question. You were so full of energy, and I loved you knew every word to the song. And I was shocked to see kc. It didn't even look like kc. But was his energy matching yours? I did not see it, Mel. Yes.

[Peg]

Oh, hell no. You know, and I, I, I believe because, you know, getting to know him and, you know, he's nervous. He's a human being, you guys, just like we are. And he was, he was nervous as much as we were nervous, right? He's got this, you know, this little jumping bean, this little Tasmanian devil, and he's just like, what do I do with this?

[Kath]

Right?

[Susan]

He loved you being you, but you didn't seem nervous.

[Peg]

I was not nervous. I went in there, you guys, and I just, I wanted to be. Be me. You love me, you hate me.

[Jane Austin]

It.

[Peg]

I am who I am.

[Kath]

Can I just say, this has not worked well for me. I mean, I say the exact same things. I'm just putting that out there. I, I am who I am. And, and it's like, take me or leave me. The problem is they mostly leave me. But moving back to you.

[Peg]

But here's the thing. When somebody falls in love with you, they're going to fall in love with your authentic self. It's not that, it's not the representative. I don't want to fall in love with anybody's representative.

[Kath]

Oh, absolutely.

[Susan]

That's why I have to be 100% me to be real.

[Peg]

Kathy, keep being you. Somebody will come along.

[Kath]

Thank you, Peg. And you're going to make sure it happens. How did it feel opening up to Mel about your divorce? Was that hard?

[Peg]

No, it wasn't hard. His wife stepped out on the marriage, and my ex husband stepped out on the marriage.

[Susan]

So we.

[Peg]

That commonality and that hurt and that grief, and we understood each other.

[Susan]

But the best was the tattoo. Yeah, caring about the tattoo. Do you have any more?

[Kath]

Can we see it?

[Susan]

We could do that in the fantasy.

[Kath]

Can we see your tattoo? Can we see it? Where is it?

[Peg]

Tramp stamp, you guys. My husband had an affair, right? And I got a tattoo.

[Susan]

Kill me.

[Peg]

Whatever.

[Susan]

No, there's nothing wrong with it. But I love how you said. And I'LL show you.

[Kath]

Wait, don't you have a tattoo on your wrist with your daughter or something?

[Peg]

My Pisces. That's my Pisces girl right there.

[Kath]

Ah.

[Susan]

You know I'm a Pisces girl.

[Jane Austin]

Are you?

[Susan]

Yes.

[Peg]

I'm a cancer. So. Cancers in Pisces are like that.

[Kath]

Here I am, left out in the cold again. There it is. Kathy's gone again. Kathy, what are you? What do you think I am? Taurus the bull?

[Peg]

Oh, my sister. No, we get along as well too. You're just stubborn. I'm not.

[Kath]

I am not stubborn. No, I really am not. I'm not kidding. I'm strong willed. I'm not stubborn.

[Susan]

It's a better word.

[Commercial Narrator]

There you go.

[Kath]

I'm not. But. Okay, so.

[Susan]

But wait, wait. Did you think you were. Did you even think about the possibility of getting that date rose that night? Or is that furthest thing for your.

[Peg]

Mind from your mind? I was expecting them to call all the other girls. I was waiting for the other girls, you know, other women's names to be called. So I was a little taken back, to be honest with you.

[Susan]

No, no, I meant on your date. On your one. On one. When he gave you.

[Kath]

When he gave you the rose.

[Susan]

Yeah.

[Peg]

Oh, girl. We had some connection going on there.

[Jane Austin]

I knew.

[Kath]

I love this.

[Susan]

We both had that.

[Peg]

We looked. There was a moment that we both looked in each other's eyes and it was electrifying. And I was like, oh, shit, I'm in trouble.

[Kath]

I think we're gonna vomit.

[Susan]

Priceless.

[Kath]

Priceless.

[Susan]

Because when we met you, when we were there, you were at a different place. You hadn't had a one on one date yet.

[Kath]

We chatted and you said it on the show. You talked about chatty women and that. And I really. I empathize. Or I see myself in you as well. First of all, high energy, but also, you know, women. Groups of women to me are like, they're little, you know, stay away. That's how I am. And when you said you spent time in the firehouse with men, with all men, you know, I tend to get along with men better than women for the same reason. Like chatty. I hate to say Chatty Cathy's, but, you know, you said it and I wondered how was that?

[Peg]

Like, it was different, you guys. It wasn't good nor bad because there's no good and bad in life. It's just different. So I'm used to directness. I'm used to no bullshit with the guys. And then I come into the. Yeah. And you know, I. 25 years, you guys, I was with guys. That's a long time.

[Susan]

Yes, it is.

[Peg]

You know, one of the girls told me I needed to have more feathers. And I'm like, no, I don't. I don't. I like who I am. I like.

[Jane Austin]

I.

[Peg]

You know, and if you're like, your life, I'm honest, I'm direct, and I'm no bullshit, kind of.

[Kath]

And I'll tell you, Peg, what my line is. When men say to me I'm too much, I say to them, no, no, no, I'm not too much. You're just not enough for me.

[Susan]

You go.

[Kath]

And that's. That's truly what I think. So. Okay, so the drama with Nicole, by the way, we've renamed.

[Susan]

Just wait, wait, wait. Tell me how you felt with the pool party going on. Please.

[Peg]

You guys, you're gonna laugh. You're gonna laugh so hard.

[Kath]

You laugh so hard.

[Susan]

Right?

[Peg]

So you guys know how hard production is.

[Susan]

It is hard.

[Peg]

You know, if all those people out there knew what we went through. 15 hours a day, 17 hours a day of filming. You're exhausted. You've got your adrenaline running. There's a whole other world to this. After the. The rose, the first rose, after we did the cheerleading competition, and then we come back to do the pool party, and I'm exhausted, right? So I do my couple of cannonballs in the.

[Susan]

Great.

[Peg]

I went and took a nap.

[Susan]

All right, I have to use the ladies room. I'll be back. And when they find you, you had your power nap by that.

[Kath]

Okay, But I. So Susan and I.

[Peg]

So I missed the entire drama. So they woke me up.

[Kath]

They come on the door, and they're like.

[Susan]

They're like, you got to get up.

[Peg]

So I'm like this.

[Kath]

I'm just.

[Peg]

I'm sleeping. I got glue out of my mouth. I got the sleep in my eyes, and I'm like, okay, let's go.

[Kath]

Let's go.

[Peg]

And that was.

[Susan]

How did the women tell you? Like, she was all over them on the pool like a climbing tree, I think they said.

[Jane Austin]

Yeah.

[Peg]

You know what, you guys, I just don't pay attention to that stuff. And that's the truth. I just.

[Kath]

That's because you're confident. That's because you're confident.

[Jane Austin]

Yes.

[Peg]

There for Mel. I wasn't there for woman drama. I was really there to see if this man, there was a connection, my life, you know?

[Kath]

Right.

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[Bailey Zimmerman]

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[Susan]

So your first impression when you met all the women, and I'm speaking of Nicole right now, did it change over time?

[Peg]

Well, I had the closet. I had the big room, and Nicole was in the room.

[Kath]

So did we.

[Susan]

Yeah, I've heard.

[Peg]

So I want to have a podcast that says inside the closet.

[Kath]

In the big room, I was going to say. Or words from the big closet.

[Jane Austin]

Yeah.

[Peg]

So you really get to know these women once you have. I had Nicole, and I had Cheryl, and I had Debbie. I had Carla. I had all of us in there. So let me just put it this way. Who Nicole was at the house was a little bit different than now. Who I'm seeing, who she is.

[Kath]

Well, and so we are struggling because our show, we felt, was pure. So this whole thing of monetizing, becoming an influencer, this whole shtick that she's producing even yet now online, how do you feel about those things that she said about, you know, I'm kissing for America and, you know, the women on the first season, how do you feel about that, that whole scenario?

[Peg]

Here's how I feel about it. You know what? Everybody has motives in life, and we all have to make a buck, but don't come on a dating show and take somebody else's spot that's truly there to find love.

[Kath]

Oh, my God. We love you, Peg.

[Susan]

That's perfect. Well said.

[Peg]

I have a problem. She wants to go and be an influencer. Go do your thing because you took somebody else's spot like me and like you guys saw on tv, I just. Nice guy.

[Kath]

Did anyone confront her? Did you. Did anyone confront Nicole and say, hey, girlfriend, wrong thing to say about the women from season one. Wrong thing to be here. You know, here.

[Susan]

You don't have to give us names.

[Kath]

No. Yeah, I don't have to give a statement, but did anyone confront her?

[Peg]

I will when I see her, you know, I will tell her. That was very rude. It was.

[Susan]

What's been said is she was a lot of fun in the house. She did people's makeup. Like, she was good in the beginning until all that started coming out.

[Kath]

We were there because we were the first ones. We didn't know what influencing was. We were there to find love. So now your second season, you people have watched it, right? So you know what can come of it. Susan and I did not know we were going to have a podcast. We did not know where our lives were going to be. But I want to know if any of the other Women wanted, like, told her to chill out. Did anyone. When you came back for your one on one, were people like, oh, you won't believe what Nicole said.

[Susan]

Guess what she did or said.

[Kath]

I mean, you don't have to give names, but if you want to feel free.

[Peg]

You saw Cindy talking about it and you saw, you saw Robin about it.

[Jane Austin]

Yes.

[Peg]

And I, you know, to be honest with me personally, you guys, I got bored with it. I'm like, bye, I'm gonna go take another nap.

[Susan]

I don't have time for this.

[Peg]

Yeah, I don't have time for this. My focus is Mel and that's why I'm here. But those guys dove into it and I really wish they would have called, gave Mel the name because I think.

[Susan]

From seasons past, that person that does the telling never ends up good for them. And I thought she handled it well. I did. She planted that seed. She said there's things going on. I'm not going to be the Chatty Cathy girl that comes and tells you.

[Peg]

All the, you know what, you guys, come on, we're 60 year old women. You know, say, hey, look, Nicole's here not for the right reason. This is what I heard. Now what you do with this information is your business. But I need to tell you that because I am a woman of integrity and self respect and self dignity. That's how you know.

[Kath]

But what Susan said is true. It never plays well for the person who, who quote unquote, rats him out. And, and you're. It's just so interesting, I have to say personally, it is so interesting hearing.

[Susan]

Your take because she could give a less.

[Kath]

Well, none of us, we didn't care either. I mean, I was in the stupid drama, but we didn't care. Like we knew that, that how quickly we forget his name.

[Susan]

Gary.

[Kath]

Gary was not our guy. But I think that's the right way to play it. Right?

[Susan]

Yeah, it is. Absolutely.

[Kath]

All right, so this week you guys have the final group date before hometowns. How were you feeling going into this week?

[Peg]

Coming in, going into our final group date? I'm excited, you guys. I'm really excited because I know Mel and I have a connection and I can feel it. And I know you.

[Commercial Narrator]

He feels it.

[Peg]

And you know, when we look at each other, there's that electric kind of a connection between us.

[Kath]

So you don't focus. I'm, I mean, I don't know because I wasn't there if he has connections with other women.

[Peg]

So.

[Susan]

You took the words right out of my mouth. Did you, did you feel Any certain way when he was kissing Cindy or going somewhere with.

[Peg]

Honestly, you guys, I just, really, honestly, I just focused on that connection with him. And I. And I knew in my heart, deep down in my soul, that we had some. Something special. I felt it. I felt it at our one on one date.

[Kath]

So wait, how was it on your one on one time on the group date? Because we saw it on the. On your one on one, we saw you having a blast. But when you did, you were in the mud bath. Tell me, how did that feel? Because the fact that you got to do that on that group date was pretty amazing. I thought, I loved it.

[Peg]

I got. We had so much fun. We giggled and laughed. And that's one thing about our connection is it's fun and it's, it's light heartedness. There's no any of that other stuff. It's just we're enjoying life. And I told him in the beginning, our heavy lifting, it's over with. We raised the kids, we've done the career, we've put them through college. You know, now it's time to really just enjoy each other and enjoy life.

[Kath]

How many kids do you have, Peg?

[Susan]

1.28Dakota and I love that you made me cry. She got all teared up when the kids were.

[Kath]

Oh, I know. Yeah. We were saying you. How lucky were you that you got to see your kid on the show? Yeah, we didn't get that. So tell us about your hometown. What's it gonna mean to you? Tell us.

[Susan]

Oh, wait, when he did you. Well, obviously you felt a connection. Were you surprised at who he didn't pick?

[Kath]

When you mean for hometowns.

[Jane Austin]

No.

[Susan]

With the two that left.

[Kath]

Yeah. You were not surprised. Well, and the next question, as a.

[Susan]

Journalist, why and Cindy and. And Debbie were going to be there with you?

[Kath]

Yes, I knew.

[Podcast Announcer]

I knew that.

[Kath]

Tell me why. Why were you not. We were surprised that Cheryl didn't stick around.

[Peg]

I just getting to know Mel a lot, you guys, because our one on one date was 10 hours, so I got to spend a lot of time with him. 10 hours. So I, it is, it's lucky. So I really got to know him. And when I, you know, when you get to know somebody, I just knew that that connection wasn't strong enough with Cheryl. Nor that.

[Kath]

Okay, we're getting a little short on time. Come on, tease us. Tell us about your hometown date. What's it gonna be like?

[Peg]

It's gonna be so fun. You guys stay tuned because I take him to the firehouse.

[Susan]

Of course he doesn't Touch a bomb, does he? No.

[Peg]

No, he doesn't.

[Kath]

Wait, is your firehouse have the. Have. You know how they don't have the things anymore, the poles? Is there a pole at yours you.

[Peg]

Can touch this bomb.

[Kath]

You know what, Peg? I think I just fell in love with you.

[Susan]

I told you I love it.

[Kath]

Wait, do you have a pole at your firehouse?

[Susan]

Have a poll.

[Peg]

So I used to joke all the time, and people said, what'd you do for a career? You know, I'm like, why? I danced. You know, I had. I.

[Jane Austin]

What did I have?

[Kath]

I used to say I hung around on a pole.

[Susan]

I slid down the pole.

[Peg]

Being from Vegas, right? Being in Vegas, like, yes, I slid down the pole, you guys, in 1992. That's what I did. We slid down.

[Susan]

I love this. All right, in one word, how would you describe your experience on the show, on the Golden Bachelor in one word, what would that word be?

[Peg]

Amazing. Amazing.

[Kath]

Okay. I mean, you could see it just. It just. Your experience from what we've seen so far, looks incredible, and I can't wait to see your hometown. Okay, if you were. We always ask this question, Peg. If you were stuck. And by the way, I'm just gonna tell you, two of the names are Susan and Kathy. So think carefully about the third. If you were stuck on a deserted island and could only take three. Three women from your season. So not us. Who would they be?

[Peg]

It would be Terri, Tracy, and Debbie.

[Susan]

And why?

[Peg]

Just because I love them and they're super smart women, and I think we could, you know, put all our little intellect together and we would survive.

[Susan]

Each one different than the next. One would be a humor factor. One would be, she's gonna know how to start a fire. Oh, no, that's you.

[Kath]

No, she knows how to put it out. Are they your besties from the.

[Susan]

They are.

[Peg]

I just love them dearly.

[Kath]

So wait, Debbie, Tracy, and who else?

[Jane Austin]

Terry.

[Kath]

And Terry from Houston's my number one.

[Peg]

Her and I, we just bonded right away in the house.

[Kath]

That's how we were. That's how we were. That's how we were.

[Susan]

All right, now it's your turn. I love saying this, Captain.

[Kath]

Oh, I know. Go for it, Sza.

[Susan]

Do you. We got to ask you a ton of questions. Do you have any questions for us?

[Jane Austin]

Yes.

[Peg]

Who did your facelifts?

[Kath]

Cause I need.

[Peg]

I needed a little tuck. You guys look so good.

[Susan]

It's just the mini. Yes, and it's wonderful. I'll tell you all about it.

[Kath]

Peg. I'm gonna. Honestly, I'm gonna Say this to you. Yes. I've had a little bit of work done. Both of us have. Not major.

[Susan]

Minis. Minis.

[Commercial Narrator]

Minis.

[Susan]

I wish I could do what Christina has.

[Kath]

You are stunningly beautiful. You know, my whole thing is about women empowering women. You are absolutely gorgeous. So do whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better, but do it to make yourself feel better, because you are beautiful, so you don't need it.

[Susan]

I need to know. How old are you? 62.

[Kath]

62.

[Susan]

You are a perfect example. What? Women of your same age, just proving to them that life is not over. The experience that you just had. I mean, not everybody's going to end up on a show like we say, you know, but get up and live again. I mean, you're a perfect example.

[Kath]

Pure smile, pure happiness, and your energy is infectious. And we want you to join our crowd because you are.

[Susan]

You're one of us.

[Kath]

You're one of us. Okay, well, this. I hate to say it, but this was so much fun. And thank you, Peg. You are a wonderful person, wonderful guest. It was so nice getting to know you more.

[Peg]

Thank you, ladies, very much. I really appreciate it. It was a lot of fun.

[Susan]

Thank you. Well, we're gonna have you back again. We're gonna have to, because I can't wait to see these hometowns. We're gonna. And thank you, everybody, for tuning in this week. Make sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming out every week, and you don't want to miss them.

[Kath]

You do not. So listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's golden hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

[Susan]

Until next time, have a great week.

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[Bobby Bones]

The Bobby Bones Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together, Diplo?

[Diplo]

I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus and we had like three hours.

[Bailey Zimmerman]

It was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house and I'm like, oh hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.

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