A different look this week as Kath Loughnan joins the BackChat team to interview Michael Vaughan!

Athletes are remembered for their greatest moments. For Vaughan, that's captaining England to an Ashes series win in 2005, arguably the greatest Test series ever played. England's first Ashes win since 1987, ending an 18-year losing streak. The series pulled in new fans and, as Vaughan puts it, made cricket cool.

But he's a lot more than an Ashes-winning captain. He's a husband, father, and one of the sharpest voices in cricket media. On Fox Cricket he says what he actually thinks, and people respect him for it.

This episode gets into leadership, knowing the person not just the athlete, and the advice Vaughan gives his own kids: keep things level, don't let social media convince you life is all good all the time, and take a glass-half-full approach, especially when things aren't going your way...

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