Chaunce's Live Podcast Sendoff in Denver (BPR #365)

Summary

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Backpacker Radio Episode #365: Chaunce’s Live Podcast Sendoff in Denver

Podcast: Backpacker Radio
Hosts: Zach "Badger" Davis & Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey
Date: July 13, 2026
Venue: Skylark Lounge, Denver
Special Guests: Fireball, Elise (Sauce), Sass, Frass, Jolly, Jabba

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Episode Overview

This episode serves as a live, raucous, and heartfelt sendoff for co-host Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey, who is relocating from Colorado to North Carolina. Forgoing typical trail talk, Zach and Chaunce celebrate with close friends, community members, games, shots, and a parade of tales that span their years together on and off the trail. Expect candid behind-the-scenes stories, inside jokes, wild energy, and emotional moments.

"If this is the first Backpacker Radio episode that you're listening to, I regret to inform you there's probably not going to be any backpack in this one whatsoever. It's gonna be fun."
— Zach Badger Davis [07:01]

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• [04:07] Opening & Introduction: The Sendoff for Chaunce
• [07:30] First Guest: Fireball Joins the Newlywed Game
• [32:19] Second Guest: Elise (Sauce) Takes the Stage — Triple Crown of Crisis Management
• [55:40] Triple Crown: Favorite Chaunce Moments
• [75:10] Game: Two Lies and a Truth
• [105:03] Judge Jolly Debate: Chaunce vs. Jabba
• [155:05] Farewell & Surprises: Chaunce’s Gifts and Final Tributes

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Section Summaries

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Chaunce’s Sendoff & Introductions

[04:07–07:01]

• Zach welcomes the live audience, emphasizing that this episode revolves around Chaunce, her contributions, and memories.
• Announces the need for new guest co-hosts and invites audience input.
• Chaunce jokes about the "sandbox to litter box" evolution of the show.

"The point of the show is Chaunce. Imagine Rachel speaking directly to you here. Thank you for your endless late night creative energy, your carnival barking, your openness and vulnerability."
— Zach Badger Davis [06:03]

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Newlywed Game — Chaunce & Fireball

[07:30–32:19]

Format: Zach quizzes Chaunce and Fireball, close friends who have hiked many miles together, on how well they know each other. The loser of each question drinks.

Highlights:

• Where Did You First Meet? [09:35]
  • Confessional at The Priest shelter on the AT, complete with a memorable poop story.
  • ”She had actively shinned her pants.” — Chaunce [12:12]
  • Winner: Chaunce, for the detailed memory.
• More Likely On Trail… Series: [13:38 onward]
  • Talk to a stranger? (After three beers, always Chaunce.)
  • Cry on trail? (Unanimous: Chaunce. “Juliana will be like, can I come in your tent and snuggle? And I'm like, absolutely not.” — Fireball [17:09])
  • Get hurt? (Both point to Chaunce.)
  • Skinny dip? (Fireball — with an epic JMT nude photoshoot and an accidental tourist bus viewing. [22:03])
  • Openly fart? (More Chaunce, but Fireball gets shy despite shitting her pants.)
  • Win in a fight? (Fireball, "I'm kind of scrappy, and my boyfriend’s a wrestler, too." [28:58])
• Favorite Chaunce Memory: [29:35]
  • Chaunce once made Fireball hot chocolate and breakfast at camp, showing off her generous side.

Memorable Quotes:

• ”Your friend has left the meeting point. She said she’s going to keep going. She’ll see you at camp. You’re so slow… Oh, she didn’t say that.”
  — Fireball [16:14]
• “I’m like a fox that wants to be domesticated. I’m really trying.”
  — Chaunce [19:45]

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Triple Crown — Crisis Management with Elise

[32:19–55:40]

Elise, aka Sauce, brings her Triple Crown of Backpacker Radio Behind-the-Scenes Crisis Management (and bonus honorable mentions).

1. The Live Show Concussion
[36:19]
Elise recounts a wild work trip night in Wisconsin when Chaunce face-planted during a drunken piggyback ride gone wrong. Elise, panicked, called her nurse-mom at 3am to check for concussion protocol—and kept Chaunce awake at intervals.
”I turned her over to make sure she had all her teeth… If you didn’t respond, I guess I’d call 911.”
— Elise [37:35]

2. Social Media Fiascos
[45:26]
Notable blowback over a clip where Chaunce opined that carrying a gun untrained wasn’t smart. Elise read out both mean and witty internet comments, replying with Backpacker Radio’s signature snark.

• ”Someone just commented: Women. And I responded: Men.”
  — Elise [46:46]

3. The Pulled Episode
[48:31]
The time BPR yanked a sex-positive guest’s episode, sparking outrage on all sides—pro and con—especially since it was followed by an episode with a pastor.
”People think we planned that—to rinse the palate of dirty stuff.”
— Zach [51:23]

• Elise's job satisfaction reports: “8 out of 10, 9 out of 10… 10 out of 10.” [54:41]

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The Triple Crown of Favorite Chaunce Moments

[55:40–75:10]

Hosts and friends each share their most iconic Chaunce memories.

Zach:

• The Underwear Bet (Wisconsin Trip) [57:06]
  • After losing a bet, Chaunce walked a mile in underwear reading “With an ass like this, who needs big tits?” and auctioned them off for charity.

Elise:

• Car Breakdown in Wyoming [59:46]

  • On their way to hike the Teton Crest Trail, Elise’s car broke down; Chaunce handled the situation with humor and support, even offering her prescription propanolol.
  • “Now you’re getting a taste of misinterpreting the Triple Crown. It’s not just me.” — Chaunce [55:49]

• Girls’ Night on the Northville Placid Trail [62:16]

  • After Zach rolled his ankle, Chaunce and Elise bonded, made a fire, conducted a “witchy seance,” and peed next to Chaunce’s dad’s truck.

Audience Add-ins:

• Chaunce’s comfort peeing in public — even on her own engagement day, much to her now-husband’s amusement. [71:03]

Emotional Sendoff

[74:32]

• "Like, truly, you’re such a unique thinker and such an incredible person. I’ve really enjoyed being able to work with you these past few years.”
  — Elise

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Game: Two Lies and a Truth

[75:10–105:03]

Chaunce, Zach, and Jess each try to stump the others with outrageous life stories. Audience and panel guesses wrong = drink.

Sample highlights:

• Zach’s truth: At 16, in a panic, he drove through a toll booth arm, leaving yellow paint on the family car. [83:53]
• Jess’s truth: She landed her first real internship by writing a cover letter addressed to “Pete Wentz’s Dick.” [92:07]
• Chaunce’s truth: She once accidentally set her puppy Harper on fire (Harper is fine). [103:22]

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Judge Jolly: Debates Gone Off the Rails [105:03–154:10]

Jolly hosts the most contentious and audience-driven segment: Chaunce vs. Jabba in a series of hot takes and would-you-rathers—winner decided by Jolly and the crowd (amid escalating tequila shots).

• Most Overrated Thru-Hiking Gear?

  • Chaunce: Stuff sacks
  • Jabba: Trowels
  • Winner: Chaunce (by judge and crowd)

• Which Trail is Worse, AT or PCT?

  • Jabba: PCT (AT is the pure, hard-earned experience)
  • Chaunce: AT (nostalgia vs. objective outsider experience)
  • Split: Judge sides with Jabba, crowd with Chaunce

• Hardest Poop for a Million Dollars?

  • Chaunce: Would absolutely use ONLY gas station bathrooms for a year for $1 million
  • Jabba: No way, life’s too short to spend a year in gas stations
  • Winner: Jabba (by Jolly, crowd wildly split, Chaunce happily volunteers for such a challenge)

• Coexisting in an 800 Sq. Ft. Apartment for $1M (Six Months) or Never Speak Again for $1,000?

  • Chaunce & Jabba: Both agree—mutual stubbornness & the lure of money means they’d make it, together.
  • "We will feud, but we will put our feuds aside in the name of mutual money earnings." — Chaunce [142:14]

• Would You Tell Your Past Self One Thing or Ask Your Future Self One Question?

  • Chaunce: Neither; don’t mess with the butterfly effect.
  • Jabba: Forced to choose, would ask his future self about making money; also regrets things he did to his parents.

Judge: Prizes and points are nearly irrelevant—everybody’s a winner (or loser, and mostly drunk).

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Gifts and Farewell Tributes

[155:05–175:13]

• Video & Audio Mashup:

  • Chaunce’s partner and the whole room are treated to a hilarious, lovingly-assembled montage of her wildest “greatest hits” from the past nine years on the podcast, highlighting her unfiltered personality and classic moments (“It's like a fun experience in your mouth.” [156:13]).

• Personal Present:

  • The BPR team gifts Chaunce a custom photo book, with special thanks to Elise for making it.
  • Chaunce admits (humorously, at last) that the story of lighting her dog on fire involved lighting a bowl—not a candle.

• Emotional Mailbag:

  • Listeners send messages of appreciation, best wishes, and favorite Chaunce memories.
  • "Thank you, Chaunce, for the incredibly significant part you've played in bringing me into this life changing community." — Listener Jackson Storm [164:53]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "I'm like a fox that wants to be domesticated. I'm really trying.” — Chaunce [19:45]
• “Your friend has left the meeting point. She said she’s going to keep going. She’ll see you at camp. You’re so slow… Oh, she didn’t say that.” — Fireball [16:14]
• "We will feud, but we will put our feuds aside in the name of mutual money earnings." — Chaunce [142:14]
• "Who am I to tell me what to do? I don't know what I'll be doing then." — Chaunce [149:40]
• "You have a briefcase that opens on both sides…and it's got a handle. I had options on Amazon. It's prime days.” — Zach [21:44]
• “If anyone has a spare million, I am eager—not just willing, I am eager.” — Chaunce [136:13]

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Episode Tone and Style

Full-on chaotic, comedic, and deeply affectionate. The cast trades jabs, tells embarrassing stories (about poop mishaps, peeing next to cars, nude waterfalls, and chaotic gear management), but also gets heartfelt about how much Chaunce has meant to the show and community. Frequent irreverent asides, crowd heckling, and tequila shots accelerate the shenanigans.

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Takeaways

• This episode is pure Backpacker Radio community—inside jokes, real trail memories, and love for the weirdness and wildness of thru-hiking culture.
• Listeners new and old are reminded how central Chaunce's wit, vulnerability, and chaotic energy have been to the show.
• Despite the wild stories, the live games and debates, and all the bodily function confessions, the core is genuine appreciation and trail family.

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Not to Miss!

• [22:03] JMT Nude Waterfall Incident
• [36:19] The Legendary Concussion Protocol
• [62:16] “Girls Night” Northville Placid Trail
• [103:22] Two Lies & a Truth—Puppy on Fire Confession
• [149:40] Chaunce’s Butterfly Effect Philosophy
• [156:09] Paulie’s Mashup of Chaunce’s Greatest Quotes
• [164:53] Listener Jackson Storm’s Tribute Letter

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Final Cheers

To Chaunce: for peeing by cars, getting kicked out of bars, and making the podcast a party and a family.

"To fading in the mist." — Chaunce [183:24]

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To listen for yourself, check out Backpacker Radio, Episode 365.

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(For full hilarity and emotion, listen with a drink in hand and your hiking buddies by your side.)

Transcript

[Narrator/Host]

In today's episode of Backpack Radio, Present

[Zach Badger Davis]

of the Truck brought to you by Element.

[Narrator/Host]

We're live at the Skylark Lounge in Denver and we are giving Chaunce a proper send off for this one. We're joined by Fireball, Elise, Sass, Frass, Jolly, and of course Jabba. This one is a grab bag of odd games, including the Newlywed Game, a triple crown of behind the scenes crisis management stories. We play two Lies and a Truth and Jolly hosts a highly contentious Judge Jolly debate between Chonks and Jabba. This one features some surprise cameos, tequila shots and and signature Chaunce moments. But first, if you've listened to this podcast for any period of time, I've sounded like a broken record about the importance of supplementing with electrolytes while backpacking. During my first hike, I landed in the hospital with a condition called hyponatremia, which is just a fancy term for low blood sodium levels. Symptoms included intense headaches, dizziness and generally feeling like a bag of Richards. This happened as a result of heavy sweating over consuming water and under consuming electrolytes. A couple of saline IVs and a hefty medical bill later and my energy was magically restored. Electrolytes and backpacking go together like peanut butter and jelly, which is why I'm thrilled to have Element as today's sponsor. Element is a science backed zero sugar electrolyte brand with enough sodium, potassium and magnesium to help you feel and perform your best on trail and beyond. No sugar, no artificial flavors, no dodgy ingredients. Just the stuff your body actually needs. And now they've got something new. 12 ounce sparkling waters, the same great electrolytes in a slim can built for the in between moments, the long drive to the trailhead town days, or just sitting at your desk trying to not feel like a zombie. There are four flavors Pineapple salt, lemonade salt, black cherry salt and orange salt. They're salty, bright and crisp. Honestly a great swap for anyone trying to ditch their sodas without giving up something they actually enjoy drinking. Free Stuff Alert Backpacker Radio listeners can score a free sample pack that's eight stick packs across four flavors with any purchase by going to drinklmnt.com trek Again, that's DrinkElement lmnt.com trek no coupon code necessary, but you do have to use the URL and it's only good for a limited time. If you've listened to Backpacker Radio for any amount of time, you know that Chaunce and I are big fans fans of gossamer gear and today I Want

[Zach Badger Davis]

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[Narrator/Host]

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[Zach Badger Davis]

Welcome to backpacker radio present by the trek, brought to you by element. I am your co host zach badger davis. Sitting to my 12 o' clock for maybe the last time as a colorado

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

resident is I am juliana chauncey, aka chaunce.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Reminders will be brief here because this is not the point of the show. The point of the show is Chaunce. But I want to say if you guys have guest suggestions, please let us know. There's a form for that. Also, since Chaunce is betraying us and moving two time zones to the east, we are also soliciting guest co hosts. The opportunity to do that will be through the link in the show notes as well. The next is if you want the best from the Trek, you can get that through the Trek's newsletter. That's the best content. We've got job openings through there. I have a new full time job I think that's going to launch sometime at the end of Q3 exclusive gear discounts. We just ran one with a company that's not a sponsor of the podcast, so I'm not going to shout them out. But all good stuff is happening through the Trex newsletter. The link to get on that is in the show notes. And last but not least is patreon.com backpackerinos where you can get every episode advertisement free. It's also where you will continue to hear Tron voice.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yes, it will be our litter box so you can come watch us play

[Zach Badger Davis]

and we're from sandbox to litter box. Now we're taking dumps in there.

[Fireball]

I don't know.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We shit where we wait.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's gotta be polished, you know, so it's kind of like the litter box of a sandbox. This is the sandbox.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'd like to think that the podcast is our litter box.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The podcast is a sandbox. Slightly more clean.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Like you would put your kids in a sandbox. You won't put your kids in the sandbox.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Although ironic, given all the poop stories that we've done over the years.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Would you put your kids in a litter box?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Depends on date.

[Fireball]

If you don't say no, I'm gonna

[Elise]

ask you to prove it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Jenna's gonna be mad at you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I mean, just the size logistics would be challenging, but.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So it's not a no?

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's not a no.

[Elise]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Someone follow through on that.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, I will, Definitely.

[Elise]

Thank you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

DCFS patreon.com backpackerradio okay, we're gonna get to the meat of the show. The reason that everyone is here, here for our awesome live podcast at the Skylark here in Denver. This is an interview. We'll call it a extravaganza with Juliana Chauncey, AKA Chaunce. I'm reading this verbatim. I swear to God is 100%, without a doubt, Rachel's favorite member of the Backpacker Radio crew. And she's not just saying that because Chaunce was half of her boss the last four years. Chaunce. Imagine Rachel speaking directly to you here. Thank you for your endless late night creative energy, your carnival barking, your openness and vulnerability. You've been making be part of the BPR. So much fun. Love you, girl. And also, in April 2025, you offered me a free meal in Sacramento and you still owe me.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's true. On my next work trip. I haven't gone on one since.

[Zach Badger Davis]

She's got a very good memory.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, that was really nice.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's Steel Trap.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. Well, that's why she does this so well.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, so today's episode is an oddball. If you're listening to this, if this is the first Backpacker Radio episode that you're listening to, I regret to inform you there's probably not going to be any backpack in this one whatsoever. It's gonna be fun. We've got some games involved. We've got some dry boards here. We've got some alcohol, We've got some fun guests. And the first fun guest that I'd like to introduce to the stage is none Other than your bff Fireball.

[Fireball]

You told me you didn't even know you could come. Are you kidding? Yeah, man.

[Elise]

Are you kidding?

[Fireball]

Hi. How are you? Yeah,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

let me get you a microphone here. Hello. She's dating my housemate, and they're leaving at the booty crack of dawn tomorrow, and I thought you can only come for the pre Thing. Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'm just now learning that the Internet's not working, but it's okay. We're tethering to my phone. I want to start with. No, we'll end with that. Today we're going to play a game. The Newlywed Game. Chance, I know you're familiar with this because we've done this during the Valentine's Day episodes in the past. You guys have spent countless miles backpacking with one another. Jmt, Ozark, Kylan's trail. You met on the at. What am I forgiving?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't know. I think we need to do another bike.

[Garrett]

Yes. The 18.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Fireball, come sit next to me because I need you on this board right here, which is integral to the Newlywed Game.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. Fireball is doing the AT southbound, and she leaves tomorrow in her car.

[Fireball]

It.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But then she's going to leave. She did it northbound in 2019. When I did it, that's where we met. And now she wants to go southbound.

[Jabba]

So that's what a Springer wins.

[Garrett]

We're jealous.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You're going to grab this board right here. You're going to grab that pen because you're going to get ready to write. I got a series of questions for both of you.

[Jolly]

Yep.

[Elise]

Where's the suitcase

[Zach Badger Davis]

that arrived via Amazon today? So I'm glad that prime is the old trustworthy.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did not put off thinking of these games.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, my first question for you two. Are you ready for it?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Where did you first meet? And be as specific as possible. Appalachian Trail does not count as an answer.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Someone hum something. The silence is not good.

[Jolly]

Yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

The Jeopardy music for the Newlywed Game, Obviously. That was before there was color on TVs. I will drink to that. Yeah, I guess I can Talk. That was 2011. If you've listened to the podcast for more than a couple of years, you already know that. Yeah, it was a different time back then since I started the at. Literally, ultralight was invented. Nobody that I hiked around had light packs. The lightest pack on the trail to base weight was like 25 pounds. And that person was an asshole. They were so light. Like, if you transported that person to the trail today, they would look like the biggest fucking doofus. So there's, like, a clear delineation in the world of backpacking. Before ultralight and after ultralight. I was B U L. I was a bull.

[Jabba]

I like to think of it. Pre got hook and Post got hooked.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's another one.

[Jolly]

That's another one.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah. Gut hook. What are we calling that? 2014, 16? I think we use it on the Colorado Trail in 15 as well, so.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Tell me, what are your secrets with this one?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Oh, this is just gonna say I

[Garrett]

feel like you both just used the whole.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You guys definitely made good on the instruction of using detail, because that is a paragraph. Okay, we'll take turns here. Fireball, you start. Flip over your board and give your answer.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So we met. Come on, Java.

[Garrett]

At the shelter atop the Priest. And Juliana was reading the priest entries, which are like confessions, Trail confessions. So we technically met there, but then we met at the road below the priest when my mom was doing trail magic. And then we hit the brewery after that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Is the priest right before Devil's Backbone?

[Garrett]

Yes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Is that right after. Right, it's right before.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Chauncey's already qualifying her answer. You can tell right now?

[Jabba]

Right after. Right after Shenandoah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Garrett]

The brewery was after the priest.

[Jabba]

Correct.

[Fireball]

Really?

[Garrett]

Yeah, like a day or two.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Mine's technically not wrong, but it's technically not right.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I've had a nickel for every time I've heard that.

[Fireball]

By the way, 10ish miles before Devil's

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Backbone, I passed her having lunch with her mom, but didn't meet her until the road intersection where she had actively shinned her pants.

[Garrett]

This is true.

[Jolly]

Whoa.

[Garrett]

I did. I did shin my pants.

[Jabba]

What happened?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, it was so sad. Cause it happened.

[Garrett]

No, it happened on the Descent of the Priest, so I couldn't even, like, write it in the, like, need to

[Zach Badger Davis]

backtrack to be like. Also, I got one more thing to add.

[Garrett]

And my mom was, like, doing trail magic at the bottom and was, like, chatting to all the hikers, and I was like, mom, we really need to go. And she's like, what? Like, what is the rush? And I was like, shit my pants.

[Fireball]

Like, we have to go.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

She was like, what? So, yeah, try to fart a little shit to me. 10 mile range.

[Garrett]

Correct.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I forgot the priest was in the middle. Yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So we both went. There should be an arbiter of points here. I'm going to give the point to Chauce, because how dare Fireball leave out the shitting the pants part of that. Most important part of that,

[Jolly]

I hope

[Zach Badger Davis]

Traunce enjoys your last point of the entire night.

[Jabba]

Just kidding.

[Zach Badger Davis]

And, yes, the loser has to drink. That's correct. Everything involves loser drinks.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Happily, you've got an early drag tomorrow, too, Ma'.

[Jolly]

Am.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I am intentionally delaying so you guys can erase those incredibly lengthy answers. As an author.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Right there. Get the world's smallest eraser.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Told you. Thought about this today. Cut me some slack. Okay? These are a little bit more straightforward. At least the next few. Who is more likely to talk to a stranger on trail?

[Garrett]

It's a hard one.

[Jess]

All right.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Three, two, one, flip. Okay, there's agreement there. I don't know what happens with agreement. I think you guys both drink.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah.

[Jabba]

Well, it's.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

After how many beers, Julian?

[Zach Badger Davis]

After three.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is true.

[Zach Badger Davis]

For those who are not hearing the crowd chatter, we're getting some intel from Chauncey's better half. That chance is much more outgoing.

[Garrett]

When we hiked the Ozark Highland Trail, Juliana was, like, hiking behind me a little bit, and I met this guy who was super weird, and I was like, oh, my God. My friend is actually, like, right behind me, hiking. You should totally say hi to her. She's this, like, cute, little, short, ginger girl. Like, you should definitely talk to her. And then he, like, bombarded Jules with,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

are you talking about the JMT going?

[Garrett]

No, the Ozark Highland Trail.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay. There was one time in the JMT where we're going up a hill. We had no cell reception. And, like, I'm a lot slower than her, and I take a lot of breaks because I can't breathe. And you had gotten to the top of this climb, wherever it had been, like, maybe three hours before me, because I just, like, could not make it up this hill. And she just starts on her way up, just asking people about me. They're like, hey. At first, she wasn't worried. She wasn't concerned where I was. She was doing this fuck with me. She was like, hey, my friend's up behind me. She's a redhead. She's like, I'm having a hard time off the climb. You should say hi to her. But she did that for everyone. And so I'm like, at the end of this last half mile, going up this line, and I already don't want to talk to people when I'm out of breath. And everyone wants to say hi to me now. And everyone's like, oh, my God.

[Fireball]

Hi.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What's going on?

[Fireball]

Your friend said, you might want to say hi. And I'm like, really? But then they started to change, and then it started Being like, your friend's concerned that you haven't gotten here yet. Your friend is wondering where you are. Your friend said, can you please hurry up? Your friend wants to go to camp and have dinner. And so, like, these people are just

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

coming, and they're continuing a story of,

[Fireball]

like, a, fucking with me, and then

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

B, being like, hey, your friend has left the meeting point.

[Fireball]

She said she's going to keep going.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

She'll see you at camp. You're so slow. Oh, she didn't say that.

[Elise]

You're so slow.

[Garrett]

Progressively getting more worried.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So at first it was really funny and also very much like, oh, my God, please stop. And then it became like, oh, my God, now she's actually kind of mad.

[Garrett]

Yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So classic goof.

[Elise]

Yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Who is more likely to cry on trail? Specifically on trail. Off. I know who. The answer is open to interpretation. Okay, reveal in three, two, one.

[Jabba]

Yeah,

[Zach Badger Davis]

they know each other too well. All right, for those listening, there's an arrow pointing to Tron. So then Tron's board said, me, Juliana,

[Garrett]

will be like, can I come in your tent and snuggle? And I'm like, absolutely not.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No chance. Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I feel like there's got to be more of a story there.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I've been asked in my imagination, there is.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I. I may have been asked to stop being so negative sometimes, but tensions are high. And you're true. It's true. I am three negative sometimes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Let's dig deeper into that.

[Fireball]

Well, I just like everything's doom and

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

gloom when I'm going up a hill. The sun's not shining. The world is bad. I hurt, you know, I can't. How am I supposed to find joy? Meanwhile, everything is rainbows and unicorns in her world. And then she sees this dark green cloud approaching, and she's like, what about trying to be sunny? And I'm like, yeah, that's a thought. I don't know how to do it.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Does it ever get challenging? Because I've never seen you anything other than a smile in my entire life. That's, like, your permanent face. Is it challenging when Chaunce is in a dark cloud mood, as she was in?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It can be. It can be.

[Garrett]

But normally, we're not hiking together during the day, so we only, like, really hang out, like, at nights and in the morning, so it doesn't really bother me.

[Elise]

We have our space.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Is that you intentionally trying to get ahead of the storm front?

[Garrett]

No, I just like to be alone. Like, when I hike. Like, I genuinely like to be alone. Yeah, it's Like, a spiritual experience for me as I hike. So I don't really like to hike with anyone.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We would both be miserable if we had to hike at each other's paces. It wouldn't work. But it's fun. It's fun hearing about her days because they're always very different than the way my days go. Like, I'm like, oh, my God. I, like, couldn't make it up this hill. And then there's something I was archivalist trail when we were supposed to. Couldn't make up this hill. And then finally, I got to where I thought the house was, and it wasn't there yet. And then he had to go all the way down here. And then I finally found the house. Then I got to hear, yeah, what did you do? And she's like, oh, I found the house. It was beautiful. And then there was this beautiful oak tree that was just speaking to me. So I sat underneath it, and I meditated for 10 minutes just with the tree.

[Fireball]

And I'm like, what the fuck did you do? I didn't see any of that. I didn't have a breath. It was hot. I was sweating.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It was miserable. I was counting the miles till I was done. And she's like, oh, yeah, it was wonderful. There was this kind of bird in the tree. And I just met the loveliest couple from Georgia. They're here on their honeymoon because they did this, that, and the other, you know, everyone's life story. It's fun hiking together because it could not be more opposite.

[Garrett]

And I bring her, like, little, like, treats. Like, little Reese's, like, cups. So, like, I'll, like, give her, like, a little treat at night, and she'll just be like,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm like a fox that wants to be domesticated. I'm, like, really trying.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Do you have a name for it? Like, Chaunce chocolates or anything?

[Garrett]

Ooh, Chaunce treats. I don't know. We need to name this.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's really making me feel like a cat.

[Jolly]

Yes.

[Garrett]

Chantal and Gretel. Ooh, I like that. Like that.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Next round, who is more likely to get hurt on trail? There's a lot of pondering happening right now. I have a feeling this is where the divergence is going to begin. Okay, on account of. 3, 2, 1.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay.

[Garrett]

That's a question mark, but it's upside down.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It doesn't seem like a question mark. Based on the arrow that's pointing at me.

[Garrett]

Maybe like, an Asian symbol of some sort.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Seems like you've thought of it.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Garrett]

I feel like both of us are pretty good at.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Not that arrow says otherwise. You have to have at least one story much.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Draw an arrow to me. I did. Yeah. I had to pick.

[Fireball]

Did you? Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You couldn't either.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Fight, fight, fight. Is there a story of Sean's getting hurt after him.

[Garrett]

Oh, neat. Lucky.

[Fireball]

I just get lost.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I just lose.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That was a question. I swapped it out for getting hurt, so that would have been a better question.

[Fireball]

You know what, Zach?

[Garrett]

Shrink.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, you're right.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Drake, when you write, haze him. Let's go back drunk. Drink. Yeah.

[Garrett]

What are you drinking? Does that matter?

[Fireball]

With a line.

[Zach Badger Davis]

All right, who. If you listen to prior podcasts, there's a story here is more likely to suggest skinny dipping. John scrapped her briefcase. Dry erase board. Very emphatically. She has her answer. It is a briefcase. It opens on both sides, and it's got a handle on top. Yeah, I had options on Amazon Prime. It's prime days right now.

[Garrett]

God damn it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It is prime days. I have really put a lot of

[Garrett]

things on my cart just, like, rating

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

so much on this one. Yeah, I'm telling a whole story here.

[Garrett]

Me, too. Really?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What's your story about? Hold on.

[Fireball]

I'm not done.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm not done. I'm almost done. Hurry up, though. I'm going as fast as I can.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I see artwork on both of these.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

There's no artwork. I'm just writing. I'm writing an essay.

[Garrett]

Such a big arrow.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Big arrow. Big, strong arrow. I think we both.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We both know the answer to this. I feel like this is probably insane. Three, two, one.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. You guys have heard. You've heard the.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I knew there was skinny dipping. I didn't know whose idea. I guess the fact that she's arriving first at every location.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You just heard the description of both of our personalities. And you think I'm the one suggesting it?

[Zach Badger Davis]

A few years, according to your husband. Pretty good.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm like, oh, there's my friend. She's naked.

[Garrett]

She did a nude photo shoot for me one time.

[Elise]

Oh, yeah?

[Garrett]

Very nice.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is the same hike or. This is a.

[Garrett]

It was the John Muir Trail at Tuolumne Falls outside of Yosemite. And we had always planned to, like, stop at the falls and, like, have a lunch and, like, lay out and swim and all that stuff. So there was nobody there for, like, an hour and a half. And so we were, like, you know, swimming, laying out, and then, you know, doing a little photo shoot, and then we were just both laying out and doing nothing. And then Juliana goes, oh, my God, look Up.

[Elise]

Cause who's been.

[Garrett]

Tuolumne Falls. Does anyone here. Ben. Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Who's ever laid naked on, like, a rock, just in water, like, feeling like a little salad, man, they're just like. That's what we were just like, ready? We are content. We're not clothed. The rock is warm, the tank is clean. We were good. And then we looked up. Okay, I'll tell them. Do you know those tourist buses that are full of lots of people, and they all go together from site to site, viewpoint to viewpoint, take a lot of photos, get back on the bus, and then go to the next one. And, like, sometimes there's three buses that follow each other, and they all stop at the same spots. I guess one of them had stopped, and there were a lot of people at the Viewpoint with cameras taking pictures. And we were at the View, and so there's a lot of nudes of us on the Internet somewhere in China, and there's really no way to rectify that. I just remember they were like, ooh, ooh. Like, this specimen in the View. They're like, look at these views.

[Fireball]

Weird.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Never seen your nipples before. These hippie girls. Yeah.

[Elise]

So.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Who is more likely to openly fart? For context, I've seen ch do it a lot. She's gotten a lot more comfortable in the last few years. Backpacker radio. She used to hide them. She used to conceal them.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Girls don't fart.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I've never hid them from you. Jenna knows I'm safe.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Chonks recently stuck her fingers under her armpit and really drammed them under my nostrils. That was more aggressive than any far

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

you, Mary Katherine Gallagher. Honestly, I think we could find at least one bang version for that on the Dark Web.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Start an auction here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, maybe. Yeah, right? I think so.

[Fireball]

And maybe I just do it more.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm kind of, like.

[Garrett]

I get, like, a little embarrassed.

[Elise]

Like, I get shaved farting.

[Zach Badger Davis]

She's the girl that shit her pants.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You do get shot sometimes.

[Garrett]

Well, you're not in through hanger unless

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

you shit your pants.

[Garrett]

That's kind of embarrassing.

[Fireball]

And all the times she came on

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

the show, she's never told that story.

[Garrett]

I'm not embarrassed about shitting my pants, but, like, I think farting embarrasses me more.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Her boyfriend's here tonight. Here, can you give this to Zach? It's from Jabba. He says you have to take it. Aw. Everyone cheer for Zach.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Who's that other one for?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Also for you. Whenever I take.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, we're not doing that. Someone else is taking. I'm not taking two to kill the shots.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, well, I'll wait for you, loser.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, we'll do that.

[Garrett]

Maybe Garrett should take it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No. Eh, Garrett's has.

[Fireball]

There he goes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Here, put that one near him too.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Not tequila. No, no, no. Evaporate over here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Do you know what it is? You said not tequila. I don't know what it is. He said a word and I couldn't understand it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Do they have malort here? Is that what I just drank?

[Jabba]

Gotcha.

[Fireball]

What word did you say? What is that word?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Say it slower.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Malord.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Malord.

[Fireball]

Yeah, like Malord.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Malort with a T3.

[Elise]

Malort.

[Garrett]

Malord.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, like, you know how they make grapes where they, like, stand in a press and press grapes down? Imagine that, but with stink bugs. That's how you make them.

[Fireball]

Ew.

[Jabba]

Yes.

[Jolly]

Terrible.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Someone barefoot, presses down stink. But no, not with that intro. No, thank you.

[Jabba]

You're going away. Gift from me. And also boring.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I am.

[Fireball]

I am.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's not bad.

[Fireball]

But you know what?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Then you have my part first.

[Zach Badger Davis]

First try.

[Fireball]

I'm going to stick to my good old bat.

[Garrett]

Do you want to help me?

[Fireball]

Last time we had a live podcast,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Last time we had a live podcast, we got the bill. What the happened? Because the bill was so high, and we went through the line items to see who was just, like, off the nice. And it was like, 18 shots of tequila. And we looked at each other like, has anyone done shots of tequila tonight? And just the thought in our mind came of, like, an image of Jabba doing tequila shots.

[Fireball]

We're like, he did 18 shots of tequila.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This might not surprise you, but he told me when he came here that he wasn't aware the podcast was upstairs, because by the time he got up here, he was already blackout drunk. That was before those tequila shots that you just referenced. I don't remember that at all. My drink's not even rinsing away the taste of stink bugs.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Fuck. That's terrible. That's really gross.

[Zach Badger Davis]

The Chicago in me wants to like it, but it's just objectively bad nature.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's nature.

[Garrett]

That's pretty neat.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is the last one. Okay, who is more likely to win in a fight? A physical confrontation? All right, all right. There's agreement there.

[Fireball]

What does yours say?

[Garrett]

It's me.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm just trying to.

[Garrett]

I'm like, trying to point it at me. Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Turn it upside down, hold it in both hands.

[Fireball]

I'm really.

[Garrett]

These boards are really hard for me.

[Fireball]

Oh, just like that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, There you go.

[Garrett]

Yes. The blonde hair, it's real.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I knew that was objectively the correct answer, but I thought that you'd be so.

[Fireball]

I'm so bigger than her, too.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If you've ever seen her pack and how heavy her pack is and how fast she goes up hills, I don't stand a chance.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No way.

[Garrett]

I grew up with two brothers, too, and they would just, like, beat the shit out of me when we were little, so I'm like.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm not.

[Garrett]

I'm, like, kind of scrappy, you know? And my boyfriend's a wrestler, too, so.

[Elise]

They wrestle. They wrestle.

[Fireball]

Should we shout out Your boyfriend?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Is he still here?

[Garrett]

No, he's definitely not here. He's still packing.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, that's what he gets for putting it off. Yeah, that's okay.

[Garrett]

Alas.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Thus concludes the Newlywed Game. I want to end with your favorite chaunce. Memory or story that has not been shared on the podcast. Previously. You've been on the podcast five times now. This is your fifth time.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, the answer.

[Garrett]

The answer I have was already shared.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We can pretend like it's a new one. Doesn't matter.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, well, no one here remembers it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

They've been drinking Malort all night.

[Garrett]

My favorite is the Tuolumne Falls one, like, with the nude Asian tourists.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We'll have that one again, though.

[Fireball]

Thank you.

[Garrett]

But another shout out was. It was raining on the jmt and it was, like, very cold and miserable. And Juliana, for the first time ever in our hiking experience, got to camp before me. I was probably meditating or something, and she started a fire for me. Do you remember this? You had, like, a fire going, and I was like. And then on. On that train, she also. One time, it was.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, she's a provider.

[Garrett]

It was really cold out, and she, like, made me a hot chocolate and delivered it right to my tent at, like, 5:00am and that's, like, the nicest thing. I don't know what anyone could ever do, so. There's so many, though.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's really nice of you to pick a big, kind one. There's a lot of ways you could have gone with that. You're welcome.

[Fireball]

Thanks.

[Garrett]

Those. Well, I have a selective memory.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Juliana Chanti, what is the story that you were worried she was going to share? I would like to hear.

[Garrett]

I don't even know. That's the problem.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I can't remember half the stuff.

[Garrett]

Well, the other one I was going to say is the guy that, like, saw you shitting. Those are kind of on my birthday on your Birthday.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

On my birthday. Yes.

[Garrett]

And the cookies.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But yes, that was.

[Garrett]

It was a beautiful day.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You made him a mud cake. That's nice.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Where are you going to turn that one to?

[Zach Badger Davis]

There's nowhere to go for mud cake. You're stuck at mud cake.

[Elise]

Good.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Fireball, thank you so much for being up here and playing the Newlywed Game with our sweet, sweet Julie. Is there anything else you want to say before you depart the stage? Maybe for the last time ever.

[Fireball]

Holy shit.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But you're not gonna have her back when I'm not here.

[Garrett]

What?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Maybe not.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

She's gone on five times.

[Fireball]

And now that Eileen on her back, you didn't like her the whole time. Mims, what are you saying is he

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

only had you on because of me? Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So.

[Fireball]

Right. He's saying that he just.

[Garrett]

He sounds like an opportunist.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

He does sound like an opportunist. He sounds like he's trying to.

[Jolly]

Truth hurts.

[Garrett]

I mean, remember the girl stuff episode? Remember the ratings on that one? Just saying.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is a business.

[Garrett]

This is a business.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Ratings.

[Fireball]

And on that. Okay, Fireball, just.

[Jolly]

Big dog, man.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Fireball]

Do you think I would win in a fight with her? No, not exactly.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'm afraid of her.

[Fireball]

Exactly.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You wouldn't win in a fight with her.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I would definitely not.

[Garrett]

Thank you guys so much. I love you. I love you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Let's get another cheer for Fireball. Okay, up next is definitely no stranger to backpacker radio land is none other than our sweet sauce, AKA Elise.

[Fireball]

We looked over there, and for the fastest of moments, I was like, are

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

you talking to Garrett?

[Zach Badger Davis]

What?

[Fireball]

You looked at Elise and she's standing next to Garrett.

[Elise]

And I was like, is he talking

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

to Garrett right now?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Jon's moving to Garrett's day, everyone.

[Elise]

I don't actually know which part of my part.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, this is.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

How many parts do you have?

[Zach Badger Davis]

We're doing a grab bag. We're doing a grab bag here. We tasked Elise with coming up with a pair of triple crowns.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh.

[Zach Badger Davis]

The first one is a solo job. That's the prompt that you need.

[Elise]

This one.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So this is a little bit of a behind the scenes thing. We'll see how much of this actually makes the podcast. If you're here, you're hearing it. If you're hearing it, you might not be hearing it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And if you're hearing your Garrett's friends and my friends and you've never listened to the podcast before. We put this onto the podcast app. So when we're doing the intro stuff in the beginning and not looking at you. It's because then this goes on the podcast.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't know if that's obvious, but it felt weird to do that if people didn't know.

[Elise]

I have no idea what you just said.

[Fireball]

Like, when we're doing the intro in

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

the beginning, like, we're not just doing a live podcast. Like, we're also recording it to put on the podcast app.

[Elise]

Yes. Yes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And so when we do the intro in the beginning and we're just looking at each other talking, like, that's kind of uncomfortable. If we're just talking to the crowd.

[Elise]

Yes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't know if Garrett's friends know

[Elise]

that, because I get where you're coming from now.

[Fireball]

Yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I don't know.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't think you're dumb. I just, like, didn't know.

[Garrett]

It was just, like.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I swear to God, a lot of

[Elise]

people listen to this posted on, like, Spotify and stuff.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Elise]

So. Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

But for those who don't know, Elise started in 20. 2020.

[Fireball]

Is that weird?

[Elise]

Because the first time we ever met, we never met again for like, a

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

year and a half.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We met, and then the world ended. No one is gonna blame you for that, but people are thinking it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Zach pulled the same thing he pulled when we found each other, where I didn't know that a hiker meetup was a interview, and there was a hiker meetup that we knew Elise was gonna be at. And he was like, there's this girl Elise that's gonna be at the sacred meetup. Try to talk to her.

[Elise]

See, I Lowkey knew, though, because I get where you're coming from. No one introduced it to me formally as an interview, but I was like. I applied for this position, and they were like, hey, yeah, come chat with us. And, like, I was like, I better be normal is okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, that. Yeah, that would put you in.

[Elise]

But I also, like, knew no one in Denver at the time. So I remember I was, like, walking up to people, like, looking for a circle that wasn't, like, enclosed. You know how, like, when you're in a. Yeah. And I actually think I talked to Katie Jackson at that. If it wasn't that one, it was one after that, but it was the same kind of situ. I didn't know a single soul. I shut up alone. I was, like, living in my cousin's office in her house in Aurora because Josh hadn't even moved to Denver yet. So I was like, I gotta make friends. And I talked to a few people, but then Covid hit, and so none Of I never talked to those people again. If you're listening to this, they're all dead.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We lost a lot of souls out there.

[Jabba]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

But Elisa's been with the team for six years now. Started as our intern, has been a guest co host a number of times. He's joined us on our road trips. She's seen all parts of the backpacker radio world more than anyone else behind the scenes.

[Elise]

That's such a pleasure.

[Zach Badger Davis]

She's seen more than I've seen. So I'm actually pretty excited for the

[Elise]

triple crown of crisis management behind the scenes. And I will say this was kind of hard to come up with things for because you guys are so chill. And also the listeners are typically chilling. So the only time there's ever like a quote unquote crisis is like if we hit a certain side of the Internet. And even then it's like, you guys are again, like, pretty. It's. I'm not going to argue with people about their opinions, so. But there's some funny comments that I've pulled to read for this.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Wait, is this a triple crown where we're all talking or are you telling us one thing?

[Elise]

I'm telling you three things.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Is how I interpret this because I'm not prepared. I never got show notes for this.

[Elise]

And then I do have, like, other bonus mentions if we want to get into those. But yeah, and then there's, you know, some in person stuff too. But you guys, you, you guys were there for those. So the first one actually is one of those in person moments. And I, I can't remember. We've beat a lot of this to death on the podcast, but one specific moment that I want to call out is when I called my mom at 3am about concussion protocol because my mom is in marriage.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Work trip stuff.

[Elise]

Yeah. Just typical. And I, I think an important aside to this is I remember being so proud that I wasn't calling my mom, that I was in crisis. I was like, I'm okay. I'm sorry. I'm calling you at three in the morning. And this is before I got my woofer. And as a side note, concussion protocol has changed since me and my mom had this conversation. You don't have to.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We did the wrong stuff is what you're saying.

[Elise]

I don't think we did anything wrong per se. You, like, don't have to.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Splashing bleach into our eyeballs was not.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Don't remember that.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I get the white swipe.

[Elise]

But, you know, back previous to whenever they changed it, you used to have to wake someone up every, like, hour to make sure that they weren't dead, I guess. I don't know what I would have done if you didn't respond. I guess called 911.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

For anyone that doesn't know, can you give the context of what happened?

[Elise]

Oh, I would love to.

[Fireball]

Ha, ha, ha.

[Elise]

My side of this story. No, it's not going to be a bad job. But don't worry, it's not going to be good either. It's okay. So the Wisconsin road trip first Backpacker Radio live podcast. So the context is Backpacker Radio has never done a lot of podcasts before. We're on the Wisconsin road trip. I think there were a lot of nerves all around, so. And also, as. As has been discussed in Wisconsin is kind of a place that it doesn't discourage drinking, let's say alcoholics.

[Jolly]

You can say it.

[Elise]

Yeah. And it was very encouraged. Like, you guys should have all these beers. The live podcast was at a brewery. It got. It escalated. Things escalated.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Travel got picked up by the head of the. I don't even know what you should be saying this.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. What was it called, Luke?

[Zach Badger Davis]

The Ice Age Trap?

[Elise]

What is that thing called?

[Garrett]

What he.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What was the thing called, though, that

[Elise]

he made you do where you smirt vodka?

[Zach Badger Davis]

And the first thing he did was take Jabba to the bar to snort vodka. They snorted vodka.

[Fireball]

Oh, I thought they put it in their eyeball.

[Elise]

They snorted vodka.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What was it called?

[Zach Badger Davis]

They put vodka through their nose.

[Garrett]

Yes.

[Fireball]

We saw them.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And he was like, we did Chili Willies. And we're like, what are those? Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

When you move to Wisconsin, that's customary when you cross state lines is you do a chili willy.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So needless to say, this wasn't just our fault.

[Elise]

Yeah, it wasn't.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I encouraged to drink heavily the whole

[Elise]

time, and then it was a problem. Problem when.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, it was.

[Elise]

So I actually, this is totally an aside, but I remember I went up to the bar at one point, I think you. I can't remember if you guys had specifically requested more drinks, but I remember I went up to say, like, hey, I'm getting drinks for. And they were like, they're cut off.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Wait, but who specifically?

[Elise]

They said they. Okay. They just said they. I don't know.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It was definitely both of you.

[Garrett]

Okay.

[Jolly]

For sure.

[Elise]

Anyway, that at the end of that night, we had gone to another bar and we were waiting for an Uber. And Chance. I don't. Chance was asking for a piggyback ride. Jabba offered a piggyback ride. There Was a miscommunication in that interaction. A dire miscommunication.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Elise]

And I think from what I remember, what happened is Jabba leaned really far down because she's short.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Elise]

And Chaunce leaped.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Cause he's tall.

[Elise]

Yes.

[Fireball]

Made sense.

[Elise]

And, yeah, it was, like, very reasonable actions on both ends. But what ended up happening was a very.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You could hear the sound of Chance's head.

[Elise]

No, I still hear that sound in my.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I've never heard it.

[Elise]

Chance's face hit the asphalt, and the first thing I did was turn her over to make sure she had all her teeth. Because I remember when I was, like, a kid, it's. You can save the teeth, you know,

[Fireball]

she had all her teeth.

[Elise]

She was fine.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I didn't know you could save them. I'm happy you tried. Yeah, well, you put them in.

[Elise]

Milk gets a whole bunch.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's friendship.

[Elise]

Yeah, well, I wasn't gonna let your teeth stay on the parts of the friendship.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Someone might not.

[Elise]

Anyway, so later that night, we had gotten home, we were safely home, and I called my mom because she's a nurse, and I wanted to make sure that I didn't let Chaunce, because I know in the past, like, if you're not supposed to let someone sleep after they have a concussion. And so I was really nervous. I was like, I don't want to let her die, like, in this bed next to me. I was a little. I was a little worked up, but my mom was like, yeah, just like, wake her up. You'd set an alarm for, like, every hour. And, like, you make sure the person's awake after every hour. And did you hear that? Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

What a good friend.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, she wasn't operating as a friend. She was operating as an employee on a trip.

[Elise]

Well, and as a friend.

[Fireball]

Well, yes, as a friend.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But, like, this is the segment on Crisis man, by the way.

[Elise]

Yes, that's true.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is a work trip.

[Elise]

Yeah, I guess it was like. That's the. Yeah, like, the legality.

[Zach Badger Davis]

If I sustained a concussion, I'm not getting a wake up every hour. It's like, well, if he died, he'd.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, we would start digging the hole.

[Fireball]

Push you in. Good night.

[Jabba]

I will sit over you, Zach.

[Elise]

Yeah, well, anyway, Jon wouldn't help, but

[Zach Badger Davis]

he was too busy puking on the air.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Rear carpets that we had to pay an extra fee. Do you remember the next morning, you and me were just sitting in the car, fully packed, like, this is the time they said to be in the car, and we sat in the car for, like, an hour and no one came out.

[Elise]

No, that wasn't that next morning. That was the second.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, whatever. The next. Whatever it was, it was time to go home.

[Elise]

The next morning was the game and

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

no one was coming out. And we were like, where are they? And eventually one of us went in to check and he was like, oh, Java threw up all over the rug.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Elise]

And I think you moved some deposit back. No, not only that, I think Jack

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

had to pay extra. Yes, yes.

[Elise]

Yeah. Ipso fact, but the takeaway from this is you no longer have to wake people up every hour. That's like not a thing anymore. Maybe for a tbi, but like, if it's a concussion, you're good. Like you can just let them sleep.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So you want to apologize for ruining your night of sleep is what you're saying?

[Elise]

Both of ours.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I guess I wouldn't have known.

[Elise]

I thought I slept right.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

She would just go.

[Elise]

Oh. And I'd be like, okay, cool.

[Jabba]

That was one of the most hungover mornings.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, and you smelled mustard all over my face. My bloody, cut up face. Do you remember? Yeah, Yeah.

[Elise]

I thought your nose was broken. I was very glad it wasn't. Do you remember what you said when you went in the bathroom that morning? Because I was trying to remember this for this podcast.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I looked like a crime scene.

[Elise]

Yeah, that's what it was.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I looked like.

[Elise]

She didn't know what happened yet.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No. I woke up and it was a blank slate, but my face felt less mobile than usual and I didn't know why. And so I stood up and I went to go to the bathroom and I looked in the mirror and I thought, huh, there's a lot of blood on my face. My tooth is missing a part of it.

[Elise]

We did clean you up a little bit too.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, no, you could. You did a great job.

[Elise]

Well, no, I'm not kidding. I'm just saying like that wasn't. Yeah.

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[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, that's a good one.

[Elise]

Slot. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Fireball]

What's next?

[Elise]

The rest are more tame, honestly. The other one is there was a clip that we posted from a tips podcast where you were talking about statistics of carrying a gun and why, if you're not trained.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Classic clickbait.

[Elise]

Yeah. Yeah, it was very clickbait and we definitely got that. The clickbait baited people for sure.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yes.

[Elise]

And basically your clip was saying, like, if you're not trained, it doesn't make sense to carry a gun, which I think is very logical.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No one wants me holding a gun. I'm not trained with. Anyone want to walk around with me while I'm holding one?

[Garrett]

I think.

[Elise]

And I think that was like kind of the point of the whole segment. But a lot of people just got really upset that you said that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Elise]

And so I pulled some fun comments from that. Oh, yes. And my responses, because this is about my crisis management, I guess, and hopefully you guys are cool with these because I don't think you really monitor it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't. Look, I can't wait.

[Fireball]

Well, you know, I just remember saying I am cool with this.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The other night I messaged and I was like, should we do mean tweets? And I sent a mean comment about me.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And then no one answered. Well, I was like, cool, there goes my self esteem.

[Elise]

Mean tweets is kind of a downer, but some of these are kind of. They kind of hit on that. Someone just commented, women. And I just commented. And I responded, you're right, you're right.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You know what I mean?

[Elise]

I responded from the Backpacker Radio account and I go, men. So that's about my crisis management.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Every now and then, Elise will send me a message and she'll be like, do you think that this is too salty? And she'll send like the perfect singer. I'm like, Post it, baby.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Elise]

I will say, like, usually if I'm saying something that I feel like is maybe, like, if either of you saw it, would you want your names behind it? I will consult. But yeah. Somebody said when you go missing, you wish you didn't listen to this guy. It was chance.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

When you go what?

[Elise]

You go missing, you'll wish you didn't listen to this guy.

[Jabba]

When you.

[Elise]

When you're being eaten alive by a lion or bear, and I go, where are you backpacking with lions around? And they. And then they clarified they were talking about mountain lions. That one's not as funny, but still felt like it was. It was a worthy response.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Go do the thru. Hike up the zoo. That could happen.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Elise]

If you're in Africa, I guess. Like, I mean, I feel like I probably would want someone to have a gun if I was on a safari.

[Garrett]

Anyway,

[Elise]

this. This one's just kind of funny because obviously this reached, like, a part of the Internet. A lot of our stuff, like, is mostly listeners, but this one, this particular clip went further than that. And see, this is the opinion of people who probably stick to crowded and shorter trails and hike in Boulder. There's mountain lions, wolves, bear, moose, and psychos in the backcountry. You stick to your stats. I'll stay strapped. So, yeah, I just thought that was funny. Given the context of, like, the people that. On the podcast and the experiences that everyone has.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What's the third?

[Elise]

The third one is when we pulled Freya's episode.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yes.

[Elise]

We got a lot of comments, actually, on Lindsey.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Really?

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Because for anyone listening who actually heard Freya's episode, got two hands here. Who actually knows what we're talking about with her episode four or five.

[Jabba]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

30%, maybe.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Elise]

Do you want to give it more context?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay.

[Elise]

So we pulled an episode because it had some things that just, like, didn't align.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It was very sexual.

[Elise]

Yeah. Upon further reflection, we were like, maybe. And so a lot of the comments that we got after that episode was pulled happened to be on the episode that you guys had with a pastor. So Lindsay Monson, pastor training, just happened to be the next episode. And so that was, like, kind of a funny. And so people. I got a lot of dms, Like, a lot of DMS to the backpack radio account. Like, what happened to this episode? Like, I was looking forward to listening to it. Or, like, I saw. I heard 30 minutes of it, and then now it's gone. And they were very. There was a huge, like, split on, like, really far ends of the spectrum one was like, this is so irresponsible to, like, have this content. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And some people were like, why would you ever hear. Yeah, it was like, very.

[Fireball]

I didn't know so many people were

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

so well versed in the law. Cause so many people commented like this. Like, this part where the truck with the pickup truck is illegal. And how could you promote that and this and that. And I'm like, how do you know that? Like, I didn't. I just seemed like kind of not a cool thing to do, you know, I think, obviously. But illegal.

[Fireball]

How do you know that?

[Zach Badger Davis]

What law are you breaking?

[Elise]

Right.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Where are people learning all these small laws?

[Elise]

I. Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Do you know a lot of small laws? Well, I think I would assume that

[Elise]

that could be illegal just because, like, if I.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But what part would be, like, against. I mean, it's like, you're not being.

[Elise]

I could see someone pressing charges about it, I guess, is what I'm getting at. Like, I don't know that I would know for sure that it's illegal. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's. That's kind of.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Anyway, never crossed my mind. That was one where I was reading those and I was like, huh.

[Elise]

And there was also a lot of, like, pro king community that were like, this is a really irresponsible way to go about this. So it was like, not just like, we don't like the explicitness.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It was like, not one of us.

[Elise]

This is not a good representation of this community. And so just to give that its moment. But a lot of the comments were in context of being on Lindsay's clips. And so in addition to the DMs, here's a few of the comments that we got.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I love the mean comments.

[Elise]

Can't help but laugh that this is the first episode after the deleted explicit sex episode.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Time out on that. By the way. People think that we planned that. Like, we try. We're trying to rinse the palates of, like, a dirty stuff.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, they were alone.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is how Backpacker Radio operates. We're gonna talk to somebody who's a serial sex haver and then have a priest on the next episode.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And they're nice that they think we're smart enough to do that. Like, that's a compliment.

[Fireball]

You think that we're that methodical? Thanks.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I think that the podcast is good because we talk to everybody, literally. It did hurt my soul a little bit to pull that episode because, well, release the files. There's reasons why we pulled it beyond

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

what, like some exaggerated truths is the most that we'd be willing to say about that.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah. But the backlash on that episode is not necessarily the entire reason why it doesn't.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, it's not the backlash. It's just like, other things.

[Elise]

And for context, that comment got 56 likes. Okay, this one is kind of falling in the mean tweets here category. So someone said. And I my crisis management for this one specifically, I hid the comment. A lot of times that's what I do.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If they're, like, going and clicking the view. Hidden comments.

[Jabba]

Wow.

[Elise]

What impressively uninteresting content. At least the smooth brain shake that was talking about screwing in the screwing in the trail Angel's truck was fun to laugh at.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is just a smooth brain chick.

[Fireball]

That's so funny.

[Elise]

This is just unflavored oatmeal for your ears. Hikers get enough Bible talk at Trail Magic and don't need more. Do hikers even work at the trek anymore? It's like everyone involved never met a hiker.

[Fireball]

That's a kind of a really good comment. Why? That's funny.

[Elise]

I hate that comment.

[Fireball]

That's the brain person that's such a singer.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Elise]

Should we reach out? I'll send you the name.

[Jabba]

After

[Elise]

what happened to Freya's episode was really looking forward to listening to that. And sometimes, like, I don't even have to say anything. Like, other people will hop in. But this one, like, a lot of people were saying, like, they got bullied into taking it down. People were whining about it. And then really my contribution to most of these comments, this is why I included this one, was mostly being like, listen to the next episode. Because Zach had, like, an intro. So kind of the point of including some of this one was like, crisis management is never that intense because you guys usually kind of. You have, you know, you know what you're doing, you usually handle it. And, like, I'm just kind of pointing them in the direction that they need to look for what's going on.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What would you rate your job satisfaction on a really. On a scale of 1 to 10 right now?

[Fireball]

I don't know. Just after, like, if you have to

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

deal with that shit, like, how's it going?

[Elise]

We'll invite you.

[Garrett]

My favorite part of, like, dealing with

[Elise]

that is usually screenshotting it and sending

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

it to me and us talking shit.

[Elise]

And you're like, this is what I want to say.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Our text threads are really incriminating.

[Elise]

No, they're not.

[Fireball]

They're just like, it's just us making

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

fun of the people making fun of us.

[Elise]

Yeah, exactly. It's like this is what I would say if I wasn't representing your brand. However, since I am.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Elise]

Do you want me to say this?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We post the brand comments on the comments, and then we post the thoughts in our brains.

[Elise]

Yeah. So just know if you comment something mean. We're talking about what I really want to say, but I might be a little nicer. But yeah. I would say 8 out of 10. 9 out of 10. 10 out of 10. I don't know why. I just.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's been pleasure doing business with you.

[Elise]

10 out of 10. I take why I said 8.

[Fireball]

It's okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You were looking at my face while you were raising the numbers, so that makes me think it's because of me. I accept.

[Elise]

I didn't really. Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, we'll go with that. Just say yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Elise, that was wonderful.

[Narrator/Host]

Thank you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Is the audio quiet? I can hardly hear myself. Are you guys good?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Can you hear me?

[Zach Badger Davis]

The other triple crown, I think is just an Elise and I moment, which is.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Wait, are you guys doing it? And I'm doing a triple crown, but you're having to go see. Oh, okay. Well, you can go. I don't know.

[Fireball]

You said I was gonna lease a new moment.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Phasing me out. Whatever.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Or me in the bathroom in those jeans. Flip them around. You can listen.

[Elise]

Should we introduce you?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I have no clothes left. I put everything on a moving truck, and I don't have anything here.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, we gotta hold it. You gotta be a big girl right now.

[Elise]

The people on the plane smile.

[Garrett]

Are gonna act.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I can.

[Jabba]

You do it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I can.

[Zach Badger Davis]

All right. This is the triple crown of our favorite chaunce moments.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, this would be a really bad one for me to go to the bathroom during

[Garrett]

this.

[Elise]

Specifically, road trip.

[Fireball]

Uh.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, it can be.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Doesn't matter.

[Garrett]

Okay.

[Elise]

I definitely.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, but this is good because now you're getting a taste of Mrs. Interpreting the triple crown. It's not just me.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Did I say road trip in the text?

[Elise]

I don't know.

[Garrett]

Okay.

[Elise]

It's possible I misinterpreted it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It does not matter.

[Garrett]

It doesn't matter.

[Elise]

It's still. Now I have road trip memories. And then me and at least had

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

a moment today where we were like, wait, did Zach's emails say two lies in a truth?

[Elise]

That was my fault because they.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But then we asked for clarification and he was like, yeah, it was two lies.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Elise]

But I accidentally texted my day two truths.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, I don't think you did Because I got the email. McCed on it.

[Elise]

Well, you got the email, but then I went and when I was following.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, it wasn't you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Did you also notice the deadline of the email was four days ago?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, good.

[Fireball]

Anyways, I couldn't think of anything good.

[Elise]

Did I get the last truth?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I mean, I'm gonna be here. You're gonna hear it from the horses now.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, you're not speaking it. Did you read the instructions at all?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Why do you need it four days in advance?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Because Elise is prepping.

[Elise]

It's fine.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Anyways, it's fine. It doesn't matter.

[Narrator/Host]

We're having fun.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is Thomas last episode. We're all getting along. This is fun. We're having fun. Are you having fun? We're having fun.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Having mediocre self esteem went down three points.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is the triple crown of chaunce moments.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You can't leave for this one. No, I'm going to start. This is also from the Wisconsin trip. We could honestly just do triple crown moments of the Wisconsin trip.

[Garrett]

Yeah, that would be.

[Zach Badger Davis]

But I wanted to get a little bit of diversity. So we have some non whisker moments. But this one is legitimately one of the funnier moments.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Wait, this is all Wisconsin?

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, this particular one is. Is when we were playing odds and you lost the one where you had to go to that biker bar and buy the underwear. That said, with an ass like this, who needs big tits?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

And you hiked for a mile. A mile.

[Elise]

I feel like it was longer than that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, it was a mile. I had to walk a mile in those underwear. And then we auctioned them off at the Wisconsin live show to a lovely old man who was part of the trail organization. Yeah, I didn't watch him either.

[Zach Badger Davis]

As a bonus, behind the scenes, my favorite media from the trip was Elise took a video of me and Jabo taking separate videos of Sean's hiking wearing the vet.

[Fireball]

It was like, I don't think that ever saw public. Yeah, it was a video. He at least took a video of

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

these two with their cameras.

[Fireball]

Like up against my ass while I'm

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

walking, not even knowing.

[Jabba]

Disgusting.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, you probably still have it.

[Elise]

Only got one thing on their minds

[Zach Badger Davis]

that was number one. The fact that you followed through on that. Because that would have been an easy. Like, I'm gonna back out of this and there's nothing you can say and there's nothing that I would have said. You followed through. And that was a prototypical Johnson.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's why I make the stakes so High for things like an ass tattoo. Like, I can't lose and not do it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

There's been things.

[Jabba]

You backed out of that?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. Upset my dad was when he thought I was gonna shave my head if the bill.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's what I'm saying. You backed out of that?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

He was genuinely mad at me, and I was like, dad, like, what am I supposed to do? Back out on the bet? He was like, yeah, no, you can't. And then what? You don't show your face again?

[Zach Badger Davis]

I've learned that a get out of jail free card is that my parents will be upset about this, but that's fine. What do you mean, that's fine? That's good.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

For what?

[Zach Badger Davis]

I could use that for anything. They're upset that I run a backpack.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You'd never use that excuse.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I have it in my back pocket.

[Jolly]

Never.

[Elise]

At least I feel like.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Hey, Garrett.

[Elise]

Pretty good at following through for, like, entertainment.

[Fireball]

Oh, my God. Maureen.

[Elise]

Thank you, guys.

[Garrett]

This is Maureen. She's amazing.

[Elise]

Zach did take one of mine, but luckily it wasn't my first one, so I have some time to think. But this is a mine were specifically road trip focused. But this one also just in general stands out as a moment when Chauncey and I's friendship, I think expanded, was when we were driving to the Teton Crest Trail and my car broke down in Wyoming. Turns out I just ran out of gas. But at the time, it really seemed like my car broke down. Chaunce can attest it was really hot. We were literally in the freaking basin. Any CDC hikers know there was one

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

point where you were like, well, if we can't get to the Tetons, we could always do the basin.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Fireball]

And then you were like, no. She didn't expect me to say yes,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

but I've never done this.

[Fireball]

I was joking.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I picture it being as a section hike. And so what better time to do the basin than with a friend who's willing? I was like, yeah.

[Elise]

I was like, I actually don't think that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, it's not.

[Fireball]

And I was like, why?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It works perfectly for my agenda of wanting to section hike this, do that part with a friend.

[Elise]

So that's the only way to do the basin. But I was like, I was very much kidding, and I'm not willing to use my vacation time to hide the basin. But anyway, so my car broke down in literally outside of Rollins, Wyoming, and we had to call a tow truck and everything. And I was kind of freaking out because I was like, my car just broke down and I. It Was like a new to me car. Ish. And. And yeah, Chaunce was just really good about. She might have given me something to make me feel.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I gave her some of my propanolol.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Elise]

I was like. I was only gonna say if you were willing to say it, you'll feel

[Fireball]

a lot better about this.

[Elise]

And it helped a lot. And then we went to a Hole in the Wall, which, if you're CDC hikers, if you're ever in Rawlins. Hole in the Wall is a great bar. However, I've come to discover I'm pretty sure they don't clean their tap lines, don't drink their draft beer.

[Fireball]

But did you get sick?

[Elise]

Yeah, both times. Josh was so mad at me on the CDT because I was so hungover the day after going to that bar. Or we thought hungover. I probably was hungover. But I. I had 12 beers.

[Zach Badger Davis]

But the water was dirty. No, but then fucking ice cubes were cloudy.

[Fireball]

People that don't filter water and get

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

norovirus, they're like, no, that we're in the bathroom.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I hear this from Jenna all the time. It's like. It's the sugar in the margaritas. The 12 margaritas that I drank. It was the sugar that makes me smell it.

[Garrett]

Oh, okay.

[Elise]

But. But when I went with Chance, I only had two beers and I still felt sick.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But that's what the bars for. Having those games with the Little Barrel Wyoming.

[Elise]

Yeah, they have Wyoming bars. Yeah. A lot of bars along the cdt, as you get further north, have like these fun dice games. So you should definitely play those. Maybe just get a bottle instead of draft. Love. Humble Wall service is exceptional. I just don't think they've cleaned their. Since 1990. Yep, that's part of the vibes. Yeah, but that whole memory of that whole day. We were supposed to be in the Tetons that night, and Chonz was so cool about it and did not make me feel bad about my car breaking down and helped me through the whole situation.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I worked in sales and I didn't have to call anyone that day. I was like, you can't give me a bad day. Having a good time now.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Triple crown rules. You get the next pick.

[Elise]

Okay. I want to shout out our solo truck in New York after Zach rolled his ankle. I feel like we had a great little girly. Two days, three days on the Northville Placid Trail. We were just like, vibing and trudging through swamps. And by vibing, you mean we got

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

drunk in my dad's car. And then said, girls trip, and left the car.

[Elise]

Forgot about that night.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Nine miles, made a fire and had, like, a witchy seance. Yeah, we had a great time.

[Garrett]

I totally.

[Elise]

I honestly forgot about that night kite.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And now we're like, girls time.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Quick aside. Chaunce got drunk enough that she peed next to her dad's truck without even going. There was a bathroom.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I would do that sober.

[Zach Badger Davis]

15 yards away. She just, like, stepped out of the truck, dropped trous, started peeing, and, like, legitimately formed a large puddle underneath the vehicle where, like, you had to step over it to get in the trunk without stepping in Chauncey's face.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was in a comfortable environment because growing up, when we would drive to my grandma's house, it was four hours. And my dad is a very efficient man. And if you didn't have to pee badly enough to pee on the side of the road or the highway, then you didn't have to pee. And so it was either pee on the side of the highway or you don't have to pee. And that was what I learned as a kid. And so we're at this trailhead. It's time to go. I'm next to my dad's truck. You know, like, the scents are. It's like, you know, I'm a dog, and that's my fire thing.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I could feel the heat coming from what you were releasing. It was a real moment.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What are the fire things that you can connect? The tire hydrant. Thank you.

[Fireball]

I have a dog, and that's my hydrant.

[Jabba]

Yeah.

[Fireball]

He wasn't watching.

[Jabba]

I needed this. When you were hiking.

[Fireball]

Yeah, yeah. He drove.

[Elise]

He was in the car.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Fireball]

So I said, hold on, I have to pee. And then I peed. That's it. Well, be a good girl and make your puddle then. I. Sure.

[Elise]

Yeah. So I peed.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, I. I like to. I don't. I would take an outdoor area over a porta potty at any time.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And that is not.

[Fireball]

That's not a truck.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That is a cleanliness thing. Porta potties are disgusting, and the open air is clean.

[Jolly]

Agreed.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It wasn't a porta potty. It was an outhouse. But that's neither here nor there. It doesn't matter. You made steam next to your dad's truck, and it was fun for all of us.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It was great. It was in the open air.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

My next one is. This is one that is a podcast. Exclusive, probably. This probably can't go on the podcast. I won't name names or brands, but you're gonna laugh at this. Do you remember the year where you did the raffle from someone else's shoulders?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yes.

[Fireball]

Oh, you're gonna tell that story.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Do you remember the following year, that person's wife texted that person saying, whose pussy is rubbing against your head?

[Fireball]

That was in the following year.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That was that year.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Well, we learned it, but we learned the story the following year.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, yes. Yes. We talked to the person the following year. Yes. So totally platonic. I am 5:1. I can't see a lot of people, like, from the ground. And if I'm doing a raffle and you're waiting for the raffle and you're taller than me and you can't see me, like, that doesn't work.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You know, it's also part of the charm of the raffle. It was funny for Chauncey to get on this tall person's shoulders who was already standing on top of a cooler. They were, like, 12ft high. It was fun.

[Fireball]

We had also planned our raffles at the.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

At the same time. So it's like our raffles are happening at the same time. Let's just, like, team up and do it together. But, like, I like not that tall. If I stand in the cooler, people will still be taller. And so it was like, all right, stand on my shoulders. Yeah. What was it she said?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Whose pussy is rubbing against your head?

[Elise]

I don't know this reference.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The photo is, like, available.

[Elise]

Yeah, I could find it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You guys can sleuth and figure out who we're talking about here. We'll leave that one on the podcast. Yeah, but you know what?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's not the first time my wife.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's a fact.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Gotten upset about something minor.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Are there other stories? Do you have a triple crown of Tron stories?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Maureen's cookies.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yes. Maureen, who is here. Hi, Maureen.

[Garrett]

Hi.

[Fireball]

Cookies.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Fireball]

You didn't write Zachary name on it, did you?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I did not write XOXO this time.

[Fireball]

I did not write XOXO this time.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

She just said, these ones are for you.

[Fireball]

I love you. Maureen is the best singer, and every time we do one of these, she makes his cookies, and they're really good.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Maureen is our favorite live podcast attendee of all time because she makes the best cookies. Apparently. She makes cakes. She does the full bakery offering. But I think it was the most recent December podcast where there was a note on the inside of the cookie.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Both sets, mine and Zach's.

[Fireball]

Yeah, both of them, to be clear. Both of them.

[Elise]

Marina saying both of them to be clear. In case you can't hear it.

[Fireball]

Mine has an XOXO Maureen heart I wrote from Zacks.

[Elise]

From Maureen and a smiley face, which

[Zach Badger Davis]

is funny because my wife, who is notoriously not jealous at all, I promise you, she doesn't think I'm getting with anyone. She saw the cookie box. She saw the cookie box. She's like, who's this Maureen bitch?

[Fireball]

I thought it was who the fuck is Maureen?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Something to that effect, simply because it was XOXO Maureen. She saw that we had cookies from XOXO Maureen.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So now it's XOXO Moraine on yours and free from Maureen on my. Which is especially hilarious because my wife is not jealous whatsoever. I've never heard her say a jealous thing in my life. Aside from your cookie box, Maureen, your smiley face. Okay, with my last pick, I have a lot of options here.

[Elise]

I don't think I did my last one. Is it my turn?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Take it anyways. You go. I don't want to take yours.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, no, no, you go. You started.

[Elise]

Did I go twice already?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No.

[Garrett]

Yes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, I did go, right? He has to go again. Then you go again. Because he went. Then you went. Then you went. Then he went. And he goes. Then you go. Sure, yeah, I've been.

[Elise]

I've done trust you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, this one might come up a little bit later, and you guys already know the story, but just. It'll be short from the same Wisconsin live podcast where Chaunce was already blackout drunk and started screaming at people to give her everything in their wallets.

[Fireball]

It's a fundraiser. It's for a good cause.

[Elise]

Yeah, it worked.

[Fireball]

I'm not yelling at you to give

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

me money for myself. I'm yelling at you to give me money for a good cause. And if you give me money because I yelled at you, it's going to a good cause. What else would you do with it? Buy more drinks than the bar?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, great.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, it went to a good cause instead because I yelled at you.

[Elise]

Thank you.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You're welcome. You did something good today.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's a clip that'll live in infamy, and I will hold it here near and dear to my heart for the rest of time.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Maybe you shouldn't fundraise by shaking a fishbowl in people's faces and yelling, give me everything in your wallet.

[Fireball]

Give everything in your wallet.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

However, that being said, it was a very effective fundraiser raiser. There was no cash left in the

[Fireball]

building that wasn't in that dish bowl

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

by the time I was done with them.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We took so much Money. They won't even let us back in the building.

[Fireball]

I mean, I don't know why.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I raised them a lot of money. They didn't do that off. Words alone.

[Jabba]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

All right, Elise, you have the last one here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Elise]

So you did take one of mine about the underwear. That was a pretty standout memory. But I have, like, several now that we're expanding it beyond road trips. And you're. You talking about the people pee when leaving on in New York. Reminded me of one of the first times that Chauncey and I ever went, like, on a hike alone together. And it was early, early on. And I remember we were at, like, St. Mary's Glacier.

[Fireball]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Elise]

There were, like, cars everywhere, and I just peed.

[Fireball]

You just peed.

[Elise]

You peed by.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Elise]

You just, like. I think you drove and you just, like, opened your car door and you're like, I'm gonna go pee.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And I was like, again, I'm comfortable doing that.

[Fireball]

I was raised to do that.

[Elise]

That reminded me of that memory. And I was like, yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was like, this girl is, like,

[Elise]

very comfortable peeing next to college.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Very.

[Elise]

Yeah, I was, like, classically trained in this. I remember thinking, like, I need to,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

like, loosen up a little bit.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Fireball]

When's the last time you pee next

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

to it but let loose?

[Elise]

Oh, I do it all the time, but just usually. Probably, like, less populated places.

[Garrett]

We could.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We could have. Is Garrett here? Did you step out?

[Elise]

That was like, 20, 21. I don't know if they were.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Garrett, come here. You want to tell them the engagement story?

[Jess]

About how I propose?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, about me peeing.

[Jolly]

Tell me.

[Fireball]

She peed. Ladies and gentlemen, my husband.

[Jess]

So if you know Juliana at all, you know this girl. She pees everywhere. So I planned to propose to Juliana. And obviously, in Juliana fashion, none of it could be a surprise. Surprise. She had a dress that she wanted to get proposed in. I had planned to take her to where we had our first date, which is North Italian. Cherry Creek, when I was her boss. HIV violation.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Worse for him than me.

[Jolly]

I was a victim.

[Jess]

Way worse. You were not a victim. You were attracted to power. And so I. In classic. She wanted to take pictures for some of the sponsors on Saturday. And I said, how about we do a hike Sunday? And she knows me. I am horizontal on Sundays. And I'm not a very big hiker. If you guys ever gotten that channel

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

at 5:00pm I was like, okay. Should I wear my nice dress?

[Jess]

Yeah. So I was like, let's go on a hike. She's like, Should I wear my dress? And I just went, yeah,

[Fireball]

nice.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So she called my friend and scheduled to get my hair done that morning.

[Jess]

She got her hairs done. She got her nails done in the morning. Meanwhile, I'm just steaming the dress, being like, none of this is gonna be a surprise. She didn't know about where we were going. So we went to the restaurant, and I told the waitress, when Juliana was in the bathroom peeing again,

[Garrett]

that I

[Jess]

was proposing, and she left. Well, then she proceeded to get us really drunk.

[Fireball]

I did.

[Jess]

No, the waitress. I was sobered up to drive because I did drive to Mount Falcon in Morrison. But we're pulling up to where, like, I plan out this whole spot. The photographer was going to jump out of the bushes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We're on, like, the switchbacks going up to Mount Falcon.

[Jess]

I'm pumping myself up in my head. I'm like, what am I going to say before this? Like, don't black out. And, like, in your mind in terms of, like, get the right words out. And Juliano's like, yeah, pull over,

[Fireball]

like,

[Jess]

two minutes from, like, us driving up Mount Falcon to get to the. The top where the photographer is patiently waiting. And I'm like, oh, let's just wait till we get up there, because there's a bathroom everywhere.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I might be bloated for my engagement photos. I'm getting every last dropout before, just

[Jess]

so I have a picture. I have a picture that will remain on my phone of us, her in her pretty dress with her hair done, just peeing outside the side of my car. And I was like, this is the

[Zach Badger Davis]

woman I'm about to marry.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So he knew who he married.

[Jess]

There's Garrett Eats and there's Julia Pease.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So all I'm saying is, I will never be ashamed.

[Zach Badger Davis]

One is on TikTok. The other is on Onlyfans. Shout out to Garrett.

[Jolly]

By the way, we love Garrett.

[Fireball]

A thankless job.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I think that concludes the triple crown.

[Elise]

Yeah. One quick honorable mention was the Chance waking up on the Wisconsin road trip. I think I was downstairs really having coffee, and I just hear Chance yell from the second floor of this Airbnb and be. I look like a crime scene. And then she just completely rallied. She was, like, just a freaking pleasure to be with the whole next day. I think we puked together in a bathroom that day. Yeah, it was. It was a great time. And I just want to say it was hard. I was actually glad when I thought this was road trip consolidated because there's so many good memories. And I'm gonna try not to get too gushy, but the late night texts and your endless creativity.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Wait, Savvy. Sounds like you're saying goodbye right now.

[Garrett]

I'm not.

[Elise]

I'm just saying, like, I wanna. I want the people to hear how much I appreciate you is what I'm getting at. Because I can tell you in private, but I want people to know. Like Chauncey's. You see a lot of it on the podcast, but, like, truly, there's, like, you're such a unique thinker and, like, such an incredible person and. And I've really enjoyed being able to work with you these past few years.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's really nice.

[Garrett]

Thanks.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Another hand for Elise, everyone. Elise.

[Garrett]

The best.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, Elise, we're trading mics with you right now. Grab that one right there. The wireless. We're welcoming Jessica Stone on stage here. We're gonna descend into madness here. It's gonna be a stair step into madness and we'll get there segment by segment. But this first one is round of applause for Jess. We're playing a game. Elise is our host. You can stand here or you can sit down there. It doesn't matter. Wherever you're comfortable.

[Elise]

Can we hear me?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Apparently I fucked this up. We're playing the game called two lies and the truth. Apparently, it's two truths and a lie. Back in my day, before you were ultra light.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is why you're not the director of fun. This is why you're at the eof.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's totally ruined now that we were being lies in one truth.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's like, oh, what a silly spin. I read it the way you read it, where you. You get a word where the letters are scrambled, but the first and last letter are the same, and you just read the word and don't notice.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You're referring to dyslexia.

[Fireball]

Yeah. You guys don't get that.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Well, if you were dyslexic on time like we had told you, it would

[Jolly]

have been less of an issue.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Here we are.

[Jabba]

It's not.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Anyway. Yeah. Okay, good. That's a thought. Sorry, that just took over my head.

[Elise]

I think I did the same thing that Sean said because I. But then I read. I read both of yours and then I was texting Chance like, hey, I need your. Your two truths and a lie. And then. So she sent me two shoes and a lie. And then I was like, putting them all together, and I was like, wait, wait, wait, sorry. Two lies and a truth.

[Jabba]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And I went back to the email because I was like, are you sure? And then I read it And I was like.

[Fireball]

I also texted Zach separately.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And I was like, did you mean to say that

[Zach Badger Davis]

it turns out it apparently matters when you're.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, we have two lies and a

[Elise]

truth from each of you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, we're doing a spin. We're doing a fun spin.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You guys.

[Narrator/Host]

This is fun. We're having a good time.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did Gary leapers.

[Fireball]

He's still here. Is he over there?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Raise your hand.

[Garrett]

He's probably peeing.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, I'm gonna do that one last time.

[Fireball]

There's one that involves him that he's

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

not here for it.

[Jolly]

I'm not sure.

[Elise]

Okay, so actually, I'm gonna be reading them and yes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, don't read the one about Garrett until he's here.

[Elise]

I can. We can go in a different way.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, good.

[Elise]

So what's gonna be happening is I'm gonna be reading two lies and a truth from each of them from Zach, Jess and Chaunce. And they're going to be guessing between themselves, which is the truth. And then the audience is also going to guess. For anyone who guesses wrong, they have to drink. So if Chaunce guesses wrong about Zach's truth, she has to drink. If she guesses right, Zach has to drink. Yeah. So we'll just dive right in. We'll wait for chances. I had her first in the lineup, but we'll wait for Garrett to come back. So we'll start with Zach. So first, during a high school football game, after drinking too much caffeine on the bus, he sharded his football pants. During warmups, he tried to play it off like nothing happened. But during up downs, one of the coaches smelled him and yelled at him to run into the locker room and change before the game started. That is the first story.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Garrett's back.

[Elise]

FYI, Perfect Story 2. He once got so drunk before a kid's birthday party he hosted at his girlfriend's parents house that she yelled at him to go home. He left the party, but instead of actually going home, he passed out in the bushes in front of her house. The last story. Zach once drove up to a toll booth, threw his coins into the changed receptacle, missed, and got so anxious about the situation that instead of grabbing his credit card or more cash, he drove through the tollbooth arm. So now, last chance. First, which one do you think is the truth? The sharding the drunk at the kid's birthday party.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The second one.

[Zach Badger Davis]

The second one I want to introduce to the segment. You're allowed to ask questions to investigate deeper.

[Elise]

You can investigate.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's Fine.

[Elise]

I mean, I have a lot of questions. Do I reveal who needs to drink? So actually, we'll do Chaunce's guest and then we'll do Jess's guest, and then I'll say who needs to drink or not.

[Garrett]

Can we.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Can we do, like, a period of

[Elise]

questions first before making a couple more minutes? For sure.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Of course.

[Elise]

Yeah. Ask some questions. So can you start with the first one? What was the first one? The first one was sharding his pants before the football game, and his coach asked him to change.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

What position did you play? I was an offensive guard, Offensive guard and also a backup linebacker.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But you were special team.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Well, special teams is. Everyone's on special teams. Chance, if you knew football, you would understand.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm just trying to say something different.

[Jolly]

Yeah, it's good.

[Elise]

What was your coach's name?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Mr. Wicker.

[Elise]

And he could smell you during up downs.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So up downs is what you call it in football in, like, CrossFit terms. It's called burpees. It's literally like you slam on the floor.

[Garrett]

You were shat at this point?

[Elise]

Point, yeah.

[Garrett]

Burpee.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It wasn't visible on the outside because you got the girdle that goes over it. But I was within smelling distance.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And you knew you were wet?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[Elise]

Even if that's not right, I'm not happy. I have that image in my head. Okay, then what was the second one? The second one was that he got so drunk before the kid's birthday party, his girlfriend asked him to go home and then instead he passed out in the bushes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This was in high school. Wait, what was the third one? I don't think I wanted that one.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So it's not stipulated in the question itself or in the reading.

[Elise]

It was a high school girlfriend, but

[Zach Badger Davis]

this was post college. This was actually after a World cup game, so I'm gonna guess it was 2010.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Elise, what was the third one?

[Elise]

The third one was that he drove through the tollbooth arm.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I believe that. Well, I don't think he would get anxious about it. You just get mad. But I'm gonna pick the third one.

[Elise]

Okay. I feel like you being anxious about not accepting your coins is going to be less anxiety inducing than you driving through the arm of the toll.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't think the word he would use to describe it is anxious. I think it would be mad.

[Elise]

Were you pissed?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Anxious is the right word. You miss and then there's just a moment of panic and you just do the thing that comes naturally to you. And sometimes that's at the gas.

[Elise]

Sometimes it's defacing public property, like story

[Zach Badger Davis]

one and story three. Sometimes you just hit the gas.

[Elise]

I think I'm gonna say story two is the truth. Okay, so Jess is going with passing out in the bushes. Chaunce is going with the tollbooth arm. Audience, do you have. Okay, this is the one that we think is true. I can hear a lot of number one. I do see some twos and a three. Okay, so if you held up three, if you think three is the truth, Zach needs to drink. So that's. I think people from the audience in Sean. So that's three drinks. Jess, unfortunately, bigger sip than that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Come on.

[Fireball]

That is the smallest I've ever seen.

[Elise]

He does have to drink.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'm also going to give you the story.

[Elise]

Two, three.

[Fireball]

We don't want the story.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We want you to drink.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'm going to drink.

[Elise]

And then Jess has also. Can you give me a pilsner?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Pilsner?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, that'd be great.

[Fireball]

Thanks.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

At least Ryan after he tells his story. Cuz Garrett has to go say goodbye to one of his friends that came to see him.

[Elise]

Wait, we need to wait for yours.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, no, no, do it, do it after Zach. Yeah, Zach tells the story.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Someone get Jess a beer. That's very important so Jess can drink because she. We are on the way to a Cubs game. And this was before I had to fabricate the story a little bit to make it feel more believable. Because at the time that I drove through the tollbooth arm, there were no credit cards. That's not how people paid for toll booths. They just threw in 40 cents on the O'. Hare. On the i80, I missed with the nickel. I had a center console full of change. I could have very easily remedied the situation. I was early into driving. I had just gotten past my driver's permit. I was driving my friends in the backseat stone cold sober. I legitimately just panicked and fucking hit the gas, drove through the toll booth arm, it snapped off and the car next to me was so amused by it that they sped up, laid on their horn, reached out the window and gave me the thumbs up. Fast forward to about three weeks later. There's a yellow strip of paint across my front front car. My dad goes, did you drive through a tollbooth arm? He sniffed out the story from million miles away.

[Jabba]

Dad, no.

[Jolly]

Oh.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So I hope my sons are listening to this. I'm going to find you.

[Fireball]

Yeah, but you're not going to be mad.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You're going to be like lol.

[Zach Badger Davis]

He did not get mad at me at all. But yeah, I drove through a toll booth arm. There was never any repercussion to this. I never. There was no camera that, like, penalized me. I just snapped the arm off and that was the end of the story.

[Fireball]

I don't know if anyone listened to

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

the episode where I don't remember the context, but I was trying to guess a time that you might have gotten arrested and I was saying what I thought the scenario might be. And you had to text Elise to make sure she didn't tell me the answer. Because I was so accurate. Because I was like, I feel like you were trying to get to somewhere and you were blocked from getting to that place and that really upset you and so you forced your way past it anyway. And then you got in trouble and you were like, that's actually exactly correct. This is the same story, but different. You were trying to get somewhere. You're blocked from doing it. You got frustrated and so you forced your way past.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It wasn't frustration. It was legitimately just sheer panic. It was like, I fucked up. I don't know what to do. Here's the thing I can do. And I just drove through the dollar.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's just like a common theme in your life.

[Elise]

How old were you when this happened?

[Zach Badger Davis]

16. Okay, that was 16. 16 in a week. 16 in a week.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was literally like, that's something I

[Elise]

would do in high school. But not now.

[Fireball]

We went to trail date.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Not this year. We skipped trail days this year. But last year we got pulled over because he turned left on a left that he wasn't supposed to.

[Zach Badger Davis]

He's like, don't ever turn left on a left. By the way, according to Chan's. Do you ever.

[Fireball]

He turned left.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, that's not what I meant. He turned left and he wasn't supposed to turn left.

[Fireball]

And he's like it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And then we all of a sudden see flashing lights and I'm like, so

[Zach Badger Davis]

there was a no U turn and I U turn. That was what happened.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. We didn't get a ticket, did we?

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, we sweet talked our way out of it.

[Garrett]

I wish I would have asked how

[Elise]

old you were because I was picturing

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

you like last year.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, no, that's fair. There's no. You don't throw change anymore. That's not even. They don't ask for your coins because of me. I snap off your toes.

[Fireball]

This asshole.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Exactly. I broke. I literally broke it and figured it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

All right, I changed my mind. Do Jeff's next Because he went to say goodbye.

[Elise]

Do Jeff's next. Yeah, you got it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Elise]

Sorry, I changed my passcode on my phone this morning.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Why?

[Elise]

I could tell you, but it's an honest story. It's boring. My work stuff is on my phone and they make me do it every, like, six weeks.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's not fun.

[Elise]

Yeah. Okay, so Eric Weiss, better known by his stage name Harry Houdini, is Jess great, great, great great grandfather. And no, she cannot do magic. That's story number one for Jess.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I better fucking know that to be true about you if you've been in my office for that long.

[Elise]

Maybe not.

[Jabba]

Stone face.

[Elise]

She got her stone face.

[Fireball]

Yeah, got her.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If you're not watching on YouTube, landed the plane.

[Elise]

She got her first real internship by writing a cover letter addressed to the bassist of Fall Out Boy's dick.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Fallout Boy won't be this.

[Elise]

Dear Pete Wentz's dick comma. I didn't realize he was the bassist.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What was the next line?

[Elise]

I don't remember. Years ago, it was probably something like, I'm really good at my job. You should hire me.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Why were you telling us penis?

[Fireball]

It was related to the fact that

[Elise]

me and my friends would laugh about

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Pete Wentz's dick pics when they were

[Elise]

out on the Internet. It brought us so much joy. The job was for Alternative Press magazine, and they were a music magazine based in Cleveland, Ohio.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Follow up question. What was funny about his penis?

[Elise]

It was very round and full.

[Fireball]

It was a nice penis.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, it was on the Internet.

[Elise]

You can Google it right now.

[Fireball]

Bargained for yet? Raise your hand if you're in the

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

audience and you've seen really good Pete Wentz's penis.

[Fireball]

If you're in the audience and you've

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

seen Pete Wentz's penis, raise your hand, the bartender.

[Fireball]

Yes, yes, the bartender has raised their

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

hands off tips tonight, people.

[Elise]

Oh, wait, that just reminded me. Do y' all remember when I saw dick at the Brooklyn meetup?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Do you remember? What?

[Elise]

Do you remember when I saw a penis at the Brooklyn meetup?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Do I remember?

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is an elite story.

[Elise]

When I saw a penis at the Brooklyn Hiker Meetup.

[Fireball]

Yes. We had a meetup in Brooklyn. We had a meetup in Brooklyn.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It was before we did Nursfield Passage Trail. And Elise comes up to me, like, petrified for a moment. She's like, I just saw a penis. Like, what? We're, like, in a, like, a very safe place meet up area and, like, inside a bar and. Bro, what do you mean she? Like that guy over there just pulled out his penis and looked at you.

[Fireball]

I'm like, no way. No.

[Elise]

I was sitting at a table talking with, like, four hikers, and I thought, for me, everything got really awkward because I thought we were all seeing the same thing.

[Fireball]

No one saw but her.

[Elise]

Yeah, no one saw me. And I thought we were playing it cool until it, like, went away. And then when he went away, I was like, oh, my God. And they were like, what are you talking about? He was, like, standing in a corner changing in the bar, but, like, very obviously purposely leaving.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, it happened.

[Elise]

It was wild. I gasped at myself about it after, too. I was like, there's no way that just happened.

[Jess]

No.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I told the Trex developer at the time, Billy, about that. If you listen to this. Hi, Billy. He's like, that's a very Brooklyn thing that just happened.

[Elise]

Yeah. Like.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Elise]

Anyway, sorry to sidetrack us. Okay, so a letter addressed to Pete Wentz's dick. And then the third story is that she poured sugar in her ex's gas tank in college because he was cheating on her with her roommate.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Fuck. Yeah.

[Elise]

Then she transferred to a new school.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Watch out, Andy. Holy shit.

[Fireball]

Wasn't me.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That reminds me of an honorable mention for mine.

[Elise]

Yeah, I didn't have. Should we get to it?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was. I just. I didn't get. I didn't like someone once, and I thought it was warranted. It wasn't just I didn't like them, it was warranted. And the person had a lot of plants, and I poured salt in all of them. Oh, they still lived. It didn't do anything. I don't know enough about plants to know what kills them, so I thought salt might help. You had a really planty phase.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'm surprised John's just putting fertilizer to the plants.

[Fireball]

Being like, fuck you. This was years ice cream. Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It was more chima salt in that. I thought it was like, snails. I was like, shrivel up and die. And then they just, like, kept living. I was like.

[Elise]

Gave them some nutrients.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Question for the last one. Did you move schools because of the gasoline act or because you were so heartbroken?

[Elise]

I moved schools because my friends were

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

like, did you do that?

[Elise]

And I was like, no. Why would I do that?

[Zach Badger Davis]

So they were hot on your trail, and you're like, I have to fucking get away from this place.

[Garrett]

Yeah. I was like, no.

[Elise]

That's like something a psychopath would. I would never do that.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's for sure.

[Jolly]

The lie.

[Elise]

Anyway, I definitely transferred to Ohio State.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You have any further questions?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No. I know my Answer. But you have to say yours first.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I want to believe the Houdini one. That would be so cool. I'm gonna go with Houdini just cuz I want it so bad in my soul.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I think you might have gotten drunk at the Austin podcast and told me about Houdini. Oh, yeah, I think so. But I could be wrong because it may not be true. But if you are, here's the problem. If you don't say that this was yours, then I actually know someone else who told me this story, and I don't remember who it is, but someone I know told me a story about them being related to Houdini. So if you're about to tell me.

[Fireball]

So you wasn't number one, obviously, because

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

someone I know told me a story about them being related to Houdini.

[Elise]

Okay, so you're forgetting the second part of the story, which was. I thought I was related to Harry Houdini.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Dd but my family up the ancestry dot com.

[Fireball]

Semantics.

[Elise]

So I'm not.

[Fireball]

Wait, this has been the longest joke Jess has ever.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Because they're selling your information.

[Elise]

I think. I think that means that Zach needs to drink.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I need to drink, you guys.

[Elise]

Three. Yeah. Ch Two.

[Garrett]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Why is chance an afterthought there?

[Elise]

The loudest audience members are saying 3. I see a 2.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I really do need to pee after this, though.

[Fireball]

Real quick. I'll go fast.

[Elise]

So if you're holding up a two. So I see one. Two. Okay, Jess, two. Three drinks for Jess. And then if you're holding up a three or a one drink. So Jess did write a letter to AP magazine address.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was like, that's really clever.

[Fireball]

Yeah, I mean, well, to be fair,

[Elise]

I was elevated when I wrote it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And I was like, I'm never getting this internship.

[Elise]

Wouldn't it be funny if I dedicated it to Pete Wentz's dick?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And when I got the email back being like, that was hilarious.

[Fireball]

You want to work for us?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was like, yeah, why not? I've got nothing to lose at this point.

[Fireball]

Exactly. I like that.

[Elise]

That's very AP of them. I used to like. I literally probably have AP magazines in my high school bedroom early.

[Fireball]

People know how badly.

[Elise]

I'll see if I can dig out the COVID letter, because honestly, it was pretty fucking fun.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You can d up that cupboard.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Did Andy know that story? Okay. All right. Are we doing a potty break? Is that what's happening? Ch just thinks she can weasel out.

[Jabba]

All right.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Hey, you guys, we're going to take a potty break right now.

[Elise]

Ch's is taking a potty break before we go into her 2. Actually, I could read them because she doesn't need to be here.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, I also have to go to the bathroom. Yeah, everyone go to the bar, get a drink, or go to the bathroom.

[Elise]

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[Zach Badger Davis]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, if you could take your seats again, we're going to start the podcast. I'm going to do one quick story before we get back to the podcast is if you guys are regular listeners of backpacker radio, you've heard Stitches on the podcast before. Jessica Google.

[Fireball]

Is she here?

[Zach Badger Davis]

She just left.

[Fireball]

Shut up. And I need to say hi.

[Zach Badger Davis]

She literally just left. I'm bringing this up because she literally just left. A silent meditation. Come up to this podcast.

[Fireball]

Do you think she's outside?

[Zach Badger Davis]

She was doing a. I think it was a five day silent retreat.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, my God.

[Zach Badger Davis]

And then broke that silence with us talking about like, shit, piss, tequila, malort, penis. Any other words you guys want to say?

[Fireball]

Stitches.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If you're listening to this on the actual podcast Monday episode. I'm so sorry I missed you. That's devastating. I just asked Jess if you were outside still. Probably because I would have ran out.

[Fireball]

I'm sad.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I would love to say hi also. Okay, let's just sit back.

[Fireball]

Just a quick circle back.

[Narrator/Host]

We'll get to that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

A quick circle back to the story I previously told about the last live podcast we did where we looked at our bill at the end and we're like, what the fuck is this number? And then we broke it down where we're like, who ordered 18 shots of tequila? And you pointed. Yeah, exactly. You pointed to him. This makes me think you might have been lying.

[Fireball]

This seems like a pattern and a reference.

[Garrett]

There are.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I have it on good authority that this was not my idea, but it's still a very good idea.

[Elise]

There are lots of shots of tequila on the table for those. I count 12. 12.

[Zach Badger Davis]

12 tequila shots on the next segment is the most. Wait, we didn't finish the last penalizing. And Johnny took it very seriously and he asked me if he should order 12 shots of tequila. And like, I'm not going to say no to that.

[Fireball]

You're expensing it though.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Come on, this is a work trip.

[Jolly]

This is a work trip.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, no, this is. That's a Trek expense.

[Elise]

Truck expense.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I preordered hiding shirt. I pre ordered. They look really good.

[Elise]

I complimented Java's shirt when he walked in today. He was like, thanks, it's a Jolly gear. And I was like, I should have

[Jabba]

clocked that he wore it on the flight here. And I said, give me that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

My friend Heidi, AKA Sketching Summits, did a collab with Jolly and it's her

[Elise]

art on their shirt.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I pre ordered the day it opened. If anyone hasn't done that yet, they're amazing.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Jolly. A little bit of a preview in the next episode of Backpacker Radio. I'm in the middle of a sun hoodie review series and it's the Jolly Gear sun hoodie. And I acknowledge the fact that I'm heavily biased. I can't give an objective review. I said flat out, if this was a terrible sun hoodie, you would never know about it. But I genuinely love the sun hoodie.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, I texted Jolly and I said, hey, I'm gonna give you the inside scoop here. First, make this product for me. It's called a sun poncho. And I want you to make me a sun poncho. AKA the same exact material, the same exact prints. But I don't like the constraint of the arms. I want a poncho. I want to fly in the wind. Yeah, an eagle. You gotta want to go.

[Jabba]

You're a bird.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So California. Ever since Jolly Poncho come out, just not. This idea was mine. He'll say he came up with it two years ago.

[Elise]

He lies.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What for a tequila shot?

[Zach Badger Davis]

That would be Johnson.

[Jolly]

Cheers.

[Fireball]

Here's the problem with not giving me show notes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I am untamable because I don't know what this is for, I might have

[Fireball]

just ruined the game. Here, you take this. Did she just ruin me?

[Garrett]

I love you.

[Jolly]

Love you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

By taking one of those shots, did he ruin it? It's up to judge. Just Jodge. Jolly

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

good.

[Elise]

Okay, should we do tranches? Chances.

[Garrett]

Oh, yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

My.

[Fireball]

What chances.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We're now doing.

[Elise]

Yeah, we're now doing two lies and truth for chance. Okay, story number one.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, hold on, because Gary needs to sit there. Because he needs to. He needs to hear part of this. And you guys will know when it comes, but. Yeah.

[Elise]

Okay, story one.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Don't say it like that. I know he's sitting there. I'm explaining to the audience. I'm including them on my jokes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's funny. It's a funny joke.

[Elise]

Chaunce set Harper on fire as a puppy. Harper is just a psychopath. And barreled between Chaunce and a candle as she had the lighter out to light it. And Harper's fur just went up in flames and Chaunce had to toggle her to put it out. So story number one. Chance at the end. Harper on fire. Question two. One time, during one of Garrett's work trips, Chaunce was playing with Harper and they accidentally knocked over one of his larger Lego sets. And Chaunce panicked and spent the night trying to get the salvageable chunks back together. But since she didn't have the book, she may have also super glued small pieces in the gaps so that it wasn't as noticeable. And to this day, Garrett still hasn't noticed. Except he's here now, and I'm going to have some questions to answer on the way home. Story story number three.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Can I guess? Too early to guess.

[Elise]

One time she was in a pinch on the PCT and needed to poop asap, and she hadn't seen anyone all day, but there was a steep drop off on one side and a wall of cliff on the other for like two miles. And she couldn't hold it anymore. So she had to poop on the trail. And right before she was done, someone came from the direction and saw her. And for the first. For the past nine years, she's been terrified that they might recognize her on here and write in to tell her she's an asshole.

[Jabba]

Could have used one of these poop chandeliers.

[Fireball]

Poop chandelier?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I meant plug.

[Elise]

I actually thought about that when I was sitting there.

[Fireball]

If your poop says cheap, you should see a doctor.

[Jabba]

BBC.

[Elise]

Okay, so,

[Zach Badger Davis]

by the way, housewarming gift ideas.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You gonna get me a butt plug in the housewar again?

[Zach Badger Davis]

James can we unscrew one of these.

[Fireball]

Only ones.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Lie, lie, truth. Here's how you know I did really good at this. Is my husband just asked, are two of these a lie or one?

[Fireball]

Yeah, these are good.

[Elise]

Only one is true.

[Fireball]

Only one is true. Only one is true.

[Elise]

Just like the rest. Two lies in a truth. We're flipping. We're going against the norm.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I feel like for that last story, it's just a twist on the trail or something. I feel like I've heard that story from you before, and you wouldn't dare recycle a story that you've used on the podcast for the famous game of Two Lies and a Truth.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But I will say I don't remember it. I black out every episode.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You do black out all the time.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

How do I know if I told the stories or not?

[Zach Badger Davis]

You're just constantly making new memories. Personally, based on the way that you were laughing and making eyes at your husband, Two feels like the obvious answer to me, but I'm not gonna go there yet. No, I am. I'm guessing two.

[Garrett]

Yeah.

[Elise]

I'm guessing two. No questions.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I've got three text messages from my husband.

[Elise]

There's no question.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, you said three text messages.

[Jabba]

I don't need.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Elise]

Does the audience have any questions? The lie detector in me, I heard question. Does somebody have a question?

[Jolly]

What LEGO set?

[Elise]

He. Someone asked what LEGO set was it?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The X Wing, which was one that he told me was really fragile and that I couldn't lift on my own when I went to pack it myself. So he had to lift it and put it on the bubble wrap for me. And it didn't come apart when you lifted it and put it on the bubble wrap, did it?

[Elise]

Any other audience questions before we make our final?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If you're listening, Garrett does not look stressed at all. He's having a lovely time.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Garrett is purple right now.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's planned for moving. Was he was gonna put the Millennium, the big Millennium Falcon in the back seat of his car.

[Fireball]

Raw, not cracked.

[Jabba]

It is smushed between all these picture frames.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Now it is covered in 18 layers of. It's covered in 15 $50 worth of bubble wrap. I killed more things than I'm willing this audience.

[Fireball]

If they knew how much plastic I

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

wasted to wrap your Legos, would be a bottle.

[Elise]

As long as it's not in the Mountain Dew bottle.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, just which one do you think it is?

[Elise]

If you get that reference, it's obviously number two.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's definitely two.

[Garrett]

Yeah. For sure.

[Elise]

Two. Yeah.

[Jolly]

Number two.

[Elise]

So those two think true. Number two is the truth. Garrett thinks number one. I have several audience. Ones and twos, ones and twos, twos and ones. And the big reveal is if you put up a number one, Chauncey's a drink. So how many was that? There was at least two drinks did that. Jess and Zach both need a drink.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, you would not have known Garrett.

[Elise]

Garrett would have known.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Devil's in the details, baby.

[Elise]

Ch did not break fire.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And I feel really bad about it. It wasn't my fault.

[Fireball]

She was a puppy and she was

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

a psycho and I was lighting a

[Fireball]

candle and she went barreling through and

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

all of a sudden her fur went.

[Fireball]

And I went, ah. And then I went.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I leaped on her and then it went out. It was.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Wait, was Garrett there for the.

[Jabba]

The flame?

[Garrett]

No.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is 444 again. Yeah. Shout out to my ex got engaged six months after we broke up.

[Jabba]

We don't like him. We like me.

[Fireball]

We like him.

[Elise]

All right, that concludes our two lies and the truth.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did they drink a lot? They should drink a lot.

[Elise]

I told them to drink. I didn't monitor.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I drink. I drink.

[Garrett]

You.

[Fireball]

You were so confident.

[Jolly]

Nope.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Those are needed for the next round. Trust me. Trust me. Trust McDonald's. You need those for the next round.

[Garrett]

I.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You know that I will die if I have more than probably two.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Then don't up the next round, cuz

[Narrator/Host]

it's in your control.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Great, Jess, you did a wonderful job. Thank you so much. Shout out for Jess, everyone.

[Fireball]

A lovely lady. Also, if you have. Did you ever get close to her tonight?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Her eyeshadow is really good. I told her that before, but it really makes her eyes pop.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It was done really well if the track has leveled up at all in the last year. Plus, this is. Jess is doing. Jess is amazing. Shout out for Jess. Thank you very much.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Jabba]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This last segment is the reason why there's a bathtub of tequila next to Chaunce right now. And that is for the segment we're calling Judge Jolly.

[Jabba]

We need Jolly to the stage.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We need Jabba to the stage. Jolly. Where did the fuck did Jabba go? God damn it.

[Fireball]

He's a judge.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, he's a contestant.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, okay.

[Fireball]

I was gonna say that's highly biased.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Jolly. This one.

[Garrett]

You.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You hold that java here.

[Jolly]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Sir Jolly.

[Jolly]

Yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

What are some of the new flavors of the Jolly Gear Experience coming in the pipeline in 2026?

[Jolly]

Yes. We have some trail conservancy collab coming, so that's really exciting.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. What's that one, guys?

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's a new one that you're wearing?

[Jolly]

Yeah, that's that one.

[Fireball]

Is that the Avalanche trucking service?

[Jolly]

Yeah, yeah, it's legit. Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If you guys don't follow her etchingsummits on Instagram. Amazing artist. She does a ton of murals. She's done like seven murals in Damascus, so if you hike through there, she's done a bunch. And she's just an amazing artist. And she got a collab with Jolly where she put her heart on his shirts. And it is beautiful. And so I pre ordered it the day it came out, and I can't wait.

[Jolly]

It's lovely.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's really good.

[Jolly]

It's lovely.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This one.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's not an ad if I'm just talking about my friend.

[Jolly]

Right?

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's good.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We all love Heidi. Heidi's the best.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

They should buy everything for the.

[Garrett]

Buy everything.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Heidi, buy everything. Jolly, get Jabba's pack.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What is Jabba sell?

[Jabba]

What?

[Fireball]

What's his girlfriend? He sells his girlfriend jewelry.

[Jolly]

Jewelry. Yeah. Buy my.

[Jabba]

Buy my girlfriend's jewelry.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Buy her wares.

[Jabba]

Katherine Beck dot com.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay. Right.

[Jolly]

The plug for real. Yeah.

[Fireball]

Guys, you gotta hold the hockey man.

[Jabba]

Hey, Chauncey, old bag. How you been?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You make me nervous.

[Fireball]

Your eyebrows also moving down.

[Jabba]

Real good eyebrows. Yeah, that's. I.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, it's better now. It's better now. It's just not.

[Jolly]

This is a good start. This is a great start.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Literally already arguing.

[Fireball]

My only eyebrow looked ominous.

[Jabba]

That's not an argument everywhere.

[Zach Badger Davis]

My only involvement with this segment is to introduce it. Oh, Jolly is spearheading this entire thing.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Is this another ambush?

[Jabba]

Yeah, probably kind of. Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

The entire point of this segment is to pin Jabba and Jaunce against one another.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I thought we did the whole episode about this.

[Zach Badger Davis]

An impartial judge to serve as an impartial judge. I don't know how this is going to work.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Were we unconfident on the results of the arm wrestle? We need to do it again.

[Jabba]

Oh, very confident.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is a psychological wrestling match, if you will.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, thank you. And I'll take my brief.

[Jolly]

We're handing out the whiteboards. The whiteboards are coming back in.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This one's a little bit tricky. There's a lot of ground rules with this one.

[Jolly]

There are.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I love that Jolly took it so seriously that he read through everything. He pre ordered the shots, which are instrumental to how Judge Jolly will go. Jolly, take it from here. Okay.

[Jolly]

Already arguing. I love it. Love to see it. That's what we're here for. So welcome to Judge Jolly. Are Y' all paying attention there or.

[Fireball]

Actually, there's a lot it's important that

[Jabba]

you guys I've ever seen in my life.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I got it for my husband for our honeymoon.

[Fireball]

Lovely.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Let me borrow.

[Jolly]

Okay, so I am the judge. Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Jolly]

What I say goes. So points are gonna come only for me each round. One point, except for round six. So there are six rounds. Two points will be given in after I vote. The crowd will then vote with a cheer. Loudest cheer also gets a point. If you see where this is going, each point is a drink. The drink is tequila shots.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is a biased crowd.

[Fireball]

You can sign up for alcohol, poison.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Well, then don't lose.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Jolly]

Based on opinions and clout, maybe 12 is too many.

[Fireball]

So now we have 11. Actually, it looks like we have 10.

[Jolly]

I also took one when I came up to the States. Lower the volume.

[Fireball]

No, that was very kind because I

[Jolly]

felt a little bad once they started pouring them. I realized it was a lot.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Jolly]

I think I will hand out the tequila shots from the Jolly vote. And the crown vote will be a sip of beer. How does that sound?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Great. Can you give us a Galli first so they know why I love you a little?

[Jolly]

Golly, Jolly. Okay, so the crowd was gonna vote also. So two votes per round. The loser of each takes a drink, and then the highest point total after six rounds is declared the better person.

[Fireball]

So that's what. We're on top of the line right now. Why are we holding these?

[Jolly]

Well, because I am going to ask a question and you are going to write it on the board.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If this ends with Jabba being a better person than me, I'm just gonna take myself to Cherry Creek and tie myself to a rock.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, it's a creek.

[Jabba]

Cherry Creek is not deep.

[Fireball]

Okay, well, rocks are heavy.

[Jolly]

She's small. Okay.

[Fireball]

Depends on where I tie myself.

[Jabba]

Drowned in three inches of water.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's been done.

[Jabba]

You need five.

[Jolly]

Okay. If both pick the same answer, each contestant gets 30 seconds to make their case. For before I rule, no long winded explanations. Fast, sharp, convincing or nothing. Here we go, Round one.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So, before we get to it, Jolly was supposed to be given a sheet of paper where he could actually keep score. I did not provide that for him. So, Jess, you're in charge of keeping score.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You can write on Maureen's candy box.

[Jolly]

No, you may not.

[Fireball]

No, you can. It's mine.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Fireball]

Here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's a black. You can take that silent marker. You can challenge it there.

[Jolly]

Okay, Round one.

[Fireball]

Yes.

[Jolly]

Get ready to ride on your boards. This round is Worth one point. Both of you write down the most overrated piece of thru hiking gear used at least by 5 to 10% of through hikers. So does that be the most popular? Yes, yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So piece of gear not used by everyone on trail, but like if you're working at mountain crossing, something that you'd see daily.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Just to give you a perspective about.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Easy, easy.

[Jolly]

Okay. Big reveal. Chance. You reveal first.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Stuff sack.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Fireball]

Okay. Useless.

[Jabba]

A trout.

[Fireball]

Sounds like a surface shitter to me.

[Jabba]

Okay, stuff your trail in a sec.

[Jolly]

Okay. Okay, I'm gonna go. Stuff sack.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You think there was a question there?

[Jolly]

No.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No part of just shouting.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

They booed him.

[Jabba]

They have to.

[Zach Badger Davis]

They have to present their cases.

[Jolly]

Oh, you want them to present their.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, they have to actually give a case. They can't just write on the board, present your case.

[Jabba]

Can't wait.

[Fireball]

My case.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Day two on the PCT, 2017. I got to. What's the name of that place?

[Fireball]

War.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, there. Where was it? What was it called? What was the name of the store?

[Jolly]

No.

[Jabba]

Laguna. Mount Laguna.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Mount Laguna. There was a store. Yeah, Mount Laguna Outfitter.

[Jabba]

100%. A little, like, closeted, like, you know

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

the name of the outfitter?

[Jabba]

Maluna Outfitters.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, great. That's it. And there were the outfitters sitting outside with beers, somewhat tipsy, just waiting to heckle you for a shakedown. And all they were yelling was stuff sack. And every time they saw a stuff sack, it.

[Fireball]

Stuff sack.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And they'd throw it. And so I quickly learned that stuff sacks were something to be ashamed of. And basically, from what I gathered from sitting there, because my feet were really sore, I had blood blisters in place a both of my heels. I couldn't really walk well. So I sat there for a bit because I was like, this is entertaining. And I just observed. And what I learned was that you don't take. You don't take stuff sacks unless you kind of get.

[Jabba]

So you don't hike with any stuff sacks anymore.

[Zach Badger Davis]

That's what you're trying to say. Not one.

[Jabba]

Not one stuff sack. Interesting.

[Elise]

Interesting.

[Fireball]

Ziploc bat. Yeah, interesting.

[Jabba]

An overrated person with stuff sacks.

[Jolly]

Okay, Java, what do you got anyways?

[Jabba]

You don't need a trowel ever. You can literally use your heel. A stick, a rock. Flip over a rock. The trowel is overrated.

[Fireball]

Does that sound like six inches you're carrying? Does that sound six inches?

[Jabba]

You don't weigh more than a stuff sack. I let you talk Shabbat.

[Fireball]

Does that sound like 6 inches?

[Jabba]

A trail weighs more than a stuff sack.

[Fireball]

Don't worry.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Jabba's used to exaggerating what six inches looks like.

[Jabba]

By the way, it sounds like Chantz has firsthand experience experiencing that.

[Fireball]

No, I'm telling you, I know what six inches look like, and you can't get.

[Jabba]

Then why are you talking about it? He's okay. Garrett's right here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I know my six inches. Thank you. I actually know seven inches. Love you, Garrett.

[Jabba]

Oh, my. Okay, trouser. More. Way heavier.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Moving on.

[Fireball]

Wait, no. He has to drink. He has to take a shot.

[Jabba]

Now that we've only.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, so the format is supposed to be. They present their cases, then you rule, and then the crowd rules. Now that you've heard the rule, I

[Jolly]

now have a new answer.

[Fireball]

Shut up.

[Jolly]

It's still you.

[Jabba]

Okay, good.

[Fireball]

I was gonna say I thought you were cool.

[Jolly]

I actually met your parents as soon

[Jabba]

as you said alcohol poisoning. Incoming.

[Jolly]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jabba]

We all know how this is gonna go.

[Fireball]

You're a big boy.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You'll be good.

[Jabba]

Exactly. You're gonna make me drink 10 of them. They're all gonna make me drink 10

[Fireball]

if you decide to answer wrong. So.

[Jolly]

So, actually, as soon as you said, stuff sex, same exact experience. Those guys right there, dude, brutal. They're like.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But you know what? You learn a lesson.

[Jolly]

You're like.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You're right. I don't need stuff sex.

[Fireball]

All I need is, like, two Ziploc bags.

[Jolly]

I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, crowd. How do you feel about stuffed sex? Little boobs.

[Fireball]

Wait, are we cheering? If we think it's the one that we punish or the one that we, like, put.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's overrated.

[Jolly]

Okay. Travel.

[Jess]

Yeah.

[Jabba]

I use the trout every day.

[Fireball]

You use a trowel every day.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Somebody put a muzzle on Garrett. He's trying to help you. He's literally trying to help you right now.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You already. It's a good point.

[Fireball]

You're not gonna. Everyone that says that is lying.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And they're not digging.

[Jolly]

Java drinks.

[Jabba]

Okay, so here comes one shot.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

How many questions?

[Zach Badger Davis]

There's six questions.

[Fireball]

I know this because I dig my

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

holes with 10 stakes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Do we now understand the format?

[Jolly]

Yes. Everyone's on the same page.

[Jabba]

They understand all that.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, you'll get one.

[Jolly]

You'll get one.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You'll get one.

[Fireball]

Hey, cheers to you.

[Garrett]

Hey. Here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Cheers.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I will add to this. There are some of these questions where you may agree, and it'll come down to who has the more convincing answer. In this scenario, where you guys have the same answer. You get 30 seconds each to present your case. I'm going to time it. And whoever has the more convincing 30 second pitch is the winner of that round.

[Jabba]

Y' all are going to pay for this.

[Jolly]

All right?

[Jabba]

In the future, you're up dead.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I mean, I'll be blacked up, blacked

[Jabba]

out enough at the end of this to possibly reshape this.

[Fireball]

You might.

[Jolly]

You might win some big dog. Okay.

[Fireball]

Would you let me shave it?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You said no left.

[Zach Badger Davis]

By the way, Jolly is staying at your house tonight, so hang that over his head.

[Jolly]

Was.

[Fireball]

That's fine. You can stay with us.

[Jolly]

No, thank you.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We don't have any furniture.

[Jolly]

Perfect. Perfect. Okay, round two. Which trail is worse, The AT or the pct? Write down your answer.

[Zach Badger Davis]

First of all, which trail is worse?

[Jabba]

This is fucking rigged.

[Jolly]

All right?

[Jabba]

This whole fucking game is rigged.

[Fireball]

Why is it rigged? Do you know what you're gonna put?

[Jabba]

Of course I know what I'm about,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

but I'm kind of torn, right?

[Jabba]

Each time, looking to get food each time.

[Zach Badger Davis]

So which trails works, right?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This could turn into a segment where you just get booed every time. This would be the best send off I've ever had.

[Fireball]

I'm going to be so happy.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm like, oh, my God, that was a great night.

[Fireball]

I'm not even going to know why.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm just feeling. That was so fun.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Every time Jabba comes to the Skylark, he just gets fucking shaved. Every time, we either shave his beard or make him drink a boat. A boat ton of whiskey.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Jolly]

All right, all right.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Next time, instead of giving out raffle tickets when people get here, we're going to give them all small rocks.

[Jolly]

All you have to do is write down, he doesn't know how to spell.

[Fireball]

Give him some time.

[Jolly]

That's all you got to write down. And then flip it. Give your case Java.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You know what?

[Jabba]

I'm gonna be contrarian here intentionally. The PCT is worse than the Appalachian java.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Wait, are we rating on what's worse or what's better?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Worse.

[Jolly]

Which one's worse?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Hold on.

[Jabba]

Which one's worth Chance or Java? She wrote chance.

[Jolly]

Wait, you read the sixth question already?

[Jabba]

Did you just write the actual letter A?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, I wrote what I actually meant.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, so now before you give your answer, Chaunce, flip yours. And then Jabba gives his response.

[Fireball]

This isn't an easy answer.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm putting the at, but I don't mean it.

[Jabba]

Oh, all right.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We got different answers. I was expecting you guys to go the opposite.

[Fireball]

No.

[Jabba]

So the reason The PCT is worse, I believe, is because anyone who hikes the at, especially if they hike it first, it's the pure experience to hiking because you're not, like, filled with the luxurious views all day. The work you put in on the AT is legit. So when you actually make it to the beautiful spots in the at, you had to wait. You had to wait for it. All right? You know, so. So every mile you hike on the at, you work for it. So every day that you work for it means that when you finally get to that payoff, it's that much sweeter. And on the pct, you're fucking jaded. At a certain point, you're just trying to do 30, 40 miles a day just to, like get to Canada. We're on the at. You're like, listen, if I get 20 today, hell yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You know what I mean?

[Jabba]

So in my opinion, the AT is superior. And also, by the way, okay, that PCT is graded for pack animals. We're not pack animals. We're human beings with two legs and we can hike straight up a mountain. All right? And that's what the AT does. The PCT makes it easy for you in every conceivable way. All right?

[Jolly]

Yep.

[Jabba]

And the AT is also the best and first long distance hiking trail in the U.S. besides, of course, the Vermont long Trail.

[Jolly]

That's a great ending point. Thank you, Java. Thank you, Java.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It sounds like you're saying the AT is the best trail because it's typically people's first trails, so they don't know any better yet. So that there's not many views. But when they just.

[Jabba]

If you hiked it last.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Excuse me, this is my time. Put your microphone down. Anywho, it seems like what you're saying is because they don't know better yet, when they get this rear view, they're really excited about it. And then they go to the PCT and they've already had these experiences and then they get spoiled.

[Jabba]

Yeah, the pct.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And I can see why you would say it that way, as the AT was your first trail. But as someone who had the PCT as their first trail, I didn't only like the AT because it was my first trail, because there were a lot of people that only like the AT so much because it was their first trail and they have that nostalgia. As someone who did it second, I appreciated it very much. But I came at it from a much more objective viewpoint of not being jaded by the first trail. You know, mask of. This is beautiful. And so while it was very fun. It was very crowded. There were a lot of mice. There was a lot of people. There was a lot of norovirus pct. What I had was great views. I didn't sleep in a tent for more than five nights. The crowds were perfectly fine, and everything was lovely.

[Jabba]

Worse is a subjective word.

[Jolly]

This is. This is hard. What do you mean?

[Jabba]

The term worse in this context is subjective.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, that's the entire reason there's a segment.

[Fireball]

Good job.

[Jolly]

Okay, I'm gonna cut you off there. I've made my decision. Job. You were compelling. I'm gonna give it to you. That was good. That was good.

[Jabba]

I didn't hear any votes from out here, though.

[Jolly]

Well, I.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

He says first.

[Jabba]

Okay.

[Garrett]

All right.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Have you listened to the instructions?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay.

[Jolly]

Out here to the audience for another drink. Do you agree with Jabba? Do you agree with chants? Okay, that's tie. That's one for one.

[Jabba]

We need a tiebreaker. Wait, Zach doesn't.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Is Zach, you're not a tiebreaker in this?

[Jolly]

No, Sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry to mislead. Seanz wins the audience vote There.

[Jabba]

Sure, I get it.

[Jolly]

That is one for one. So I'm gonna hand out one to each. One to each.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What do you mean, one for one?

[Fireball]

Did you vote for him?

[Jolly]

I vote for him.

[Fireball]

And the crowd would have felt you believed it.

[Jolly]

He was compelling.

[Jabba]

Oh, I'm sorry. Are you trying to sway the judge?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm wondering how we could believe you.

[Jolly]

That was compelling.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

He just wants me to drink. They're just doing it for the bit.

[Jolly]

The at was also my first trail, and he brought up some good points.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So you're saying you're biased?

[Zach Badger Davis]

I gave you brow.

[Jabba]

We're both on the east coast. And how dare you gave it to me?

[Fireball]

I earned it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I earned it with my strong response. You didn't give me anything.

[Jolly]

You did Round three. It's gonna get a little bit crazier over here. Might be a little harder. Here's your question. Would you rather earn 10 cents for every step you take or $1,000 a day for the next five years? Either way, you do not see a dime until five years are up. Right?

[Jabba]

Wait.

[Jolly]

Yeah, I'll do 10 steps.

[Jabba]

I'll do some math for every step I take. For how long?

[Jolly]

Five years.

[Jabba]

Five years.

[Jolly]

I'll do the math. I'll do the math for you.

[Jabba]

A thousand with the math. That's the beauty of it.

[Jolly]

The crowd's asking for a little bit of math. $1,000 a day for five years comes out to $1,825,000 guaranteed. To match that on 10 cents a step, you need 10,000 steps a day.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's it?

[Jolly]

Yeah. For five years straight, no days off. And if you. If you really want to get it, say you walk 40,000 steps instead, that's over $7 million. 300,000. So if you want to put in

[Zach Badger Davis]

some work, well, all right.

[Jolly]

I'm ready.

[Jabba]

I'm ready. I didn't want the mat. The math ruined the. The reason for it.

[Jolly]

Defend first.

[Jabba]

The math ruined it, in my opinion.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, I get to defend first.

[Jolly]

You're right there. Do you need some time?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, I was. I was writing upside down. It's hard.

[Jess]

Oh, got you.

[Jabba]

Find what you have.

[Jolly]

You don't do that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So, anyway, my first answer was $1,000. I work from home. I don't get many steps. However, once I heard that the 10 cents, that only makes 10,000 steps a day, according to the Fitbit I got when I was 13. You're supposed to take those every day no matter what.

[Jolly]

Yes, that is healthy.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't take them because I work from home, but I crossed it out, because now that I know that, it's all the motivation I need. And that equals how much money?

[Jolly]

What, 10?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The thousand one. That was how much?

[Jolly]

1,000 is 1,825,000.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So if I just get 10,000 steps a day, like the bare minimum I'm supposed to get by, just like, existing, I would get more than. What was the number?

[Zach Badger Davis]

The break even is 10,000 steps a day.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Right.

[Zach Badger Davis]

If you hike less than that.

[Garrett]

I know.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I want to hear the number again.

[Jolly]

1,000,825.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So I could end up, like, 2, 3, 4 mil if I just, like, walked a little.

[Jolly]

Well, if you do 40,000 steps today, it's 7 million.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Jess]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This was. This was the obvious one until you pointed out the math, obviously, because I work from home.

[Jabba]

That's why you should.

[Fireball]

But I can.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Money motivates me.

[Jolly]

Okay. It does. Yeah. Money talks.

[Jabba]

So I don't know how really. We're supposed to, like, make our case differently. It's just like, the more money one with more steps is the way.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I mean, I explained, like, the math and the logic.

[Jolly]

I picked an answer in my head. Sure.

[Jabba]

But here's what I know. Here's what I know. Like, the motivation you're talking about. You still work at desk, so.

[Jolly]

Yeah. Because you don't see the money for five years, so you have to still survive.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Do you know how stubborn it.

[Jabba]

Do you have a walking desk? Do you have one of those, like little like.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I do. I have a walking treadmill. I've had one for years.

[Jabba]

You have your desk at it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I can.

[Fireball]

I can.

[Jabba]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I can.

[Jabba]

That's helpful.

[Jess]

Right on. Cool.

[Jabba]

Cool. I don't know how to make a argument because the more money is more steps.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You haven't made a point yet.

[Jabba]

The point is I walk all the way. All, like all year long, more or less.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You notice how it transitions that way? It just turns to like.

[Jabba]

I mean, like my day job still is like.

[Elise]

What is your day job?

[Jabba]

Exactly what we're talking about.

[Elise]

Walking.

[Jabba]

You feel like questioning it. Like you don't actually know it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So the listener might not. I am nearly a vessel for this.

[Jolly]

What's your final.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Final point here?

[Jolly]

What is it?

[Jabba]

Yeah, final point is I'll make a boatload of money in five years.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Jabba]

Obviously.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Tough one.

[Fireball]

Tough one, huh?

[Jabba]

What are we talking about? I don't know.

[Fireball]

What?

[Zach Badger Davis]

No one made a point.

[Jolly]

What do you mean?

[Fireball]

I did math. I explained why I thought that was.

[Jabba]

It's not a complication between who makes more money.

[Fireball]

Yeah, I give a complete explanation.

[Jolly]

I'm gonna give this to John because Java was waiting for you to say something.

[Fireball]

You just think I made a point.

[Jabba]

It makes no sense.

[Fireball]

Neither of you made a point.

[Jabba]

You explain the reason. The point we want to.

[Jolly]

I'll let the audience vote. Before I say something, I feel like it's very simple.

[Fireball]

That's right, Maureen. Chomps. Chomps.

[Jolly]

Yes. Okay.

[Fireball]

That's right.

[Jolly]

And Jabba. And Jabba.

[Fireball]

Oh my God.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is my dream. We all know flower petals showered upon her at the crowd. She and did Jabba.

[Jolly]

So Jabba's not doing massad tequila.

[Jabba]

We all know.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Can you imagine?

[Jolly]

So I was really looking for. Yeah, that's super easy. I thru hike all the time. I'll just do that.

[Jabba]

That's exactly Zack.

[Fireball]

So Zack's so bo.

[Jabba]

I literally said it. I do it for a living. What do you want me to say?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Do it for a living.

[Fireball]

Like something better wrote me up.

[Jolly]

And I was waiting till. There could have been so much conversation.

[Fireball]

So I had.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I had an explanation once.

[Jabba]

The answer was.

[Jolly]

You could have said we had different

[Jabba]

answers until she heard the map.

[Jolly]

You could have been climb to the top.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

How do you feel about him arguing with your decision?

[Jolly]

I know.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Do you feel like a lack of respect?

[Zach Badger Davis]

I do kind of.

[Jolly]

That's a good point.

[Fireball]

I often times feel that too.

[Jolly]

I even felt like I told him

[Fireball]

like the answer and he still. He still didn't get it. You're in good company here, Crazy.

[Jabba]

The answer for me would have been the math.

[Fireball]

Don't worry, I am.

[Jolly]

I just feel like there could have declined to the top.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I know.

[Jolly]

I do 50. I do 60.

[Fireball]

You know, it could have been that

[Jabba]

way, but he was the answer for me.

[Jolly]

That's okay.

[Jabba]

All right, here's the shots, everybody. If you got a drink, put them up.

[Fireball]

We'll all drink together.

[Jabba]

If you got a drink, put them up for shots.

[Fireball]

You guys, stop.

[Jabba]

Everybody

[Jolly]

okay?

[Jabba]

Yeah, but, Dabba, don't.

[Jolly]

So round.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So far, this has been a really fun segment for me.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Round four.

[Jolly]

Here we go. Jabba, can you take it back?

[Jabba]

Sure, yeah.

[Jolly]

Whatever the topic is the gas station year.

[Zach Badger Davis]

If you're a regular listener of backpacker radio, this is a debate that's been had many times.

[Jabba]

I can't wait to win this one.

[Jolly]

I've heard this one before.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm already writing my answer for one full year.

[Jolly]

Every single time you go to the bathroom, every pee, every poop, no exceptions, no emergencies. It has to happen at a gas station bathroom. Make it the entire year without a single miss, and you earn $1 million. Ms. Even once, and you walk away with nothing. Make your case to me. Are you in or are you out? Jabba, you're starting this out on this one.

[Jabba]

Sure.

[Jolly]

What's up to.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm still writing.

[Jabba]

Sean's just writing way too much already. I'm out. And here's why. My time is worth way fucking more than that shit.

[Zach Badger Davis]

All right, Like.

[Jabba]

Okay, the stipulations are you don't live next to a fucking gas station bathroom. Where do you. What? Garrett, where are you at?

[Fireball]

How much money do you.

[Jabba]

Garrett, how much money do I have?

[Fireball]

How much money do you have?

[Jabba]

Okay, so you have so much money. Do you know how. What's the address of your new home?

[Fireball]

You just made so much hiking. You made so much money hiking that

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

a million dollars pays you at all.

[Jabba]

Hey, Sean, can you answer me one question? What's your address?

[Fireball]

You shit on the trail, but you

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

wouldn't shit in a fucking gas station?

[Jabba]

I don't piss in my own fucking feet, puddle. That's for sure. So for a million, I'll assume like, a million. It's like three miles away.

[Fireball]

I piss on my own face.

[Jabba]

You want me to answer this question,

[Zach Badger Davis]

or do you want to shut up?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't want to do anything three miles away. It's not my podcast anymore.

[Jolly]

No, it's okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I can't answer it. Rule is, when you're giving your Case the other person is not Jesus.

[Jabba]

All right, let's just say for the sake of the argument, you have a three mile walk and. Or drive to your gas station that is closest to your home.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Why would I walk?

[Jolly]

I don't know.

[Fireball]

Hey, I'm.

[Jolly]

Right now.

[Jabba]

All right, so let's just say you're driving there. It's a five minute drive. Have you ever had violent diarrhea before?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No.

[Jabba]

Not once in your life?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I couldn't understand.

[Jabba]

This girl's lying, all right, so imagine that for a second. I'm not even trying to like, convince her.

[Jolly]

She's obviously an idiot.

[Jabba]

So. If you had violent diarrhea for even two days of your fucking year, you know what it'd be like to go back and forth, back and forth and back?

[Jolly]

Okay, no, you'll have your time back

[Jabba]

and forth and back and forth, all right? For every piss, you're gonna stop drinking water. You're gonna stop being. Just so you don't want to have to go down to that fucking public restroom in a gas station that is cleaned how many times a day?

[Fireball]

Maybe never.

[Jabba]

Maybe never the entire week. That's what you got to live with for an entire year.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Year.

[Jabba]

All right.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay.

[Jolly]

I have.

[Jabba]

I. My time is worth more than a measy million dollars, I'll tell you that. Right.

[Jolly]

You bring up a good point. Chance. That's it. How do you feel about that?

[Fireball]

What do you think?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I feel like I'm the only one at this table who has ever had the cops show up because they spent too much time outside of a gas station because they had to shit so much and so often.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I sure hope so.

[Fireball]

I don't think anyone else. I don't think anyone.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Sure hope so.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So talking from experience of being a person that has to use a gas station as a bathroom,

[Fireball]

I know it from the ins and outs. Why are you laughing?

[Jabba]

Just laughing.

[Fireball]

That's an important thing. I know what.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I know all the ins and outs.

[Jolly]

Okay, so you're gonna live outside of a gas station until the cops.

[Fireball]

No, I know. I know from that experience. I know from that experience that I'm

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

like very happy and fine with doing that. Like, sure, that wasn't a bad experience? Here's the thing. I was staying with a friend. We got back from the. I got back from the at. Stop laughing like that.

[Fireball]

Whoever it is with a cackle. Stop it. Who's cackling? Whoever has the cackle leaves.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It was more of a delighted giggle.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, cool.

[Fireball]

Anyway, so I got back from the at.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did not have an apartment. Was living out of my car. Was staying in a man's garage. The bathroom of the house was next to his. Yeah, picture it.

[Fireball]

Bathroom.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

His house is next to his bedroom. And he woke up very early for work, and he was like, don't wake me up.

[Fireball]

Cool.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm not paying rent. I'm sleeping in your garage. Like, I would not dream of waking you up. The bathroom's right next to his bedroom. And he has a yappy dog. What? He has a yappy dog. And so I'm like, if I go upstairs to shit, I'm gonna wake him up and he's gonna be mad. And like, I'm living in this man's house for free. Not his house, but his garage for free. Anyway, so I go to the gas station. I go to the gas station and it's a bad time, and I keep going. I keep going to sleep because I'm

[Jolly]

like, at the gas station.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

At the gas station. Because I don't want to go home and then have to drive back. And they called the.

[Fireball]

I told. I told the person.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I tend. I told them. I was like, hey, I'm having a bad time. I'm going to have to keep coming back in. They called the fucking cops on me.

[Jolly]

So you painted the picture of the garage you're living in?

[Jabba]

No.

[Fireball]

So then I'm at.

[Jolly]

I'm sorry.

[Fireball]

I am going to give you the point.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I will.

[Fireball]

Anyway.

[Jolly]

Anyway, why are you sleeping at the back of this?

[Fireball]

Oh, because I have.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I have the thermarest mondo in my car. I don't think they sell it anymore, but it's a. It's an inflatable mattress. In the back of your car?

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Anyway, I digress. I digress. I could not go back home because it was such a problem. Anyway, then the cops come and they're like, hey, you've been hanging out here for a while. And I'm like, I'm. I'm so sorry. I'm unwell.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It becomes a thing.

[Fireball]

But all I'm saying.

[Jolly]

Did you persevere and continue to use that gas station bathroom?

[Fireball]

Yeah. I told the cops.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was like, listen, I'm not homeless. They offered a woman's shelter. They were like, do you want to go to a woman's shelter?

[Fireball]

And I was like, no, I'm not. I'm not homeless. I just really, like, I'm having stomach problems.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And if I go on the second floor of this man's house, he's going

[Fireball]

to be upset because I ruined his work day.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Fireball]

All I'm saying is I have what?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Stop fucking chit chatting.

[Fireball]

If you don't know me in nine

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

years well enough to know that I have a fucking point to this, then like, go home.

[Jabba]

We already had this argument so many times.

[Fireball]

What are.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You have argued with me about this specific story.

[Jolly]

Oh, yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You're not even holding your microphone.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Don't argue with your job.

[Jolly]

I would like to know the point as well.

[Fireball]

The point? The point is. The point is these guys are talking

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

from like kind of trying to visualize what needing to shit in a gas station bathroom might be like.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Fireball]

And as someone that had to actually

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

park outside of one and spend a quality amount of hours there because of no other option, I feel like I have a better feel for what that experience might be. And I am totally fine with it.

[Jolly]

Cool with it.

[Fireball]

But I. But I feel like I come with experience. I come with experience.

[Jabba]

But how many times did you use that jama.

[Jolly]

Thank you. 10 seconds. Do you have a last remark?

[Fireball]

You're gonna give him another?

[Jolly]

No, I'm letting you have 10 more seconds.

[Fireball]

It's not that hard. No, no. I want my 10 seconds. It's not that hard. It's not that hard. Just spend one year of your life parked outside a gas station. I'm sorry. I could quit my job, what, five, ten years earlier?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I wouldn't have to work a nine to five because I spent one year parked outside of a gas station.

[Jolly]

And your ten seconds are up. Thank you. Okay, so I made this is obvious a while ago.

[Jabba]

Actually.

[Jolly]

Jabba wins this one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She described one time going to the bathroom and the cops were caught. I also described for a year, the cops were called. The cops were called like four.

[Jabba]

We understand. It is understood.

[Fireball]

I didn't leave. I said, hey, but if we. I don't need the women's shelter. I'm good.

[Jolly]

If we continue this experiment.

[Jabba]

Beat one down.

[Jolly]

Holy

[Fireball]

himself in front of cops.

[Jabba]

Ma', am, do you need a women's shelter?

[Fireball]

I just showed you resilience. I just showed you getting past the.

[Jabba]

I understand that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I understand that you're just anti woman.

[Jolly]

It was only for one day.

[Jabba]

So apparently the cops are also anti women because you struggled so much at one time.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

They were actually pro women.

[Jolly]

If you don't like men's, you can rectify.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The cops are pro women because I had a bowl in the front of my car.

[Fireball]

I'll say this one time, Z, I can. And you know what? Here's my answer. Here's my answer, and I'm sorry.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I rubbed part of it off of my hand.

[Fireball]

Anyone with $1 million to spare, call, cross off, email me. That's my email camera.

[Garrett]

Look at it.

[Fireball]

If you have $1 million that you

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

don't care about and you want to

[Fireball]

spend it and you don't know what

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

to spend it on, email me.

[Fireball]

Yeah, I will sit out of a gas.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I will sit outside of a gas station for one year, and I will only use it as my bathroom.

[Fireball]

I am so happy, so happy to

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

quit my job and devote one year of my life to this. I hope the camera zooms in. If anyone has a spare million, I am eager.

[Fireball]

I'm not just willing, I'm eager.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Listen, let me do this for you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We get it.

[Jolly]

That's good.

[Jabba]

I would like to hear just for.

[Fireball]

Let me do it.

[Jabba]

Who they're going to pick, but I just want to hear.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Jabba]

What Zach has to say in general about the matter.

[Jolly]

I think I might. You want to let the audience.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I agree with that. Boo.

[Jolly]

That.

[Jabba]

I'm just curious what your logical brain has to say.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

When did he get a logical brain?

[Zach Badger Davis]

You're forfeiting a year of your life. Life is so short. You could die of cancer at a year and six months, and you spent a year of that just waiting outside of.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You get.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You don't get to go to concerts. You don't get to go on an airplane. You don't get to go for a backpack. You trip legitimately. You're hitting a pause button for a year to diarrhea in some disgusting place.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Sounds like a SC.

[Zach Badger Davis]

To make an amount of money where you don't even get to quit your job. I go with that.

[Jolly]

Officially.

[Jabba]

That's. That's a. That's a good point. You don't get to quit your job. You still have to go to work and still use that gas station all day long.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But what if I die?

[Jabba]

Okay.

[Jolly]

What if you die? I'm.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You guys, life is short. You got to live it up. We're backpacking.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So again, proud of it.

[Jolly]

If we think chance can do it for a year, go ahead and cheer.

[Fireball]

Not only can I. I am actively seeking this out. Anyone with a spare million.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm talking to the Internet here.

[Fireball]

Call me.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Email me juliannachaunceymail.com if you have a spare mill.

[Fireball]

I would be so.

[Jabba]

So I hope somebody has the million and forces her to live this in practical application. I would love to know after day

[Fireball]

four, any other rich person. Okay, you guys have the means Let me do it.

[Elise]

Let me.

[Jolly]

I would love to see it because I don't think you can do it. $1 million says she. Does anyone think the jab answer was better?

[Jabba]

I'll put up a million dollars.

[Fireball]

You have a million. You work in hiking.

[Jabba]

You work in hiking.

[Jolly]

So. Well, the crowd vote was going to be like a beer.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Do you have a million in equity and jolly gear that you could pay me?

[Fireball]

No.

[Jabba]

The rules and the rules.

[Jolly]

Okay, she drank that one.

[Fireball]

I drink already.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You mean rules and the rules. Sounds like I didn't procrastinate.

[Jolly]

Okay, so I'm shocked that no one said I'd move closer to a gas station and be like, yo, dude, I need to use this bathroom every day. You know, I.

[Garrett]

From the start.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'll say it again. I am just waiting for something.

[Jolly]

You're ready for it.

[Jabba]

Can your job be right?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

When I get their money where their mouth is.

[Jabba]

Job right. By a guy.

[Jolly]

Moving on. 2.

[Jabba]

Round five.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Literally want it.

[Jolly]

Round five.

[Jabba]

Sean quits your job, works in the gas station.

[Fireball]

I would.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, I wouldn't even work there. I would just park outside.

[Jolly]

A million dollars.

[Garrett]

Go.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

A million dollars.

[Jabba]

Go.

[Jolly]

Do it. Round five.

[Fireball]

That's crazy. I would do it in this. You would?

[Jolly]

All right, Chance.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Round five. Round five. Round five. Round five.

[Fireball]

Experiment.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Round five.

[Jolly]

Here are your two options. Listen carefully.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The house experiment, that's the title.

[Jolly]

Option one. Job in chance. Spend six months together in the same 800 square foot studio apartment.

[Jabba]

Never gonna happen.

[Jolly]

All your food is delivered. There is a small fenced in backyard. No outside visitors for the entire six months. If you both make it full six months, you each walk away with a million dollars. Here's the catch. If either one of you bails early, the one who bails gets nothing. And the one who stays gets 500,000 instead. That money cannot be shared with the person who bailed. So no planning. Try and split it and it's life in prison. Yeah, we take this seriously. You haven't even heard option two yet. But I like what you're doing over there.

[Jabba]

You're trying to say. Hold on, let me just fully understand this. Like we have to spend a year together in an 800 square foot apartment.

[Jolly]

Six months. Six months.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Sorry.

[Jabba]

Okay. And the person who lasts the longest wins the money.

[Jolly]

If you both make it, you get a million dollars. The last person who stays gets 500,000.

[Zach Badger Davis]

If one person leaves.

[Jolly]

Yes. You both laugh.

[Fireball]

So if he quits, I lose $500,000. What are you talking about? If he. If he. If he quits, I lose $500,000 as

[Zach Badger Davis]

the person who dreamt up this insane snack. Thank you. You can't just be like, I'm gonna bail on day one, and we'll split the money.

[Jolly]

Yes.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What he's saying is that if you make it through, you get a million, but if someone quits, you only get 500,000.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Correct.

[Fireball]

So Java quits.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I only get 500,000.

[Jabba]

Yeah. So the goal is for us, but make it.

[Jolly]

But you could. I'll let you give.

[Zach Badger Davis]

If you become so insufferable after a week.

[Jabba]

Yes.

[Jolly]

You could be missing.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Jabba's like, I'm out of here. You get 500,000.

[Jolly]

Yeah. Now, again, this is studio apartment.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Worried about you leaving.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Hold it. Hold it here.

[Jolly]

Obviously, studio apartment.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You want to hang out.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Option the peanut gallery's got to shut the up right now.

[Fireball]

It's all right, people.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We are the peanut gallery. It's our challenge.

[Fireball]

We have to stay together.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Reading the options. You are the peanut gallery.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We're trying to negotiate our own thing.

[Jolly]

Option number two. You get $1,000 right now, today, and are permanently barred from ever interacting with one another again.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What a gift.

[Fireball]

I'm kidding.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Someone appreciated that.

[Jolly]

Thank you. What's it gonna be?

[Jabba]

The crowd's like, we'll donate.

[Fireball]

Here's the thing.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I think I.

[Jolly]

Well, write down your answer.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Write down your answer.

[Jolly]

Write down your answer, and then we will have.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I already wrote down the answer, but

[Fireball]

I haven't thought about it, and you

[Jolly]

get to go first.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, great.

[Fireball]

Give me the house with a little devil face.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

With a little snake tongue.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Is that option one? You have to define what that means.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Me and Jabba in a house, Literally the entire plot of option one. Okay, that's this. But I will say.

[Jabba]

I will say a milli.

[Fireball]

It's also.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's a studio apartment. For the record, 800 square feet.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Have you ever met either of us? We are both so stubborn that we.

[Jabba]

And unhinged.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And we will. We will bond together against the mutual enemy, which is whoever.

[Fireball]

Whoever has the money. The anemone has no chance, by the way.

[Jabba]

We definitely will bond over that.

[Jolly]

C. Totally.

[Jabba]

By the way. We got this.

[Fireball]

You cannot high five. All I'm saying is, yes, we will

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

feud, but we will. We will put our feuds aside. We will put our views aside in the name of mutual money earnings.

[Fireball]

I think we could. I think we could agree on that, right?

[Jabba]

Do we get free 911 calls?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Did you give your.

[Fireball]

I think we always. I. I will say, I think we always give free 911 calls.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Fireball]

I don't think they ever stop you

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

from making a 911 call and say, hey, pay.

[Jabba]

This her face? Yeah, it's broken again.

[Fireball]

Hey, do you want your help?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Little help over here.

[Jabba]

Okay.

[Jolly]

Those. That's. That was a combined effort. You YouTube joined efforts in a way I didn't think possible.

[Jabba]

Well, you want that million, bro.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Jabba]

We are going to definitely survive that.

[Jolly]

And that was convincing.

[Jabba]

I'm going to take a shot.

[Jolly]

Here's the thing.

[Fireball]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do it.

[Jolly]

I'm going to take a shot.

[Fireball]

Here's the thing. We heated each other until we have

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

a mutual reason to work together.

[Fireball]

And then we will work together.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

End of the earth.

[Fireball]

And no one will get between us. If we were ever put on, like, an arm race or some.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, I've learned. If we were ever put on like, Amazing Race or something where we had to, like, make the m. The. Make the same mutual goal together, I think we could really just, like, up all the competition.

[Fireball]

But without that motive.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Our uncharted rage just goes against each other.

[Jolly]

Bullets and builds.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And then one of us has another with each other. And that's great, too.

[Zach Badger Davis]

As much as I love this bonding experience, we need a point right now for the score keeping. Jess is keeping. I don't have a tight score. I can tell right now she's got her calculator out and she's running the numbers.

[Jolly]

I actually gave myself the point.

[Jabba]

You got to carry the four.

[Jolly]

Well, I guess actually you both get a point and I am the loser. That was so combined. I was. I did not think possible, so.

[Fireball]

No, it is possible.

[Jabba]

You gotta fake it until you make it, baby. High five.

[Fireball]

High five. The people that don't know don't know.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

They don't know because I will.

[Fireball]

I will.

[Jolly]

They don't know.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I will fight with them to no end.

[Jolly]

I thought option two was I will, I will.

[Garrett]

We will really.

[Fireball]

We will really fight to no end.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But if you give us a common goal, I agree. I would say, would you not agree if we will fight to no end, but if you gave us a common goal.

[Jabba]

Yeah, 100%.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We could ban.

[Jolly]

I saw that. Thank you.

[Jabba]

Anyone who's listening, who doesn't believe that, trust us.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Pay me a million dollars.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm still willing to have a million dollars.

[Jolly]

What do we think you're.

[Jabba]

Are we going to be able to talk to each other later in life? Probably not, but we have a million dollars.

[Fireball]

Would we even want to.

[Jolly]

I don't even know the same answer. What do we think?

[Fireball]

I Don't think they know what's happening. You guys want Jolly to do another shot? Because we both.

[Jabba]

I can handle it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's not my first day on the

[Elise]

job,

[Fireball]

but it is my last.

[Jolly]

That. That. That's good.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, I know.

[Jabba]

Okay, whoever says that, clean your board for.

[Jolly]

Let me.

[Fireball]

Don't laugh about what is it?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Don't laugh about what happened. And laugh. Smile about what's to come. What did they say on the.

[Fireball]

What do they say on the aim post?

[Jabba]

Don't poop because it happened. Pee because you cried.

[Jolly]

Don't cry cuz it's over. Smile because it happened.

[Jabba]

Everybody knows.

[Jolly]

Okay, I will take the shot because this one's a pinker.

[Fireball]

Wait, no, no. Take the shot first.

[Jolly]

I will gladly take it. Round six.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Can we get. Can we get a couple more so

[Jolly]

they can stop fighting, please? The last one. Thank you so much.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Anyone?

[Fireball]

Anyone?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Tequila shots, please.

[Jolly]

No, no, we don't need any more, actually. Thank you so much.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is the last question, and then.

[Jolly]

We're losing control here. We're not.

[Fireball]

We just want accountability.

[Jabba]

By the way, you fed us tequila.

[Fireball]

We just want accountability.

[Jabba]

I promise. I want accountability.

[Fireball]

We want accountability. We want accountability.

[Jabba]

Thank God this is the only way.

[Jolly]

Okay, so round six.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I actually think that's our superpower.

[Jolly]

Self versus.

[Fireball]

It's just bonding together with. No one expects it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You guys, this. This one's a thinker. You gotta pay attention.

[Garrett]

They're like.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

We didn't expect them to be.

[Jabba]

You guys can all see yourselves out. Johns and I are fine here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, we're good.

[Jolly]

One last one. And this one is worth two points, so pay attention. Would you rather be able to tell your past self one thing or be able to ask your future self one question? And see, that's why I was trying to put off drinking my drink. Because, see, now you have to think about it. Yeah. So I was trying to delay, but y' all were.

[Jabba]

By the way, I'm just gonna go ahead on record right now and say it's the exact same thing.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Either way,

[Fireball]

that is a thought.

[Jabba]

Write down,

[Fireball]

this is what I think,

[Zach Badger Davis]

but you're gonna have to reveal what the thing is you're gonna tell yourself or the thing that you're gonna ask yourself.

[Jolly]

Please be ready.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Put some thought into it.

[Jolly]

Yes.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You can do it. Put your thought into it.

[Jolly]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

How's everyone in the crowd doing while we're. Well, some of us are ready.

[Fireball]

Are we all awake? Alive. Alive. Awake.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Alert. Enthusiastic.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We have one person that's somewhat dead over in the booth. And I am honestly associated with that person. Very hard.

[Fireball]

Two people in the front.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Thank you so much for dying in the corner. I'm dying up here as well.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

After everything I said about the front row. We have two people in the front row, and one of them, we pay, and the other has been a guest. Can we blame them?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Can you blame them?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Neither is my husband.

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Fireball]

Oh, oh, here he comes. Thank you.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's so kind.

[Jolly]

Jabba.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

There he is.

[Jolly]

How do you feel about your answer? You ready to share? Okay.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Thomas's going first, then.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay. What was the question?

[Jolly]

The question is, would you rather be able to tell your past self one thing or ask your future self one thing? And what would that be?

[Fireball]

Neither.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't like playing with the butterfly effect.

[Fireball]

I think everything happens for a reason.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Shut up. I have 30 seconds to explain.

[Fireball]

I have 30 seconds to explain myself.

[Elise]

I.

[Fireball]

Shut up, gary. I have 30 seconds to explain myself. I think that. What was the question?

[Jolly]

Ask self one thing or ask.

[Fireball]

Yeah, I don't want. I don't want sh. I don't want to do either of those.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't want to do either of those.

[Fireball]

If I told my past self anything,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I would miss 90% of the stupid opportunities I took because I had no idea what I was doing. If I told my future self something, I'd probably base what I'm doing off of what my past self said, which would probably have no impact on what my future self wanted. Because priorities changed. And I know that from when I turned 30, because when I turned 30, hangovers got bad and my priorities changed. And so if 28 year old me told 32 year old me something, I would be like, LOL. You're a dick. You have no idea what's coming for you. And you're gonna be so in pain.

[Fireball]

You know, like I'd be saying that.

[Jolly]

That's a great point.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So who am I to tell me what to do? I don't know what I'll be doing then.

[Jolly]

I like your take.

[Fireball]

You just gotta, like, go with the flow. Let's use it.

[Jolly]

Absolutely. Java, what is your take on.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Follow that one.

[Jabba]

All right.

[Fireball]

Yeah.

[Jabba]

In reality. I love Chant's response.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You don't think I'm living in reality?

[Jabba]

No, no, no.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Why'd you start with in reality? I loved your response when I was out of reality.

[Jabba]

You shut the up.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, Mike, I'm literally giving you credit

[Jabba]

as you're, like, thinking I'm not.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I can't help but hustle you.

[Fireball]

I love it.

[Jabba]

Okay, great. Please stop all right, I agree with chance. How does that. That work for you?

[Jolly]

Okay.

[Jabba]

Okay.

[Jolly]

And what is your point?

[Jabba]

But the point of this question is to choose one. You are asked to choose one.

[Fireball]

You cannot pick neither.

[Jabba]

The guy who's making the vote said, choose one.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

All right?

[Jabba]

Anyways, so I chose. I would ask my future self, and here's the reason. Because I am forced to choose one. And the one that, like, I have lived a life before my through hiking lifestyle, disadvantage lifestyle, where I have lived with a fuckload of regret. I have done a lot of things in my life I'm not proud of. And in those moments of unproudness that I have lived, I would have loved to have talked to my future self about anything that might be coming down the way. But as the person I stand here today, I have constantly said about my past self that I wouldn't change anything because it led me to where I am. And where I am I love.

[Fireball]

All right?

[Jabba]

The one regret I live with is that I caused grief from my parents at one point in my life. That's the only thing. So if I could go back and tell my past self, it'd be, don't upset your mother and father.

[Jolly]

That'd be it.

[Jabba]

But I have to choose one. And it's. I would ask my future self about how to make some motherfucking money. Y' all ever see guys in the future too? The almanac is how we make our millions.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Guys, don't cackle at this.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Someone spread their diarrhea in a gas station.

[Jabba]

Don't spread a diet diarrhea in a gas station without having an almanac for the future.

[Jolly]

Let's write this.

[Jabba]

In my case.

[Fireball]

Pause. What you didn't. What you didn't want to take. You didn't want to tell your parents.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What were one of those moments?

[Jabba]

I mean, I literally was a horrible

[Jolly]

human for a long time.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

In what way?

[Jolly]

We don't need to get into. You don't want to.

[Jabba]

You don't have to.

[Jolly]

But I feel like.

[Jabba]

What do you mean he's putting the mic down?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, he didn't put the mic down. He's actually holding it right in front of his mouth.

[Jabba]

You wanna see a duet right now? You ever watch Aladdin?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Only just because.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Forgive me for digging one level deeper. I thought it was my job.

[Jolly]

All right, let's swap up this one, and let's let the audience vote first.

[Fireball]

Juliana wins. Juliana win.

[Jabba]

Incredibly biased crowd.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You are.

[Fireball]

Why winning.

[Jabba]

Incredibly biased.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And how.

[Jolly]

If Juliana wins, give a. Give a nice shout. And if John Guys.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I love you all.

[Fireball]

Guys, Garage Garrett. Jiren.

[Jolly]

I do.

[Jabba]

By the sheer nature that Garrett cheered for me, who was paying.

[Jolly]

It was really close. I do think, Julia, you think you're

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

going to get money Shots.

[Jolly]

She won. She did. She did.

[Jabba]

However, my vote is highly predictable.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You're gonna get money from who?

[Fireball]

Who's gonna give you money?

[Jolly]

All right. That's okay. My vote does go to Jabba. Jabba wins, so the shot is awarded too.

[Zach Badger Davis]

How many shots?

[Fireball]

Okay, I'm still hung up on Garrett

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

not voting for me because he wanted to get money.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, no, no. He did not vote for you. He voted for Domino.

[Fireball]

That's not. That is also.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That is also not my problem.

[Fireball]

That is also not my problem.

[Jabba]

No, no, no. No way. Someone this whole time.

[Fireball]

I have a question I love for that. Who is giving you money?

[Jabba]

This is a back of the.

[Fireball]

What do you mean? If we get the future, what do you want?

[Jabba]

Not know who the Cubs win.

[Jolly]

He's saying that. He's saying that learning about ways to make money from future self is a great.

[Fireball]

He just said if we get back to the future.

[Jess]

No, I, I, I totally agree with your answer, but in the sense of like, who wins the Super bowl in 2035? Let's bet all of our savings on

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

it and triple it.

[Jolly]

Yeah. So.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So my husband's saying he doesn't believe in me.

[Jolly]

So. So Sean's won the popular vote.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Garrett's right. Garrett's correct.

[Jabba]

I'm saying the popular.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm flying to North Carolina tomorrow to live with him forever. All right, ladies and gentlemen, give a

[Jabba]

hand to Jolly and Jawa for participating

[Zach Badger Davis]

in the first and potentially last Judge Jolly segment.

[Fireball]

So if you were wondering, I also participated.

[Jolly]

Who is your co host?

[Zach Badger Davis]

You participate in everything.

[Jolly]

Who is the better person? It is John.

[Fireball]

He already left. You could have said Java.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You wouldn't even be here to claim

[Fireball]

it because he already left.

[Jabba]

I might as well be with.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Don't lose your better person, I take it.

[Fireball]

I just want to rub salt in the wound.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You're on thin ice right now.

[Fireball]

What do you mean I'm not on thin ice?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm not on thin ice to hoops. Not thin ice.

[Fireball]

Jolly.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I love you.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Okay, it's ladies. We're losing people. We're going to go. We're going to skip some segments. We're going to go straight to a present created by our wonderful editor.

[Garrett]

A present.

[Zach Badger Davis]

A present.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The word in the sense of like a gift that you give to someone.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yes, James, I'm pointing at you right

[Jabba]

Now

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Paulie has James, the guy that's in the booth. Yeah, that's not James, the guy that we know that runs the socials.

[Fireball]

Okay. I was like, he's not.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Surely he's not here.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is Paulie's present. We're just waiting for it to get you Paulie.

[Elise]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm a hot shot Burn boss taking care of a dinner plate. I'm gonna gaslight my whole team. Gap tooth a idiot. I am a cornbread hoe. It doesn't affect me.

[Fireball]

And you didn't do it until I

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

came in with a fat bag of burgers.

[Fireball]

Did it get in your way?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, has crooked pube on my tongue. And it's just like. It's like a fun experience. In your mouth. Yeah. Talk to me like I'm a piece of shit. This episode's going well for me. I tried to go, like, more in the front of the mouth than in the throat. The throat is where I always get stuck.

[Fireball]

The underwear.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm surprised we don't like big dicks. The bigger the bed. Like, I want this thing to fucking

[Garrett]

slap against me when I'm walking fast down a hill.

[Jess]

Oh, my God.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Are we gonna go get our assholes waxed together? How's your whole look? Is it a clean hole? Couldn't you just put it in your poop hole? This is my little dent, and I can shit in it. But you can't shit in my little den.

[Garrett]

Mine.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And I've had the cops called on me for sleeping outside a gas station because I had a shit.

[Fireball]

Give me your wallet. Give me everything in your wallet. Give me everything in your wallet. Give me everything in your wallet. Holly, I love you. That was amazing.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Can you please email me the RAW file for that? I would love to just save it.

[Fireball]

I don't know when I will listen

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

to it again, but I would love to save it. So if I'm ever, like, really sad one day, I have something to listen to. The thing that's really funny about this.

[Fireball]

Garrett, are you still here? I'm right here.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Where? Put your hand up. I'm not wearing my glasses. Oh, there you are. From the moment we started dating, he was like, cool, you're on a podcast. And I was like, yeah, you don't need to listen.

[Fireball]

And so he's never listened, because I was always like, you don't need to.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And anytime I've talked, no offense, but anytime I talk shit about him on it, I'm like, this is a safe space. He doesn't listen. Right? But now he has heard all of maybe my most embarrassing moments at once on a show that I told him, don't worry about it. You don't need to hear what's going on there. Imagine never hearing this show. Like, okay, everyone who's here has either heard the show before or is in the wrong place by accident. Imagine never having heard the show before and you just heard that. And then, bear with me. Go one step further. Imagine that's your wife. That's not great.

[Elise]

So this is good.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is great. Fortunately, he's a very kind, loving man who doesn't get mad at many things. But, yeah, he's a little. It's a little bit of an inappropriate podcast that I'm on, and we talk about poop a bit and other things. I'm so sorry.

[Fireball]

I've never told him what it's about. I just.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I told him six years ago. I was like, don't worry about it. Just don't listen.

[Jess]

I've also listened.

[Jolly]

She doesn't know.

[Fireball]

What do you mean? You. You told me you never did it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Hell, yeah.

[Jolly]

Last.

[Fireball]

When the gloves are off.

[Jolly]

It's called market research.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And you still proposed.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Aw, how much I love you. That's why it took him so long.

[Fireball]

I'm surprised it happened at all.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It was really hot and we pasta.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Well, fine.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We have another gift.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What do you mean, more gifts? Who's this one from?

[Zach Badger Davis]

This one's more of an in the present.

[Jabba]

Present.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What do you mean in the present? What does that mean? What's an in the present present?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Wrapping paper. Is it from you? This is from the Backpacker Radio team. Why don't you open it and figure it out?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Is that your way of saying it's from you?

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's a team effort.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did you get me a gift?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Open it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

They didn't buy. At least they didn't buy it. Is this from you?

[Zach Badger Davis]

You gonna open it?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did you get me a gift?

[Zach Badger Davis]

You gotta open it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did you get me a gift? Dad bought it.

[Fireball]

Did you buy me?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did you buy me a gift?

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's from the truck.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You need to say that. You bought me a gift.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I bought you a gift.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm not gonna open it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I bought you a gift.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You bought me a gift?

[Zach Badger Davis]

I bought you a gift.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, you guys heard it here first. You bought me a gift.

[Jabba]

First gift ever.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did you not hear how hard it was for him to even admit that he did it?

[Fireball]

Obviously.

[Jabba]

Last day ever. First gift ever.

[Fireball]

He could barely admit. Feels like a book.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's gonna be like Goodnight Moon or something. Did you wrap this?

[Jolly]

I did.

[Elise]

You wrapped it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You can tell by the excess of wrapping paper.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, it's really well wrapped.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Complaint unwrapping.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is like a Barnes and Noble employee wrapping something at Christmas. I don't mean to compliment you, but this is a really good wrapping job.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This is not a good on air moment.

[Fireball]

You made me a book.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Elise definitely put it together. This is a team effort.

[Fireball]

You paid Elise to make me a book? I didn't charge. That's so sweet.

[Elise]

It was Zach's idea.

[Fireball]

You didn't charge him full price. I didn't. Elite, what have we learned throughout this? Charge your rate, girl. We are women in power. What do you mean you're not doing a gift from me? Charge your rate anyway. I'm in love.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm in love. I'm in love. I'm sorry, sorry, I'm. I'm diverting.

[Fireball]

This is incredible. You went to the effort to make me a book. Stop.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Elise did most of the heavy lifting.

[Fireball]

How much?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, let me rephrase. How much did you do?

[Zach Badger Davis]

The photos, I think, are.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It was his idea.

[Elise]

He contributed photos.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, this is really.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Give me that, Give me that.

[Fireball]

No, this is really it. No, I'm not saying that to take away from you. This is really nice and sweet. Oh, my God, there's Harper as a puppy. Why would you put Harper as a puppy in there?

[Zach Badger Davis]

And she's not on fire, so.

[Fireball]

She's so small.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I did light her on fire.

[Fireball]

And you know what? Because it's the last podcast and I

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

don't give a fuck at this point, I'll tell you, it was kind of a lie. I wasn't, I wasn't.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Three lies and no sign.

[Fireball]

I wasn't lying. A candle.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I was lighting a bowl.

[Fireball]

And I don't admit any of that because I was for corporate America. So don't tell anyone to never make this a clip.

[Jabba]

The truth shall set you.

[Fireball]

I work for corporate America. I can't say these things

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

for you for later.

[Fireball]

Really nice. I'm sorry to make it all about me.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

This is bad radio. It is all about you, but it is bad radio.

[Zach Badger Davis]

This.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Really nice, though, Elise. Thank you so much for your efforts in this.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'm also not trying to.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm not allowed to tell anyone on air anymore that they deserve a raise because I might have said that too many times. But, you know, who deserves a raise?

[Garrett]

You know what?

[Fireball]

I actually have nothing. I, I. There's nothing.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You can't actually punish me right now because there I'm going to North Carolina.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Do it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Give Elise a raise.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, Elise should fire you.

[Fireball]

Fight me.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What are you going to do, fire me? You can't.

[Jabba]

I'm gone.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Here you go.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Give her a raise.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You now have show notes that you're responsible for.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, hold on.

[Zach Badger Davis]

These are mailbag submissions. I could read them, but they crack.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Todd AKA Jackson Storm. Bob, People's award winner. Love that. Love talking to them. And also thank you for all of Sah for being here and Zach for driving it like Zach of what? But Zach for driving from Vermont.

[Jabba]

That's.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

That's cool. What do you mean? Of what? I don't know.

[Fireball]

Elise, stop.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I see you. She's fucking cackling. Anyway, from Todd AKA Jackson Storm. Thank you, Chaunce. I really want the opportunity to thank Chaunce for the awesome job she's done with pbr. Just like with my poop and pee streaks, all good things must come to an end. I'm sad I can't prove my super fanhood by flying out to Colorado from Philly to be at the live send off. I mean, you could. Carl loves the hood. Flew in from Boston, but I'm still recovering financially from my lash. Honestly, that is really fair. I'm sorry for shitting on you five seconds prior.

[Fireball]

But who knows?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Maybe when I hike the Foothills Trail next spring, I'll reach out so you can sign my shirt. Or I could go with you. I live right there. You know, the one that will read you're just thru hiking question mark. Yeah, that's right. I'm getting it made. And as a fellow sport, industry, professional and coach, I wish Garrett the best of luck with his no good. To have a coach who cares about players is more important than most people realize. I tried to look at him. Why I said that. You got this dude. I envy him for finding someone who's all in on supporting him in his journey. Maybe if BPR brings back the back country matchmaking segment from COVID days, I could be featured and find someone who supports me too. Just saying.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Sounds like we need to Horny.

[Fireball]

Oh no. Horny, loving and kind of.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You're being really rude to the people that support us.

[Fireball]

I want to end this mailbag entry

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

with my favorite Sean's quote or memory, which would also be a great triple crown category. I'm worried my honorable mention Sean's is your get up for the guy stuff episode. Whoever replaces you better have the balls Dash er ovaries to go the extra mile like you did. Parentheses Tangent. Speaking of miles. What the heck? Are we finally going to get some mile by mile episodes. I know I. The problem is I enjoy the research so much that I get lost in the sauce and like, there's no sponsor or any commitment or any obligation to anyone because I intentionally haven't done that where it's just like fun for me at the moment. You'll get them at some point. You will get a mile by mile episodes at some point. But not. Not soon. I'm having fun anyway. It would be a perfect listen for my section hikes. If they're out in school, high time. Slide into my DMs. If you want to hire an apprentice in what Star wars, obviously let let me know in what. That's a curious thought. But as far as my personal favorite chance memory, it's when I got to meet you, Zach and Sass at Charlies 2025. I'm definitely a social person and was so pumped to meet the many hikers I consider mentors while there. But my Holly heroes to meet you guys. Oh my God, this keeps going. They always say never to meet your heroes so they can't disappoint you. Well, you are not my heroes. Sorry, guys, but I was hesitant. But I was hesitant to introduce myself to you guys at the Trex vendor tent because I didn't want to spoil the podcast that Spotify Wrapped has essentially confirmed as controlling my life. I was on this incredible high of meeting past and future BPR guests such as Oats, Reptar Sketch, Strach, Jolly Mills, Kelly and Nama Shot. I even met fellow listeners Tab and Black Cat, who saved my life with water as I choked on the peanut butter from the Trek's peanut butter eating contest. The three of us now have an unbreakable bond. Well, I finally made my way over to the green white tent with my copies of Appalachian Trials and Hiking From Home in my hand and butterflies in my stomach nervously asking if you guys wouldn't mind signing them. I felt like a kid again, waiting outside the player parking lot at Veterans Stadium for autographs from Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. Which one is who?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Chase Dudley.

[Jolly]

Who's the second baseman?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Jimmy Rollins was the shortstop.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But which one are we?

[Zach Badger Davis]

I'm probably Jimmy Rollins.

[Jolly]

We'll be honest.

[Garrett]

For sure.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm Chase. Yeah, I don't get it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

He's the shorter one.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Those Phillies heroes of mine never did sign my stuff. But you both did. And even. And you even chatted with me. Chance, you didn't have to do that. But how? With how busy you were? But you did. You didn't have to take a photo with me. But you did. Oh my God, stop. This is gonna be nice. And you didn't have to let a section hiker like me participate in a through hike or peanut butter eating contest or watermelon smashing contest, but you did. Then a year later, you guys read my mailbag entry and a five star review in the same episode, I became a Chuck Norris slash Bob Peoples award winner. You didn't have to do that, but you did. It's funny how deep I've gotten into the backpacking world in such a short time, even though it was my calling since I was 7. And I know I'm still controversial because I haven't yet made the leap from section hiker and last year to through hiker. It's not controversial at all. It's not controversial at all. Sorry. It's not controversial at all. But through this podcast, I've gotten to meet so many pieces of hiker trash who have encouraged me to keep going. So thank you, Chaunce. She's not even saying your name. She's talking directly to me. So thank you, Chance, for the incredibly significant part you've played in bringing me into this life changing community. I didn't have to write this, but I did. That's it for today's mailbag. Thank you so much for listening and happy hagging by and Jackson Storm. That was really nice. That was really nice. I don't want to seem like I'm skipping you guys by not crying. I just cried a lot before this happened in prep, and so I, I, I did my tear. You know, like, you know when you try to prep for something by, like doing it first? I cried a lot before this.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Tune into the previous episode where it's wet. It's a wet episode.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah, like when I, when I wasn't prepped, many tears. But like, I'm, I'm saying that because I'm not, I'm, I'm trying to say I don't, I don't not feel emotional about that. I think that was really kind and really nice and really sweet, but I'm not crying because I literally. You could have scarrett pre tiered about what, two minutes before the Uber came.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Jabba could drop you on your head and get the tears out if that's helpful.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Can you? Yeah. Okay, cool. What about, like, just knock out the sadness? Can we just black that part out?

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Yeah. What part of my head do you want to drop me on to make that happen? A doctor could tell us. They could be like, hey, if you Drop her on this side. She won't retain the past three to six months. Good. Good.

[Jolly]

Yeah.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Thank you for the mailbag.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You say that as if I did it wrong.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You did it great. I think you did a great job.

[Fireball]

Did I not do it well?

[Zach Badger Davis]

You did it perfectly well.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

The way you say that makes me think I didn't.

[Jabba]

John.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I know I did. But I'm just wondering because he says it in a tone. The tone he has is like.

[Fireball]

I know the tone.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

It's like a somewhat suspect tone. It's a somewhat suspect tone. I'm like, what do you mean? The words you're saying don't match the way you're saying it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Good luck to you, Garrett. Good luck to you in your new life.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, so no.

[Fireball]

So no comments. That means I'm right.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Dear Lord, Garrett, I'm sorry for.

[Jolly]

She's always right.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Sorry for recognizing your tone. Okay, what's next?

[Zach Badger Davis]

This one is actually. There's more for me. You have to read all these.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, great. I thought you were done more reading. Don't worry. I excelled in English from Patrick Brown.

[Fireball]

Hi. Hi.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Zack and Chaunce. I've been listening for about four years, but went back and have listened to almost every episode. Also, I think it's kind of fucked up to make me do tequila shots and then read anyway.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You want me to read?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No, it's okay. I can read. I just think it's a fucked up order of events. Even though I'm not a through hiker, I love listening to the stories. The rest of this is for Tron's.

[Garrett]

Oh my God.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Stop. I also keep trying to make this a touchdown. It is not. I'm originally from Danbury and grew up in the Putnam county border. Otwin my life. My wife and I moved from Connecticut to Apex. Ah, Gary Apex. He looks up. You looks up in 2020. You're going to love it there. The town is so great. Downtown is very cute and Scratch and Salem Street Pub are both very solid. I have a really funny story about that that should be told. Don't let me forget Garrett the ranch. We moved to the east side of Raleigh Anchor Lodge when we bought our house a few years ago but missed Apex. We moved here right as Covid kicked off, so we did lots of day trips around the area. There is always a new place to explore, a thing to do. The museums in Raleigh are great as well. In both greenways and state parks and educational forests. I also recommend a trip to Saks of Paha to grab lunch at the general store. Then Walk around the island. Dogs are welcome there. We don't get out as much with our kids 1 and 3 as we used to, but there always seems to be something to do. Subscribe to things to do 919 and you'll get a list of the events and festivities going on every week. Each Friday. I heard you mention getting work done on your house. I am a commercial general contractor. Are you really? But can recommend residential contractors if you need other work done to the house. I hope you and Garrett love it here. Congratulations to him on the coaching job. Congrats, Kara, on the coaching job. They didn't sign off in any manner. This is still not a touchscreen from Patrick Brown. Do we have Patrick Brown's contact info?

[Zach Badger Davis]

Rachel does.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm sure he's a general contractor.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Rachel.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I have been paying thousands of dollars to general contractors. If I can pay thousands of dollars to a Backpacker radio listener, be ruined if it didn't, that would be where I would rather put my money. Patrick Brown, if you're listening to this and I have not yet contacted you. J U L I A N A C H A U N C E Y Mail dot com. Message me. I have so much shit that I need to get done on my house. And like, I do really love my handyman. He's a great guy. He's done a lot of for free that he really shouldn't have. But if you're a listener, like, my God, do I want my money to go in your pocket? Please take my money. Message me. That's my email.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Are there more before I take it away?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, I'll keep scrolling. I didn't know I should. No, it says segments. We're doing segments, but it says segments. So that means I'm done.

[Jabba]

You're done.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, good. I don't know. Well, thanks everyone for staying in your seats and listening to all this. I'm sorry. We have some like, admin in between where we try to get on the same page.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah, we're gonna put a bow on this so we can drink some beers and hang out. The last one I'm gonna end with is the five star review. This is from Chill Hiker. I don't know how I'm gonna be able to listen without chaunce. Four crying emojis and the subject is like four almost gonna cry emojis. So he went from almost gonna cry to losing it mid comment. Thank you to today's title sponsor, that's Element. You guys, we've got. We're gonna actually ch.

[Jabba]

This is your job.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Open the box and start throwing them at the people.

[Fireball]

Oh, okay.

[Zach Badger Davis]

It's gonna be.

[Fireball]

You know what?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I'm not gonna open the box. Who really needs electrolytes? I can't pick you cuz you're Elise's husband and it feels biased.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Wait, hey, wait, Chance. We have three other boxes that are part of the raffle, so they'll get more.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, we're gonna.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Everyone gets them.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Oh, you want me to. Okay, fine. I was just gonna chuck it at one.

[Zach Badger Davis]

No, no, I want you to go full Gallagher right now and just spray

[Jolly]

watermelon on the people.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I really thought whoever asked the kindest was gonna get all.

[Zach Badger Davis]

They'll get some element, no worries about that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I don't have any nails right now because I just bit all my fingers off.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Element's the best. Especially important tonight. We've been drinking. If you've been drinking, please grab a

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

monkeys and dive into the middle aisle.

[Fireball]

Pick it up, you swine. Go on, get it. It's on the floor.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Get it off the floor.

[Fireball]

You want it bad enough.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I know you get them in the bed.

[Fireball]

There, there. I can't. What is that? That's a. Oh, that's my book.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

I love this book.

[Zach Badger Davis]

There's more element available through the wrapper.

[Fireball]

I've never been an athlete.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You can also go.

[Fireball]

I've never been an athlete.

[Zach Badger Davis]

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[Fireball]

Carl Lobsterhood.

[Jolly]

Yeah, there he is.

[Fireball]

Please stand up. Stand up. Carl Lobsterhood.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Yeah.

[Fireball]

The man. Hold on. Watch. We're pausing right here because I don't

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

have anything to lose.

[Fireball]

Raise your hand if you know the

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

difference between a bisque and a chowder.

[Fireball]

One, two, three. Okay, so it sounds like we have

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

some room for improvement.

[Fireball]

Thank you to Carl Lobsahood.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If anyone listen.

[Jolly]

Sorry,

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

excuse, sir.

[Zach Badger Davis]

We're getting a. It's a nine.

[Fireball]

I don't even know you hook that.

[Jolly]

Just you got.

[Fireball]

Okay.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If anyone listens to the episode where I was really fucking bummed out because I got a bisque and I thought I was gonna have a nice lobster chowder and it didn't work out and it was just like a fucking smoothie. Thank God for curl Lobsterhood. It's not. If Everyone here who did not know which is 90% of you. A bisque is a puree. They blend it. They blend it. It is going to be a smoothie. You are having a lobster smoothie. That's gross. A chowder. A chowder has the clumps. So if you see anything on a menu that says a bisque, don't get it. Unless you want a seafood smoothie, in which case you might be a serial killer. I didn't know this until Carl Lobsahood messaged us and he was like, hey, I think I can. I think I can clarify the pan Pam dilemma. And he did. And it was amazing. And now I know the difference. So thank you, Carl. And also thank you for flying from Boston. That was incredible. And also I hope it was worth was not.

[Fireball]

I can't.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

In my mind. I truly hope you get come to me after. I will buy you a drink. I hope you get the bang for your buck.

[Fireball]

Christopher.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Same with you, Zach. Don't think I don't forget where you drove from.

[Jolly]

Not me.

[Zach Badger Davis]

For the listeners.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

What do you mean not you? You're not gonna treat him?

[Zach Badger Davis]

No. You said thank you, Zach.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Zach, I don't know if you know this, but that's also mine.

[Zach Badger Davis]

I understand that, but you're pointing.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Is that Vermont?

[Zach Badger Davis]

No.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Did I point at you?

[Zach Badger Davis]

The listener doesn't know. I'm trying to help.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay. To the listener. I will not be buying Zach a drink.

[Jabba]

No.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Never works that way.

[Fireball]

Christopher Marshall.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

No intent.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Clint Sitler, Coach for Marion Outdoors. Eric Casper, the Friendly Ghost. Eric Hoffman. Ethan Harwell.

[Jabba]

Done.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Jillian Daniels. Greg Knight. Greg Martin.

[Narrator/Host]

Griffin Hayward.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Bring me Bear. Haley Buckingham Palace. Jackson Storm. Jared not from Subway. Jason Kaiser. Jason, Zach is the little donkey girl. Snailer. Luke Netcha as Maddie in Arizona. Patrick C in C. Randy Sutherland. Rebecca Braveheart. Rural D. Sawyer products. The St. Louis Shaman. Timothy Hahn.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Hello.

[Jolly]

Puns.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Thanks to Paulie for that amazing mashup that he put together. Paulie is our guy.

[Fireball]

Paulie, can you please email it to me? I would love to make that my ringtone. Like, do you remember when you were

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

in eighth grade and you could set like a 62nd sound to be a ringtone? That's my ringtone. I need it. I need it. I needed it.

[Zach Badger Davis]

If you guys want to support Polly, go to old man Murph's Coffee Roasters. Omm, Snap, CR dot com. He's the guy.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And if you're like me where I don't drink coffee. Buy it for your parents for Christmas. Buy it for your parents for Christmas, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Christmas. Everyone loves coffee.

[Fireball]

Buy it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Buy it from Paulie because he's amazing.

[Fireball]

Give me everything I need water. Oh, seriously guys. Okay, fine. You know what? I have nothing to lose here, cuz I'm leaving.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

So you know what? You have to listen to me anyway. And if you don't want to, then whatever. I'm not on the line. Paulie has edited our videos and our episodes for nine years. Nine years.

[Fireball]

Since it was nothing, since it was

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

stupid, since it was basement shit. He has continued to do it and do it and do it and he has found those always sunny clips at the end every single time. He has never got bored of it. He has never stopped. He has done it every time. So God forbid you forget what to get your mother in law for Christmas. Buy her a bag of his coffee. What is it? Ommcr.com Bingo.

[Fireball]

It's in the back of my mind because I love that guy.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

If you have no idea what to get a distant relative and you're like, I don't actually know you at all, but I got to get you a gift. Or if you actually like coffee. I don't. But if you do buy that shit, it's. It's a wonderful man who has done wonderful things. And if we didn't have him at this podcast, I guarantee you wouldn't be listening into right now. Cuz we couldn't do it. So if you ever need coffee, buy it from him.

[Zach Badger Davis]

You can follow us on social at Backpacker Radio and Instagram. Tik tok@back po backpacker pod. We don't do X anymore. Threads. Facebook.com backpacker radio, you can follow Tron.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

You can find me on Instagram at Juliana Chauncey. I'm kind of bored of it at this point. My main focus is my Garrett account on T Tik Tok, which is. Which is at Garrettes. Mind you, it's not all him eating. It's me wrapping his legos. It's him doing stupid. It's basically just like my ode to my husband in terms of like, what do I wish people could just see? Because this is ridiculous and social media has not always been kind, but this is fun. And so that's where I am right now. And like if you want to watch my hikes, you can go to Juliana Chansian YouTube. They're there. They're not fully done. I lost motivation. But they'll be there eventually. But really go to Garrity's because I don't know how long it Will be there. But while it's there, it is just my way to fuck with my husband. And it's really fun. And maybe that's a little lackadaisical, but that is how it should be. Because if you can't find me, then good. I hope I fade into the mist. I hope I join a suburban life and I become a slow spirited person that just exists and is in the suburbs and doesn't have a care in the world. And I am very much looking forward to it.

[Fireball]

Hey, to fading into the mist. We are at a bar.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

And if not one person is about to raise a glass class, I am highly suspicious of why we are here. Thank you. And everyone.

[Fireball]

And everyone takes a sip. To fading in the mist.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Okay, fine.

[Fireball]

To that.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

But to fading in the mist. Hey, cheers, Jabba. Thanks. Don't think I don't know you screamed that. Okay, you can take the reins back.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Subscribe and follow us on Apple, podcast, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow us on YouTube. I think we lost some of the video, but I think we should be good for most of it.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

They should be used to that by now. Yeah, we had like an hour and a half. That was just someone's cat because we forgot the video.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Not even our worst moment. We've done way worse than that.

[Fireball]

Someone said what?

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Like, they didn't know. Yeah, we forgot to. Well, we ran out of battery and we didn't know what to do, so we just put a picture of someone's cat for like an hour and a half.

[Fireball]

All of you are laughing because you

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

no follow us on YouTube and you've never watched, like, okay, tell me it's the first time you've heard this. How about you on your phone and you subscribe on YouTube? Doesn't affect me, though. I'm gone.

[Zach Badger Davis]

And that is it for today's podcast.

[Fireball]

Happy hiking.

[Zach Badger Davis]

Thank you for listening and happy hiking.

[Garrett]

Bye.

[Fireball]

This is.

[Narrator/Host]

Dude, no one's mourning me properly.

[Fireball]

What are you talking about, man?

[Narrator/Host]

Your mom's sitting right there, dude.

[Zach Badger Davis]

She's mourning you.

[Jabba]

Yeah, she watched an entire episode of Mama's Family and fell asleep.

[Jolly]

Yeah, and now I'm gonna give him the one gun salute.

[Fireball]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not. Okay. All right, I got it. Oh, wow.

[Garrett]

That was great and very touching.

[Elise]

Thanks so much for coming, both of you.

[Juliana Chauncey (Chaunce)]

Time to go.

[Fireball]

See you at the next one. I've been out walking slow Many miles I've yet to go Never been one that's had to choose but every time I do, I find I lose I guess I'm a loser Stomping ground A welcome man for the loving crowd I wish that you knew.