In this episode of Bad Boss Confessional, Beth Fahey is joined by EOS Implementer and Rollout co-author Marisa Smith for a different kind of confession. Together, they unpack the leadership mistakes that inspired the book in the first place. Both Beth and Marisa share what it was like to implement EOS in their own companies and realize that simply using the tools was not the same as rolling them out effectively.
Marisa reflects on moving too fast, skipping context, and assuming her team would automatically understand what she understood. Transparency without education created confusion, not clarity. EOS worked best only after slowing down, following the process, and aligning the leadership team before expecting the rest of the organization to follow.
The lesson is clear. Great leadership is not about speed or certainty. It is about humility, repetition, and teaching others how to think, not just what to do. Rollout is not an event. It is a discipline that turns vision into shared ownership across the organization.
Learn more about "Rollout" here!: https://www.rolloutbook.com/

Timestamps
00:00 – Intro and book preview
00:29 – Why this podcast exists
02:05 – Writing the book together
03:09 – Marisa’s early business days
04:48 – Breaking EOS on rollout
06:35 – Learning to slow down
08:52 – The rollout roadmap
10:08 – Client success lessons
14:07 – Mid managers matter
16:18 – From student to teacher

About:
Beth Fahey is a leadership coach, Expert EOS Implementer, and co-creator of the How to Be a Great Boss Workshops. With nearly 40 years of hands-on leadership experience, Beth has worn many hats: from working in film and owning a bakery to leading a national trade association.

Now, as the host of The Bad Boss Confessional, she shares candid stories about the challenges of leadership, mistakes made, lessons learned, and the path to becoming the kind of boss your team actually wants to follow. Through humor, honesty, and heart, Beth is on a mission to help leaders grow, one confession at a time.

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