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Bert Kreischer
You two are bad friends. Who are these two idiots?
Louis C.K.
White dude and an Asian dude. You two are disgusting.
Bert Kreischer
You two or something.
Louis C.K.
We're bad friends.
Bobby Lee
How about you? Do you go to car therapy, Carlos?
Carlos
Weekly.
Bobby Lee
You do? Yeah.
Carlos
Yeah, for seven years.
Bobby Lee
Oh, wow. Yeah. What did your therapist say? He must have had, like, notepad, you know, one of those scientists. You know, those. Yeah, like FBI, CIA, you know, I mean, boards. Yeah, yeah.
Carlos
No, it's a hot girl, and she gives me molly.
Bobby Lee
What's not a therapist. It's a stripper you're seeing.
Carlos
This is a sticker for my. Where I Go.
Bert Kreischer
Fantastic Therapy. What is it called? California. What?
Carlos
Center for Psychedelic Therapy.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, my God.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Carlos
It's great.
Bert Kreischer
That's so embarrassing. So, what, you did Austin, then you did Vegas?
Carlos
Yeah, yeah, I went to a game in Austin, hung my family, then Vegas.
Bobby Lee
For a wedding in Austin. What else did you do there? You're not giving us the details.
Bert Kreischer
I know there's something.
Bobby Lee
There's things going on in your life, and we want to know.
Carlos
Well, I did. I did match with a girl recently.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Carlos
And it was the girl that we brought on stage in Houston.
Bobby Lee
Ooh, I don't remember her. I don't remember.
Carlos
She's kind of Asian.
Bobby Lee
Ah.
Carlos
And, like. Yeah, but, like, it's, like, 80% white, 20% Asian, so.
Bobby Lee
Oh, that's a good. That's a good mix. That's a good mix.
Bert Kreischer
80 white, 20. So a little Asian.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
What does it show?
Carlos
Just so the eyes are not completely there. You know, there's an angle to them.
Bobby Lee
Right?
Louis C.K.
Like shark. Like a shark.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Carlos
Like when the eyes were being developed in the wound. The Asian.
Bert Kreischer
You say in the wound?
Louis C.K.
Womb.
Bert Kreischer
It's womb.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Carlos for years, thought it was the wound. It's inside your wound. Yeah, that's a vagina, Carlos. It's a wound. I've heard it goes inside your wound. But you.
Bobby Lee
She.
Carlos
You follow her, Bobby.
Bobby Lee
I do.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
It's Marissa Tomei. Oh, no, I. No, no, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And did you. Did you link up?
Bert Kreischer
Bring her up on the thing so I can see what she looks like?
Carlos
Pull up her name, her last name. No, she ghosted me and.
Bobby Lee
Exactly.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Carlos
No, but she followed me on Instagram, so we're doing okay.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Bert Kreischer
You're getting ghosted a lot lately. What's going on?
Carlos
Yeah, it's all numbers game.
Bobby Lee
Yes, I remember. At the show. Yeah, I now remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
He's cute. Yeah, she's cut so she ghosted you?
Carlos
She ghosted me. But then I think she responded because it was easy because I was already back in L. A.
Bert Kreischer
Like, oh, she waited to knew you till she knew she were gone.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Smart. Smart girl.
Carlos
It is smart.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Carlos
So I'm going to try and trap her into a date in Austin.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I think we should move to the Midwest.
Bert Kreischer
Where do you want to go?
Bobby Lee
It's a. It's a better dating pool.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, it is, for sure. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Every date I go on here is. It's like, you want to listen to my ep? No, it's not good.
Carlos
It's not good.
Bobby Lee
It's never good.
Carlos
They don't say EP anymore.
Bobby Lee
Whatever. Yeah, but do you want to. You want to see my paintings? It's never good.
Bert Kreischer
What do they say if they don't say ep? What do you mean?
Bobby Lee
They say, yeah, ep.
Carlos
This would be like, go to my, like, SoundCloud or whatever.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
It wouldn't be like, here's like, a record.
Bert Kreischer
Well, I bet you some of the east side girls probably are like, yeah, the east side.
Bobby Lee
They press it.
Carlos
Dude. I didn't know they were pressing.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. Eagle Rock girls. Come on, dude.
Bert Kreischer
They'd be pressing.
Bobby Lee
They'd be pressing.
Bert Kreischer
They absolutely be pressing.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. I mean, that's. Okay. So that's the prototype of, I think, who. What I want to marry.
Carlos
Oh, you mean really hot.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, hot.
Carlos
Really hot. Notice nothing about your past.
Bert Kreischer
This has always been the mix. Asian thing is your key. That's your key demo.
Bobby Lee
I've dated, you've seen, you've met.
Bert Kreischer
I know.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
That's what you love the most.
Bobby Lee
It's. I love it. Yeah. Because Kalila was mixed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Other girls were mixed.
Bobby Lee
Other girls that mix. You know, I dated some mixies. Yeah.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Because full is a lot. It's too much.
Bert Kreischer
Well, it's heavy.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
What do you mean it's heavy? Because if you go meet parents and they're both whites.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
That's a lot of defense you got to play. I know, but if one of them is part of your lineage in any way.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
If you got, like, the Asian dad, you're like, how you doing?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
You know, like, at least you got a little in. But if it's two whites, that's a lot of danger.
Bobby Lee
Also, there's bullying going on. Because, like, I remember when I was dating Sarah Hyland, she. She. She was from Louisville, Kentucky, our favorite. And we went one dinner. One dinner. I came to the dinner, family dinner. Everyone was wearing kimonos well, that's respect. They were.
Bert Kreischer
That's respectful.
Bobby Lee
And then they had a tight hello Kitty shirt for me, so I put it on. It was really. Everyone laughed.
Bert Kreischer
That's cute.
Bobby Lee
It is cute, right? But it's like. It would have been nice if there was another Asian there.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, you're the only one.
Bobby Lee
I was the only one. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
They should have brought another one in.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Just hire one just to be there.
Bobby Lee
And when the grandmother. Her grandmother didn't really like me that much.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
But I did a little Asian thing. I have Asian techniques for them to like me. I went to the grand piano and I started playing because I knew she was in the living room. And then I can see her starting to like me.
Bert Kreischer
Right.
Bobby Lee
You got to bring it. You either do that or do your taekwondo or something. You have to tell them you have Asian skills.
Louis C.K.
Right?
Carlos
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Get your abacus out of your car.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Wait till you see.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Dude, I was at the wedding last night, my good buddy. What a fun, little beautiful wedding.
Bobby Lee
Ask you. Can I ask you what skaters were there?
Bert Kreischer
Yes. No, it was, of course those skaters. Because Sean is a phenomenal skater. Eric Coston's one of his closest friends. Frosty. He's always around. He's a good dude.
Bobby Lee
Are you?
Carlos
Nice.
Bobby Lee
Because I have an Eric Coston story.
Bert Kreischer
We know each other. I know Costa. I played golf with him a few times.
Bobby Lee
Oh, you have.
Bert Kreischer
Okay. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Why?
Bert Kreischer
You don't like Eric?
Bobby Lee
Long, long time ago, I went to a skate party.
Bert Kreischer
Ruh row.
Bobby Lee
Ruh row. What did you do wrong? Wrong?
Bert Kreischer
What did you do?
Bobby Lee
Nothing. And I met someone, tried to introduce me to him, and he was really cold to you. To me. And I remember walking away from that, going, I hate that guy.
Bert Kreischer
It's one of the best.
Bobby Lee
But back then, I. I don't know, maybe it was because I'm. I. I'm a weird guy.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, you are very weird.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I, you know, I come. I come to parties, you know, shifty, you know?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, a little shifty.
Bobby Lee
I'm a shifty little guy. You know what I mean? But I remember coming out of the.
Carlos
What, it's very urban, like, crackheady.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. I was like, what's that, man?
Bert Kreischer
Right?
Bobby Lee
Very skate style.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. That is crack. That's crack.
Bobby Lee
Nollie, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Switch, switch, switch, switch.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. Laser flips, dude. You love them.
Bert Kreischer
Hard flip, dog.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, I think maybe it was my shifty vibe.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
But, you know, sometimes you meet somebody and, you know, you don't know what people are going through.
Bert Kreischer
Right. You don't know what he's.
Bobby Lee
You don't know. But I always take it personally. And I walk away from them going, I need revenge. Yeah. May I write down what I'm gonna do?
Carlos
Because you want to be worshiped.
Bert Kreischer
That's right. Praise, worship. That's what the boy needs. And that's.
Bobby Lee
No, no. I want to be treated like a human being, dude.
Bert Kreischer
Not true.
Bobby Lee
I want to be acknowledged as a human being, like a normal celebrity. No, no, what I'm saying is, is that. Oh. Oh, that hurt.
Bert Kreischer
Gearing them up.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, you got me geared up, dad.
Bert Kreischer
You're gearing them up, dude.
Carlos
Yeah, I know. That's why you want to go to the Midwest, too. Less competition with celebrities.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, he's getting geared.
Carlos
That's what I. I think that too, though. I. I know what you're thinking.
Bert Kreischer
Gearing up the bobo.
Bobby Lee
I'm on Raya, right?
Bert Kreischer
Yup.
Bobby Lee
And a girl's on Riot. Bradley Cooper, Bobby Lee. Which one, Carlos, are you. Oh, yeah. You're on there, too.
Carlos
Exactly.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I gotta say, I think, Bradley, just honest.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I think probably honest guess.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, honest. No. Yeah. There was a bunch of cool skaters there.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Just guys that, like, I grew up, like, loving from when I was. It's just such a weird.
Bobby Lee
It's awesome.
Bert Kreischer
It's a weird thing to be friends with guys that you're like.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
You know, and we. It was an awesome wedding. It was beautiful. Everyone was so rad and nice because, you know, like, we don't. I don't know. I don't know his family that well. Yeah. So it was really.
Bobby Lee
What's the mix of the family?
Bert Kreischer
What do you mean?
Bobby Lee
What is he.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, interesting.
Bobby Lee
Filipino.
Bert Kreischer
I don't know. I'm not going to tell you.
Bobby Lee
Oh, yeah. There's some mix, though.
Bert Kreischer
There is mix?
Bobby Lee
Yeah. A brown.
Bert Kreischer
He's not a fully.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, there's a brownie. There's some brown in there.
Carlos
No.
Bobby Lee
What. What are you. What are you being so mysterious about?
Bert Kreischer
I don't know.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, there's a mix.
Bobby Lee
There's a mix.
Bert Kreischer
There's a mixed family. Yeah, it was rad, though. And everyone was super cool to us and very nice, and it was a beautiful wedding venue. It's one of those moments where you're like. And you know what's so funny about skater weddings is that, you know, no matter what you. You wear, you're good because everyone's wearing cool shit. Like there. There isn't this weird expectation for like anybody to. To like go out of their way to be like, I got to make sure it's like. No, they just want you to look cool, be casual and have a little bit of. Have a little bit of.
Bobby Lee
Let me say something. If I have a wedding dress up.
Bert Kreischer
No, no, they did. You know, I'm saying this incorrectly.
Bobby Lee
I understand. Let me guess.
Bert Kreischer
What I'm trying to say is like the vibe was very like, no tuxedos. It was like cool clothes.
Bobby Lee
It was like how Ron Howard dresses, right? No, like when he's drinking. Like a suit but a T shirt and a ball cap. Ron Howard style.
Bert Kreischer
It was like skaters, they all have great style. So it was just like cool. Like this one dude had a super wild green suit on. It looked so sick.
Bobby Lee
Oh.
Bert Kreischer
Like some dudes had just the dopest gear. I was like. And. And also wearing vans, like rocking vans.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. They dress so good.
Bert Kreischer
They just have good. Skaters have the best style, dude.
Carlos
They do.
Bert Kreischer
They just have like this vibe of like, they pull it off. It's. It looks well to do and then still casual as fuck, but it's still dressy.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Like this dude, this dude Cole from Metalwood, he had this just dope ass purple suit on. And I was like this motherfucker.
Bobby Lee
It was so, like dumb and dumber.
Louis C.K.
Exactly.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Just look so fly. I wore a traditional black suit, so I just. That's all I wear to weddings. Yeah, I only wear.
Bobby Lee
You look good just black.
Bert Kreischer
Well, because look at this. I can't. What color are you going to? Malta was like, colors are option. What color do you want to do, dude, you like a bright color. And I was like, it's going to be black, but I can't wear it. Look at this.
Bobby Lee
I have to go to Jimmy Out. You know that. That Is suits for 5 foot 4 or less on Ventura. I have to go there now. And whenever I'm there, they're like, yeah, Seth. Seth Green just came in. Like all the smaller actors.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
I mean, Brad Williams just picked up three suits.
Bert Kreischer
Tom Cruise.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See what it's called.
Bert Kreischer
It's Joe Pesci, Patrick. Elijah Wood, Tom Cruise, Kevin Hart. Brother, you're Michael J. Fox. You are in good. You're in good company.
Bobby Lee
They all go to that. Jimmy Ow's place.
Bert Kreischer
Jimmy Ow's short. What's it called?
Bobby Lee
See what. What that place is called. Because I love the guy because he's always there.
Bert Kreischer
What is it Big and tall? Is it small and short? Jimmy Ow Small and shorts. Dave Franco A lot of guys that are under five, eight.
Louis C.K.
No.
Bobby Lee
How about suits five foot four or less? Sherman Oaks.
Bert Kreischer
So funny. No tailoring needed.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Hello. Hello, Hello, Hello. Hello. Uncle Louie, Lou brought you five cheeseburgers. Are you being real?
Louis C.K.
I brought you five.
Bobby Lee
Thank you.
Bert Kreischer
Wow.
Bobby Lee
Did you really go to Bob's big one?
Louis C.K.
Wow.
Bert Kreischer
Let him sit in that blue chair. Louie.
Bobby Lee
Louie.
Bert Kreischer
Wow, Louie. This is. This is extravagant.
Louis C.K.
So I kind of a up because I wanted a cheeseburger.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. So you brought five of them.
Louis C.K.
That's it?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
No, I was, I. I was looking for, I don't know, like an in and out or something. Yeah, I was kind of in a hurry and I needed. Because I need to eat before a certain hour. I wake up in a. In a cold sweat if I eat too late.
Bert Kreischer
So did you eat?
Louis C.K.
So. So I went into Bob's. I was like, oh, this is like a family burger. Like, cool, right? So I go in and I said. And I pictured coming here with a bag of paper bag full of burgers.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And just going, here, everybody have some burgers. And I sat down and I ate Bob's big burger and it was really disgusting. And I got a vanilla shake, but I had a paper straw so I couldn't drink it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, that's.
Louis C.K.
And they gave me the burgers in this horrible. I thought I wanted it to be like an old fashioned. Like cops.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Is it as bad as I was?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, they're bad.
Louis C.K.
Louie.
Bobby Lee
Can I eat it later once you leave? Can I eat it once you leave?
Louis C.K.
The whole thing was a mistake. He has three over there.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
No, no, he will eat those.
Bobby Lee
I'm on Ozempic.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, that's right.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, I like that. Being Ozempic on Ozempic is like being kosher or something.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, it is. I mean, he did throw up for the first, like two weeks. He was on it.
Bobby Lee
It was tough. No, I had to switch from Ozempic to Wegovy.
Bert Kreischer
We're on Wegovy.
Bobby Lee
How about we go by now?
Bert Kreischer
You don't do that. You would never never.
Louis C.K.
That. Yeah, I don't know. I would if it was a good idea, but it's not a good idea. It's terrible. I think it's that you're gonna die from that.
Bobby Lee
You think? You really do.
Louis C.K.
No, I don't. Of course. No, I. I don't. I don't. Like, I get nervous about things like that going. And, you know, that change how you feel or that change you neurologically.
Bobby Lee
Oh, neurologically.
Louis C.K.
And also I like the fight I'm in with weight and stuff.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Like, it. It's something to lean against, you know?
Bobby Lee
I think you lost weight. No.
Louis C.K.
Oh, thank you, dude.
Bert Kreischer
He was doing that, you know, he's setting us up. That's all he wanted to say.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
You look so slender.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Me?
Louis C.K.
Well, I've been working out and eating more.
Bobby Lee
Oh, that's good.
Bert Kreischer
Good.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Eating. When you do.
Louis C.K.
When you separate, you start working out more and eating less. You're really hurting yourself. So I'm just going, like, more exercise.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
So let's lay it on.
Bobby Lee
What's.
Bert Kreischer
What's the one exercise that you actually enjoy? Because none of them are that enjoyable.
Louis C.K.
I kind of like the way it all feels.
Carlos
You do?
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I don't know. I can't get through it lately. I guess maybe it's also the. If the depression exercise is like, I'm doing it because I know I need to do it.
Carlos
Oh, yeah.
Louis C.K.
No, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Because I want to do it. 42.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. I mean, it sure starts changing. I'm 58. Starts changing.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
What happens?
Louis C.K.
Feeling different? I mean, you just sort of, like, get philosophical about it and you go like, I like the way it feels when my body heats up because I'm going on, like, uphill treadmill or whatever. I'm StairMaster, and if I don't want to do it, I just don't do. I do it if I don't want to.
Bert Kreischer
See, I do that all the time.
Louis C.K.
And I'm starting to eat whatever I want. And what do we. What do you mean?
Bobby Lee
Matter.
Louis C.K.
Just eat it. Because somebody is explaining this to me that if you prohibit. You're in this constant tension that you then have to binge to release. But if you just go, like, whatever I want, I'm going to eat it when I want it. What happens is your body goes like, that hurt. That actually hurt. That was not a good idea. And then that memory makes you go, oh, yeah. I don't want that to happen this time. I want less things than I used to. You know what I mean?
Bert Kreischer
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Lee
You get hunger pains at night.
Louis C.K.
No, you don't.
Bobby Lee
You wait.
Bert Kreischer
He's still thinking about the old world.
Bobby Lee
What I'm saying is, is that late at night, sometimes I'm like, should I get a sandwich?
Bert Kreischer
No. Well, here's the difference. You're not explaining. He stays up all night. So he'll be up at four or five and he. It's now been seven hours.
Louis C.K.
It's important to me to go to sleep and stay asleep. So If I. If I eat too close to bedtime.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I wake up in the. At like three in the morning in a sweat.
Bobby Lee
Oh.
Louis C.K.
Body's trying to digest.
Bobby Lee
You think it's a white thing. Excuse me for saying.
Louis C.K.
Well, white versus you. You mean white in a way that you're not.
Bobby Lee
I think our bodies are different.
Bert Kreischer
That's all they are. That's true. Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. But you stay up all night.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I do, but.
Louis C.K.
Because, you know, I am an Asian thing or.
Bobby Lee
I think it's an Asian thing.
Louis C.K.
Are you Korean?
Bert Kreischer
Whoa.
Louis C.K.
I don't know anything.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. That's a good guess.
Carlos
Thank you.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Because when white people guess, they never get it right.
Louis C.K.
You could be Chinese. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Could I be?
Louis C.K.
I almost said you could have Chinese.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. You'd have China, but that was a really good guess.
Bert Kreischer
Korean.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, it's like four. I mean, what's.
Bobby Lee
No, there's a bunch. Cambodia.
Louis C.K.
I know, I know.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
On purpose.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. That was really good.
Louis C.K.
You have a gong. So it's fair to talk about this.
Bert Kreischer
That's right.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Right? You have a gong. Fortune cat.
Bobby Lee
We're a fortune cat.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
His father made this before he died. That's why we. This is an homage to his father.
Louis C.K.
Really?
Carlos
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
No, but.
Louis C.K.
But did he make it as a weapon or.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, we think about it every time we. When we. This is when we remind.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
He feels his father.
Bobby Lee
Stop doing that.
Bert Kreischer
Sorry.
Bobby Lee
It's fucking weird.
Bert Kreischer
If you wanted a good burger, you should have text us. We would have told you where to go, because that's not. That's not what.
Louis C.K.
I really regret it.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, that sucks. There's so many good burgers, too.
Bobby Lee
You single right now, Louie?
Louis C.K.
No.
Bobby Lee
Oh, you're seeing somebody.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, with somebody very much.
Bobby Lee
Oh, very good.
Louis C.K.
Very in love with.
Bobby Lee
Oh, that's great.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. Somebody I want to be with.
Bert Kreischer
Wow. He's looking for love.
Bobby Lee
No, what I'm saying is that I was curious. This has. Does Louis ever date Asians? Have you ever dated an Asian in your life?
Carlos
Yes.
Bobby Lee
Oh, good. Yeah, Very good, Very good.
Louis C.K.
Dated a Korean woman for a little while. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
And what did you. What, what was that experience? Because I've been dating a Korean woman for six years now.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
Oh, yeah. And so you are Korean.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why you got it, right.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, yeah, I thought.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. Very good. Yeah. Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Well, one thing, because she told me, the woman I I dated told me. She, I. I asked her, what's your last name? And she was like, I mean, Guess you're. Go get it in. Two guesses.
Bobby Lee
All right.
Louis C.K.
Cuz it's like Lee or Park.
Bert Kreischer
True.
Louis C.K.
Like it's only one of those.
Bobby Lee
There's some chose.
Louis C.K.
Chose.
Bobby Lee
There's some ch. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
He's envious of a couple chose. That's why. But what was it like?
Louis C.K.
So she was. I really liked her very much. She was cool and she was. She had an interesting. She was a different. She talked about being Korean without my asking her. You know, it was part of her. She said that it was. There wasn't many in my. Also she was Korean of my generation. There was nobody. She was like in a desert of Koreans in her. Raised in New Jersey. And she said that she had like two friends and they are still very close because they felt very isolated. Yeah. There wasn't many people from their culture same. But she told me interesting things like that when Korean people say hello, they say, when have you eaten? Or like, they say, have you eaten?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, that's.
Louis C.K.
That's their. How you doing?
Bert Kreischer
What is that? What's it would. Your mom says that when we see her.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Are you hungry?
Bert Kreischer
Are you hungry? Yeah.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
His mom does.
Bobby Lee
And then pebble is. I'm hungry. I'm. I'm. I'm full.
Bert Kreischer
I'm full.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. And I know go to which is penis.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Bobby Lee
Donkomok, which is butthole. Yeah. Jut, which is tit. Boji. Pussy. That's. I think that's all I know. Plural.
Louis C.K.
For tit.
Bobby Lee
You can only say bogies, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
It's like Teddy. Teddy.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
Y.
Bobby Lee
And then here's another thing I. I learned juk juke.
Bert Kreischer
No.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, no, let me finish. What?
Bert Kreischer
Go, go, go.
Bobby Lee
You know what juk jook is?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. Isn't that jizz?
Bobby Lee
No, no.
Louis C.K.
Jukjuk isn't jizz trying to start a Korean car.
Bobby Lee
Juk juke is slang for sex. So I asked a Korean guy. I go, I've never, like, what? Why? Juk joke. He goes, that's what sex sound like.
Louis C.K.
Lots of farts. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
I guess they're queefing a lot over there. You know what I mean? But yeah, they are. Yeah. I've never heard juk jook when I'm having sex.
Louis C.K.
No. Well, I always hear a Korean guy in the room.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Sitting in the chair.
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Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
So you're in love for that?
Louis C.K.
Yes.
Bobby Lee
That's great.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, she's great. She's awesome. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Is there limerence involved?
Louis C.K.
No, I don't think so.
Bobby Lee
Oh.
Louis C.K.
I mean, both of us are single.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Yeah. But is there, is there one person more like, you know, I mean, obsessed with the other person?
Louis C.K.
No, I think we feel, we feel pretty equal and it's nice, you know, Like I, I heard somebody talking once about, like, you know, I don't want to be the kind of guy who picks girls up at the airport like that. I heard that said as bad thing picking them up at the airport.
Bert Kreischer
Right.
Louis C.K.
And I've picked her up at the airport.
Bert Kreischer
You like her?
Bobby Lee
Well, how, how did that.
Louis C.K.
That one time I was coming home and she goes, hey, I could pick you up at the airport. I'm like, you don't have to. And she said, can I please pick you up at the airport? And I was like, good. We're. We're equal.
Bert Kreischer
We're. It depends on what airport, to be honest. I mean, that is a big piece of it.
Louis C.K.
What you.
Bert Kreischer
It depends on the airport.
Louis C.K.
I mean, like, oh, for sure.
Bert Kreischer
My wife has never. Never. I mean, I. But I don't. I would. It's such an annoyance. Like, I don't even want her to because I'm pissed off. When I get to the airport, she's going to show up annoyed. It's like, I'd rather you just be chill at home.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Because. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
I don't like it when they don't do the full thing.
Bert Kreischer
What do you mean?
Louis C.K.
What.
Bobby Lee
Let me finish. All right. Let me finish.
Bert Kreischer
He speaks IN LIMERICKS.
Bobby Lee
Let me finish. Okay.
Louis C.K.
All right.
Bobby Lee
Kalila, my ex girlfriend, she goes, I'll pick you up from the airport. Right? But when I would land, she wouldn't be there. And she's like, I'm stuck in traffic, no go.
Bert Kreischer
You're right. Right.
Bobby Lee
Be at the. When the escalators go down where the baggage claim is, be there with a sign.
Carlos
All right.
Bobby Lee
And then sometimes it's like, come to the parking lot because I'm not gonna go in. You just have to find my car. No, you.
Bert Kreischer
No.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You come to me.
Bert Kreischer
You come to me.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Carlos
Thank you.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. I mean, well, it's not a full endorsement.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
I'm just being polite.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I just don't. I just. It just. I'm doing my best to travel better now, to have a better attitude, because it's such a nightmare when you get. Yeah, but that's why whenever she used to do it when we were younger and broke, she was like, you know, you can get a cap.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Like, you make money out when.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, but you're married.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, but I'm saying before we were married, we were dating. She was like, get a cap.
Louis C.K.
How long you've been married for?
Bert Kreischer
Almost ten.
Louis C.K.
Fantastic.
Bobby Lee
It's fantastic.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
You have kids?
Bert Kreischer
No kids. Can't have kids.
Bobby Lee
No.
Bert Kreischer
She's got a penis. No.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
I don't know.
Bert Kreischer
No, she.
Louis C.K.
I just.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
No, no, she doesn't.
Bobby Lee
Is it worth it?
Louis C.K.
What?
Bobby Lee
Having children. You have some?
Louis C.K.
I have two.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. That's two. That's some.
Louis C.K.
I think three or more do.
Bobby Lee
Really?
Bert Kreischer
A couple is two. Some is three.
Bobby Lee
Is some. Three.
Louis C.K.
I think some. It's like a series. Is three or more?
Bert Kreischer
It's crazy to teach an Asian math. That's like the wildest.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Y couple is two. Some is three.
Louis C.K.
It's more cultural, social, math.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Bert Kreischer
He's bad at all of them.
Louis C.K.
Sure.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Okay. So that you have a couple.
Louis C.K.
I have two children.
Carlos
What?
Louis C.K.
It's worth it. I think I Think anybody who's on the fence about it should just do it.
Bobby Lee
Really?
Louis C.K.
It's never a mistake. It's impossible for it to be a mistake.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
Person.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
For whatever happens.
Bert Kreischer
Wow. Well, your kids are grown. Like grown grown. Right.
Louis C.K.
Like 20 and 23. Wow.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Bert Kreischer
Out of college. Yeah. Or at college.
Louis C.K.
Any of them College. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
That's great, because I remember your first HBO special, the Half Hour. I think that was your first. Right. On HBO or.
Louis C.K.
No, I did one back in the 90s that was just goofy jokes. But the one I did, that was a half hour was all you talked.
Bobby Lee
About your kids and stuff. Yeah. That was a great special.
Louis C.K.
Thanks.
Bobby Lee
Amazing.
Louis C.K.
Thank you.
Bobby Lee
You know, I met you. I don't. You don't remember when I met you? I think I brought it up. The last time I saw you is on Mad TV with Laura Browski.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, I remember.
Bobby Lee
You don't remember meeting me?
Louis C.K.
I do, because my friend Dino wrote for you guys.
Bobby Lee
Oh, yeah. Dina.
Louis C.K.
I was on the lot doing something else. I don't remember. Maybe Cedric the Entertainer's show.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Louis C.K.
And so, yeah, I do. I used to see you around. I didn't really. We didn't, like, hang out.
Bobby Lee
Hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Did you write for Cedric Show?
Louis C.K.
I did. You did Cedric the Entertainer Presents.
Bert Kreischer
Pretty great.
Bobby Lee
You wrote on that show?
Louis C.K.
I was a writer and co. Executive producer. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Bert Kreischer
Give us. Give us some good said bits. Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I mean, Cedric was like Jackie Gleason. He was like a great performer.
Bert Kreischer
He's fascinating.
Bobby Lee
He's so fascinating.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, he really like. And now. Because now he's on like, a. Like a traditional sitcom and it's massively popular. Right?
Louis C.K.
Yes.
Bert Kreischer
Neighbor. The neighbor.
Louis C.K.
Something like that. Yeah. I'd never seen.
Bobby Lee
That's still there. That's still going on.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, it's got to be. It's those network shows. They'll just. They keep riding.
Louis C.K.
He was one of the most natural performers I ever worked with. The guy could make anything funny.
Bert Kreischer
Eight seasons.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Louis C.K.
We had this bit that I wrote called Texas vs. Maine. And it was some, like, local access cable show in Texas that he's. And he's a Texan, and it's about how much better Texas is than Maine, and he hates Maine. Does this kind of like. Kind of like. What's his name? The cartoon character with.
Bert Kreischer
Yes.
Louis C.K.
Cowboy.
Bert Kreischer
I know. I can't think of his name.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, yeah. Yosemite. He did sort of an impression of him and. And I used to love watching him do It. He was. He was really something. Yeah. A good guy, too. Like, really good guy.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
You haven't talked to him in years.
Louis C.K.
Oh, I haven't? No. I was like, you haven't talked.
Bert Kreischer
I could tell it's been a few years. Well, because you're talking about him in past tense. Like he died.
Louis C.K.
Like he died.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
So, no, we just still. We didn't. We didn't stay friends. I mean, not. Not actively, but I'm always happy when I do see him. I said, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Hey, do you hug them or. No, because that.
Louis C.K.
That.
Bobby Lee
That tells me a lot.
Bert Kreischer
I don't think you're a hugger.
Louis C.K.
We hug.
Bert Kreischer
You do?
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Okay, good.
Bobby Lee
I mean, when I saw you the other day, you gave me a side hug that was very fruitful. Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I'll tell you. I'll tell you the best thing that. The thing that warmed my heart. You said to me, this was great. This is probably the best piece of advice I've gotten from someone. We were at the Cellar, and we were in. We were in the Fat Black lounge, and you were in the hallway, and you're like, that was really good. When I got off stage, I said, oh, thank you, man. And you go, that's family stuff. That's great. And I go, yeah. Oh, thank you. And you go, that other stuff. Get rid of that. And I was like, okay. And, you know, the family said, that was good. And I go, right, right. And you go, but the other stuff.
Bobby Lee
No, he didn't.
Bert Kreischer
Yes, he did.
Louis C.K.
Yes, he did.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, he did. You did?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, in a jokey way.
Louis C.K.
I know. I mean.
Bert Kreischer
It was great.
Bobby Lee
Oh, you did.
Bert Kreischer
He was.
Louis C.K.
I saw him at the Fat Black. I had never seen him. I've seen clips of you guys together and stuff.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And so I was just watching him, and he was doing this stuff about his family, and he was doing a really smart bit about if you. About how you can. About resentment towards his parents and that later, when they become weaker, you start controlling their lives, you can get revenge on them. And it sounded really like the feelings felt real.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And that was really engaging. And then he talked about if you really want to get back at people that age, give them Bluetooth for presents. Like, Bluetooth items.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
And. And it was a great bit. And then he started doing something about Trump and the. Those issues that, you know, And I was like, I just felt. I just went away. And that's how I feel about most people.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
He's as good, though, I think I said to you you're as good as anybody while you're talking about your family.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
You're as good as anyone. Like, really great. And then the other things. You sound like everyone.
Bert Kreischer
Right.
Louis C.K.
You sound just like everyone else. Because this thing might take on that, you know, everyone's trapped in, like, four issues for, like, since 2016.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Trump, trans, blooded, a dad. It's just the same stuff. And here's my take on the woke. This. It's just so boring.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And. And everyone takes a shot on. On Twitter and on podcasts. We all do it. So on stage, it's like, why. Why you can fashion a great. You know, no one has your family. No one has your voice. You know, it's totally interesting to watch somebody. You can tell where they're, you know, where they're coming from, ethnically, where they're coming from in. Where they are in their kind of family. They had. That's. I'll listen to that all day.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Can I ask you.
Bert Kreischer
It was awesome.
Bobby Lee
I loved it. Can I ask you a question?
Louis C.K.
Yeah, you don't have to ask. No, I'm on your show.
Bobby Lee
I know, but can I ask you one?
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Okay, let me. Okay, so I want. No, this is the way. Because I want to be real for a second.
Bert Kreischer
Sure.
Bobby Lee
Okay. So I've always been obsessed about killing.
Louis C.K.
Huh.
Bobby Lee
So I'm not as prolific. Okay. Right.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, I understand that.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. And I haven't changed my. I mean, right now I'm doing a special for Hulu, so I'm trying to come up with new stuff. But my point is, is that. That I'm so afraid of not killing, that I. I've been. I'm in a rut.
Louis C.K.
I totally.
Bobby Lee
Because of that fear.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
You mean? And it's like, I know that there's more that I can do. I know there's more that I can say. And I just don't do it because I hate bombing, you know, I mean, and it's like, I just know that I'm not growing, and I know that, you know, I mean, you're so. You're very prolific, if I can say that.
Louis C.K.
Yes, I am.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Carlos
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
I mean, you're one of those comics that, like, if you're performing, like, all the comics will run into the room to watch you. When I perform, they leave. Fire.
Bert Kreischer
They don't leave.
Bobby Lee
They do. They do the whole background.
Louis C.K.
None of that matters.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
The other comedians, that's not your audience.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
You're not doing this for them.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Who am I doing?
Louis C.K.
You're just Their competition and their colleagues, they're just people that also do what you do.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
Has nothing to do with them.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. How do I get over this rut, though?
Louis C.K.
Yeah. What you're describing is a very important thing, and it's a very vulnerable place to be. You know exactly what you have to do. Your problem is your solution's right in front of you.
Bobby Lee
What is it?
Louis C.K.
It's just, you gotta. You gotta get over it. No, in other words, you're. You're. I mean, what I'm saying is you're way ahead of the game because a lot of people don't understand what their problem is.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I totally understand.
Louis C.K.
And that is the basic problem for most comedians, because they're afraid of that feeling. I'm not killing. I was raised to kill as a comic. I started in Boston. And in Boston, it was like, you might get hurt if you don't kill because the room might get really nasty.
Bert Kreischer
Right.
Louis C.K.
And someone might throw at you. They might wait for you outside. Like, there's a feeling in Boston of like, there's the bad version of this is bad. And also there was this kind of like this biting. Spare it there. So I. I liked it. I was 18 when I started, so I was killing, killing, killing. It took me a long time to realize that this is. I still try to untrain myself. There's bits where I'm like, that crushes, but it's not making me better. I gotta stop doing it. So it's not only not wanting to bomb, it's also like backing away from the obvious sometimes and just going like, yeah, that bit, it annihilates. But, yeah, what are we doing?
Bert Kreischer
You know, Better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
It's not quite. There's no quality to it. There's nothing that's. It's not taking me anywhere new. I mean, all. The thing is, the problem with comedians is they take everything very personally. And it's a. It's a scientific thing kind of comedy, and it's an art. So you should think of the, like, privilege, the work. What's. What matters is this bit, right? Like, I was watching this kid in New York and he was doing bits about the election, the last one, and it had been over for a while and. And the bits were strong.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
But people weren't really into it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And he made some comment on stage like, oh, I guess you guys don't like my politics or something. And I pulled him aside afterwards and I said, it's because it's an old topic no one wants to hear. About it old elections. And he said, I know, but this bits were killing and I don't want to let him go.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And what I said to him was, because he was very young guy, so I said, if you took the two minutes of political material and instead you stood there and did nothing, you'd grow more as a comic. It'd be better for you as a comedian.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I think every comedian should try to put. Especially in the workout sets in the clubs.
Carlos
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
At some point have like an alarm go off or some way that you go, I'm gonna do 90 seconds. I got no act. Just 90 seconds of. Just of Just try to see what happens if you don't keep coming and coming and coming with it. It's that panic moment of like, I gotta kill right now. If you can just get past it. It's like the sound barrier, you know that big explosion.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
On the other side of the sound barrier is like. Like there's a calm. You go, like, oh, I'm. I got power now. I'm not killing. They're looking at me. This is weird.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I'm still here. I'm alive. I can do a bunch of things I couldn't do on the other side of this.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
You could only do one thing when you need it to be. Kill, kill, kill. But if you get past that, you have like this bunch of other options that you're like, wow, I could do this. They're looking at. If the room comes alive when you stop getting and laughs. It does people. Yeah. People start going, what is going on? There's no. Because there's a. It puts you to sleep.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
They're not even listening. After a while, you know, if you're doing jokes. Joke. Haha. You could one always do one joke where you go, and then I flap the jet black claps it like where you literally make no sense. And you'll get. That's why a lot of comics have like 15 tags and they're getting jokes just because the. The motor's in motion. They're not funny.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
But you just get. You know what I mean?
Bobby Lee
I mean, it's.
Louis C.K.
You just have to. You're 54. What are you waiting for? It's time.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
It's never too late.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
You need to start going on stage and having bad sex.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, you have to. You have to.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, you have to.
Bobby Lee
That's it. That's.
Louis C.K.
You won't have to.
Bobby Lee
No, you. You have to.
Bert Kreischer
No, no, no.
Louis C.K.
I do it all the time. Every time. I go out to start, start writing a show. I. I struggle mightily for months.
Bobby Lee
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Bert Kreischer
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Bobby Lee
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Bert Kreischer
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Bobby Lee
And nowhere in time on set, you're like, I'm. I'm. I've lost the room and I have to do a joke that I know. It's proven or no. You stay in the.
Louis C.K.
Try not to do that. I do. I'm weak when I do that, but I try to stay in it and just go like, this is like when I'm developing a new hour, I go to the seller. I go in. I haven't been in for a while. I do five minutes. Maybe it's just a few jokes I have. And then I get off. And next time I do 10. When I get to about 20.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Then it starts filling in and it starts getting strong. When I have a strong 20, I put it away. I'm like, you can't do these jokes anymore. And I go back in with nothing. And I start with another zero. Hard.
Bobby Lee
What's so funny?
Louis C.K.
And then you get that brave, hard yoke.
Bobby Lee
Well, I'm gonna do it. Okay.
Bert Kreischer
1996.
Bobby Lee
So I don't do it on the special.
Bert Kreischer
He's got a Braveheart joke.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
It's funny.
Bert Kreischer
It's fresh.
Louis C.K.
Listen, my last special, or one of the last ones, I did a special, a joke about Good Will Hunting, and.
Bert Kreischer
It was one of the best jokes. Yeah, well, you did a whole thing about the Bible. That's old.
Louis C.K.
The Bible's been out for a while. Yeah.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
So, Louie, I'm gonna make a deal with everyone in this room.
Louis C.K.
Okay? Yeah.
Bobby Lee
For my special, I'm gonna. Because I've never done a special.
Louis C.K.
Right?
Bobby Lee
Right. So I have to do the things that I've amassed.
Louis C.K.
No, you don't.
Bobby Lee
For My special. It's in two months.
Louis C.K.
Okay, well.
Bobby Lee
I know, but for the next, you know, man thing.
Carlos
Yes.
Louis C.K.
Look, do the special and clean house.
Bobby Lee
I'm cleaning house.
Louis C.K.
And then start over.
Bobby Lee
I'm never gonna do those jokes.
Louis C.K.
That's great, right?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I'm gonna love that.
Bert Kreischer
He's gonna clean house the way a hoarder does, where they're like, don't really. Don't get rid of that. Put that right there.
Louis C.K.
And then I'll throw out one of the four kermits. I'm keeping the other three kermits unboxed.
Bobby Lee
I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you why I'm doing it.
Bert Kreischer
Sure.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Because when I perform, I don't feel good. I feel pain.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, man.
Bobby Lee
Every. I get that.
Louis C.K.
I've been there.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. I feel pain. I feel disgusted. When I drive home, I don't feel good.
Louis C.K.
You got. You totally get what's going on.
Bobby Lee
I know there's something going on.
Carlos
Yes.
Bobby Lee
And it's like when I was younger and I was, like, bombing and I was, like, trying new things and going, what's my voice? And all that stuff. It was. In retrospect, I mean, back then, you were struggling. There was no money and getting stage time and all the fucking shit that you have to go through. But still, in terms of performing, it felt new. It felt.
Louis C.K.
Jokes that kill are traps. They're. They are prisons.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And they keep you from. I mean, you're stuck in these bits. It's horrible.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I had the same opening joke for, like, 10 years or more, and I. Every time I said it, it felt like I was pissing out of my. My own mouth. I hated it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
So much.
Bert Kreischer
Can you tell me what is it?
Louis C.K.
Yeah, it's actually about piss. I hate. I hate saying it.
Bert Kreischer
Please do it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Louis C.K.
Oh, God, it's so horrible. I mean, it is what it is. It's a joke, but it's about. I live in New York. It was like, New York is the only city where you actually have to say things like, hey, that's mine.
Bert Kreischer
Don't piss on it. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I love that.
Carlos
That's a great job.
Bert Kreischer
I like. I like. Yeah, I've heard you.
Louis C.K.
It's a fine joke, but do it for 10 years every night. Like, it's not.
Bert Kreischer
You felt. He. That's. He's autistic. Sorry. He'll move furniture the whole show. It's just kind of what he does.
Bobby Lee
When you. When you try new stuff, do you have a button or Is it sometimes like, just a premise?
Louis C.K.
It's a premise, like, I come up with. I'll be, you know, walking around and I'll. I'll have a thought or in a conversation where I'm like, that. That's. I know that area is a bit right. And I'll write down the premise, just the word, like two words, of what it is. And then I wait. I try not to think about it too much till I get on stage. And then I go on stage the next time and I explain it to the first audience. And that's how I write it, usually.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Louis C.K.
And then it gets refined over time. Once in a while, bits come to me full, like. Well, I don't know where that came from, but it's just like a joke. Like, I'll come up with this, I'll think of a sentence, and then I'll think of a joke. Because I do still like jokes, you know?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
So I. Jokes, I just. They come. They pop in. But bits where you're talking about something, that's. That's the way I do those. You just, you know, there's an area. There's something there. And you wait because they're listening. There's no better. They're the instrument. So when you're working in the dark, it's like being a composer, they like to have a piano. They like to hear it, you know, not just sit there and go, this. And have it all in their head.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
When you have an audience, that's your instrument. So they're sitting there waiting. And that makes you. That brings it out of you, like, and it makes you come up with it. Funny, because that's what you. That's what you do.
Bert Kreischer
Pitch Louis some bits. You got some. He's got some new pitch himself. No, pitch him some bits.
Bobby Lee
I'm not doing it now.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, do it.
Bobby Lee
No, no, I'm not doing that right now.
Bert Kreischer
He's got a couple chamber. Come on, tell me one. Tell them one of the new bits.
Louis C.K.
One idea for new bit.
Bert Kreischer
Come on.
Bobby Lee
Well, I have a bit that I'm trying to get to work. It's.
Bert Kreischer
Look at Louie when you do it. Don't look at me.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I want to look at you. I want to look at you. I want to look at you right now.
Louis C.K.
Sorry.
Carlos
It's for you.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
It's good for you.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. So I have a bit about, like. My dad used to tell wild stories. I don't know if they were true or not. Right. Like when I was 14, my dad goes, when I was your age, okay. In Korea, I used to kill wolf, right? I go, there are wolves in Korea. So many wolves. You mean everywhere wolf. You know, one time, wolf attack, I break a leg, right? I take a stick, pop, pop in the face, right? Then a couple of days later, my friend John brought his corgi over to my house and my dad goes, how old is your wolf? I'm like, used to kill dogs, you know.
Bert Kreischer
It's a great bit.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
What's wrong with you?
Bobby Lee
It doesn't get a huge laugh though, on stage. It gets kind of giggle.
Bert Kreischer
It's a great bit.
Louis C.K.
Key. You got to do that bit, see? Yeah, yeah, Great bit.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Give him another one.
Louis C.K.
You gotta keep doing it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
All of every bit I have.
Bobby Lee
I give up.
Louis C.K.
That destroys.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Started either weak or like pissing people off, but I just keep doing it. And it's like. It's like walking to a firing squad and saying, shoot me. It's hard.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
And you go. And they go. But these, all these bits are really. There's still a few in. In my set now. Even though I'm doing theaters that I'm like, I still know I'm not getting what I should be getting with that one. It still feels weak, but I still believe in it. So I'm still. And it keeps changing and changing.
Bobby Lee
So I gotta.
Louis C.K.
Because sometimes you gotta keep doing it. You gotta do that bit over and over again.
Bobby Lee
Okay. That's what it is.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. Over and over, over and over.
Bert Kreischer
Are you doing the bit. Are you doing the bit about the. How we can mount and dismount an entire race and what one?
Louis C.K.
I don't remember. I remember those words.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, I love.
Louis C.K.
I don't remember what.
Bert Kreischer
The way you said that. That stuck out mountain. Now you're saying the way that we say, like when you have someone on the news.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Says like, oh, that.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. No, I don't do it anymore.
Bert Kreischer
Why? Dude?
Louis C.K.
Yeah, I had a whole bunch of stuff about people, the way people talk in the news. And I had some. About Trump and all this stuff and. And that stuff. I just decided I didn't want there here. And I'll. This may help help you. Okay.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Louis C.K.
I was given that bit. So I was doing. When I went back on the road, I took a year and a half off of comedy. I wasn't. I was gonna quit. Like, I decided I didn't want to do it anymore and I. So it was a really great break because I wasn't like just taking time off. I was like, I'm Done. But then I started coming up with ideas, jokes. So, you know, I just got full. I wanted to do them. And then I was like, just, let's just get back to it. But when I first started going out with this new set, it had these weird bits that are kind of strange and then this killer chunk about the news and all that stuff. And I was like, where do I put that?
Carlos
That it.
Louis C.K.
Where does it hurts? These other bits. How do they. You know? And then I was in Omaha doing a bunch of shows at the Funny Funny Bone, and one night I was like, what if tonight you don't do. You don't do those bits at all? Just take them out. And I took them out and everything else in the show kind of rose up and the show just got. Because it had a cohesion to it, and it just got better. Like your. Your bit is competing with these other bits. Like it can't follow Braveheart or whatever. You're killing.
Bobby Lee
Oh, I see.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. So once you're done with this special. Yeah, that bit should be like, you're.
Bobby Lee
No, I'm doing that bit on the. In the special.
Louis C.K.
Okay.
Bobby Lee
It's a new bit.
Louis C.K.
I mean, these bits will do better. The new ideas.
Bobby Lee
Oh, I see what you're saying when.
Louis C.K.
Have a little feeling. But that those. Also the bit about the news. Brian Regan did a bit kind of like it.
Bert Kreischer
No, not like that. Your. Your. His spin was the way people talk in the news then versus now. And you were saying the way that you'll have an anchor.
Louis C.K.
No, but he did. He did a thing about people saying there's. There was a fire today in Nicaragua.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, Naga. Oh, that's right.
Bobby Lee
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Louis C.K.
So I was doing. I was doing. Doing that.
Bert Kreischer
It was kind of near it.
Louis C.K.
It was near enough.
Bert Kreischer
The phrasing was great. I. The phrase stuck out of my brain when you go. Yeah. How did you mount and dismount an entire race in one word and with.
Louis C.K.
One word of your life?
Bert Kreischer
I love that.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, it was fun to do.
Bert Kreischer
I like that.
Louis C.K.
And then I did a thing about homeless versus unhoused.
Bert Kreischer
The unhoused.
Louis C.K.
But I just don't want to. I don't. I'm. I'm tired of having clever takes on what's going on in the world. Oh.
Bobby Lee
My whole act is. I have a whole hob. That's just five minutes of hob.
Louis C.K.
That's just me.
Bobby Lee
Oh, my God.
Bert Kreischer
His special is literally called clever take on what's going on. We got to change.
Bobby Lee
I'm just going to Put the greatest hits out. And then the next time I'm going to grow and it's going to be.
Louis C.K.
What about you? Where are you at with this?
Bert Kreischer
I just put out a special on you on Hulu, which, you know, which was. It was a good time for me to put out a special because it was Charlie Kirk got shot anniversary of 9 11. And then they took Jimmy Kimmel off the air and I was like, amazing. Put out a special, baby.
Louis C.K.
Drop it right there.
Bert Kreischer
It's insane. And. And Hulu. He's doing it with Hulu, too.
Louis C.K.
Your first one.
Bert Kreischer
That's my Hulu. That's number one. I did one before. I did one previous. Well, no, I did. Technically, that's.
Bobby Lee
You've done two on show.
Bert Kreischer
No. Showtime, then Netflix. Netflix was the first, like Real, Real Special.
Louis C.K.
But does Hulu have it forever or do you get it back?
Bert Kreischer
No, you get them back. Like Netflix too. They took mine down after it was like a license. So. Yeah, I might just put it up on YouTube. We were talking about.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, don't worry about it. It's so this. It's a body of work you're compiling over time.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
So it's got a life on Hulu right now. But the spec. I did a special called Hilarious and it was on Epics.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Great company. Great company.
Louis C.K.
Who cares? Who gives a. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Bert Kreischer
No, I know it does.
Louis C.K.
It's all of the. Back when I used to. Before I started selling them myself, I used to just find who wants this one? And it would be like Showtime or One was Epics, one was this. It just doesn't matter. They're all. They're. You're compiling a library.
Bert Kreischer
But now you'll sell them yourself forever. You're never going to go to a thing again. You'll just do just you now, right?
Louis C.K.
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I. I'd kind of like to be on a platform just to get more new eyeballs on the work maybe, but I don't know. We'll see.
Bert Kreischer
Also, plug the book.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Do you have a copy of the book? Book?
Louis C.K.
No.
Bert Kreischer
Dude, this is so funny. You would never read it.
Bobby Lee
I have a library.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, you want it just in the.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I have everyone's thing.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Louis C.K.
You guys have a copy? They should have sent you one.
Carlos
Yeah, Bobby has a copy. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Well, no, honestly. Where's my copy? I don't.
Carlos
I literally don't handed it to you.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, he did hand it to you.
Bobby Lee
Where is it? It's over Here somewhere. It's got to be over here somewhere.
Bert Kreischer
This pile of books.
Bobby Lee
I'm gonna read. I want to read it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
No, but I mean, you should show it to people, right? Or something. Yeah, whatever, man.
Bert Kreischer
It. Where is the book, by the way?
Bobby Lee
Star Trek the Next Generation, X Men.
Louis C.K.
I didn't write that at the Catholic Bible.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. I don't know where it is.
Bert Kreischer
Dude, bring it up on the. Bring it up there.
Bobby Lee
Bring it up on the thing.
Bert Kreischer
You know, that's probably my favorite thing is him getting mad. It's your book. He gave it to you.
Bobby Lee
I don't remember it.
Bert Kreischer
There it is. There it is, baby. Ingram.
Bobby Lee
Ingram.
Louis C.K.
That's my new. I just wrote that.
Bert Kreischer
And that's about Rick Ingram from Chris Rock Open.
Bobby Lee
What is it about Ingram?
Louis C.K.
It's about a little boy who's kicked out of his house when he was like, nine. And he's just walking around Texas and he's alone and he's. And he's. And life gets really hard for him.
Bobby Lee
Like Chauncey Gardner from being there.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, but he's like, much younger.
Bobby Lee
Okay. Yeah, but Chauncey Gardner, the character was a young. Because he had no influence except for television, so he was kind of a child.
Louis C.K.
Sure.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Well, that's not what this book's about.
Bobby Lee
I know, but what I'm saying, it's not. It's not that.
Carlos
That's.
Bobby Lee
You know, be different.
Louis C.K.
Sure, if you want. Yeah. It's about a guy named Chauncey Guard. Yeah, if that's what you want.
Bobby Lee
It's a little bit like. Kind of like Paris, Texas. He's kind of wandering. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
But I don't know Paris.
Bobby Lee
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Why are you doing that?
Bobby Lee
I don't know.
Bert Kreischer
Just let him have the book.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
You're trying to shoehorn some other story into it.
Louis C.K.
I mean, it's fine.
Bert Kreischer
It drives me nuts.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I would sound intelligent.
Bert Kreischer
It's not working. It's not.
Louis C.K.
It's. Stop it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I now.
Carlos
Audiobook.
Bobby Lee
What? Is there an audiobook? Yeah. And are you doing the narration?
Louis C.K.
I read it, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Oh, that's great. That's. I'll listen.
Bert Kreischer
I find it very odd when people don't read it.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. That.
Bert Kreischer
Wrote it. You wrote. You wrote it. You read it.
Louis C.K.
Well, I'm a performer. I perform, so I can do that. Some authors probably would have a hard time doing. It's hard. It's like, really hard. It takes a couple weeks.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. But I mean, I think a lot of times we find Right. That. Like. Like, look at Stephen King. Like, you know how bad Stephen King got off doing his reading? Do you know what I mean? Like, I think some of these guys, they love to write, but they're also like, it's weird. Want to hear me talk about it?
Louis C.K.
Well, it's weird when you read it because you're faced with what you wrote.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
So. And you have to read it with all the. You can't go like, yeah, I kind of wanted to do a version, like a whole version where I read it. Like. Or like. Or read it and like. Like this or something. Like a whole. The whole book in fals shadow or something.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, he's walking around the farm.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, he's walking around the farm. But anyway.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, but do you read in paragraphs, like. And then you go, cut. You cut it there and go as.
Louis C.K.
Far as you can go in one piece. And then you keep. And also somebody's there to keep stopping you because you up a lot. All right, so you have somebody going. You got that wrong.
Bobby Lee
Tedious thing.
Bert Kreischer
Like, when we do the movie, it's. When we did the animated movie.
Bobby Lee
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bert Kreischer
We did an animated.
Bobby Lee
Where you. Where you give me notes. Where you give me notes. I give him notes.
Bert Kreischer
I do give him notes.
Bobby Lee
Live every line. He goes, that's not how you say it. Well, because I'm like, what?
Carlos
He's like, well.
Bobby Lee
And then give me scenarios. Imagine this and this. And I go, okay, I get it.
Bert Kreischer
Well, try to have him say Fakasha. It's Fakasha. Yeah. Well, he got it there for, like a week.
Bobby Lee
In your face.
Bert Kreischer
Now we play these two little creatures, but we're bouncing a lot like we do on the show. We're bouncing. You know, it's like bouncing conversation.
Louis C.K.
And.
Bert Kreischer
And sometimes he'll be, am I the worst? No, no, no.
Bobby Lee
Be honest.
Bert Kreischer
No.
Bobby Lee
Am I the worst?
Bert Kreischer
Shut up. No, but he's so good. But sometimes he'll be not in our conversation. He's reading the characters. If it's existing in another space, I'm like, yeah, we're doing it. It's you and me. It's you and me.
Louis C.K.
Right.
Bert Kreischer
But when I do say that, you do come back and you kill it. Am I wrong? No. Thank you. Then we had to go do. We had to go do extra. And I left because I went separate. And he goes, how long did it take? And I go, dude, it's 40 minutes. You're in and out. Yeah, he called me. He's like. Took me two hours. I was like, Cuz I was gone.
Bobby Lee
But do you read it before? Because I haven't read it. So I'm showing up and I'm like.
Bert Kreischer
I do not read it before.
Bobby Lee
Oh, so you're good.
Bert Kreischer
No, it's just you. I just. No, we just work differently.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. That's like a neurological difference.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, it is. I just. We just. I just. Yes, yes, it is. I just see things like that to. Okay. With lines. With lines. Do you have like a memory? Like can you memorize lines real fast?
Bobby Lee
No, it takes me days.
Bert Kreischer
Right. It's. I can see it and do it. Right. I have this weird trick. I don't know why I'm so lucky, but I've been someone that can just.
Louis C.K.
What your brain does.
Bert Kreischer
Eat it and throw. I can throw it right back out.
Louis C.K.
Wow.
Bert Kreischer
You know who they said you should do that? That was that Charlie Sheen. I don't know if you saw that documentary. We've talked about it because we love it. They used to say John C. Would go. This guy would never rehearse.
Louis C.K.
Would.
Bert Kreischer
Would be. Be. Be on time, on the nose. Be unprepared. And then look at it and go, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah. And get an entire two page scene.
Louis C.K.
Incredible.
Bert Kreischer
And not even. It's just his brain had that digestion and regurgitation.
Louis C.K.
I used to just need like two. Two rehearsals to know it.
Bert Kreischer
Two. And then.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. Because I need to reading it. I'm just not. It's not getting in.
Bert Kreischer
Right.
Louis C.K.
But if I wreck through it and kind of do this two takes.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, yeah.
Louis C.K.
Then I. Then I know it. Because I lived the scene.
Bert Kreischer
Right.
Bobby Lee
So you don't memorize it in the night before.
Louis C.K.
That never did me any good.
Bert Kreischer
Me neither.
Louis C.K.
It only stressed me out and it didn't do me any good.
Bert Kreischer
I was always bad at that. If I could do it in the morning, if I read it right before I went there and then I got one run through, I would be like, okay, I. I understand what I was.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I understand what I didn't see because. Well.
Louis C.K.
And you do it in pieces. So it's like when you're filming stuff, you just, you. You only have to worry about this one scene and you do it a bunch of times from all these different angles.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And then you throw it away. It's gone. So you only have to worry about one thing at a time when you're filming stuff.
Bert Kreischer
Can I tell you my favorite scene from your show? That to this day, all the time, like over and over.
Louis C.K.
Okay.
Bobby Lee
Is it the art room yeah, that's my favorite. It's my favorite scene in the whole.
Bert Kreischer
World with you and Pam Adlon. And press the button. It says press the best favorite scene.
Louis C.K.
Dude, I love that.
Bert Kreischer
Just be. Here's. And let me.
Bobby Lee
Dude.
Bert Kreischer
And let me ask you. Let me ask you something. Because I get nerded out on those scenes. I'll rewind a scene like, it's Jay.
Louis C.K.
It's Jay. Big J Okerson's voice, if that's what you're gonna.
Carlos
It is.
Bobby Lee
It is.
Louis C.K.
BJ Big J. O K. Yeah. Hope I'm not getting him in trouble.
Bert Kreischer
No, no, no.
Louis C.K.
I mean, I asked him to do it. I said. I. I wrote him and I said, can you please say this word, like, for, you know, to choose one, like five times, Right.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Into your phone and text it to me and I'll send you a, you know, check for sag. Ch. Check.
Bert Kreischer
That's.
Louis C.K.
So he. He said, sure. He did it.
Bert Kreischer
And it's in there on the. On the first take.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Pam turns her shoulder and walks away.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. She just like. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
But is it. Did she. It's an organic laugh that you can hear in the audio. I don't think, like, she laughs.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
As she walks away, but I don't think she meant to laugh.
Louis C.K.
She doesn't really laugh. She kind of goes like, oh, like you can.
Bert Kreischer
She goes, okay. I hear her say, okay. She turns.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Did you. Surprise. Was it a surprise when she first heard it or you guys had already.
Louis C.K.
No, we knew what.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, God. It would have been so funny if it was surprise. I wanted it so bad to be like, cuz we. Cuz I like. There's a scene. There's a scene that I've nerded out like this about that I'll loop is in baskets.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
And I know you could tell he knows the scene because I've watched it 100 times, but Louie is drinking a Gatorade.
Louis C.K.
Yes.
Bert Kreischer
Your scene. That scene. It's the exact same comedy feeling in my soul where I go, this is so fun. And they knew it was fun. Oh, dude.
Louis C.K.
So I remember that day really well because. So when. When we set up Zach's show. Yeah. We had this meeting, me and him, and I don't remember who else was there, but I started asking him about. We were just trying to decide what the show's about. And, like, it was just Zach, a show for Zach, and I was working at FX that I had a show that was successful. And I said, I want to make a difference different. Another show. So they're like, all right. And. And I went to Zach first, because nobody ever made me laugh that hard as Zach did. So anyway, when we sat and talked about what his show would be about, this is. We had already made a deal. He's gonna have a show. I was like, well, what if your fan. What if you have family in it? You know? And I. And he. So we're talking about. I said, what's your mother? What about your mother if you had a mother? And he goes, yeah, maybe. And I go, what's your mother really like in real life? And he goes, she's always like, ah, Zach, why don't you do this? And I. And I just said, your mother's Louis. And we all laughed. And then there was this pause, and I said, what if we get Louie Anderson to play your mother? And he's like, why does that sound like such a good idea? Like, it just was immediately like, what a crazy idea. That's how it came about, because I was making a flip joke, and then I was like, this is. I. I enjoyed this part of the work. I was like, I just got on the phone, said, get Louie Anderson on the phone. I don't know him that way. We've met it in person a bunch of times. Always liked him, but I didn't have a relationship with him. But I just said, get me Louie Anderson on the phone. A few minutes later, I get this call from Louis in his car, and he goes, hi. Hi, Louie, it's Louis C.K. yeah, so I'm making a show for FX, and Zach Kalifanakis is the star of the show. We're doing a pilot, okay. And I go, we have a part, and it's a substantial part for you. The thing is, we want you to play Zach's mother. And I just hear the sound inside the car. And he goes, I love it.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Louis C.K.
And it felt like this. We didn't know what he would do. We gave him the job. There was no. Nothing written, and there was no. It was just that day we gave him the job. Wow. Made a deal, right? It was like, no, we're doing that. So I didn't know how it was going to work out, and I didn't know what Zach. So Zach hired John Chrysler. Chrysler.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, Chrysler. What's wrong with me?
Louis C.K.
Please look it up.
Bert Kreischer
Direct. Jonathan Chrysler. Chrysler.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Chrysle. Jonathan. I don't know how to say it.
Louis C.K.
Jonathan Kryl had done this show, Portlandia, which is one of my favorite things ever.
Bert Kreischer
It's awesome.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And he just had this way of setting up improv, setting up. Setting this scene for two characters. He knew how to shoot it, how to get. Get how to shoot it well, and how to just make it happen. So these guys just. I went after this one meeting where we talked about everything. I kind of went away and let them make the show. And then I showed up that day, and there's Louis Anderson in a dress. And I'm like, we're really doing this, huh? Wow. And I'm like, I don't know. What. What is the character? What are you guys doing? And I sat and watched them shoot that scene, which just happened. There was nothing to it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
They had something to argue about that he doesn't respect. He's being a clown.
Bobby Lee
Right, right.
Bert Kreischer
And Martha. That was like an introduction from Martha.
Louis C.K.
And then there was this obsession with this Gatorade. And when that moment happened, I remember it. I had just arrived a few minutes before with the Gatorade, and that hits the spot. I was like. I was like, what do we do? This is incredible. This is incredible. And Lou and I got to really love Louie. We got to know each other much better.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And then he won a Emmy. And it was such a glorious thing, that Louis, because I loved him when I was a young comic, and he's such a. A sweet and good guy. I used to open for him, struggled with his health. You know, it was really sad when he. When he passed away, but. But, yeah, I was. It was one of my happiest moments of my career was him winning an Emmy.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Louis C.K.
That was such a beautiful thing, because the way he did he. That character was fantastic throughout the season, two seasons. Great, Great.
Bert Kreischer
I was. I did a show on FX called Dave with little Dicky. And when I was on the show, I was, like, in love with. With baskets so much. And I was like, hey, I'll. I'll. I don't want to get paid. Like, can I just do a. Anything in the thing? I just was like, I'll do an anything, anything, any. And they were. And they were like, dude, they. You got to stop asking. Like, because I kept asking my agent. I was like, just tell them.
Bobby Lee
I'll.
Louis C.K.
It.
Bert Kreischer
They were like, they don't want.
Bobby Lee
Does that work if people. If. If. If talent asks?
Bert Kreischer
No, but they said they don't. They were like, usually, yeah, because I've.
Bobby Lee
Asked so many times, they're like, nah.
Bert Kreischer
It'S not gonna happen. Like, I don't even want lines. I just want to be in, like, a background. The Burger King. I want. I really wanted to be at the Burger King.
Louis C.K.
Right.
Bert Kreischer
And I was like, just let me be in the thing. And they're like, they don't want, like, an actor. Comic. They were like, they're not looking for that.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, you're not.
Bert Kreischer
You're in the wrong. I was like, I just want to be in the back.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, no, you wouldn't have been right for it.
Bert Kreischer
I know. See, that's right. There you go. Right. He was like, no, you can't do it, dude.
Bobby Lee
So when people go, like, my agents try to track projects.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Like when the crazy rich Asians were happening. Like, we're tracking this for you. We're putting your. Your name in the past, you know? And it's like, it never. I couldn't even get an audition at the end of the day. No.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. It doesn't.
Bobby Lee
None of that works.
Louis C.K.
No. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I mean, I think it's good if you're trying to be an actor. You go in for a lot of stuff because they remember you. You go. You just do the best version of you. Yeah. At the audition. And then you just are memorable. It doesn't matter getting that part. You know, like, if you read something, you're like, that's not my kind of guy. And you try to be it, you're going to suck. So you just do a weird. Your version of it.
Bobby Lee
Right.
Louis C.K.
And they'll go, that guy was good. He's not. He can't do this. But that guy. And they'll remember. I mean, I've cast a lot of things in my past with people that I've seen in other stuff that are. That I've seen in. In stuff that I had them cast, you know, come in for.
Bobby Lee
So go in for everything.
Louis C.K.
Go in for everything and do any part you get. I say no, because that's where, you know, the agents don't get you. You work. No, no.
Bert Kreischer
They're terrible people.
Bobby Lee
Worthless.
Louis C.K.
I'm not. That's just. There are.
Bert Kreischer
They're terrible people. They're terrible, absolutely worthless people. Some of the worst ever. They give some of the worst advice. They're snakes. They've set you up for something, and then when it goes bad, they're not there to back you up. They're the worst.
Louis C.K.
I think that. I think they're just. They're just terrible pigs. They're out of pigs. They're out of their depth a little. Or they're not in the. They're in the wrong business.
Bert Kreischer
I hate them. They're on the backs of us. They stink.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I can't wait to fire mine. We're done with the business forever anyway.
Louis C.K.
Way.
Bobby Lee
Whoa, dude.
Louis C.K.
Why would you be done with the business?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, me too.
Bert Kreischer
We're out.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
We're the last show in Hollywood. This is it. I think we're the last.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, over.
Bert Kreischer
It's dying. It's dying.
Carlos
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
That's a shame.
Bobby Lee
You do a movie and the.
Bert Kreischer
And the book, by the way, is available literally everywhere. Please go.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. So you pre order it now on all the things.
Bert Kreischer
All the things. All the things.
Louis C.K.
And It'll be out November 11th. November 11th. My first novel.
Bert Kreischer
It's your first one?
Louis C.K.
Yeah, I wrote another one after that. I still working on. I mean I finished a draft of it.
Bert Kreischer
Did you get like a book deal where they give you a new book deal? You know, they do this thing, it's a weird. They're like, give them a deal and then they. Then they make people write another book even if they didn't want.
Louis C.K.
No, no, I didn't get any kind of deal like that. I just, I just wrote this one.
Bert Kreischer
Good.
Louis C.K.
See what would happen. And I sent it out and this company, Ben Bella in Texas is publishing it. It's little company company.
Bert Kreischer
Ben Bella.
Louis C.K.
Ben Bella.
Bert Kreischer
Did you find them? They found you.
Louis C.K.
I got a book agent and he's a really smart guy and he found. Found them. He'd worked with them on other stuff. They don't do much fiction.
Bert Kreischer
Ah, wow.
Louis C.K.
But it's. It's distributed by Simon and Schuster, so that's. That's who sells it. But I didn't get a book deal from them.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Louis C.K.
It's like, I just, I didn't. I haven't been paid anything. I. I just wrote it and they're putting it out. We'll see what we make together. But I don't have an advance or anything.
Bert Kreischer
That's a good deal. We'll see what we make together.
Louis C.K.
I like it that way. I don't like the thing of like. Like when you. When I book on the road and stuff, agents like to get advances because they sound, you know, hey, we got you the money. Yeah. But all you're doing is betting against yourself. The last thing you want to do is like take a bunch of money from somebody and then you didn't do well. And then you're like, haha. You want people to sort of have a good experience of you. So.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, because you're a big crowd work guy. Clips. You're a bit. You started crowd work.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, that was my innovation.
Bert Kreischer
That was, that was Louie. Big crowd work Clip Guy, you were the first on Tick Tock to do it as far as.
Louis C.K.
That's right. That's right.
Bert Kreischer
I saw most of your.
Louis C.K.
I just saw it. I saw it as a new way and here I am. Thank God.
Bert Kreischer
I would love to see.
Bobby Lee
Does that annoy you? Like these crowd work guys on doing clips on Tick Tock.
Louis C.K.
I mean, it's the. They got what they got from it.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. It's fine. It's. It's fine.
Louis C.K.
It works for them, good for them. Yeah. I don't care.
Carlos
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I don't as a. I love stand up. I don't enjoy watching that.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Also when I see friends of mine do it, I. It's like you're killing in the moment, but no one's gonna remember it.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Right.
Louis C.K.
And you're not building anything. That's. But I have a different goal than them. They just want to run their numbers up and they want to get whatever.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
And also a lot of people pleases them. A lot. People. Really?
Bert Kreischer
People like it.
Louis C.K.
Yeah. So if an audience. If someone's enjoying it, they're right.
Bert Kreischer
Yes.
Louis C.K.
And the person who doesn't like it is just. It's none of their business. If you don't like something, it's none of your business. As long as somebody likes it. If nobody likes it forever, someone needs to. Someone needs to talk to them.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Yeah.
Louis C.K.
But you know what? If literally no one ever liked a comic ever doing anything.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
That'd be pretty incredible. I want to see this.
Carlos
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Like, David Tell had this. I don't think he ever did it more than once that I saw. He said, if you tell somebody you have a small penis, if you tell a woman you have a small penis, she won't be interested. But if you tell her you have the smallest penis in the whole world, she's gonna want it. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
He's. He's one of my favorites. It's unbelievable, that guy.
Louis C.K.
Yep.
Bert Kreischer
Who's the guy? Who's the guy that you. That you really have, like a comedy crush on? That you're like, oh, I love the way that that person works these days. Yeah.
Louis C.K.
I mean, that used to be Zach for me. I used to put my head on the table and cry.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Todd Glass has always made me laugh like that. So funny just destroys me.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Jim Norton, who I've been working with lately, just also really kills me. Yeah. There's a lot of guys I really love, but that kind of like. I can't believe it.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Louis C.K.
Todd Glass. I mean, I don't know if it's okay to do other people's bits, but I'm naming him.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, he did call him. We'll get approval.
Louis C.K.
Yeah, he did this thing about the lady next to him on an airplane has Reese's cups and she's taken one out and she looks at him, looking at him, and she goes, do you want one? And he goes, I want both. And he did some clip. I don't know if you can find it, but it was during the pandemic. He did some fake commercial, I think on maybe Instagram or something where he's showing you how you can pee outside. But he's. He's. He puts a. Just a bag, like a shopping. Like a plastic bag over his head and he just stands near a bush and he just starts pissing his pants. Completely nuts. So he. And I haven't seen him for a long time, but he's always been. He's always been a guy that destroys me.
Bert Kreischer
We love him. Yeah, he was doing a bunch of fake cop bits that were very funny. Do you remember that little run he had for a while of like getting fake pulled over?
Louis C.K.
He used to do a bit with breakaway glass bottles, like fantasy of like breaking. So he'd be. It's him walking down the street with like a beer bottle and there's some teenage girls and one of them gives him like a typical teenage girl, like, ew. And he goes over and he. Ah, yeah, he was. He was pretty great.
Bert Kreischer
He's the one right now. All right, look, the. The advice was good.
Bobby Lee
I learned so much today. Lou, did you have fun here?
Louis C.K.
Of course I did. It was really fun. I wanted to do the show cuz you guys have a great energy. It's fun and I had a great time.
Bert Kreischer
Well, we. We listen. We love.
Louis C.K.
It's not going to sell a single one of my.
Bert Kreischer
No, no, no.
Bobby Lee
Our fan. No, no, that's not true.
Louis C.K.
I'll sell one.
Bobby Lee
No, no, no. Ingram, Louis C.K.
Bert Kreischer
No, no, no. He's right. It's not. That's not going to.
Louis C.K.
It's not. But it doesn't matter.
Bobby Lee
Five. Five people.
Louis C.K.
Yeah.
Carlos
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Guys, please, please go purchase Ingram right now. Louie's first book. It would mean a lot to him. He asked us for a loan before the show. We were a little concerned.
Bobby Lee
I'm being real. I mean, I. Dude, thanks for being.
Bert Kreischer
On the show, man. I appreciate it.
Bobby Lee
No, no, no, that's it.
Bert Kreischer
Thank you so much. Go ahead, do your gay bit. Do your little.
Bobby Lee
I forget. I forgot.
Bert Kreischer
Do your senses.
Bobby Lee
No, I just think I'm just a huge fan, dude. I really am. I just think you're so great, and.
Louis C.K.
Thank you. Well, you make me laugh a lot.
Bobby Lee
Thank you. Thank you. And for. But. But just having you on here was just a great thing, dude. Why.
Bert Kreischer
Why can't I. Yeah, dude, he's the best living comics. Shut the up. Shut up.
Bobby Lee
All right.
Bert Kreischer
No, no.
Louis C.K.
Thank you for being a.
Episode Date: November 10, 2025
Hosts: Bobby Lee & Andrew Santino (with Bert Kreischer, Carlos, and guest Louis C.K.)
This episode of Bad Friends features renowned comedian Louis C.K. joining Bobby Lee, Andrew Santino, Bert Kreischer, and Carlos. The conversations flow through personal stories, comedy philosophies, stand-up technique, cultural observations, and insights into the art of evolving as a performer. The episode is a rich blend of hilarious anecdotes, vulnerable discussions about career ruts, advice for creatives, and reflections on Louis C.K.’s new novel.
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The conversation is casual, irreverent, and deeply honest, with the warmth of long-time friends ribbing each other and exploring insecurities and creative challenges. The group moves fluidly between hilarity and seriousness, maintaining a self-deprecating and open style emblematic of Bad Friends.
This episode captures an intimate, vulnerable, and hilarious moment among top comedians. It’s both a masterclass in stand-up philosophy and an unfiltered peek into the anxieties that drive and hinder even the most accomplished artists. Louis C.K.'s presence inspires deep reflection on comedic growth while keeping the mood light with stories and industry wisdom, making it a must-listen—and through this summary, a must-read—for anyone interested in the inner workings of comedy, creativity, and friendship.