
WarRoom Battleground EP 1040: One On One With Greg Bovino ...
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Gregory K. Bovino
Out of the road now.
Protester/Chanting Individual
Hey. Drop that bottle. Drop that bottle. You're all. You're 10. Coward.
Advertiser/Promoter
Chicken.
Protester/Chanting Individual
You are not a soldier. Brown Shirts. Brown Shirts. Brown Shirts. Look at. He's. He's doing his video. He's doing his. You down the block. This is the zone we were allotted to protest.
Gregory K. Bovino
People in Minnesota want to know when this surge will end.
Advertiser/Promoter
Has there been a date set?
Gregory K. Bovino
Is there a certain number of people you want to apprehend before you decide to ease the surge? We continue to apprehend dozens if not hundreds of these criminal illegal aliens today. We're going to continue conducting that mission. We're not going to put a date or a timeline to stop this mission. This mission's ongoing until there are no more of those criminal illegal aliens roaming the streets of Minneapolis. Is there a number, though? You have to have a file. There is a number and it's called all of them.
Advertiser/Promoter
The purpose of the revolution is the revolution. There's no issue you can settle with them. That's not how they roll. And they have a history of success in doing this that they're using this playbook. They're using Lenin's playbook, the Bolshevik playbook, kind of an updated version of the French Revolution playbook. They know it works. What did Cho and Lai say to Kissinger when Kissinger said hey when they're sitting there, kind of a quiet period when they Mao tse tongue and Nixon left and he says, what are your thoughts about the French Revolution? And this is 19, what, 72. Somebody says, too early to tell. That's because he knew there would be Minnesota's in the future.
Gregory K. Bovino
Right.
Advertiser/Promoter
This is. It's. Whoever's advising the President is not giving the full. The straight skinny on exactly what this is. And in addition, if you're going to do something like this, which is horrible to let Bovino go. He's been heroic in what he's done with the world against him. What'd you get for it? I don't see them talking about walls coming to the microphone with Fry and saying, Fry saying, I was wrong. They're criminals. They're criminals. They should be arrested. Instead of Bovino leaving Minnesota, they should be leaving Minnesota and going to some sort of holding tank until we can put them on trial. The deaths of the two people are as much their responsibility as anyone else. And maybe I'll throw the mainstream media in there for instigating this and instigating it. Who is a patriot and a hero and had a plan. And Bovino will tell you, hey, there's 100 million illegal aliens in the country. Let's play it again. I never met the guy. I never met the guy.
Gregory K. Bovino
No, he's irrelevant to me.
Advertiser/Promoter
I don't know who he is.
Stephen K. Bannon
You don't know who he is. He's relevant to you.
Advertiser/Promoter
You better find out who he is because you don't know what you're doing on your job. There should be tougher enforcement up there in New Jersey. That's Fort Apache right there. The more you show weakness. These people are savages. They're like dogs and animals. The more they smell, they can feel weakness and fear. They're going to keep coming. I thought we. I thought we made Antifa a terrorist organization. Why is treasury not shut down all sources of funding? Why are all of them not rounded up? That's. That's not a peaceful protest. That's not people trying to be there and peaceful protesting. No, that is a riot. That is an act of terrorism. When are we going to stop having press conferences start doing it? Bovino did it. Bavino told you. It's 100 million people, 100 million illegal alien invaders. And he was for mass deportations. If you haven't talked to him, maybe you should sit down and talk to him because clearly that's, that would have, might, would have a better take on what's happening right now. Now you're just taking incoming and any compromise from them, they're going to keep pressing it. And so now we're just not going to get down to bad hombres. We're going to get down to the worst hombres and then we're going to get down to capital crime hombres. And then you're not going to have anybody deported. The American people voted for mass deportations. The American people want mass deportations. The American people will come out in the fall and support mass deportations. Tap dancing around this is not going to get people going door to door and canvassing and saying, yes, we fully support this program and we will do whatever needs to be done and support
Stephen K. Bannon
you and support the political class that
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sorts this problem out.
Stephen K. Bannon
Monday, the 29th of June, the year of our Lord 2026. Very honored to have the man himself, the commander Bovine Bovino, sir. Talk to me about what you've seen. Just this last weekend we finally had the Supreme Court, which was a disaster today. The Supreme Court was great for us on Friday with tps, but over the weekend all we got, and I can play some of those clips later, we play them on the morning show the head of DHS given mumbo jumbo about the Haitians should now just take out and take time to fill out the form for permanent. We've had Politicians like DeWine of Ohio coming in and saying how great they are. They're amazing. They're buying homes, they're supporting the community. They're the cheap labor that the whole country's based upon. We had Mandami and we'll play that later on Friday. Tell us, just look right in the camera and say, hey, I don't care about the Supreme Court. I don't care about federal law. The Haitians are what made New York. I forgot the Haitian age of New York that built New York. But he's sitting there right up in your grill saying, I'm not going to force federal law. What is your take of what you've seen over the weekend, particularly about folks in charge and in power that want to enforce federal law, especially when the Supreme Court has our back, sir.
Gregory K. Bovino
Well, Steve, thanks for having me. It's good to see you. The Supreme Court handed President Trump and the American citizens, as you know, a resounding victory for tps that was massive there on Friday. What a fantastic decision that that was because not only for those Haitians, but we can traverse turrets and look at other populations as well in the future. What a great decision that was. But look what happened over the weekend with Mumdami and then Mullen. You talk about trashing a fantastic, resounding victory. And we had Mullin practically trying to get coerce or perhaps give advice to those Haitians to put their paperwork in to become citizens. Mundami actually said he's not going to enforce federal law at all in any form or fashion. So it almost seems like Mullen and Mundami have more in common with each other than they do with the American taxpayer. The American taxpayer wants mass deportations. They want deportations of all illegal aliens and those who refuse to assimilate. And they want them now. Why aren't those leaders, why are our elected leaders and our bureaucrats there in D.C. not getting that message?
Stephen K. Bannon
Commander, this. The TPS didn't surprise us. I mean, it went our way, but it's been in the works forever. Just walk people through in the normal
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logistics, planning, because now, you know, we
Stephen K. Bannon
just move heaven and earth. They get a supplemental bill. They got all the money they need. They say they got all the agents they need. They now get the Supreme Court in back of them. Wouldn't if you. Wouldn't you for a couple of months be ready to go as soon as this decision came down one way or the other. But if it came, if it broke our way, the buses would be rolling, the plane, we would already contracted the planes, we would have everything, just the logistics chain would be absolutely ready to get ready to ship these people out. Sir,
Gregory K. Bovino
strategic planning in terms of immigration enforcement is essential. Take a look at what happened over the past year when we were going city to city, that city hopping campaign. That didn't just happen, Steve, in an overnight planning session that was five years in the making. So yes, they had plenty of time, plenty of lead time there to understand that TPS was probably going to be something that was going away, especially for the Haitians and having a set of plans to pull right off the shelf, enact immediately, that's essential. Especially in immigration enforcement, when you have the ability to do that, you have to act quickly. You have to act quickly because as you know, there's federal judges and things like that that'll put a stop to that immediately if they can. So enforcing that right up front, pronto is very important. So why that's not being enforced while we're talking about folks can apply for citizenship or documents or that type of thing over the weekend instead of those buses rolling downtown New York City or wherever they need to roll is beyond me. But planning for immigration enforcement both strategically and tactically is something that border security professionals and immigration professionals know full well that can make the difference between success and failure. And again, you know, non border security professionals in key positions. I don't know
Stephen K. Bannon
so much of this is information warfare. What does it tell the people that have no intention of allowing officials at any level to deal with the illegal alien invasion here? In fact, they will fight it, these Marxist jihadists, communists, all of it. What does it do when a guy's on Jake Tapper's show on the big Sunday morning? This is the Sunday morning talk show for cnn. What signal is it sending them, sir?
Gregory K. Bovino
What sends a dual signal, one to those, those jihadists, those terrorists, those rioters and those anarchists that you just mentioned. It does send a signal to them that, hey, we can win this thing. We can give aid, comfort and relief to illegal aliens and anyone else in our country illegally. We can give comfort, aid and relief through simple, you know, doing what they've done for the past year, whether it's unlawful activities, riots, conducting those anarchist activities. Hey, apparently that's successful. And that was proven out this past weekend. And then the other thing, the other part of that, that we don't often talk about, Steve, is The fact that the terrorist groups, the illegal aliens, the transnational criminal networks, they're also watching this, watching what's transpiring, watching capitulations, like we saw this past weekend. And what that does, that empowers them. It's what we call in the Border Patrol a draw. That is a draw. Hey, you know what? Look, they're getting soft on immigration there. Let's go ahead and cross the border. Because what's next? Amnesty, perhaps? So it creates that draw. So we empower the anarchists, the rioters, those bad people, and then we also empower illegal aliens and transnational criminal organizations that, that smuggle those folks across the border. We worked awfully darn hard to get that border secure. Trump did a great job. The day he took office, the border started getting very secure. But one of the things that hurts a secure border is a draw. If we create a draw, a reason for someone to come into the country, then that definitely puts us back several steps.
Stephen K. Bannon
This is like when Biden, obviously, and the NGOs were working at this plan, all of a sudden through the Darien Gap. It's almost like a gravitational pull, a draw into the country that there's going to be benefits for you. We're really not serious about enforcing this. And that's what you mean by a draw, almost like a gravitational pull to pull more transnational criminalists, more jihadists, more illegal aliens into the country? Is that what it means?
Gregory K. Bovino
Exactly. And in the modern age of instant communications, the word gets out, not just say, in Mexico or Central America, but globally, it's across the globe in an instant. That, that draw, that reason for being able to come into the United States, that reaches untold billions of people, especially those that want to come in here into the United States, like those Haitians in New York City, by the way, I believe over 40% of those are on some type of public assistance, the ones that Mummy seems to support over American citizens. So those type of people, hey, I've got a reason to come. I've got a draw to come now because, hey, we've got the Secretary of Homeland Security, we've got Mundami and DeWine and others that are giving me a great reason to come, instead of the opposite, providing a reason not to come, like law enforcement. It really sets us back.
Stephen K. Bannon
I want to go back. You talked about strategic plan and been five years in the making. When President Trump, in those years in the wilderness, as we built this plan to kind of dovetail off the first term, it kind of was threefold. Number one, and these can happen concurrently. Number one, we have to seal the border. They've had 20 million come in under Biden's watch at least. We must seal the border. Be serious. By this time, Number two, there's a whole host of bad hombres here that, you know, criminal, criminal class, etc. But number three, the 20 million have got to go. Bad hombre or not, 20 million, we need mass deportation. So you had seal the border, remove the criminal class, mass deportations. So what we. Let's go back in time, because I remember the early days of the administration were hitting on all cylinders. You guys are, you know, there's a serious plan to seal the border immediately. We were just told for years and years and years, and the Biden lied that, oh, this is impossible. Sealing the border happened very, very, very quickly, I think in the first 60 first two months. Then you've got a plan for the bad hombres. But you've also got, from Chicago to Los Angeles, a major effort on mass deportations. Can you walk us through it and how you think each part of that worked?
Gregory K. Bovino
Sure. Everything starts at the border. What happens at the border has never stayed at the border. Steve, you know that folks that cross that border illegally don't stay at the border. They go right into the interior, and they set up shop in the interior, whether they're a criminal or a regular illegal alien. But one thing that I think is very important for the audience to know is once they set up shop in the interior, if there's not a mechanism to remove them back out of the country, that in itself hurts border security right along the border, because, hey, make it past the border patrol, and guess what? I got a free ticket. I can just stay there and do what I want to do, whether I'm a criminal or a Haitian that's utilizing public assistance. So part of our strategy was concurrently running heavy border security. As you know, the military is on the border now. Fantastic. Military assisting border patrol to shut that border down. That's great. But concurrent with that, you must have a very overarching and very tough interior immigration strategy and enforcement model, because once they make it past the border, when they realize, well, gosh, you know what? I'm not safe. I see a bunch of border patrol agents there in Los Angeles and then Chicago and then Charlotte and then New Orleans and then Minnesota. So it makes it very, very difficult to. For those folks to try to cross the border because there is no safe space for them anywhere in the interior. So border security and interior enforcement are closely linked. We missed that prior to Trump. 45. We missed that really bad, because you heard the politicians, George Bush included, Bill Clinton and the rest of them say, you know, we need to seal the border off before we do interior enforcement. Nothing could be further from the truth. It has to happen at the same time. We must do that at the same time. And that was part of our strategy. If you look when we hit Los Angeles there last year, when we hit Los Angeles almost overnight, what Trump had done on the border shrank even more. We cut those numbers probably half again to what Trump did. What Trump did on the border was, was truly amazing. But they realized, hey, you know, something else is happening there in the United States. They're really serious about this. When you have border patrol agents in the interior taking it to the bad guys, whether it's the criminal, legal aliens, the illegal aliens, drug cartels, it doesn't matter. And it really doesn't matter. We want to. We want to. We want all of them. It makes a difference. And something else I like to point out here, Steve, is when we talk about illegal aliens without a criminal history, you know, we've got that cultural aspect of our society that is under attack. They're going to vote us out, they're going to outbreed us. We need to remove all of these people. I say that the regular run of mill, run of the mill illegal alien is far more of a threat than those criminal aliens. Terrorists and folks with significant criminal histories. I'm going to say that again. They're more of a threat because our culture's at stake here. We can always get the terrorists, the criminal aliens, the worst of the worst. They're always going to have that criminal record. We can hit them, you know, from now till Sunday for, for the next 10 years. We can hit those, those folks all the time. But we've got a very small window to go after those hundred million other illegal aliens right here in the United States via mass deportations. So that was also baked into that strategy we're talking about is doing that. Our culture is at stake, our national identities at stake. Our values, traditions, and culture is at stake. We need them all gone at the same time.
Stephen K. Bannon
I'm going to come back to that in a second. We'll put a pin in that. Because one of the most profound things I think ever said in the war room, and we have a reputation of having people that said pretty profound things that have become not just winning strategies to take political power, but also to implement that power. I want to make sure people understand this Is that on sealing the border and making sure that we've stopped this onslaught, we've done what we could do, we've codified some of it. We. We're building a wall and doing other things. We've got the army down there. How comfortable are you that if we for some reason, lose the House and particularly get a guy like Hakeem Jeffries and some of these radicals in New York City in the House, running the Appropriations Committee in January, lose in November, January this year, and if a guy like Newsom or Ossoff or one of these people with even a more radical VP wins in 28, how secure is that border, given those scenarios, sir?
Gregory K. Bovino
Steve, the border is only as secure as the folks that are manning it. And look at what happened under Biden. 80% of that border went unmanned. Now, how would that happen? Well, I'll tell you what. When you have people coming across the border by the millions, you pull your Border Patrol agents back and have them changing diapers, doing the paperwork, actually completing the smuggling cycle. That's what we said in the Border Patrol. Hey, we're just completing the smuggling cycle now with what Biden and that regime was doing. So you pull all those agents back off the border, and you've got a border that is so wide open, you don't know what's coming through. There's a lot of numbers. 20 million, 30 million, 40 million that may have came in under Biden. We really have no clue because 80% of the border was wide open. So if you get a Hakeem Jeffries or any of that other cast of characters that you just mentioned. Absolutely. They've already proof tested the concept. So if you think last time was bad, what do you think's gonna happen the next time that type of a regime takes office? If it was 30 million or 40 million last time, it'll be another hundred million coming in. Good night, Sally. Good night, folks. Good night, America. So am I worried about that? You bet I'm worried about that. I spent 30 years on that border and I have never seen anything like what I saw under the Biden administration. Don't get me wrong, I was aggravated with, with, with Clinton, with Obama, even aggravated with George Bush and his lack of interior enforcement operations, but nothing like we saw under Biden. They've proof tested the concept, and if you think it was bad last time, they already know what to do, how to do it, where to do it, when to do it. Look out, then.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's only as secure as the people that man it. In other words. You're comfortable. We have sealed the border. It's gone to a trick or maybe even zero. We're putting technology down there. We're putting a wall down there. But it's who's all along the watchtower, right? It depends on what political force, political will you have in back of the ability to keep it sealed.
Gregory K. Bovino
You bet. First thing they'll do is pull the military. You can bet that regime they're going to pull the military. And then the next thing you know, it'll be a humanitarian mission. They call that a humanitarian mission? Border Patrol is a law enforcement agency, not a humanitarian agency. Agency. It'll be a humanitarian mission to assist, aid and abet the world's poor population that wants to come in and suck off the US Taxpayer. They call that a humanitarian mission. If you can believe that, that's what's going to happen.
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And foams against Miller and Gnome's dirty lies oh, I'm Minneapolis I hear your voice crying through the bloody mist we'll remember the names of those who died on the streets of Minneapolis. Now they say they're here to uphold the law but they trample on our rights if your skin is black or brown, my friend you can be questioned or deported on sight in our chance of eyes out now our city's heart and soul persists through broken glass and bloody tears on the streets of Minneapolis oh, out of Minneapolis I hear your voice singing through the bloody mist Here in our home they killed and roamed in the winter of 20166 we'll take our stand for this land and the stranger I miss we'll remember the names of those who died on the streets of Minneapolis we'll remember the names of those who died on the streets of Minneapolis Never miss.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Commander, I haven't had time because we want to get through as much. Foster, really welcome you to the War Room. I hope you know that you are one of the great heroes of the show. We, we spent so much time in the first year following your every move. And nothing can trigger our audience more than Bruce Springsteen's the Streets of Minneapolis. Your thoughts about that song and what it says?
Gregory K. Bovino
Well, Steve, I'll tell you, when Bruce Springsteen is singing a song like that, first and foremost it lets me and the Mean Green Team, that's a moniker for the US Border Patrol, lets us know that we were over the target, doing what we needed to do. If he is that triggered enough to come out of another retirement at whatever advanced age he is and try to sing a song like that, then we were definitely doing what we needed to do there in Minneapolis. I'll tell you folks ask me if I have regrets and things like that, and I do. And my regrets are that we didn't truly get to that mass deportation that we had in our strategy, which was a lot bigger, a lot more overarching than what you saw there in Minneapolis. I would love to have given Springsteen a real reason to write a song with some additional lyrics.
Stephen K. Bannon
The people we saw and what he's proposing. I just want to make sure the audience understands from you, who was there at the, you're at the tip of, of the tip of the spear. They have no intention, in fact, they want more illegal non citizens in this country. Correct. You saw it. There's nothing that can, nothing that can make them happy. They don't want to see the worst of the worst deported. They don't see the criminal element. They certainly don't want to see mass deportations. In fact, of the 20 million, they would gladly have another 20 million coming to the country, sir.
Gregory K. Bovino
Absolutely. Absolutely. Those folks were some of the most confused individuals I've ever encountered in my life, especially in Minnesota and Minneapolis. You know, we could arrest a child rapist right in front of them and they would attack us. It didn't matter. These folks have been fed so much, so much communist type tripe by the fries and the Tim Waltzes and those types that I honestly don't think they can think for themselves. That's why I call them cannon fodder. They're sent out to, to do things. They don't even know why they're doing them. And you know, it's, it's too bad it came to that, that they choose illegal aliens, illegal alien criminals, over their fellow American citizens. Look. Look at what's happening in the country. Folks can't even afford a house. They can't even afford a house. These anarchists and rioters that are rioting against us can't even afford rent and to buy a house. And a large part of that reason is illegal aliens in their communities driving up rent. You try to tell them that and, you know, their eyes glaze over and it goes right over their head. So a lot of those folks are almost beyond help, it seems, with this.
Stephen K. Bannon
We would watch you guys. And these in the patriotic, brave Border Patrol and ICE agents out there, these people, it's almost like a demonic spirit. You were there. I want to make sure I'm not putting words in your mouth when you're there. Is there any way to reason to them? Is there any way to talk about the country, the patriotism of the country, anything about the rule of law? Because the things we saw and we watched it all, we'd had Ben Berquam, we had, you know, Kevin Bosovic, we had our own reporters out there. And it was scary. We had to pull our guys back several times from really being torn apart by this crowd. How scary is it? And is there any way really to reason or reason with them as American citizens?
Gregory K. Bovino
I never really got too far in the reasoning part with them because they were more about violence and trying to find a way to either stop an operation or harm a Border Patrol agent. And as far as reasoning, the only time I ever maybe made some headway is after I arrested one of them, perhaps for assault. And then we'll talk with them. And then they would. They would oftentimes recant what they were doing and say, hey, you know, I probably shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry, when they're alone. But with that, that mob mentality, with what they've been fed by mainstream news like cnn, the same CNN that Mullen went on to talk about, tps, they've been fed so much by that that, you know, I think they're, they're, they're beyond having any rational thought. And that's what I saw. So no very, very unreasonable set of individuals. They're not only in Minneapolis, but that was in all cities that we saw. It's just we didn't really have the ability, because of that softer approach that was already kicking in then, to deal with those anarchists and rioters like we did there in Chicago and Los Angeles and other areas.
Stephen K. Bannon
What the MSNBCs and the CNNs. That information warfare, how much does that go to instigate this, sir?
Gregory K. Bovino
Oftentimes what we would hear from politicians when they would spout off things on CNN or msnbc, folks like Fry or Waltz, we would hear that same rhetoric echoed by the anarchists and rioters out on the street within 24 hours. It was, it was just like a dog whistle for them. They paid attention to what, you know, to what was being said on those channels and other, you know, other. Other sources as well. And we would hear it very soon after it was said. So. Absolutely, it had an effect. You bet. Almost in an immediate effect.
Stephen K. Bannon
Commander, I don't think people have had the opportunity to really find out much about you. They've seen you in your official capacity. Tell us about yourself. Were you born, what's your family take us up to going to the Border Patrol? We'll get to the 30 years of your service to the country, but get us up to there. Tell us about Greg Bevino.
Gregory K. Bovino
Wow, that's an interesting question here at the War Room. Well, yeah, I was actually born in California. My father was a veteran out serving in the military at the time during Vietnam, and spent about six weeks in California. I get ridiculed over that. Like you wouldn't believe in the Border Patrol. Hey, you were born in California. I really consider myself from North Carolina there. I grew up there in western North Carolina, up in the Blue Ridge Mountains. Fantastic place. A lot of hunting, fishing, rural activities, rural lifestyle. So, you know, I spent a lot of. Most of my, most of my young childhood there in western North Carolina. Had a good, healthy dose of patriotism. Founding Fathers, you know, family was big on Revolutionary War and that type of thing. So understanding those base principles of freedom, what it takes to attain freedom, what it takes to plan for freedom, was really thankful for, for that there from, from the folks, whether it was parents, grandparents or uncles, things like that. And then from there I went to college, Appalachian State University, Western Carolina University. I was actually a forestry major. I love the outdoors. I'm actually a conservationist. Steve actually wrote a paper there on illegal aliens and destruction of our nation's natural resources. Illegal aliens destroy things that our sportsmen, our conservationists, since Gifford Pinchot and Teddy Roosevelt 100 years ago began our national park system. Those resources are being destroyed now like you wouldn't believe. And hey, where are the environmental groups on that? Never hear anything about it. So did my graduate and undergraduate there. Joined the border patrol in 1996, had a lot of history there.
Stephen K. Bannon
But. But how Do I go how I go from a conservationist a gather once and following the footsteps of Teddy Roosevelt to what inspired you? You come from a military family. What inspired you to join the Border Patrol?
Gregory K. Bovino
Sure, yeah. When I was a child there, my grandfather had guns and ammo and Outdoor Life magazines like you wouldn't believe. They were laying everywhere. So I was a pretty prolific reader at a young age and I began reading those articles. A lot of the Border Patrol agents would write into those magazines. They had some fantastic stories, stories that were almost too crazy to believe. But it got me interested in the Border Patrol and you know, I actually put my application and one of the things there that I found was those stories were actually not that outrageous. Look at what happened over the past year on our city Hopping campaign. Now who would have ever believed that would have happened? So I had some, some pretty good mentors there from the Border Patrol that were actually in literature
Stephen K. Bannon
when you signed up. It was when. And did you expect at the time to make a 30 year career of it or were you just going to test it out and let me figure out like most people join the military, let me see how it is for a couple of years and I'll see that you have a idea that you would stay for a career or something you're going to check out.
Gregory K. Bovino
Well, I was going to check it out obviously at first and see, I didn't want to be bored obviously, or, or not have that sense of adventure that the, that's synonymous with the Border Patrol. But within just a, within just a few months of hitting the field, after the Border Patrol Academy, I figured out pretty quick that the Border Patrol was a very, very special agency. Border Steve has always been America's Secret. They're the Southwest border, always a secret, kind of out of the limelight. A lot of things happen on the border that stay on the border. Let's, let's let the Border Patrol do its thing down there and, and we're not really going to report on it. And in that type of an atmosphere, a lot of, a lot of good work being done, a lot of good people there in the U.S. border Patrol. I definitely wanted to be part of that. I wanted to do my part there to secure the border. But in doing so, even from the first year I was in the Border Patrol, I realized that there were problems here in the country, in the interior. That interior operation mindset was quickly disappearing from the Border Patrol. So I wanted to stay and at some point get back into the interior like the Border Patrol had always done. Over its 102 year history and get back into the interior and right the ship. GLAD I stayed. 30 years. It took 30 years to do that. 30 years of waiting. But when the time came we were definitely ready. We had that plan written. We just took it off the shelf and implemented so fantastic career. I'm glad I made that choice. Good time.
Stephen K. Bannon
How does a young boy from western Carolina. God's country. Appalachian State, Western Carolina. I went to undergraduate at a school up in the Blue Ridge Mountains and I got a place out not too far from Yuma. How do you.
Advertiser/Promoter
But just the environment when you're in
Stephen K. Bannon
Yuma that is the opposite ends of the spectrum from western North Carolina. Did you. As soon as you get in Border Patrol, did you realize that most of the border is kind of in places where it's pretty inhospitable? It's not western Carolina. That's like God's paradise, sir.
Gregory K. Bovino
You know, somewhat. But I was also outdoors almost all the time. If you're a border patrol agent and you like that conservation and conservationist mindset, that's fantastic career because you're going to be outdoors whether you're in wilderness areas or way out in the desert. Desert's got its own beauty in a. In a. In a weird sort of a way. So I enjoyed every bit of it. You know, wherever I've been I've always enjoyed some aspect of. Of of that. So I found the good there in. In the border and geographically little hot there in Southern California when it gets up to 122 and you're patrolling at 122 on foot.
Protester/Chanting Individual
Yeah.
Gregory K. Bovino
You tend to think about those nice cool summers there in western North Carolina. But we may do.
Stephen K. Bannon
Your dad's a Vietnam vet, so he knows about a government not having the back of the institution, particularly the army and the military in Vietnam. Did you get a sense when you first joined Border Patrol in those decades that the politicians would talk a good game but they really didn't have your back? Not. Not simply for coming to the interior, but just for securing the border in that time.
Gregory K. Bovino
You bet. You bet. That was something that border patrol agents knew. Those vacillations of politics have always plagued the Border patrol. You'll get a few tough talking politicians and a few that probably truly do want to do the right thing with securing the border in interior operations. But by and large the majority want nothing to do with it. That subject's too difficult for them. They love status quo. They love topics and subjects that are not dangerous to them or their political careers or their power, so they stay well away from it. So, yes, it was very frustrating as a Border Patrol agent to see the work that could be done that wasn't being done.
Stephen K. Bannon
We only got a couple of minutes, and I want to make sure we leave. Looking forward to having you back on here, but you've been one of the biggest voices about that. We got to get this. We got to address the issue that President Trump got elected on, not simply the security of the border. And it does matter who's watching, who's along the watchtower, because it's not going to be permanent. This is about the mass deportations. What is your sense right now that, what, you kind of shocked the country because you were such a leader, say, hey, look, it's not 20 million. You know, you talk about these shares of what Biden let in, but it's really 100 million. What is your recommendation to President Trump? What is your recommendation to the American people about what we do with this issue of mass deportation? Sir,
Gregory K. Bovino
approximately 80 million voters wanted mass deportations. They didn't want limited deportations. When we talk about Vietnam War, that limited warfare that we had in Vietnam, look at what that did. We lost. And that limited mindset in terms of deportations among amongst a very few rhinos and then. And then some liberals, and we need bureaucrats within the government. It's going to ruin it for everyone. This is survival of the species, ladies and gentlemen. This is survival of America. So my advice is get to those mass deportations now. We've got the strategy, we've got the personnel, the training. We can enact mass deportation starting tomorrow. We're not doing that now. Once we surrendered, Minnesota mass deportation stopped. And when it stopped, we were only scratching the surface of what was ahead. So get to those mass deportations and save America, because that's what's at stake here. This is not some political talking point, as you well know. Steve and War Room and Steve Bannon have said it better than I could ever say it as to what's at stake here. So get to those mass deportations now. It's not rocket science for us. It's not rocket science for ICE and Border Patrol. We know what needs to be done, how to do it. Is it going to be difficult? Absolutely. Is it going to be pretty neat and clean every single time? No, it's not. We never said it would be. But we need to get to it and get to it very quickly because time is running out. And then as you, as you alluded to before, if something happens and a Different type of regime comes in, look out. But if we can remove those 100 million or this 106 million from the Interior now makes it so much harder for them to import more in, in the future because those, those illegal aliens and transnational criminal organizations know that it can be done right now. They don't know it can be done because we capitulated. Never give up, never capitulate. You only make those enemies stronger.
Stephen K. Bannon
By the way, we're going to go out with Natasha Owens response to Bruce Springsteen. One of the favorite songs in this audience. Before I let you go, look forward to having you back on here is the esprit de corps in Border Patrol. Is esprit de corps in ICE and is the functioning apparatus in dhs? Are they prepared now if they got the go ahead from the president tomorrow to implement the strategic plan for mass deportations of the 100 million?
Gregory K. Bovino
Sir, they are now. When we talk about morale, morale took a hit after. Minnesota is taking a hit now, especially with those feckless bureaucrats that are going back and looking at some of those specific actions of ICE and Border Patrol definitely took a hit, but they signed up to play the ball game. They signed up for mass deportations. They're ready to go. So yes, that, that esprit de corps, that morale comes back very quickly when you have good leadership in place that takes care of this board of patrol agents and ICE officers, not ridicules them and allows them the power and authority to do their jobs to defend and uphold the Constitution and support the taxpayer of the United States. You bet. We can get it back in an instant. But it takes leadership, not, not hollow rhetoric and, you know, encouraging Haitians to
Stephen K. Bannon
apply for paperwork in the right set of circumstances. Would you come back and lead this effort, sir?
Gregory K. Bovino
Short answer is yes. But this effort should be treated like this is the new war on American soil. You know, we are over in Iran and doing some things over there. The real war is here. And for me to come back, it would have to be an overarching. Everything goes, we throw everything at it and deport those hundred million before any other regime can stop us. So something like that. If you want to see overarching, you want to see a real effort, I'll certainly be happy to lead that. But if I come back, we're not playing tiddlywings.
Stephen K. Bannon
Commander Bevino, you are a patriot and one of the greatest living Americans in this 250th the week that kicks it off for the commemoration and celebration of the birth of the nation. It's an honor to start the week with you. Where do people. We got about a minute. Where are your coordinates? Where do people still get you?
Gregory K. Bovino
Gregory K. Bovino on X. Mainly on X there, Steve. So you can get me there. I will have a book coming out one of these days and I'll let you know about that. And that'll. That'll have all the juice that you and I have been talking about. All the juice. It's coming.
Stephen K. Bannon
Commander Bovino, honored to have you on here. Thank you, sir. Look forward to having you back.
Gregory K. Bovino
God bless Steve.
Stephen K. Bannon
One of the greatest living Americans and patriotism personified right there. That job was hard. Needed to have his back one day like Cincinnatus. Maybe we'll get him back from the plow. Also like President Trump. We're going to leave you with Natasha Owens. We'll see you tomorrow morning, 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time. When you'll be back in the world.
Protester/Chanting Individual
I still believe in freedom? Cause I got a higher hope. I'll keep singing for America even if you song of compassion? Where is your song for the hurting man? I was born in the USA and I used to be a loyal family. You preached from your mansion and you lost that human touch. I thank God you're not. I thank God you're not. You know you still need help from the boss. We need help from the boss.
Date: June 29, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guest: Gregory K. Bovino, Retired Border Patrol Commander
In this in-depth interview, Stephen K. Bannon speaks with Gregory K. Bovino, a retired commander of the U.S. Border Patrol, about immigration enforcement, recent Supreme Court decisions on Temporary Protected Status (TPS), mass deportation strategies, and Bovino’s personal background and motivations. The discussion draws on the fallout in Minneapolis and Minnesota, critiques perceived failures in border and interior enforcement, and explores what both men see as an existential battle for American culture and national identity. The conversation is unflinching in tone and direct in language.
“…That empowers them. It’s what we call in the Border Patrol a draw. That is a draw. ‘Hey, you know what? Look, they're getting soft on immigration there. Let’s go ahead and cross the border. Because what’s next? Amnesty, perhaps?’”
— Gregory K. Bovino [11:31]
“The regular run of the mill illegal alien is far more of a threat than those criminal aliens, terrorists... They're more of a threat because our culture’s at stake here.”
— Gregory K. Bovino [16:18]
“That limited mindset in terms of deportations among a very few rhinos…and then some liberals…is going to ruin it for everyone. This is survival of the species, ladies and gentlemen.”
— Gregory K. Bovino [44:35]
“They signed up for mass deportations. They’re ready to go. So yes, that esprit de corps, that morale comes back very quickly when you have good leadership in place.”
— Gregory K. Bovino [47:06]
“Short answer is yes. But this effort should be treated like this is the new war on American soil…If you want to see a real effort, I'll certainly be happy to lead that. But if I come back, we’re not playing tiddlywings.”
— Gregory K. Bovino [48:18]
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:07–01:47 | Street-level tension in Minneapolis, protest incidents | | 07:24–09:30 | Supreme Court TPS decision analysis, enforcement criticism | | 13:17–14:49 | Concept of “the draw” and global signaling | | 16:18–20:14 | Three-fold strategy: border, criminal removal, mass deportation | | 21:22–23:42 | Political future, risks of regime change, “only as secure as who mans it” | | 30:14–34:06 | Media influence, mentality of protesters, challenges of enforcement | | 36:28–42:00 | Bovino’s personal journey; motivation for joining the Border Patrol | | 44:35–48:18 | Direct recommendations, call for immediate mass deportations, readiness |
Throughout the episode, Bovino and Bannon speak in uncompromising and martial terms, framing the issue of unauthorized immigration not only as a legal or security problem but as a fundamental threat to American culture and existence. The tone is militant, alarmist, and emotionally charged, calling for immediate, sweeping action and suggesting an existential “war on American soil.” Both the political class and media are blamed for failures and resistance, while the operational capacity of Border Patrol and ICE is portrayed as primed and only awaiting the “go” from leadership.
For listeners: This episode is useful for understanding hardline views on immigration enforcement, seeing how the U.S. border is discussed as a cultural and strategic front line, and for insights into the career motivations of longtime enforcement professionals like Bovino.
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