Episode 5582: Michigan's Abdul El-Sayed Supported Trans Shooter

Summary

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Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5582: Michigan's Abdul El-Sayed Supported Trans Shooter

Date: August 12, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Jack Posobiec, Wayne Allen Root, Jason Kilmeier, Peter Navarro

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on three main themes:

1. The Illegitimacy of Joe Biden’s Presidency – Bannon and guests double down on their assertions of a stolen 2020 election, using the Biden cancer diagnosis and funeral planning to drive conversation about legitimacy and national honor.
2. The Scandal Around Abdul El-Sayed’s Senate Run – Jack Posobiec reports on controversial podcast statements by Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed in the aftermath of the 2023 Nashville shooting.
3. Republican Strategies For Mass Deportation and Election Integrity – Discussion of plans to enact mass deportations if Trump returns to office, and the use of national security emergencies to reform election law.

The tone is combative, unapologetic, and at times conspiratorial, with frequent calls to action for the MAGA base.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Biden’s Illness and the State Funeral Debate

[00:00–14:55]

• Bannon expresses indifference to internal Congressional drama:

  “We could care less. They get a speaker. They get a speaker. They don't. They don't... What we're fighting for is our country.” (Bannon, 00:00)

• Extended reflection on legacy and family in response to Biden’s cancer diagnosis:

  “My dad... the best father, the best husband, the best grandfather of anyone that I've ever read about, heard about, or even seen in a movie.” (Bannon, 00:41)
  “I want to send my thoughts and prayers to former President Joe Biden.” (Bannon, 00:41)

• Bannon pivots swiftly from empathy to politics, arguing Biden is “illegitimate”:

  “We have to face a reality check here... He is not and never was a president, United States. How do I know that? Look at, look at the row of the presidents in the White House. No photo of him. It's an autopen. I know that's a little bit tongue in cheek, but the reality is there's no picture of him among the honored dead of our presidents.” (Bannon, 06:24)

• Argument against honors or a state funeral for Biden:

  • Asserts Biden oversaw a “highly organized invasion” by migrants, amounting to treason.
  • Compares denial of state funeral to Nixon’s non-traditional funeral, escalating:

    “Did a state funeral for Benedict Arnold? Don't think so. State funeral for the Rosenbergs? Don't think so.” (Bannon, 10:46)

  • Framing: “He’s no different than Benedict Arnold.”

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2. Posobiec’s “Game Changer” on Abdul El-Sayed

[16:14–22:48]

• Jack Posobiec reveals opposition research:

  “[Abdul El Sayed] had a podcast for years... So I started listening to the Abdul El Sayed podcast.” (Posobiec, 18:14)

• The clip in question:

  • El-Sayed is alleged to have blamed conservatives for the Nashville Christian school shooting because of anti-trans legislation, blamed the Second Amendment, and downplayed trans violence as “gun violence.”
  • Posobiec:

    “He blamed the shooting on conservatives... blamed the Second Amendment itself and said that it should be repealed... We don’t have an epidemic of trans violence. We have gun violence.” (Posobiec, 18:50)

• Framing from Bannon:

  “This is a game changer in Michigan potentially... Would he be so cavalier while the blood of Christian children was running in Nashville?” (Bannon, 18:56)

• Critique of GOP and opposition research failures:

  “Where's the money going? I'm sitting here, you know, in my office, pulling this stuff.” (Posobiec, 20:29)

• Preview for tomorrow's show:

  “They don't like using his entire Muslim name, so we'll just call him Abdul. Abdul is a Sharia supremacist. In his own words, a Sharia supremacist. So we'll get down to that tomorrow.” (Bannon, 21:58)

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3. Wayne Allen Root’s Emergency Proposal & Media Pushback

[22:48–34:21]

• Discussion of Root’s idea for Trump to declare a national security emergency over elections:

  “You have the right to declare a national security emergency for elections... they can't challenge it. It can only be overturned by a two thirds vote of both houses of Congress.” (Root, 22:48)

• Root’s explanation for the proposal and backlash:

  “I've been singing the tune national security election, a national security emergency for elections since March. So it's been six months of screaming from the highest mountaintops on all of my shows.” (Root, 24:21) “When someone overreacts... it's the reaction that’s the key.” (Root, 25:51)

• Mocking mainstream media:

  “They wouldn't put me on MSNBC or CNN if their life depended on it because they can't debate their way out of a paper bag.” (Root, 27:41)

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4. Mass Deportation Planning & GOP Strategy

[37:45–50:36]

• Jason Kilmeier’s plan for mass deportation:

  “Mass deportation is a new and different skill set. And it is something that we have not really had to do... What we need to do is understand this as a great logistics exercise, one in which American civilians participate.” (Kilmeier, 40:24)

• White House coordination proposed:

  “Take it out of any department. Put it right in, not just in the West Wing, maybe put in the office next to the president.” (Bannon, 45:32) “You run it directly out of the ... White House complex... you flow out, we can divide into regions just like FEMA does.” (Kilmeier, 46:02)

• Clear contrast between GOP and Democratic immigration strategies:

  “...we will either have mass deportation or mass importation. There is no longer a third option.” (Kilmeier, 48:58)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bannon on Biden’s presidency and honors:

  “How can you possibly honor somebody that is a traitor that illegitimately stole a presidential election?... He’s illegitimate. He was never elected. The election was stolen.” (06:24–07:09)

• Jack Posobiec highlighting a Democratic split:

  “Even Barack Obama does not view Joe Biden as a legitimate president. Boom.” (Posobiec, 17:30)

• On GOP “failure” to attack El-Sayed earlier:

  “I'm sitting here, you know, in my office, pulling this stuff. It's unbelievable.” (Posobiec, 20:54)

• Wayne Allen Root attacks media avoidance:

  “They wouldn't put me on MSNBC or CNN if their life depended on it because they can't debate their way out of a paper bag.” (Root, 27:41)

• Root’s extreme accusations about Fauci:

  “That guy is a mass murderer. In any other industry in the world other than government, he'd be on trial for manslaughter.” (Root, 35:13)

• Kilmeier on the future of GOP strategy:

  “It will be the primary, if not the primary plank, in the Republican Party platform because mass importation is now the key part of the Democratic platform... There is no more running from this.” (Kilmeier, 48:57)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00–14:55] – Biden’s illness, funeral honors, and Bannon’s argument for “illegitimacy”
• [16:14–22:48] – Jack Posobiec reveals Abdul El-Sayed podcast findings, says it’s a “game changer”
• [22:48–34:21] – Wayne Allen Root promotes use of a national emergency for election law; media reactions
• [37:45–50:36] – Jason Kilmeier describes mass deportation plan and White House execution strategy

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Episode Flow & Tone

The conversation is relentless, passionate, and highly adversarial toward political opponents and the mainstream media. Bannon steers with rhetorical flourishes and historical analogies (“traitor,” “Benedict Arnold,” “deep state”), while guests supplement his argument with strategic insights and opposition research.

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Useful Links

• Root for America: Wayne Allen Root’s podcast and writings.
• Jack Posobiec on Social Media: @JackPosobiec (Twitter, Truth, Telegram)
• Jason Kilmeier’s Column: [Daily Caller]
• Wayne Allen Root Call-In: 800-347-ROOT

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Summary for New Listeners

If you haven’t tuned in before, this episode is a prototypical Bannon’s War Room: rapid shifts between headline battles (election legitimacy, immigration, Dem scandals), harsh criticism of GOP “weakness,” and strategic guest insights. The tone is urgent, dismissive of “legacy media,” and braced for political conflict. The core narrative is that all current national crises—border, legitimacy, judicial actions—are downstream of the 2020 “stolen election,” with Biden’s imminent death serving as both a human story and a political flashpoint.

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Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

We could care less. They get a speaker. They get a speaker. They don't. They don't. They blow past the 17th. I guess the illegitimate Biden regime has got to shut it down, you know, send a note to somebody that cares, because we don't. What we're fighting for is our country. Trump has come back from the plow, like Cincinnatus, like a mythical carry, heroic character from ancient history, from the Roman Republic, to say, called back from retirement to save the republic, knowing what he knows about everything. He's come back for the second time and is not competitive. We must be focused on the main thing, and the main thing is the removal of the illegitimate Biden presidency. All of the fruits of the poison tree. It all goes back to that stone. Elections have catastrophic consequences.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

My dad in our family, excuse me, I wish he would complain more because it's not good. The cancer has spread, is metastasized into his bones and further. It's very painful and it's very debilitating in many respects, but he's still out there. He's still doing this thing that he so believes in this country. My dad, in our family, excuse me, my dad is, and to this day, and remains the center of our family, not just because of who he is, the public person, but completely because of who he is to each one of us, down to his grandchildren and his great grandchildren, his great grandchild. He is our rock. And whatever you think about his politics or the decisions that he made, I can tell you this, he's the best father, the best husband, the best grandfather of anyone that I've ever read about, heard about, or even seen in a movie. Before we end tonight, I want to send my thoughts and prayers to former President Joe Biden. In an interview with BBC on Friday, Biden's son Hunter said his father's prostate cancer has spread to other parts of his body and is causing him pain. Hunter Biden grew emotional as he discussed his father's condition, describing it as very sad to watch. The former president revealed his cancer diagnosis in May of last year, just four months after leaving the White House. Biden will publish a memoir titled Promise Me America after the midterm elections. This is not Joe Biden's first fight. America has watched for decades as he's endured tremendous personal loss with grace, humility, and enduring commitment to public service that still drives the conversations he and I have had when we speak. I have every hope that Joe Biden's family will see him make a full recovery. And I know from talking to the man, he has every hope this country can and will do the same.

[Steve Bannon]

States is being laid to rest in Yorba Linda, California. Farewell to Richard M. Nixon. Much of the country is watching now, and many of the people who played an important role in his life have gathered in Yorba Linda, California, to bid

[Stephen K. Bannon]

farewell to the 37th President of the United States, who, of course, died last Friday at the age of 81.

[Steve Bannon]

Though I walk through the valley of

[Stephen K. Bannon]

the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.

[Steve Bannon]

Thou preparest a table before me in

[Stephen K. Bannon]

thy presence of mine enemies. Thou anointest my head with oil.

[Steve Bannon]

My cup runneth over.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not getting a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.

[Wayne Allen Root]

I know you don't like hearing that.

[Steve Bannon]

I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Wayne Allen Root]

And where do people like that go

[Steve Bannon]

to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

[Wayne Allen Root]

country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Tuesday 11August, year of Lord 2026. Thank you for joining us for the live afternoon early evening edition. We're absolutely packed for the next two hours, so strap in. Want to start? I want to make sure we get a marker out there. President Nixon and it's the debate whether it was kind of approved as a state funeral. But President Nixon had his funeral service and was buried then. Buried in the backyard of the little house they had in Yorba Linda, California. I think his father was a grocer. Did not have any of the pomp and circumstance or the ceremony or any of the gravitas or the nation mourning in the nation's capital, in the Capitol, National Cathedral. None of it. President Nixon had none of it. Now, some people say President Nixon didn't want to do it, didn't want to come back to the swamp. Hated these people, but they weren't prepared to do it anyway. JOE Biden we have to be consistent here and, and look for the Biden family and for Hunter Biden and obviously it's having a huge impact on that family. They look like they're very close. They appear to be very, very close. And of course, when prostate cancer spreads, it's incredibly painful. And so I'm sure the family's going through some very difficult times today and over the next few days. But we have to face a reality check here. We have to be consistent. We said at high noon on the 20th of January of 2021, when President Trump left that tarmac at Andrews and they had the 20 people there in the big circles out there. We had just finished the broadcast Real America's Voice, the morning war room. It was picked up after that because our, you know, it. The whole thing was disgusting. He's illegitimate. They stole the 2020 election. He is not and never was a president, United States. How do I know that? Look at, look at the row of the presidents in the White House. No photo of him. It's an autopen. I know that's a little bit tongue in cheek, but the reality is there's no picture of him among the honored dead of our presidents. Joe Biden was illegitimate. Worse, he helped coordinate with the people of his illegitimate regime. An invasion of the United States of America of 20 million people that were every day fighting about. It's torn the country apart. It's going to tear the country more apart when we start forcing the mass deportations. The fun stuff hasn't happened yet, folks. That's on Joe Biden's watch. Joe Biden did that. As an illegitimate president, United States, he's guilty of treason. Under no circumstances should Joe Biden have a state funeral. Impossible. How can you possibly honor somebody that is a traitor that illegitimately stole a presidential election? And the railhead of all our agony is back with Joe Biden. We have to be consistent. He's illegitimate. He was never elected. The election was stolen. We know now the Chinese Communist Party helped him and other dark money sources. Mail in ballots, machine Jew pickam. He's illegitimate. And the illegitimacy was for a reason. So they could work with their enemies to flood the country with illegal migrants, asylum seekers, illegal aliens, you name it. 20 million on his watch. And the country's torn asunder now because the sanctuary city is saying, oh, no, we're not going to do it. You can't come in. ICE can't come in. No interior, no interior enforcement whatsoever. How do you honor that? What would the nations of the world think? Are we complete hypocrites? He's illegitimate. We said that from the Very first, second of his presidency. It's one of the real reasons they wanted to send us to prison. And prison, I don't give a damn. Send away, baby. The war, I'm only got bigger. You know why? Because the people that you know, the Dave Brats and the Natalie Winters and all of it, the Mo Band, Grace Chung's, Paul Posto, everybody stepped in. Navaro, you got tougher. Next man up, you got tougher and tougher and tougher. He's illegitimate. He was never the president. United States. I got photographic evidence over on the wall of the President. He ain't got a picture. He ain't got a photo. They got a pin. All those pardons are legitimate. And this is why we should rev up the prosecutions. Hello. Hello. You have to be consistent. He was in back of and allowed a highly organized invasion of 20 million illegal aliens. You do not get a funeral. Hell, they're sending Nixon out there to be buried in his backyard. And some dignitaries flew. Yeah, presidents flew out. They all flew out. Billy Graham, I think there. No. And they say, well, it was a state funeral, but he didn't want to do it. No, that's not a state for. I'm talking about the whole deal. Like Reagan got. Now President Trump did. There's a big controversy. I put a CBS article up. If people can do a force multiply. Read the CBS article. I think it's from 2019. This issue about John McCain. President Trump said, hey, you know, eventually I approved it. And National Cathedral said, no. The only thing you need to prove for a state funeral is a former president needs consultation, approval from the White House. White House. No state funeral for Joe Biden. He's unworthy. He's illegitimate. They stole the election and then he allowed an invasion of the country. What has torn the country apart? We have to be consistent.

[Wayne Allen Root]

No.

[Steve Bannon]

Did. Did a state funeral for Benedict Arnold? Don't think so. State funeral for the Rosenbergs? Don't think so. There cannot be a. You cannot honor an individual that stole the presidency and then was the head decision maker and approved an invasion. Remember, my York is going up every day. Well, we can't stop it. We can't stop it. We know it was highly organized. Highly organized with enemies of this country, these NGOs and dark money groups. So let's just be consistent. He ain't got a picture up on the wall, he don't get a state funeral. Pretty simple. He's illegitimate and he's the railhead. His illegitimate regime was the railhead for ensuring that The Democratic Party is the least competitive without the illegal aliens, without the migrants out, the asylum seekers, without the foreign born that are all voting illegally. With these scam programs, they can't win, and they know that. But the family wants to do wherever they want to do it. Delaware, Scran. Scranton, Joe, maybe they doing Scranton.

[Jack Posobiec]

Don't know.

[Steve Bannon]

That's for the family. That's a family decision. And Hunter just told you, they're very tight family. So I'm sure the family will come to the right conclusion. But no state funeral. He's not worthy of it. He is unworthy. He's unworthy for honors to be given to him as a real president. Because he's phony. They didn't let Nixon have it. I don't care. The happy talk. Oh, well, we got, you know, it's a state funeral. He got buried in his backyard, and the funeral was in his backyard of the little house that he was raised in. Jack Vasobic, we're gonna pivot to another topic, one of my favorites. I'll do a call for you, but talk to me about. I don't want to drag you into this, Jack. You know, I don't want to drag you into this. This is a war room fight, and we'll figure this out. But no state funeral for a traitor. They give Benedict Arnold. They give Benedict Arnold. Joe Biden's no different than Benedict Arnold. He's no different. Benedict Arnold fought for the other side, worked for the other side, but Benedict Arnold never brought 20 million invaders into the country. It's outrageous, even the concept of it. And President Trump has a kind heart. And President Trump is magnanimous. Even this article, reading the 2019 article where he said, you know, he went out of his way to approve McCain's, all the McCain stuff, and of course, they came back and slapped him in the face. Oh, you didn't need to do anything. You didn't need to do anything. You know, the head of the National Cathedral. Oh, you didn't need to do anything. President Trump, once again, magnanimous. A man with a good heart. He's a kind man. I realize Trump derangement syndrome. They never give that. They attack and attack and attack. And even in being magnanimous, we can't set a precedent to. To allow an illegitimate holder or occupant occupy White House. We can't honor that with a state funeral. The highest honor we can give someone reserved for real presidents. Let me repeat that. He's a traitor. The agony this country's going through and the agony we're going to continue to go through. Because, folks, you ain't seen nothing yet. You've seen nothing. You think Minneapolis is bad, Forget about it. You ain't seen nothing of what is going to have to occur to rid this nation of the illegitimate illegal invaders that came in on Biden's watch. Invited in on Biden's watch.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Short break.

[Steve Bannon]

Wayne Allen Root.

[Jack Posobiec]

Next.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

War room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bam.

[Steve Bannon]

Jack Posobic. I don't want to put you on the spot, Jack. I understand you're heading over to be with the viceroy this evening. You got other things going on. Jack joins us by phone. Jack and I want to get to this clip that you found because I think it's a game changer in, in Michigan potentially. I mean, I think it's awe inspiring how you guys dug it up. Your thoughts about what I just said?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, obviously that, that's one for the books. That is just one of the most epic war room rants that I've heard. I gotta get. By the way. I've got to go to the guys and, and get that to change to the baby Bannon. I need baby ban and saying that for the, the social media side and, but, but I. Because it'll go back to your. Going back to the original one. Joe Biden was not elected. Impossible. But Steve. Ste. Steve, you missed something. You actually you actually miss. If I could give a note. You missed. My favorite one of all is this. Barack Obama never congratulated Biden on setting the record for winning the most votes ever. And when Barack Obama went to the White House. Wow. When Barack Obama went to the White House, what did he refer to Joe Biden as? He said Vice President Biden. He did not call him President Biden. He called him Vice President Biden. So even Barack Obama does not view Joe Biden as a legitimate president. Boom.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, I get my work. I got my work assignment overnight. We're gonna get Baby Bannon, and we're gonna get Baby Bannon. We're gonna get that and others. We'll have. We'll have another one tomorrow.

[Jack Posobiec]

I know you by the end of the.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, I know you're pressed for time, so tell me about. What have you found out about this disaster for the Democratic Party? The jihadist in Michigan that's running for the United States Senate, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve. What? What? What? I don't know what the Michigan GOP or the Katie Walsh doing over there at NRSC with all that donor money, but people seem to have forgotten or not realized. This guy had a podcast for years, and he's had all the episodes, and they're all still up, and you can also download them. So I started listening to the Abdul El Sayed podcast.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold it, hold it. Stop, stop. Hang on, hang on, hang on. He's got a podcast that the op research guys have not pulled all of it and stripped it and started hitting us with spots nonstop, sir. That can't be. That can't be right. They can't be that asleep.

[Jack Posobiec]

Parish, Paris. The thought. I have not heard any of this before. You had K File over at cnn did some. Did a little bit. And. And then I started digging through Steve, the first one that jumped right out of me, and I drove back to it because it's something that looms large in my mind. Back In March of 2023, the Nashville church, the school shooting, the Christian shooting by Audrey Hale, the trans female of Covenant School. They killed the three little kids. Two girls, one boy. And then the three staffers. Yeah, I drove right back to that. And what did I find? Was this candidate, this leftist. He said he blamed the shooting on conservatives for passing the trans bills in the Tennessee legislature signed by Governor Lee. He blamed them for being the ones that caused the shooting. Then he went so far as to blame the Second Amendment itself and said that it should be repealed. And on the back of that, he said, well, we don't have an epidemic of trans violence. We have gun violence. And I thought to myself, gosh, would he be saying the same if it were a mosque? God forbid. But if it were, would he be saying the same and would be so cavalier while the blood of Christian children was running in Nashville?

[Steve Bannon]

How many. Why did it take you to drill down and define this? I take it from you and your team that a lot more of this is going to come out in the next couple days that you're going to, you're going to frame and make observations on. But why did it take you guys to do this?

[Jack Posobiec]

Steve, that's, that's an interesting question because, you know, I've, I've seen a lot of these Republican events, GOP establishment events, lavish affairs. They put it together, they go out, they're asking for money. We get the tech, I get the text messages and the emails and the letters and all the rest for donations. Where's the money going? Where is the money going? I'm sitting here, you know, in my office, pulling this stuff.

[Steve Bannon]

It's unbelievable. Jack, I know you got to bounce. We're going to get more of this. But you're saying there's a whole wealth of this radical talk like let's get rid of the second amendment.

[Jason Kilmeier]

And by the way, by the way, let me say.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, wait till you hear this. Wait to hear this. Remember, he could runs around, call himself public health official. Wait till you hear this guy simping for Fauci and the vax.

[Steve Bannon]

God, it's going to be amazing. He's a health official, right?

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, yes, A very, A very real doctor. Very real doctor and a health official.

[Steve Bannon]

Jack, where they go for your Twitter feed? You're the Associated Press of the Maga movement. Where do folks go?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, thank you, Steve. Of course, it's at Jack Posovic. Then of course you can follow me on Truth Getter and Telegram as well. Instagram coming in. Fire Telegram. That's the one. We keep it. We keep it uncensored over there. So I say that one's only for really hardcore types.

[Steve Bannon]

Jack Pasoic, thank you so much. Appreciate you and Libby Evans and the entire team, everybody. Incredible.

[Jack Posobiec]

God bless the post.

[Steve Bannon]

Millennial. Tomorrow we're actually going to show an article. Bring on a couple of reporters going to talk about Abd. Was it Abdul? Abdul. They don't like using his entire Muslim name, so we'll just call him Abdul. Abdul is a Sharia supremacist. In his own words, a Sharia supremacist. So we'll get down to that tomorrow. And we're going to start. If the, if the RNC is not going to do the work, we'll, we'll make sure that individual investigative reporters will do the work and we'll give them a platform. Wayne Allen Root, do we have the clip? Let's play the clip first because they're in full meltdown this afternoon, but I want to show the real thing and then have Wayne Allen Root come on and comment. But this afternoon, total meltdown on ms, MSNBC and CNN over Wayne Allen roots interview with the President. Let's play it.

[Wayne Allen Root]

So let me, let me put an idea in your head, okay? Because it's so hard to get the Senate to do anything now. They're on recess. They don't get anything done if they never get the Save America act done. You have the right to declare a national security emergency for elections. And the supreme court ruled in 1983 under Reagan that INS vs Chadha, that if you declare a national security emergency as the President, United States, they can't challenge it. It can only be overturned by a two thirds vote of both houses of Congress. So if you do this in the next month, we will get photo id, proof of citizenship and a limit to mail in ballots.

[Jack Posobiec]

And let me say the stranger that happened, okay, I'll leave it at that.

[Wayne Allen Root]

All right, we'll leave it at that.

[Steve Bannon]

We're going to, we're going to play in a few minutes some of the meltdown. Wayne Ellen Root, why is it left melting down? The President says, hey, I'll take a look at it. Sounds logical, right? You've come on this show consistently over the last month and saying you had a cold shot. The Senate's not going to deal with, they're going to give us all kind of happy talk. They're going to leave on vacation. So guess what? They gave us all kind of happy talk, didn't deal with it, left on vacation. And you said, here's the alternative and by late August the predicate will be laid out enough between what P's finding and John Solomon's finding and other people are finding that we got to get on with it to make sure that we have a secure and fair election in November. Wayne Allen Root, you've been pretty damn consistent, have you? Have you not, sir?

[Wayne Allen Root]

Yeah, listen, I, I invented this idea out of kind of whole cloth, just out of thin air back in March. And I've been singing the tune national security election, A national security emergency for elections since March. So it's been six months of screaming from the highest mountaintops on all of my shows, my America Speaks show here on RAV, my America's Top 10 on RAV. My podcast War Zone Live, my national radio show, my columns at the Gateway Pundit. I mean, I've been screaming this a lot, Steve, and I got to tell you, the reaction to it is fun because it reminds me of years ago. I had a business and I had 100 plus employees and bunch of salesmen in a room. And one of them, we all went to lunch one day. Steve, this is a very important story. We all went to lunch and I noticed one guy stay behind. I didn't say anything. I just noticed in the corner of my eye he wasn't going to lunch. The whole office left. When we got back, there was money missing. And I immediately knew it had to be him. There was no one else in the office. The door was locked. He stayed behind. So I said to him, listen, you know, you're the only one that was here and the money's missing and you had access to it. And he freaked out. No, no. Oh my God, I can't believe you're accusing me. Oh my God, he freaked out like no one you've ever seen. And I said, my God, what an actor. He's over exaggerating. He's overreacting. So a simple thing. Did you do it? And this went on for months. And then he left my company. I never heard from him again for 20 years. I lived in New York in those days. I moved to la. I have a house in Malibu. Twenty years later, the phone rings, I pick up, it's him. And he says, it's been on my conscience for 20 years. Yeah, I stole the money. So I'm just telling you, when someone overreacts, my God, voter id, proof of citizenship. There's nobody committing fraud. There's no foreigners voting, there's no illegals voting. And this elections aren't stolen. It's Trump's a bad man. He's the Orange Man. It's because they're stealing elections. And they're stealing it because there's no voter id, because there's no proof of citizenship, because illegals are voting, because illegals are getting their licenses at DMV and because mail in ballots are the biggest fraud in the world. No other country in the world allows it. Harvesting. Voter harvesting. And dropboxes. Voter dropboxes. No other country in the world allows it. They're overreacting because they are stealing. It's the reaction that's the key. And the second reaction, Steve I got to tell you this one, too. In the last five years, I've been the center of about five media firestorms where I said something on the air like this time and every TV show, every radio show, newspapers in Australia, newspapers in Israel were covering it. Roots said this, Root said that. Wayne Roots said this. Wain Root's a conspiracy theorist. Wayne Roots, a far right wing host, but not one of them in five times, in five years ever called me to ask me for a quote or to ask for an interview or ask for a debate, to rebut it, to debate it. Did you really say it? What did you mean? That tells you everything. They don't want to even hand me a microphone, Steve. I can't even get a mic because they're so afraid that if they debate me one on one, I will destroy them. I will tear their thumb, throat out. They have no shot against me. They wouldn't put me on MSNBC or CNN if their life depended on it because they can't debate their way out of a paper bag.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on for one second. We're going to stick to, we're going to play some, we're going to play some clips. Also, Jason Kilmeier from the Daily Caller has a quite brilliant piece up the week about mass deportations in the midterm elections. We want everybody to read it and think about it. Jason Kilmeier. Also join us, Ed Dowd, Mary Holland, Rachel Rodriguez, all in the second hour. Most Americans are forced to spend too much money on health care and getting too little in return. If you're one of the millions frustrated by traditional health insurance, I want to tell you about America's Health Share. Go to Freedom for all health. That's freedomforallhealth.org Bannon now that's a mouthful. Freedomforhealth.org that's freedomforhealth.org Bannon and discover why tens of thousands of patriots are joining America's Health Share. America's Health Share reduces your health care cost by an average of 60% and it's accepted everywhere. In other words, say goodbye to out of network limitations. They make healthcare affordable, transparent and aligned with your values. Free from surprise bills or skyrocketing premiums. For as low as 68 bucks a month, an individual can get great health care coverage minus the complications and price gouging from health care providers. You can completely scrap your current insurance or use America's health care to supplement your existing policy, even with Medicare. Simply go to freedom for health.org that's freedom for health to learn more. Right now, new members get their first month free with promo code Bannon. It's time to make America healthy. Join the community of patriots taking back control of their health care. That's freedomforhealth.org Bannon freedomforhealth.org Bannon promo code Bannon. Make sure you go check it out. Immerse yourself in the details of America's health.

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[Peter Navarro]

Will the big lie from 2020 pave the way for even bigger lies in 2026 and 2028? Today, election deniers are scattered across across the ballots in several states holding primaries, including in races for governor and secretary of state. Among the most notable names, Minnesota gubernatorial candidate and MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, who's made his alliance with Trump a centerpiece of his run. He was still talking about the 2020 election four days ago. He said, quote, everybody knows it was stolen. That of course, is not true. And then there's Tom Tiffany, running for governor in the critical swing state of Wisconsin, also still embracing the big lie and apparently the big cheese. He tried to overturn the election as a congressman and was still pushing an FBI investigation into the results as recently as this spring. Tiffany is listed among 19 election deniers. The democracy docket says we need to watch heading into the fall under a headline that says bluntly, we should be worried. Another reason to worry the president's seemingly endless desire to figure out some way anyway to sway the midterm results in his favor. Even if that means taking over the whole darn thing.

[Wayne Allen Root]

Let me put an idea in your head, okay? Because it's so hard to get the Senate to do anything now. They're on recess. They don't get anything done. If you declare a national security emergency as the President states, they can't challenge it. It can only be overturned by a 2/3 vote of both houses of Congress. So if you do this in the next month, we will get photo id, proof of citizenship and a limit to mail in ballots.

[Jack Posobiec]

And let me just say this stranger that happened, okay?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I'll leave it at that.

[Peter Navarro]

Peter Navarro, who are breathing new life into the big lie. I want you to take a listen to what he said just yesterday to Steve Bannon about the evidence that they are still looking for.

[Steve Bannon]

I have some good stuff for you this week.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I've been digging through all of the

[Steve Bannon]

stuff that John Solomon has been able

[Jason Kilmeier]

to get out into the public, which

[Steve Bannon]

has been of course ignored by the legacy media.

[Jason Kilmeier]

But I'm doing my job and packaging

[Steve Bannon]

that in very easy to understand messages in op eds. This is what's so wrong, Steve, with.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

With just about every journalistic outlet except War Room.

[Steve Bannon]

It's like they won't deal with the hard truth about what happened in 2020.

[Peter Navarro]

Reminder, his title is senior counsel for the President on trade and manufacturing. And perhaps he should be focused on that Eddie instead of spreading election lies. I mean, these season one characters will give up.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, let me have it. He is focused on that. That's why you're bringing back record amount of capital in manufacturing. Capital to build out manufacturing base and re industrialize us after you twinks over at MSMEC forced us to de industrialize. Wayne Allen Root. Are you prepared to go on Menendez? She's got the new hot show over there. Or Stephanie Rule. Stephanie Rule. I'll have you on. Are you prepared to go on MSMEC and make your case, sir?

[Wayne Allen Root]

Anytime, anywhere. Not only my case about the stolen election or case about national security emergency, but also my case about Dr. Fauci and the poisonous, deadly Covid vaccines that I called from day one. Every single thing that's tumbling out of the box now out of the dark closet of Dr. Fauci. I called all of it as a matter of fact. You go back in the records, you look at any of my radio or TV shows from 2021, early 2021. I mean like as soon as the vaccine was out in January, February, March. I was saying the trials show that pregnant women are miscarrying at a rate of over 80%. And now that number is out. And it turns out Fauci knew it and Fauci told everyone, it's fine, it's safe. Go have your baby and take the shot. Everything will be fine. It's great. And how many women miscarried? How many babies are dead? The guy's a baby killer. He's a mass murderer. He's Joseph Mengele. And the last time I came on your show and I said that Media Matters did a big story on it, and I think Right Wing Watch did a big story on it, and MSNBC covered me saying on TV he's Joseph Mengele. Oh, the Daily show laughed at me for calling him a mass murderer. And Joseph Mengele. Let me tell you something. A guy who knows for a fact, Steve, that babies lives could be endangered in their mother's stomach and tells the mothers it's fine and use that product, everything's fine. And yet in secret, he knows there's big problems and he's scared. That guy is a mass murderer. In any other industry in the world other than government, he'd be on trial for manslaughter. In any other industry in the world and he'd be evil name to the entire world. This guy should be in a modern day Nuremberg death penalty trial. Now. Good, good lawyers, fine. Fair jury, fine. Of your peers, good judge, fair judge, fine. And if you get found innocent, there's nothing I can do about it. That's life. But he should be on trial for his life, for the evil that he has done and the crimes against humanity. And I'll debate that anytime, anywhere. Because you're mentally ill. If you don't see that, you're mentally ill now that you've seen his emails and his texts and you don't believe this man is a mass murderer and an evil person who did it for greed. If you don't believe that he was enriching himself and letting women die and babies die and letting people die by the millions around the world, you are blind, deaf and really dumb. Which makes you a Democrat,

[Steve Bannon]

Wayne. Or a Democrat, as President Trump labels it. Wayne, where do people go to get all your content, all the shows, all your writings, where they go?

[Wayne Allen Root]

Well, root for America is one place. Root for America. And then my show's coming up. Literally just in a few minutes, America speaks on Real America's Voice YouTube network. You can call in 800-347-ROOT. I hope to hear from you. The show starts in 20 minutes. 800. 347 Root and we could talk live. Liberal or conservative? I'll take on all comers. Do you like what I said about Trump? Do you like what I did in the interview? Do you like the questions I asked? Do you like what I'm saying about Dr. Fauci, or do you hate it? Would you have asked different questions? 800-347-ROOT and you can leave a voicemail 24 hours a day there and I'll play the voicemail on the air and respond to it.

[Steve Bannon]

Fantastic. Wayne Allen. Root, good luck this afternoon on the show and we'll make sure MSNBC knows where to get you. So you go have your head over there and take them all on.

[Wayne Allen Root]

Appreciate they've never called me. I love it.

[Steve Bannon]

National Nash, National Security Emergency Memo. Got to do it. Jason Kilmeier over the Daily Caller. Amazing piece up about mass deportations in the midterm elections. Walk through your piece, your analysis, and explain to us exactly what's going on. Because, you know, the MAGA base is just sitting there going, where are the mass deportations? In fact, Mark Wayne Mullen's got another, you know, photo montage today. Some people sent me where he's at some factory somewhere with Customs and Border. And it's all talking about what a great job they're doing. They are doing a great job making sure, I guess, drugs don't come in, guns don't come in, all the types of things Customs and Border does. And I just put up, hey, yo, we're worried. We're worried about mass deportations. We understand Customer Border are doing their jobs every day and doing it great and probably doing it better than ever, but that's not the point. The point is mass deportations. Your column, your analysis article, the Daily Caller is mass deportations. I guess after the midterms. Talk to us about what you mean, sir.

[Jason Kilmeier]

Sure. And Steve, thanks for having me on. I we were basically just trying to do some simple math, right? So Joe Biden brings in, let's say, 10 million. I I'm sure we both think it was really more here's the number we're removing at any given time, and then we're potentially two years out from the AOC presidency. And what I tell people, like folks that aren't maybe fans of your shows but are just normies out in the street, I say, hey, Joe Biden Let in 8, 10 million, 12 million. Do you think that a President AOC or a President Newsom is gonna Let in fewer than Joe Biden or more. And so we started from that proposition and said, well, then what would have to be true for us to actually do this in the way that the President talked about and the way that you and others in the base understand it, not an expansion, a linear expansion of traditional enforcement, but actual mass deportation in the millions. We know it can be done. We just watched the Biden administration do it in the opposite direction.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on, hang. Hang on, hang on. I want to get that. I want to get that foundation because that's what I love about the piece. Just hit rewind. It's not normal course of business of interior enforcement, all that. It's not confusing the numbers of, like returned at the border, whether the Coast Guard or whatever. You have to have a totally different mindset because the country's never faced a crisis like that. So just hit rewind about how you came to that, because we have time. We have the. I'm going to hold you through the break, but I want to make sure people understand this because it's quite brilliant.

[Jason Kilmeier]

Sure, yeah. So mass deportation is a new and different skill set, and it is something that we have not really had to do. Right. And so we have dhs, everybody there is working hard, but that is not sufficient. One of the things that I say is if we had a whole of government effort, we'd be using our whole government. And so what we need to do is understand this as a great logistics exercise, one in which American civilians participate. That does not mean significant overlap with law enforcement functionality. What it means is we need to extend the capability of the one department that right now is carrying the load. And there are authorities available to the President under national emergency law and a variety of other authorities that will allow us to unlock the use of DoD, the use of the Department of Transportation.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Jason Kilmeier]

Something truly run out of the White House with the full arsenal of national power at its fingertips.

[Steve Bannon]

Walk me through. We got a couple of minutes here. When you say bring that in, it's logistics. And folks, you got to remember in the. In the big beautiful bill and I think the supplemental we put in, I believe, Jason, $175 billion. A big hunk of this was for the logistics chain for the mass deportations. This is over and above border security. It's over above turning them back from the border. Everything else, a huge hunk of that was to go right to your logistics chain, was it not?

[Jason Kilmeier]

It is. But, you know, what happened is politics intervene. Right. So, hey, we want to open a facility and We've got to call and argue with the mayor of Salt Lake or wherever that is right this is. And what I'm arguing in the piece is we run this directly from the White House because they can bulldoze everybody. We have to extend it beyond the reach of any individual department to do this at the numbers that we're talking about. Let me give you, Steve, an example. And I mentioned this has to be beyond the reach of the department. The city of New York itself used a federal airfield. I think it was called Floyd Bennett Park. I forget the exact name. They had 200 illegal aliens there in tents for over a year, assisting the Biden administration in trying to traffic as many people into this country as they could like. It is that type of multifaceted approach that we're going to need to take to build this infrastructure. So it will be dhs. We will require dod, we will need to bring in civilian capabilities. We have not yet explored the use of the Civil Reserve air fleet. Every element of national power to include a massive civilian hiring surge to kind of build out this logistics enterprise.

[Steve Bannon]

I love this. Jason, hang on for a second. Original thinking about to get to the a solution. Not just whining about the problem, but getting to a solution. Jason Kilmeier from the Daily Caller. I want everybody to read the piece. Grace, Mo, JoJo, Elizabeth, everybody, let's act as force multipliers. Get everybody in the posse to repost this short commercial break. Back in the warm in just a moment. Spread the word all through Hong Kong we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the CCP if you're 65 or already on Medicare, listen up, folks, and grab a pen, maybe even a number two pencil, call 845-war room. That's 845 war room. Call it right now. I'm serious. Call it. Call it now. Here's why. The insurance companies and their lackeys in the Washington swamp have built a Medicare system designed to confuse you and rip you off. Rising premiums, denied claims, fine print. Nobody but a lobbyist understands millions of American seniors are paying too much and getting too little. And worst of all, most don't even know it. Hey, that could be you. That's why, if you're already on Medicare or will be soon, you need to talk to our friends at Chapter. They have a team of advisors trained to serve American seniors, not the insurance companies. In under 20 minutes, they can find you the best plan for your needs at the Lowest cost. Why? They're a data company. They have all the data on every plan. It's totally free. There's no pressure, no bs Just straightforward honest help from fellow patriots. So don't wait. Call 845 War Room right now. That's 845 War Room. Tell them Bannon sent you. Now, listen, in the first couple of days of the launch of this company with the Warren Posse, posse members saved tens and up to hundreds of thousands collectively of dollars in these fees. Go check it out today. That's chapter call 845-Warter- Room. Do it today.

[Peter Navarro]

War Room.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Jason Kilmeier joins us from the Daily Caller. It's a quite brilliant piece that he has up because it talks about a solution. And this is a solution, I think when you hear him out, has a lot of logic to it and is quite doable. Jason, walk us through again. You're saying, hey, take it out of any department. Put it right in, not just in the West Wing, maybe put in the office next to the president. Right, right there. So it's a national priority that President Trump can work the program every day, Correct?

[Jason Kilmeier]

Absolutely. And that gets us away, Steve, from the trap of, you know, hey, is, is the DHS secretary or is any other individual official, you know, sufficiently committed? This is the president, United States, who made this his signature issue, who lined it, who line edited the Republican Party platform, made this a winning issue, and then got Congress to stroke a historic check. So now the president did his part. So now what do we do to make the numbers actually work? So my argument is if we do about 14,000 a day after the midterms, that gets us to 10 million. I know that there are many, many more there, but we at least start to make a real dent in who Joe Biden brought over. So how do we do that? You run it directly out of the dcos P's office or you run it directly out of the Homeland Security Council. This needs to be run from the White House complex and then from there. Right. You flow out. We can divide into regions just like FEMA does. Right now, I think that FEMA has 12 regions around the country. And that flow down is not just to federal law enforcement. That is daily communication across all the local law enforcement, the civilian participants that we will hire with today's goals, with the data that needs to flow down. And then each of those individual regions is responsible for, for their own transportation and removal logistics. So think about the federal facilities that are available, theoretically, military Facilities, maybe other federal airfields within each of those regions. That is up to that regional leader or commander. These could be former military, former career logisticians to meet those numbers and to start to be able to make an impact on not just the people who are in the traditional enforcement pipeline, but but the broader illegal alien population.

[Steve Bannon]

Jason over the Daily Caller, you guys are one of the most important news sites, news organizations on the right with the conservative movement. I know you know other people. Is it your sense from the readers over there that there would be pretty big support among the MAGA movement and the conservative movement to back this play

[Jason Kilmeier]

of President Trump, sir yeah, and I think there will be. And I think it is. It is when President Trump says go, everybody will fall in line. And that may be after November. And that was kind of how we talked about it. Steve the way that I think about it, right in the work that you've done over the past couple weeks, the job that I see that I have is much more limited. It is to help to shift the Overton window towards a discussion that actually gets us there from a logistical perspective. And it is to be ready with a plan of sufficient logistical maturity when the President asks. Right. So if we think about individual leaders at dhs, there are Republicans that still, and this is not just a critique of them, there are Republicans that still think there's another way out of this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Jason Kilmeier]

They don't realize that we will either have mass deportation or mass importation. There is no longer a third option. And this right, the base, the folks who want us to do mass deportation in the way that it is envisioned, the way that it was, it's communicated by you. Their victory is guaranteed. It will be the primary, if not the primary primary Plankton Republican Party platform because mass importation is now the key part of the Democratic Party platform. So there is no more running from this. Our job is just to be able to be hand the President a plan of sufficient maturity, whether my ideas are exactly the right ones or not. That answers to the actual numbers he will soon demand of us, I think.

[Steve Bannon]

Jason, where do people go to get your earnings at Daily Caller and social media coordinates all that? This the great thing about your piece. It's going to start a lot of conversations because it offers clarity and once you see you kind of work through it and you're 100% correct, one party's got mass importation, the other is mass deportation. And it's pretty clear what has to happen. But I want to make sure everybody becomes familiar with your this work and your other work. So where they go.

[Jason Kilmeier]

Thanks. Just follow me on Twitter at Jason Kilmeier. And I've got some more pieces coming up here where I'm going to work through the legal, the operational, the financial and all of the relevant national emergency law statutes that I think the president is going to be able to use that we have so far underexplored.

[Steve Bannon]

Jason, and we want you back on every time you put one up. This is important. Thank you, sir. Audience already loves it.

[Peter Navarro]

I know.

[Steve Bannon]

So thank you.

[Wayne Allen Root]

Appreciate you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, second hour is going to be incredible. I want to play a little clip. We're going to include this in the, in the cold open. We were just kind of putting it together. We'll have a more formal one probably tomorrow. But can we go ahead and play this? Cause the facts are on our side. Joe Biden never got 15 million votes. More votes than Barack Obama. Impossible. We didn't pick up net 12 house seats when we lost the presidential. Impossible. We didn't win 19 of the 20 bellwethers and lose the presidency. Impossible. He's not legitimate. For the folks have been with us right from, from impeachment back in what, October, September of October of 2019, all the way through war room pandemic, all the way through the election and fighting for the election and President Trump being forced out of the White House by an illegitimate regime, as we call it every single day. And that day when on that phony inauguration, when they were so ashamed of what they had done under the COVID of COVID Remember that? You got to remember, we were up on the roof overlooking. They had the big white circles driven, which they knew at the time were all lies. The separation. Think about it. It was all lies. And they knew it was lies. The mask and the separation they played. They went to a whole thing because Covid had to be the COVID The Chinese Communist Party's bioweapon had to be the COVID for the stolen election. He's not legitimate. He was never a legitimate president. United States. I got a frickin wall up there outside the Rose Garden. His photo's not even in it. Why is that? He's not considered a legitimate president. United States. You just had Jason Kilmeier on here. A monumental effort of the nation to get the 10 million out. And he's half of what probably was legit or what actually happened. 20 or more. We're going to rent the nation asunder to do this of what he did. No, the family takes full responsibility. Catholic requiem mass or whatever you determine. But no state funeral, no honors. Outrageous. You let Nixon be buried in his backyard with nothing and you're going to hold up Nixon, who was forced out by the same deep state that put Biden in. Outrageous. Even the concept of it's outrageous. More outrage coming because we're going to drill down on Fauci with Mary Holland and Edward Dowd next in the war room, October 15th. Or as we say in the war room, the 15th of October. As we head towards that date, that's the extension deadline for the irs. Here's something most Americans do not realize. The IRS already has a file on you every W2, every 1099. Every piece of tax information that's been reported to the government is sitting in what's called your IRS master file. The question is, do you know what's in it before you file your return? That's why I want you to check out our friends at Tax Network usa. They'll pull out your official IRS master file before your return is prepared so that you can see exactly what the IRS already has on the record. If you filed an October 15th extension, you can get your federal tax return repaired plus your IRS file pulled for just 49 bucks. And if you're self employed, receive 1099 income or own a business, they'll review your IRS file and prepare your federal tax return for just $300. This special offer can save you hundreds of dollars while helping you file with confidence. Before the extension deadline, call 866-513-5516, that's 866-513-5516 or visit tnusa.combannon that's tnusa.combannon for this special pricing. That's again T N USA.combannon Remember, they can pull the file for $49 and then file your return for 300 bucks. Do not miss this special offer. Take advantage of it today.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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